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Great confectioners of the twentieth century

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In this article we will begin the story of the famous condottieres of the twentieth century and the amazing African adventures of the "wild geese" and "soldier of fortune". Among them were soldiers of the French Foreign Legion, who in the second half of the twentieth century found a new area of ​​application for their talents.


“We are no longer your monkeys”


This история It dates back to June 30, 1960, when a new state was formed on the territory of the former Belgian Congo - the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). At the independence ceremony, Patrice Lumumba said, addressing the King of Belgium Baudouin: "We are no longer your monkeys." A phrase that just kills with its spontaneity and is completely unthinkable at the present time.

Great confectioners of the twentieth century

Congo Declaration of Independence: King of Belgium, Baudouin, resembling the Latin American dictator, next to DRC President Kasavubu and Prime Minister Lumumba

In our country, when they hear the word “colonizer,” they usually represent an Englishman in a cork helmet and shorts, an African-beating man, bent under the weight of a bag. Or a soldier from this photo:


But even the British considered the French stupid and narrow-minded racists:


Frenchman in Africa

However, the Belgians, perhaps, surpassed everyone: they were pathologically cruel - to the point of caricature.


African subjects of the Belgian king Leopold II


Caricature of Leopold II (XIX century)

But look what paradise pictures of life in the Congo were painted by the Belgians themselves (propaganda poster, 1920s):


Meanwhile, workers on the rubber plantations of the Belgian Congo were dying faster than in the concentration camps of Nazi Germany. The Belgians used to oversee the Negroes with other Africans who cut off the hands of the negligent workers. They then sent them to the Belgian colonial officials as a progress report. As a result, the population of the Congo from 1885 to 1908. decreased from 20 to 10 million people. And in 1960, there were as many as 17 university graduates in all of Congo ... for 17 million local residents. Three of them held small administrative posts (the remaining 4997 vacancies were held by the Belgians).

Later it turned out that the Congo also has rich deposits of copper, cobalt, uranium, cadmium, tin, gold and silver, and the Belgian province of Katanga, the Belgian Jules Cornet, who conducted mineral resources research at the end of the 11th century, called it “geological sensation”. And the Belgians were not going to give up their economic interests in the Congo. French and British companies, also active in Katanga, were in solidarity with the Belgians, so on July 1960, XNUMX, the governor of this province, Moise Chombe (and part-time prince of the African people Lund) announced her withdrawal from the DRC.


Moise Tshombe

In a confrontation with the central authorities, he decided to bet on the Belgian officers remaining in the Congo, as well as on the “mercenaries” - mercenaries, whom the Katanga newspapers modestly (but proudly) called Affreux - “Terrible”.

Belgium, France and the United Kingdom did not dare to recognize the new state, but provided Chombe with all kinds of assistance.


Katanga rebels, 1960

And then the province of Kasai declared independence.


The Democratic Republic of the Congo literally fell to pieces, ended with a military coup of the Chief of General Staff Mobutu (a former sergeant who immediately became a colonel), the assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba (who had previously sought help from the USSR) and UN intervention, which sent an entire army to the Congo. This conflict was also complicated by the crash when landing in the city of Ndola (currently part of Zambia) aircraft, which was the UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld (September 18, 1961). Investigation of the circumstances of the disaster involved six commissions. Finally, in 2011, experts came to the conclusion that the plane was still shot down. In January 2018, a statement was issued by the Belgian paratrooper P. Copens, in which he claimed that his compatriot Jan Van Riessegem, who was flying the Majister training jet train converted into a light attack aircraft, made the attack. Riessegem then served in the troops of the unrecognized republic of Katanga.

But let's not get ahead.

French pastry chefs


In 1961, French Minister of Defense Pierre Messmer sent two very interesting men to Katanga: the current officer of the Foreign Legion Roger Fulck and former Navy Major Gilbert Bourgeau, who were led by thousands of “volunteers” (among them there were many former legionnaires and legionnaires vacationers) took charge of European mining and chemical companies in Leopoldville (now Kinshasa). Fulk and Bourgeois did not suspect then that they would become one of the most famous and successful confectioners of world history, and one of them would also be famous for creating the famous mercenary recruitment company, known as the "Soldiers of Fortune".

Roger Fulk


This "brigade" was led by Captain (later Colonel) Roger Faulques, who was called the "Man of a Thousand Lives", and later became the prototype of the characters of Jean Lartegi's books Centurions, Praetorians, and Hounds of Hell.

Like many other officers of the Foreign Legion, Fulk was an active member of the French Resistance, after the allies landed, served in parts of Free France, receiving at the age of 20 the rank of corporal and Military Cross (Croix de guerre).


Roger Fulk in his youth


Croix de guerre

After the war ended, Fulk, in the rank of super-lieutenant, entered the Third Regiment of the Foreign Legion. Then he ended up in Indochina - already with the rank of lieutenant: he fought as part of the First Parachute Battalion, where at that time the still-famous Pierre-Paul Janpierre was serving. For the first time, Fulk was wounded in 1948, and during the battle at Khao Bang (1950) he received four injuries at once and lay in the forest for three days until he was discovered by Vietnamese fighters. As a seriously wounded (actually dying), he was transferred to the French side. Fulk was awarded the Order of the Legion of Honor, he was treated for a long time and still returned to duty - already in Algeria, where he was subordinate to his old friend Janpierre, becoming the scout of the First Parachute Regiment. Under the leadership of Fulk, several underground cells of the TNF were defeated.

Bob Denard


Another commander of the "vacationers" was Gilbert Bourgeois - also partisan during the Second World War and a veteran of Indochina. He was much better known as Robert (Bob) Denard.


He was born in China in 1929 - then his father, an officer of the French army, was in the service there. He spent his childhood in Bordeaux. Since 1945, Denard served in Indochina, in 1956 (at the age of 27!) He was already a major. But he was "asked" from the army after he, pretty much taking on his chest, crushed the bar: he decided that he was treated with insufficient respect there. He went to Morocco and Tunisia, served in the military police, and then became a member of the OAS and was arrested on suspicion of preparing an assassination attempt on French Prime Minister Pierre Mendes-France, spent 14 months in prison.

In an interview with the Izvestia newspaper, which G. Zotov took from him in 2002 (he later called this conversation the main journalistic success of his life), Denard said:

“Very often I found myself in a situation: if I do not kill, they will kill me ... And then there is no choice left. But never in my life have I shot a woman or a child. The same applies to revolutions: I did not commit them on my own whim, it was work. ”

Somehow I immediately recall the "immortal" line:

"Knife and ax workers,
Romantics from the high road. "

So, Roger Fulk and his people then became subordinate to Tshomba.


Soldiers of Fulka, Katanga, 1961

And later, having parted with Fulk, Denard led his own battalion - "Commando-6."

Mike Hoar and the Wild Geese


Around the same time, Thomas Michael Hoar arrived at Chomba.

Michael Hoar was an Irish born in India (Calcutta) on March 17, 1919. Shortly before the outbreak of World War II, he entered the "London Regiment of Irish Riflemen", in which he quickly became a shooting instructor. In January 1941, he was sent to study at a military school in Droibic, the certification issued to him by the commander at the time read: “Strong-willed and aggressive character”.

At the end of 1941, Hoar with the rank of second lieutenant was sent to the 2nd reconnaissance regiment of the 2nd Infantry Division, which in April 1942 was sent to act against Japan. Hoar fought in Burma (Arakan campaign, December 1942-May 1943) and in India (Kohima, April 4 - June 22, 1944). He served in the long-range reconnaissance group of Brigadier General Ferguson, ended the war at the headquarters of the British troops in Delhi, at which time he was 26 years old, and he was already a major.


Michael Hoar, 1944

Demobilized, he received a diploma in bookkeeping, and in 1948 he moved to South Africa, in the city of Durban. He lived well: he led a yacht club, arranged a safari for wealthy clients, and traveled. He also visited Congo: he was looking for the son of an oligarch from South Africa who was missing in the jungle. At the head of a small detachment, he then boldly moved the unknown distances of Africa. And in one of the villages called Kalamatadi, he found a young man ... half eaten by cannibals. To make the customer pleasant, Hoar ordered the destruction of the cannibal village.

As you know, a person with such abilities and with such a character needed a lot more adrenaline than he could get in Durban. And therefore, at the beginning of 1961 he ended up in Katanga, where he headed the Commando-4 division. Why is "4"? This connection was the fourth in a row that Michael had commanded in his life. In total, 500 white mercenaries and over 14 thousand Africans were then under Hoar’s command. Among the first soldiers of Hoar there were many lumpen, he himself recalled:

“There were too many alcoholics, rowdy people and parasites who weren’t hired anywhere ... There were cases of homosexuality.”

But Hoar quickly put things in order, eliminating the most worthless and training the rest. The discipline in his units was always on top, and the methods of upbringing are simple and effective: with a pistol grip on the head for bickering, and once he personally shot one of his subordinates, who was very fond of playing football, his big toes as a punishment for raping a local the girls.

Much more famous was another Hoar battalion - "Commando 5", or "Wild Geese": in medieval Ireland they called mercenaries, and Hoar, as we recall, was Irish.

For this unit, Hoar even compiled a set of 10 rules: in addition to the usual military manuals (such as “always clean and protect your weapon"), There were such:" Pray to God every day "and" Be proud of your appearance, even in battle; shave every day. "

And the tenth rule was as follows: "Be aggressive in battle, noble in victory, stubborn in defense."

Preserved information about the "salary" of the first "Wild Geese" in the Congo: ordinary received 150 pounds a month, 2 pounds a day for pocket expenses, 5 pounds a day during the fighting. In the future, the payment for their “work” increased: at the conclusion of the contract for six months, they received (depending on the position and intensity of hostilities) from 364 to 1100 dollars a month.


Mike Hoare (left) with his personal bodyguard Sergeant Donald Grant in 1964

The most famous “goose” of this battalion was Siegfried Muller (Congo-Muller), a participant in World War II on the side of the Third Reich, who later wrote the book “Modern Mercenaries”, essays “Modern Warfare” and “Fighting in the Congo”.


The first "volunteers" of the "Wild Geese" squad. With a sheet of paper in his hands - Siegfried Muller

On the basis of his recollections in the GDR, the film "Commando 52" was banned in the Federal Republic of Germany. And then the East Germans also shot the film "The Man Who Laughs", in which his former colleagues told about Muller. This film got its name because of the "company" smile, which became Müller's "calling card":


Müller was called "Prussian", "Landsknecht of imperialism", "executioner with experience" and "former SS man" (although he had nothing to do with the SS), and his character was "a collection of bad features of the German nation", but he proudly called himself "The last protector of the white West."

However, some consider him only a shame and a talented "self-PR man" who created a myth about himself - a heroic legend in which he appears as a true Aryan, an ideal mercenary and a super-soldier. And all his “iron crosses” and jeeps decorated with human skulls are called props and decorations of a vulgar operetta.


Siegfried Muller in Congo

In fact, Muller Hoar did not seem to justify hopes: he was appointed platoon commander, he was soon transferred to the post of chief of the rear base.

black Jack


The Belgian (more precisely, the Flemish) Jean Schramm (also known as Black Jack) ended up in Katanga, who lived in the Congo from the age of 14. In the “best years” on its huge plantation (its area was 15 square kilometers), more than a thousand Africans worked near Stenvilleville.


Jean shramm

Everything changed in 1960, when this plantation was devastated by supporters of Patrice Lumumba. A scar that had nothing to do with military affairs and did not serve in the army, leading a self-defense detachment, “partized” in the jungle for a while, and then created the “black and white” battalion “Leopard”, or “Commando-10”, in which Europeans served as officers and ordinary Kansimba blacks. Thus, Jean Schramm became the most famous and successful layman among all the commanders of hired detachments. In 1967, his name will boom throughout the world, and for a short moment, Jean Schramm will become known to Mike Hoare and Bob Denard.

The Comandante Tattoo and the Simba Movement


And in 1965, Congo was also visited by black Cubans led by a certain “commando Tatu” - to help comrades from the revolutionary movement “Simba” (“Lions”), led by former Minister of Education and Art Pierre Mulele.


Pierre Mulele

Particularly frostbitten “lions” were teenagers 11-14 years old (youths) who practiced cannibalism, whose cruelty knew no bounds.

And Mr. Mulele, whom some European liberals then called the Black Messiah, Lincoln Congo and “the best son of Africa”, was not just a former minister, but also a “new school” shaman — trained in China with a Maoist and pseudo-Marxist bias (very fashionable in Africa at that time). He declared the murdered Lumumba a saint who should be worshiped in specially constructed shrines, and generously gave his adherents a potion of mugangs (local sorcerers) “dava”, making them invulnerable. According to him, this drug worked flawlessly: it was only necessary not to be afraid and not to touch women. To convince his people of the effectiveness of the “dava,” he used a simple trick with the “shooting” with blank cartridges of the rebels who had drunk the potion (which, incidentally, were not dedicated to the Mulele’s venture, so the “volunteers” trembling with fear had to be tied up so as not to scatter). The funny thing is that the opponents of Simba also believed in the "magic water of Mulele", who often surrendered without a fight or retreated, because they believed that it made no sense to fight people who could not be killed.

The problems of the Simba rebels began when they encountered Belgian paratroopers attacking them as part of the Red Dragon operation in Stanleyville (Kisangani) and the white mercenaries of Mike Hoar. At first, the "invincible" simba were not even afraid aviation. Gustavo Ponsoa, the Cuban pilot of the Hoar squad, recalled:

"Some even waved to us a second before our missiles smashed them."

But let's not get ahead.


Simbs posing with weapons from World War II, photograph of Life magazine, February 12, 1965

Meanwhile, under the name of the mysterious "Commander Tatu" was hiding none other than Ernesto Che Guevara.


Che Guevara in Congo

This "romance of the revolution", in fact, is rather difficult to reproach with sympathy for blacks, and he did not even hear about political correctness and tolerance. His answer to the question of Cuban businessman Luis Pons “What actions is the revolution going to take to help blacks” became truly legendary:
“We are going to do for black the same thing that black did for the revolution, that is, nothing.”

What can I say: this Argentine was able to “formulate” and speak with aphorisms.

Miguel Sanchez recalled that in Mexico, in preparation for landing in Cuba, Che Guevara constantly called one of his associates (Juan Almedia) "Negro." It sounded insulting in his mouth, and Almedia hit it very hard. Sanchez advised him: “Listen, Juan, when Guevara calls you El Negro, call him in response El Chancho (pig).”

This technique worked: Che Guevara got rid of him and made no attempt to “remember” and somehow take revenge either then or later.

However, class solidarity is paramount. Che Guevara honestly tried to teach his African "brothers" at least something other than a fun massacre of all whom they could reach. But miracles do not happen, and the legendary commandant did not succeed. But more about that in the next article.

In general, you yourself understand: when all these talented, experienced and authoritative people appeared on the territory of the Congo, it was a sin for them not to fight there, and hostilities began very soon. We will talk about this in the next article.
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Ryzhov V. A. The most successful Russian “legionnaire”. Rodion Malinovsky
Ryzhov V. A. French Foreign Legion in the First and Second World Wars

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  1. vomag
    vomag 14 June 2020 06: 20
    +8
    I'm looking forward to it good
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 14 June 2020 07: 11
      +5
      You're right. It says so here that it’s straight * dumas, dad and son *.
      It is very convenient when euphemisms begin to play out instead of calling everything in your own words.
      So a pirate and a bandit becomes a corsair, you can already stage a ballet about a corsair. The pirate and the bandit gives away the words very much with blood and violence. What kind of romance can there be ?.
      A mercenary and a robber with a sadistic bias is a condottiere, and mysteriously and kind of gives it to the Italian noble. And why did the son of the pope himself in Italy call himself with his detachment.
      Today, and probably in the future, with the development of the media, euphemisms will drape the ugliness of reality. And there is already close to justification. No wonder that books about the * valor * of the Nazis began to appear in Germany. And along the way about the * atrocities * of the RED ARMY ...
      In Europe, the followers of Hitler already have lawsuits against the SOVIET UNION, against IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN, against the soldiers of the RED Army.
      It is enough just to name the Hitlerite somehow more harmonious and not worn out and you can ...., you can already do a lot. After all, he is now there * ..... * or * ,,,,,, * or even like .. (the thought of inserting).
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 June 2020 08: 11
        +1
        Quote: Vasily50
        It is very convenient when euphemisms begin to play out instead of calling everything in your own words.

        Armed robbery - expropriation.
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 14 June 2020 14: 24
        -3
        Quote: Vasily50
        Denmark is not far. No wonder that books about the * valor * of the Nazis began to appear in Germany. And along the way about the * atrocities * of the RED ARMY ...

        So the article is just for this. Remove from the pantheon some (our) heroes and put others (strangers). Today, these attempts seem ridiculous, but after 10 years?
        Look how VO imposes on us one article after another and everything about "alien heroes"
        There, the fortress fights better than the Brest one, and the weapons in the west are better, and swords with axes and planes with tanks. And the "foreign legion" are all "knights without fear or reproach."
        And we have hospital beds, in the worn-out year of 1960, in the city not 500, as it should be, but only 495 (guard !!!) the damned Bolsheviks brought the outstanding royal health care to! Well and so on - tuberculosis. syphilis, drug addiction and other cholera.
        The fact that in every village there was a medical center, but now there is no, gu-gu, that the hospital was closed in the 50 thousandth city, is to blame - optimized, also silent.
        What can I say ... IN became the mouthpiece of anti-Russian propaganda mixed with cave anti-Sovietism.
        1. Operator
          Operator 14 June 2020 14: 40
          -6
          It’s just that the author was deeply hooked on the cinematography of frogs with Alan Delon and finally broke away from anti-glamorous reality with losers, punishers, mercenaries, sadists, racists, collaborators, etc.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 14 June 2020 14: 53
            -6
            Quote: Operator
            It’s just that the author really got hooked on the cinematography of frogs

            Well, if the author "sits down" on a topic that does not carry any ideological orientation, an article on this topic will be posted on VO?
            I think no. VO, to which I belonged, 3 years ago, with respect, today is becoming my enemy. VO is clearly under control, and obviously by someone anti-Russian.
            1. Operator
              Operator 14 June 2020 17: 26
              -5
              Everything goes the way - after the American spring there will be marginal, Litvin, Bessarabian, Livonian, Chukhon, Tiflis, and then everywhere laughing

              And the "great and mighty" frogs cannot be helped any more - in their place there will be an African caliphate.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 14 June 2020 19: 00
                +5
                Quote: Operator
                Everything goes the way

                "Let's wait and turn green," said the frog.
                Quote: Operator

                And the "great and mighty" frogs cannot be helped any more - in their place there will be an African caliphate.

                My daughter-in-law went through practice in Paris and said that it was difficult to meet a Frenchman in the subway, in minibuses (if ours). All African-French, Turkish-French, Arab-French. Am I tolerating myself?
                1. Operator
                  Operator 14 June 2020 19: 11
                  +3
                  I was in Paris, I confirm - the splash pools under the banner of the prophet have already "turned green".
                  1. Legionista
                    Legionista 14 June 2020 22: 49
                    +8
                    I was in Paris, I confirm - the splash pools under the banner of the prophet have already "turned green"

                    I was in Moscow, I affirm, “The Caucasus steers”))), “shooting weddings” and “Lezghinka” everywhere)))))
                    But seriously, France is not only Paris)))
                2. Legionista
                  Legionista 14 June 2020 22: 44
                  +4
                  My daughter-in-law went through practice in Paris and said that it was difficult to meet a Frenchman in the subway, in minibuses (if ours). All African-French, Turkish-French, Arab-French. Am I tolerating myself?

                  It would be necessary to add, Polyakov-French, Romanian-French, Georgian-French, Serbo-French, Russian-French. wink
                  ... and yes, there are no “minibuses” in Paris, there are regular buses that come with the public transport system, which are equipped with air suspension for the convenience of wheelchair access. About the subway, I agree with your daughter-in-law, a Parisian on the subway, it's like a Muscovite in the subway))) before 10.00:16.00 in the morning and later than XNUMX:XNUMX he does not go without special need.
              2. Legionista
                Legionista 14 June 2020 22: 35
                +3
                And the "great and mighty" frogs cannot be helped any more - in their place there will be an African caliphate.

                I would not be so categorical) while AEROFLOT uses AIRBUS, while they drink Moët & Chandon in the USA, Russia and China, while not all THALES thermal imagers have been dismantled from our tanks, there is no need to worry about France)) )
                1. Operator
                  Operator 14 June 2020 22: 48
                  +1
                  The key word you have is "bye" - especially since I used the word "will."
                  1. Legionista
                    Legionista 14 June 2020 22: 57
                    +2
                    To my regret, and this is absolutely without irony, my keywords are “AIRBUS, Moët & Chandon, THALES”.
      3. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 11
        +2
        So a pirate and a bandit becomes a corsair, you can already stage a ballet about a corsair.
        Like, for example, Khachaturian about Spartak.
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 14 June 2020 22: 12
          +4
          Was Spartak a pirate or a bandit? He was a deserter. For this he was sold to gladiators! The example with Spartak does not "canal".
          Here are the works of Rafael Sabatini on the "pirate theme" I think that's it!
          Published in the 20th century. The Spaniards could not present any claims! But, as described "noble corsairs and privateers" in batches of breathtaking Spanish galleons.
        2. hohol95
          hohol95 15 June 2020 08: 29
          +2
          So please answer me - can a human child (white) learn English from the ABC book without any explanation from the outside? And while living among the giant monkeys!
          In a way that could not be analyzed, he had already groped for the key to the mystery of the mysterious little insects so embarrassing him.
          A primer was lying in front of him, and in the primer there was a drawing depicting a small monkey. This monkey was like himself, but, with the exception of his hands and face, was covered with some kind of funny colored fur. Tarzan mistook a man’s suit for fur! Seven small insects were visible above the picture:
          Boy.
          And he noticed that in the text, on the same page, these seven insects repeated many times in the same order.
          Then he realized that there were relatively few individual insects, but that they were repeated many times - sometimes alone, and more often accompanied by others.
          He slowly turned the pages, peering at the pictures and text, and was looking for a repetition of the familiar combination of ahhhhhh. So he again found it under a different picture: there again was a small monkey and with it some unknown animal, standing on all four paws and resembling a jackal. Under this pattern, the insects were composed in such a combination:
          M-ah
          So these seven little insects always accompanied the little monkey!
          Thus, the teachings of Tarzan advanced. True, it went very, very slowly, because, without knowing it, he set himself a difficult and painstaking job that you or I would have thought impossible: he wanted to learn to read without having the slightest idea of ​​letters or writing and never hearing of them.

          And he learned to read! Having no idea about the pronunciation of letters !!!
          And the pronunciation of their combinations and this is in English ...
          And why be surprised - he is WHITE and from noble British parents!
          Naturally, the indigenous inhabitants of the black continent in all books about Tarzan are described as cannibals and very primitive creatures!
          And the self-taught Tarzan received his rightful title of Lord Greystock.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 15 June 2020 08: 38
            +2
            Can not. Being determines consciousness.
            1. hohol95
              hohol95 15 June 2020 08: 40
              +2
              But Lord Tarzan could! The gentleman Burroughs!
              The British, they are especially from the elite ...
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 15 June 2020 08: 46
                +1
                Honestly, I didn’t read it, because it’s not interesting.
                1. hohol95
                  hohol95 15 June 2020 08: 48
                  +1
                  Now then yes! But when in the 80s of the 20th century it was printed in parts in the magazine "Around the World". And I had to read in the library! The reading seemed very interesting!
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 15 June 2020 09: 02
                    +1
                    Yes I remember. The parents were discharging. At the end of the year, father stitched magazines and stitched excerpts into full-fledged books of a magazine format, "Around the World", "TM", "Ural Pathfinder".
                2. hohol95
                  hohol95 15 June 2020 08: 52
                  +2
                  You, Anton, probably haven’t read "Count Dracula" from Bram Stoker? So this Dracula, again, was won by the British! And one officer with a tattoo of the goddess Kali (he served in India) so generally refused to bite the vampires!
                  Transylvanian vampires were afraid of the revenge of the Indian goddess!
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 15 June 2020 09: 05
                    +1
                    Do not read. I saw several adaptations.
                    1. hohol95
                      hohol95 15 June 2020 09: 14
                      +2
                      Screen adaptations and next to the book do not stand! They gave me a book for a day - I read it in half a day! Instead of doing homework! I was a schoolboy then ... Then, in the early 90s, the flow of fiction and adventures that gushed from behind the "hillock" seemed so interesting and exciting. Dynamic.
                      1. vladcub
                        vladcub 15 June 2020 21: 03
                        +2
                        That food is true. The end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s there were so many interesting things printed in magazines ... I downloaded at work to drop into the chitza
  2. apro
    apro 14 June 2020 06: 21
    +5
    So all because of the dough ??? and where is the burden of a white man?
    To heroize a mercenary is the height of cynicism ...
    1. unknown
      unknown 14 June 2020 06: 59
      +4
      Oddly enough, but the burden was.
      After the collapse of the British Empire, the metropolis ordered a very serious audit.
      The result was completely unexpected.
      The British Empire was a PERFECTLY LOSSING ENTERPRISE.
      The resources, material and human, spent on the development of the colonies (creating infrastructure for the extraction, processing and transportation of the extracted resources, for education and management, protecting all this, including the navy) did not at all pay off the profit.
      The only state that profitably pursued a colonial, or rather, neocolonial policy was and remains the United States.
      1. apro
        apro 14 June 2020 07: 12
        12
        Quote: ignoto
        The British Empire was a PERFECTLY LOSSING ENTERPRISE.

        I willingly believe .... I myself am so.
        In the 90s, the director of the winery also cried in the program ... how did he sell vodka to the people at a loss ...
      2. VicktorVR
        VicktorVR 14 June 2020 10: 50
        +6
        Yes Yes Yes. It was a rural veterinarian in England in the 30s who drove calls to cars, and farmers called him by telephone. Well, yes, often not in their own way, but in a neighboring / from a neighboring village.
        This is so, an example of the poor of Great Britain, who gave everything to the development of the colonies.,

        In the USSR of the late 80s, by the way, a rural veterinarian (wife's uncle), at best, drove an official on a motorcycle, and usually on horseback. And they called him - they knocked on the window at night ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 13: 10
          +8
          Quote: VicktorVR
          Yes Yes Yes. It was a rural veterinarian in England in the 30s who drove calls to cars, and farmers called him by telephone. Well, yes, often not in their own way, but in a neighboring / from a neighboring village.
          This is so, an example of the poor of Great Britain, who gave everything to the development of the colonies.,

          In the USSR of the late 80s, by the way, a rural veterinarian (wife's uncle), at best, drove an official on a motorcycle, and usually on horseback. And they called him - they knocked on the window at night ...

          This is in the 30s. And at the end of the 19th century (the peak of colonialism), a London student of Indian origin by the name of Gandhi was surprised to write about the poverty of ordinary Londoners - all the Englishmen in the colonies were traditionally considered rich by the natives.
      3. sevtrash
        sevtrash 14 June 2020 11: 49
        +6
        Quote: ignoto
        After the collapse of the British Empire, the metropolis ordered a very serious audit.
        The result was completely unexpected.
        The British Empire was a PERFECTLY LOSSING ENTERPRISE.

        ... During the heyday of the British Empire at the end of the XIX century, the cost of maintaining the army did not exceed 3% of GDP. At the same time, Britain possessed the most powerful and modern fleet, coal bases for which were scattered around the world. But the empire controlled the colonies rather thanks to flexible politics and modern infrastructure. It was during the time of British domination that the continents were enmeshed in railways and telegraph lines. The combination of these factors made it possible to restrain the growth of national liberation movements. After all, having received the vaccine of British culture and education, the colonial elite wanted more - a responsible government ...
      4. bk0010
        bk0010 14 June 2020 21: 07
        +1
        Quote: ignoto
        The British Empire was a PERFECTLY LOSSING ENTERPRISE.
        It became a completely unprofitable enterprise after signing agreements with the United States during World War II (all the loot went to the states). And before that - an extremely profitable business.
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 14 June 2020 10: 52
      +7
      The burden of a white man can be seen in India.
      The de facto British gathered the country collapsed after the Mughal collapse, built roads, ports, infrastructure, and the education system.
      Naturally, there was no close philanthropy in all of this. But the fact remains. All this was done by the British at a time when they were only charged with the bad type of famine in Bengal.
      By the way, the famous East India Company went bankrupt three times.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 14 June 2020 14: 39
        +1
        This is not so. They have repeatedly toughly suppressed the uprisings, slaughtering civilians.
        1. Engineer
          Engineer 14 June 2020 16: 59
          +3
          And that certainly was
          You can’t erase a word from a song
      2. hohol95
        hohol95 15 June 2020 08: 31
        0
        By the way, the famous East India Company went bankrupt three times.

        Did they build the Vostochny cosmodrome? Or were there other reasons?
        1. Engineer
          Engineer 15 June 2020 10: 58
          +4
          The British had their own problems.
          Speculative stock growth. The advantages and disadvantages of the Western economic model. It provides an unprecedented accumulation of cash from investors observing growth, but at the same time makes the company extremely vulnerable
          In 1769, after several years of growth, stocks fell 20 percent after a false rumor about the French fleet entering the shores of India. In our time, such a fall is ridiculous (Tesla's shares fell 10 percent after Ilon smoked grass on the air) In those conservative times, it was a shock to the foundations. Investors suddenly realized that they were dealing with a volatile and vulnerable to external impact company.
          Money supply fell so much that the company stayed afloat only thanks to government intervention.
          This overlapped with the second problem - the growth of the company took place, as is usually the case, on credit.
          The company expanded its presence in India at the expense of British troops, paying the government a huge amount of compensation - 400 thousand pounds per year. Money was taken from investors. As soon as difficulties arose with investors, the company immediately lost the possibility of such growth. Now she had to take 400 thousand from the government herself in exchange for expanding the role of the state in regulating the company.
          Thus, we have unsecured growth, dependence on the political situation and cash gaps that have nothing to close.
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 14 June 2020 11: 07
      0
      Quote: apro
      To heroize a mercenary is the height of cynicism ...

      Well, what about Che and Guitar, oh, I'm sorry, with Che Guevara, this gunman ripened everywhere. Heroizing ...
      1. apro
        apro 14 June 2020 11: 28
        +7
        Quote: Fitter65
        Quote: apro
        To heroize a mercenary is the height of cynicism ...

        Well, what about Che and Guitar, oh, I'm sorry, with Che Guevara, this gunman ripened everywhere. Heroizing ...

        And how many bobla raised Comrade Che?
    4. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 14 June 2020 14: 30
      -3
      Quote: apro
      To heroize a mercenary is the height of cynicism ..

      This is the editorial policy of the site. You won’t do anything here.
      Who pays, that girl and dances.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 21
        +5
        "But for this, father, you can put your party card on the table!" laughing
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 June 2020 06: 44
    +1
    Coups in the already recognized independent states, atrocities, many, many thousands of victims - this was noted by the West even in the middle of the 20th century.

    Yes, and the 21st century did not bring much change. But what does he remember and what is he crying about? Maybe about the same Congo, Angola, etc., etc.?

    No, bloodless Czechoslovakia in 1968 they have a model of violence and cruelty .....

    The death of the Secretary General in Congo 61 is still a mystery. One convincing version is the assassination attempt, organized by British intelligence in collaboration with the CIA, carried out by the Belgian mercenary mentioned in the article. His wife and child received British citizenship, intelligence documents are still closed, but the mercenary, in fact, was otmazat ...

    One word "Why?" Was written on the monument to the General Secretary.

    Interesting article! a plus!

    I remember articles about the mentioned "geese" from the 70s of the last century ...
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 14 June 2020 11: 13
      15
      Quote: Olgovich
      bloodless Czechoslovakia in 1968 they have a model of violence and cruelty ...

      You and about Hungary 1956 remember. When these unfinished Nazi assistants who atrocities on our land were allowed to be equal with the winners, and 11 years after the war they decided to show their incompletely broken teeth.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 14 June 2020 12: 13
        0
        Quote: Fitter65
        You and about Hungary 1956 remember. When these unfinished Nazi assistants who atrocities on our land were allowed to be equal with the winners, and 11 years after the war they decided to show their incompletely broken teeth.

        this, of course, too
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 14 June 2020 16: 32
        +6
        And it all happened after Khrushchev maize read his anti-Stalinist report at the beginning of 1956, and then took up "new thinking" - he liquidated the Soviet bases in Finland and China, in addition, withdrew the troops from Austria. It was through the Hungarian-Austrian border that the weapon went to the Magyar perestroika. About a week later I had to explain to them who they really are.
  4. Dart2027
    Dart2027 14 June 2020 06: 49
    15
    “We are going to do for black the same thing that black did for the revolution, that is, nothing.”

    Laughing for a long time. Che - burns.
  5. Lester7777
    Lester7777 14 June 2020 07: 09
    +7
    "Dedicated to Georgie, Christian, Shley, Big Mark, Black Johnny and all the others in unmarked graves. At least we tried."
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 14 June 2020 17: 26
      +5
      - "Shouting" Massacre! Massacre! "Get the Dogs of War down!" (FROM)
      1. Lester7777
        Lester7777 15 June 2020 12: 06
        0
        Yes, old Forsyth. He knows what he is writing about.
  6. Liam
    Liam 14 June 2020 07: 40
    +1
    This conflict was also complicated by the crash when landing in the city of Ndola (currently part of Zambia) aircraft, which was the UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld (September 18, 1961). Investigation of the circumstances of the disaster involved six commissions. Finally, in 2011, experts concluded that the plane was still shot down

    Will it not be difficult to indicate which specific "experts" have come to this conclusion?
  7. Catfish
    Catfish 14 June 2020 08: 12
    11
    Good article, thanks to Valery. hi
    In the sixties, the names of almost all these people were heard by those who were somehow interested in the events taking place in Africa and read the magazine "Abroad". Perhaps every dog ​​knew the name of Kongo-Muller, at least in Moscow, especially after the release of the film "Laughing Killer".
    Shot from the movie.

    There was another iconic character there, Lieutenant Colonel Rolf Steiner, I remember a photo in the same "Abroad", where Steiner teaches Moise Tshombe to shoot a pistol. Unfortunately, I haven't found it now, but there are others:


    1. vladcub
      vladcub 14 June 2020 12: 22
      +4
      Good day Kostya, I agree with you: mostly familiar characters.
      The name "Laughing Killer" seems familiar, but I don't remember the film at all.
      Hoarn and Dinard these names still sounded in the late 70s, but I don’t remember Fulka
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 14 June 2020 18: 13
        +2
        Hi Svyatoslav. hi Aso, I’ve heard nothing about Fulka either, until this article by Valery.
      2. saygon66
        saygon66 14 June 2020 18: 58
        +1
        - Film by DEFA studio "Commando 52" https://youtu.be/DrCpEpvSEZw
      3. saygon66
        saygon66 14 June 2020 19: 23
        +2
        - The last time Denard alienated already in 1995, trying to make a coup in Comoros ...
    2. VLR
      14 June 2020 13: 29
      +7
      Rolf Steiner is not quite a typical mercenary, a little bit will be said about him in the last article of this small "sub-cycle".
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 14 June 2020 18: 12
        +2
        Good evening, Valery. hi I had no doubt that you would definitely mention it.
    3. saygon66
      saygon66 14 June 2020 17: 36
      +3
      - The first photo of Steiner is not related to the events in the Congo ...
      “It was made during the rebellion in Biafra, Nigeria.”
      -

      1. VLR
        14 June 2020 18: 26
        +3
        "Steiner's first photograph has nothing to do with the events in the Congo ...
        It was taken during the Biafra mutiny "

        Correctly smile
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 14 June 2020 18: 44
          +3
          - Also: Mark Goossens

          - And one of M. Hoare's subordinates, Huy "Teffi" Williams
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 14 June 2020 18: 27
        +2
        Good evening, namesake. hi Unfortunately, I did not find on the network those photos that I was looking for, posted what was there.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 14 June 2020 18: 28
          +3
          - Kind! This Steiner photo is the most common ... smile

    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 June 2020 02: 10
      +4
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Perhaps every dog ​​knew the name of Kongo-Muller, at least in Moscow, especially after the release of the film "Laughing Killer".

      Italians Gualtiero Jacopetti and Franco Prosperi in the early 60s made a good documentary - Africa addio... These frostbitten documentaries filmed for three years the "process of gaining independence" in Zanzibar, Kenya and Congo - massacres, fires, hostage-taking, shootings, again massacres, mopping-ups. In Kenya, they were almost shot as white - they were pulled literally from the wall by an officer who shouted: "Wait! They are not white, but Italians!".
      In the film, mercenaries in Congo also appeared - here is a cut with them:

      Yes, the operator came with an advanced detachment of mercenaries and filmed a real battle. For the credo of Gualtiero Jacopetti and Franco Prosperi was - no production, only documentary filming.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 16 June 2020 15: 11
        +2
        Alexey hi , thanks for the "cutting", how much I read about those events, but I see videos for the first time. But later, in Europe, a lawsuit was organized against these documentary guys for actions incompatible with journalistic ethics (there seems to be such a wording).
        The fact is that the mercenaries in the jeeps, on the kingpin, had machine guns installed to which movie cameras were attached and the descent on the machine gun was combined with the record button on the camera, it turned on automatically when the machine gunner opened fire. Müller talked about this. I don’t remember how the trial ended, and whether it was at all, but the situation there was, of course, the rarest.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 16 June 2020 18: 26
          +1
          Quote: Sea Cat
          But after all, these documentary guys subsequently, in Europe, organized a trial for actions incompatible with the ethics of a journalist (it seems that there was such a wording).

          They tried to be tried for war crimes - for "murder on camera":
          Published in the major news magazine L'espresso, Gregoretti in an article accused Giacopetti, cameraman Antonio Climati and producer Stanis Nievo of war crimes, since the massacre of the rebels allegedly took place at the command of Camera -Action ". Of course, this caused a huge scandal not only in Italy, but around the world, because it was obvious that people were actually being killed in front of the camera. The question was different - was it done specifically for filming at the director's command, or the documentary filmmakers just happened to be in the right place at the right time to film all these events. Franco Prosperi explains this publication and the scandal it raised by a "misunderstanding" of the following kind: during one of the friendly conversations between Gregoretti and Giacopetti, the latter dropped the following phrase - "the mercenaries did everything we told them." Whatever it was, but as a result of this "misunderstanding" in the mass consciousness, documentary filmmakers have become monsters, allegedly dooming people to death in front of the camera lens for the sake of "fried shots" and "entertainment".

          Giacometti, Klimati, and Nievo were forced to return to Congo to collect documentary evidence of their own innocence. Of course, they gathered them there, along with a huge amount of evidence that in fact they saved a lot of people from violence, saying that they are employees hired for filming. It all ended trivially - when the judge asked the documentary about whether the scenes of the killing of people were real, they answered with one voice - “everything was fabricated and pretentious,” after which the case was safely closed.

          https://cult-cinema.ru/additional/articles/mondo-films/
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 16 June 2020 18: 38
            0
            Clear. Closed the case and thank God. smile
  8. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 14 June 2020 09: 10
    14
    the Congo also has rich deposits of copper, cobalt, uranium, cadmium, tin, gold and silver, and the Belgian province of Katanga, the Belgian Jules Cornet, who conducted subsurface exploration at the end of the XNUMXth century, called it “geological sensation”.

    60 (sixty!) Years have passed since then. The "colonialists", the "puppets of the capitalists" and the "henchmen of the imperialists" have long disappeared ...
    I perfectly remember the People’s Republic of the Congo, how the left organized a coup, how Marian Nguabi built socialism under the leadership of the Marxist-Leninist Congolese Labor Party - the favorite of the CPSU ... For him was the USSR, for him were Cuba, Angola, the whole “socialist camp”.
    The first attempt to overthrow Nguabi was made by Lieutenant Pierre Kinganga - a graduate of the Ryazan Airborne Command School. Failed. But in 1997, Nguabi still banged the captain of military intelligence Barthelemy Kikadidi - a graduate of the French commando school. True, a year later they also banged him, but the KGB men there. Then purges followed by executions, then famine and devastation + civil war ... In short, neither cadmium, nor gold, nor uranium, nor freedom from the colonialists helped them ... Alas. hi
    1. VLR
      14 June 2020 10: 55
      13
      The People's Republic of Congo is a former French colony. And the Democratic Republic of the Congo is the former Belgian. They are often confused. smile
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 14 June 2020 11: 50
        +7
        You're right. Democratic, this is where Tshombe and Mobutu ruled. Where they surrendered to the enemies of Lumumba. A huge and impoverished country ...
      2. hohol95
        hohol95 14 June 2020 22: 22
        +5
        Just that on the TV channel Russia in the news block the Belgians themselves said:
        "Without our Congo, there would be no such beautiful Belgium!"
        Well, the locals didn’t want to work on rubber plantations!
        And they also refused to work in the mines. So the good Belgians had to give one local in one hand a gingerbread, and in the other a whip in the form of a rifle!
        And their hands were chopped off not only for negligence, but also for counting spent cartridges (for this, cut off hands were specially smoked)!
        And the uranium for the American atomic bombs "Fat Man" and "Kid" was mined in Katanga!
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 18 June 2020 10: 41
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The first attempt to overthrow Nguabi was made by Lieutenant Pierre Kinganga - a graduate of the Ryazan Airborne Command School. Failed. But in 1997, Nguabi still banged the captain of military intelligence Barthelemy Kikadidi - a graduate of the French commando school. True, a year later they also banged him, but the KGB men there.

      Hence the conclusion - the French commandos are cooler than the Ryazan paratroopers, but judging by the final result of the KGB, the coolest! lol
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 18 June 2020 10: 46
        0
        Quote: Captain45
        but judging by the end result, the KGB is the coolest!

        Absolutely. When posed correctly, local "competent" bodies are always stronger than any conspirators.
  9. Moskovit
    Moskovit 14 June 2020 09: 18
    +1
    Now the descendants of the condottieres receive the full from the descendants of blacks. The wheel of fortune spun.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 14 June 2020 09: 51
      14
      ... receive in full from the descendants of blacks.

      Why descendants? They are blacks, and as they were, they remained so. Look, above, Alexander popularly described how beautifully Negroes live in the Congo without colonizers and other mercenaries.
      And the "descendants of the Condottieri", in their countries, simply do not have state leaders capable of making a radical decision. As soon as such a leader appears, the army will instantly swat all these "African American Arabs". What's in the US, what's in Europe. If the leadership has political will, no one there will dare to utter a word.
      Were in the States at one time, "Black Panthers" - where are they now? laughing
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 14 June 2020 12: 03
        +6
        Quote: Sea Cat
        They are blacks, and as they were, they remained so.

        In the USA especially. Robber, drug addict became almost a saint, because he is a black man. Oh, African American. In films, the separation between good and bad will soon be racially based, black is good, if bad is white. Accordingly, at least 50% of the Oscars are blacks. Yes - the descendants of slaves, yes - slavery is bad, racism is also, but now in the USA there are some perverse elements of racism. Actually, he is everywhere, in one way or another. But the USA is the stronghold of civilization, the engine of progress and such inequality ...
        1. VLR
          14 June 2020 12: 29
          18
          "The robber, the drug addict has become almost a saint."

          It seems to have already become.
          You know, I won’t be surprised if in 10 years in the USA white women who do not have a black child will be blamed for racism.
          1. sevtrash
            sevtrash 14 June 2020 14: 42
            +2
            Quote: VlR
            It seems to have already become.
            You know, I won’t be surprised if in 10 years in the USA white women who do not have a black child will be blamed for racism.

            Well, they gave Black a new goal))) But this does not work, they will take it with enthusiasm. Although where is the soul)))
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 34
              +8
              In Jamaica. "Dead nigger, too, can play basketball" (C)
      2. Moskovit
        Moskovit 14 June 2020 12: 16
        +4
        Western countries for centuries pumped resources from Africa, fomented ethnic strife. The vast majority of African peoples have no experience in state building, systemic work in almost any area of ​​human activity. And what do you want? If your great-grandfathers, grandfathers and fathers just did that plantations were picked with hoes or died at the age of 40 in the mines from lung silicosis. You can’t show photos of your ancestors, say, and my grandfather was a doctor, and my grandmother was a teacher. I do not at all justify the current infantilism of Africans, but before you consider them to be a lower race, think about it.
        Yes, and I am for giving a hungry fishing rod, not a fish. As the USSR tried to do in due time.
        1. sevtrash
          sevtrash 14 June 2020 14: 46
          12
          Quote: Moskovit
          I do not at all justify the current infantilism of Africans, but before you consider them to be a lower race, think about it.

          Yes, everyone is equal from the beginning. But here is something they don’t like to work with. Neither at home nor in Europe.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 37
            +7
            Most of all they love "freebies", fuck and devour!
        2. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 14 June 2020 15: 01
          14
          Western countries for centuries pumped resources from Africa, fomented ethnic strife.
          - the era of classical colonialism with European control of large territories of "black Africa" ​​(and not trading posts on the coast) takes just over a hundred years. For example, Congo took shape as a Belgian colony in 1885. The Africans coped well with the strife themselves, as a result of which, by the way, such a large-scale slave trade could exist.
          The vast majority of African peoples have no experience in state building, systemic work in almost any area of ​​human activity.
          - Well, and who is the evil Pinocchio? Europeans system experience from the sky or something fell? Who developed agriculture in much more unfavorable conditions? Created manufactories and factories? The greatest works of art? Developed science and philosophy? Lumumba probably flew from the sky. Centuries of incredible work, hundreds of thinkers, thousands of artisans. Will and mind. And blacks, both in the time of Barbarossa, built huts from leaves and bare ... they ran, and in the days of Bismarck they continued.
          But, as Mr. Vaschenko, well-known on the website, wrote, "they lived in harmony with nature."
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 48
            +5
            Do not hurt Vashchenko. Perhaps he was joking, but you did not understand.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 14 June 2020 18: 46
            +5
            Quote: Ryazanets87
            And blacks, both in the time of Barbarossa, built huts from leaves and bare ... they ran, and in the days of Bismarck they continued.

            Well, in Africa you’re hungry - get on a palm tree, pick a banana or coconut, and everything is fine. There is no winter. Walk naked, you will not freeze, and you do not need to heat the stove. And in Europe, even in sunny Italy, you can’t procure germs, warm clothes, and fuel — you won’t winter. So in Europe, natural selection was based on intelligence and ability to work. And in Africa, whoever dances best, besides all the heifers are in line for genetic material. Here is the result.
          3. Moskovit
            Moskovit 14 June 2020 21: 51
            0
            Have you read the article carefully? By the 17 million population by 1960 (!), 17 university graduates. At 4500 officials, 3 (three) local. What are you talking about? Who are they good Pinocchio? It is clear that this is only because the blacks are stupid and similar to monkeys, and not at all because nothing belonged to them on their land. Which of them pumped out resources. That no one needed educated locals. Maybe compare with the USSR?
            1. Ryazan87
              Ryazan87 14 June 2020 23: 25
              +7
              [Quote] and not at all because they did not own anything on their land. Which resources were siphoned out of them. [/ q mutual proposal to think how they "poor" came to this position. Here is Russia to take a century in the 17th-early 18th. Colonialism was just flourishing. Were there many university graduates, or a lot of wealth with a favorable climate? Or a bunch of kind neighbors with an open credit line around? And oh, how Russia suffered from the slave trade (much more Africans at that time). But the Russians, for some reason, did not put up with this state of affairs.
              [quote] Can you compare with the USSR? [/ quote]
              Let's compare. By 1922 - 8 years of continuous war, famine, epidemics. 2/3 of the illiterate or illiterate population (even more, perhaps). A significant proportion of people with higher education have died or emigrated. Industry is in a state of collapse. Finance is just like in Zimbabwe now. And compare with the USSR after 40 years, where the spacecraft was launched.
              [quote] By 17 million people by 1960 (!), 17 university graduates. [/ Quote]
              1960 years have passed since 60. Generations have changed. And how did the universities appear in the Congo? What do they have with higher education, sorry, do not know? Striving for knowledge, and all the whites interfere with them? No, stop. The same USSR actively helped: taught, built, gave loans (irrevocable). For example, already "... Russia in 2000-2003 wrote off more than $ 15 billion in debt of the following countries: Tanzania, Benin, Mali, Guinea-Bissau, Madagascar, Guinea, Chad, Yemen, Mozambique, Burkina Faso and Sierra Leone . "
              But in the course, what is happening with South Africa, where apartheid was also canceled soon 30 years later. True, there are still a lot of whites and it is impossible to break through to the end. Either the case is in Rhodesia, where whites were kicked out completely and Zimbabwe turned out. With financial records such as suspension of issue due to the fact that paper is too expensive.
        3. Legionista
          Legionista 14 June 2020 17: 40
          +9
          And what do you want? If your great-grandfathers, grandfathers and fathers just did that plantations were picked with hoes or died at the age of 40 in the mines from lung silicosis. You can’t show photos of your ancestors, say, and my grandfather was a doctor, and my grandmother was a teacher.
          This is demagoguery. My grandfather just did that he threw coal in a rural stoker. He fought. 2 Orders of Glory, the medal “For Courage”, the medal “For the Capture of Budapest”, died at 48 years old (a consequence of a severe wound), just in the year when Brezhnev flew to Africa, recognized the independence of new countries. My grandmother is also not a collective farmer teacher, she worked for workdays. Just when we started buying oranges and bananas from blacks for gold in Africa. I can show a photo. One thing. They often didn’t take a photo in the village, it’s understandable, it’s not difficult to pay for a photo. And yet, their children, my parents, uncles and aunts were educated, although they went to school for 8 kilometers. Apparently, the matter is in mentality and desire.
          Yes, and I am for giving a hungry fishing rod, not a fish. As the USSR tried to do in due time.

          To whom and where did you try)? You, pitying the oppressed blacks, forget about the collective farmers of the USSR. And you forget about the workers too, for example, what happened in Novocherkassk, just in 1962. Before crying about strangers, you must learn to feel sorry for your own. hi
          1. Jager
            Jager 14 June 2020 20: 48
            +4
            The theme with Novocherkassk is dark, an adequate protest turned into pogroms. But the order to shoot was clearly too much.
          2. Moskovit
            Moskovit 14 June 2020 21: 58
            -3
            Do not confuse warm with soft. Your grandfather graduated from school. Your grandmother too. And your parents, and uncles and aunts. And if they did not have schools. There were no hospitals. They could not learn who they wanted. Could you go to the factory or stay on the collective farm. They would be led by people who would not even speak Russian. Their land would belong to them. They would be powerless. There would be nothing but the right to die for the white gentleman.
            1. Legionista
              Legionista 14 June 2020 23: 45
              +4
              At the Higher School of Higher Education they taught us not to confuse soft with warm, to separate flies from cutlets and “put on boots on a clean head” wink My grandfather did not study at school, a homeless child, then a laborer, then to a stoker. Grandmother taught him how to write. You see, they lived in a village, not in Moscow, not “Muscovites”, Ukrainians). And there was no hospital in the village. Believe me, there was no hospital there until 1986. And they still drown with coal). It happens), not everywhere there is still gas in the villages).
              Could you go to the factory or stay on the collective farm. They would be led by people who would not even speak Russian. Their land would belong to them. They would be powerless.
              The collective farmers could not go to the factory. There were no passports until the 70s. And the land did not belong to them, cows, calves, pigs could not be kept. Kurei with a dozen, and all. And the collective farm chairman spoke Russian, that's for sure, but more with mothers))). Not everywhere was life like Pyryev’s in “Kuban Cossacks”.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 23: 50
                -1
                Quote: Legionista
                cows, calves, pigs could not be kept. Kurei with a dozen, and all.

                Yes, and you could also keep such nonsense as you.
                1. Legionista
                  Legionista 15 June 2020 00: 31
                  +5
                  : laughing she, all the nonsense, like me, first at Moscow State University, was sent to the journalism department, and then a journalist in the newspaper "Country Life" good
              2. Alf
                Alf 15 June 2020 19: 54
                +2
                Quote: Legionista
                There were no passports until the 70s.

                1. Legionista
                  Legionista 15 June 2020 21: 49
                  +1
                  The reform of 1932-1933 provided for the issuance of passports, primarily to residents of Moscow, Leningrad, and the 100-kilometer zone around these cities, subsequently called the “regime”. Judging by the place of extradition, by the Kingisepp city police department, this is precisely the regime zone in question.
                2. Legionista
                  Legionista 15 June 2020 22: 06
                  0
                  Dear Alf! By posting a photo of a passport, it would be nice to give the entire text of the article by L. Parfyonov “RECENTS. Our era. Passport. Registration ". In it, in the article, everything is written in great detail hi
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 15 June 2020 22: 34
                    0
                    Quote: Legionista
                    Dear Alf! By posting a photo of a passport, it would be nice to give the entire text of the article by L. Parfyonov “RECENTS. Our era. Passport. Registration ". In it, in the article, everything is written in great detail hi

                    Simply, many argue that in the USSR collective farmers did not receive passports at all.
                    1. Legionista
                      Legionista 16 June 2020 08: 45
                      0
                      You are right, you issued passports. Some categories of collective farmers. In special cases. My thesis about the absence of passports was given in the context of the article under discussion and the subsequent discussion about the plight of the indigenous population of Africa.
                    2. truck driver
                      truck driver 24 July 2020 12: 24
                      -2
                      Mother-in-law, at one time bought her passport, or rather her parents, at the head of the collegiate for a good mogorych, a shop to enter Kiev as a seamstress ...
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 24 July 2020 18: 28
                        0
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        Mother-in-law, at one time bought her passport, or rather her parents, at the head of the collegiate for a good mogorych, a shop to enter Kiev as a seamstress ...

                        Judging by the number of mistakes, she also bought you a certificate of secondary education.
  10. Revolver
    Revolver 14 June 2020 10: 19
    +5
    Mdya ... Lumumba would have had a mind - Chombe would have nothing to do with it ...
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 14 June 2020 17: 50
      +1
      Bravo! Good joke!
  11. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 June 2020 10: 33
    +5
    I just started reading the article, and I immediately wanted to reread "Dogs of War" by F. Forsythe, as he briefly and succinctly described all these events. If earlier I thought that the names in the book are mostly fictitious, but it turns out not all, and even those have prototypes. Probably I will get it from the far regiment of PSOV ...
  12. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 June 2020 10: 42
    10
    he personally shot one of his subordinates, who was very fond of playing football, big toes
    Well, at least not front laughing laughing laughing By the way, where according to modern anatomy are small legs? !! laughing laughing laughing
    1. VLR
      14 June 2020 11: 38
      +5
      Thank you for reporting a typo: already fixed
  13. Vasisualiy Gus-Khrustalny
    Vasisualiy Gus-Khrustalny 14 June 2020 10: 52
    +4
    Very interesting and very informative. Thank you and look forward to continuing!)
  14. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 June 2020 10: 55
    +5
    Mr. Mulele, whom some European liberals then called the Black Messiah, Lincoln Congo and “the best son of Africa”, was not just a former minister, but also a “new school” shaman — trained in China with a Maoist and pseudo-Marxist bias
    Not a kneading thing. Something like beer, honey, manure and bees plus a doghouse chopped down with the owner ... laughing good
  15. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 14 June 2020 11: 08
    14
    While reading, I remembered the curious recollections of Lieutenant Colonel M.Yu. Tochigin (anyone interested - https://military.wikireading.ru/58076). This officer served as a military observer in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) from December 26, 2009 to December 26, 2010. Practically, today.

    I will allow myself a few quotes (especially for Soviet lovers of oppressed blacks):
    "... The level of development of the people living there, not even according to my estimates, but according to the estimates of foreign military observers, is at the level of a child of five or six years old. That is, deeply selfish people who demand constant handouts from an older adult uncle - a white, Local Africans do not know how to work and do not want to. They demand handouts, if you don’t give them, then they are indignant, if you give handouts - then they demand more handouts and are indignant, if not, they begin to destroy and cut everyone in a row. Their main task is not to work and receive handouts from Europeans.

    “Before the civil war, the DRC (Zaire) was the second economy in Africa after South Africa. The Belgians, leaving, left in 1960 a flourishing and well-functioning, well-functioning economy, highways, farms. But during the civil war (1960, 1976-1977 Even from the roads that the Belgians paved with stones, the local population picked out all the stones (probably in order to prove their independence from the center), and as a result there are no roads.
    Moreover, the locals do not live on farms, although the Belgians left good comfortable houses there. The locals have built around their huts - mud huts and live nearby. They don't understand how it is to live in a house. "

    “The government of the DRC still refers to the colonialists, they say, because of them there is such poverty in the country, as if they did not care about the population. The country has been independent for 50 years, but its rulers continue to blame the Belgians, although they left the country in excellent condition.And what is happening there now cannot be called an economy. The DRC army guards the most valuable deposits and the government is waiting for someone to come from abroad and start mining for free, build factories, and they would not do anything, but only receive most of the profit. "

    "The climate does not allow local Africans to develop the way Europeans do. They do not need to think about housing, clothing and food, because in such a climate everything grows. They make their hut, a hut, on top - palm leaves. Planting bananas, pineapples and so on. further and wait for something to grow. "

    So Patrice Lumumba about the monkeys to the very point.
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 14 June 2020 17: 57
      +9
      I agree categorically good everything described above, only changing a little the year and the country, I saw personally). The most popular phrase among Aboriginal people is “Donne-moi une cadeau! "Give me a gift!" And this is not a request, but a demand).
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 14 June 2020 18: 17
        +4
        - The inscription on the T-shirt of one of the rioters in Paris: "France, we will fuck you until you start to love us!" ...
  16. Operator
    Operator 14 June 2020 11: 18
    +1
    "" We are no longer your monkeys. "A phrase that simply kills with its spontaneity and is completely inconceivable at the present time," - the author is clearly behind the times laughing
  17. bubalik
    bubalik 14 June 2020 13: 18
    +5
    Thank you for the article.
    that in the Congo there are also rich deposits of copper, cobalt, uranium, cadmium, tin, gold and silver, and the Belgian province of Katanga, the Belgian Jules Cornet, who conducted subsurface exploration at the end of the XNUMXth century, called it “geological sensation”.

    ,,, why Africa remains the poorest and least developed continent of the planet?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 13: 57
      +9
      Lack of mass education, mentality, tribalism.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 14 June 2020 14: 24
        +2
        tribalism

        This property was and is used by the "new colonizers"!
        Tribalism is a form of group isolation characterized by inner isolation and exclusivity, usually accompanied by hostility towards other groups.

        And not only in Africa. The East (Middle, Middle and Far) suffers similar no less!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 14: 31
          +3
          Far East do not know, the Middle East - certainly.
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 14 June 2020 18: 56
            +4
            Vietnam v. China.
            Indonesia vs Malaysia! There are no less tribes and nationalities than in Africa!
            Not DV of course!
            Bhutan - everything forbidden is not Buddhist! The import of any non-Buddhist literature (including Hindu) is strictly prohibited.
            Sri Lanka - Sinhalese Buddhists against Tamil Hindus. By 2005, killed more than 70 thousand people.
        2. sevtrash
          sevtrash 14 June 2020 14: 53
          +2
          Quote: hohol95
          This property was and is used by the "new colonizers"!
          Tribalism is a form of group isolation characterized by inner isolation and exclusivity, usually accompanied by hostility towards other groups.

          And not only in Africa. The East (Middle, Middle and Far) suffers similar no less!

          It’s easier to say who does not suffer. EEC (not all), USA (without blacks and Indians), Canada, maybe partly the rest of America, southern, Latin
      2. Liam
        Liam 14 June 2020 14: 37
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Lack of mass education, mentality, tribalism.

        And in 1960, there were as many as 17 university graduates in all of Congo ... for 17 million local residents. Three of them held small administrative posts (the remaining 4997 vacancies were held by the Belgians).

        With such data, a successful state cannot be built quickly
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 14: 42
          +7
          One in a million. Of the 17, most likely a third received a law degree, a third accounting)).
          Some could calculate the cost of the lawsuit, while others beat it out in court laughing
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 June 2020 15: 00
            0
            These numbers could not be an accident, but only a purposeful policy. Therefore, all the talk about how well you lived with the colonialists is for the poor. To pave a couple of roads and build a couple of decent neighborhoods for yourself and purposefully keep the whole people in ignorance, condemning them for generations ahead what is there right now
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 June 2020 15: 07
              12
              Let's just say - these guys initially did not have a craving for higher education, and indeed education in general.
              1. Liam
                Liam 14 June 2020 15: 11
                +1
                Well, yes. All my life I dreamed of living as they live)
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 15: 18
                  +5
                  There is a completely different mentality. )))
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 14 June 2020 15: 21
                    +3
                    And the mentality and level of education are not directly dependent?)
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 15: 23
                      +5
                      However, if there is no craving for education, where will the changes in mentality come from? How could they even find out about the existence of such without the colonizers? It's all very simple))
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 14 June 2020 18: 39
                        +1
                        Well naturally. Without the colonizers they are not humans)
                        Or maybe if hundreds of years of colonization, apart from exporting everything and everything from the country and using slave labor to a small fraction of the profits, they also built schools, universities, introduced Aboriginal people to the country's administration, prepared a little for self-government, and after leaving the colonies did not flood the country with these gentlemen thugs glorified in the article, did not corrupt and did not buy the riches of the country for nothing, did not finance endless coups and civil wars, but treated at least a little with respect and justice as more developed and cultured people ... you look and there would not be such darkness as now )
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 52
                        +5
                        Why not humans?
                        There is a Jewish joke:
                        Moishe arrives in Africa, he sees a local lying under a tree, he is a blade of grass, he waits for a coconut from a palm to fall on him.
                        “Young man, why are you lying around here?” Collect coconuts from the ground, carry to the market and sell!
                        - Why?
                        - Then to rent a car and bring a lot of coconuts to the market
                        - Why?
                        - Then to rent 4 cars, hire three workers and bring to the market a lot of coconuts
                        - What is this for?
                        - You will have a lot of money, put a manager, and you yourself will lie all day under a palm tree and spit in the sky!
                        “Poets, what do you think I'm doing now?”
                      3. Liam
                        Liam 14 June 2020 19: 01
                        -1
                        You know, any modern racist starts speaking on this subject like this ... I’m not a racist, BUT ... and then a bunch of words follow why some civilizations are worse. From theories about bananas growing at the threshold to why this Negro can not be called a black man once he's black)
                        A Negro should not be called a Negro, if only because it sounds insulting to him, and if you respect a person, you won’t call him a word or a name that dislikes him, do you agree?). As an example, both you and I know that calling a Jew a Jew is insulting and this word is used mainly by anti-Semites at the household level, although they will deny it in words and will provide extracts from different dictionaries that there is nothing in this word.
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 14 June 2020 19: 38
                        +7
                        And I do not use the word Negro))
                        Let's give another example - about the Jews. In the early 50s, immigrants from Yemen were brought to Israel. Dark ones. The state was a beggar, they were settled in camps, then in new-built peripheral cities, without good schools and development prospects. Mortality at their births was great - the condition of women was fig after numerous births and the government of the impoverished country decided to make a gesheft - the older mother said that the baby was dead and the baby was sold to the families of American Jews. In the 90s, this was revealed, the scandal reached the point of shooting, and many dark-skinned people from American families realized that they were the very children, began to come to Israel and find their parents. An interview with one such from the States was taken on TV. He says - only here, seeing my family, poor but happy, I realized that I was deprived of childhood. The host asks - and who do you work in New York?
                        - a Wall Street lawyer
                        - Do you live?
                        - West Side Manhattan - but money is not the main thing ...
                        - And the education that your adoptive parents gave you?
                        - Yes, all this garbage ..
                        After some time, the reverse process began - relatives of the foundlings began to want to go to America and quarrels began there - brothers, sisters and nephews were looking for a freebie, where to fool around and whom to deceive, often substituting the party.
                        Here you have racism, here you are being determines consciousness
                      5. Alf
                        Alf 14 June 2020 20: 33
                        +5
                        Quote: Liam
                        A black man should not be called a black man, if only because it sounds insulting to him

                        But what can you call him? Italians will always remain Italians, although there are Lombards, Tuscans, Sicilians, and so on, so on, so on ...
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 14 June 2020 20: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: Alf
                        Quote: Liam
                        A black man should not be called a black man, if only because it sounds insulting to him

                        But what can you call him? Italians will always remain Italians, although there are Lombards, Tuscans, Sicilians, and so on, so on, so on ...

                        Call it Nigerian, Zimbabwean, American.
                        You yourself contradict. The Italian, you call them by nationality. Like the Germans, the French. And the Negro, by race, by color. In addition, I suspect that for you they are all on one face (black), what is there to look for country or tribe he. He is not white to be interested in which country)
                      7. Alf
                        Alf 14 June 2020 20: 42
                        +7
                        Quote: Liam
                        In addition, I suspect that for you they are all on one face (black),

                        This is 100% true. My personal opinion is that blacks are only in Africa. As they wrote in one book, they all were caught and brought to Africa. We drew two borders, one near Algeria, the other near South Africa and brought to the notice of all dark-skinned people that upon crossing these borders the guards would shoot without warning. And the question of multiculturalism is removed.
                      8. bubalik
                        bubalik 14 June 2020 20: 49
                        +4
                        then blacks place only in Africa.

                        Crossing these borders, guards will fire without warning.

                        ,,, yeah, something reminds. No.
                        Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein,
                        und das heißt Erika.
                      9. Alf
                        Alf 14 June 2020 20: 54
                        +2
                        Quote: bubalik
                        then blacks place only in Africa.

                        Crossing these borders, guards will fire without warning.

                        ,,, yeah, something reminds. No.
                        Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein,
                        und das heißt Erika.

                        Mikhail Mikheev Raider.
                    2. Liam
                      Liam 14 June 2020 20: 52
                      +2
                      One politician from the middle of the last century proclaimed these methods and applied them to Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs.
                    3. bk0010
                      bk0010 14 June 2020 21: 17
                      +3
                      Quote: Liam
                      One politician from the middle of the last century proclaimed these methods and applied them to Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs.
                      Yah? And where did Hitler write that Jews, Gypsies and Slavs should not be exterminated, but not allowed to go on their own, even if they themselves live?
                2. hohol95
                  hohol95 14 June 2020 22: 33
                  11
                  If they call me europodim I also get offended?
                  And in response, I will say that a person belongs to the Negroid race and get a knife under the ribs?
                  I don’t distinguish a fulula from a braid or a Hutu from a Tutsi! And the Zulus from the Ethiopian or Eritrean!
  • Legionista
    Legionista 14 June 2020 18: 11
    +5
    Of the 17, most likely a third received a law degree, a third accounting)).

    I think there were a couple of other artists to write “Ne pas uriner” on the walls and fences in a beautiful font. The most common inscription in Africa)
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 24
      +2
      Do not scatter urine? )))
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 36
        +3
        "On pl not scat" (The inscription on the wall of the men's closet at the Drama Theater in Pyatigorsk in 1987, I haven't seen it myself, the mother of my children told me)
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 46
          +2
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          The writing is on the wall

          "Men, use a brush - respect yourself."

          In a very western office in Moscow, in the toilet. I thought a lot recourse
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 54
            +4
            "In a public French toilet,
            There are inscriptions in Russian! "(C)
            I didn’t sin in this quote?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 56
              -1
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              I didn’t sin in this quote?

              No. But what I wrote - I saw in real life. The cleaning lady was ... initiative.

              In the office, the expression "respect with a brush" immediately appeared laughing
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 14
                +3
                "Creative," I would say. laughing
                By the way, thanks, Roman, for your criticism of my citation, I’ve become more attentive. However, as for Vysotsky, the sources differ, and even Vladimir Semenovich, in different audio recordings, and even more so!
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 23
                -1
                Do not hold evil - true, the memory is photographic ...

                But, you see, the call to "respect yourself as a brush" is something good
              3. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 34
                +2
                I agree!
                As for the "incontinence of evil", that's okay. I hope it will continue. As for malice, the closer to the "earth", the less harsh in judgments. As for you, I am impressed that you have a dog.
              4. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 37
                +1
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                I am impressed that you have a dog

                I also have a cat)))

              5. bubalik
                bubalik 14 June 2020 19: 49
                +6
                ,,, Uncle Fedor, is that you? laughing
              6. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 50
                +4
                I know that.
                I have feline armed neutrality with feline. But what is surprising, they come to me all, even the wildest and most frightened, apparently smell a sick body. request
  • bubalik
    bubalik 14 June 2020 15: 11
    +2
    ,,, having been educated, they probably just didn’t return.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 15: 19
      +4
      Of the Emirate’s children who received medical or technical education in Europe or the states, the majority also do not return to fairly prosperous AOEs. )))
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 05
        +5
        Because they don’t rest against Sharia!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 33
          +4
          That's right - no pubs, no money! )))
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 40
            +2
            And women - in hijabs! negative
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 41
              +4
              But with a Mustache)).
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 44
                +3
                I didn’t understand humor ... Is this from the history of intifad?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 54
                  +5
                  This is from the story of watching girls in hijabs
                2. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 14 June 2020 19: 26
                  +7
                  “And she will apply tola under the corset ...
                  Check what gender your neighbor is! ” (with).
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 20: 19
                  +3
                  So Arafat walked unshaven to be like his mother.
                4. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 14 June 2020 21: 33
                  +2
                  A good start to the poem about the Palestinians! Sell ​​to Guberman laughing
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 21: 34
                  +3
                  Yeah ... Huberman is unlikely to thump for his own people, but to pay someone for poetry ...
                6. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 14 June 2020 21: 43
                  +1
                  Pancake! You do not touch the great Russian poet Huberman !!! am laughing
                7. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 21: 49
                  +2
                  Do not spoil Heine! (with)
                8. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 14 June 2020 22: 00
                  +3
                  "Once I dreamed about Afanasy Fet,
                  Beating Ivan Semyonitch Barkov "(C)
                9. bubalik
                  bubalik 14 June 2020 22: 05
                  +3
                  I’m somehow sitting, brothers, with an African,
                  And he, imagine, and says to me:
                  In Russia, they say, it’s cold to swim,
                  Therefore, there is an unsightly view.
                  (C)
                10. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 14 June 2020 22: 34
                  +2
                  "And we have a bummer, eternal winter.
                  Snow and snow all around, gray houses.
                  Ah, Fidel, Fidel, I'm losing my mind.
                  I close my eyes and instantly
                  everyone around is such a torment
                  everyone around is so amigo
                  but I open my eyes and cry. "(C)
  • Legionista
    Legionista 14 June 2020 18: 04
    +6
    why does Africa remain the poorest and least developed continent of the planet?

    It seems to me that in order to answer it, we must go to Africa. Then this question will become rhetorical for you).
    My answer is laziness.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 14 June 2020 18: 11
      +6
      need to go to africa
      negative
      ,,, even Korney Chukovsky warned:
      No way
      Do not go to Africa
      Go to Africa for a walk!
      ,,, and there are rather big fish belay
      1. Alf
        Alf 14 June 2020 20: 35
        +2
        winked
        Quote: bubalik
        ,,, and there are rather big fish

        What kind of monster is this?
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 14 June 2020 20: 41
          +5
          ,,, Goliath fish, lives in a quiet pool of shallow rivers, as well as in transient reservoirs of Africa wassat
          1. Alf
            Alf 14 June 2020 20: 44
            +2
            Quote: bubalik
            ,,, Goliath fish, lives in a quiet pool

            Yeah, in a quiet pool there are devils.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 36
      +7
      Quote: Legionista
      why does Africa remain the poorest and least developed continent of the planet?

      It seems to me that in order to answer it, we must go to Africa. Then this question will become rhetorical for you).
      My answer is laziness.

      Нет!
      Because the white colonizers destroyed the entire research base of the continent, starting with hadron colliders!
      1. Legionista
        Legionista 14 June 2020 18: 53
        +7
        laughing ... and sold it to the Zionists for parts. lol
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 20: 25
          +4
          Quote: Legionista
          laughing ... and sold it to the Zionists for parts. lol

          For a garment factory in Dimona, reminiscent of a nuclear reactor operating on tears of the people of occupied Palestine oppressed by the creators of the Protocol of Zion Wise of Zion am
          1. Legionista
            Legionista 14 June 2020 21: 57
            +5
            The workers of which (the clothing factory) eat matzo, mixed exclusively with the blood of Christian babies and black prodigies who were not allowed to study at schools and universities of the white colonizers)))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 June 2020 22: 16
              +4
              And they sold the Jews to Matzah together with the synchrophasotron from the vicinity of Yaounde, the capital of Cameroon, whose university was plundered by the legionaries Pontius Pilate and the 1er REC regiment! negative
              1. Legionista
                Legionista 14 June 2020 23: 56
                +3
                Well ... now we are going to tell all military secrets of Prokopenko with REN-TV, and our deputy politician Petrenko will remain without work)))
    3. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 46
      +6
      My answer is laziness.
      I agree. Organic rejection of any productive activity, except for copulation.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 14 June 2020 18: 53
        +3
        ,,, and I was thinking what where this nonsense in the army came from.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 14 June 2020 18: 59
          +2
          The most interesting thing is that the translation into "scoops" in SA is very similar to the rite of knighthood in medieval Europe.
      2. Liam
        Liam 14 June 2020 18: 53
        0
        Racism is understood as the belief in the decisive influence of race on the character, morality, talents, abilities and behavioral characteristics of an individual human being.
        So, the Russian scientist Vladimir Malakhov writes in his work “The Modest Charm of Racism”:

        “Racism, which was practiced until the end of the 1933th century (the relapse of which took place in Germany between 1945 and XNUMX), can be called traditional or classical. The racists of our day are hard to suspect of racism. At the level of the declared theses, they are absolutely correct. Count Gobino and his associates believed, in particular, that biological differences were the source of sociocultural differences. They established a relationship of determination between “race” (biological affiliation) and “civilization” (cultural affiliation). They believed that the thinking and behavior of individuals is determined (or, more precisely, predetermined) by the essential characteristics of the groups to which these individuals belong. The main of these postulates is the incomprehensibility of difference. "
        Victor Schnirelman writes that the modern “new racism” focuses on a culture that is biologized and perceived as something innate and unchangeable. According to these notions, a person is considered not as an individual, rapidly changing in accordance with the environment and adapting to it, but as a member of some ethnic or even civilizational community, which mechanically reproduces the stereotypes of behavior of this community. French political scientist and historian of ideas Pierre-Andre Tagieff (Fr.) coined the term "differential racism" to distinguish between the idea of ​​a higher / lower race and the idea of ​​insurmountable differences / incompatibilities between large communities


        Something like this ... It is worth all of us to think about it
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 June 2020 18: 59
          +7
          What does racism have to do with it? laughing
          Somehow I flashed the products of a company whose head was a French Senegalese, a brilliantly educated person, a wonderful businessman. The question is what would happen to him if his parents had not been brought to France))
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 June 2020 19: 11
            +3
            You probably met more than once with people who explained to you that you are personally a great guy, but your people have questions)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 June 2020 20: 13
              +6
              I met more than once laughing
              1. Liam
                Liam 14 June 2020 20: 41
                +2
                This is pretty humiliating)
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 June 2020 20: 49
                  +5
                  No, I explained that the nation is great, and I’m not a very good guy. laughing
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 14 June 2020 20: 56
                    +2
                    You understand what I mean. Remarks about the fact that there are separate outstanding personalities do not remove the essence of the problem. On the contrary, they deepen even)
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 21: 05
                      +3
                      Yes, I went through all this. 25 years living in a multicultural country, he stopped paying attention to this in principle. There is not so much respect for another culture. it is ... a mixture of oriental cuisine and slang with American pop and serials, Western psychological analysis and a management culture with Russian and not only classical literature and music ... in short, from a little bit of everything, the person’s origin doesn’t care.
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 04
          +2
          I'll think about it. Perhaps the result of these thoughts will not lead me to multiculturalism, but quite the contrary.
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 June 2020 19: 09
            +2
            There are many words that have become a fetish and stereotypes and the meaning of which we do not even think about. In RuNet, as an example, this is Liberalism or Multiculturalism.
            Multiculturalism at the household level is just an ordinary respect for another person and nothing more
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 25
              +2
              One of the famous Russian Koreans wrote about this:
              "Busy with idleness, playing with words" (C)
              1. Liam
                Liam 14 June 2020 19: 32
                +3
                I just start a new day, I go, cast a shadow with a sassy face.
                Evening will come, I’ll go to bed again, to get up tomorrow and all over again
                (C)
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 14 June 2020 19: 43
                  +1
                  That's it!
                  Another author at a different time:
                  "And we are with you, as in" Asse ",
                  We stand on the Yalta highway
                  The pasik broke in the tape recorder
                  Was this change I was expecting? "(C)
        3. Engineer
          Engineer 14 June 2020 20: 15
          +3
          Something like this ... It is worth all of us to think about it

          So we thought that even a little read on the topic.
          Like hundreds of millions of other residents, I tend to think that a person should perceive the cultural code of the society in which he is at the moment. Provided, of course, that within the framework of this code no crimes such as "honor killings" are committed. This is natural, it is based on respect for someone else's personality, but above all it is based on respect for oneself and one's culture. It would seem that there is nothing wrong with this paradigm, there is no proclamation of the primacy of one culture over another?
          No, they answer in the West, you are still a racist. Only cultural. You advocate the preservation of cultural differences, you do not approve of "diaspora type" migrations. Feel the fraudulent trick? Without even starting a discussion, the position has already been called "racism." Thus, the initial stigmatization of this point of view is carried out.
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 June 2020 20: 29
            +1
            Quote: Engineer
            No, they answer in the West, you're racist anyway

            Currently, an open expression of racist views is considered politically unacceptable. However, such views continue to be expressed more or less veiled. Modern racism can distance itself from biological terminology and not claim the superiority of some groups over others. The idea of ​​superiority is being replaced by the idea of ​​"incompatibility" of civilizations, the assertion that representatives of different "cultures" are radically different in spiritual terms and should not be mixed in order to preserve these differences....
            New racism emphasizes group (ethnic or ethno-racial) identity, absolutizing its meaning. In Russia, it was the ethnic factor that has been associated for decades with some form of discrimination similar to racial....
            Proponents of this approach are fighting for the preservation of "pure cultures" and cultural identities, oppose any external influence on them .....
            it doesn’t matter what these properties are called - "folk spirit", "cultural type", the properties of "race". All these designations perform the same function that “blood” (or “genes”) performs in classical racism: they imply the inheritance of social traits. Researchers cite the biological understanding of nationality, the concept of a nation as a community of “blood,” and the mythologization of an imaginary group associated with this concept as a special human species as characteristic features of modern racism.
            .
            PySy. All these passages are from the work of Russian researchers. Not one Western)
            1. Engineer
              Engineer 14 June 2020 20: 39
              +2
              From what you bring, it is clear that these researchers entirely reproduce Western works.
              For example this
              https://www.berghahnbooks.com/title/EvensEuropes
              In general, the term "cultural racism" appeared already in 1981
              author Martin Barker, British
              1. Liam
                Liam 14 June 2020 20: 47
                +1
                Well, then the problem is not new)
                And it will not be resolved soon. The other day, battles here were about American events. And everyone (including those who on all other topics on opposite sides of the barricades) unanimously reached a consensus that it would be better to give the cops the right to limit themselves, to kill with motive and without any special ones, to beat and put on a bottle if only one showcase on Tverskaya was not affected)
                1. Engineer
                  Engineer 14 June 2020 20: 56
                  +4
                  And not soon resolved

                  Allowed in the end. My position is doomed to defeat like any anti-globalist agenda. There are no and do not need any Zion wise men, Zhidomasons, State Department and reptilians. Just social evolution in action. Democracy is ideal for a scheme to let in a million migrants - legalize - flirt - get votes for left parties.
                  However, I am far from blaming the leftists for everything. For example, the demographic transformation of modern Britain is a direct consequence of the Commonwealth when, for example, a Kenyan has a simplified entry, unlike the Argentinean. This is also social evolution, just another aspect.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 14 June 2020 21: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Engineer
                    let in a million migrants - legalize - flirt - get votes for left parties

                    Who told you that naturalized migrants vote for the left?). You are very mistaken. On the contrary, they are mostly right-wingers, quite radical and in the front ranks of those who are against new migrants. The most uncompromising opponents of immigration to the EU are former socialist camp countries who were just the same immigrants to the EU just a couple of decades ago, and many still remain)
                    PySy. The most numerous waves of legalization of migrants in the EU countries are the work of the "hands" of the right governments. About the leftists, this is again Runet stereotypes)
                    1. Engineer
                      Engineer 14 June 2020 21: 10
                      +5
                      In France, as far as I can tell, that’s it. Left bias means targeting migrants including
                      The most numerous waves of legalization of migrants in the EU countries are the work of the "hands" of the right-wing governments.

                      Yes, formally "right" Merkel will give odds to any Ilyich.
                      Leftist ideas are firmly implemented even in a conservative mind. Complete victory
                      Everyone needs voices, not just left)))
                    2. Liam
                      Liam 14 June 2020 21: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: Engineer
                      In France

                      In France, the main influx of migrants began under the right Chirac and continued under the ultra-right Sarkozy and center-right Macron) .In Italy, the main sanatoriums of 2003 and 2009 were legalized by millions of immigrant-right Berlusconi in a coalition with post-fascist Fini and ultra-radical from the North Bossi League). 3 European countries in recent 4 years rule right if that.
                      Quote: Engineer
                      Everyone needs votes, not just left)

                      You are pushing too much on ideology, and everything is easier - you need working hands (and brains). And migrants basically go to work in the small and medium private sector, which (unexpectedly) is the main electoral base of the right
                    3. Engineer
                      Engineer 14 June 2020 21: 24
                      +3
                      You push too much on ideology

                      Probably created the wrong impression. The main idea is, nevertheless, in politics, ideology is secondary. And besides, there is a right-left in politics and economics. Therefore, just hanging labels I do not get closer to the point.
                      Need hands (and brains)

                      Yes. I didn’t write it myself, so I’m reading it now. Economic growth and nation-state are extremely difficult to combine. Therefore, multiculturalism is inevitable in the long run.
                    4. Liam
                      Liam 14 June 2020 21: 43
                      +1
                      Quote: Engineer
                      And besides, there is right-left in politics and economics

                      To summarize and simplify the right / left, it differs only in the issue of state participation in the economy and society. The left believes that it should be more, and the right - less. The immigration issue is not such an important divide between the right and left. It is rather the favorite skate of the third radical forces of sovranists / populists. Trump, Bolsonaru, Lepin, post-fascists in Germany. But this topic only earns points when the economy has less openwork and you can wave your sabers. But there was a thunder with a pandemic and the sovranists in power (Trump and Bolsonaru) are liquid managed .. for tweeting on Twitter, not carrying bags
                    5. Engineer
                      Engineer 14 June 2020 21: 46
                      +1
                      I know that all.
                      But
                      post-fascists in Germany

                      Are you AfD so attached?
        4. bk0010
          bk0010 14 June 2020 21: 23
          +1
          Quote: Liam
          Well, then the problem is not new)
          And not soon resolved.
          Very soon: the spring is compressed, it will soon go in the opposite direction. Racism will cease to be something bad and will become a synonym for justice, and racism will become a people's advocate.
  • hohol95
    hohol95 14 June 2020 14: 29
    +2
    WikiWiki
    The Dogs of War is a novel by Frederick Forsyth. The heroes of the work are mercenaries charged with overthrowing a government in one of the African countries and establishing a puppet regime. The book gives the impression of a documentary narrative, since the story is based on the military impressions of the author himself. Like other works by Forsyth, the novel “Dogs of War” is a financial and political detective story.

    From the book itself -
    The federal MIG-17, a night fighter led by probably one of the six pilots in East Germany, recently sent to replace the Egyptians, who were afraid to fly at night, roared west with a roar. He was not visible behind a veil of clouds, just as the pilot did not see the runway beneath him. He looked out for the treacherous flashing of the landing lights, giving a signal to the aircraft, but they had already gone out.

    Interesting in reasoning and planning the operation committed by the main character!
    And the fear of a Western company about the appearance of "tough guys from the KGB" to seize the platinum deposit.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 14 June 2020 17: 07
      +2
      I have only Forsythe: I read "The Day of the Jackal" and he had a profound effect on me.
      He will have to see what else he has interesting?
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 14 June 2020 18: 03
        +4
        - All! "Cobra", "Fist of Allah", "Afghan", "Veteran", "Avenger" .... However, some may find in his books praising the valor of the British (American) soldier ... What to do ... F. Forsyth was born and lived not in Yoshkar-Ola! wink
      2. hohol95
        hohol95 14 June 2020 19: 11
        +1
        BRIDGE THROUGH THE QUAI RIVER - PIERRE BOULE
        Recommend! The bridge is still standing!
        Hard labor was used in the construction of the road. The working and living conditions were terrible. About 180 thousand Asian convicts and 60 thousand prisoners of war of the anti-Hitler coalition built the Death Road. During construction, about 90 thousand Asian convicts and 16 thousand prisoners of war died from hunger, disease, and abuse. Among the deceased prisoners of war there were: 6318 British, 2815 Australians, 2490 Dutch, 356 Americans and several Canadians. The construction of the Thai-Burmese railway was recognized as a war crime. Hiroshi Abe - Overwatch Camp Overseer Sonkrai was found guilty of the death of 3000 prisoners and sentenced to 15 years in prison.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 14 June 2020 19: 26
          0
          - So it’s after WWII ... British commandos in Burma ...
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 14 June 2020 22: 07
            +1
            There is not only a commando, but also the decisions and behavior of an officer commanding British prisoners of war!
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 14 June 2020 22: 42
              +1
              - So who was let down by his understanding of the notorious "white burden"! smile
              1. hohol95
                hohol95 14 June 2020 22: 51
                +1
                Parenting obligated ...
                After all, they "graduated from conservatories" in contrast to "Russian lapotniki"!
                On warspot.ru described the defense of Singapore.
                One of the high commanders forbade his officers to arrange shoots before surrendering, and he himself quietly washed off leaving his surrendering unit! And sailed to Australia!
                And after all nobody was shot for this - only then they asked some of the army! British democracy!
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 14 June 2020 23: 02
                  0
                  - And how many officers, in all modern history, have been executed for any misconduct?
                  1. hohol95
                    hohol95 14 June 2020 23: 06
                    +1
                    In which countries?
                    How many were shot by the French for the attempts on de Gaulle?
                    Perhaps the former, but with decent track records!
                    1. saygon66
                      saygon66 14 June 2020 23: 15
                      0
                      - We don’t take ours - this is a separate story. For the assassination attempts the Germans also shot ... For, say, catastrophic omissions in the service ...
                      - The same lt. Kelly and Mr. Medina got off quite easily
                      1. hohol95
                        hohol95 14 June 2020 23: 18
                        0
                        This is how our ancestors fought "separately" from the rest of the "democratic" ones!
                        The Soviet command has repeatedly raised the issue of the "defiant behavior" of the Americans and the facts of the use of weapons against the soldiers and officers of the Red Army. General Frank Parks, who promised to investigate these incidents, at the same time recalled the American proverb: "Whoever takes out a pistol first will live a long time"... None of the Americans were ultimately responsible.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 15 June 2020 16: 39
          +1
          And I love American cinema (70s and 80s for WWII. "The bridge is somewhere near (The bridge is too far)." And what actors ??? - Conori, Redford, Kane, Hopkins, Hackman, Shell, Lawrence Olivier !!! Constellation.
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 15 June 2020 16: 49
            +1
            Tastes could not be discussed... good
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 16 June 2020 09: 42
              +2
              If you haven't seen it, I advise you to look. I recommend this movie. "The bridge is too far."
              1. hohol95
                hohol95 16 June 2020 16: 43
                +1
                hi Thank you!
                I will try to see! But I do not rebel against American cinema! If you like the film - I watch, I do not like it - I do not watch! I rarely watch modern ones and only on TV!
                In the cinema, we are watching only cartoons with my daughter!
                I began to "digest" domestic films with difficulty.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 19 June 2020 13: 11
                  0
                  Well, this is old American. Shot realistically. And a whole constellation was filmed in it - I have listed above. In one film, and such actors !!!
  • iouris
    iouris 14 June 2020 15: 07
    +2
    Here in "this" RF and "entered". The White Man's Mission continues. And Africa is finally free. From everything.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 14 June 2020 16: 30
    +1
    What are the British, what are the French, what are the Bilgians - THE SAME PIGS!
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 14 June 2020 17: 23
      +7

      You'll like it)
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 14 June 2020 16: 44
    +1
    And in one of the villages called Kalamatadi, he found a young man ... half eaten by cannibals.

    They ate it for so long that even before the arrival of the detachment of punishers, they left a piece? It is clear that cannibals must be weaned from their bad habits in very convincing ways, but the original phrase (probably from the report on spent money) looks too strange.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 14 June 2020 17: 03
    +2
    Quote: apro
    Quote: ignoto
    The British Empire was a PERFECTLY LOSSING ENTERPRISE.

    I willingly believe .... I myself am so.
    In the 90s, the director of the winery also cried in the program ... how did he sell vodka to the people at a loss ...

    Twice I believed it, so that vodka was sold at a loss
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 14 June 2020 17: 21
      +5
      There are some points to consider.
      1. What period of colonialism is considered. It is one thing when it comes to a network of military-trading strongholds on the coast and operations through corporations (such as the East India). Quite another - when it comes to the development and administration of thousands of square kilometers and the creation of a complex structured state colonial empire. The state can do a lot of unprofitable, but necessary. That is its difference from a commercial enterprise. Relatively speaking, the state is building a railway for military-strategic purposes, and a commercial contractor makes money on its construction. Ultimately, this can also be profitable, because if the road is built on time and where necessary, there appears a lever of pressure on competitors by military force, and, therefore, support of their business.
      2. Unprofitability for the state budget does not mean, however, loss-making for individuals or groups of persons. The French colonies in North America in the 18th century brought incredible losses to the royal treasury, in reality they were just "golden" in content. At the same time, dozens of people made fortunes).
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 14 June 2020 17: 38
    +8
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Let's just say - these guys initially did not have a craving for higher education, and indeed education in general.

    Why do they need education? Of course, racism, colonialism is a big disgust, but if you think about it, 2/3 of Africans still prefer to live like 300 and 400 years ago.
    There is a university in our city and a hostel for foreign students was built there. As a child, I looked at that hostel as a miracle of the world, and after 7-8 months, black students turned it into a terrible garbage dump.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 14 June 2020 18: 06
    0
    "later wrote a book:" Modern Mercenaries "I wonder how he rates himself? Perhaps" I am the only person among the brutes? "
  • CTABEP
    CTABEP 14 June 2020 18: 21
    0
    It was an interesting time ...
  • DeKo
    DeKo 14 June 2020 18: 27
    0
    One thing is not clear, if the Legion was so cool, why did the French surrender so quickly?
  • bubalik
    bubalik 14 June 2020 18: 27
    +3
    As a result, the population of the Congo from 1885 to 1908. decreased from 20 to 10 million people

    ,,, one caveat.
    In the years 1884-85. A conference of European powers is convening in Berlin to divide the territories of Central Africa. Thanks to skillful intrigues, King Leopold II receives in your property an area of ​​2,3 million square kilometers belay on the south bank of the Congo River and founds there the so-called. Congo Free State.

    Subsequently, photographs taken by missionaries of devastated villages and crippled Africans, including women and children, were shown to the world and had a huge impact on the formation of public opinion, under the pressure of which 1908 the king was forced to sell his possessions to the state of Belgium.
    At this point, he was one of the richest people in Europe. yes
  • bubalik
    bubalik 14 June 2020 19: 14
    +2
    Thomas Michael Hoar
    ,,, wow, he lived 100 years belay
    1. VLR
      14 June 2020 19: 46
      +3
      Yes, died February 2, 2020 smile
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 14 June 2020 23: 19
        0
        - Denard lived to 82, and Falk to 87 ... it seems ...
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 14 June 2020 20: 29
    +2
    Thank you Valery! Ever tried to understand what guides these people in choosing a life path? Mercantile, do not offer!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Thank you Valery! Ever tried to understand what guides these people in choosing a life path? Mercantile, do not offer!

      Existence in the familiar hierarchical structure + adrenaline is another drug.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 14 June 2020 21: 28
        +1
        I didn't think about the hierarchical structure. By the way, read O.Divov "Technical support", there, in the final there are a couple of phrases on this topic.
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 14 June 2020 21: 38
      +2
      - Is it because "... one hour full of glorious accomplishments is worth a whole century of inaction!" (C).
  • Alf
    Alf 14 June 2020 20: 46
    +1
    There's also a great Wild Geese movie with Roger Moore. Just on this topic.
    1. Alf
      Alf 15 June 2020 19: 51
      0
      Quote: Alf
      There's also a great Wild Geese movie with Roger Moore. Just on this topic.

      Interestingly, the minuser was watching this movie at all?
  • Operator
    Operator 14 June 2020 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: Liam
    New racism emphasizes group (ethnic or ethno-racial) identity, absolutizing its meaning. In Russia, it was the ethnic factor that has been associated for decades with some form of discrimination similar to racial

    The author is the "Russian scientist" Shnirelman. Damn, the ethnic identity of the Russians confused him - like discriminating against someone (Shnirelman, obviously), it must be canceled. It is interesting what Israel would have done with such a "scientist" if he had begun to promote his idea of ​​the ethnic identification of Jews as a factor in discrimination against local Arabs.

    Naturally, there can be no racism in the linguistic and cultural difference of ethnic groups, especially those belonging to the same race, by definition. Another thing is that different peoples at the same moment in time can be at different levels of civilizational development (for example, Russians and Kyrgyz). Discrimination in this case is the artificial inhibition of the development of the lagging people, but it is the Russians who have never been noticed (we rather went too far in the opposite direction during the Soviet era).

    Another thing is Western Europeans, who sought to colonize the peoples of Africa, America and Asia by freezing or lowering their level of civilizational development.

    At the same time, individual ethnic groups without any external pressure themselves seek to freeze their civilizational development - a vivid example of this is the Jews, whose xenophobic religion automatically pushes to the margins of civilizational development. Scientific and cultural achievements were achieved only by those Jews who refused voluntary closure in their small-town purely Asian mentality and joined European civilization.

    It will be useful for Shnirelman to change Russia to Western Europe or America (not to mention the xenophobic "historical homeland") in order to feel the difference between the attitude of Russians and African Americans / Arab Europeans towards themselves.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 June 2020 21: 43
      +4
      It is interesting what Israel would have done with such a "scientist" if he had begun to promote his idea of ​​the ethnic identification of Jews as a factor in discrimination against local Arabs.
      Nothing - there have long been such ideas among the left of Israel, moreover, there were such Knaanians who believed that the Arabs were closer to the Israelis than the Jews who came from Europe)).
      At the same time, individual ethnic groups without any external pressure themselves seek to freeze their civilizational development - a vivid example of this is the Jews whose xenophobic religion automatically pushes to the sidelines of civilizational development

      In what place is it xenophobic if anyone can become a Jew by accepting a giyur?
      1. Operator
        Operator 14 June 2020 21: 46
        +1
        Israeli historians would have poisoned Shnirelman, hadn’t you gone to a fortuneteller.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 15 June 2020 06: 08
          +2
          There are more marginal theories and personalities - in FIG they fell to someone)))
  • Graz
    Graz 14 June 2020 22: 54
    0
    I think the author is trying to somewhat idealize this path of mercenaryism, it is somewhat immoral
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 15 June 2020 00: 14
      +3
      What, in your opinion, is the "idealization of the path"? The author simply avoids the use of established cliches, such as “sadists”, “alcoholics and psychopaths”, “murderers with arms to the elbow in the blood”, in the description of such personalities.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 June 2020 02: 21
    0
    Quote: Legionista
    To my regret, and this is absolutely without irony, my keywords are “AIRBUS, Moët & Chandon, THALES”.

    AIRBUS-Although the company is considered a “European” aircraft manufacturer, from a legal point of view it is a French legal entity with headquarters in Blagnac (a suburb of Toulouse, France). In 2001, according to the laws of France, it was merged into a joint-stock company or SAS. Airbus employs about 50 thousand people and is concentrated mainly in four European countries: France, Germany, Great Britain, Spain. Final assembly of products is carried out at the company's factories in the cities of Toulouse (France) and Hamburg (Germany). laughing You always beat your head when you get up.
  • ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 15 June 2020 03: 29
    +1
    "The Man Who Laughs" is a film that consists entirely of a conversation with Müller himself, which the Gdrow journalist took from him under the guise of frg.
  • hohol95
    hohol95 15 June 2020 09: 29
    0
    Dear forum users! And this "20th century condottier", who knows?
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 15 June 2020 10: 35
      +3
      Alexander Filippenko. "Return of the resident" good
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 15 June 2020 14: 07
        0
        “End of Operation Resident”
  • ser56
    ser56 15 June 2020 16: 20
    +1
    Thanks to the author! the topic is not hackneyed, it is written readable! love
  • Captan78
    Captan78 15 June 2020 19: 58
    +1
    Fine! I read it with pleasure, it seems like history is already, but it is real, the author undoubtedly respects!
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 16 June 2020 18: 09
    +1
    Quote: hohol95
    So please answer me - can a human child (white) learn English from the ABC book without any explanation from the outside? And while living among the giant monkeys!
    In a way that could not be analyzed, he had already groped for the key to the mystery of the mysterious little insects so embarrassing him.
    A primer was lying in front of him, and in the primer there was a drawing depicting a small monkey. This monkey was like himself, but, with the exception of his hands and face, was covered with some kind of funny colored fur. Tarzan mistook a man’s suit for fur! Seven small insects were visible above the picture:
    Boy.
    And he noticed that in the text, on the same page, these seven insects repeated many times in the same order.
    Then he realized that there were relatively few individual insects, but that they were repeated many times - sometimes alone, and more often accompanied by others.
    He slowly turned the pages, peering at the pictures and text, and was looking for a repetition of the familiar combination of ahhhhhh. So he again found it under a different picture: there again was a small monkey and with it some unknown animal, standing on all four paws and resembling a jackal. Under this pattern, the insects were composed in such a combination:
    M-ah
    So these seven little insects always accompanied the little monkey!
    Thus, the teachings of Tarzan advanced. True, it went very, very slowly, because, without knowing it, he set himself a difficult and painstaking job that you or I would have thought impossible: he wanted to learn to read without having the slightest idea of ​​letters or writing and never hearing of them.

    And he learned to read! Having no idea about the pronunciation of letters !!!
    And the pronunciation of their combinations and this is in English ...
    And why be surprised - he is WHITE and from noble British parents!
    Naturally, the indigenous inhabitants of the black continent in all books about Tarzan are described as cannibals and very primitive creatures!
    And the self-taught Tarzan received his rightful title of Lord Greystock.

    Burroughs Should Ask About This
  • Major48
    Major48 22 June 2020 01: 12
    0
    Friends, be careful, the article is filled with erroneous information. Mercenary operations in Katanga 1951-1965 and Congo 1964 - 1965 are two different stories connected by common actors. Denard in Katanga was the novice commander of a small team of mercenaries, like Michael Khor. In all literature, there is the name Folk, not Fulk. A very unsuccessful compilation of well-known articles in some places.