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Consequences of a global nuclear war

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Consequences of a global nuclear war

Global nuclear war



When they talk about a global nuclear war between Russia and the United States, which other official and unofficial members of the "nuclear club" will definitely join, they believe that this will mark the end of humanity. Radiation contamination of the area, "nuclear winter", some even believe that life will be completely destroyed, and the planet will split into pieces.

The complete destruction of life on Earth, as well as the splitting of the planet into parts, are such absurd scenarios that there is no point in even discussing them. This was impossible in the mid-80s of the last century, when the total number of nuclear charges on the planet exceeded 65 thousand warheads, and even more so now, when the total number of nuclear charges in all countries of the world, taking weapons (TNW) does not exceed 15-20 thousand warheads.


Estimated number of nuclear weapons in the world

Disputes about the possibility of a "nuclear winter" are still going on. Climate models are being built, discussions are underway. Some are inclined to believe that the "nuclear winter" will become almost a new ice age lasting decades, others argue that the "nuclear winter" will last several months and lead to local consequences, while others believe that a global nuclear war will generally lead to an increase in the greenhouse effect and global warming.

So which of these is more real?

First, despite the global growth of computing power, the emergence of neural networks and the improvement of software, climatologists still cannot predict the weather for a period exceeding several weeks with an acceptable probability. What can we say about predicting the climate after a global nuclear war?

Secondly, in terms of the impact of nuclear weapons on the planet's climate, one can draw an analogy with volcanic eruptions. For example, on August 27, 1883, the Krakatoa volcano erupted, located in the archipelago between the islands of Java and Sumatra. It is believed that the force of the explosion during the eruption of this volcano was 10 thousand times higher than the force of the explosion at Hiroshima. 18 cubic kilometers of ash were thrown into the air, burning stones scattered over an area of ​​four million square kilometers. At a distance of 60 kilometers from the site of the volcanic eruption, people burst their eardrums, the blast wave circled the Earth seven times. The average annual temperature in the northern hemisphere of the planet decreased by 0,8 degrees.

During the eruption of the supervolcano Tambora on the Indonesian island of Sumbawa in 1815, about 100 cubic kilometers of ash were thrown out. A significant amount of volcanic ash remained in the atmosphere at altitudes of up to 80 km for several years, the global temperature dropped by 2,5 degrees.


Illustration of the eruption of the supervolcano Tambor in 1815

What conclusion can be drawn from all this? Climatic changes in the event of a global nuclear war, of course, will take place, but they will not be a determining factor affecting the survival of mankind, rather, a negative addition to other factors.


A global nuclear war will not lead to either a nuclear winter or global warming, but it will definitely have a negative impact on the climate

Contrary to the statements of politicians and the military that a nuclear war can be "humane" and only military facilities will be bombed, the author has no doubt that a global nuclear war will be as "cannibalistic" as possible. At the moment when it becomes clear that the enemy's intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) have left the mines and their targets are unknown, a retaliatory strike will be delivered by all available forces in order to inflict maximum damage on the enemy. The targets will be the largest cities and industrial facilities, critical infrastructure facilities, nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants, storage facilities for spent nuclear materials and hazardous chemicals. The banned "nonexistent" biological and chemical weapons will be used.


Hiroshima. This is what most of the world's major cities might look like after a massive nuclear exchange

There is no doubt that neither the United States nor Russia will allow anyone to get a chance for global leadership in a post-nuclear world. Therefore, all developed industrial countries will receive their share of nuclear charges. Other members of the "nuclear club" will act in a similar way: North Korea will strike at the South, China and Pakistan will clash with India, Israel with the Arabs, and so on.

Despite all this, the end of life on Earth will not happen. It is difficult to predict what percentage of the population will be destroyed in a global nuclear war, in any case it will be billions of lives. Some will die immediately, some will die as a result of radiation and chemical contamination, epidemics, lack of medical assistance, hunger, cold and other factors. It can be assumed that at least half of the world's population will die in one way or another.

The rest will plunge ... no, not into the Stone Age, but into the beginning of the XNUMXth century completely.

Losses and causes


On the one hand, the destroyed humanity will have information about previously developed technologies, on the other hand, the conditions for restoration will be completely different from those that existed before. If we assume that humanity will roll back to a level of technological development roughly corresponding to the end of the First World War, then we can expect that in three decades people will again go into space, again create nuclear weapons, and in a hundred years they will return to "today".

In reality, there will be a number of complicating factors:

1. The highest urbanization of the population. At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, most of the population lived in rural areas, in houses with individual heating, sanitary facilities (albeit in a “vegetable garden”), a garden and a vegetable garden, and now more than half of the world's population lives in cities. High urbanization will lead not only to large losses in the first hours of a nuclear conflict, but also to the subsequent extinction of the population from cold, hunger and unsanitary conditions.


Increase in the share of the world's urban population


The urbanization of the population has led to the fact that tens and even thousands of villages were abandoned.

2. The extinction of the population will be facilitated by the general weakening of health, which arose during the weakening of natural selection: thanks to the success of medicine, those whose death was inevitable a hundred years ago now survive. This should not be taken as a call to return to families in which there were a dozen children, but half, or even two-thirds of them did not live to come of age, but the fact remains. In the event of a global war, without access to medicines, many will die, the birth rate will decrease, and maternal mortality will increase due to the lack of qualified assistance during childbirth.

3. The countries' orientation towards the post-industrial world will also contribute to the worsening of the situation. When they talked about the post-industrial world, this, of course, did not mean a post-nuclear world with a destroyed industry. It's not even about lawyers, financiers, managers and other similar professions that are in demand in our time, but about the fact that production and industry have changed in many ways. Where 1000 workers and 500 machine tools were previously required, now 10 CNC machines and 5 adjusters are enough for them. CNC machines require complex maintenance, specific consumables and quality blanks for their work. In the event of a global nuclear war, even if high-tech equipment does not break down immediately, it may become unusable over the next several months.

Even if old machines are found, five conventional CNC machine operators cannot replace 1000 skilled workers. And they are not, since they are not in demand and they are no longer trained. As a result, many professions will have to be mastered from scratch.


Modern manufacturing is unlikely to survive in a post-nuclear world

The same is true in everyday life. How many people can now sew clothes for themselves or at least fix them? In schools, labor lessons are often replaced by etiquette or religion lessons.

The number of those who can grow something by hand is gradually decreasing, and in some civilized countries the cultivation of food plants without a license is punishable by fines. It’s strange that they don’t go to jail for growing dill and potatoes.

4. The globalization of technological processes will further complicate the revival of the post-nuclear industry. There are no countries left in the world with complete production chains in all industries. Even the United States and China do not have all the necessary technologies and resources, something must necessarily be purchased in other countries. In Russia, after the collapse of the USSR, the situation is much worse: the dependence on foreign components is colossal. If the industry does not produce transistors and capacitors, then the problem is not only in their absence, but also in the absence of specialists who can understand how to produce them.

5. Compared to the world at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the extraction of resources in the post-nuclear world will become much more complicated. Many available deposits have been depleted, and those that do exist are far away and require high-tech equipment for extraction: deep-lying northern oil and gas, shale deposits, exhausted copper and uranium mines.

It is also unlikely that it will be possible to make "ecological" fuel in sufficient quantities - it would be enough for food. The reuse of metals from destroyed cities will be difficult due to the radiation induced in them.


Growing raw materials for biofuels can be an exorbitant luxury for the post-nuclear world

Thus, energy and resource hunger for the post-nuclear world will become a huge problem.

6. Radiation contamination of the terrain will additionally complicate the already complex resource extraction and movement across the terrain. The largest sources of resources themselves, most likely, will be subjected to nuclear bombardment, and will remain radioactive for several tens or hundreds of years - there will be no resources to deactivate them. Exploded nuclear power plants, which are highly likely to be destroyed in a global war, can create even greater problems. Dozens of "Chernobyls" will not only aggravate the problems outlined in paragraph 2, but will also create huge contaminated zones that impede the movement through them and the lives of people on their territory.


The explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant led to a global environmental disaster. The consequences of the destruction of dozens of nuclear power plants around the world, coupled with nuclear strikes, can be an order of magnitude more serious

7. Finally, a significant problem will be the destruction of the state structure in many countries of the world, widespread separatism, up to the level of individual settlements. Even if the leaders of individual countries of the world survive, it is far from the fact that they will be able to retain power and take control of the situation in their country.

All of the above problems are typical not only for Russia, as one might think, but also for almost all countries of the world.

Conclusion


Humanity is distinguished by the highest vitality, the ability to adapt to the most difficult conditions. There is no doubt that even in the event of a global nuclear conflict, humanity will survive and continue its development.

In combination, all seven of the above points can have a synergistic effect that will slow down the return of human civilization to the current level of development by several hundred years. Only one thing is certain: even after the most destructive nuclear conflict, wars on the planet will not stop.

We will talk about weapons and armaments that can be used in the post-nuclear world in another article.
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  1. bk316
    bk316 1 September 2020 18: 09 New
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    The forbidden "non-existent" will be used biologicale and chemical weapons.

    This alone may be enough for civilization to be destroyed. Man as a species will probably survive (here I agree), but civilization will roll back much further than the beginning of the 20th century.
    1. dSK
      dSK 1 September 2020 18: 44 New
      -6
      The Russian army will direct the main blow against the military targets of the enemy, and the States against the civilian population in order to morally break. It happened more than once. The most striking example is Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were no military objectives.
      And in WWII, during the bombing of Germany, residential quarters were smashed to pieces. A fresh example of Raqqa was smashed to rubble.
      Unfortunately, "civil defense" has been destroyed in Russia, bomb shelters have not been built for a long time, and civilian casualties can be enormous.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 1 September 2020 19: 08 New
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        Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were no military objectives.

        You shouldn't judge real life by school textbooks. I also graduated from the Soviet school, but after that I also read books, moreover, published in the USSR.
        Hiroshima is a large army warehouse, and a military port in the middle of an industrial zone.
        Hiroshima was also home to the headquarters of the Second Army Group, which defended the entire south of Japan, as well as the headquarters of the 59th Army and two divisions. In total, there were about forty thousand soldiers in the "peaceful city".
        Nagasaki is a large port, plus a kamikaze base, 200 exploding Shinyo boats and a hundred Renraku-tai boats., Large industrial enterprises (steel, shipbuilding, engineering and arms factories.
        "Fat Man" exploded 1300 meters from two Mitsubishi factories for the production of Type 91 air torpedoes and torpedoes for submarines. Nearby was the shipyard, which made the huge battleship "Musashi", and other factories.

        Details on warhead.su:
        https://warhead.su/2020/08/06/9-shkolnyh-zabluzhdeniy-o-hirosime-i-nagasaki-mirnye-goroda-i-ugryzeniya-sovesti
        1. dSK
          dSK 1 September 2020 19: 13 New
          -10
          But do you deny that the States will beat the civilian population first of all?
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 1 September 2020 19: 21 New
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            I did not serve in their general staff and I do not know the priority targets. In the same way, I do not know the plans of our General Staff, they do not inform, neither of them. And guessing on the coffee grounds and engaging in hysteria, sorry, I do not think it is reasonable enough.
            In any case, civilian casualties will be monstrous.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 1 September 2020 23: 45 New
              -23
              The complete destruction of life on Earth, as well as the splitting of the planet into parts, are such absurd scenarios

              I may say some amazing things, but it's true.

              Fact: Iron is magnetic.
              Consequence: in a dusty nebula, condensing into a planet, it is the particles containing iron that are first combined into a core, which leads to the formation of an iron core. It is this core that is now responsible for the planet's magnetic field.

              Fact: When squeezed, a substance heats up.
              Corollary: The nebula condensing around the core heated up, resulting in a thick layer of molten mantle around the iron core. It is the mantle that makes up the largest mass of the Earth.

              Fact: In a liquid, heavier substances settle down.
              Consequence: Uranium and transuranic elements settled down to the very border of the iron core. This concentration of radioactive substances led to the creation of a natural nuclear reactor. When in some part of the reactor, for whatever reason, nuclear reactions are accelerated, "going around" - convection flows arise due to the greater heating, and the reaction is inhibited.

              Fact: Shock waves cause the substance to thicken, and the denser radioactive substance is easier to initiate nuclear reactions.
              Corollary: Mass nuclear tests in the 20th century warmed up a planetary nuclear reactor. Unlike single asteroid falls, these explosions were from all sides, as a result, convection currents do not cope well. This is precisely the reason for the explosive increase in the number of earthquakes. Even if there are no more trials, earthquakes will only increase for the next several thousand years. Only after 10-15 thousand years will they decline. Detonating multiple bombs at once will detonate the planetary reactor.

              1. Private-K
                Private-K 2 September 2020 08: 55 New
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                Quote: Shurik70
                Fact: ....
                Corollary: ....

                Your posting, an illustrative example of how scientific factual knowledge can be distorted and idiotized by far-fetched "conclusions".
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 2 September 2020 09: 02 New
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                  Quote: Private-K
                  idiotize with far-fetched "conclusions"

                  To deny the explosion of earthquakes is to deny the facts
                  1. Private-K
                    Private-K 2 September 2020 09: 09 New
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                    Quote: Shurik70
                    To deny the explosion of earthquakes is to deny the facts

                    How many years have earthquakes been observed? 150? Those. what was funny for geophysics 1500 years ago we have no data? But some make global conclusions based on short-term incomplete data.
                    Human influence on the SIGNIFICANT planetary processes is near-zero.
              2. A009
                A009 2 September 2020 13: 02 New
                -1
                What's in your head? It's just tough!
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 2 September 2020 13: 20 New
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                  It is more optimistic to assume that the explosive increase in the number of earthquakes is associated with an increase in the activity of the planetary nuclear reactor, and someday, even after thousands of years, will decline. It is more optimistic than to assume that multiple attempts to obtain black holes at accelerators, starting from the 60s, were partially crowned with success, and microscopic black holes, falling between the atoms of the walls of the accelerator, failed, gradually increasing towards the center of the planet. And now they are growing ...
              3. bk316
                bk316 2 September 2020 15: 48 New
                +2
                Detonating multiple bombs at once will detonate the planetary reactor.

                Will you show the matmodel?
                Or at least the "reactor" model?
                You understand what the matter is, how not to offend ...
                Such statements without calculations have already been 200 years old - this is already the city's mad and illiterate shkoloty. Nobody except psychiatrists will even discuss them. laughing

                It's just that at the modern level of development of science, even a not very complex bot can throw hypotheses that sound reasonable laughing Therefore, without calculations, it is just 0
            2. Oprichnik
              Oprichnik 6 September 2020 20: 14 New
              0
              DSK is right, all wars since WW2 clearly show that the Americans are trying to destroy the population, because it works in factories and produces weapons and so on. Germany, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq - most clearly show and prove this. And if you remember the history of the destruction of the Indians, then you do not need to receive reports from the General Staff - and so everything is clear.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 6 September 2020 20: 34 New
                -1
                With Germany, everything is clear - the Destruction of Dresden is a response to what the Germans did to Coventry, then the term "coventry" arose and was introduced at the suggestion of the Germans, not the Americans.
                Regarding Korea, Vietnam and Iraq: if you provide data on cities destroyed by American aviation in these countries, I agree with you.
          2. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 1 September 2020 19: 22 New
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            All of the above problems are typical not only for Russia, as one might think, but also for almost all countries of the world.

            The author lost sight of the forest fires on the planet in the event of a nuclear war. Not only can the planet lose its "lungs", but the smoke from burning forests will be contaminated with radiation and it will not be easy to hide from it. I believe that not a small part of the world's population will suffer from fires.
            1. KLV
              KLV 7 September 2020 00: 06 New
              0
              The main oxygen in the atmosphere is not supplied by forests, but by the ocean.
          3. BISMARCK94
            BISMARCK94 1 September 2020 19: 36 New
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            But do you deny that the States will beat the civilian population first of all?

            Do you think our warheads will hit the amer bases in the desert, but the cities will not be touched? Needless to say, cities are targets for all parties.
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 3 September 2020 15: 38 New
              +2
              Most US bases are located near major cities. In addition to military bases, there are production facilities, at least for weapons, they are all in large cities. It is necessary to knock out the economic component of the enemy, the production of fuel, which means for various gas processing plants and refineries, power plants (this is listed in the article), and how can it be without seaports and terminals. Well, what about the top leaders of the state and the Armed Forces, as well as infrastructure and communications? Those. cities, cities and again cities.
              About power. 2004 earthquake in Thailand. Only the energy of the waves exceeded the energy of all the exploded ammunition of the WWII. It would be enough to boil 150 liters of water for every person on Earth. And by the way, to the question of the Poseidon nuclear torpedo, the tsunami passed 0.8 - 1.5 km from the coast and this is in an area where the coast and the bottom are flat. Enough for the port and city, but not as some citizens write enthusiastically, which will wash away the floor of America.
              You can write a lot, give examples ..... there is no desire to experience it.
              1. Oprichnik
                Oprichnik 6 September 2020 20: 16 New
                0
                Amers have several high-rise high-pressure dams of hydroelectric power stations - excellent targets for strikes, flooding will wash away a lot and drown a lot too.
                1. YOUR
                  YOUR 7 September 2020 01: 34 New
                  +1
                  As with us. I had the "good fortune" to see a man-made flood in 2013, when RusHydro decided to make water reserves in the Zeyskoye reservoir and in the Bureyskoye. What came of this must be remembered. One of the clearest examples is the chain of cadets of the Emergencies Ministry's school with a canopy instead of a dam.
                  All of this is double-edged. Everyone will suffer from the blows, I do not think that the inhabitants of Australia will watch this orgy with popcorn in their hands and they will get it. So well it .... it is better to argue in theory.
          4. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 2 September 2020 11: 33 New
            +5
            At the signal of "Atom" everyone will hit megalopolises. For megalopolises are not only population, but also key military facilities. Peter and San Diego, Moscow and Tokyo, Beijing and Mumbai ...
        2. Indifferent
          Indifferent 1 September 2020 20: 17 New
          +1
          And in Nagasaki, they sewed buttons for military uniforms!
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 1 September 2020 20: 22 New
            +4
            And there was a huge brothel to maintain the spirit of "bushido" among the personnel of the imperial fleet! laughing (also very funny))))
        3. mister-red
          mister-red 1 September 2020 22: 03 New
          +8
          You just need to add that by the time of the nuclear bombings, all the cities of Japan, except for these two, lay in ruins, which differed little from the ruins after nuclear strikes.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 2 September 2020 09: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: mister-red
            You just need to add that by the time of the nuclear bombings, all the cities of Japan, except for these two, lay in ruins, which differed little from the ruins after nuclear strikes.

            During the planning of the strikes, six targets were considered. The original list included:
            1) the arsenal in the city of Kokura, Japan's largest military production and supply center for a wide variety of military equipment. It occupied an area of ​​44 thousand square meters. Close to it were railway depots, machine-building plants and power plants;
            2) Hiroshima is a large center for the transfer of Japanese ground forces by sea and a point of formation of a sea convoy. This is the city in which the headquarters of the local ground forces were located, as well as a contingent of 25 thousand soldiers. Along the eastern border of the city there were railway depots, army depots and ports, where troops were loaded onto ships. Several large industrial facilities adjoined the main part of the city;
            3) Niigata is a port in the Sea of ​​Japan that has recently gained great importance. It had an aluminum plant and a very large metallurgical plant, as well as oil refineries and a port for refueling tankers;
            4) Kyoto is a cultural and industrial center with a population of about one million people. In the past, the capital of Japan. Recently, many industries and a large number of the population from the destroyed cities have been evacuated to this city. The large area occupied by this city made it possible to expect that the area of ​​destruction would be inside its territory, and this would help determine the destructive power of the bomb.
            © Leslie Groves
            Then Nagasaki and Yokohama were added. Moreover, on August 9, the main target of the bombing was Kokura, and Nagasaki was only a spare.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 September 2020 19: 09 New
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        Quote: dsk
        The Russian army will direct the main blow against the military targets of the enemy, and the States against the civilian population in order to morally break.

        Putin once said that in the event of a conflict, we will strike at the decision-making points. But ... I have a question - where are these decision points? Many will of course answer - Washington, London, etc. ... but for me, not everything is so obvious. I will explain.
        It has long been clear that the "legally elected" rulers are essentially just puppets. They act as heralds of the will of narrow circles of elites, who are the people who de facto make decisions.
        So where will the blow go? The whole question of the prospects for a nuclear war (yes, in fact, any global war of the past and future) is not the will of presidents and kings, but of these elite families. And as long as these elite families continue to exist and hold the power over the world in their hands, the question of any war will be only a matter of time. It doesn't matter how many nuclear weapons someone has. It doesn't matter from the word at all.
        1. Private-K
          Private-K 2 September 2020 09: 03 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          Putin once said that in the event of a conflict, we will strike a blow at decision-making points. But ... I have a question - where are these decision points?

          In almost 90% of cases, these will be:
          - country villas, villas in foreign countries
          - suburban VIP-hotels, VIP-hotels in foreign countries
          - yachts on external roadsteads of ports of non-nuclear countries
          - protected group and private bunkers, mainly next to the above villas and hotels
          - secret underground / basement shelters under large structures with subway exits ...
          1. Oprichnik
            Oprichnik 6 September 2020 20: 19 New
            +1
            Private-K will not have enough warheads for all of the above
        2. Charik
          Charik 2 September 2020 09: 47 New
          +2
          how is the mountain her-Cheyenne?

          and Yamantau in the Urals
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 September 2020 19: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: dsk
        Unfortunately, "civil defense" has been destroyed in Russia, bomb shelters have not been built for a long time, and civilian casualties can be enormous.

        And in other countries they never existed at all.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 1 September 2020 19: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: dsk
          Unfortunately, "civil defense" has been destroyed in Russia, bomb shelters have not been built for a long time, and civilian casualties can be enormous.

          And in other countries they never existed at all.

          Did we have a lot of full-fledged bomb shelters capable of receiving a certain number of people and allowing them to survive for some time without going to the surface? This time.
          And secondly, this is already a commentary on the article - the survival rate after a nuclear war in cities will be negligible, because now the urban population is completely tied to electricity and natural gas! And after the outbreak of war in the cities there will be neither one nor the other! The population is losing the habit of preserving and preserving. Refrigerators will not work, water will not pump, there is no light. A week later, mass famine will begin in the cities. There will be no delivery - nowhere! And the Ministry of Emergencies is not omnipotent, the same people work there and live in the same cities.
          And the industry will not work for the same reasons, plus a reduced number of engineers and technical personnel. Pessimistic? Yes, but this is the reality of our century.
          Yes, there is a lot more you can write, but these are horror films of the future that can be prevented.
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 1 September 2020 20: 10 New
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            Figs with him with hunger. Water. If the water is turned off in the city of a millionaire, in a week the sewage system will turn into a breeding ground for diseases. Then will begin "honoring" the territory adjacent to residential areas. Lack of water is not only thirst but also lack of hygiene. Those who do not know how to "wash in a basin" and "wash hands with a glass" risk getting sick very quickly. Lack of clean water is much more problematic than hunger.
            1. bk316
              bk316 2 September 2020 15: 52 New
              +1
              Lack of clean water is much more problematic than hunger

              Figs with her with water, primarily electricity. Without it, everything else will stop working.
              Food will go out very quickly and water will stop flowing; in winter, buildings will freeze in a day. In general, in the cities, everyone is amba.
              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin 2 September 2020 21: 25 New
                +1
                Controversial. Without electricity, a person with a head and hands can live. An old friend fire replaces electricity without problems. But water cannot.
                1. Kart
                  Kart 3 September 2020 09: 49 New
                  +2
                  Imagine a city with a population of 10 million.
                  How many of them will survive? Well, probably on the outskirts there are more chances - you can use your head and hands. And in the center?
                  There, too, of course, someone will survive, but only with iron hands.
                  In general, those who have the strength, that is, the weapon and the ability to use it, will survive.
                  These are most likely armed structures, part of the military, and finally, bandits. They organize tightly knit and well-armed communities.
                  And all this will furiously destroy each other for the remaining resources.
                  1. garri-lin
                    garri-lin 3 September 2020 11: 31 New
                    +1
                    This is the fifth most important problem that survivors will face. But gradually it will come out on top. Those who could not solve the first four problems will be banally eliminated in a natural way.
                2. bk316
                  bk316 3 September 2020 12: 54 New
                  0
                  But water cannot.

                  You did not understand. Do you think water in Moscow is taken from wells with buckets or is it flowing by gravity from water pipes? All pumps are pumped, and they are electric ...
                  1. garri-lin
                    garri-lin 3 September 2020 13: 17 New
                    0
                    About that and speech that just hitting electrically there will be problems. At the first stage, diesel generators will work a little more. Nobody will give water to the houses. And as a solarium for generators, the water sources will either be rivers contaminated with radioactive fallout. Or the wells / boreholes of Abessinka. Wells with a water surface of less than 8 meters will also not work without electricity.
                    Reads the question of how to generate electricity. No way. Generators only. Where to get fuel? Nowhere. Everything that was destroyed. Plus, modern civilian generators are demanding on fuel quality. They die on ersatz in a couple of hours.
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 3 September 2020 13: 40 New
                      0
                      Well, this is how I write - amba. You must leave the city immediately, if possible.
                      1. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 3 September 2020 14: 29 New
                        +2
                        Where to go? On the periphery, which is not affected by the blows, not fools live either. Refugees will be accepted at the first moment. Then they will filter. Locksmith / paramedic / engineer live. Barista / blogger / hustler, get out of here and don't come back. Then they just stop taking it. Due to the poisoning of the land, the food supply will only decrease.
              2. DDT
                DDT 11 September 2020 01: 36 New
                0
                And the villages are no better. There are few places left where they heat with firewood and illuminate with a torch. Matches, how long will they last? Soap, salt, and even to heat the house for people generators are, what about the fuel? There will be no communication, no food, as soon as the store stops supplying ... It is better not to go into it, the further the worse it gets. Therefore, peace to the world.
        2. dauria
          dauria 1 September 2020 19: 53 New
          +5
          And in other countries they never existed at all.


          The light converged like a wedge on the USA and Russia ... laughing Well, as predicted by 1980
          130 million on each side. For a couple of months, DB.
          And the planet is now 7 and a few billion. And feed without CNC machines. Well, Argentina finds out that something has gone bang somewhere. So what ? Interrupt the carnival? I don’t think so. Embellished by the author. Europe seams, the United States will be tight, Russia and China. The rest don't care. Africans will not notice the "drop in living standards" - they are still not far from the 19th century. At least with gadgets. even without them.
          Yes, and I have ceased to be afraid of a nuclear apocalypse. Previously, under the USSR, I knew that it was real. And now it's nonsense. They chicken out and decide "like a kid." That is, they will press their tail and agree.
          1. Kart
            Kart 3 September 2020 09: 57 New
            +2
            If forests burn and nuclear power plants are destroyed (and they will be), wind and radioactive precipitation will force the carnival in Argentina to be interrupted.
            This is the main problem - it will spread everything across all territories in six months. It's just that Africans won't know why they are dying out.
      4. Alf
        Alf 1 September 2020 19: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: dsk
        The Russian army will direct the main blow against the military objectives of the enemy,

        Situation.
        Our warning system says that American missiles have left the mines and submarines, our president and chief of the General Staff are pressing the "red button". The question is who and what will they beat? The mines are already empty ..
        1. Operator
          Operator 1 September 2020 19: 58 New
          +7
          The first blow is counter-force, the retaliatory one is counter-value (mobility resource, that is, the population).
          1. Alf
            Alf 1 September 2020 20: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Operator
            The first blow is counterforce,

            Through empty mines? Maximum, on control centers, and who knows where they will be moved.
        2. mister-red
          mister-red 1 September 2020 22: 06 New
          +5
          I was always surprised and amazed that some people think that there will be some kind of nuclear strike on ICBM mines. Both Russia and the United States, after receiving the signal of the attack, will release all the missiles from the shah.
          In Russia, only Voevada can survive and start after a nuclear attack, the United States has nothing. So it's highly unlikely that the missiles are targeting the mines. There is no banal sense.
        3. bk316
          bk316 2 September 2020 16: 01 New
          +2
          The mines are already empty.

          Well, you lie as a little. The mines and we will be empty until their ICBMs reach.
          There is no point in hitting the mines.
          Therefore the blow will
          - on missile defense and early warning systems (to increase the effectiveness of the strike itself)
          - by decision-making centers, by communication nodes, by headquarters (and by the way, preventive too, in the hope of avoiding a response).
          - on mobile strategic nuclear forces (not yet dispersed)
          - on the infrastructure of the military (what would happen if they didn’t use any conventional weapons) and civil (what would be chaos)
          - in large cities (damage to the population)


          For the Russian Federation, this means that almost everything will fly in Moscow and the Central Industrial District.
          And here it is impossible to survive within a radius of 1000 km, because the targets are simply located more densely.
        4. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 16 October 2020 07: 57 New
          0
          Alf "The mines are already empty .."
          They will hit the industrial centers, first of all, in order to inflict irreparable damage, both human and economic .. Well, and on military facilities. That they could not recover.
      5. kytx
        kytx 1 September 2020 20: 56 New
        -1
        "The bomb shelters have not been built for a long time and the civilian casualties can be huge."
        protected objects in the Russian Federation are being built to this day, including for civilians.
        recently I personally witnessed the verification of the citizens' notification system (just like in the good old days in the USSR)
        But of course it is far from the scale of the Union. Is it really necessary?
        I have visited many shelters built by the Union, both military and civil, in most cases they do not impress at all (mines and CP do not count)
        and a lot of resources were buried in them
        1. kytx
          kytx 1 September 2020 21: 01 New
          0
          Well, if, to be honest, on civilians (old people, women with children) it will sharply, uh, it will not be shorter for them
          resources will remain in a narrow circle
          1. kytx
            kytx 2 September 2020 02: 56 New
            +1
            Well, minus to screw up a simple matter, but to justify or correct this is already beyond the capabilities of some users.
            here it is generally accepted to justify their disagreement, well, it was like that before.
            although the minuses are indifferent to me on the level of income and life experience does not affect.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 1 September 2020 22: 34 New
          +2
          And in what time and how many civilians, if you hit Moscow at 18.53 on a weekday, can you place in a shelter?
          I'll tell you myself - 0 point, fucking tenths ...

          So no shelter will help ...
          Even a hundred civilians all over the country.

          A shelter during a nuclear missile strike will save the lives of only those personnel who, at the moment of the strike, were on shift / duty in this very shelter.
          1. kytx
            kytx 2 September 2020 03: 19 New
            +1
            Well, these are only mines and CPs, but they also have a short period of activity, ideally - withstand the first blow, shoot your own, make sure that it seems to have flown away to the right place, and that's all.
            command of the troops and the country as a whole will be disrupted for a long time.
            not a single country in the world is ready for nuclear mixing in all seriousness, and this is probably impossible.
            As for Moscow: those who accidentally find themselves in deep metro stations may survive. Although all cash will be dumped on Moscow, of course.
            well it is - an attempt at a positive joke.
            1. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 2 September 2020 11: 38 New
              0
              According to the plans of the 80s, about 15-20BB from the Tridents and MX. For - key management structures + missile defense. However, the "response" for DC, NY, LA and SD was even more abruptly planned (because the BB at the "Voevoda" is more powerful)
          2. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 2 September 2020 08: 41 New
            0
            but what about the metro?))))
            1. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 2 September 2020 11: 39 New
              +1
              No way. Wait a day or two, yes. And then the fuel for emergency DGs runs out, ventilation, water supply, etc. :(
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 2 September 2020 12: 16 New
                0
                eh. will not work like in a book
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 2 September 2020 12: 35 New
                  +1
                  As in the book, it will definitely not work. To feed 1 person, you need at least 3-4 acres of fertile land. Even though the entire metro is turned into greenhouses, there will still be hunger. And this is if the advance will attend to water wells. With a depth of over 100 meters. And that maybe the water is contaminated.
              2. garri-lin
                garri-lin 2 September 2020 12: 31 New
                0
                I have never heard that in the ventilation system of the subway there were filters capable of removing radioactive dust. It would be more logical not to ventilate the tunnels after ventilation.
                1. kytx
                  kytx 6 September 2020 15: 21 New
                  0
                  At some stations they were for sure. The tunnel is closed with a pressurized gate. It is unrealistic to ventilate the tunnel.
                  like Glukhovsky does not work. Yeah
                  And as the metro wrote above, this shelter is for a short time, then you will have to climb out and it seems to me that the OZK will not be enough for everyone :(
                  1. garri-lin
                    garri-lin 8 September 2020 22: 34 New
                    0
                    And where to get out? Radiation to the ruins. If evacuation is organized, then people will have a scanty chance.
              3. Aleksandr123
                Aleksandr123 9 September 2020 21: 53 New
                0
                The subway can still flood and fill up in places.
          3. sektant777
            sektant777 3 September 2020 10: 00 New
            -1
            And the subway? Many will take refuge in the subway, there is everything for survival in a nuclear strike.
            1. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 3 September 2020 12: 37 New
              +1
              Within 1-2, maximum - 3 days.
          4. DDT
            DDT 11 September 2020 01: 41 New
            0
            what, forgot the CWP? In which case, the first thing in the subway. To the subway
            To run to the bomb shelter, with a dump on the street, a crush? Panic? I don't think it's real
      6. mikstepanenko
        mikstepanenko 7 September 2020 20: 35 New
        0
        Hiroshima and Nagasaki became targets of the atomic bombing for the simple reason that there were no others. ALL major cities in Japan have already been bombed to rubble by conventional bombs.
    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 1 September 2020 22: 57 New
      -7
      The whole article is false information ...
      The Supreme Court of Russia, in its latest review of judicial practice, clarified the circumstances under which a person can be held criminally liable for disseminating false information. The fundamental point: a person must be aware that he is placing a fake. In this case, the article also includes the distribution of false information through instant messengers: WhatsApp, Viber and others.
      Photo: iStock Photo: iStock Photo: iStock
      "Posting by a person on the network, in particular, on his page or on the page of other users, of material containing false information, created by himself or by another person (including the so-called repost), can be qualified under Article 207.1 or 207.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation only in cases when it was established that a person acted with direct intent, was aware that the information he posted under the guise of reliable information was false, and had the purpose of bringing this information to the attention of other persons, "the Supreme Court of Russia explained.

      https://rg.ru/2020/04/30/vs-obiasnil-kogda-mozhet-nastupat-ugolovnaia-otvetstvennost-za-fejki.html
    3. Megatron
      Megatron 8 September 2020 12: 45 New
      0
      Oh, would Yellowstone bang!
      1. Cuba
        Cuba 5 October 2020 07: 13 New
        +1
        Perhaps their blacks bang no worse than a volcano !!
    4. Cuba
      Cuba 5 October 2020 07: 12 New
      0
      It seems that this has already happened in the history of the planet ..... mankind loves ritual dances on a rake!
  2. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 1 September 2020 18: 15 New
    +8
    As I understand it, comrades, authors who are spreading their opuses en masse for World War 3, what's in the mattress that we have (on the same VO) - are you preparing the population morally for a nuclear war, accustoming them to the idea of ​​inevitability? Are you out of your mind ???
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 1 September 2020 18: 21 New
      11
      As I understand it, comrades, authors who are spreading their opuses en masse for World War 3, what's in the mattress that we have (on the same VO) - are you preparing the population morally for a nuclear war, accustoming them to the idea of ​​inevitability? Are you out of your mind ???

      Why is that? Anything can be. Nobody believed in a pandemic either.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 1 September 2020 18: 29 New
        +5
        .......... and this abyss swallowed him ... uno-uno-ain-momento
      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 1 September 2020 22: 21 New
        +1
        What does faith have to do with it? We compared it ... with a finger ...
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 2 September 2020 00: 59 New
          +1
          What does faith have to do with it? We compared it ... with a finger ...

          While an unlikely event is not incredible.
          There are many predictive structures in the world from supercomputers to psychics, but no one hinted in January about what happened in June.

          Here you write:
          Are you out of your mind ???

          Do you think the Americans were out of their minds before Hiroshima?
          The nuclear war has ALREADY been.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 September 2020 19: 16 New
      0
      Quote: akarfoxhound
      As I understand it, comrades the authors who are spreading their opuses in large quantities

      If they write, then the articles are in demand. Read "Overton Windows".
      1. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 1 September 2020 22: 23 New
        -2
        Topics that excite people are always in demand. And on this, the journalists cut coupons. But here there is a process of people getting used to thinking. I completely agree with your thought, I actually wrote about overton windows.
    3. dauria
      dauria 1 September 2020 20: 12 New
      +2
      Are you out of your mind ???

      Didn't you have a CWP in your school? And beautiful posters with the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion. They did not teach how to make cotton-gauze bandages ... laughing
      But the military was preparing, and not only the officers. And they remember the "flash on the right" ... wink
      Well, for more horror I will give advice - the most radiation-resistant butter. Scrape off 2 mm of oil with radioactive dust - and you can safely eat it even for children without harm. And wash your hair - the main collector of infection tongue
      1. Alf
        Alf 1 September 2020 20: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: dauria
        the most radiation-resistant butter.

        Where can I get it? There is one palm tree around. laughing
      2. alsoclean
        alsoclean 1 September 2020 21: 48 New
        +2
        Scrape off 2 mm of oil with radioactive dust - and you can safely burst it even for children without harm.

        Are you serious? Or are you kidding? Do you understand the concept of "radioactive dust"? Do you know how alpha emitting plutonium differs from beta strontium or gamma cesium 137? And their amazing abilities? Do you know how external radiation differs from internal radiation?
        Of course, I understand that the contingent of the site may not be very literate ... But still, you shouldn't troll so rudely ...
        1. dauria
          dauria 1 September 2020 22: 11 New
          -2
          Are you serious? Or are you kidding?

          I am quite serious. Because any cadet of any military school of the USSR studied the discipline "Weapons of Mass Destruction and Protection of Troops and Objects." Nuclear, chemical, bacteriological and (here's the trick) - incendiary. Do you know what a "mixed defeat" is? The colonel, who taught these wisdom, even told how a shepherd dog survived three explosions of a shell with an OV. So the competent advice on how not to die of stupidity in this mess you will rather hear from the military, and not from a nuclear physicist. And their advice is based on hundreds of trials in everything you can. From animals, food, water, shelter, iron and measurements of everything that is possible. And not on the Schrödinger equation for a particle in a potential well. laughing
          1. alsoclean
            alsoclean 1 September 2020 23: 31 New
            +2
            So the competent advice on how not to die of stupidity in this mess you will rather hear from the military, and not from a nuclear physicist.

            Well, the article was about the Consequences! And about the military - not worth it. They have a utilitarian task - can you hold a weapon? Press the buttons? - means order! And we are about something else!
            “And this is the result of the Chernobyl accident for the Russian“ Chernobyl ”region - if before 1986 in the Bryansk region there was not a single case of thyroid cancer in children, according to Lyudmila Kolmogortseva, now it is a common tragedy.
            Lyudmila Kolmogortseva: “During this period, more than 2 cases of thyroid cancer, confirmed in children. The Bryansk region took first place in the world in the number of thyroid cancer in children (proportionally - RFI) ... "
            This is Americium 410! Not Schrödinger's cat. This is pain and death here and now! And only the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. One!
            And if there are many such "Chernobyls"?
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 September 2020 22: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: dauria
        Well, for more horror I will give advice - the most radiation-resistant butter.

        Cow's milk is radioactive, distilled into butter and there is no radioactivity.
        1. dauria
          dauria 1 September 2020 22: 44 New
          -3
          Cow's milk is radioactive, distilled into oil and there is no radioactivity


          No not like this. In fact, stocks of products in different types of packaging were tested in the zones of radioactive "footprint". And then we looked at what we could eat and how much to cut and discard. No kidding. You will have to eat after the end of the world. laughing The numbers in the textbook, everything was long ago. For 40 years everything is forgotten. But I remembered the story about a dog burying its face in the ground and surviving the explosion of a chemical shell.
          1. akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 2 September 2020 00: 21 New
            0
            For a "reasonable" dog - I doubt it very much, I realized what exactly exploded and "buried" its muzzle, yeah And did you lie down with its hind legs from the explosion? laughing
            The fact that this topic of protection from OV was noticed after the "attack of the dead" in WW1 - I read it, everything in the description was justified, I agree. But fighters and officers are not a dog, by the nature of their use they could figure it out. And they spat blood, repulsed the attack, but did not survive. And it was the first world war, and there were still "those", effectively deadly, but "unpretentious" in comparison with today's cocktails. And our chemists also talked about the practice, one "grandfather of chemical troops", with a rare for a chemist chasing Fosgenych, while we were doing color painting zones under his leadership, also hounded about his participation in exercises with real undermining and running of infantry over the remaining splendor. And I don’t remember the brave stories about how great it was, none of the participants in the "race" in a short time later did not sneeze.
            And jellied bikes are the army norm. Or is it news? wink About 20 years ago, guys / ship repairers in Sevastopol, in all seriousness, told me the "heroic" flights of one squadron commander, how he, while flying with a pair of wings of his fighter, quietly knocked on the lantern of his wingman, like paying attention to something there. And I have known this squadron commander personally for a long time, a really good pilot and at the same time a good joker. And now try to convince the hard workers later that it was a funny mess with a serious face! But if you believe everything ... then you can see Su rushing along the wing laughing
            1. dauria
              dauria 2 September 2020 12: 40 New
              -1
              For a "reasonable" dog - I doubt it very much, I realized what exactly exploded and "buried" its face, yeah


              Yes, doubt, your right. Some do not believe that the Earth is a ball. The dog is one of hundreds that are tied up in trials. And it is not surprising that at least one of them will have a protective reflex. Surprised, tied up again and watched. People left - buried her face. They began to approach - stuck it out. She died for the third time by a mixed shrapnel defeat. It is simply an indicator of soil adsorption.
      4. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 1 September 2020 23: 07 New
        +2
        A graduate of the Soviet high school.
        40 years of service in the Armed Forces.
        According to the RKhBZ, everything was always normal, and not only in the military school, therefore, I associate the striking factors of nuclear power with serious things, and not with horror or your Molodomukhtar delight. laughing
        And if you were an officer and you have a radiant joy of being from the world application of nuclear weapons, then either you shouldn’t deeply inhale dichloroethane in the class of “chemists,” otherwise it seems that only “for cotton-gauze” means your consciousness ended, or somewhere with hunger 2 mm of butter with "seasoning" for the buter was not scraped, it is not worth being greedy in some moments of life tongue tongue tongue
        1. dauria
          dauria 1 September 2020 23: 46 New
          0
          And if you were an officer and you have a radiant joy of being from the world application of nuclear weapons,

          Was, do not hesitate. And I saw the war. And I don't have the joy of being from 100 million corpses. Only we were taught that we should not crawl to the cemetery, but command and work. And get to the Bay of Biscay, your mother ... Forcing subordinates to be able to do elementary decontamination, think about what they will eat, how to hide and how much they will last at different doses. Snot dissolve with 40 years of service. Dichloroethane did not swallow, the gas mask was carefully selected. Gunpowder smelled - sour. hi
    4. snake
      snake 1 September 2020 21: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: akarfoxhound
      As I understand it, comrades, authors who are spreading their opuses en masse for World War 3, what's in the mattress that we have (on the same VO) - are you preparing the population morally for a nuclear war, accustoming them to the idea of ​​inevitability? Are you out of your mind ???

      The Overton window in action. If a few years ago they said that the stocks of nuclear weapons would be enough to split the Earth several times, now there have been articles in the spirit: Not all will survive. Those who survive will envy the dead. There will be Ad and Israel, cannibalism and the absence of YouTube. But, in general, humanity as a species will survive. In general, some unhealthy notes of optimism began to slip in the description of the apocalypse. See enough of their Mad Max, and then write articles ...
      1. Sentinel-vs
        Sentinel-vs 2 September 2020 09: 56 New
        0
        Do you think that it is extremely important for the military to start a nuclear war to prepare the population with the help of Overton windows? Not at all.
        There is absolutely no nuclear hysteria now. I remember that I went to school at the end of the 80s, and we were small, somehow, even on a drill, were removed from classes and led in an even formation to the bomb shelter. Posters with the damaging factors of nuclear weapons, biological weapons, cluster munitions hung picturesquely in the OBZh office. I remember lectures on HBO so far that most chemical warfare agents have a pleasant smell, etc.
        And what films did you shoot? "Threads", "The next day", "Terminator 1,2" is the same. Cartoon "Barefoot Gen". Really nuclear nightmares could have dreamed after such views.
        It was then that such Overton Windows were open, that Mama, do not cry. And now everyone has calmed down with the massive use of nuclear weapons.
        1. snake
          snake 2 September 2020 12: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Sentinel-vs
          Really nuclear nightmares could have dreamed after such views.

          That's just it. I had nightmares - I didn't want to start a nuclear war. And what is the post-apocalypse now? Metro 2033, Fallout, Mad Max 2015, Dancing to the Death (God forgive me). The same Terminator has become now? Some laughter ... ki and funny fights.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 07: 57 New
        0
        Well Duc capital during the economic crisis. It is necessary to hang noodles on the ears of the population. So that on occasion it patriotically died for the interests of capital.
    5. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 1 September 2020 23: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: akarfoxhound
      As I understand it, comrades, authors who are spreading their opuses en masse for World War 3, what's in the mattress that we have (on the same VO) - are you preparing the population morally for a nuclear war, accustoming them to the idea of ​​inevitability? Are you out of your mind ???


      I fully support you.
    6. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 07: 48 New
      -1
      And there is. That ours, that their capitalists are ready to drive humanity into the Stone Age and destroy a huge part of it for the sake of their economic interests.
      1. Egg
        Egg 9 September 2020 08: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        That ours, that their capitalists are ready to drive mankind into the Stone Age and destroy a huge part of it for the sake of their economic interests

        I often hear about these interests ... but how can I not understand what the interest is? In the fact that the population working for the capitalists, consuming the products of the capitalists and ensuring their prosperity with their money will decrease? Is this the interest? Reducing their income?
  3. WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 1 September 2020 18: 21 New
    +1
    Good, efficient article, thanks to the author.
    I look forward to continuing.
  4. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 1 September 2020 18: 23 New
    +2
    There will be no stone unturned from nuclear powers and in general. If and who survives, it will be somewhere in Australia, New Zealand or Africa.
    1. Wwk7260
      Wwk7260 1 September 2020 18: 30 New
      -1
      Have you read the article? If you do not agree, give your arguments, why not stay? So far, only emotions.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 September 2020 19: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      There will be no stone unturned from nuclear powers and in general. If and who survives, it will be somewhere in Australia, New Zealand or Africa.

      As long as nuclear charges fly from one nuclear country to another, no more than a fifth of them will remain, and the rest will have time to reach, only to those countries that do not have these weapons. And this weapon is aimed not only at the mills that created the nuclear weapons, but also at the countries on whose territory the nuclear weapons are located. The United States is building its bases on the territory of Romania, and what do you think, will nuclear weapons be directed at them, or not? And how far from the same Romania to Bulgaria. So in the event of a war, all missiles of both opponents will fly in all directions, and both the right and the guilty will fall under the distribution. So the whole world needs to go to the supermarket and buy brains.
    3. ivanec
      ivanec 7 September 2020 10: 34 New
      +1
      Not sure about New Zealand
  5. dgonni
    dgonni 1 September 2020 18: 26 New
    +3
    All the answers to the author's questions and reasoning were given by smart people for a long time!
    (I do not know with what weapon they will fight in the Third World War, but in the Fourth they will fight with sticks and stones.
    - Albert Einstein)
    1. mister-red
      mister-red 1 September 2020 22: 09 New
      0
      I do not know with what weapon they will fight in the Third World War, but in the Fourth they will fight with sticks and stones.
      - Albert Einstein

      This is a figurative expression.
      1. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 1 September 2020 23: 09 New
        0
        Figurative but accurate
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 1 September 2020 23: 23 New
          -4
          After JV, only cockroaches will survive.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 3 September 2020 12: 43 New
            -4
            Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
            After JV, only cockroaches will survive.

            If cockroaches bother you, open windows wide open in winter and turn off the heating. Cockroaches will die even without a nuclear war. True, with open windows, in addition to cockroaches, you can also lose household appliances with savings
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  6. itis
    itis 1 September 2020 18: 27 New
    -12
    nuclear war will only benefit. Because of this weapon that does not fire, the hypocrisy in relationships has surpassed all reasonable indicators.
    according to the most pessimistic calculations of the last century, it buries itself near the lard of the most arrogant population. and the life of the species will continue.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 September 2020 19: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: itis
      from a nuclear war only benefit will be.

      And what will you gurgle if a nuclear charge arrives at your doorstep? fellow
      1. Alf
        Alf 1 September 2020 20: 27 New
        -1
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: itis
        from a nuclear war only benefit will be.

        And what will you gurgle if a nuclear charge arrives at your doorstep? fellow

        I will accept it with understanding.
  7. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 1 September 2020 18: 30 New
    +3
    The author considers isolated cases as examples. Eruptions, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
    But he immediately gives an approximate amount of nuclear weapons. What will happen when they are practically simultaneously brought out to Humanity? Moreover, the downed missiles will crash to the ground or explode in the air and still add radiation.
    Radiation is a factor against which living organisms have no protection. Shockwave, Amy, flash ... It's all one-time and won't reach everyone. But what about the decay period of hundreds of years? Where to run if there is the same source of radiation in the neighboring area?
    I repeat: watch the film "At the Last Shore". The end of civilization and Humanity is very colorfully described there.
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 1 September 2020 18: 50 New
      +1
      The book is better. Atmospheric.
    2. Turist1996
      Turist1996 1 September 2020 20: 54 New
      0
      Radiation .. I read somewhere, they set up an experiment on rats: the population in H-th number of rats was placed in conditions, many times with an increased radioactive "background" compared to the usual one. Half of the population died prematurely. The rest gave birth to offspring. Of the offspring, only a quarter died prematurely, the rest gave birth to offspring .. The bottom line is that after several generations the population recovered and came to the same mortality rates as before being placed in special conditions.
      Further, the increased radiation "background" was removed. And again - the same picture: half of the population became extinct, the second gave birth to offspring, in this generation - a quarter dies out, then mortality falls to the initial level.
      These are the mechanisms of natural adaptation.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 1 September 2020 21: 10 New
        0
        At times - maybe. The same Chernobyl proof. And if dozens of times? Hundreds? We were also told in the WMD classes that the main thing is to sit out in the shelter for a month. The radiation will fall so many times, and then ...
        And then rot from leukemia? Are there game, fish and mushrooms that are riddled with radiation?
        When I was on an excursion to Chernobyl, we were told that everyone working in the "dirty" zone after the shift goes through a special chair on which their internal background is read. So it immediately changes if the workers, contrary to the ban, ate local mushrooms or fish.
        But a third of a century has passed and they do not eat all the time ...
      2. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 3 September 2020 12: 45 New
        -4
        Quote: Turist1996
        Radiation .. I read somewhere, they set up an experiment on rats: the population in H-th number of rats was placed in conditions, many times with an increased radioactive "background" compared to the usual one. Half of the population died prematurely. The rest gave birth to offspring. Of the offspring, only a quarter died prematurely, the rest gave birth to offspring .. The bottom line is that after several generations the population recovered and came to the same mortality rates as before being placed in special conditions.
        Further, the increased radiation "background" was removed. And again - the same picture: half of the population became extinct, the second gave birth to offspring, in this generation - a quarter dies out, then mortality falls to the initial level.
        These are the mechanisms of natural adaptation.

        At times this is nothing, the norm is 25 microns, well, for example, the background is increased 10 times, 250 again is nothing. But when the window shines for 1r hour, that's the ass
    3. Charik
      Charik 2 September 2020 10: 04 New
      0
      hollywood
    4. DrEng527
      DrEng527 2 September 2020 11: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Radiation is a factor against which living organisms have no protection.

      nonsense! hi humanity arose and lives under conditions of irradiation - from space ... request
      therefore, living organisms have the ability to stop the effects of radiation - some of the cells from the population die at very high doses ... and some live in reactors ... hi
    5. Bobrick
      Bobrick 1 October 2020 18: 27 New
      0
      Nuclear charges in modern times are very clean (more than 90% of the reacted substance, with a substance mass of several kg).
      Even in the event of a charge failure, the amount of nuclear material is very small, in this case the nuclear power plant is much more dangerous.
      Well, one more plus, materials with a long half-life of hundreds of years will give a much lower background than any iodine-131 with a half-life of 7-8 days.

      Even a person has protection from radiation, the simplest option is a dark skin color (ultraviolet light is also ionizing radiation, it completely ionizes oxygen). In addition, there are other options for protection from immunity, to intracellular mechanisms of DNA repair.
      Well, the most interesting thing is that all the radioactive materials that exist now appeared on earth at some point, and judging by the depth of the strata (less than that of oil strata), complex multicellular life on the planet in those years already existed (up to dinosaurs), and from for the same decay, they fonili are several times or ten times stronger than now.

      Of course, life will definitely be bad, many will die, but there will definitely not be radioactive fallout approaching across the oceans like a sandstorm.
  8. Tektor
    Tektor 1 September 2020 18: 33 New
    0
    There is a small "but". The owners of the game will not allow the mass destruction of people. This is contrary to their interests. Until the day of judgment. There will be no more conflicts with mass loss of life. WMD will not be applied. The Galactic Federation of Light and its commander Ashtar Sheran will not let you lie.
  9. Operator
    Operator 1 September 2020 18: 35 New
    -3
    In a global nuclear conflict with massive radioactive contamination from three-stage thermonuclear charges, land / coastal nuclear explosions and the destruction of nuclear power plants, those peoples with the lowest population density - Russians, Australians, New Zealanders, Argentines and Namibians - will survive.
    1. Alf
      Alf 1 September 2020 20: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Operator
      Russians

      To survive, we will survive, what will we eat and what kind of water to drink?
      1. Operator
        Operator 1 September 2020 20: 59 New
        -2
        With water, everything is under control - membrane filters / reverse osmosis, with food - hydroponics, of course.
        1. Alf
          Alf 1 September 2020 21: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: Operator
          Everything is in control with water - membrane filters / reverse osmosis,

          Himself in the bunker, but the rest?
          1. Operator
            Operator 1 September 2020 22: 07 New
            -2
            I have a water filter in my kitchen - with a membrane and reverse osmosis.

            The bunker in the village has not yet muddied laughing
            1. Alf
              Alf 1 September 2020 22: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: Operator
              The bunker in the village has not yet muddied

              Imperfection. laughing
            2. garri-lin
              garri-lin 1 September 2020 22: 57 New
              +2
              How long will the cartridges last? Six months? Year? For drinking only? And how to wash your hands? Will it be possible to produce in a post-nuclear world? The technology is very complex and expensive. And since it's expensive, you won't be able to have a stock.
              1. Operator
                Operator 2 September 2020 01: 13 New
                -1
                I have enough for two years, it costs about a thousand rubles a cartridge.
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 2 September 2020 01: 53 New
                  0
                  Thousand rubles for each cartridge. They need either 3 or 4. 2 years is a long time. Usually a cartridge is enough for a couple of tons. Raw water means pure. Lucky.
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 2 September 2020 07: 58 New
                    0
                    And what is the actual problem - with my monthly pension I can buy cartridges for 36 years.
                    1. garri-lin
                      garri-lin 2 September 2020 10: 04 New
                      0
                      Wow, you have a pension !!!! Congratulations. I don’t know what setting you have. That's what I'm dealing with 11 t. P. For a year. How much is the minimum required pressure?
                    2. DrEng527
                      DrEng527 2 September 2020 11: 22 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Operator
                      I can buy cartridges for 36 years on my monthly pension.

                      AKM is still needed to protect individual asylum ... hi air filters at the inlet to the hopper ... wink
                    3. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A 2 September 2020 15: 09 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Operator
                      And what is the actual problem - with my monthly pension I can buy cartridges for 36 years.

                      When will you realize that you have to run and buy?
                      Will you have time to buy, then?

                      Balabolka ...
            3. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 2 September 2020 00: 25 New
              0
              Quote: Operator
              I have a water filter in my kitchen - with a membrane and reverse osmosis.

              And a well in the yard?
              1. Operator
                Operator 2 September 2020 01: 14 New
                -2
                Offended - a well.
                1. DrEng527
                  DrEng527 2 September 2020 11: 24 New
                  0
                  Quote: Operator
                  Offended - a well.

                  then why a filter from r / a substances? they will go through the ground for a long time ... request
                  1. garri-lin
                    garri-lin 2 September 2020 12: 41 New
                    0
                    Up to the first level of groundwater before the first heavy shower. Wells 60-80 meters deep will last longer, but not more than a year. Winter is summer and radiation will be delivered there.
                    1. DrEng527
                      DrEng527 2 September 2020 16: 12 New
                      0
                      Quote: garri-lin
                      Winter is summer and radiation will be delivered there.

                      most will remain in the ground when seeping ... request
                      1. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 2 September 2020 21: 19 New
                        0
                        Will accumulate and then spontaneously wash out again and poison the water. Depends on the specific source of infection.
                2. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 2 September 2020 15: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Operator
                  Offended - a well.

                  And those who will have strength and power in the period of anarchy and banditry will knock down a pensioner with clean water.
                  They won't be left alive.
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 2 September 2020 17: 50 New
                    -2
                    I am a working pensioner where they will knock anyone laughing
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A 2 September 2020 20: 26 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Operator
                      I am a working pensioner where they will knock anyone laughing

                      Reminds me of a mouse in front of a mirror in an old Soviet children's joke ..
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                      3. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A 3 September 2020 12: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Operator
                        At least I am doing my best to make you a consumable.


                        An internal enemy?
                        Who is ready to destroy all the inhabitants of his country?

                        So, nevertheless, those who said that such a spontaneous and aggressive urya-patriotism (which has nothing to do with real patriotism), which in huge quantities swept over all Internet sites, was a consequence of the actions of the State Department to destroy our society from the inside, were right ...
  • Undecim
    Undecim 1 September 2020 18: 38 New
    10
    First, despite the global growth of computing power, the emergence of neural networks and the improvement of software, climatologists still cannot predict the weather for a period exceeding several weeks with an acceptable probability. What can we say about predicting the climate after a global nuclear war?
    Invalid comparison. Forecasting the weather and predicting the consequences of the release of hundreds or even thousands of cubic kilometers of ash and hundreds of millions of tons of sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere are completely different tasks.
    Similarly, the comparison with volcanic eruptions is incorrect.
    Today, the combined capacity of the US and Russian nuclear arsenals is approximately 13 megatons. The eruption of the Tambora volcano, which caused severe climatic anomalies on the planet in 000, is equivalent to about 1816 megatons, but the consequences of a volcanic eruption and many thermonuclear explosions will be very different.
    Well, the author missed another very significant consequence - global hunger.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 September 2020 19: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Undecim
      Well, the author missed another very significant consequence - global hunger.

      And not adaptability to survival among the urban population.
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 1 September 2020 23: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: Undecim
      Well, the author missed another very significant consequence - global hunger.
      Not entirely missed:
      It is also unlikely that it will be possible to make "ecological" fuel in sufficient quantities - it would be enough for food.
      But I probably didn't attach any importance. And the problem is that agriculture will slide back to its original conditions: no machining, only muscle traction. And here we remember the equivalents:
      people - 0,15 kW,
      horse - 0,5-0,8 kW,
      tractor - 150 +++ kW ... i.e. a tractor replaces 180 horses and / or more than 1000 people.
      And another question of fertilizers ...
      1. t-12
        t-12 15 October 2020 23: 59 New
        -1
        Well, not all tractors will fail. Fuel reserves are in the state reserve. Plus firewood and local sources of coal and peat (using gas generators).
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 16 October 2020 16: 53 New
          0
          Quote: t-12
          Well, not all tractors will fail.
          All . It's a question of time. As soon as the means of production of means of production are covered ... everything. There is such a recursion in the world with this that any sneeze can jam everything.
          Peat, firewood - they need to be obtained.
          1. t-12
            t-12 16 October 2020 22: 07 New
            -1
            Well I do not know. Clay in the European part of Russia is at every step. Brick is easily made from clay. A blast furnace is made of bricks, and we already have metallurgy. Tools of labor are made of metal. A steam engine is made of metal without any problems. With a steam engine, you can mechanize land cultivation, coal mining, etc. And there it is not far from the internal combustion engine.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 16 October 2020 22: 25 New
              0
              Quote: t-12
              Brick is easily made from clay. A blast furnace is made of bricks, and we already have metallurgy.
              No. This is not metallurgy yet. Metallurgy is not just blast furnaces, but also chemistry and physics.

              Quote: t-12
              A steam engine is made of metal without any problems.
              So hassle-free that from the beginning iron centuries millennia passed before copper we made a steam engine.

              Quote: t-12
              With a steam engine, you can mechanize land cultivation, coal mining, etc.
              It is possible, but very difficult to go from the pump to the tractor.

              Quote: t-12
              And there it is not far from the internal combustion engine.
              Not far away. Only whole chains of technologies are needed.

              Can you estimate how many tools and devices are needed to produce, say, a paper clip? The simplest.
              1 - digging stick for mining iron-bearing sandstone or swamp ore,
              2 - bucket / bag ...
              ... Further?
              1. t-12
                t-12 16 October 2020 23: 09 New
                -1
                If we talk about nuclear post-up, then for the first time you can not mine ore, but collect scrap metal (by checking it for induced radiation). Well, if suddenly there is no scrap metal, then:
                1. Digger stick or hewn wooden shovel.
                2. Bag (twisted from strong stems of grass) or earthen bowl
                3. Trolley with wheels hewn from wood
                4. Sieve for primary screening
                5. Brick blast furnace
                6. Fur for blast furnaces (made of some kind of fabric, for example grass).
                7. Smithy with mechanical tools, a furnace and a hammer (muscular or hydraulic if there is a river nearby).
                8. Textbooks / instructions for all this (at first - on clay tablets). Although paper textbooks will remain after the post-up, they will most likely be burned for heating, and e-books need electricity ... although there will be enough low-power solar panels, of which millions have been produced.
                9. Well, one more thing ...
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 17 October 2020 13: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: t-12
                  3. Trolley with wheels hewn from wood
                  5. Brick blast furnace
                  Not necessarily.
                  Quote: t-12
                  8. Tutorials / instructions for it all
                  Aha! Try to download the tutorial "iron products from scratch" (or something like that). I do not need - I know that, although I was interested / studied for a long time.
                  Quote: t-12
                  9. Well, one more thing ...

                  - hammer - for grinding,
                  - ax - chop wood,
                  - clay and water with grass (instead of a brick blast furnace),
                  - tool for finished iron:
                  - ticks,
                  - hammer and hammer,
                  - anvil,
                  - soap,
                  - set of gauges for wire,
                  - dies for bending,
                  - chisel ...
                  ... and still "something else".
                  And that's just a paper clip.
                  At the same time, the wild burnout of iron during hot forging due to its quality and composition.
    3. Bobrick
      Bobrick 1 October 2020 18: 45 New
      0
      So then the very statement about the occurrence of a nuclear winter is incorrect, since all existing models were originally built on the effects of cooling from massive forest fires or large volcanic eruptions, this is given that in the 50s and 60s the number of nuclear explosions per year was measured in hundreds, and the effect was not even observed.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 1 October 2020 19: 11 New
        +2
        More than a hundred in the period from 1945 to today there were only two times - in 1958 - 103 and in 1962 - 138.
        There are more than 2000 in total, but most of them are underground, so there could be no effect.
        1. Bobrick
          Bobrick 1 October 2020 19: 59 New
          0
          Most of the underground tests date back to the period after the triple test ban in 1963. It is incorrect to say so, and there is no specific breakdown on Wednesdays in these years.

          The second point is that the average power of the tested charges in those years is comparable to modern ones, which, given their quite significant number (100 bombs is about 6% of the current number of warheads of the strategic nuclear forces of Russia or the United States), should have caused at least some effect observed throughout the world ( an increase in the background throughout the planet, or a decrease in temperature by at least tenths of a degree), which for some reason was not observed.

          The problem of nuclear winter is also that in some cases it is justified by massive fires, which is also little confirmed by practice (the same forest fires or fires of oil fields in Kuwait with millions of tons of soot, since a whole billion barrels of oil burned out, do not cause or did not cause any global climate changes)
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 1 October 2020 20: 30 New
            -1
            should have caused at least some effect observed all over the world (an increase in the background throughout the planet, or a decrease in temperature by at least tenths of a degree), which for some reason was not observed.
            Do you have such data?
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            2. Bobrick
              Bobrick 1 October 2020 21: 26 New
              0
              Statistics of the deviation of the average temperature for the 20th century (yes, it can be easily refuted, but according to the schedule, no connection is noticeable).

              Here is a diagram of separation by radiation sources (also controversial, but given the very significant number of tests, the effect is very small).
  • parusnik
    parusnik 1 September 2020 18: 51 New
    +2
    The article is full of optimism ... laughing It's okay, so little things in life ... smile
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 1 September 2020 20: 42 New
      +1
      Not at all trifles - that is what they say: in the event of a global nuclear war of modern civilization in its current state, a complete "kirdyk" is definitely shining! But there is definitely no talk about the complete destruction of humanity ..
      Let's go back to the plow and flintlock rifles - what a big deal! wassat
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 2 September 2020 22: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Turist1996

        Let's go back to the plow and flintlock rifles - what a big deal! wassat


        That's it ...
        That it will be extremely problematic to return.

        We do not know the rules of the agriculture that was 100 years ago.
        Moreover, modern technologies of genetic modification in grain preparation, developed by such global corporations as Monsanto, have practically brought the situation to the point that grains from the grown crop will not grow and give the next harvest ...

        There is no clothing production culture.
        Hunting as a way of obtaining protein and protein is extremely unrealistic, since the number of wild animals has decreased thousands of times.
        We don't know how to make candles.
        We don't know how to make tar.
        We don't know how to make ropes and we don't know what to make them out of.

        And so in everything.
        Due to technological progress - We have completely lost the culture of production of goods and services, which we will have to get into.

        And we will not have time to swing.
        There will be no food, after 5 days we sit down exhausted, and after another 5 days we will simply die ...

        There is no time for buildup - this is the biggest problem for the "hitmen" ...
        1. t-12
          t-12 15 October 2020 23: 50 New
          -1
          Cabbage soup and porridge are our food. And the squirrel (animal) - on rare holidays, Commoners for hundreds of years lived like this, somehow survived. Candles are made from fat. The rope is made of plant fibers.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 23 October 2020 22: 35 New
            0
            Quote: t-12
            Cabbage soup and porridge are our food. And the squirrel (animal) - on rare holidays, Commoners for hundreds of years lived like this, somehow survived. Candles are made from fat. The rope is made of plant fibers.


            Where will you get animal fat? From an empty five?
            And from the fibers of the plants what will you make and from what plants?
            Hemp?
            When was the last time you saw cannabis and how long did you see it, considering. that you need millions of candles instead of bulbs ...
            hitmen, damn it ..
            1. t-12
              t-12 23 October 2020 23: 19 New
              -1
              Can be made from hemp, can be made from nettle. Nettles grow ... well, almost everywhere.
              And the candles will not be millions, but much less. The elite will use the candles.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 1 September 2020 18: 56 New
    +6
    I read somewhere that the main direction of preparing the population for a nuclear war is precisely the conviction of the population that everything will not be so scary.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 1 September 2020 19: 04 New
      +2
      "Well, think about an injection, injected and went" (c) smile
  • garri-lin
    garri-lin 1 September 2020 18: 57 New
    +6
    The explosions of nuclear weapons themselves will not have a greater impact on the environment. And the consequences of the destruction of goals. One nuclear power plant destroyed by a direct hit will pollute the area ten times worse than the Chernobyl one. Chemical plants. Chemical and nuclear waste storage facilities. Gigamt oil storage fires and well flares. It is not possible to calculate the harm to the environment. But it can be huge. The fertile land may well be almost completely infested. For a single reason. Where there is such a land there is a civilization and there will be beaten. And the degradation of "a man capable of at least something" is in full swing. I can even throw in the outline for the article.
  • kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 1 September 2020 19: 14 New
    -1
    The article is certainly wonderful. I just want to clarify: Only those who are acclimatized to nuclear contamination will survive and will give birth. This is a long road and could throw humanity back several hundred years.
    1. Alf
      Alf 1 September 2020 20: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: kriwo.alek
      Will survive and give birth

      I would not like to look at that offspring ...
    2. hjvtp1966
      hjvtp1966 12 September 2020 23: 44 New
      +1
      I have never been a physicist, I just believe that the consequences of exposure to the radiation component of nuclear weapons are unnecessarily dramatized. And the military is well aware of this, they are preparing with might and main to conduct hostilities in the conditions of the use of nuclear weapons. The Japanese never left Hiroshima or Nagasaki for a day, and their reverent attitude towards health is well known. So not everything is so scary. The incidence will, of course, jump up, but against the backdrop of mountains of burnt corpses and a humanitarian disaster, the increase in the percentage of cancer patients will be the least of the problems.
  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 1 September 2020 19: 32 New
    -2
    US scientists calculate how many nuclear warheads are needed for the apocalypse to come

    More details: https://www.newsru.com/world/15jun2018/100nuclear.html
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 1 September 2020 19: 51 New
    +2
    There is a hypothesis that we are not the first civilization on Earth.
    1. Alf
      Alf 1 September 2020 20: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: Pavel57
      There is a hypothesis that we are not the first civilization on Earth.

      Judging by our frostbite and lawlessness, the last one.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 1 September 2020 20: 57 New
        0
        Read the story "Letter to Phoenix" is a very thoughtful work.
  • iouris
    iouris 1 September 2020 20: 09 New
    -3
    Somehow I can't believe that nuclear weapons still exist. For too long and deeply sat "specialists" from the United States at all the nuclear facilities of the USSR in the early 1990s, there were too many reports of "murders for the purpose of robbery" and deaths of defense scientists, then some incomprehensible people replaced them after training, internships and stay in the United States or NATO countries.
  • Turist1996
    Turist1996 1 September 2020 20: 36 New
    -1
    Definitely, the article is a plus! Sensibly and without "snot"!
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 1 September 2020 20: 55 New
    0
    World War III began with biological weapons, not nuclear ones. Hit with a covid. Moreover, there is no war between states, religions or political camps. There is a caste of the rich, who are hindered by a large part of the population, and therefore they carry out random selection.
  • mister-red
    mister-red 1 September 2020 22: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: Tektor
    There is a small "but". The owners of the game will not allow the mass destruction of people.

    There is one more small but - the situation can easily get out of control.
  • Glagol1
    Glagol1 1 September 2020 23: 03 New
    0
    Rather yes, there will be a winner. But at a cost higher than the victory of the USSR in WWII.
    Is the outcome of amers to zero is not worth it. In 50 years the world will rush into a bright future, without amers.
  • Andy-1970
    Andy-1970 2 September 2020 02: 14 New
    -1
    The consequences of an exchange of nuclear missile strikes can be as described by the author. But the author, whether deliberately, or considering that this has nothing to do with the topic, bypassed the real potential of modern strategic missile defense, both Russia and the United States. Earlier, the military talked about the missile defense division and the missile defense position area of ​​Moscow / Central Industrial Region to the Ural Mountains. In the latest messages from the MORF, we are already talking about the ABM army, and, based on the fact that the army formation includes 3-4 divisions, I would venture to assume the completion of the construction of another 2-3 positional missile defense areas covering Siberia and the Far East with an iron dome. Modern kinetic interceptors of interceptor missiles do not create damaging factors of a nuclear explosion and, at the level of modern missile defense technologies, provide guaranteed interception in two echelons. And for a response to an aggressor to a preventive nuclear missile strike, if it creates technological risks for the single national economic complex of Russia, there has long been a 4202 product, including nuclear equipment, which, it should be noted, the “partners” do not yet have. And the North American missile defense system, consisting of GBI / SM-3, is not capable of guaranteed interception of such objects. Therefore, taking into account the material resources already invested in the national strategic missile defense, I believe that it is necessary to carry out work to improve the interceptors of the "A-235" system, taking into account the appearance in the armament of the "partners" of hypersonic maneuvering units, similar to those recently shown to us in cartoons ...
  • Alexander Yaroshenko
    Alexander Yaroshenko 2 September 2020 02: 22 New
    +2
    Yeah, comrade drowns for the globalists, and stands up for the reduction of the population by nuclear strikes, telling tales that this type is not terrible, he is not even afraid of long-lived radioactive isotopes, the flag is in his hands and the Inhabited Island in addition
  • kytx
    kytx 2 September 2020 03: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Arzt
    What does faith have to do with it? We compared it ... with a finger ...

    While an unlikely event is not incredible.
    There are many predictive structures in the world from supercomputers to psychics, but no one hinted in January about what happened in June.

    Here you write:
    Are you out of your mind ???

    Do you think the Americans were out of their minds before Hiroshima?
    The nuclear war has ALREADY been.

    Of course in their own way: they conducted tests in combat conditions and showed the whole world, especially the Union, their new capabilities. The losses from Yao were much less than from traditional carpet bombing.
    and it was clear to Japan that he was not a tenant.
    I personally do not consider this incident a full-fledged nuclear war, so the light demo version.
    the Yankees and Vietnam wanted to zhahnut, they say they postponed it 3 hours before departure.
    1. kytx
      kytx 2 September 2020 04: 05 New
      0
      Still.
      chemical weapons also took place in WWII, but occasionally they were very local. But no one calls VMB2 chemical. But the PMA is quite.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 2 September 2020 04: 27 New
    -3
    This article is about the Volga empties into the Caspian Sea.
    The author of the article needs to understand that not first-graders live here on the site, and accordingly, the author needs to show more respect to the readers of the site.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 September 2020 09: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Tektor
    ... The owners of the game will not allow the mass destruction of people

    Too optimistic judgment.
  • Old Orc
    Old Orc 2 September 2020 11: 09 New
    0
    Fertility will not decrease but increase. Without contraception and abortion, a woman either gives birth or dies. but yes, the survival rate of babies will be greatly reduced. in addition, there will be a significant mortality of people who are currently being pulled out by medicine for diabetics, heart disease, etc. one more moment will leave a significant number of the elderly and old population due to the stress and tension of those who survived the first wave, and these are people with experience of working with their hands, which will hit the industrial states even more.
  • seacap
    seacap 2 September 2020 12: 24 New
    0
    Quote: mister-red
    which differed little from the ruins after nuclear strikes.

    Including Tokyo, which was burned out by an all-out carpet bombing worse than Dresden and Hamburg
  • feokot1982
    feokot1982 2 September 2020 15: 31 New
    +1
    Excellent article, I fully share the thoughts of the author
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 3 September 2020 00: 30 New
    0
    This is the Pandora's box that you better not open.
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 3 September 2020 15: 24 New
    +1
    Real Slavic-Rus should not be afraid of the Last Battle wassat
  • meandr51
    meandr51 3 September 2020 17: 34 New
    0
    Quote: Alf
    Through empty mines? Maximum, on control centers, and who knows where they will be moved.

    There are a lot of military facilities in addition to the notorious missile silos. The living force of the enemy army must be completely destroyed. All aviation, the entire fleet, all warehouses and communications.
  • demos1111
    demos1111 8 September 2020 12: 38 New
    0
    I did not understand something. It's like the stories of Tom Clancy, America's war against Russia. But Russia has hats with earflaps.
    But what about the charges in the cobalt shell? Several of these, and the northern hemisphere has been shining for a hundred years.
    Now there may be fewer charges, but humanity has made great strides in the development of radioactive materials.
    It’s one thing when the reactor of a station bursts under pressure, and quite another when all the fuel that was in the reactor is scattered around by a nuclear explosion.
    In general, it is interesting to calculate the area of ​​contamination of the territory during the explosion of a bomb in a cobalt shell at an altitude of 25 km.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 8 September 2020 13: 10 New
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    Just in case, those who are "lucky" to survive the 40 minute war (that is how long the exchange of blows will last), I recommend that everyone now carefully start studying videos on YouTube (and generally subscribe to the chela's channel) under the general heading "Primitive Technologies". Well, it's natural to do for yourself an amendment to the climatic realities of Russia. Whoever suddenly has a link to his book in Russian, then I ask for a link.
  • sentaniel
    sentaniel 8 September 2020 16: 28 New
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    It's funny, but in 2018 I had a dream about a nuclear war. Specifically, how 4 warheads flew across Yekaterinburg. Three in the north and one in the south (from the factories, as I understand it, they arrived). Then I still figured out on a special map (web application) the affected area if 100 or 150 kilotons. And then on one of the forums I read that in 2018, in one of the parallel worlds, a nuclear war happened just in 2018. And in our branch of reality, we were close to it in 2015, in the spring, I think.
  • Arabfun
    Arabfun 8 September 2020 23: 55 New
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    Women will give birth only to mutantoa, humanity will die out from hunger in parallel, they will eat each other.
  • Egg
    Egg 9 September 2020 08: 04 New
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    Quote: garri-lin
    Locksmith / paramedic / engineer live. Barista / blogger / davalka

    I think you are mistaken about the davalka laughing laughing
  • Mokaev Hakim
    Mokaev Hakim 9 September 2020 11: 33 New
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    In the event of a nuclear post-apocalypse, I look forward to visiting the village of Upper Balkaria, Kabardino-Balkarian Republic. We have a small, recently reconstructed hydroelectric power station, a lot of cabbage, apples, lamb and magnificent landscapes))))) The truth about cereal dishes can be forgotten, there is no good land. Close the tunnel in the gorge and sit in the mountain "fortress"
  • itis
    itis 9 September 2020 15: 57 New
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    "humanity is not threatened with death.
    a person gets used to everything "
    in school eighties I remember this alignment: with a mutual attack, immediately lard (mostly white race).
    over the next five years, two more. then it was almost six.
    only half of the heads from the herd!
    nothing will end, but only begin.
    and again not the strongest will survive, but the most cunning.
  • Spring fluff
    Spring fluff 11 September 2020 00: 48 New
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    The level of the article is depressing. A couple of numbers and text as long as war and peace at the level of a housewife magazine. Ok, the author indicated how many warheads the Russian Federation has. Next, how many will be launched and with what carriers? Wiki suggests that there are fewer than 600 carriers with about 1500 warheads. What is the possible number of targets - military and civil, taking into account the primacy, and not one by the United States, but taking into account the NATO countries. Warhead interception rate? Areas of destruction in case of detonation based on the power of the warheads we have in comparison with the areas of settlements? For a number of targets, it seems necessary to lay more than one warhead for duplication. What is left in the end? Will all be released according to NATO? Will we leave nothing as a reserve for some non-NATO neighbors on the left and below? They can come to the left for fuel and land. Not that they will come from below, but simply we have no one on the right. And without eastern resources, the central Russian Federation looks pale
  • HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 11 September 2020 12: 49 New
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    Damn, and in our city there is a hydroelectric power station and a wood chemical plant, one rocket is definitely provided for us, in Soviet times we had a missile unit for the defense of the city, now there is nothing for hundreds of kilometers, plus in Irkutsk Yarsy, in our region they will beat for three days, there will be little pleasant, but I will have half an hour to have time to dump on the "hacienda", it is under the mountain, the shock wave will not catch, there is a cellar, pickles, jams, potatoes, a stove stove)
  • Pavel Shadoyan
    Pavel Shadoyan 14 September 2020 18: 55 New
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    It was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines, and walk on them
  • Dmitry Vladimirovich Volkov
    Dmitry Vladimirovich Volkov 4 October 2020 12: 03 New
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    Well, in general, such things are written in order to form one or another attitude towards the very fact of the use of nuclear weapons. In this article they write that it will be very painful, but not critical. This attitude is quite correlated with our nuclear doctrine, which in turn proceeds from our practical capabilities. Well, actually - what's the difference, gentlemen? We will all die in any case and without exception, wolves are afraid not to go to the forest! With the scoop, we were mortally afraid and where is this scoop now? Yes, scoop! And let's make an effort not to become like him so that he doesn't end up
  • Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 6 October 2020 19: 02 New
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    States will not get involved only in a shootout with the Russian Federation. Otherwise, untouched China will remain on the sidelines, which will declare itself immediately after the Apocalypse. They cannot allow this, therefore, only a blow to us is unlikely. But then China will have to be forced to react in response. This will help us.
  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 10 October 2020 06: 37 New
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    In general, only North Korea will survive.)))
    1. t-12
      t-12 15 October 2020 23: 20 New
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      The DPRK will survive because they have universal military training and periodic drills with a run to shelters. And we have only philosophizing: "why do we need shelters", "but there will still be radiation", "let there be no war", "why discuss all sorts of horror stories", etc.
  • Maxim73
    Maxim73 16 October 2020 10: 17 New
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    On the one hand, I really, really want to live, but on the other, in this situation, it will not work out for long. House next to NPO Energomash, dacha next to ZATO near Moscow
  • Glagol1
    Glagol1 21 October 2020 19: 22 New
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    If one of the warheads strikes at Yellowstone, another at the California Rift, and the rest at other targets, then the world will still survive, and the United States is definitely gone. Alaska and Hawaii will remain, but most likely already as independent states.
    For this perspective, 3 MB can already be started. What a wonderful world it will be without America!