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"National Horsemen" vs. Cuirassiers

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Manuel Crommenaker. Attack of the Swedish drabants


Time goes by, you can't forget about it
We must not live our youth in vain,
Bravely in love
Catch happiness
Remember that you are not without reason
You are called a hussar.
Time goes by, it won't wait for us,
We are not given to live our lives twice.
Remember, hussar:
Do not expect happiness
Happily go to meet!
Operetta "Princess of the Circus". Lyrics: J. Eichenwald, O. Kleiner


Military affairs at the turn of the eras. So, last time we stopped at the fact that at the turn of two eras, namely the 1812th and XNUMXth centuries, in different countries of Europe, almost simultaneously, old cuirassiers were replaced by completely new ones, Polish plate "winged" hussars disappeared, and in general they began to wear armor not fashionable, so at times even the cuirassiers did not have them. So it was on the eve of the war of XNUMX in Russia, but the Saxon cuirassiers did not receive cuirassiers and ... and so they were cut with Russian cuirassiers in the rye on the Borodino field without cuirasses! And at the same time, many varieties of lighter cavalry appeared, which did not have any protective equipment at all and heavy horses, which at least were among the Saxons and which operated on the flanks of the heavy cavalry, and in the rear of the enemy, and even on foot, like infantry. And someone even threw hand grenades, which, however, they quickly abandoned due to the imperfection of this weapons... And in European countries, national cavalry units appeared, many of which proved themselves so well that they soon turned from national to international ones, like, for example, all the same hussars. And some of them remained as national formations. It was so. And we will continue our today's story about this light cavalry.

Today, on the map of Europe, there is such a state as Bosnia and Herzegovina (which until 1992 were part of Yugoslavia). Residents of the Muslim faith are called Bosnians. They were originally Christians, but converted to Islam after Turkish rule was established in Bosnia in the late XNUMXth and early XNUMXth centuries. They did this in order to preserve their land ownership and privileges. True, it was required to pay for this, sacrificing not only faith, but also life. The fact is that in feudal Turkey, anyone who owned land was obliged to go into military service in case of war, so the Bosnians served in all Turkish armies of that time.

In 1740, the War of the Austrian Succession began. The Prussian king Frederick wanted to annex the rich province of Silesia, but Austria opposed this, which was a sufficient reason for war. At the very beginning of the war, known as the First Silesian War, Saxony was on the side of Prussia, but decided to change her. Preparing for a possible continuation of the war, the emissaries of the Saxon Elector in 1744 were sent to Ukraine to recruit people for the Saxon cavalry. The reaction of the Cossacks turned out to be negative, but they still managed to lure out of the Turks about 100 Bosnians - light horsemen armed with spears who guarded the Turkish border in Ukraine. So the Bosnians ended up in Dresden. But there they were met by emissaries from Prussia and promised them more than the Saxons, and the Bosnians ... went to Prussia. In 1745, Frederick founded a regular Bosnian corps, one of which became part of the 5th Hussar Regiment, also known as the Black Hussars (Totenkopf), symbolized by the famous “death's head”.

The hostilities continued during the Second Silesian War and ended in 1748, but the Bosnians remained in the service. In 1756, for the same reasons, a new war broke out between Austria and Prussia, the Seven Years. Its scale was such that it led to an acute shortage of human resources and forced Frederick to recruit soldiers on the side, whatever, anyone. Light horsemen from the east (Poles, Lithuanians, Tatars), all came to the court of the great Frederick and were included in the Bosnian cavalry, which by 1760 had grown to 10 squadrons. In the same year, the Bosnians became a regular light cavalry regiment in his army at No. 9.


Prussian Bosnian spearman 1760 Fig. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC - AD1914. L .: Cassell, 1994. P.169

After the end of the war in 1763, the regiment was disbanded, but one squadron was kept from it for ceremonial purposes. In 1778 another war broke out between Prussia and Austria, this time over Bavaria. The Bosnian Corps was again replenished to 10 squadrons, mainly with recruits from Ukraine and Poland. In this war, in which there were no major battles, the Bosnians suffered heavy casualties as a result of surprise attacks by the Austrian hussars.

When, by the end of the 15th century, Poland disappeared from the map of Europe (one part was annexed by Russia, another by Austria, and the third by Prussia), Prussia recruited XNUMX Polish squadrons of light horsemen, who also fell into the "Bosnians". But these horsemen were Bosnians in name and costume only.

Alas, adults very often (both before and now!) Behave like little children. They will see a neighbor's toy and begin to whine: "And I have the same one." So in Sweden, which entered into frequent conflicts with Russia over control of the Baltic in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries, military experts decided that their army could not conduct serious operations without the support of light cavalry, especially against an enemy with ten hussar regiments. This means that the Swedes also need hussars. And the Swedes brought them in!

In December 1757, the government signed a contract with Captain Count Frederick Putbuss and Lieutenant Philip Julius Bernhard von Platen, obliging each of them to recruit two hussar squadrons of 100 people. The following year, another contract was signed, this time with Major Baron Georg Gustav Wrangel, on the recruitment of a hussar regiment from ten squadrons with a total strength of 1000 people. It was formed in Rügen and was named the Kungliga Husarregementet (Royal Hussars). Since it was formed in a German-speaking province, the language of official communication and command in it was German, and the Swedish hussars were trained according to the Prussian charter, because how could they get their own!

The famous Prussian Marshal of the Napoleonic Wars Count Blucher (1742-1819) served for some time in the Swedish hussars. Fifteen-year-old Blucher was with his son-in-law in Rügen, and when the Swedish hussars were sent to Pomerania, the young cadet Blucher somehow fell into their number. In 1760 he was taken prisoner by the Prussian hussars from the eighth regiment, who recruited him into their ranks. And here he is, the finger of fate: after serving 49 years, Blucher became his commander at the Battle of Jena in 1806.


Swedish "Yellow Hussar" 1761 Fig. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC - AD1914. L .: Cassell, 1994. P.171

In 1761, Sweden decided that one hussar regiment was not enough for it, and formed a second. The existing regiment was divided into two, each of which consisted of six squadrons with a total strength of 800 people each. The new regiment, commanded by Colonel Putbuss, had a blue uniform and was known as the Blue Hussars, and Wrangel's men were known as the Yellow Hussars; everyone was happy, because blue and yellow are, of course, the Swedish national colors. Mustache was another obligatory part of the uniform. Therefore, beardless and beardless hussars, in particular, such as the same Blücher, were allowed to wear false mustaches.

Now let's move across the ocean and see what kind of cavalry at that time existed on the territory of the North American colonies of Britain, which just at the end of the XNUMXth century waged a war of independence with the mother country.

First of all, it should be noted that until 1745 the British cavalry consisted mainly of dragoons, although during the Jacobite uprising, the Duke of Kingston organized at his own expense a whole regiment modeled on the hussar. The next year it was dismissed, but then the Duke of Cumberland, using the same people, formed a regiment ... "light dragoons". After full service in Flanders, it was disbanded in 1748. In 1755, it was decided that England would have three regiments of guards dragoons and eight regiments of army dragoons. In 1759, Colonel George Augustus Eliot assembled the 15th Light Dragoon Regiment, which consisted of six companies and numbered 400 men. At the Battle of Emsdorf, light dragoons attacked enemy lines three times and captured an entire battalion of 125 French infantry and 168 horses. Then five more such regiments were formed, so this name became common in the British army. Only, unlike other cavalry units, "light dragoons" underwent special equestrian training and learned how to shoot from the saddle. The horses they used were smaller: 154 cm at the withers. The same units ended up in the colonies ...

Interestingly, there, overseas, at the very beginning of the American War of Independence (1775-1783), not all "Americans" opposed the "British". Thus, a group of American loyalists formed the "British Legion" under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Banastre Tarleton. Some of his cavalrymen were recruited from the 16th and 17th Light Dragoon Regiments, the only British cavalry units serving in America at this time. These men were called "Tarleton Light Dragoons" and were organized and equipped to British standards.


Light Dragoon Tarleton, 1780 Fig. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC - AD1914. L .: Cassell, 1994. P.173

America was vast and rugged, and the cavalry, although small in number, was an extremely valuable arm and was constantly used for reconnaissance and ambushes, which made it look like the European hussars. In May 1780, Tarleton and his dragoons covered 170 km in 54 hours and, as a result of a surprise attack on Wexhau near the border with North Carolina, destroyed several companies of Colonel Buford's infantry, who were in a hurry to lift the siege of Charleston. Tarleton also inflicted great damage on the forces of General Gates in Camden and General Sumter in Phishing Creek, for which he was nicknamed the Bloody Tarleton. But at Copens, his riders suffered a crushing defeat. Interestingly, after the end of the war, they regained their characteristic helmet, designed by Tarleton himself. It was officially adopted by the British Light Dragoons and remained in service until the late XNUMXth century.

The experience of the wars of the XNUMXth century has unequivocally shown that the light cavalry of the army is very necessary - both national and consisting of people from different countries, dressed in their national costumes, bright and unusual.

To be continued ...
Author:
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Enemies of cuirassiers of the XNUMXth century
Cuirassiers and cuirasses of the Napoleonic wars
Cuirassiers in Russia: how it all began
Cuirassiers in battles and campaigns
Horse latniks back in service
Cuirassiers in museums
Friends and Enemies of Imperial Cuirassiers
Polish shells, Austrian hussars and Turkish fives
Enemies of the Cuirassiers
With whom the latniks of the emperor Maximilian fought?
“A small discovery in the butt of an arquebus ...”
Horsemen of the Eighty Years War
Horses and saddles of the XVI-XVII centuries
“By people and by horses, not by aer”
Ordonance companies
“It's a miracle if someone is killed with a spear”
Mounted Latniks Sunset
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  1. svp67
    svp67 28 July 2020 04: 55 New
    +9
    To the author, THANKS hi
    Alas, adults very often (both before and now!) Behave like little children. They will see a neighbor's toy and begin to whine: "And I have the same one."
    Alas, but if it were so ... Simply, according to Newton's law, every action causes opposition. And if you, well, just "zadolbali" and "tortured" with their actions the light cavalry of your enemy, that is, you are convinced of their effectiveness, then "why invent a bicycle", take the scheme already worked out by your enemy for training and equipping, and form such troops at home.
    What is left to remember about the lancers and the irregular cavalry, and the overall picture will be completed
    1. kalibr
      28 July 2020 05: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      What is left to remember about the lancers and the irregular cavalry, and the overall picture will be completed

      It will come to them too ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 July 2020 11: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: kalibr
        It will come to them too ...

        We are waiting, with ... with GREAT impatience ... hi
        1. kalibr
          28 July 2020 13: 50 New
          +5
          It even turns out two materials. One about foreign hussars, one about ours by the book of Colonel Manzei ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 28 July 2020 14: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: kalibr
            It even turns out two materials. One about foreign hussars, one about ours by the book of Colonel Manzei ...

            This is of course insanely interesting, but how can you give a comparative description? Still, one kind of cavalry, so much more and the battles encountered ...
            And honestly, they write very little about the lancers. Although this is also light cavalry and the same "cavalier Devitsa" - Nadezhda Durova was a lancer ...
            1. kalibr
              28 July 2020 18: 36 New
              +3
              Quote: svp67
              Nadezhda Durova was a lancer ...

              During the exercises, she twisted a pike over her head, which she really did not like! And she was a lancer because of the high cost of the hussar uniform. Serving as a hussar turned out to be beyond our means.
              1. svp67
                svp67 28 July 2020 18: 45 New
                +4
                Quote: kalibr
                And she was a lancer because of the high cost of the hussar uniform.

                Yes, the uhlan uniform was also quite beautiful ...

                Durova, if I'm not mistaken, served in the Lithuanian regiment ...
                Quote: kalibr
                During the exercises, she twisted a pike over her head, which she really did not like!

                Well, lady ... she should twist the pins.
                Pica, the main "feature" of the Russian lancers, however, if memory does not fail, not all regiments managed to get them, although they were better than Cossack picks ...
                1. kalibr
                  28 July 2020 21: 31 New
                  +3
                  Everything is correct. Alla Begunova has written very well and in detail about the Uhlan regiments in Russia.
  2. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 28 July 2020 07: 57 New
    +6
    Thanks, interesting.
    The existing regiment was divided into two, each of which consisted of six squadrons with a total strength of 800 people each.

    Unsuccessful proposal. You might think that there were 800 snouts in each squadron.
    1. kalibr
      28 July 2020 08: 41 New
      +8
      Yes, indeed ... I had to think about the style.
  3. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 July 2020 09: 09 New
    10
    "That's what I'm looking at ... glued mustache" (c).

    How can all the traditions penetrate. And in the elite units, of course, too.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 28 July 2020 11: 03 New
      +7
      "Why did you shave off your mustache, fool?" (C)
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 28 July 2020 14: 23 New
        +6
        This was the second association.
        But Prince Florizel comes first.
        True, typos, infection, and intervened there.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 28 July 2020 14: 27 New
          +7
          From there:
          "- Your mustache has come off.
          - Thank you ... "
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 28 July 2020 15: 03 New
            +6
            "They call me a mustache youth
            That's right for me
            That's right, it doesn't matter.
            But they don't call it a coward
            A long time ago
            A long time ago
            Once upon a time "(since)

            It is good that N. Durova in the guise of L. Golubkina did not have to attach a mustache.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 28 July 2020 15: 14 New
              +6
              It is good that N. Durova in the guise of L. Golubkina did not have to attach a mustache.

              That would be very funny! laughing
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 28 July 2020 17: 19 New
                +4
                As if in childhood the mustache was painted on to the pictures.

                However, I think they were sorry for the books.
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 29 July 2020 08: 19 New
                  +6
                  However, I think they were sorry for the books.

                  hi In our school, textbooks were checked when they were returned to the library. "Artists" then had a pale appearance and red "notes" in the causal place from their fathers.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 July 2020 11: 35 New
      +9
      Quote: Korsar4
      "That's what I'm looking at ... glued mustache" (c).
      How can all the traditions penetrate. And in the elite units, of course, too.


      Yeah, "moose" spirit to prescribe and paint the grass for the arrival of the "Moscow General"!
      I could not resist scolding!
      Hello everyone, thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich, we are waiting for a continuation about Ulan, irregulars and carabinieri !!!
      And our hussars have not yet been fully disclosed!
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 12: 21 New
        +8
        Hello everyone, thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich, we are waiting for a continuation about Ulan, irregulars and carabinieri !!!

        At the same time, about the Bashkirs and Kalmyks in the Russian Army! Generally a separate topic. soldier
        Interesting fact. In 1854, a squadron of impudent French arrived in the Gulf of Finland. The commander, Admiral Napier, boasted that he would have breakfast in Kronstadt, and lunch in St. Petersburg. The squadron buried itself in the forts of Kronstadt and minefields, and behind these buns the Baltic Fleet was also lined up ... belay In general, the entire campaign "allies" languidly trampled on the spot, because in the direction of Kronstadt they were afraid to even fart, and then out of nothing to do they took Bomarzund - a fortress on the Aland Islands. And gone home. laughing
        So, Tyutchev then wrote the following (I’m from memory), they say: The Times is spreading fables that the tsar fled from St. Petersburg, but 40 thousand Kalmyks and Bashkirs were called in to defend the city. " These warriors had already become household names by that time! drinks
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 29 July 2020 15: 22 New
          +1
          Apparently the tsar fled to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, so the united Anglo-French squadron fought with the landing and bombing ...
          Therefore, Commander Admiral Price shot himself in grief and was buried in the place where the "Wasp's Nest" is now located! wink
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 33 New
            +3
            Price shot himself in grief

            aha, and Fevrier Depuinte died of grief. laughing
            In 1855, they did return to the Baltic, and found that everything had become even more brutal. Ours set up even larger minefields, hammered piles and chopped up ryazh. Additional batteries and redoubts were delivered - both on the water and on the coast - in Fox Nose and in Oranienbaum. The squadron of "allies" came under the command of Admiral Dondas. When we saw him, he made a sad face, chatted for another summer opposite Kronstadt, and took the ships away. More invaders selfish avengers did not come to the Baltic.
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 29 July 2020 15: 46 New
              +2
              Last Sunday, on the day of the Navy, we were at Nikolskaya Sopka, where the main direction of the assault of the amphibious assault was. The most inconvenient place for the assault was chosen, the left flank and the right - a flat scythe, but there is an art battery, there is also a battery on the hill ...
              In the evening we flew to the north coast. In general, there is no fish in Kamchatka this summer, and don't expect caviar ... am
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 54 New
                +2
                Last Sunday, on the day of the Navy, we were at Nikolskaya Sopka, where the main direction of the assault of the amphibious assault was.

                and our fleet is lined up on the Neva. Everyone is different. and Soviet ships, and the latest. An underwater submarine even entered the bay. Like, from "Ash". drinks
                In general, there is no fish in Kamchatka this summer, and don't expect caviar ...

                uh, trouble, trouble! recourse I here on Sunday walked through the woods - there are no chanterelles, all the thieving grandmothers have raked out, now they are selling! request
                1. Lynx2000
                  Lynx2000 29 July 2020 16: 38 New
                  +1
                  I, of course, "a land rat - boots", but friends from PDSS "Dolphins" call for the holidays, we go to hand-to-hand fighting together.
                  I would now give half my life for a hike for chanterelles, russula, boletus and milk mushrooms.
                  My wife has been waiting for half a year when I return to Siberia.
                  By the way, on the Commander Islands, mushrooms are not wormy, they are not there.
                  Last year, at the VDNKh exhibition, I saw two traders of these mushrooms (milk mushroom, white mushroom).
                  Since I am the "head of the port office", I looked at the parade.
                  I remember Avachinskaya lip,
                  Nikolskaya Sopka, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, "defile" of small rocket ships, then inspection of the KFOR (training of the marines), one underwater nuclear missile cruiser ... Then "for health", a helicopter, flight ... 3 hours ..., arrival, sleep.
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 28 July 2020 14: 24 New
        +5
        A lot when the essence of the ritual degenerates.
        I do not agree with Confucius in everything.

        So your joke is also very serious.
  4. Catfish
    Catfish 28 July 2020 10: 24 New
    +9
    Alas, adults very often (both before and now!) Behave like little children. They will see a neighbor's toy and begin to whine: "And I have the same one."

    I immediately remembered Valery Ryzhov's article "Non-French Zouaves" about how, with the "light hand" of the Foreign Legion, purely national units of the Zouaves scattered almost all over the world and among the armies that had nothing to do with the wars in Africa.
    Friends, hello everyone, and thanks to Vyacheslav! hi drinks
    1. kalibr
      28 July 2020 10: 54 New
      +7
      On the way, on the way, the day of fun is over, it's time to hike.
      Aim at the chest, little zuav, shout "Hurray!"
      Believing in miracles for many days, Susanna is waiting.
      She has blue eyes and a red mouth.
      The African cavalry of the French will also be ... and the Arab ... worth it!
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 16: 20 New
        +6
        Believing in miracles for many days, Susanna is waiting.
        She has blue eyes and a red mouth.

        I just remembered ... what During WWI, the Germans issued propaganda posters urging blacks and other Africans not to enlist in the French army.
    2. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 11: 17 New
      +8
      Friends, hello everyone, and thanks to Vyacheslav!

      I will join on both points! drinks
      Manuel Crommenaker. Attack of the Swedish drabants

      Fortunately, artists are more credible than filmmakers. The title picture shows an important element that is almost completely absent in films (at least in Soviet ones) - a halberd in the hands of a sergeant. Halberds with varying success, appearing and then disappearing, lived in the Russian army throughout the 18th century. By the end of the century, they were already more reminiscent of partisans.
      The last figure who was fond of halberds was Pal Petrovich. He handed them out to the NCOs, which weakened the firepower of the regiment by a hundred barrels. Here is a non-commissioned officer of the Preobrazhensky regiment in front of Austerlitz.

      It seems that the last battle where halberds were still used by our troops was the battle of Friedland. Then they were quietly removed from the army. As well as canceled the braids from the soldiers. hi
      Glory to these reenactors! Everything is clear! good
      1. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 28 July 2020 12: 55 New
        +7
        After all, they are espantons, not halberds.
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 13: 13 New
          +7
          After all, they are espantons, not halberds.

          Nope! And here, dear Nikita, I disagree with you. drinks As someone who personally photographed the collection you cited last year (Anton is a witness!), I subscribe - you just brought the officers' espontons. good Moreover, some of them bear the monograms of Pavel Petrovich. hi But what I gave in the previous comment is a non-commissioned officer's halberd. I could only find a picture offhand like this:

          Musketeer non-commissioned officers of the Ukrainian inspection 1802-1803
          That is, they differed precisely in the shape of the blade. Although what at the end of the 18th century was called the halberd, it gravitated more towards the protazan.
          No offense! Nice to communicate with you! drinks
          Here, for comparison, the form of the army of Peter the Great. The officer has a protazan, the non-commissioner has a halberd.

          It's just that from the middle of the century, instead of a protazan, an esponton was used, and the halberd changed its appearance!
          1. Icelord
            Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 39 New
            +1
            No, Pal Petrovich was exactly what the protazans gave
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 3 August 2020 11: 42 New
              0
              No, Pal Petrovich was exactly what the protazans gave

              Igor, halberds for the non-combatants. For officers - espontons. drinks
  5. Alexander Trebuntsev
    Alexander Trebuntsev 28 July 2020 10: 54 New
    +4
    "... also known as" black hussars "(Totenkopf) ..." Black in German is Schwarz, and toten is dead.
    1. Operator
      Operator 28 July 2020 13: 23 New
      -7
      In Penza, the German language is not understood: until they read it in English comics for children of retirement age, they will not recognize it laughing
    2. kalibr
      28 July 2020 13: 53 New
      +3
      Their uniforms were black ... About them will also be ahead.
    3. Icelord
      Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 37 New
      0
      And yet, the hussars of the dead head were called black hussars.
  6. Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 28 July 2020 11: 27 New
    12
    "Tu usar ki not pa morte but entant en, et en jean futre" - so said Antoine Charles Louis de Lassalle, the "hussar general" of Napoleon's army. Freely translated from the language of love into our native language, it sounds like "Any hussar who has not died by the age of thirty is nothing." At the same time, Lassalle himself exceeded the period established by him by four years and died thirty-four years of age. smile
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 28 July 2020 11: 52 New
      +8
      "Say a word about poor hussar ..."
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 29 July 2020 08: 49 New
        +8
        Uncle Kostya hi

        “And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch, very few people can do it "(C), everyone knows the author laughing


        So that it does not become boring and does not stick together lol



        need to be changed periodically, without waiting for the "crossing". repeat

        1. Catfish
          Catfish 29 July 2020 10: 00 New
          +4
          Lyosha, hello! hi
          Here you explain to me why only her ass, the most vulnerable part of her body, is covered with chain mail? laughing
          I offer several options for bronlifs to choose from. wassat



          The last option is a real Indian armored vehicle. good
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 11: 04 New
            +3
            The last option is a real Indian armored vehicle.

            There is a legend in Japan that when Empress Jingu was going to campaign in Korea, she was pregnant, and the craftsmen made her special armor - taking into account her position! hi
            by the way, the second device is not practical in the cold. Will stick, sir! request
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              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 12: 00 New
                +5
                Anything "sticks" to such tits.

                - And he painted a naked woman with lipstick on the mirror! lol (film "Gentlemen of Fortune") drinks
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 29 July 2020 12: 25 New
                  +4
                  Women are different, on mirrors too.
                  There are also very beautiful ones. smile
              2. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 12: 22 New
                +3
                To such tits

                Uncle Kostya, as a weapon expert, tell me better about the blunderbuss. drinks Mysterious weapon. I mean, I know that he was in service with the cavalry, but what part of it and what types of cavalry were armed with it? what
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 29 July 2020 12: 56 New
                  +3

                  French blunderbuss of the early XNUMXth century
                  It was a blunderbuss - a boarding pistol, also known under the names of trombone, tromblon, trabuco, shot squeak, buckshot gun. Actually, in the form of a pistol, weapons began to be produced only at the end of the XNUMXth century, but the name was used from the middle of the XNUMXth century. So here the term pistol acted in the old, original meaning of a small, shortened gun.

                  The difference between a trombone and a musket is a short barrel and a caliber that exceeds the caliber of the charge. That is, it was not originally intended for bullet shooting. It was a melee weapon, a dump - they loaded blunderbuss exclusively with buckshot.
                  The cavalry was also armed with them, but initially it was a naval "abode-pirate" weapon.
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 13: 06 New
                    +4
                    but initially it was a naval "abode-pirate" weapon.

                    there! Yes! good
                    The cavalry was also armed with them

                    I wonder who, and in what percentage!
                    But, in essence, we have an "assault shotgun". The Americans still use shotguns in the army, it seems. drinks
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 29 July 2020 13: 23 New
                      +4
                      But, in essence, we have an "assault shotgun".

                      Rather, a melee weapon for the cavalry, but otherwise they acted on the principle of "shot and threw", and he grabbed a saber, broadsword, or whatever was at hand.
                      The Americans still use shotguns in the army, it seems.

                      Yes, they classify it as a combat, or assault shotgun for operations in cramped conditions. It turns out to be very effective.

                      Winchester Model 1897 "Trench rifle" M1917 with bayonet.
                      The combat shotgun traces its history back to the blunderbuss.
                      1. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 13: 31 New
                        +3
                        Yes, they classify it as a combat, or assault shotgun for operations in cramped conditions. It turns out to be very effective.

                        and the bayonet, like, they began to cling to him during the First World War?
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 29 July 2020 13: 35 New
                        +3
                        Kohl, I already wrote about this. smile

                        Winchester Model 1897 "Trench rifle" M1917 with bayonet.
                      3. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 13: 43 New
                        +3
                        Kohl, I already wrote about this.

                        Forgive me, I didn't even notice the elephant ... recourse
                        I, nevertheless, wonder which of the cavalrymen was armed with them. I read somewhere that they were used by the hussars. That's just how much the regiment was supposed to ...
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 29 July 2020 13: 55 New
                        +3
                        I don’t know this, write to Vic Nick, no one will answer better than him. drinks
                      5. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 16 New
                        +3
                        I do not know this

                        an interesting photo of the form of the times of Potemkin. Apparently a cavalryman. Suvorov Museum, St. Petersburg.
                      6. Lexus
                        Lexus 29 July 2020 16: 51 New
                        +6
                        Pirivet!

                        Stirlitz went to the forest for mushrooms. He walked a little forward - there were no mushrooms, came back - there were no mushrooms again.
                        - Yes .., apparently not the season, - thought Stirlitz and shook off the snow from his boots.

                        Apparently a cavalryman.

                        No, damn it, infantryman. lol Yeah. Straight to the top of his head - with a carbine, pistol, broadsword and in a short uniform. wassat


                        Here is a real infantryman. Just add a bayonet gun. tongue
                      7. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 10: 16 New
                        +2
                        Here is a real infantryman. Just add a bayonet gun.

                        Hi! drinks you're right. Only the feeling that your infantryman is from the time of Paul. what
                      8. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 13: 14 New
                        +4
                        Only the feeling that your infantryman is from the time of Paul. what

                        Hello! drinks Passed a vigilance test. Yes sir! good
                      9. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 14: 04 New
                        +2
                        Hi! drinks Passed vigilance test. Yes sir! good

                        Lesh, I said from memory. In February, I was lucky to be at the exhibition in Gatchina, there were just different uniforms. Incl. the uniform of the emperor himself with the imprint of the Order of John of Jerusalem imprinted on it.
                      10. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 14: 18 New
                        +5
                        Gatchina is a wonderful city! I was there in 1995. drinks
                      11. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 14: 27 New
                        +2
                        Gatchina is a wonderful city! I was there in 1995.

                        Beautiful! drinks I will add - just as Gatchina should be grateful to Pavel for turning into a city, so Oranienbaum-Lomonosov should first thank Peter III for this, and then the Officer Rifle School. soldier
                        In Gatchina, this winter, it was surprising that there were no our non-brothers from the Middle Kingdom. I mean, not a single Chinese! good
                      12. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 14: 34 New
                        +5
                        In Gatchina, this winter, it was surprising that there were no our non-brothers from the Middle Kingdom.

                        Duc, they were already "screwed up" then. what

                        Fragment from the movie "Brother-2" (2000)
                      13. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 14: 46 New
                        +2
                        Duc, they were already "screwed up" then.

                        well yes. But at the exhibition I was able to calmly familiarize myself with the form of that time. The photo selection is large, but I have not analyzed it yet. recourse
                        But then we were able with you and our friends to discuss the "order of the name of the lemur-sifaki" on the chest of Alexander from the series "Napoleon". drinks

                        You brought the uniform of Pavlovian time. There were Prussians hanging nearby. They say, they say, "Pavel dressed in short uniforms." So the Prussians were even shorter in folds! hi
                      14. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 14: 59 New
                        +4
                        In St. Petersburg, I suppose, already local "squinting" in excess, because the "deficit of citrus fruits" in Gatchina immediately caught my eye. wassat drinks
                      15. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 15: 06 New
                        +2
                        In St. Petersburg, I suppose, already local "squinting" in excess, because the "deficit of citrus fruits" in Gatchina immediately caught my eye.

                        In Peterhof and in Pushkin - just a bum. negative If you are a "Russian savage", and without a group, you will end up in the palaces in general, because the murmuring inhabitants of the Celestial Empire are driven at a gallop in droves. fellow business! Well, of course, I talked about the non-quarantine times.
                      16. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 15: 23 New
                        +3
                        galloping in droves

                        Repeatedly filtering hard coins from them. That’s why he and the elder, that even from cockroaches and termites, they shake nishtyaks to the maximum. fellow
                      17. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 15: 27 New
                        +2
                        Repeatedly filtering hard coins from them. That’s why he and the elder, that even from cockroaches and termites, they shake nishtyaks to the maximum.

                        You know, I like palaces and museums because you can buy good scientific and historical literature on them and other objects there. I bought a book in Gatchina. Naturally not very cheap ... hi
                      18. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 15: 30 New
                        +3
                        A truly worthy resident of the cultural capital, from which the cattle barbarians, fortunately, migrated to another. good
                      19. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 16: 00 New
                        +3
                        A truly worthy resident of the cultural capital, from which the cattle barbarians, fortunately, migrated to another.

                        I have nothing to do with these barbarians, Lesh. They have been living on another planet for a long time, like in the movie "Kin-dza-dza"stop and books - yes, I do. If the topic is in tune with the interests. Here, you know, some on the forum are excited - "here, there - the article is not for VO!" But I am pleased to read not about cannon tanks, and not about who and how spoiled the Russian superethnos, but about clothes, philosophy, interesting personalities and hitherto unfamiliar things! Why not? drinks but militarism .. well it! drinks
                      20. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 16: 03 New
                        +5
                        Even being a militarist, I understand you perfectly. drinks
                      21. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 16: 05 New
                        +3
                        Even being a militarist, I understand you perfectly.

                        and I have long ago chosen a credo for myself bugger pacifist. request I sit in a quiet sandbox at Ryzhov's or Shpakovsky's, chatting about everything with those who I like, I don't climb to stubborn dunks, I don't swear with anyone ... I'm fixing the Primus .. And our compliments to you all! drinks
                      22. Lexus
                        Lexus 30 July 2020 16: 14 New
                        +4
                        credo bugger

                        Just the same "these" themselves here stick to everyone and even in the sandbox strive to make shit and spoil the air. What can you do - "professional" incontinence.lol Mutually respectable! drinks
                      23. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 17: 11 New
                        +1
                        Mutually respectable!

                        Will live! drinks
                    2. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2020 16: 47 New
                      +2
                      Hello friends! Here you can Nikolay beautifully minted the idea! This is me, actually, about the * sandbox *! laughing I envy * calm presentation *! good
                    3. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 17: 05 New
                      +2
                      This is me, actually, about the * sandbox *! laughing I envy * calmness of presentation *! good

                      Come on, Sergei, they've embarrassed me ... that's me, philosophically and relaxed picking my nose, and at the same time humming Severyanin lasciviously, blurted out ... winked
                      And so I am kind Carlson with a glass! drinks Not at all a vulgar picture! Not once at all! No specifics!

                      Oh, what would I do without you all! drinks Thank you all! Really! How in the good old days we can talk about everything! drinks
  7. Icelord
    Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 51 New
    0
    No, this is not a carbine, this is a blunderbuss
  8. Icelord
    Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 46 New
    0
    The cavalry guard is similar, but rather a personal regiment of Potemkin or Orlov
  9. Icelord
    Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 47 New
    0
    You have to dig. Quarantine interferes
  10. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 29 July 2020 14: 03 New
    +3
    Winchester Model 1897 "Trench rifle" M1917 with bayonet.
    The bayonet on the M1917 was overkill. And so, yes, the legendary "trench broom"!
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 29 July 2020 12: 27 New
    +4
    Quote: Sea Cat
    The last option is a real Indian armored man

    Moreover, as far as I remember, he is male.
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +4
      Moreover, as far as I remember, he is male.

      Sergey, is this to shock the enemy? wink To him a beard, a vest, and a zebra riding! fellow and a striped wand to all enemies on the bastard! drinks
      1. Mihaylov
        Mihaylov 29 July 2020 12: 47 New
        +4
        Quote: Pan Kohanku
        To him a beard, a vest, and a zebra riding!

        Nikolay, a beard! - this is possible, especially after the barbeshop, the very thing is to frighten enemies. Hindus - great experts in intimidation were:

        But zebras, sori, no, there are war elephants:
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 12: 49 New
          +4
          But zebras, sori, no, there are war elephants:

          The brutal bearded man in the armored car looked shocking laughing Have you painted elephants? wink
          Song and Dance Ensemble of the Indian Army, according to Vasya Lozhkin:
          1. Mihaylov
            Mihaylov 29 July 2020 12: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: Pan Kohanku
            Song and Dance Ensemble of the Indian Army, according to Vasya Lozhkin:

            But Vasya Lozhkin of the fact that in the center is clearly copied from this, one face:
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 13: 04 New
              +4
              But Vasya Lozhkin of the fact that in the center is clearly copied from this, one face:

              and James Cameron was obviously sculpting a terminator with him ... belay I'm wondering how functional the trick data is ... wassat
              1. Mihaylov
                Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: Pan Kohanku
                I'm wondering how functional the trick data is ...

                Many copies were broken in such discussions, more than saris in all antiquity ...
                And about this particular photo, remember on some forum I read that this is an executioner in reality
              2. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 17 New
                +3
                And about this particular photo, remember on some forum I read that this is an executioner in reality

                aha, but it is studded with thorns so that the grateful relatives of the executed do not accidentally break for souvenirs! laughing
              3. Mihaylov
                Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 20 New
                +3
                aha, but it is studded with thorns so that the grateful relatives of the executed do not accidentally break for souvenirs!

                It is immediately clear who came to you, and before the "procedure" everyone sings and dances .... and after too
              4. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 22 New
                +3
                It is immediately clear who came to you, and before the "procedure" everyone sings and dances .... and after too

                Pyramid Head? belay there you will move your horses from such a sight. fellow

                and before the "procedure" everyone sings and dances .... and after too

                Indian special forces even free hostages with songs and dances!
              5. Lexus
                Lexus 29 July 2020 17: 02 New
                +3
                Pyramid Head?

                Damn stylish and colorful character from "Silent Hill". good

                Indian special forces even free hostages with songs and dances!

                Then they sing and dance when they are cremated, because it was not possible to free them. fellow
        2. Icelord
          Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 54 New
          0
          Yeah, this is the executioner. So it's functional. Fearfully
  • Catfish
    Catfish 29 July 2020 13: 27 New
    +5
    Changing of the Guard. In horror, everyone screams KAPAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wassat
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 13: 37 New
      +3
      Changing of the Guard. Everyone screams in horror KAPAUL!

      Jennifer Lopez, for an hour, didn't they learn to swing legs? belay
      although the Greeks are also amusing.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 29 July 2020 13: 53 New
        +3
        To be honest, the Greeks are more like clowns in their slippers and underpants. And the Indians are, yes, real warriors! wassat
        Well, and Jennifer for a "snack". (True, only one of the legs is lifted, the right one) drinks
      2. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 02 New
        +2
        Greeks look more like clowns in their slippers and underpants

        Greek Greeks (not to be confused with Russian ones) in life resemble epic professional lazy people. laughing
    2. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      although the Greeks are also amusing.

      And at this time, the descendants of the harsh hoplites:
    3. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 19 New
      +3
      Meanwhile, the descendants of the harsh hoplites

      and at home he wears stockings with garters. In the mesh. yes and, like Volochkova, she sits on the twine from time to time.
    4. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      like Volochkova, she sits on the twine from time to time.

      Army service is hard ... in Greece wassat
    5. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 28 New
      +3
      Army service is hard ... in Greece

      yes they will not break. Twice in Zakynthos we went to the military museum - closed, sir! Not the season, you see. request

      Here, on a hill, the fort of Zakynthos - Bohali. The question is that they are allowed there from 8 to .. 14, EMNIP. And then - euribadi dance nau! fellow
    6. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      yes they will not break.

      There is such a good Greek expression: "whitefish-whitefish", I do not know how it literally translates, something like "slowly, slowly", but the meaning is like: work is not a wolf, it will not run away into the forest
    7. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 14: 49 New
      +3
      There is such a good Greek expression: "whitefish-whitefish", I do not know how it literally translates, something like "slowly, slowly", but the meaning is like: work is not a wolf, it will not run away into the forest

      There is! I heard about him, but forgot, and you reminded me of him! good But in the evening I can tell everyone - "KalispEra!" drinks
      By the way, Sergei, in Kronstadt opposite the Bastion cinema they started selling ... gyros! On Saturday I saw the announcement. I can't vouch for the taste and appearance, did not fit, did not try. However - the memory of Greece! drinks But where in St. Petersburg to find a normal "ouzo"? ... what
    8. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 29 July 2020 15: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      But where in St. Petersburg to find a normal "ouzo"? ...

      In Metro I saw, and not so long ago
    9. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 15 New
      +2
      In Metro I saw, and not so long ago

      understood, copied, remembered. Thank! good
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: Pan Kohanku
    Twice in Zakynthos we went to the military museum - closed

    By the way, Nikolay, if you happen to be in Crete, there a few years ago an army museum was opened near Rethymno, not very large, but in principle, the exposition is not bad, mainly WWI, WWII and some old weapons too:



  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 29 July 2020 14: 56 New
    +3
    army museum,



  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 18 New
    +3
    I bow! The cannon on the left in the second photo looks a lot like our Putilovka three-inch gun, but it looks like it's not. what
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 29 July 2020 15: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Pan Kohanku
    The cannon on the left in the second photo looks a lot like our Putilovka three-inch gun, but it seems like it's not

    Unfortunately, I did not take a picture of the plate for her.
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 29 July 2020 17: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: Pan Kohanku
    The cannon on the left in the second photo looks too much like our Putilovka three-inch gun,

    Nikolay, it looks like this is a 75-mm Krupp field gun mod. 1903, and on the right is a green 25-pound British howitzer cannon. Unless, of course, I identified everything correctly.
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 30 July 2020 10: 18 New
    +1
    Unless, of course, I identified everything correctly.

    Yes, in my opinion, everything is correct! drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 29 July 2020 17: 50 New
    +2
    Kohl, it's not her, but it really looks the same.
    And ours - here it is.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 29 July 2020 17: 08 New
    +7
    Everyone screams in horror KAPAUL

    Uncle Kostya, again carelessness. laughing They shout "KaknUl !!!!!!!!" For the height of treachery is to use weapons, especially chemical weapons, without warning. fellow
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 29 July 2020 17: 52 New
      +2
      I don’t know foreign languages, but in chemistry I always had a threefold, and then with a stretch. request
  • Icelord
    Icelord 2 August 2020 14: 58 New
    0
    No, that's the Indo-Pakistani border in Punjab. Black Pakistani border guard, green Indian
    1. Icelord
      Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 00 New
      0
      Incidentally, a white stripe border. Peacocks however))
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 2 August 2020 15: 45 New
      +1
      Yes, in the course everyone saw this video.
    3. Icelord
      Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 47 New
      0
      Well, that's not the current Indians are)))
    4. Icelord
      Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 49 New
      0
      And I'm not sure that everyone was watching, although it's worth it, I couldn't imagine such a thing in 20 years of service. Kryssotishsha
  • Lexus
    Lexus 29 July 2020 16: 31 New
    +5
    Here you explain to me why only her ass, the most vulnerable part of her body, is covered with chain mail?

    This breakthrough spreadsheet scheme. In the marking - "abdel fattah ass-sisi"- in fact, the" areas "covered with protective modules are indicated (you missed the top one, because the system for shooting traps operating in the optical range was used). The TTZ took into account the wishes of the" customer "and categorically abandoned the task of ensuring serious resistance, on the contrary , for the sake of ease of access to the "controls, filler necks and other technological openings." All "hoods", by the way, are quick-detachable, the "service process" of components and assemblies is maximally simplified and possible according to an accelerated scheme. The use of some additional " tools "are not required, but allowed. Protection class - 0B, protivamatsionny, penetration from the" trunk "is guaranteed from any angle. Here! And your" armored personnel "is the dream of locksmiths," bugbears "and BDSM people. Personally, I would not like "holy of holies" and personal "treasury" with a battering gun to storm or all the time allotted for a special operation with a crowbar to groan. laughing wassat
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 29 July 2020 18: 09 New
      +2
      Well, Lyosha, you have a talent for writing all kinds of instructions. Until you learn this, you will not want to do anything. laughing
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 30 July 2020 00: 03 New
        +6
        "Statutes, Precepts and Regulations are written in blood." [Quote supplemented by me] soldier
        And I, I hope, not so boring, I write from the bottom of my heart and often haha. So, if someone needs to cheer up, it's for me. You're welcome! wink
        A little below Anton's accomplice in harem affairs, he was spiked, but he had escaped earlier. bully
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 30 July 2020 13: 23 New
          +2
          "Statutes, Precepts and Regulations are written in blood."

          Poor virgins! crying love laughing
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 30 July 2020 14: 15 New
            +4
            Poor virgins!

            In the Army, severe men are so "burned" that virgins never dreamed of. bully
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 30 July 2020 15: 33 New
              +2
              Well, I don't know, I remember the army mostly with pleasure. soldier
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 30 July 2020 15: 35 New
                +4
                So it was Soviet, and not the current "funny". soldier
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 30 July 2020 15: 36 New
                +2
                So it was not the fireman who commanded the SA at that time.
              3. Lexus
                Lexus 30 July 2020 15: 41 New
                +3
                Moreover, his regalia, as if, at least, the Sun single-handedly "localized", and extinguished a couple of distant Stars to a heap. Also exclusively myself.fellowdrinks
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 29 July 2020 14: 05 New
    +2
    Colleague! Surprised! Uncover the secret, what are these North American Amazons in negligee ?!)))
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 29 July 2020 17: 16 New
      +7
      T.N. a group of "support" troops. 3rd US Infantry Division, 1933, Hawaii. soldier
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 29 July 2020 17: 36 New
        +1
        Thank you)))
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 30 July 2020 00: 05 New
          +4
          Wow - and then a minus slapped. "Harsh" you have "fans". request
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 12: 02 New
    10
    Freely translated from the language of love into our native language, it sounds like "Any hussar who has not died by the age of thirty is nothing."

    It was dawning. Grenier lined up the squadrons:
    - Who will remain alive today is not a hussar, but a smelly one ... At a trot - at a gallop, march-march-march!

    (VS Pikul, "To each his own." Censored meant the contents of the cesspool).
    Apparently, Valentin Savvich stole this phrase from Lassalle!
    As far as I understand, among the French (and not only) hussars of the Napoleonic times there was a fashion to grow braids on the sides. By the way, in the film "Vasilisa" a French figure shows just such a way of braiding. drinks
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 28 July 2020 13: 06 New
      +8
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      Apparently, Valentin Savvich stole this phrase from Lassalle!

      To be honest, I was sure, by a sinful deed, that it belonged to Blucher. Ok, I checked it before writing a comment. Although in German, I think it would have sounded enchanting! laughing
    2. arturpraetor
      arturpraetor 28 July 2020 13: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      As far as I understand, among the French (and not only) hussars of the Napoleonic times there was a fashion to grow braids on the sides.

      They started dating even earlier. The earliest mention that I have seen is the army of Frederick the Great. And they could have appeared even earlier.
    3. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 28 July 2020 14: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      It was dawning. Grenier lined up the squadrons:
      - Who will remain alive today is not a hussar, but a smelly one ... At a trot - at a gallop, march-march-march!

      And how was Murat's there? Something like "Let's attack in the area of ​​my back - tsy .." Who knows French, enlighten pliz ...
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 18: 40 New
        +3
        Who knows French, educate pliz ...

        Viktor Nikolaevich (Undecim) can tell exactly, but today he was carried away by clarifying the immutable truths with Mikhail. wink drinks
        1. Mihaylov
          Mihaylov 28 July 2020 18: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: Pan Kohanku
          Who knows French, educate pliz ...

          Viktor Nikolaevich (Undecim) can tell exactly, but today he was carried away by clarifying the immutable truths with Mikhail. wink drinks

          It seems it was at the Battle of Linyi, but I could be wrong
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 18: 48 New
            +4
            It seems it was at the Battle of Linyi, but I could be wrong

            Under Linyi, Murat's fanfaron did not participate. request
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 July 2020 15: 29 New
      +5
      Say a word about drink satom gusar soldier
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 15: 58 New
        +6
        Say a word about drink satom gusar

        Albert, no offense! drinks during the Kosciuszko uprising, the "Jewish Regiment of Light Cavalry" was formed from the Jews of Warsaw, which fought on the side of the Poles.

        They fought bravely. Almost everyone died during the storming of Prague. hi Here is such a ... "national part" in the Polish army! drinks
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 28 July 2020 16: 32 New
          +4
          Why resentment? ))
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 16: 35 New
            +5
            Why resentment? ))

            so I think - there is nothing! drinks
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 28 July 2020 16: 38 New
              +5
              By the way, I didn't know, thanks! Where people put their energy instead of going to Palestine and establishing new settlements ... fought for the national interests of Poland against the imperial interests of Russia wassat
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 17: 36 New
                +5
                By the way, I didn't know, thanks!

                Yes, I myself accidentally remembered.
                fought for the national interests of Poland against the imperial interests of Russia

                Well, as far as I understand about the late gentry, it was not fashionable to do business there. request The nobleman's business was to wave his saber, and to pour out ambition on those around him. laughing Therefore, as far as I can imagine, the magnates had quite a business relationship with the Jewish diaspora - they were tenants and factor-managers. drinks And the pan himself - panov! fellow or a freak like the famous Kohanku ... laughing Correct if something is wrong blurted out. drinks
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 28 July 2020 17: 51 New
                  +6
                  Everything is absolutely true, only the main part of the Jewish managers was cut out by Khmelnitsky)). Together with hundreds of thousands of household members and representatives of other professions - for my people, he ranks second in drinking Jews after Aloizych)))
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 17: 58 New
                    +7
                    only the main part of the Jewish managers was cut out by Khmelnytsky

                    it is yes. On the territory controlled by Khmelnitsky comrades. Gogol described this ...
                    In Warsaw and other Nesvizh with Mirami, the institution of factoring probably remained until the annexation of these questionable regions to Russia. ("Doubtful" - because of the hatred of the Poles towards the Russians). hi
                    In general, all sorts of Radziwills and others like them are an interesting phenomenon. On the one hand, a lot of money, even more quirks, on the other - eternal courts of law with Jews who lent them, etc. laughing
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 28 July 2020 18: 12 New
                      +5
                      Giving money at interest is not an easy task - until you get it, all the veins will be pulled from you laughing
                    2. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 18: 32 New
                      +6
                      Giving money at interest is not an easy task - until you get it, all the veins will be pulled from you

                      Yes! laughing it seems that this behavior of the "Panovs" was Poland's main misfortune ... Although each of the magnates could easily assemble his own army. In principle, the Time of Troubles (I'm talking about False Dmitry) began as a private enterprise ...
                      From Wikipedia, about the beginning of the "Time of Troubles":
                      Three years, from 1601 to 1603, were lean, even in the summer months frosts did not stop, and in September it was snowing [4]. According to some assumptions [5], the reason for this was the eruption of the volcano Huaynaputina in Peru on February 19, 1600 [6] and the volcanic winter that followed. A terrible famine broke out, the victims of which were up to half a million people [7]. The masses of the people flocked to Moscow, where the government distributed bread and money to those in need.

                      However, how it all started with the volcano ... belay Nature, sir! hi
                      Хотите - проверьте. Подглава "Начало Смуты": https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8F#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%82%D1%8B
                    3. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 28 July 2020 18: 53 New
                      +4
                      Here it is, globalization))) Volcano in Peru - poor harvest in Poland
                    4. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 00: 12 New
                      +4
                      Here it is, globalization))) Volcano in Peru - poor harvest in Poland

                      Yeah, the next volcanoes poured out after three hundred years, Huayna-Lenin and Huayna-Trotsky. There was no shortage of bread in Petrograd, and the revolution began. wink
                    5. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 July 2020 00: 16 New
                      +3
                      It happened because of the Wayne Romans am drinks
                    6. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 00: 28 New
                      +6
                      It happened because of the Wayne Romans

                      this bearded rosy gingerbread resembles an anecdote about a deaf-mute in a pharmacy when buying condoms, "not sure - don't play". stop And if you didn't have one place, you didn't have to get involved in the First World War, due to the lack of cannons, machine guns, shells, cartridges covering theater of war with the bodies of yesterday's peasants. request Since you and your merry friends-relatives have been doing anything other than preparing for war and the economy in general ... It's your own fault, father! negative
                    7. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 July 2020 00: 39 New
                      +3
                      I completely agree with your assessment of events! With respect hi
                    8. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 10: 18 New
                      +5
                      I completely agree with your assessment of events!

                      Good morning! drinks There is still nothing to read on the site, it remains to discuss our Vyacheslav Olegovich. wink
                      The experience of the wars of the XNUMXth century has unequivocally shown that the light cavalry of the army is very necessary - both national and consisting of people from different countries, dressed in their national costumes, bright and unusual.

                      Full-fledged lancers in our country were created by Konstantin Pavlovich. A number of his portraits in the form of a lancer have survived.soldier

                      He was generally an extraordinary person. On the night of parricide, learning that Alexander would become monarch, he muttered something like: "Ew, thank God I never had the courage to rule."... As life later showed, he absolutely did not want to rule.
                      By the way, Konstantin took part in the Italian and Swiss campaigns of Suvorov! drinks
                      The illegitimate son of the Tsarevich, Pavel Konstantinovich Alexandrov, built himself the Alexandrovka estate in Strelna. This is how her palace looks like, now the administration of Strelna is in it. drinks There is a craving of Pavlovian blood for locks!
                    9. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 July 2020 15: 15 New
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                      Modestly))
                    10. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 17 New
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                      Modestly

                      well, he was a bastard, not a corresponding member of the imperial family. Then the princes of Lvov lived there. But close to the city! And the Konstantinovsky Palace is nearby, the estate of the Orlov counts was also nearby.
                    11. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 July 2020 15: 41 New
                      +2
                      That is, a reasonable investment in an inexpensive real estate? ))
                    12. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 16: 08 New
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                      That is, a reasonable investment in an inexpensive real estate?

                      Here he did not even invest, I think - everything went for free. laughing
                      Nearby, Count Orlov erected a tower-ruin in the park for his children to play. Now it is being restored.

                      Also in Strelna there was a mansion of the "rolling pennant" - Malechka Kshesinskaya ... Shirokorad accuses her and Sergei Mikhailovich of receiving significant kickbacks from Schneider's company, and because of such deeds our army was not humanly armed in WWI ... hi
                      From the wiki:
                      Count A. A. Ignatiev, who was a military agent in France during the First World War, in his memoirs "Fifty Years in the Service" directly pointed out the incompetence of the Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich in matters of artillery and his "inclination" to certain suppliers.
                      Although there are other opinions about this hero-lover, I'm sorry. hi
                    13. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 July 2020 16: 26 New
                      +2
                      A rollback from those times ... we really look more like Tsarist Russia than the USSR
                    14. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 16: 34 New
                      +3
                      A rollback from those times ... we really look more like Tsarist Russia than the USSR

                      Yeah ... Exactly! request
                      The aforementioned Count Ignatiev himself, by his first marriage, received the Elizavetino estate (near Gatchina). But .. In general, the couple divorced, and the ex-wife married Polovtsov-ml. - the son of the founder of the Russian Historical Society and the owner of the Rapti estate - "Luga Versailles". And the diplomat officer, as well as the great patriot and greedy man, Ignatiev, who did not share the treasury with the whites, but gave it to the red, when everything was settled in the country, added a few remarks in his memoirs towards his ex's second husband! wink But in general, he was an interesting and deserved person. The series was shot about him - "Kromov". Probably for Pikulev's "I Have the Honor" he also partly served as a prototype. drinks
        2. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 12: 29 New
          +4
          I completely agree with your assessment of events!

          Albert, I remembered one more fact. With the outbreak of the First World War, higher educational institutions were closed in Russia. Including officers. That is, I suppose - the bearded cherub with the would-be generals wanted to solve everything "with little blood, with a mighty blow, on foreign territory"? what It turned out to be great. The German is a good warrior, no matter how you treat him, and their economy was just brilliant in comparison with ours. soldier Having received in the faces, by the end of 1914, universities reopened ...
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 July 2020 15: 18 New
          +2
          Closed up to be taken by the crowd
          Without the Western Front, they would have learned
          Even in the absence of Turkish
        4. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 20 New
          +3
          Without the Western Front, they would have learned
          Even in the absence of Turkish

          Exactly. And some people really burn their eyes.
        5. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 July 2020 15: 22 New
          +2
          Well, there is such a category of people who have inspired themselves this or that vision of historical events and their own life
        6. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 15: 37 New
          +3
          Well, there is such a category of people who have inspired themselves this or that vision of historical events and their own life

          from the category "wow, we would give them if they caught up with us!"
          The economies were incomparable .. The Germans had enough fuse until the Compiegne truce.
        7. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 July 2020 16: 18 New
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          Economy, quality of training of soldiers, etc.
        8. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 16: 24 New
          +3
          Economy, quality of training of soldiers, etc.

          the preparation was not the worst. Except for the percentage of illiterates. The officer was also well trained. But, as we know, the officers were knocked out in the first year and a half. They were replaced by yesterday's students - "ensigns". One of these "former students" then broke the back of the Wehrmacht - I'm talking about Marshal Vasilevsky. But that was already another war! drinks
        9. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 July 2020 16: 31 New
          +2
          The Prussian drill is the Prussian drill. They were trained to automatism in everything. Each subsequent military conscription in the training was taught, again, to automatism, new cartoons that showed their effectiveness in war. There were excesses such as "assault brigades". About the preparation of the Russian army - in addition to the Cossack units, it was "showy".
  • kalibr
    29 July 2020 12: 24 New
    +3
    There is a very good French film about hussars. This is what the GUSARS are called (1955).
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 28 July 2020 18: 47 New
    +4
    Quote: Pan Kohanku
    or a freak like the famous Kohanku ...

    Nikolay, was that someone from the Radziwills? if I'm not mistaken
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 29 July 2020 00: 10 New
      +3
      Nikolay, was that someone from the Radziwills? if I'm not mistaken

      Sergey, Stanislav Karol Radziwill was perhaps the most prominent representative of his own family. So to speak, "the apotheosis of the gentry", or "how to be stunned from their own permissiveness." And the Belarusians, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, even staged a play about him. laughing
      He loved to talk to everyone - "Pane Kohanka" - they say, "my dear". The nickname stuck with him. drinks
  • Operator
    Operator 28 July 2020 16: 42 New
    +1
    Jews served in the colonial administration during the Polish occupation of Little and White Russia, therefore, according to old memory, they hoped to occupy the former profitable place - for which they were rewarded from the Russians (as Poland was partitioned) and even from the Poles (in 1939-44).

    It is not the first time for Jews to step on the same rake: the same thing happened earlier in Spain, the first European country where Jews arrived in a train of Arabs and became their colonial administration among the Christian inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula, for which the Spaniards paid back the Jews in full during the Inquisition.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 July 2020 17: 53 New
      +5
      In general, it is true - only in Spain did they end up under the Romans, and in large numbers
      1. Operator
        Operator 28 July 2020 18: 12 New
        -1
        After the deportation of the Jews from the Roman province of Palestine, the main Jewish diasporas were in Mesopotamia and North Africa. In the last place, they joined the Arab conquerors (served their logistical needs) and, together with the Arabs, moved to Europe on the Iberian Peninsula.

        PS The people's avengers of the Polish colonial administration were not the forces of Bohdan Khmelnitsky (who operated on the Left-Bank Ukraine), but the Ukrainian rebels-Haidamaks (who operated on the Right-Bank Ukraine, which remained part of Poland during the reunification of Little Russia with Russia).
        The descendants of these Haidamaks, who came from rural areas - today's Rogul (and by no means Great Russian city dwellers), staged Jewish pogroms in the south of the Russian Empire at the beginning of the 20th century, while the tsarist state authorities resisted pogroms as best they could in order to maintain their monopoly on violence.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 28 July 2020 18: 18 New
          +2
          1) The deportation was only from Jerusalem
          2) To Rome and surroundings, from there to Germany, France, Spain (modern)
          3) Few joined the Moors, but many Jews from Baghdad moved there for "new opportunities"
          4) Russians - yes, they were smashing to a lesser extent, but what did they have to do with Khmelnitsky? The tsarist government intervened in the pogroms on the third day, as a rule. In Odessa, when, instead of frail students, the Jews gathered bindyuzhniks, loaders and criminals who gave the black hundred under the tail, the authorities intervened quickly - 150 people were imprisoned.
          1. Operator
            Operator 28 July 2020 19: 48 New
            -2
            Quite the opposite - after the deportation of Jews from Spain in the 16th century, they came to France, from there to Germany and then to Poland, Lithuania, Malaya and Belaya Rus'. Plus a small part to Italy.

            Almost all the few Jews who moved to the Apennines on their own initiative in the first centuries of our era, by the time of the Arab conquest of Spain had already been assimilated by the Romans and Goths - they became Christians.

            In Odessa, Odessa bandits of Jewish nationality acted against the visiting Little Russian rogules - pogromists.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 28 July 2020 19: 51 New
              +1
              The pogroms were initiated by the Greeks (competition in smuggling), carried out by the Black Hundreds, some locals and visitors
  • Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 7 August 2020 16: 04 New
    0
    In the Russian Lithuanian Uhlan regiment, among the representatives of other nations, Lithuanian and possibly Crimean Karaites served. And for representatives of other faiths in the army of the Russian Empire, a number of awards were made without crosses.
  • Icelord
    Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 05 New
    +1
    Not only the French, everyone. The "little" Zitten, Marshal Friedrich and the chief of the black hussars had braids to the waist
  • Undecim
    Undecim 28 July 2020 12: 30 New
    11
    I am very sorry for my French, but if it said Tout hussard qui n'est pas mort à trente ans est un jean-foutre, then foutre is what, in Russian, is a five-letter word with a beginning with "b".
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 28 July 2020 13: 00 New
      +7
      The main problems arose with the translation of this particular word, everything else is simple. Therefore, I wrote that the translation is free. smile
      I myself did not know this word, but there are so many options on the net ... smile
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 28 July 2020 13: 29 New
        +7
        However, there is a nuance here. The word we are discussing has acquired a modern meaning relatively recently. And in those glorious times it meant something like "chatterbox", "chatterbox", "idle talker" and was freely used in literary language. Yes, and in Alexei Tolstoy's novel "Peter the First" this word is used in this very sense.
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 28 July 2020 14: 02 New
          +7
          In general, be that as it may, Lassalle walked the earth for four years in the status of this very "jean-futra", whatever it means then. smile
          However, he died as befits a warrior and a knight - on the battlefield, having actually completed the battle with victory, at the hands of a defeated enemy - a classic of the genre of heroic epic. Literally no worse than Buba Kastorsky. smile
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 July 2020 15: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: Undecim
      I am very sorry for my French, but if it said Tout hussard qui n'est pas mort à trente ans est un jean-foutre, then foutre is what, in Russian, is a five-letter word with a beginning with "b".

      Are you talking about a five-letter fallen creature with a soft end? If it wasn't the first letter, I would have thought it was a ruble ..
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 28 July 2020 18: 33 New
        +5
        Bravo, Albert!
        "It's still nothing that in Europe they give one fifty kopecks for our ruble - it will be worse if they start giving in the face for our ruble." (FROM)
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 28 July 2020 12: 40 New
    +4
    Interestingly, there, overseas, at the very beginning of the American War of Independence (1775-1783), not all "Americans" opposed the "British".
    Well, this war is sometimes called the first civil war in the United States. There were quite a few regular British troops - there were still problems with imperfect vehicles at that time. But mainly loyalists and supporters of independence fought (especially in the South)
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 12: 50 New
      +8
      There were quite a few regular British troops - there were still problems with imperfect vehicles at that time.

      Michael, as far as I remember, there were also the brave Hessians who participated from the British side? drinks
      Hesse non-commissioned officer with a halberd. The halberd in the figure is clearly reduced in length. wink

      It must be said that the young American army also had an archaic "status weapon". In the hands of an officer of the Continental Army - an esponton.
      1. Icelord
        Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 14 New
        0
        This is a partisan, a partisan!
        1. Icelord
          Icelord 2 August 2020 15: 15 New
          +1
          American, yes espoton
  • Engineer
    Engineer 28 July 2020 14: 36 New
    +4
    In the first picture, "ours are beaten" ((
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 14: 45 New
      +7
      In the first picture, "ours are beaten" ((

      well yes. But then our guys fought back. drinks
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 28 July 2020 16: 30 New
        +4
        "but the sediment remained"
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 28 July 2020 16: 55 New
          +4
          "but the sediment remained"

          ah .. if you read Swedish historians about Poltava ...
          Englund (I recommend! Http://militera.lib.ru/h/englund_p/index.html):
          In fact, at the end of the battle, the massacre began. A thirty-seven-year-old Guards captain from Westergötland named Lare Thiesensten lay with his leg torn off near the place where the Upplandians took the last battle. He saw with what extraordinary fury the Russians attacked the remnants of the regiment. In their fury, they pierced everyone with blades and bayonets, not distinguishing a living soldier from a dead one. The darkness of lances and swords flew up and down: the wounded and already fallen were cut, chopped and stabbed. An unpleasantly stirring, swaying mountain of bodies rose up in front of Tisensten's eyes: a hundred, if not more, Swedes lay in one heap, alive mixed with the dead. This is also known from other battles. It seems that in moments of mortal danger, people tend to clump together, and they pile on top of each other in a last, desperate attempt to find protection. As if in a feverish struggle with death, before giving up their ghost, they fall into childhood and, screaming for their mother, hide under other bodies in order to gain a sense of security for one last time. Russian soldiers plunged their blood-stained weapons indiscriminately into this terrifying monument to the living and the dead. Tiessensten saw that the Upplandians "lay in a heap, as if they had fallen on each other or were deliberately abandoned together, while the enemy beat them with lances, bayonets and swords in the heat and cut what was urine, without discerning whether they were alive or dead." Many escaped bullets and cannonballs, only to meet such an absurd death.
          Well, in principle, it was, I think. It's your own fault, yourselves, priests! stop
  • sg7s
    sg7s 29 July 2020 16: 59 New
    0
    Mlyn, I mastered the whole branch ... At least someone mentioned the Cossacks ... Some fagot mummers. ovsky imperfections, Indians ... What are you talking about? Who made history ?! Bistro, French, nemchura in WWI? Have you read Sholokhov? Carefully! Why was it banned at first? I know? not ? Yes, just everything - Trotsky deceived the Verkhovskys. betrayed (Jewish, SS. I love them ... no urine. Kagtavy), on their bayonets I went south, acquiring new cadres (Region of the Don Army) Whoever there were feeble sailors-revolutionaries, without the Cossacks - they would be in pieces smashed idiots ... grandfather, when he asked - lost his temper ... owls. I could not stand power ...