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Trophy armored vehicles Wehrmacht. USA

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First american Tanks fell into the hands of the Germans in North Africa. These were the lightweight MZ Stuart and the medium MZ Grant, which entered the arsenal of the 8th British Army. In 1942, the Panzerwaffe trophies were also individual American tanks of these types, which fought on the Eastern Front. Directly from the Americans, armored vehicles fought off in Tunisia, Italy and Northwest Europe.


The first Shermans were captured by the Germans in the 1942 year from the British and Russians, and in relatively large numbers in the 1944 year in France. The Shermans arrived in Africa on the eve of the battle at El Alamein, after which the German troops retreated all the time, the battlefield was left for the British and the Germans could not capture the newest American tank. They succeeded only in Tunisia at the end of February 1943. Captured "Sherman" was delivered to Germany. On the Eastern Front, the captured Shermans were occasionally used by the Wehrmacht. Only one case of the formation of a platoon of five tanks of this type captured from the Red Army is known. Already in the first weeks of fighting with the Allied troops in Normandy, many German units acquired subdivisions of the captured Shermans. For example, in the 21-th tank division there were four "Sherman", the same in the 25-th motorized division. Ten Shermans fought in the 10 Panzer Division of the SS Frundsberg, six in the 5 Parachute-Chasseurs Division. In other parts of the Wehrmacht and the SS troops on the Western Front, as a rule, there was one or two cars of this type. And it could be both American captured tanks, and the Sherman Fayeflay captured from the British. The latter were especially appreciated by the Germans because of the exceptional ballistic qualities of the English 17-pound cannon.

One of the first Stewart tanks captured by the Germans from the British in November 1941, in front of General Rommel's headquarters. North Africa, January 1942 of the year


German tankers master the captured American tank MZA1. Tunisia, 1942 year. Car - in multi-color American camouflage painting


American tank MZ, delivered to the USSR under the Lend-Lease. This car was captured by the Germans in the 1942 year on the Eastern Front, and then delivered to the Kummersdorf test site.


Trophy American tank M4A1 from the 3-th motorized division of the Wehrmacht. Italy, 1944 year


British officers inspect the group seized from the Germans Sherman tanks. In the middle of the group is the Sherman Fayeflay tank. Normandy, 1944 year



Trophy tank "Sherman Fayeflay" in one of the parts of the Wehrmacht in Normandy, 1944 year. On the turret of this tank five crosses are applied, on the body - two more!


Special mention should be made of the SS 150 Tank Brigade, commanded by SS Ober-Sturmbannführer SS Otto Skorzeny. This brigade was intended to conduct combat and sabotage operations in the rear of the Allied forces. It recruited soldiers who know English, they were armed with trophy weapons, were equipped with trophy vehicles and were dressed in the American military uniform. It is known mainly for the episode associated with the re-equipment of four tanks "Panther", so that they look like American tank destroyers МХNUMX. Why it was needed is not entirely clear: in the Wehrmacht there were real trophy American SAUs M10. Among other things, as part of the 10-th SS tank brigade there were ten Sherman tanks.

Armaments of American production, captured from the US allies in the anti-Hitler coalition, and directly from the Americans, were in service with certain parts of the Wehrmacht. These were the M8 armored vehicles - Panzerspahwagen 8 (a) and half-track armored vehicles of various brands.

Both were used by the Germans mainly in the final stage of the war.

Trophy American armored personnel carrier MH in Wehrmacht. Tunisia, 1943 year. The machine is armed with a cannon of unknown sample, established, apparently, by the Germans



American M8 armored vehicles seized by the Germans at the end of 1944 in northern France
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  1. avt
    avt 28 May 2013 09: 25 New
    +7
    good Continuation of a great photo shoot.
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 28 May 2013 17: 22 New
      +2
      And I liked it.
  2. RoadRunner
    RoadRunner 28 May 2013 09: 28 New
    +3
    The article, as usual, is at the level of the author +.
    I look forward to the most interesting part lol
    “Sherman Firefly” is given to me in the photo painted with crosses either because of the “unusualness” of the trophy, or the crosses are drawn in the places of penetration (which is generally nonsense)
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 May 2013 14: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: RoadRunner
      “Sherman Firefly” is given to me in the photo painted with crosses either because of the “unusualness” of the trophy, or the crosses are drawn in the places of penetration (which is generally nonsense)

      Most likely, that the tank’s affiliation from all angles was visible, otherwise it’s very likely that they will be crushed.
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 28 May 2013 21: 07 New
        +1
        I completely agree - the ratio in technology between the Wehrmacht and the Allies was in favor of the Allies (by a huge margin).
  3. spd2001
    spd2001 28 May 2013 09: 48 New
    +2
    Well, here is the Sherman Firefly. Still more American than English smile And I already saw some photos in the comments to the last article. bully
    1. Kars
      Kars 28 May 2013 10: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: spd2001
      Well, here is the Sherman Firefly. Still more American than English

      This is just a mistake.
      Great tank robbery. Hitler's captured armor
      Anthony Tucker-Jones
      The volume of American tank production meant that the re-use by Germans of captured equipment of transatlantic origin was inevitable. Surprisingly, this was much smaller than expected. The Germans used American light tanks M5, medium tanks M4 and armored vehicles M8 and a half-track tank MZ, but on a very special basis. In France, the Germans even used British Sherman Firefly tanks with a 17-pound gun captured in battles in Normandy, but all this was also done on an individual basis.


      Along the way, there are just a few photos with American trophies. I, for example, have no American Sherman.
      1. spd2001
        spd2001 28 May 2013 12: 03 New
        0
        Please tell me if the article was called "Trophy armored vehicles of the Red Army." To which part of this article would you personally attribute this photograph: Wehrmacht, Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia or the Czech Republic?
        trophy light tank train
        1. Kars
          Kars 28 May 2013 15: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: spd2001
          Please tell me if the article was called "Trophy armored vehicles of the Red Army." To which part of this article would you personally attribute this photograph: Wehrmacht, Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia or the Czech Republic?

          and it will be a captured German tank. I’ll even name the main reason because it was adopted by the German army, and was captured from the Germans, and the firefly was not in service with the United States
          1. Kars
            Kars 28 May 2013 15: 44 New
            +2
            Even that will be German
          2. spd2001
            spd2001 28 May 2013 15: 54 New
            +1
            I have no more questions.
            I will just give you some excerpts in the form of information, and everyone will make conclusions for himself:
            "In addition to Germany, these tanks were in service with the armies of Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Hungary. They served in the Romanian army until the end of the war."
            In October 1941, the 1st Armored Division was formed in Hungary. When in 1942 the division went to the Eastern Front in its 30th tank regiment, along with 19 Hungarian Toldi tanks, there were 89 Pz.38 (t) tanks. In total, Hungary received 111 combat vehicles of this type from Germany - 105 linear tanks and six commander tanks. Most of them were waiting for the sad end - the 1st Armored Division, which fell under the hammer of the Soviet offensive at Stalingrad, was completely destroyed. "
            I don’t know from what you concluded that the tanks in the photo were captured from the Germans. Production of the Czech Republic, in service with a number of countries, and the tank is German .... By the way, a machine gun from Czech to Soviet was replaced on these tanks, maybe the tank is Russian ?! On this, I close this topic for myself. Thank! I understood you. hi
            1. Kars
              Kars 28 May 2013 16: 07 New
              +1
              Let's take a break.
              Quote: spd2001
              "In addition to Germany, these tanks were in service with the armies of Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Hungary. They served in the Romanian army until the end of the war."

              But this does not change their nationality for Germany, which occupied Czechoslovakia, and continued to manufacture tanks Prague with its own changes. I did not hear, for example, that when Pz.38 (t) was transferred to the Hungarian army, technical changes were made there that allowed to assign its own name to the modification as it was with Sherman firefly. etc.
              Quote: spd2001
              By the way, on these tanks the machine gun was replaced from Czech to Soviet, can the tank be Russian?

              They compared the machine gun to the gun by changing the mask, the number of crew, etc. The same can be applied to the Lend-Lease tank that the Germans captured on the Eastern Front from the Red Army, will we expect them in the article Weapons Wehrmacht of the USSR?
              Quote: spd2001
              On this, I close this topic for myself. Thank! I understood you

              I doubt very much, but for example, I brought two sources where Sherman Firefly is referred to as a British tank, but you did not bring anything written, where the American tank Sherman Firefly is clearly written.
    2. sscha
      sscha 28 May 2013 14: 34 New
      0
      It’s simple - it’s to make it more visible to your own, otherwise it will be whipped to the caliber .... hi
  4. IRBIS
    IRBIS 28 May 2013 12: 30 New
    +3
    To the author - thanks for the hard work.
  5. Zubr
    Zubr 28 May 2013 13: 34 New
    +1
    smile It would also be interesting to know the crew reviews about this armored vehicle. I hope in the archives under a layer of dust or in diaries and memoirs. We look forward to continuing ... hi
  6. Genady1976
    Genady1976 28 May 2013 17: 30 New
    +2
    but what a monster
    1. spd2001
      spd2001 28 May 2013 19: 44 New
      +1
      English tractor. Suspension design by S. Horstman and Captain Rocky, Slow Motion Suspension Co. Ltd. Also used on Valentine. Similar to A10, but not him. I think Kars should know this monster. For me, this is some kind of hybrid))) Where did you find this? It became interesting to me)))
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 28 May 2013 20: 27 New
        0
        Yandex, Pictures, Trophy tanks in the Wehrmacht.
        and it popped up
        1. spd2001
          spd2001 28 May 2013 20: 52 New
          +1
          Yet this is apparently a variation of A 10. With increased armor. The tower, as if from the A9. I bow to the fact that this is A 10. Where is Kars, when is it really needed ?!)))
          1. spd2001
            spd2001 28 May 2013 21: 14 New
            +1
            “Modification of the tank under the designation Mk.2A (Mk.IIA) or A10, Mk.IA was made in the greatest quantity. Some cruising tanks Mk.2A (Mk.IIA) were produced to directly support the infantry and was armed with a 76,2 mm howitzer.
            Cruising tanks Mk.2 (Mk.II) took part in the fighting in France in 1940, in North Africa and Greece in 1941. "

            I think this particular modification in the photo
        2. spd2001
          spd2001 28 May 2013 21: 10 New
          +1
          By 1940, the Vickers company, based on the Mk.I or A9 cruising tank, had developed a new model of the A10 cruising tank. The development of this machine began in 1934. The tank had a mass of 13,97 tons, a maximum armor thickness of 30 mm. Machine-gun turrets were absent. Paired with a 40-mm cannon and Vickers course machine guns had a caliber of 7,7 mm, but from the second half of 1940 the cruising tank Mk.2 / Mk.II was equipped with 7,92 mm Bes machine guns. Initially, the tank was called an infantry, but by the time production began in 1940, it was renamed the heavy cruising tank Mk.2 (Mk.II), A10.
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 28 May 2013 21: 12 New
        +1
        This is an English cruising tank (it seems Mark IV) - such vehicles were mainly captured in France and Greece by the Germans. Later, they were pretty quickly replaced by the British in the army on the “Cruiser”.
  7. spd2001
    spd2001 28 May 2013 17: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Kars
    I doubt very much

    Do not doubt, this is true, I will not answer the rest, the topic is closed due to the lack of logic and hopelessness.
    1. Kars
      Kars 28 May 2013 22: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: spd2001
      Do not doubt, this is true, I will not answer the rest, the topic is closed due to the lack of logic and hopelessness.

      why are you so bad about yourself?
      Quote: spd2001
      Where is Kars when you really need it ?!)))
      True))) Well, not fate
      Quote: spd2001
      and Mk.I or A9 developed

      It is A 9 in the first photo.

      The blue book in the upper left corner helps a lot, by the way, Firefly also goes separately in it, when describing Shermans.
      1. spd2001
        spd2001 28 May 2013 22: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        It is A 9 in the first photo.
        And then where are the two machine-gun towers? In more detail, please, if possible.

        Quote: Kars
        why are you so bad about yourself?
        I wrote about you))) If that.
        1. Kars
          Kars 28 May 2013 22: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: spd2001
          And where then are the two machine-gun towers

          Dismantled, the seats are visible, as well as the absence of the armor plate characteristic of the 10
          Quote: spd2001
          I wrote about you))) If that.

          It does not seem that they answered all the same anyway, without having brought a proof where Sherman IIC and Sherman VC are called American tanks.
          1. spd2001
            spd2001 28 May 2013 22: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: Kars
            It does not seem that they answered all the same anyway, without having brought a proof where Sherman IIC and Sherman VC are called American tanks.

            The topic is closed, we don’t understand each other, or rather you are me, therefore, Iskuzy mi.
            1. Kars
              Kars 28 May 2013 22: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: spd2001
              The topic is closed, we don’t understand each other, or rather you are me, therefore, Iskuzy mi.

              It’s a pity, but I would like you to be able to give at least some evidence of your words.
              1. spd2001
                spd2001 28 May 2013 23: 01 New
                +2
                I did not try to prove anything to you, this is your mistake. I made a logical conclusion that you do not want to accept. The fact that you have a book, I'm glad. You have a hobby, that's great. But logic must be present. Lack of logic is a sign of a woman. (Joke)))
          2. spd2001
            spd2001 28 May 2013 22: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Kars
            Dismantled, the seats are visible, as well as the absence of the armor plate characteristic of the 10

            This is what the “Mk II Cruising Tank Captured by the Germans” just found caption for this photo. And here is the source http://pro-tanki.ru/index.php/enlish/eng-kt/mk2
            1. Kars
              Kars 28 May 2013 22: 59 New
              +2
              They answered again, so playfully on Firefly. You can tell if you drop a bone.
              1. spd2001
                spd2001 28 May 2013 23: 12 New
                +1
                On the "firefly" I did not answer you. You also read poorly. I answered you about the reason why I’m not going to discuss this tank with you. I am patient, so I tried again to explain to you. And here, I already found the book that you recommended to me and understood that you are wrong - the “Monster” that we are talking about is the A10 Mk II CS modification, page 31, the second column under the photo, if you can, you can understand that.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 28 May 2013 23: 16 New
                  +2
                  Quote: spd2001
                  On the "firefly" I did not answer you.

                  It's a pity)))
                  Quote: spd2001
                  He told you about the reason why I’m not going to discuss this tank with you.

                  Why?
                  Quote: spd2001
                  whether, I already found and realized that you are wrong- "Monster"

                  ((((
                  Quote: Kars
                  They answered again before. So it would be brisk on Firefly. You can vet if toss you a bone.
          3. spd2001
            spd2001 28 May 2013 22: 56 New
            +1
            http://pro-tanki.ru/index.php/enlish/eng-kt/mk1 там же про А9 . Пока не уверен, но все же считаю, что "чудовище" именно А10
            1. Kars
              Kars 28 May 2013 23: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: spd2001
              I’m not sure yet, but still I think that the “monster” is precisely A10

              Still not sure?)))) Is strange
              1. spd2001
                spd2001 28 May 2013 23: 18 New
                +1
                You look at the time when this my message was written, and what were later. Your sarcasm is not appropriate. You do not know how to read. It's a pity. Could have been a good conversationalist, but alas.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 28 May 2013 23: 20 New
                  +2
                  Quote: spd2001
                  Look at the time this message was written.

                  Which?
                  Quote: spd2001
                  . Your sarcasm is not appropriate.

                  Just in place, smiled as they clung to 9-ku)))
                  Quote: spd2001
                  It's a pity. Could have been a good conversationalist, but alas.

                  crying
                  1. Genady1976
                    Genady1976 29 May 2013 01: 16 New
                    +1
                    Thank you very much to everyone +
  8. svp67
    svp67 28 May 2013 21: 42 New
    +1
    Apparently the "first acquaintance"
  9. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 30 May 2013 18: 51 New
    0
    I love these articles very much. Thank you authors!
  10. rune
    rune 15 February 2017 13: 32 New
    0
    Many thanks to the author for the informative series of articles on this topic.