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Mounted Latniks Sunset

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Cuirassier armor, presumably German, 1625-1635 Helmet weight 2500 g; breastplate of cuirass 6550 g; the back of 4450 g; gorget 1300 g; right shoulder pad and bracelet 3500 g; left shoulder pad and bracelet 3300 g; Tassets (Legguards) 2650 g; right glove 750 g; left 700 Royal Arsenal, Leeds


I saw slaves on horses, and the princes walking, like slaves, on foot.
Ecclesiastes 10.5: 7


Military affairs at the turn of the eras. In the transitional era, military affairs always develops rapidly. However, it is influenced by two directly opposite trends. The first is the power of tradition and the established belief that the old is good with what is familiar. The second - you need to do something, because the old tricks for some reason do not work. So, Marshal Henry VIII Thomas Audley demanded that none of the shooters should wear armor, except for the helmet of Morion, as he considered: "There can be no good shooter, be it an archer or an arquebusier, if he serves dressed in armor."

Mounted Latniks Sunset
Many readers of VO ask why many armor of this time have such plump leggings. And here's why: look at what pants were in fashion at the time. Here is the double of the Elector Christian II of Saxony (1583-1611). OK. 1610. The waist circumference is 120 cm. The chest circumference is 111,5 cm. Weight is 987. Inventory records show that this doublet was worn by Elector Christian II of Saxony when he received the feudal right to dominate the duchy from Emperor Rudolph II in Prague in 1610. year. This event happened on the morning of June 27, 1610, so we know for sure that such clothes were worn then (Vienna armory Ward)


19 years have passed, but the fashion has not changed. Doublet of Elector Johann George I of Saxony. OK. 1629. G. Sewn in Dresden. Pants length 70 cm, buttocks 51,5 cm, weight 1220 g (Vienna Armory)

As a result, when in 1543 40 soldiers were sent from France to Norwich, then 8 of them were archers who had a “good bow”, 24 “good arrows” (the number since the time of the Battle of Bannkobern!), “A good sword”, a dagger, but all the rest were “billmen,” that is, spearmen armed with a “bill” (“tongue of an ox”) - a 1,5-meter spear, with a knife-shaped blade, convenient in hand-to-hand combat. The sword and dagger complemented the weapons, and they were all also in armor, but they weren’t specified in the document. By the way, this same "bill" from the armament of the British army was excluded by decree of 1596. Now the infantry was completely armed only with peaks and arquebuses.


The development of military affairs in the XNUMXth century gave rise to many amusing weapons. For example, here is such an infantry shield with a lantern, a plate glove and a retractable blade. The idea was to open the flashlight cover on the shield unexpectedly for the enemy, blind it at night and stab it without much difficulty. The blades on the glove had notches to capture enemy blades. However, most likely this shield would be more dangerous for its owner than the enemy. After all, the lamp on it was oil, and dousing with burning oil, waving such a shield, it would be easier than simple! (Vienna Armory)

However, not quite so. Good English Bow was still in use. Moreover, there were military leaders who demanded and even sought the presence in the English army of infantry with two types of weapons - a lance and a bow. They were called that - dual-armed warriors. The illustrations depicting them and relating to 1620 have been preserved. They depict a typical pikiner in pikiner armor and a Morion helmet, which shoots from a bow and at the same time holds his lance in his hand. It is clear that this required considerable dexterity and serious training. In addition, the warrior was seriously burdened. So the “double weapons”, although it looked theoretically very tempting, did not take root in practice. Moreover, British historians such as A. Norman and D. Pottinger report that after 1633 Pikiner armor was not mentioned at all, that is, they did not wear anything except a helmet to protect them!


Drawing by the English artist Angus McBride. On it you see two British pikemen and a musketeer of 1620. The one on the left is just one of the “double weapons” warriors. By the way, their armor is by no means a fantasy of the artist, but is most carefully redrawn from samples from the Royal Armory of Leeds

At the same time, the number of arquebuses was constantly growing, and at the time of the death of Henry VIII there were 7700 of them in the Tower arsenal, but only 3060 bows. Knightly armor still existed, but essentially turned into a masquerade metal costume. During the reign of Queen Elizabeth, the development of knightly armor continued, but it was worn mainly by her courtiers. In fact, the battle armor at that time was only cuirassier armor, which was described in previous articles of this cycle, but they also underwent changes in accordance with the requirements of the time. True, back in 1632, the English historian Peter Young noted, the English cavalryman was all the same knight, although he did not have plate shoes that he was replaced with knee-high boots. He armed himself either with a spear, but somewhat lightened in comparison with the knight's, or with a pair of pistols and a sword.


Equipment of the English equestrian armor of 1632 according to Peter Young


Muskets and helmet from Cesky Krumlov castle on the Vltava

And then the time of the civil war of 1642–1649 came, and the problem of the price of cuirassier armor became crucial. Armies became more and more massive. More and more common people were called in to them, and buying them expensive plate gloves, plate leggings and completely closed helmets with visor type was an unacceptable luxury. Armament was simplified and cheapened all the time. Therefore, it is not surprising that at that time such simplified types of protection appeared as a helmet “sweat” (“pot”) for ordinary horsemen of the army of the parliament and helmets “cavalier”, which looked like a wide-brimmed hat with a sliding metal carrier, popular in the army of the king.


The cuirassier armor of King Charles I, made in 1612 when he was Prince of Wales. Made in Greenwich. Entered the Tower in 1650. Full height: 169 cm, weight 33,2 kg, gloves weight - 0,59 / 0,578 (left / right) kg, gorget weight - 1,09 kg, leggings and sabatons - 1,44 / 1,39 (left / right ) kg, weight of tassets (leggings) 1,59 / 1,66 (left / right) kg, left wambras (arm) and half-drone (shoulder) weigh 2,95 kg, back plate - 4,23 kg, chest plate - 4,45 , 4,9 kg, helmet - XNUMX kg (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)

Very heavy sapper helmets appeared with a strong metal visor, which, it is believed, were worn not so much by the sappers themselves as the military leaders who watched the siege and fell under enemy shots. The sweat on the helmets was taken into a lattice of rods, that is, even the village blacksmiths could forge such “equipment”.


Three Quarter of the Museum Cuirassier Plate in Glenbow (Museum in Calgary, Alberta, Canada)


1620 Horse Arquebus Breastplate (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)


Shoulder of the same cuirass, close-up. (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)

The chest and back began to cover the cuirass to the waist, and the left arm - the bracelet that protected the arm to the elbow, and wore it with a plate glove. But in the army of the parliament, such details of armor were considered "overkill" and her "virgin cavalry had only helmets and cuirasses.

Bohemian two-handed saber, approx. 1490. Also depicted in a series of miniatures depicting the "triumphal procession of Maximilian I", performed by Hans Burgkmire (1473-1531). Blade of Italian work. Hall number 3. (Vienna Armory)


One of the two swords solemnly handed over to the imperial embassy by Pope Julius II on January 24, 1509 on the occasion of the construction of Maximilian I and his grandson, later Charles V, into the knighthood of St. Petra. The jeweler Salomone da Sesso, who, after a change of faith, called himself “Ercole dei Fidelis” (circa 1465–1518/1519, Ferrara or Rome) (Vienna imperial arsenal. Hall No. 2), may be hiding under the name of the manufacturer “Master Ercole”.


Since the mid-1540th century, a war hammer has become an increasingly popular weapon for cavalry, worn either on the bow of a saddle or on a belt. All the impact force of the hammer tip was concentrated in a very small area, so with its help it was possible to break through even strong armor. A war hammer was used until about 1526. To decorate this magnificent battle ax, which was made for the brother of Emperor Charles V, who later became Emperor Ferdinand I, the gold melt technique (amalgamation) was used, which, due to its complexity, soon ceased to be used. Year of manufacture 1503th. Place of manufacture: Augsburg. The owner is Emperor Ferdinand I, son of Philip of Habsburg (1564-3). Vienna Armory. Hall number XNUMX

John Clements, a well-known specialist in the field of reconstruction of fencing, in this regard, indicates that from 1500 to 1600 the West European sword very quickly transformed into a rapier and a sword, and in the heavy cavalry the latter turned into chopping broadswords.


Basketball Sword (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York)

In fact, these were the same swords, but with a wider blade. In England they began to be called the "basket sword", since the handle was protected by a real "basket" of iron rods or strips. Under the influence of the French fencing school, the type of civilian light sword with a blade 32 inches (81 cm) long spread.


Rapier. It was part of a set consisting of a rapier with a sheath and a dagger with a sheath. OK. 1610 Dresden Total length 119 cm, blade 102 cm, weight 1460 g. (Vienna Armory)

So, in fact, equestrian armor gradually approached its sunset and the year 1700 became its border. No, cuirassiers in brilliant cuirasses from the armies of Europe did not leave anywhere, but they did not play such a significant role in wars as, say, French pistols of the “war for faith” era. It became clear that success in the battle depends on the skillful actions of the commander and the integrated use of infantry, cavalry and artillery, and not the complete superiority of any one kind of troops and, in particular, plate cavalry.

It remains to talk about a little. In particular, about the recognition system "friend or foe" on the battlefield. After all, there and there, people fought in black armor, covering them from head to toe, or in yellow leather tunics, black cuirasses and hats with feathers. How can one distinguish between friends and foes?


Imperial cuirassier with a scarf over his shoulder. Without him, who is who, it would be simply impossible to determine. Illustration from the book “Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC - AD1914 »V.Vuksic, Z.Grbasic

The solution was found in the use of a scarf, which was worn over the shoulder like an order ribbon, and which the decor of the armor did not hide, from whom it was, of course, and indicated its nationality in the most noticeable way. In France, for example, in the XNUMXth century it could be black or white depending on who its owner fought for - for Catholics or Huguenot Protestants. But also it could be green, or even light brown. In England, scarves were blue and red, in Savoy - blue, in Spain - red, in Austria - black and yellow, and in Holland - orange.


The English cuirass of 1650 was not much different from the later cuirasses of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)

Arms simplification also happened. All kinds of clerics and maces from the arsenal disappeared. The weapon of the heavy cavalry was a broadsword and two pistols, a light pistol and a saber, dragoons got a sword and a carbine, and horse pikemen got long peaks. This turned out to be quite enough to solve all the combat tasks of the era of developed industrial production, which Europe entered after 1700.

References
1. Barlett, C. English Longbowmen 1330-1515. L .: Osprey (Warrior series No. 11), 1995.
2. Richardson, T. The Armor and Arms of Henry VIII. UK, Leeds. Royal Armouries Museum. The Trusteers of Armouries, 2002.
3. The Cavalry // Edited by J. Lawford // Indianopolis, New York: The Bobbs Merril Company, 1976.
4. Young, P. The English Civil War // Edited by J. Lawford // Indianopolis, New York: The Bobbs Merril Company, 1976.
5. Williams, A., De Reuk, A. The Royal Armory at Greenwich 1515-1649: a history of its technology. UK, Leeds. Royal Armouries Pub., 1995.
6. Norman, AVB, Pottinger, D. Warrior to soldier 449-1660. A brief introduction to the history of British warfare. UK L .: Weidenfild and Nicolson Limited, 1966.
7. Vuksic, V., Grbasic, Z. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC - AD1914. L .: A Cassel Book, 1993, 1994.


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“A small discovery in the butt of an arquebus ...”
Horsemen of the Eighty Years War
Horses and saddles of the XVI-XVII centuries
“By people and by horses, not by aer”
Ordonance companies
“It's a miracle if someone is killed with a spear”
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  1. WILL
    WILL 22 February 2020 05: 30 New
    11
    Thanks to the author! Good article and as always - a great selection of photos! hi
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 February 2020 05: 39 New
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    With pleasure I plunged into the tale of “armor and weapons”, and of “tights - Saxon nobles” !!!
    Vyacheslav Olegovich sincere thanks for the Saturday reading !!!
    Regards, Vlad!
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 22 February 2020 06: 49 New
      10
      Vlad, hello and best wishes! soldier Happy New Year! Man! drinks
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 February 2020 10: 10 New
        +4
        Mutually! drinks
        All a good day and good wishes from the beautiful half of humanity !! hi
  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 22 February 2020 05: 56 New
    10
    Live and learn ! Or, re-read the archives! "The other day" there was an incident with me ... there was a telecast on February 21 "Field of Miracles". And the theme was very familiar: ancient Russian weapons and armor! All questions "clicked" on the fly! But then the question arose about the "variety" of armor made of polished plates worn on chain mail ... (third letter - р ) ... and I "froze"! I went over the names of the armor in my memory, but I could not "find" the one I needed! It turned out ...: "mirror" ...! Mirror! I knew it! But I forgot! That's it, kids ... cram textbooks! Then you will not get into trouble, like Uncle Vova! hi
  4. DMB 75
    DMB 75 22 February 2020 06: 14 New
    10
    Thanks for the interesting article, I look forward to continuing!
  5. Catfish
    Catfish 22 February 2020 06: 31 New
    13
    In the photo of the showcase "Muskets and a helmet from the Český Krumlov castle on the Vltava," I was a little embarrassed by the view of the second barrel from the left with an impact flint lock. This weapon is much closer to our time and somehow is not at all associated with pikes and armor. Rather, it is a fussey of the eighteenth century, but I'm not sure about the dating, you need to look at the brand.
    Thank you very much for the article, as always. ))) Holiday greetings !!! drinks
    1. Lamata
      Lamata 22 February 2020 07: 40 New
      +6
      That's for sure, and cha thought so !!! it looks like a fitting.
    2. kalibr
      22 February 2020 08: 06 New
      +7
      Dear Konstantin! All right. But I didn’t put him there. Apparently they decided - since there is a flintlock - a bunch of gop!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 22 February 2020 15: 34 New
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        Dear sir! Yes, I understand that it was not you who shoved him there. Maybe they had the whole museum and had only four rifles, so they squeezed it into one pyramid. smile
  6. Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 February 2020 06: 43 New
    +8
    The shield with a lantern is striking. Provided instructions for maintenance and use. Amazing multioperation. A curious thing.
    1. Gato
      Gato 22 February 2020 10: 37 New
      +4
      And how do you like this prodigy (imagine the loading process):
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 22 February 2020 10: 48 New
        +3
        With the dream of artifacts you will not part. And after all, something can serve as a stepping stone to sensible inventions.
      2. kalibr
        22 February 2020 12: 46 New
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        The assistant charged, so there were no problems!
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 22 February 2020 15: 31 New
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        Sergei hi , it does not seem to be the barrel, but something like a sleeve into which the barrel was inserted. Put it in, fired, pulled out, reloaded and a new one. But, in my opinion, there was no longer given time to recharge. )))
        And a later option:
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 22 February 2020 16: 41 New
          +3
          This is just the trunk.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 22 February 2020 16: 44 New
            +1
            In this photo - yes, in that - it is unlikely. request
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 22 February 2020 17: 08 New
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              And on "that" too. This is the famous pistol shield from the collection of the Higgins Armory in Worcester. These shields were ordered by King Henry VIII to the Italians for his bodyguards.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 22 February 2020 17: 12 New
                +1
                Vic, but on the "volume" the walls of the "trunk" are too thin, don't you think?
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 22 February 2020 17: 29 New
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                  In the picture, yes. Unfortunately, there is no other perspective. But this exhibit is known.
                2. Undecim
                  Undecim 22 February 2020 19: 26 New
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                  Here is a snapshot of the same shield, but from a different angle. As you can see, a normal trunk.
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 22 February 2020 20: 10 New
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                    Yes, the trunk is real. It's amazing how much a photograph can distort a subject.
          2. Undecim
            Undecim 22 February 2020 16: 46 New
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            The reverse side of the shield. The gun is wick.
            Famous English and Italian samples. The Italian are distinguished by a larger caliber pistol and a richer finish.
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 23 February 2020 12: 10 New
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          Quote: Sea Cat
          it doesn’t seem to be a barrel, but something like a sleeve into which the barrel was inserted. Put it in, fired, pulled out, reloaded and a new one.

          I've heard something about this "gun shield"! Shield-English ... a pistol (at least that's how the gun was called in the article ...) - breech-loading, and even wick! So ... this is a weapon, not a "sleeve". The purpose was: in the event of a breakthrough by the enemy through the fortress gates, a line of fighters was lined up on the enemy's path, hiding behind shields equipped with these pistols ...
  7. Lamata
    Lamata 22 February 2020 07: 42 New
    +3
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, as always excellent !!! But how do you estimate, 28 or 35 kg to carry lat on himself, Yeah !!! in the photo Muskets and a helmet from the Český Krumlov castle on the Vltava - the second one on the left is very similar to the fitting.
    1. kalibr
      22 February 2020 08: 05 New
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      I also noticed that it is somewhat "modern thing". But those who collected the exposition, apparently, decided - since there is a flint castle - here!
      1. Lamata
        Lamata 22 February 2020 08: 11 New
        +3
        And it’s not like wild people !!! I always thank you for your materials, although a couple of times I really did not agree with them.
        1. kalibr
          22 February 2020 08: 18 New
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          Quote: Lamata
          although a couple of times I really did not agree with them.

          So they would write in what! Interesting!
          1. Lamata
            Lamata 22 February 2020 08: 26 New
            +4
            It was a long time ago, about 2 years ago, it seems you wrote a series of articles about the village. A somewhat gloomy picture came out, I, of course, are younger than you and quite significantly, but I remember the derevnyi from the very beginning 80 very well, I will not mention this. True, different republics. Yes crap, gone already. Moreover, I sharply expressed myself there and got already, as I recall 2 warnings.))))
            1. kalibr
              22 February 2020 09: 07 New
              +4
              Dear Igor! You understand that in the era of the Internet, lying is just stupid. So everything is roughly the way it was. And if you read carefully, there were people who confirmed this in the comments, and one wrote that he ran away from there in two weeks. And the vision turned out to be gloomy, of course - the slave is not a pilgrim. And then in different places it was really different. The funny thing is that the darkest article was never written. He did not hurt the tender souls of VO readers.
              1. Lamata
                Lamata 22 February 2020 11: 34 New
                +2
                Every thing was in the vast expanses of the USSR, in the Kazakh SSR I did not see this. However, thanks for other series of articles, I was especially interested in what you would give for material about the food of chivalry.))))
                1. kalibr
                  22 February 2020 12: 45 New
                  +4
                  One has already been here - type "Food of the Knights" IN Shpakovsky ... They ask for more ...
  8. Olgovich
    Olgovich 22 February 2020 07: 51 New
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    Shoulder of the same cuirass, close-up.

    And the hook is like on an ordinary garden gate ..... recourse
    1. Gato
      Gato 22 February 2020 11: 41 New
      +2
      And the hook is like on an ordinary garden gate

      Engineering is conservative ... My heck in the bathroom also looks like a rifle bolt (or vice versa) laughing
  9. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 22 February 2020 09: 33 New
    +2
    Yes! Thanks.
    Photos are good!
  10. Gato
    Gato 22 February 2020 09: 52 New
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    Drawing by the English artist Angus McBride. On it you see two British pikemen and a musketeer of 1620. ..... By the way, their armor is by no means the artist’s imagination, but is most carefully redrawn from samples from the Royal Armory of Leeds

    I doubt that ordinary pikemen wore armor with such a finish. Yes, and unusual too
  11. Gato
    Gato 22 February 2020 09: 55 New
    +3
    Many readers of VO ask why many armor of this time are so plump legguards. And here's why: look at what pants were in fashion at the time

    I think it’s not about the width of the pants - it’s more comfortable to sit in the saddle in the wide leggings.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 February 2020 10: 14 New
      +4
      As indeed in our breeches or trousers!
      1. Gato
        Gato 22 February 2020 10: 25 New
        +3
        in our breeches or trousers

        In trousers and infantry it is much more convenient on long marches. But riding breeches is more a tribute to mee .. military show-off. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain from a practical point of view the appearance of narrow cavalry leggings, plaits at the Prussian Zoldat or, for example, modern "tactical" beards laughing
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 22 February 2020 11: 58 New
          +6
          As the owner (already 25 years ago) of a "tactical" beard, a substantiated practical side of the issue. I hate the shaving process! negative laughing
          1. Lamata
            Lamata 22 February 2020 12: 22 New
            +4
            And the beard care process? He, it seems to me, also requires the application of force yes Sami wore tanks once, tormented.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 22 February 2020 13: 10 New
              +2
              Trimmer once a week.
          2. kalibr
            22 February 2020 12: 44 New
            +3
            You are like a knight Templar ...
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 22 February 2020 13: 20 New
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              Well, not so much, Vyacheslav Olegovich. Those, I remember, the order of the order was forbidden to cut beards. By the way, the most famous literary Templar, de Boisguillebert, for some reason, is more often portrayed as smooth-shaven.
              1. kalibr
                22 February 2020 14: 16 New
                +2
                It was bad! I broke the charter !!!
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 22 February 2020 16: 01 New
                  +2
                  And do not say, finally, a chaos! Not only was he going to break the vow of celibacy, so also with a Jewess !!!
                  1. kalibr
                    22 February 2020 16: 20 New
                    +2
                    You see, Anton, and you still take an example from him. Not our man, obviously ...
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 22 February 2020 16: 30 New
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                      I, as a man unencumbered by matrimonial obligations, still hope to meet my "beautiful Revveka". One more try left. It won't work, I'll go to the Socrates, well, or to the edges, "to the extreme."
                      1. kalibr
                        22 February 2020 20: 12 New
                        +6
                        When choosing a life partner for yourself, you need to make sure that a woman steps on the earth easily. Those. had a light gait, and did not waddle like a duck, did not "drive nails into the asphalt." Then she needs to have a good appetite, and she does not pick food on the plate. And, of course, at least in a restaurant she kept a knife in her right and a fork in her left. It is not necessary to be able to eat with chopsticks.
                        Next, she should be able to cook. And it’s very important - her face compared to yours should be smaller in height. If her face is larger than yours - some men are being led to it - oh, all mine - there will be no good. She also should not constantly laugh ... And most importantly. Close your eyes and listen to her voice. Think about whether it will be pleasant for you to listen to it after 10, 20 and ... years. If not, look for another. Everything else will change ... but the voice does not change, unless the woman smokes, of course. I followed all these rules and ... I live happily with my wife for 45 years.
                      2. Gato
                        Gato 23 February 2020 01: 49 New
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                        Quote: kalibr
                        And it’s very important - her face compared to yours should be smaller in height.

                        .. and growth it should be no more than 120 cm, with a square head - so it’s more convenient to put a mug with beer (C) laughing drinks
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 22 February 2020 16: 16 New
                +3
                In general, "Ivanhoe" is still a branchy cranberry.
                1. kalibr
                  22 February 2020 16: 22 New
                  +4
                  Actually, you, Anton, God bless you, have now prompted me an excellent topic for two, at least materials - about historical inconsistencies in historical novels. How do you like this idea? And start with Ivanhoe!
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 22 February 2020 16: 41 New
                    +3
                    Actually, Vyacheslav Olegovich, ideas are in the air. Nevertheless, I am glad to have the opportunity, from time to time, to act as your muse. On the other hand, it was you with your phrase: "how much did a chicken cost in Paris" that prompted me to study microhistory. Insanely interesting "study" !!!
                    1. kalibr
                      22 February 2020 16: 48 New
                      +4
                      Nice to hear, Anton! This is how people become specialists, by the way. And ... and ... then they sit down and write their first novel, about Zhanna D. Arc. And they dedicate ... (here we have to cry with emotion) to the one who ... prompted. And then the shadow of the "motivator" comes at night and says "Thank you!"
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 22 February 2020 17: 09 New
                      +2
                      No, Vyacheslav Olegovich! Jeanne has too "trampled" biography. Alienor of Aquitaine is much more interesting.
                    3. kalibr
                      22 February 2020 20: 03 New
                      +3
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Jeanne has too "trampled" biography.

                      No, Anton! You can not do it this way. More interesting ... you never know what? But where is the material? And then everything has been gathered up to you, everything is from ZHZL to Mark Twain’s novel. From you a NEW ACUTE LOOK AT THAT. WHAT ALL SEEED, AND YOU WILL SEE ELSE, and a lot of interesting household details. The aroma of the era! People don’t appreciate something completely new. They value the old, the familiar, but a little new. But not much!
    2. Korsar4
      Korsar4 22 February 2020 13: 11 New
      +4
      And there is a piece of summer-autumn time when you can afford not to shave.
  12. Fishery
    Fishery 21 May 2020 10: 02 New
    0
    riding breeches came up with a dude who hurt his leg) and in leggings it became ugly)))
  • bubalik
    bubalik 22 February 2020 11: 03 New
    +4
    As a result, when in 1543 40 soldiers were sent from France to Norwich, then 8 of them were archers who had a “good bow”, 24 “good arrows” (the number since the time of the Battle of Bannkobern!), “A good sword”, a dagger, but all the rest were “billmen,” that is, spearmen armed with a “bill” (“tongue of an ox”) - a 1,5-meter spear, with a knife-shaped blade, convenient in hand-to-hand combat. The sword and dagger complemented the weapons, and they were all also in armor, but they weren’t specified in the document. By the way, this same "bill" from the armament of the British army was excluded by decree of 1596. Now the infantry was completely armed only with peaks and arquebuses.

    ,,, The Conquest of Tunisia 1543-1548. Knightly armor is not visible.

    look what pants were in fashion at that time

    1. Gato
      Gato 22 February 2020 11: 26 New
      +3
      Battle of Lutzen (as early as 1632). Knightly armor is still there - but, of course, not everyone has it:
      1. Gato
        Gato 22 February 2020 11: 32 New
        +2
        Well, or Russian armor of the XVI century:
    2. Gato
      Gato 22 February 2020 11: 51 New
      +3
      And here is the tapestry of the same author (solid knightly armor):
      Tapestry No. 2 of the series “The Conquest of Tunisia”. Author: Willem de Pannemaker Creation time: circa 1554 Royal Palace of Madrid, Spain
  • Undecim
    Undecim 22 February 2020 17: 01 New
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    The development of military affairs in the XNUMXth century gave rise to many amusing weapons. For example, here is such an infantry shield with a lantern, a plate glove and a retractable blade.
    In the military business, amusing weapons are not used due to the fact that in battle fun is very expensive.
    From this point of view, as a weapon for combat, a shield with a lantern is completely useless. But for moving around the night city of those funny times - it is quite suitable. And the lantern is in place, and "gentlemen of fortune" can be scared away.
    Obviously, for these purposes, these shields did, because some samples have a special hook instead of a built-in flashlight. on which the lantern was hung. Some shields have only a flashlight.
    And dazzling with such an oil lamp is unlikely to succeed.

    A shield with a lantern from the collection of Royal Armouries (London).
  • bubalik
    bubalik 22 February 2020 17: 19 New
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    And here's why: look at what pants were in fashion at the time.

    ... what armor what clothes smile this is what labor is laid what
    ,,, like a map or a picture


    but it's just a cloak belay


    wink

    The landscape costume of Johann George I (which he received as a gift from his mother, the Dowager Elector Sofia of Saxony.).
    Time and place of manufacture: 1611, Dresden.
    Place of manufacture of fabrics: Italy.
    1. kalibr
      22 February 2020 19: 54 New
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      And why didn’t you indicate Tartaria Hyperborea? Do they exist on ancient maps?
  • faterdom
    faterdom 22 February 2020 17: 58 New
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    Many thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich - read without interruption.
    Yes, and the theme is that in any museum, the exposition under consideration is the most interesting - knightly armor and weapons. It acts magically on people, and on men, and on women, and even more so - but on children.
    Apotheosis and sunset edged weapons?
    Only now in all the worlds of the future and fantasy all are cut with swords, although sometimes laser ones! Well, it’s more interesting, more understandable, and the only way to reveal the characters of the Main Hero and the Main Villain.
    In fact, both melee weapons and personal protective equipment exist and are being improved in our time, and in military schools they still teach NFP techniques.
    Although, in real clashes, it rarely comes to hand-to-hand combat, but ... one must be prepared. Besides the fact that the soldier needs confidence in himself and in a comrade as an element of his combat training, no matter what weapon or support systems he controls. And for this - please run around the strip with napalm, jump, and learn to fight and defend! Temper the spirit (not spirits, but spirit)!
    So, cold steel has not gone out of our life, it is with us (albeit sometimes in grotesque forms: baseball bats in car dealerships!).
    It is beautiful, it is understandable, it beckons.
    With the upcoming Day of the Soviet Army and Navy of all those participating and sympathizing!
    1. kalibr
      22 February 2020 19: 58 New
      +3
      Thank you for your congratulations and words of gratitude! Although I did not serve in the army, but I have a military specialty according to the document - "military translator", and I was assigned to a part of which I do not remember, of course, but the accompanying letter read: "Will be involved in the territory of a potential enemy in case of emergency" ... So this is my holiday too. "Potential spies" ... haha, they are also fighting.
      1. Fat
        Fat 22 February 2020 20: 57 New
        +1
        You were joking in vain. Wed 71 over the GDR precisely military translators calculated. Decent service.
        I can be biased, I could "read" Only English with tension
        And the guys and three languages ​​read ... Do not be discouraged, the master has few of these left. Thank you for the article
  • Fat
    Fat 22 February 2020 20: 13 New
    0
    Followers of Sid Meer accept Lancer as the successors of pikemen, as far as this corresponds to historical truth, the big question. As it was in reality. Can this assumption be immediately attributed to hypotheses? Or are there elements of history in this?
    1. kalibr
      22 February 2020 22: 35 New
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      Dear Andrey Borisovich! The first time I hear about this. Pikemen are foot soldiers. Lancers are horsemen. But the riders with spears were always there, as were the pikemen. The difference in size, length of spears and peak. It matters.
      1. Fat
        Fat 23 February 2020 01: 16 New
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        This is not My promise, kopepeshchki after metallurgy are plodding ... In defense against any cavalry .. How? Sid. Dreams that the Lancers against the Knights 1-1. I'm in . .. of confusion.
        1. Gato
          Gato 23 February 2020 02: 00 New
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          This is not My promise, coppers after metallurgy

          It’s you who play the wrong mod. I recommend Realism Mod for Civ5, and even better CCM 2.5 for Civ3: if on a real map - a militaristic orgasm fellow
      2. Fat
        Fat 23 February 2020 01: 49 New
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        Thank you for the article. Well, hold on to the truth of history in the frames of museums. What can I find at your complete disposal
        I didn’t take this improvement out of motion, I caught it along with the folder
        Not in arms!
        In tactics ... Forgive the Lord. But a thousand riders with the right organization ... 200 arquebusiers can’t just ... They shouldn't ... DO NOT stop
        All the same, the ulans how not to call them ... Cavalry against the knights ...
        Let's start "Evesive Manuvers" From Star Wars ....
      3. Fat
        Fat 23 February 2020 01: 55 New
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        You still need to look, write in a personal. I am not an expert in history and weapons but in "Synchronization" I am very obnoxious ...
  • Ua3qhp
    Ua3qhp April 18 2020 20: 43 New
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    This is what self-isolation does. You can’t wait for the article, but here is one, for one. Thank.