World nuclear parity cannot be violated? Must not be broken

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World nuclear parity cannot be violated? Must not be broken

The Russian Federation is suspending its participation in the Treaty on Measures for the Further Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms (START-3). If we talk about withdrawing from treaties related to the sphere of strategic weapons, then here we cannot keep up with the United States - they were the first to withdraw from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM), the first to withdraw from the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF Treaty).

Russia was the first to withdraw from the much less significant open skies treaty, and now - the suspension of participation in the START treaty. So far, only a suspension, but who knows what will follow next. Do not forget about the preparations for the immediate conduct of nuclear tests weapons (NW) in the event that such tests are carried out by Western countries.



In his message to the Federal Assembly, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin raised the issue of the inadmissibility of a unilateral violation of nuclear parity by Western countries. There is no doubt that the US and Western countries are keen to tip the balance in their favor. There is no doubt that, having gained unilateral superiority, the countries of the West will definitely use it, and then - woe to the vanquished, that is, Russia.

How can nuclear parity be violated?


Formally, it is believed that nuclear parity is when we and the United States have approximately the same number of carriers and nuclear warheads deployed on them. It is these indicators that are reflected in the START treaties. However, in reality, nuclear parity is affected not only by the number of nuclear weapons on both sides.

For example, can we assume that we have parity with the United States in nuclear weapons, given that their population is twice as large? For example, in the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes, who will suffer the most losses? Will they be unacceptable to the US? And for us? If now the United States considers the damage that the Russian nuclear arsenal can inflict on them, will they consider it as such tomorrow? You never know what kind of shocks they will have, it is possible that "a treacherous nuclear strike by Russia" will be the lesser of evils for them?

In the late 80s, the USSR had about 40 (!) nuclear warheads, while the United States had about 000: it was possible to work with such figures. Certainly not the end of the world, but a guaranteed end to the United States as a developed state, it is quite realistic to provide forty thousand nuclear warheads. And the United States understood this very well, not in vain, having not received what they wanted from the Star Wars program, they rushed so briskly to sign the START-1 treaty in 1991.


Dynamics of changes in the number of nuclear warheads in the leading countries of the world

If we talk about the current state of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation, then everything is much more complicated. Now the US is not ready to take on a full-fledged blow with all the forces of strategic deterrence that Russia has, but there are several factors playing against us.

The first factor is that the United States is actively working on the issues of delivering a surprise disarming strike on the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation, after which we will have nothing to answer, or the answer will be too weak, rather even acceptable for the United States, to justify everything that they will then do with Russia. Previously, the existing Russian components of the strategic nuclear forces, their potential vulnerabilities and the means being developed by the United States for delivering a surprise disarming strike were considered:

- Air and ground components of strategic nuclear forces;
- Marine component of strategic nuclear forces;
- Ground and space echelons of early warning systems;
- US decapitating weapon.

To summarize the conclusions, aviation the strategic nuclear forces component is currently not at all a deterrent against a sudden disarming strike - it is a purely offensive weapon, the marine component is extremely vulnerable, especially those strategic missile carriers that are in bases, and the ground component in terms of mobile missile systems is gradually losing its main feature - stealth .


Strategic bomber bomber Tu-160

In addition, the impact of the remnants of Russian strategic nuclear forces after the United States launched a surprise disarming strike can be partially leveled by the US missile defense system.

About the United States - this is the second factor, much less significant than the first, since so far the US missile defense system has not shown itself in any way, and it is difficult to talk about its effectiveness, but nevertheless, everything can change if the United States gets access to space at reduced prices, and this is quite realistic if Elon Musk will still launch his fully reusable Starship space system with the declared characteristics. The origin, evolution and prospects of US missile defense were previously considered in the materials:

- Cold War missile defense and "Star Wars";
- US missile defense: present and near future;
- US missile defense post 2030: intercept thousands of warheads.

In short, the United States failed to create a normal strategic missile defense system in the 1th century, their missile defense capabilities are now very limited, and the prospects still have to live up to them. Literally. However, even the limited capabilities of US missile defense can play an important role in the event that the US successfully implements factor No. XNUMX - inflicting a successful surprise disarming strike on Russian strategic nuclear forces, especially in the context of the third factor.

The third factor is the potential deterioration of the economic and geopolitical situation in the United States itself, as a result of which even a nuclear war may cease to be an unacceptable way out of the situation for the American elites.

How can Russia maintain nuclear parity with the US?


It is necessary to start with ensuring the guaranteed survival of Russian strategic nuclear forces in the event of a sudden disarming strike by the enemy without taking into account the possibility of delivering a retaliatory strike.

Possible ways of evolution of Russian strategic nuclear forces were previously considered in the materials:

- prospects for the development of the ground component of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation;
- prospects for the development of the aviation component of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation;
- prospects for the development of the marine component of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation;
- generalized composition of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation in the medium term.

Understanding the vulnerability of Russian strategic nuclear forces to a sudden disarming strike by the enemy is based on the following theses:

- protected silo launchers (silos) - this is the only way to deploy intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) with nuclear warheads, in which their defeat is possible only with nuclear weapons, protected silos are invulnerable to conventional weapons - namely the understanding of this simple fact forces the United States to keep its ICBMs in protected silos on the American continent, and this despite the fact that their fleet is superior in total combat power to the fleets of all other countries combined, and it is certainly capable of ensuring the safety of their submarine missile carriers, which are an ideal weapon just for delivering a sudden disarming strike from a minimum distance, along a flat trajectory SLBM flight;

- any mobile carriers with ICBMs, including mobile ground-based missile systems (PGRK), combat railway missile systems (BZHRK), strategic missile submarines (SSBNs) with ballistic missile submarines (SLBMs) will be tracked by the enemy with increasing probability and can be destroyed on the routes of movement.


PGRK "Yars"

- The same mobile carriers in their bases represent an ideal target for the enemy, which can be hit by both conventional weapons and a small number of nuclear charges (this also includes the aviation component of strategic nuclear forces);

- the more nuclear warheads are placed on one ICBM, the more attractive it is for the enemy.

Based on the foregoing, an approximate calculation was made of how many nuclear charges does the US need to destroy Russian strategic nuclear forces.

Presumably, to destroy all Russian strategic nuclear forces, the United States should spend about 500-600 nuclear warheads out of 1 operationally deployed, plus a certain amount of precision-guided weapons. This number of nuclear warheads can be deployed on three or four Ohio-class SSBNs. The minimum launch range of the Trident II (D550) SLBM is 5 kilometers or 2 minutes of flying time. To increase launch density, the United States can use eight SSBNs in combination with advanced hypersonic high-precision missiles launched from Virginia Block V multipurpose nuclear submarines, surface ships, strategic aircraft and ground launchers.


Ohio type SSBN

At this moment, opponents usually make the claim that the launch of American missiles will be detected in a timely manner by Russian missile attack warning systems, after which an order will be immediately given to Russian strategic nuclear forces to strike at the United States and NATO countries. In the case of a timely passage of all teams, the strike will be reciprocal, that is, enemy warheads will hit the empty mines, PGRKs and SSBNs.

If the enemy had struck from the maximum distance, with an ICBM flight time of about 30 minutes, then it would have been so, but 5,5 minutes? The chances of inflicting a retaliatory strike in such a short time are minimal, that is, the strike can only be a retaliatory strike, and only what we have left after the enemy's strike.

The evolution of Russian strategic nuclear forces


At the initial stage, it is necessary to maximize the resistance of the existing components of the strategic nuclear forces to the infliction of a sudden disarming strike by the enemy.

About strategic nuclear forces component we have already said that its role in strategic deterrence is minimal, it is a flexible weapon of attack, a kind of nuclear rapier.

Marine component of strategic nuclear forces, i.e. SSBN. In it, in the construction of the SSBN project 955 (955A) Borey and the Bulava SLBM for them, Russia has invested huge amounts of money. It is clear that it is necessary to maximize their security with the help of surface fleet, stationary and deployable means of illuminating the underwater situation, use anti-submarine aviation and multi-purpose submarines to cover them, but these measures cannot be called sufficient, and therefore it is necessary:

- to maximize the operational voltage coefficient (KOH), so that SSBNs spend a minimum of time in their bases, where they are most vulnerable - that is, increase the speed and quality of maintenance, improve equipment reliability, have two interchangeable crews per SSBN;

- provide SSBNs with the ability to fight off the enemy’s first strike by equipping them with highly effective decoys, anti-torpedoes and active anti-torpedo protection systems (we previously spoke about the possibility, prospects and consequences of creating the PTZ spacecraft in the materials "Octopus" - a complex of active anti-torpedo protection " и "Forcing the United States to abandon a surprise disarming strike").


The concept of using the complex of active anti-torpedo protection (KA PTZ) "Octopus"

The presence on the SSBNs of a layered anti-torpedo defense system (ATD) by the mere fact of its existence can force the enemy to refuse to deliver a sudden disarming strike on our country.

It is also necessary to carefully analyze the feasibility of creating specific systems such as the Poseidon nuclear torpedo, if this complex is still operational and effective, then its carriers should also be equipped with layered anti-tank weapons.

In part ground component of strategic nuclear forces you must:

- stop all development of promising PGRK and BZHRK and / or reorient them to the role carriers of conventional high-precision long-range weapons ;

- to maximize the operating voltage coefficient for existing PGRKs up to the complete exhaustion of their resource and decommissioning;

- to limit the number of heavy ICBMs of the "Sarmat" type to a minimum level (no more than ten units);

- focus on the production of light silo-based ICBMs;

- maintain, restore and modernize the maximum number of silos manufactured in previous periods;

- to arrange the production of high-factory silos.

The subsequent evolution of Russian strategic nuclear forces should take place in this direction, with a gradual increase in the proportion of ICBMs in protected silos of high factory readiness, with one or two nuclear warheads, with the possibility of installing a third or a set of missile defense breakthrough tools.

For one real silo, it is necessary to build one or two false ones - sometime it will be just an external similarity, sometime it will be a real silo, which will host its own missile defense systems or other critical elements of the strategic deterrence infrastructure. Promising Russian strategic nuclear forces should turn into "endless" fields of silos, placed in such a way that it would be impossible to hit two silos with one enemy nuclear charge, and even one would not give a 100% probability of hitting ICBMs in silos so that the enemy had to spend at least two nuclear warheads per silo.

Then, even after striking the Russian strategic nuclear forces with everything he has, even with a twofold superiority of the enemy in the number of deployed charges, from 25% to 50% of the Russian nuclear deterrence potential will survive. In a massive strike, some enemy nuclear charges will affect others, deflecting them from their intended targets, reducing the accuracy of their hit, as a result of which the probability of ICBM survival in mines will increase even more.

The withdrawal from the START treaties is extremely important, since it is possible to send the United States far and for a long time, with restrictions imposed on the maximum number of deployed nuclear warheads and their carriers, and with all kinds of checks of Russian nuclear arsenals.

The exchange of data on ICBM launches is quite enough, after all, China does not tell anyone about its strategic nuclear forces, and nothing, a nuclear war did not start from this.

But the United States can build more ICBMs with nuclear warheads than we can?

They can, but not so much more - their nuclear technologies are less efficient than ours, one enrichment by the gas diffusion method is worth something, and it's not so important. The USSR had more nuclear warheads than the US, did it help us a lot or hurt the US?

For us, only one criterion matters - the ability of Russia to inflict unacceptable losses on the United States, and more precisely, not on the United States, but on the interests of those elites who can / will decide on a nuclear strike.

Thus, the size of the Russian arsenal of strategic nuclear forces should be determined by its ability to inflict unacceptable losses on Western elites even if they launch a sudden disarming strike on Russia.


So, after all, “guns instead of butter”? Will it take a lot of rockets?

Far from a fact. Of all the means of nuclear deterrence, ICBMs in silos should be the most economical, the main costs for them are only in the manufacture.

Strategic aviation - both the bombers themselves and the cost of their flight cost a lot of money. Submarine missile carriers - huge costs for construction, life cycle support, infrastructure, ensuring safe deployment. The situation is similar with PGRK and BZHRK - their operation is probably much more expensive than ICBMs in silos, which are “comfortably” resting in protected containers, waiting in the wings.


ICBMs in silos are maximally protected from all external influences

In this direction - reducing the cost of deployment and life cycle, increasing reliability and service life, ICBMs in silos should be developed.

For the carrier, these are not records of range, speed and carrying capacity, but a low life cycle cost, ease of maintenance, a huge warranty period, and built-in self-diagnostics. For a nuclear warhead, this is not maximum power and accuracy, but the ability to maintain operability for a long time without maintenance, minimizing the need for reassembly to clean the nuclear charge from accumulated decay products, and so on.

Isn't it dangerous to "put all your eggs in one basket"?

It is unlikely that in the foreseeable future something will appear that can radically change the situation - even the deployment of strike weapons in space in the medium term will not allow the enemy to launch a sudden disarming strike on all silos, too large forces will have to be concentrated in orbit - it will not be possible to do this quietly. So light ICBMs in protected silos will remain the most effective means of nuclear deterrence for a long time.

In addition, withdrawal from the START treaty will largely blur the difference between strategic and tactical nuclear weapons.

For example, in the future, instead of building new SSBNs, conventional multi-purpose nuclear submarines (ICNs) with universal weapons bays can be built, which can accommodate both conventional weapons, autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles (AUVs), and promising hypersonic heirs of Zircon with nuclear warheads and range of two to three thousand kilometers.


Hypersonic missiles with nuclear warheads placed on multi-purpose submarines will put the strongest pressure on enemy defenses

Such a fleet will be active, aggressive, it will strive to get closer to the enemy at a range of destruction, and the enemy will have to think about protecting against a sudden strike, concentrating forces on defense, not attack.

The nuclear triad will remain in its current form - strategic missile forces (RVSN), aviation and navy. That's just the aviation and the navy, in fact, will not become a means of deterrence, but a means of attack, creating a threat, putting pressure on the enemy, that is, what they should be due to their highest mobility.

And the "endless" fields of silos with ICBMs, which will be impossible to destroy with a sudden disarming strike, will ensure the preservation of nuclear parity with the enemy.



China is already building its "endless" silo fields with ICBMs

Conclusions


1. At present, in the short and medium term, the Russian strategic nuclear forces and the effectiveness of strategic deterrence will be influenced by the following factors:

1.1. A significant loss of stealth for all mobile objects (carriers), including SSBNs, PGRK and BZHRK, due to the progressive development of low-orbit constellations of intelligence, control and communications satellites, as well as the deployment of distributed intelligence networks, including autonomous surface and underwater uninhabited reconnaissance vehicles, combined with an increase in the number of high-precision long-range weapons in service with the enemy, including the possibility of in-flight retargeting, including hypersonic ones.

1.2. A gradual, evolutionary increase in the effectiveness of enemy anti-missile defense systems, whose effectiveness may become minimally sufficient to repel a Russian retaliatory strike in the event that the enemy launches a sudden disarming strike and destroys most of the Russian strategic nuclear forces.

1.3. The existing and progressive probability that the unacceptable damage potentially inflicted on the enemy by the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation will become acceptable to him due to the growth of external, internal, economic and political problems, especially taking into account the real or imaginary possibility of destroying Russian strategic nuclear forces with a sudden disarming strike, followed by repelling single launches by the missile defense system .

2. In order to compensate for the negative impact of the above factors and maintain the strategic nuclear parity of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation, it is necessary:

2.1. Place nuclear charge carriers (ICBMs) in protected silos, excluding the possibility of their destruction by any long-range conventional munitions, as well as nuclear charges with low hit accuracy.

2.2. Ensure that silos are placed in such a way as to exclude the simultaneous destruction of two silos by one enemy nuclear charge.

2.3. The number of nuclear warheads on an ICBM in a silo must be less than or equal to the number of nuclear warheads that the enemy must spend to destroy one silo (1-2 warheads with the possibility of installing a third).

2.4. Widespread use of false silos, imitation of the silo headband, loading ICBMs into silos under the cover of mobile shelters, excluding the enemy’s understanding in which silos the ICBMs are installed, in which not, exclude any checks of the silos by the enemy: leave only mutual notifications of ICBM launches from the means of control .

2.5. To ensure high-volume production of ICBMs and silos of high factory readiness, with the main criteria - ensuring the maximum possible service life, the highest possible reliability, and minimizing the cost of the life cycle of products.
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  1. +5
    2 March 2023 05: 40
    I am a staunch opponent of START - 2 concluded with the Americans ... now it is doing us more harm than good, and we must definitely get out of it.
    I agree with the author's arguments ... everything is logical.
    Add from myself ...
    START is completely unrelated to NATO's eastward expansion,
    he is completely unattached to the expansion of the United States to our borders ... now Blinken is spudding the Kazakhs and Uzbeks according to the Ukrainian version ... that is, the United States creates a threat to us in the soft underbelly of Russia ... quite in the future the Pentagon may place military bases there after reformatting the brain from the local elite.
    Further, START is absolutely not tied to the number of nuclear weapons in France and Britain ... and their missiles are clearly aimed at our cities.
    In this form, START only harms us ... the Americans have entangled the Kremlin with various restrictions, completely freeing their hands in the fight against Russia ... something needs to be done about this ... we need to correct the stupidities and mistakes committed by the political leadership of our country ... a threat our existence grows every day.
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    1. +1
      2 March 2023 07: 42
      Today, at the same time, articles about nuclear weapons were published on many sites and in the news. For what?
      1. +4
        2 March 2023 10: 28
        At the beginning of the article there is a statement that Russia was the first to withdraw from the open skies treaty.
        Am I missing something or the author?
        If my memory serves me right, the Americans came out first, then Russia.
        Another question was raised about guarantees that the Europeans should not pass on information to America. But they did not give such a guarantee, and if they did, then they have no faith.
        Correct me if I'm wrong.
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 20: 03
          If my memory serves me right, the Americans came out first, then Russia


          You all said it right, it was Trump who first announced his withdrawal from the treaty, and we followed suit.
          1. -1
            3 March 2023 20: 47
            First of all, we need a different leader of the country and a different state system, because the oligarchic system is a complete degradation of the country. START-3 is an act of high treason and it is necessary to get out of it the sooner the better.
            Of course, research is needed, but it seems to me that the air component of the strategic nuclear forces should be abandoned, at least the construction of new strategic bombers.
            NSNF needs to be developed, and here, as the author says, two crews per SSBN are needed, and in addition, each such SSBN on the BS must be accompanied by at least a pair of 22350 frigates to protect against enemy surface ships and anti-submarine aviation and provide anti-aircraft defense. And on the good side, for the full-fledged fulfillment of the tasks of the NSNF, a sufficient number of ships are needed to form one permanent AUG each in the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet, because only under the cover of the AUG can our SSBNs be guaranteed to complete their task before being detected and destroyed.
            For ground-based strategic nuclear forces, the author proposes the most competent way of development.
      2. +1
        2 March 2023 20: 14
        For what?


        Revisit the movie "Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Atomic Bomb".
    2. +1
      2 March 2023 15: 11
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I am a staunch opponent of START - 2 concluded with the Americans ... now it is doing us more harm than good, and we must definitely get out of it.

      Why are you in present tense?
      Russia withdrew from START-2 in June 2002 Yes
      And ratified it only in 2000!
      Even the SNP ended in 2011
      The Americans disposed of their MX, despite the withdrawal from START-2.
      You live somewhere else
    3. +3
      2 March 2023 17: 37
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I agree with the author's arguments ... everything is logical.

      And I don't agree! (Baba Yaga is against!) And that's why.
      1. The author remembered that Trident II. D-5, has a minimum range of 2300 km. In this case, the flight time will be 5,5 minutes ... And this product will fly along an "oblique" ballistic trajectory. -- So here it is. It will not fly, because it does not have such a "movement" mode. This time.
      Second, the To fire from such a range, GAYKA must enter the ROP located in the Norwegian or North Sea. And this is the PLO zone under the control of the PLO SF forces. Here we will be able to oppose them with both the DGAN and PLA ships and the PLO systems on the NK ... Despite the fact that the Amer SSBNs shoot max 4 items in a series, I'm afraid none of them will survive to the second series. This is not at all what to shoot from Hawaii or from the waters of Guam. Then, the depth of the Ohio-type SSBN in the launch corridor is only 30 m (!) / We have 45-50! / Therefore, the boat will be vulgarly visible from space. From there, the control center will come to the BR with the SBP to boil the water area around the GAYKA. After that, she is unlikely to be able to complete the BZ.
      2. pla Virginia block V, also fastened by the author to the first disarming strike on the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation. Well, until they have a GZO like our 3M22 and have not returned the GBM-109 (TSLCM variant) to them, they belong to the general forces. But CRBD on underwater carriers is a very dangerous thing and really poses a threat to our strategic nuclear forces. But they fly for a long time, albeit low. And against them there are S-350, radar and MiG-31BM with VVBD missiles. Again, CRBD launches are detected by the VO control system in coastal directions.
      3. The author suddenly decided that there was a "significant loss of secrecy" of our RPK SN. Where this came from is not known. Apparently he still believes in the fairy tales of the "experts" of the submarine of the 70s. Now, our APRK SN pr 995 A is 4 times quieter than the 971 project, which the Yankees recognized as equal in noise level to the last Elks. And the 885 M project is quieter than their Virginia, which, by the way, the Yankees also mentioned more than once. Yes, we have problems with low-frequency detection and surveillance equipment. But the amers also have them.
      Low-orbit satellites (species reconnaissance) during the reconnaissance of our naval bases were repeatedly deceived by mock-ups of boats. and AES-rtr - corner reflectors on them. And than. AES boats are not looking. It's a BPA thing. These "pterodacles" are a real threat to them. That is why AVMs are needed to drive away this winged evil spirits from the deployment routes of our submarines.
      4. The author said something about "improving missile defense" amers. But for some reason he does not mention that 3M22 is too tough for them yet. And with a launch range of 1,0 -1,5 thousand km, ZIRCONs in nuclear equipment become "Robin Gut arrows" for the Sheriff of Nottingham because of a puddle ... Let him go - and forget! And then let them figure it out for themselves - how good their air defense / missile defense is.
      5. For some reason, the author sees "compensation" for threats to our strategic nuclear forces only in improving the means of the Strategic Missile Forces (ICBMs, silos, etc.), completely forgetting that the country has seriously invested in the SKIF project, POSEIDON, the same ZIRCONS ...
      Also, the equivalence towards "light ICBMs" in silos is not entirely clear. One would like to ask: - And what do you want to do with SARMATS? or is this not our "response to the American Curzon" ??? But about this - keep quiet!
      As a result: - It seems that the author decided to convince us that "kirdyk" is not far off, and it's best for us to give up quickly.
      Therefore, I do not agree with the author in everything. Of course, there are problems (and who doesn't have them now?) But they are being solved. Maybe not as fast as we would like. But still, they decide.
      Sincerely. hi
      1. 0
        3 March 2023 01: 03
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        1. The author remembered that Trident II. D-5, has a minimum range of 2300 km.

        RANGE Minimum 2,000 km. More precisely, 1850 km (but this is trash in terms of accuracy and the likelihood of a failure of a combat mission). It is used only on "soft targets", even hitting targets C (3) is unlikely.
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        It will not fly, because it does not have such a "movement" mode. This time.

        It has. Already 3 modes of "attack with a short flight time":
        TME, NT-60-SIM, NT-120.
        And they tested it in 1989, sort of. I didn’t like it very much: errors in the final section increased by 10 or more times.
        It's cool that Trident 1 with 100kT warheads showed the best result, significantly ahead of D2.
        Realistic TME : flight time 12.5 minutes. The rest 7-7,5
        Whether the Russian Navy has a PLO zone is a mystery.
        GIUK gap- definitely not, as well as SOSUS.
        And why should she shoot back from 3000 km, when it is possible from 4000?

        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Therefore, the boat will be vulgarly visible from space

        to see it from space, you need to have something in space.
        I doubt that the submarine is visible from space at a depth of 30 m
        Yes, and from under the ice, she can shoot perfectly
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        forgetting that the country has seriously invested in the SKIF, POSEIDON project, the same ZIRCONS ...

        mmm ..
        no carrier with zircon will let the target (well, the very main one) reach the shores, and the rest ...
        if there are no analogues, then no one needs it.
        Good, real weapons always have analogues (several countries)
        During the time that has passed since 2001, i.e. during the period of getting up from its knees, the Russian nuclear deterrence force was reduced by a factor of three from the level that the authors of the NRDC report dreamed of zeroing.
    4. 0
      2 March 2023 18: 49
      The main thing in START-2 is not only the number of nuclear charges, but also the number of carriers of these charges! Since, no one will allow a second blow. It is difficult to make new charges, but for the United States it is not an impossible task, but the number of carriers in the United States is much larger.
  2. +2
    2 March 2023 05: 52
    year article. Cognitive, descriptive, a little bit of analytics is present, the ritual lamentation of Yaroslavna, too - where without it. The main thing is not said - nuclear parity is IMPOSSIBLE IN PRINCIPLE! And it's not about technology, not about carriers, and not even about the number of warheads - it's about geography. Let's first consider an example - two men are butting heads - one with a machine gun, but in an open field, the second has a gun, but he is in a heap of concrete blocks. Who will you bet on? So the size of the country, the location of the capital, the terrain, the population density of cities, the location of air defense and missile defense, and many more factors that are precisely the factors of nuclear parity. How many missiles and how long will it take to hit the center of Moscow from Latvia (400 km), and how many missiles and time will it take to hit the center of Washington? You can, of course, create a system of equations that take EVERYTHING into account and, based on the result, distribute quotas for the number and power of warheads (under the auspices of the UN, of course, with great fanfare and long speeches), but no one will ever do this. So all nuclear parity, sooner or later, will be reduced to simple street wisdom - hit first and run.
  3. +5
    2 March 2023 06: 20
    Strange associations caused this opus.
    When the Montpélé volcano destroyed the entire island of Martinique, a professor wrote in the Politics Nationale that he had long ago warned readers about a big spot in the sun. And the "National Policy" was not delivered to this island in time. Here they are thundering!
    (J. Hasek. Adventures of the Good Soldier Schweik)
  4. +3
    2 March 2023 06: 51
    Reagan, not getting what he wanted from the Star Wars program, so briskly rushed to sign the START-1 treaty in 1991
    It was only in November 1990 that he was elected President of the United States, and in January 1991, George Bush Sr. assumed his duties.
    START-1 was signed on July 30-31, 1991 in Moscow.
    And how after such a blunder to believe everything else?
  5. +4
    2 March 2023 07: 14
    I categorically disagree with the low stealth rating for the BZHRK and a little less categorically disagree with the assessment of the resistance of missile silos to "conventional" weapons.
    According to the BZHRK, tracking of promising complexes from satellites can be disrupted by inclusion in military (and not only) trains, under the cover of a satellite flight schedule, blinding by smoke, lasers, or by reshaping in long indoor parks (there are 500-700 meters). I don’t consider espionage such as introduction and tracking of movement in digital railway networks ...
    In terms of the stability of the mines: it is impossible to hide their location, let alone construction, and defeat by promising orbital-based kinetic means is inevitable. And it goes to this.
    1. +2
      2 March 2023 09: 24
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I don’t consider espionage such as introduction and tracking of movement in digital railway networks ...

      Certainly. After all, if you consider, then the BZHRK will be the most vulnerable targets.
      1. 0
        2 March 2023 15: 46
        Quote: SVD68
        Certainly. After all, if you consider, then the BZHRK will be the most vulnerable targets.

        Well, how do you imagine this tracking?
    2. +1
      2 March 2023 17: 57
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In terms of the stability of the mines: it is impossible to hide their location, let alone construction, and defeat by promising orbital-based kinetic means is inevitable. And it goes to this.

      The author in general, judging by the final part of the article, is an apologist for the Strategic Missile Forces with their silos (but he didn’t even remember the OS system!) But he is somehow unaware of the importance of heavy ICBMs flying through Tibet, where there is no Amer missile defense system! Also, he is not familiar with the SKIFs, the underwater SLBM-based version and "many other things" that are in the bins of the Motherland. Therefore, he does not mention the BZHRK either and puts an end to the PGRK ... In short - NOT ICE! negative
  6. +1
    2 March 2023 07: 48
    - to limit the number of heavy ICBMs of the "Sarmat" type to a minimum level (no more than ten units);
    It will not be enough ..
    In the photo for the article - the upper stage of the ICBM is white. Probably to minimize the absorbed light radiation of nuclear weapons and laser weapons .. The conclusions at the very end of the article (p. 2) imho are very relevant.
    1. 0
      3 March 2023 14: 36
      Just a fake. So simple that it's not even colored. Cheap plastic. In the photo - a simulator for rem composition. That's why they were allowed to shoot.
  7. +2
    2 March 2023 08: 29
    From myself: in my opinion, it is necessary to revive Barguzin: ten to twenty such trains running along the Trans-Siberian Railway and other railways will greatly strain the United States.
    1. +1
      2 March 2023 12: 13
      Do you think 10-20 Barguzins will destroy 300 million Americans and half a billion Europeans? Otherwise, I’m not sure that the rest is unacceptable losses for them ... what
    2. 0
      2 March 2023 18: 54
      Have you thought about the price of EACH train? And how much will the operating costs and repair of the rolling stock cost?
  8. +1
    2 March 2023 09: 28
    Still, it is worth returning to the topic of creating SSBNs of special construction for areas fundamentally inaccessible to the United States: the Caspian Sea and Lakes Onega and Ladoga.
  9. +4
    2 March 2023 11: 29
    Since I saw obvious inaccuracies, I will comment.
    If the enemy had struck from the maximum distance, with an ICBM flight time of the order of 30 minutes, then it would have been so, but 5,5 minutes? The chances of inflicting a retaliatory strike in such a short time are minimal, that is, the strike can only be a retaliatory strike, and only what we have left after the enemy's strike.

    Served in the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR, 86-88. Mobile complex. 4 DOSR, despite the fact that he went to the DMB as a private. This is me so that it is clear why I am commenting. Go. In 1988, the preparation time for the launch of the complex deployed at the position took from 1 to one and a half minutes. Why does the author believe that now it is impossible to launch faster than the American charge arrives ?! To do this, you just need to receive an order, and transfer the rocket to a vertical position. With a confirmation request - one and a half minutes. Without request - a minute.
    Significant loss of stealth for all mobile objects (carriers), including SSBNs, PGRK and BZHRK, due to the progressive development of low-orbit constellations of intelligence, control and communications satellites, as well as the deployment of distributed intelligence networks, including autonomous surface and underwater uninhabited reconnaissance vehicles, combined with an increase in the number of long-range precision weapons available in service with the enemy, including the possibility of retargeting in flight, including hypersonic.

    The author, firstly, answer: how can you clearly and accurately distinguish the BZHRK from the usual railway train? HOW??? Do you think that satellites scan every car with X-rays?!
    SSBN. Please answer, for what reason, if stealth is significantly reduced, do not a pair of American hunter boats hang on the tail of each of our submarines? Why did the Yankees get alarmed when our carrier "Poseidon" went out to carry out the assigned tasks, if there are such problems with secrecy?
    PGRK. You can track your current location. But, for a second, that's why he is mobile, a complex. If he is on the move, then the coordinates will not give anything to the enemy. I declare with all responsibility: if necessary, the complex can move on paved roads at speeds up to 90 km/h. Despite the weight and dimensions. Faster - I don’t know, but once I experienced this personally. Further. Camouflage capes, which were even mentioned on TV. And which are intended precisely for camouflage from satellites. Do you take them into account? In the meantime, they work. On the position, in the forest, among the trees, under such a cape, detecting the complex will be very problematic, if not impossible.
    I also wanted to explain to the author about "Sarmat", but if he does not understand simpler things, he decided not to waste time.
  10. 0
    2 March 2023 11: 44
    As in the old joke - we will sow 200 hectares of wheat, let the damned gopher choke.
    From the fact that you make holes in the endless fields of mines, you will only increase the chances of saving missiles (in such an expensive way), and yet they must also fly to the enemy through outer space. And it will soon be stuffed with small satellites with the possibility of orbital maneuver (ion engines are rapidly progressing), that is, substituting a satellite for a warhead will soon not become a problem. Why would you need so many missiles then?
    In this regard, it is more promising to shoot at point-blank range (i.e. RKPSN) and in vain you underestimate Poseidon with the Petrel.
  11. +3
    2 March 2023 14: 13
    Well, it's beautifully written. However, here's the problem - we are again preparing for what? to the nuclear apocalypse.
    In what case will it happen on our side? Where are our "red lines"? Probably, in the event of a LARGE-SCALE conventional attack, not just on the territory of the Russian Federation (a certain conflict over a local point like the Kuril Islands, probably overboard the "red line", although it provides for SEPARATE uses of low-power tactical nuclear weapons against enemy forces), but on its industrial / military / political centres. Or in the case of an unambiguous array of data that such an attack (including nuclear weapons) is not just planned, but is in the process of disposition for implementation.

    Simply, purely psychologically - what does "nuclear apocalypse" mean to us? Even if we assume that we released "all Pokémon", even if we were the first, even if the enemy is not ready - we must understand that the enemy will have some strength after that, and no one will "talk". Everything that exists will also fly - and there will be an overload of missile defense, destruction of megacities and infrastructure facilities such as dams, chemical plants, nuclear power plants, and strategic enterprises. He will fly to the capitals - even if he will fly to the suburbs. Because there is no 100% intercepting missile defense system and there are no 100% systems designed for the "nuclear doomsday".
    All this will definitely mean that in the event of a nuclear doomsday, even in the BEST case, life and affairs in our country will be even worse than now. Where, damn it, is it worse?)) Even Hieronymus Bosch could not portray the sodom that would begin in this territory, even in the MOST light version. Loss of industry, controllability, unpredictable regional separatism, famine, epidemics, environmental disasters, and so on and so forth. And yes, the war will not end, ladies and gentlemen! Who and what will we mobilize after?) What will they eat and what will their morals be? In general, what kind of morality will people have on "judgment day"? :) Here, even a baton may not work and you won't chat with affectionate words. Pandora's box, in a nutshell.

    I painted this whole juicy picture in order to have an understanding - what is the "cashback" for ourselves if the "red line" is, as they say, not back to back. One alignment on this issue was in the days of the USSR, when industry and the population were more or less ready for such a turn of affairs. And now it's a different arrangement.
    And all this brings me to the thesis that these very "red lines" are probably much "closer to the body" than it is seen by the layman. After all, not samurai are sitting in power, but ordinary people made of bones and flesh. With families and well-developed imaginations.

    That is, I repeat - except for the scenario where we have these same 40 units of nuclear weapons, ready to erase everything into plasma at once - our "nuclear deterrence" is a hell of an abstract construction, with a solid "cashback", most likely making it very difficult to decide on a massive application as such.
    For Americans, of course, all of these laws also apply. Modern civilization is greedy and fragile, there are too many divorced people who are simply eager to start hanging on lampposts those who are disgusted with them <further put who exactly, because xenophobia now blooms with all the colors of the rainbow> or simply rob and revel in the last days of the world. New Orleans or all those BLM bursts v. demonstrate it well.
    So for the United States, a "nuclear club" is the same "+ -" hypothetical as for us. Yes, they allow (as well as we, probably) the use of individual "tacticians" under certain conditions. But they do not allow a "nuclear apoc" in any form, that there is an oncoming one, that the first one is none. Numbers are numbers, but you yourself know that there are no ideal plans.

    And here we come to the main thing - knowing all this, who is stopping them from REALING us with something conventional-hybrid-economic-political, somewhere to the pink line, and somewhere completely shifting this very red one?
    YES NOTHING INTERFERES. NOTHING !
    And they will act in this way, because they know very well that "on neutral" the quantity-quality of everything that (even if we want) we put up will obviously be inferior to what they put up.
    And here is the plug - either we will not put up and there will be "blablablaa" again, or we will put up and we will be tied up there for a long time at best (a la Ukraine), and at worst we will be beaten. And here again there will be a fork - #NUCLEAR WEAPON or we live-how-we lived - an albatross in the sky and a crab back into the shell.
    Which one do you think we are most likely to choose?

    Here, that's the problem. All our moves are quite easy to calculate purely psychologically or financially. To get out of this vicious circle - we need to build up the economy, production and demographics. And to settle for the most part YOUR territory and the economic and political production that is still available to us.
    Otherwise, we will be HURT and we will not be able to do anything about it. It doesn’t matter how many mines, SSBNs and terrible, fat-assed missiles we have.
    1. 0
      2 March 2023 19: 59
      After all, not samurai are sitting in power, but ordinary people made of bones and flesh. With families and well-developed imaginations.
      I would also add that with families, for the most part, in the very west that the patriots want to bomb with a bang)
    2. 0
      3 March 2023 14: 47
      the quantity-quality of everything that (even if we want) we put up will obviously be inferior to what they put up.

      From what? And, yes, they are richer and mean smarter laughing
  12. +1
    2 March 2023 15: 17
    As for the PGRK and BZHRK, I strongly disagree, they should also be developed. It smells like Khrushchevism when, for the sake of rocket artillery and missiles, barrel artillery was almost ruined.
  13. +2
    2 March 2023 15: 57
    I do not like. long and empty texts, of course, I pay tribute to journalistic and journalistic talent, but the text is empty and about nothing. Usually, I quickly scroll through such texts, get to the numbers, read around, well, in order to remove at least some information. The only numbers I found. And here is just an ambush. These figures are -2300 km in 5,5 minutes. This is the second time I have come across VO with these numbers. Guys, please do not write nonsense, not a single BR, even the Trident-2, no matter how good it is, will overcome 2300 km in 5,5 minutes. At best, during this time - 300. well, 350 km maximum. Apparently, the authors read my articles 10-12 years ago in the military-industrial complex or in the Military Parade. there was a series of my articles on this topic, but they forgot the essence. Let me remind you of history. In the second half of the 1980s, from 1987 to 1989, Trident-2 underwent a series of test launches before being put into service. Americans were haunted by envy. "toad strangled". The Russians in the mid-1980s conducted test launches of their SS-5 (RT-24) and SS-23 (Topol) 25th generation ICBMs at ranges from 1000 to 10000 km. They usually tested their ICBMs and SLBMs at ranges from 60% to 100% range. Well, the BR doesn’t fly differently. They racked their brains until they received information on launches from ground-based specialized radars and satellites. The point is not only that the Russians "laid down the trajectory", they are in the "active sector" at the moment the first stage was completed. they shot not only the "empty" first stage, but also the "full" second. That is, she was not included in the work at all. We decided to try. and in 1989 they conducted a series of test launches of Trident-2 along the so-called "low-altitude trajectory" at a distance of 2000-2200 km. Disappointment came immediately after the first launches. By virtue of that. that the warheads spent most of the flight in "disturbed upper atmosphere". The CVO for the Mk 4 blocks was over 6400 meters, slightly better for the Mk 5 blocks - more than 4800 meters. In any case, the results were disappointing. Yes, and on the "flight time" failed to earn. it was at least 15 minutes. In general, they abandoned this type of missile attack back in 1989.
    1. 0
      3 March 2023 06: 59
      Quote from sergeyketonov
      ... These figures are -2300 km in 5,5 minutes. This is the second time I have come across VO with these numbers. Guys, please do not write nonsense, not a single BR, even the Trident-2, no matter how good it is, will overcome 2300 km in 5,5 minutes. At best, during this time - 300. well, 350 km maximum. Apparently, the authors read my articles 10-12 years ago in the military-industrial complex or in the Military Parade. there was a series of my articles on this topic, but they forgot the essence. Let me remind you of history. In the second half of the 1980s, from 1987 to 1989, Trident-2 underwent a series of test launches before being put into service. Americans were haunted by envy. "toad strangled". The Russians in the mid-1980s conducted test launches of their SS-5 (RT-24) and SS-23 (Topol) 25th generation ICBMs at ranges from 1000 to 10000 km. They usually tested their ICBMs and SLBMs at ranges from 60% to 100% range. Well, the BR doesn’t fly differently. They racked their brains until they received information on launches from ground-based specialized radars and satellites. The point is not only that the Russians "laid down the trajectory", they are in the "active sector" at the moment the first stage was completed. they shot not only the "empty" first stage, but also the "full" second. That is, she was not included in the work at all. We decided to try. and in 1989 they conducted a series of test launches of Trident-2 along the so-called "low-altitude trajectory" at a distance of 2000-2200 km. Disappointment came immediately after the first launches. By virtue of that. that the warheads spent most of the flight in "disturbed upper atmosphere". The CVO for the Mk 4 blocks was over 6400 meters, slightly better for the Mk 5 blocks - more than 4800 meters. In any case, the results were disappointing. Yes, and on the "flight time" failed to earn. it was at least 15 minutes. In general, they abandoned this type of missile attack back in 1989.


      The problem is that they apparently didn’t abandon the tests:
      https://pikabu.ru/story/pilotyi_avialaynera_a320snyali_na_video_unikalnyiy_zapusk_traydenta_iipo_nastilnoy_traektorii_6972345
      А это видео того полёта: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TW-JUB1pUQ&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B1%D1%86%D0%BE%D0%B2

      Those. they did not recognize the work as unpromising.

      And here are the old materials https://scienceandglobalsecurity.org/ru/archive/sgsr03gronlund.pdf
      1. 0
        3 March 2023 16: 02
        Andrey, they are not interested in this topic. Firstly, the Mk 5 block. even how perfect it is. behaves unimportantly at flat trajectories with apogees of 60 and 120 km. the atmosphere is not his element. And then why launch a 60-ton rocket at a distance of 2000 km, if the second stage, 20 tons of fuel, is not used in any way. They specially developed VPM modules for the Trident-2 launch cup - 2105 mm. now from memory. if I'm wrong, sorry - the launch module for four UGM-51A CPS missiles, they have just a range of 1850-2000 km. This module is suitable for both "Virginia" and "Ohio" and "Columbia" - instead of 16 "Trident-2" it can carry - 64 UGM-51A CPS "Dark Eagle" - "Ohio" -96 missiles
        1. 0
          3 March 2023 16: 17
          And besides, what's the point of shooting the Trident at a range of 2000 km. well, the Mk4 warhead will fall 7,6 km from the target. what harm will a 90 kiloton explosion bring to an object
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  15. +1
    2 March 2023 18: 12
    protected silo launchers (silos) are the only way to deploy intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) with nuclear warheads, in which their defeat is possible only with nuclear weapons, protected silos are invulnerable to conventional weapons
    Not a fact: look at the US bunker-piercing bombs. Yes, they have not yet been adapted to cruise missiles, but it is quite possible that the use of hypersonic missiles will make it possible to create a conventional missile to destroy ICBMs in a mine (besides, it is not necessary to destroy ICBMs, it is enough to prevent a launch).
    it is the understanding of this simple fact that makes the United States keep its ICBMs in protected silos on the American continent
    No, they are kept to "absorb" our warheads.
    Significant loss of stealth for all mobile objects (carriers), including SSBNs, PGRK and BZHRK, due to the progressive development of low-orbit constellations of reconnaissance, control and communications satellites
    Low orbit satellites can fly over the PGRK every 1.5 hours, but it’s not a fact that they will photograph it and it’s not a fact that they will recognize it in the picture. Let's say they filmed, the picture needs to be delivered, this is not an instant process, you need to fly to the reception point. Suppose it was this satellite that was allocated the resource of the relay satellite and after 10 minutes the picture was delivered. Suppose it was processed in a priority order, then a person worked with him, who confirmed the presence of a PGRK in the image, then they formed a flight task for the ICBM, then it flew to this place in 30 minutes. Where could the PGRK go for at least (at least!) A couple of hours? Yes, he must travel often, but he can do it and it is much cheaper than the constant duty of strategic aviation in the air. In addition, 2-3 cases from cars can be stuck on top of the PGRK, then it will be extremely problematic to recognize it. The main thing is not to be identified by the "retinue" - this is an important unmasking factor.
    For one real silo, it is necessary to build one or two false
    SHPU are very expensive. Very. 16 silos cost more than SSBNs. Silo simulators are a temporary solution: they will be detected by enemy intelligence one way or another, the only question is timing. Empty mines must be full-fledged so that the rocket can really stand there on the database. The States did not pull this off (they had a project where 1 mines were to be made for 10 MX, connected by an underground railway).
  16. 0
    2 March 2023 19: 44
    not for nothing that Reagan, not getting what he wanted from the Star Wars program, so briskly rushed to sign the START-1 treaty in 1991.


    Minor quibbles - in fact, Reagan stepped down from the presidency in early 1989.

    By the way, the START-1 treaty entered into force only in 1994, and the carriers and warheads were actually reduced under it only by the end of 2001.
  17. -1
    3 March 2023 09: 07
    Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
    So all nuclear parity, sooner or later, will be reduced to simple street wisdom - hit first and run.


    Nonsense. There will be nowhere to run.
    And by the way, there is a reliable way to reduce a nuclear conflict to a "combat draw" in any situation. Create non-transportable thermonuclear devices of gigaton power on your own territory and threaten to blow them up in case of aggression. Everyone is guaranteed to die and no missile defense will help here.
    In short, both shooters will fill up with concrete blocks. Complete finish.

    The article as a whole is frankly biased and amateurish. Reconnaissance means are being improved, but so are the methods of camouflage and countermeasures. It's just that not everything is talked about in public sources.
  18. 0
    3 March 2023 22: 54
    In my opinion, the author does not really understand what a mine with a rocket is and what a mobile launch complex is. Having some relation to the Strategic Missile Forces in the past, I can explain that in order to destroy a rocket it is not necessary to blow up the mine. It is enough just to shoot down the rocket at the start and initial boost Drive saboteurs with RPGs, MANPADS, large-caliber rifles to the area of ​​​​launch sites and > 50% of launching missiles, theoretically, can be destroyed at the start. ICBMs have been known for a long time and quite accurately, the construction of new ones, as it were, implies that if you have not seen a rocket loaded into it, then it is likely that this is an inflatable tank.
    A blow with a conventional weapon with an approach time of 5 minutes is something in the European part of Russia. But, I think that this is not a secret for a long time, since the time of the father of the Soviet people, comrade Stalin I.V. all strategic facilities critical to the security of the state were securely hidden in Siberia, Kazakhstan, in the Urals. And these are already different distances and reaction times. And we must remember that the first strike will be taken by air defense and a warning system in the form of an early warning radar. that 5 minutes from the moment a strike attempt was detected is not the time to make a decision about a retaliatory strike, this is a countdown to a retaliatory strike. It is clear that the aircraft will not have time to take off, the tanks will not start and leave the park, but nuclear submarines and mine launchers will have time to work out, and then highly mobile unpaved and railway platforms will follow.
    And yes, the calculation of possible carriers of nuclear weapons and the number of warheads amuse me personally - the author obviously deliberately inspires fear with the "splendid, invulnerable and elusive" missile weapons of a potential enemy. And I will add from the bottom of my heart - in the skirmish between Russia and the United States, unexpected participants may turn out to be China, Pakistan , India, Iran, South Africa. And unlike the author of the article, the Americans understand this very well. And it is likely that they want to live even more from this.
    Pysy. Remind me how many potential Chernobyls are in the USA, France, Germany, Britain, Japan? And for a big badaboom, it’s not necessary to send a couple of megatons there, there’s enough of something smaller and the level of damage from such a strike certainly becomes unacceptable. And the US ocean fleets become a legitimate target for anyone who understands their danger, even if they are "allies".