War of the Russian Army Wrangel

War of the Russian Army Wrangel

From left to right: Head of the Government of the South of Russia A.V. Krivoshein, Commander-in-Chief P.N. Wrangel, Chief of Staff P.N. Shatilov. Crimea. Sevastopol 1920


Smoot. 1920 year. Crimea, as a base and strategic base for the revival of the White movement, was inconvenient. Lack of ammunition, bread, gasoline, coal, horses, help weapons from the allies made the defense of the Crimean bridgehead unpromising.

The Black Baron


When Wrangel took command of the Armed Forces of the South of Russia in early April 1920, he was 42 years old. Pyotr Nikolaevich came from an old noble family of Danish origin. Among his ancestors and relatives were officers, military leaders, navigators, admirals, professors and entrepreneurs. His father, Nikolai Yegorovich, served in the army, then became an entrepreneur, engaged in oil and gold mining, and was also a famous collector of antiques. Peter Wrangel graduated from the Mining Institute in the capital, was an engineer by training. And then he decided to go to military service.

Wrangel enlisted as a volunteer in the Life Guards Horse Regiment in 1901, and in 1902, having passed the exam at the Nikolaev Cavalry School, he was promoted to guard cornet with enrollment. Then he left the army and became an official in Irkutsk. With the start of the Japanese campaign, he volunteered to return to the army. He served in the Transbaikal Cossack army, bravely fought with the Japanese. He graduated from the Nikolaev Military Academy in 1910, in 1911 - a course of the Officer Cavalry School. He met the World War with the squadron commander of the Life Guards of the cavalry regiment in the rank of captain. In the war he proved himself to be a brave and skillful cavalry commander. He commanded the 1st Nerchinsk regiment of the Transbaikal army, the brigade of the Ussuri equestrian division, the 7th cavalry division and the Consolidated cavalry corps.

Bolsheviks did not accept. He lived in Crimea, after the German occupation, went to Kiev to offer his services to the hetman Skoropadsky. However, seeing the weakness of the Hetman, he went to Yekaterinodar and headed the 1st Cavalry Division in the Volunteer Army, then the 1st Cavalry Corps. He was one of the first to use cavalry in large formations in order to find a weak spot in the enemy’s defense and to reach his rear. He distinguished himself in battles in the North Caucasus, the Kuban and in the Tsaritsyn area. He led the Caucasian Volunteer Army in the Tsaritsyno direction. He came into conflict with the headquarters of Denikin, because he believed that the main blow should be done on the Volga in order to quickly connect with Kolchak. Then he repeatedly intrigued against the commander in chief. One of the leading qualities of the personality of the baron was the desire for success, careerism. In November 1919, after the defeat of the White Guards during the offensive in Moscow, he led the Volunteer Army. In December, due to disagreements with Denikin, he resigned and soon left for Constantinople. In early April 1920, Denikin resigned, Wrangel led the remnants of the White Army in the Crimea.


VSYUR Poster

White Guards in Crimea


At the time of assuming the post of Commander-in-Chief Wrangel, his main task was not to fight the Bolsheviks, but to preserve the army. After a series of catastrophic defeats and the loss of almost the entire territory of the white South of Russia, almost no one thought about active actions. The defeat seriously affected the morale of the White Guards. Discipline collapsed, hooliganism, drunkenness and unbridledness became commonplace in the evacuated parts. Robberies and other crimes have become commonplace. Some units left the submission, turned into a gang of deserters, marauders and bandits. In addition, the material condition of the army was undermined. In particular, Cossack units were taken to the Crimea almost without weapons. In addition, the Don people dreamed of going to the Don.

A heavy blow to the White Army was dealt by the "allies." They practically refused to support the White Guards. France, refusing to interfere in Crimean affairs, now relied on buffer states, primarily on Poland. Only in the middle of 1920 did Paris recognize the Wrangel government as a de facto Russian government and promised to help with money and weapons. Britain generally demanded an end to the struggle and compromise with Moscow, conclude an honorable peace, receive amnesty or free travel abroad. This position of London led to a complete disorganization of the White movement, the loss of faith in a future victory. In particular, the British finally undermined the authority of Denikin.

Many believed that the White Army in the Crimea was a trap. The peninsula had many vulnerabilities. The Red Army could organize an assault from Taman’s side, attack on Perekop, along the Chongar Peninsula and the Arabat Spit. The shallow Sivash was more a swamp than a sea, and was often passable. AT stories All the conquerors took the Crimean peninsula. In the spring of 1919, the Reds and Makhnovists easily occupied Crimea. In January, February and March 1920, Soviet troops broke through to the peninsula and were repelled only thanks to General Slaschev’s maneuverable tactics. In January 1920, Soviet troops captured Perekop, but the sugary counter-attack knocked out the enemy. In early February, the Reds crossed the ice of the frozen Sivash, but were driven back by Slashchev’s corps. On February 24, Soviet troops broke through the Chongar crossing, but were driven back by the White Guards. On March 8, the strike group of the 13th and 14th Soviet armies again took Perekop, but was defeated at the Ishun positions and retreated. After this failure, the Red Command for a while forgot about the White Crimea. A small barrier from the 13th Army units (9 thousand people) was left near the peninsula.

The talented military leader Slashchev did not rely on strong fortifications, which were not there. He left ahead only posts and patrols. The main forces of the corps were in winter apartments in settlements. The Reds had to go in frosts, snow and wind through desert areas where there were no shelters. Tired and frozen fighters crossed the first line of fortifications, and at that time fresh reserves of Slashchev approached. The white general had the opportunity to concentrate his small forces on a dangerous site and smashed the enemy. In addition, the Soviet command first underestimated the enemy, aiming at the Kuban and the North Caucasus. Then the Reds believed that the enemy had already been defeated in the Caucasus and that the miserable remnants of the whites in the Crimea would be easily dispersed. Slashchev’s tactics worked until the Soviet command concentrated superior forces, and especially the cavalry, which was able to quickly pass Perekop.

The Crimean peninsula as a base and strategic bridgehead for the revival of the White movement was weak. Unlike the Kuban and Don, Little Russia and New Russia, Siberia and even the North (with its huge reserves of weapons, ammunition and ammunition in Arkhangelsk and Murmansk), Crimea had insignificant resources. There was no military industry, developed agriculture and other resources. The absence of ammunition, bread, gasoline, coal, horse-drawn personnel, and weapons assistance from the Allies made the defense of the Crimean bridgehead unpromising.

Due to refugees, evacuated white troops and rear institutions, the population of the peninsula doubled, reaching a million people. Crimea could barely feed so many people on the brink of hunger. Therefore, in the winter and spring of 1920, Crimea was struck by the food and fuel crisis. A significant part of the refugees were women, children and the elderly. Again, a mass of healthy men (including officers) squandered life in the rear in the cities. They preferred to participate in all kinds of intrigues, arrange a feast during the plague, but did not want to go to the front lines. As a result, the army did not have a human reserve. There were no horses for the cavalry.

Thus, white Crimea was not a serious threat to Soviet Russia. Wrangel, who did not want peace with the Bolsheviks, had to figure out the possibilities of a new evacuation. The option of deploying troops with the help of allies to one of the existing fronts of the war with Soviet Russia was considered. To Poland, the Baltic states or the Far East. It was also possible to take the White Army to one of the neutral countries in the Balkans so that the Whites could have a rest, restore ranks, arm themselves and then could take part in a new Western war against Soviet Russia. A significant part of the White Guards hoped to just sit out in Crimea in anticipation of a new large-scale uprising of the Cossacks in the Kuban and Don or the outbreak of the Entente war against the Bolsheviks. As a result, a change in the military-political situation led to the decision to maintain the Crimean bridgehead.

"New Deal" Wrangel


Wrangel, having gained power on the peninsula, proclaimed a "new course", which, in fact, due to the absence of any new program, was an audit of the policies of the Denikin government. At the same time, Wrangel abandoned the main slogan of the Denikin government - “a united and indivisible Russia”. He hoped to create a wide front of the enemies of Bolshevism: from the right to the anarchists and separatists. He called for building a federal Russia. Recognized the independence of the highlanders of the North Caucasus. However, such a policy did not bring success.

Wrangel was never able to agree with Poland on common actions against Soviet Russia, although he tried to be flexible in the matter of future borders. Attempts to plan general operations did not go further than talk, despite the desire of the French to bring the Poles and the White Guards closer. Obviously, the point is the nearsightedness of the Pilsudski regime. Pans hoped for the restoration of the Commonwealth within the borders of 1772 and did not trust the whites - as Russian patriots. Warsaw believed that the fierce battle between the whites and the reds so weakened Russia that the Poles themselves could take whatever they want. Therefore, Warsaw does not need an alliance with Wrangel.

With Petliura, Wrangel also could not conclude an alliance. Only spheres of influence and theaters of operations in Ukraine were identified. The Wrangel government promised the UPR full autonomy. At the same time, the Petliurites no longer had their territory, their army was created by the Poles and was the fruit of their complete control. The baron also promised the complete autonomy of all Cossack lands, but these promises could not attract allies. Firstly, there was no serious force behind the Black Baron. Secondly, the war has already exhausted the same Cossacks, they wanted peace. It is worth noting that if the Wrangels won in an alternative reality, then Russia would face a new collapse. If the Bolsheviks in one way or another led to the restoration of the integrity of the state, then the victory of the White Guards led to a new collapse and colonial position of Russia.

In a desperate search for allies, White even tried to find a common language with Old Man Makhno. But here Wrangel was waiting for complete failure. The peasant leader of New Russia not only executed the Wrangel envoys, but also called on the peasantry to beat the White Guards. Other “green” chieftains in Ukraine willingly made an alliance with the baron, hoping for help with money and weapons, but there was no real power behind them. Negotiations with the leaders of the Crimean Tatars, who dreamed of their statehood, also failed. Some Crimean Tatar activists even suggested that Pilsudsky take Crimea under his own hand, giving the Tatars autonomy.

In May 1920, the Armed Forces of the South of Russia were reorganized into the Russian Army. The Baron hoped to attract not only officers and Cossacks, but also peasants. A broad agrarian reform was conceived for this. Its author was the head of the government of the South of Russia, Alexander Krivoshein, one of Stolypin's most prominent associates and participants in his agrarian reform. Peasants received land by dividing large estates for a fee (five times the average annual crop for a given area, 25-year installment plan was given to pay this amount). A large role in the implementation of the reform was played by volost zemstvos - local governments. The peasants generally supported the reform, but were in no hurry to join the army.


Wrangel is coming. To arms, proletarians! Poster of the artist N. M. Kochergin. 1920. In the center of the poster shows the sinister figure of General Wrangel, running in an attack with a saber naked. For Wrangel go on the offensive ranks of infantry and cavalry of the White Army. The Pointer to Tsaritsyn emphasizes the threat of the White Army reaching the lines at which it was at the time of greatest success in 1919.

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  1. Crowe 3 June 2020 06: 03 New
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    White Army, Black Baron
    They’re preparing the royal throne for us again
    But from the taiga to the British seas
    The Red Army is the strongest.

    So let the Red
    Compresses powerfully
    Your bayonet with a calloused hand
    And we all must
    Uncontrollably
    Go to the last mortal battle!

    They were crushed by bloodsuckers and bakers, and they are dear there. To Paris and Landon.
    1. Pessimist22 3 June 2020 06: 22 New
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      Unfortunately, the bourgeoisie now also exploits Russia and its people, for their own benefit.
      1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 07: 10 New
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        Unfortunately, the bourgeoisie now also exploits Russia and its people, for their own benefit.

        So wrong! am Uta bourgeoisie was the law on inequality of classes. There were noble classes and vile ones. The present bourgeoisie does not yet have such laws, but they dream of them for a long time and more and more every day.
        An example is the words of Chubais about the uninsigned, the words of Gref about education. Well, to the heap, the words of officials and deputies, which are constant.
        1. Pessimist22 3 June 2020 07: 29 New
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          But classes, that is, figures from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the prosecutor’s office, the judiciary, and officials of various ranks, they can be said to represent one “family,” they even perceive their “assaults” as personal insults, all of which are run by oligarchs and Putin with friends, and the rest, the proletariat, the exploited class of workers, peasants and others from the service sector, are simply now without official estates.
          1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 07: 44 New
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            Yes, there are classes and this division into classes is emphasized by those who consider themselves to be a higher class, as there is a deputy --- "" who made himself "".
            There are class contradictions, which means
            ......... everything will return as old. Night, icy ripples of the canal, pharmacy, street, lantern.
            1. bober1982 3 June 2020 07: 51 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              everything will return as old. Night, icy ripples of the canal, pharmacy, street, lantern.

              Literary critics saw in these lines a deep philosophical meaning, you can get fucked up both from the Block itself and critics.
              1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 08: 17 New
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                Quote: bober1982
                ....... Literary critics saw in these lines a deep philosophical meaning, you can get fucked up, ......
                You can, you can! It will happen soon wassat tongue
                1. bober1982 3 June 2020 08: 26 New
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                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  It will happen soon

                  Sometimes you sit in the room in the evening, shooting on the street, some fuss, - in a word, Russian reality.
                  A. Tolstoy
                  1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 08: 57 New
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                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    It will happen soon

                    Sometimes you sit in the room in the evening, shooting on the street, some fuss, - in a word, Russian reality.
                    A. Tolstoy

                    Actually, I meant to you personally
                    ..... you can fuck ...
                    lol bully
                    1. bober1982 3 June 2020 09: 29 New
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                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Actually, I meant

                      The person implies, Dmitry, and God disposes, we must constantly reflect on this.
                      You can sit and watch the flight of a fly, and think about what a wonderful world we live in.
                      And then, bam - and the sarcoma of the lungs.
                      1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 09: 41 New
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                        And what, will you discuss diseases now? This is --- to the Doctor!
          2. gsev 4 June 2020 00: 50 New
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            Quote: Pessimist22
            the oligarchs and Putin are leading it all

            Probably Putin and the oligarchs like Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky were among themselves the biggest enemies in Russia.
    2. bober1982 3 June 2020 07: 31 New
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      Quote: Crowe
      So let the Red
      Compresses powerfully
      Your bayonet with a calloused hand

      -With a squad of naval
      -Comrade Trotsky
      -We will lead to a mortal battle.
      In short, Bronstein led to the death battle of some Russian sheep, and other Russian sheep.
      And for what? For fanning the fire of the world.
      1. apro 3 June 2020 09: 46 New
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        Quote: bober1982
        In short, Bronstein led to the death battle of some Russian sheep, and other Russian sheep.
        And for what? For fanning the fire of the world.

        Yes, you have a high opinion of your compatriots ...
        So you think that all our ancestors were wrong. And they can be driven.
        And about the fire of the world to the place ... to protect my red ...
        1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 11: 26 New
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          Quote: apro
          .... Yes, you have a high opinion of your compatriots ...
          So you think that all our ancestors were wrong. And they can be driven.
          And about the fire of the world to the place ... to protect my red ...
          Thanks to Stalin, they began to defend their own. Therefore, they burned out this Trotskyism as best they could. Otherwise there would be no country
    3. Basil50 3 June 2020 07: 42 New
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      Thanks Crowe
      It is surprising that today they DO NOT WANT to believe that 80% of the population of tsarist RUSSIA periodically experienced HUNGER in the twentieth century. How many people died at the same time statistics are only very approximate ..
      And how many children survived to 15 years?
      Whereas in the USA, there was racial segregation in the USA, in the RUSSIAN EMPIRE what was today smoothly called * social racism *.
      In the provincial cities there were streets where the peasants had no move. In the press of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE there is the designation * vile estate * in relation to peasants and workers.
      A lot has been written about how the White fought against * their * people, but that was exactly how the Nazis fought. But even against their background Cossacks stood out with atrocities.
      It saved both the nobles and the Cossacks that * RUSSIAN PEOPLE DO NOT PUNISH FOR VIOLENCE *.
      So these apologists of the * white movement * bred, and even * the Cossacks * divorced uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. And all with royal shoulder straps with monograms and a bunch of awards that hang each other.
      At the same time, idiots do not understand that in any estate * only the king can * enter *.
      1. Pessimist22 3 June 2020 08: 01 New
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        Well, in 90 percent of the nobility and the opinion of the lower class, that is, peasants do not take us into account, thanks to the Communists for free education and for the fact that we can easily distinguish between idiots and lackeys of the bourgeoisie.
        1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 09: 25 New
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          Quote: Pessimist22
          Well, in 90 percent of the nobility and the opinion of the lower class, that is, peasants do not take us into account, thanks to the Communists for free education and for the fact that we can easily distinguish between idiots and lackeys of the bourgeoisie.

          Well, somehow you exaggerated, in my opinion request
          Although noticeable, ---- 100 years after the revolution, suddenly the number of descendants of nobles in the Russian Federation increased sharply! laughing If, according to the census of the Republic of Ingushetia, 1,5% of the nobles of the entire population are reported. Of these, 53% are Russian, 28,6% Polish, 5,9% Georgian, 5,3% Tatar, 3,4% Lithuanian, 2,4% German.
          And now there’s only talk of “noble” ancestors. Suddenly they somehow all turned out to be
        2. Uncle Vanya Susanin 3 June 2020 11: 22 New
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          "Well, in 90 percent of the nobility and the opinion of the lower class, that is, we are not considered peasants ..."
          Now it was very funny now lol
      2. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 08: 12 New
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        Believe, do not believe in hunger ..... Bullshit .... This is not a matter of faith! A question of knowledge! If, according to the census of the Republic of Ingushetia, the average life expectancy of 30 years is recorded. And why chat ---- not believe? Why would Tolstoy write his HUNGER. Not to mention the statistics of the hungry years.
        And an example, How many years did Tolstoy live? Long life was ---- privilege of the rich.
        1. alebor 3 June 2020 09: 55 New
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          census of the Republic of Ingushetia recorded average life expectancy of 30 years
          In the XIX century, there was a very high infant mortality rate, according to statistics, more than half per 1000 deaths - 649 people were those who did not reach 15 years of age. But the cause of high mortality was not hunger, but illness. Even in noble families, small children died quite often.
          1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 11: 22 New
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            In 26-27gg the average life expectancy of 42g was recorded. After REV, 1MV, GV, intervention.
            Quote: alebor
            census of the Republic of Ingushetia recorded average life expectancy of 30 years
            In the XIX century, there was a very high infant mortality rate, according to statistics, more than half per 1000 deaths - 649 people were those who did not reach 15 years of age. But the cause of high mortality was not hunger, but illness. Even in noble families, small children died quite often.

            Someone here cited the words of Russian doctors of the time that in RI the disease rates are higher than in Europe, because there is hunger and insufficient nutrition.
        2. Uncle Vanya Susanin 3 June 2020 11: 23 New
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          And with all this, the population was growing!
          1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 11: 30 New
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            Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
            And with all this, the population was growing!

            Yes. In the 20x, an increase of 3 million.
            1. Uncle Vanya Susanin 3 June 2020 11: 58 New
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              Yeah, in 1900 - almost 133 million, and in
              1913 - 159 million
        3. Olgovich 3 June 2020 13: 37 New
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          Quote: Reptiloid
          Believe, do not believe in hunger ..... Bullshit .... This is not a matter of faith! A question of knowledge! If the census of the Republic of Ingushetia recorded an average duration life 30 years. And why chat ---- not believe? Why would Tolstoy write his HUNGER. Not to mention the statistics of the hungry years.

          Know:
          The average life expectancy at birth in Ukraine, calculated on the basis of the mortality rates of 1933, was only 11,3 years for men and 14,8 years for women http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2008/0327/tema01.php


          And here is Tolstoy 1933 from the NKVD:
          YEY DISTRICT. Village Dolzhanskaya - 22 / II gr. G. **** used eating the corpse of the dead sister's owl.

          In the same village, it was established that group D *** remained after the death of his father and mother with young sisters and brothers ate the meat of brothers and sisters who died of starvation.

          St. Novo-Scherbinovskaya. In the 3rd brigade of the collective farm, wife E *** hacked and with "ate her 3 year old child, E *** family consists of 8 people who eat various surrogates (surepa, silo, etc.) and meat of cats and dogs.

          The cemetery found up to 30 corpses thrown out during the night, part of the corpses bitten by dogs. The corpse of the collective farmer REZNIK was cut in half, without legs, and several coffins were found there, from which the corpses disappeared.

          In the 3rd brigade, wife C *** drags the corpses of children from the cemetery and eats them. A search of the apartment and interrogation of S *** children revealed that several corpses were taken from the cemetery for food.
          A girl’s corpse was found in the apartment with her legs cut off and boiled meat was found.

          Show SUCH in Russia.

          But with the so-called "people's" power of such documents THOUSAND!

          That's the whole story!
      3. antivirus 3 June 2020 08: 28 New
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        still there is memory - in Ivanovo there is Gromoboya St.
      4. Olgovich 3 June 2020 13: 25 New
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        Quote: Vasily50
        It is surprising that today they DO NOT WANT believe that 80% of the population of tsarist RUSSIA and in the twentieth century periodically experienced HUNGER. How many people died statistics are only very approximate ..

        only frank Turak will believe in this NON-GIRL.

        We must not believe, but knowFacts, research, the history of their country.

        Even the Soviet scientists did not write this nonsense about starvation mortality in Russia in the 20th century, they were ashamed. But not to you.

        But about the multimillion-dollar starvation mortality and cannibalism under the so-called In 1921,22,24,25,28,31,32,33,37,46,47 the "people's" authorities knew and wrote everything, even though this authority hid all traces.

        Remember that in several months of PEACEFUL 1932-33, many more people died from hunger than for several years of world war!.
  2. Olgovich 3 June 2020 07: 20 New
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    It is worth noting that if the Wrangels won in an alternative reality, then Russia would face a new collapse. If the Bolsheviks in one way or another led to the restoration of the integrity of the state, then the victory of the White Guards led to a new collapse and colonial position of Russia.

    Worth a look, finally. at the WINDOW, and see what fell apart in the reality.

    White power Russia grew at a tremendous pace continuously for THOUSAND years, as its Russian people grew the same way.

    The next regime tore Russia into 32 states, erased the name "Russia" from the world map and completely decomposed in just a few decades, leaving behind the remnants of Russia without 5 million km2 of its territories and the dying Russian people.

    therefore, Pyotr Nikolaevich did everything right. trying to save Russia from this imminent horror.

    A volunteer, a front-line soldier who fought for the Fatherland on the fronts of the RVE and VET, was awarded many times, the St. George Knight, fought for Russia to the end.

    Characteristic of Wrangel by his commander: "Outstanding courage."

    all life, every day, she worked and served Russia and in Russia. Decent man

    And to compare it with the following regimes: foreign tourists who have never worked anywhere as lobsters, cowards who fled from the front abroad, traitors who called for the victory of the invaders and brought by these invaders to their homeland, giving the occupiers a third of the Heb. parts of Russia. So these territories remained outside of Russia (see the box).
    These are just facts.

    Monument to Peter Nikolaevich in Crimea.
    1. Aviator_ 3 June 2020 08: 05 New
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      Monument to Peter Nikolaevich in Crimea.

      He has not been soaked yet?
      1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 09: 10 New
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        hi Hello, Sergey.
        Quote: Aviator_
        Monument to Peter Nikolaevich in Crimea.

        He has not been soaked yet?

        Even Peter I got these myrrh streams and he threatened that if the icons didn’t stop crying in oil, the priests' backsides would cry with blood. (At that time, corporal punishment was prohibited for priests.) As a result, the “cry” icons ceased.
        This example was often cited in various atheistic publications of the last century. And if you look, in the Public Library, 7 t. "" The Acts of Peter the Great, the Wise Transformer of Russia "", then everything will be recognized on this topic! Myrrh-streams ceased as a result. It did not reach the punishment of priests.
        1. bober1982 3 June 2020 10: 59 New
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          Even Petr1 got these myrrh streams and he threatened that if the icons didn’t stop crying in oil, then the backsides of the priests would pay with blood

          Dmitry, why are you misleading?
          About priests' asses that will pay with blood is a pure invention of evil atheists. None of which documents, including Acts, says anything about this.
          We must pay tribute to Peter Alekseevich, he correctly exposed the deception with the myrrh-streaming icon, personally, like a silly "miracle"
          On the whole, the appearance of angels, the streaming of icons, prophetic dreams, etc., must be treated very carefully. You should not blaspheme, but you should not believe it either.
          By the way, Peter the Great was pious, strangely enough as it may seem, given that he received the name antichrist in his lifetime, but he never, ......
          Quote: Reptiloid
          and he threatened that if the icons didn’t stop crying in oil

          It was in this case, the king threatened the deceivers, he then found them and punished them.
          1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 11: 12 New
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            Vladimir, why are you pretending to be a forbidden word? I clearly wrote --- it was so in the Soviet atheist reference books, and I rejoiced at the petty ones. And why are these evil atheists? Atheists believe so. And then these directories left home somewhere. You can find out exactly in the 7th volume. It says about the holes in the icons that PETR1 found and was angry. Search engine to help.
            1. bober1982 3 June 2020 11: 30 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              It says about the holes in the icons that PETR1 found and was angry

              Yes, I found these holes, everything is correct, but nothing is said about the bloody asses.
              As it is customary to say in creative circles, this is fake.
              1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 11: 42 New
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                I kind of answered you? laughing why repeat the same thing? Or do you want to talk about kings and churches? I would return to the old information that you know, but I'm not at home, it is difficult to answer .....
                1. bober1982 3 June 2020 12: 34 New
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                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Or do you want to talk about kings and churches?

                  You spread fables about priests yourself, but you reproach me.
        2. Aviator_ 3 June 2020 19: 24 New
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          Hi Dmitry! It was necessary to tell this historical example to N. Poklonskaya, in whom not so long ago the bust of Nicholas II was streamed.
          1. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 19: 48 New
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            Hi Dmitry! It was necessary to tell this historical example to N. Poklonskaya, in whom not so long ago the bust of Nicholas II was streamed.

            I don’t even know, Sergey request recourse it is not known how I would give this historical example .........
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              So Peter the Great has long been gone, Poklonskaya has nothing to fear.
      2. Olgovich 3 June 2020 09: 39 New
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        He has not been soaked yet?

        This is what you need for the mummy-object of many years of experiments on it (96 years already!). yes
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          But N. Poklonskaya recently busted Mykola II the second myrrh-streaked - or are you against the statement of the former prosecutor of Crimea, extremely loving the last Russian emperor? Are you a monarchist against the sanctity of Nicholas?
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            This icon from somewhere she urgently delivered by plane. So they wrote on the network. Some kind of special icon. Maybe Beaver knows about this and tells us?
            Quote: Aviator_
            But N. Poklonskaya recently busted Mykola II the second myrrh-streaked - or are you against the statement of the former prosecutor of Crimea, extremely loving the last Russian emperor? Are you a monarchist against the sanctity of Nicholas?

            I wonder why it is the latter that must be extremely loved? Unclear wassat
            1. Aviator_ 3 June 2020 21: 03 New
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              Believing women have strange quirks. This is about love. Again, I only know about the myrrh-streaming bust of the emperor. And what, is the icon also?
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                I thought that meant that this icon was myrrh streaming. Which she carried when the Immortal regiment. Probably in 2015.
                But I don’t know anything about the bust. request because I wrote above
                ....how would I give this example ....
                .And it was unclear where the icon was, and where the bust. And the word is incomprehensible
                ......recently.....
                . Although in the historical process 2015, recently. And you, Sergey, about what? What bust and when?
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                  Nobody pulled her tongue, she told television people several years ago that the bust of Nicholas II, installed in Simferopol by the prosecutor’s office, was streaming. I know about various such icons, but the myrrh-streaming of a stone bust is really something! At the level of humanoids and cymbals. Although the place is open, the birds fly ...
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                Quote: Aviator_
                Believing women have strange quirks. This is about love. Again, I only know about the myrrh-streaming bust of the emperor. And what, is the icon also?

                This is probably for us Olgovich and Beaver set cons. And this is wrong. If they know the details, they should have explained culturally, dignified and beautiful about all this. And about the drilling of holes, we ourselves know.
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                  And to hell with them, with minuses. Well, they like it, let them enjoy themselves.
      3. moreman78 4 June 2020 12: 02 New
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        Here it’s the same year as they are going to put a monument to the participants of the Wrangel landing -
        http://livinghistory.ru/topic/77113-100-letie-ulagaevskogo-desanta-na-kubani-i-gibeli-3/page-9
        Opening - August 2020!
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      But how are they so brave and clever profuca such a huge country?
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        But how are they so brave and clever profuca such a huge country?

        Met such an explanation ----- impotence of power --- ssss am
    3. Sugar Honeyovich 3 June 2020 10: 12 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      see THAT collapsed in reality.

      When the real whites were in power.
      Quote: Olgovich
      lobotryas, cowards who fled from the front abroad, traitors, calling for the victory of the invaders and brought by these invaders to their homeland, giving the occupiers a third of the Heb. parts of Russia.

      And most importantly - actively supported in large numbers in the homeland ... wink
    4. Sergey S. 3 June 2020 10: 48 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Monument to Peter Nikolaevich in Crimea.

      I hope it does not last long.
      The real patriots of Russia will understand the history of the Fatherland, and rebels against the people will receive a final assessment and oblivion.

      If in 1917 it was necessary to understand ...
      If in 1918 it was necessary to choose fate ...
      If in 1919, with the calling of the colonialists from the Entente, all the conscious stood up to defend the Motherland ....
      Then in 1920, even former, but conscious officers, enlisted in the Red Army to repel the Polish panam ...
      The baron did not understand anything in Russian history ...
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        Quote: Sergey S.
        I hope it does not last long.

        You hoped for socialism, then for communism .... And?lol lol
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        If in 1919, with the calling of the colonialists from the Entente, all conscious

        Entente returned to the country that YOUR sold forever German occupiers

        Entente saved MILLIONS of dying from hunger, which was arranged by YOUR
        Quote: Sergey S.
        The baron did not understand anything in Russian history ...

        he served Russia, which YOURS destroyed from 1917 to 1991 and left horns and legs from it — on the MAP take a look — these are YOUR achievements. Like demography.

        Shame ...
        Bankrupt.
        1. Sergey S. 3 June 2020 17: 11 New
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          The Entente has returned to the country what YOUR sold forever to the German occupiers

          Entente saved MILLIONS of dying from hunger, which was arranged by YOUR

          For the sake of simplicity, I thought that you profess the views of Russian nationalists, a little illiterate, but frank and fairly honest people.
          I had the misfortune to talk with nationalists, and if these are not their leaders, these are just sane interested people who kindly invoke their campaign.
          But what to do with the glorification of the Entente ????
          What you write can be understood only in one single case, if you are presented at the computer at the office of Radio Liberty or the Russian BBC Service.
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            Quote: Sergey S.
            For the sake of simplicity, I thought that you profess the views of Russian nationalists, a little illiterate, but frank and fairly honest people.
            I had the misfortune to talk with nationalists, and if these are not their leaders, these are just sane interested people who kindly invoke their campaign.
            But what to do with the glorification of the Entente ????
            What you write can be understood only in one single case, if you are presented at the computer at the office of Radio Liberty or the Russian BBC Service.

            What to do?

            READ more and learn the History of their Fatherland.

            Not that lying stupid agitation from a nonexistent reality that you taught in a school, but this.

            And then you will find out that it was the Entente that abolished your betrayal in Brest, and it was the world, including the Entente countries, that saved millions of dying during your famine of 21-22 g and the most terrible famine in the history of mankind in the peaceful 32-33 g created by yours Faithful, etc., etc.

            It's just FACTS
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          Shame ...
          Bankrupt.

          Wrangel seems to have recognized the Polish border along the Dnieper. What makes you think that he was going to recapture Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Karelia, Moldova, the Baltic states from the separatists? Denikin stabbed in the back of the Red Army when it began to liberate the Western regions of Russia from the German invaders and their puppets such as Ukrainian Hauptman hetman. Approaching Stalingrad, Wrangel interacted with the Astrakhan army, a tool of German interests.
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            Quote: gsev
            Wrangel seems to have recognized the Polish border along the Dnieper.

            And you cross yourself.
            Quote: gsev
            u, Moldova, the Baltic states of the separatists?

            what sparatists in Moldova, what are you talking about?

            Bessarabia is OCCUPIED by Romania, ignoramus.

            and before she announced the entry of Russia, and it is AFTER a thief!
            Quote: gsev
            Denikin stabbed in the back of the Red Army when it began to liberate the Western regions of Russia from the German invaders and their puppets such as Ukrainian Hauptman hetman

            different Russophobes agreed with the same Russophobes Poles and concluded a truce in order to jointly stop the liberation of Moscow from the bandits.

            Quote: gsev
            Treading on Stalingrad Wrangel interacted with the Astrakhan army, a tool of German interests.


            Vrvngel on ... Stalingrad! belay lol

            This is how much to drink!
            1. gsev 4 June 2020 17: 36 New
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              Wrangel seems to have recognized the Polish border along the Dnieper.

              And you cross yourself.

              And why do you think Wrangel did not try to cross the right bank of the Dnieper and allowed the Reds to calmly organize the Kakhovsky bridgehead? As far as I know, because with Pilsudsky I shared a single and indivisible Russia along the Dnieper.
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          Yes, you old man is just a stupid liar! Entente he saved millions .. Ugh ..
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            Yes, you old man is just a stupid liar! Entente saved millions from him ..

            Mil. man, to MARCH!
            The cunning usurpers who led to cannibalism and famine Russia, the only country fed up with WWI. in the summer of 1921 they turned to the world for help.
            And help was provided.
            ARA - American Relief Organization, organized in 1919 on behalf of President of America Woodrow Wilson to help the hungry

            December 22, 1921 US Congress - approved the allocation of $ 20 million to purchase products from American farmers to help the Soviets.


            Help from the USA, England. France, Denmark. Sweden and even Germany, etc., were saved by MILLIONS of people brought to starvation by the power of people.

            and someone ... denies it ..

            What abomination negative ....
  3. Reptiloid 3 June 2020 08: 02 New
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    .....REMEMBER
    REMEMBER
    hungry look
    Desktop
    and the Red Army!

    Here
    Who
    in the cold
    in typhoid,
    war
    sent by the world
    for bread and peace.
    Right here
    huts fist
    doubly
    swim with wheat fat.
    Who leads us to battle
    isn't it love?
    LET DO NOT SHAKE AT THE BATTLE OF THE HEART.
    Sleep peacefully, poor roofs ...
    Peace to the huts!
    WAR OF THE PALACE!
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      This is a passage. A. Bezymensky, 1923 edition
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    In analyzing the historical events of that time, the class approach is the only true one, for the civil war basically had a class conflict. Wrangel associates tried to regain the rights and privileges of their society, accustomed to the crunch of French rolls, while not studying the works of the classics of Marxism-Leninism, which ultimately turned into defeat and emigration. There is no sympathy for them and cannot be.
  5. apro 3 June 2020 08: 11 New
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    As the author of Wrangel did not lick. His case was lost ... and with it the special Russian path of social racism, religious obscurantism, the weakness of the Russian ruling class ...
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      Quote: apro
      As the author of Wrangel did not lick. His case was lost ... and with it the special Russian path of social racism, religious obscurantism, the weakness of the Russian ruling class ...

      Licked it? Or maybe not? After all, the placed portrait of Wrangel is eloquent
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    the most prominent associates of Stolypin and participants in his agrarian reform. Peasants received land by dividing large estates for a fee (five times the average annual yield for a given area, 25-year installment plan was given to pay this amount)

    - With the reform late for 20 years, the sentence is given .... and not subject to appeal
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      Peasants received land through the division of large estates for a fee

      The meaning of the Stolypin reform was to seat on the people's neck, in addition to the decrepit parasite landowner, a new bloodthirsty parasite: the fist. That is, a more capable and successful peasant got the opportunity to allocate his inheritance, to grow it at the expense of the inheritance of the ruined peasants who left for the city. It was supposed that such a fist could provide the state with marketable bread for export abroad and exploit its farm laborers more efficiently than the old landowners. Have you read The Cherry Orchard? It shows the prerequisites of the Stolypin reforms. The struggle between the Stolypin-reformers and the Russian peasants ended in the summer of 1917 with the pogrom of landowners all over Russia and the design of this pogrom with a shot of Aurora and a replica of Anatoly Grigoryevich Zheleznyakov "The guard was tired."
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    The revolution (although revolution is a process) and civil war + repressions had a biological component, according to the results the main thing is probably obtained. The old elite, including with the "old" Bolsheviks. There are memoirs where a person coming to Russia at certain intervals describes how the genotype of officials changed. Our so-called new elite is far from a monolithic caste from the point of view of biology, so before the adult revolution, it was still 400 years old. In general, this turns out to be a normal biological process of nation self-cleaning, for rebooting. Naturally dead people are sorry, but a civil war was inevitable, because the elite did not have the mind to decide on a good land issue, and the lack of mind is a sign of degeneration. For all large nations, this periodically happens in one form or another. And the fact that the territories have not been lost before evening, wait and see ... My ancestors burned the estate of the landowner, my father said that he had found pieces of dishes in the garden.
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      As a result of various events that took place in the young Soviet state, some literature, periodicals --- were seized, destroyed. Well, and repression took place. I have the impression that an intentional simplification is happening now. I try to read about that time, including and reprints and also some kind of thoughts about biological purification came
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      repressions had a biological component

      An interesting idea ... and somewhere I even agree. A person is a biological object. And he exists according to the biological laws of his species.
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    The wrangel enemy because of him the civil war still lasted six months, taking many more lives