Armored Hungary World War II. Heavy tank "Tosh"

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After mastering the production of light and medium tanks Hungary made an attempt to create a heavy combat vehicle. The General Staff commissioned the Institute of Military Engineering to design, and it was decided to construct immediately both a heavy tank and a tank destroyer at its base. The project was ready in July 1943, and in August, Manfred Weiss took over the project. The tank received the name Tas ("Tosh") - named after the leader of one of the seven Magyar tribes who came from Asia to Pannonia (the territory of modern Hungary) in the 1944th century. The first prototype without a tower and from non-armored steel was tested in the summer of 27, but on July XNUMX it was destroyed during the bombing of an American plant aviation. The production of the second sample was transferred to the Ganz factory, however, until December 1944, the enterprise ceased its work, the tank was not completed.

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The hull of the tank was assembled by welding from rolled armor plates. Frontal parts of the body had large angles of inclination. The thickness of the front hull sheets reached 100 - 120 mm, onboard - 50. The frontal armor of the turret was 30 mm. In the turret, it was first planned to install a long-barreled 75-mm gun of Hungarian-made 43M, however later they preferred German 75-mm KwK 42 tank gun with 70 barrel lengths of caliber - the same as on Panther tank. Initially, these tools were supposed to be purchased in Germany, then licensed at home. The 8-mm machine gun 34 / 40А was paired with a gun. The tower had electromechanical and manual turning mechanisms. The second 8-mm machine gun was going to be placed in the frontal part of the body, apparently in the same installation as on the Panther version D, however, in the remaining Tosh drawings, there was no machine-gun installation in the body.



New powerful engine for "Tosh" did not have time to create. So I had to put two old Manfred Weiss-Z engines with 260 horsepower. each. The power plant with a total power 520 HP could provide the 38 tank mass with a maximum speed of 45 km / h. Power reserve was 200 km. The engines could work simultaneously for a common planetary transmission of a new type or separately, that is, the tank could move on one engine. The gearbox with multiplier provided eight gears forward and one back. The chassis consisted of six road wheels on board, interlocked in pairs. Elastic suspension element served leaf springs. Caterpillars - wide, 600 mm. On all machines, the installation of the radio station R / 5a was envisaged.

Armored Hungary World War II. Heavy tank "Tosh"


The self-propelled 44М “Tosh” was supposed to be created on a slightly broader base of the same-name tank, but with the same engine-transmission group and running gear. It was planned to arm it with a 88-mm German tank gun KwK 36 and even a KwK 43 gun with a barrel in 71 caliber. The layout of this ACS was similar to the “Jagdpanther”. The front sheet of the hull with a thickness of 120 mm was set at an angle 60 ° to the vertical. The side sheets had a thickness of 50 mm. The combat weight was 36 T, the crew included 4 - 5 people. Self-propelled installation has not left the design stage.

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  1. +9
    April 9 2013 08: 45
    It looks like a "Panther" very much.
    1. +4
      April 9 2013 16: 59
      Magyar moan on Panther or Budapest Wunderval.
      1. Genady1976
        -1
        April 9 2013 19: 11
        What current of garbage they did not have and also the Budapest prodigy.
    2. 0
      April 9 2013 20: 19
      The shape of the hull is very similar to the Soviet light tank T-50. Perhaps, just like the T-50, it would be a very good tank if it began to be mass-produced.
  2. +2
    April 9 2013 08: 49
    Two engines - Echo of the First World War and two hatches in the guise of a gun, but how it wedges
    1. +2
      April 9 2013 09: 29
      What is the first world?
      New powerful engine for Tosha did not have time to create. Therefore, I had to put two old motors
      1. +1
        April 9 2013 12: 07
        Quote: Vadivak
        What is the first world?


        1914-1918. Then practiced the installation of two engines in one tank, later not.

        Quote: cth; fyn
        They did not manage to create a new powerful engine for Tosh


        So what? If you did not create it, then it was not, so two.
        1. +2
          April 9 2013 18: 51
          Do you know why warriors do not like cucumbers? head in a jar does not crawl.
          no later.

          Soviet T-70 had 2 engines, BTR-60 had 2 engines
          They put it because there was no way out, and not because there was a proven technology, and for some reason I don’t recall Hungarian tanks of the First World War.
          1. postman
            +1
            April 9 2013 18: 59
            Quote: cth; fyn
            They put it because there was no way out, but

            I. F. GNEDASH, A. I. MAZURENKO, E. A. MOROZOV
            TANK POWER PLANT WITH TWO ENGINES
            (Bulletin of armored vehicles, No. 10. 1990)
            For a domestic tank, a power plant with two identical engines located in the middle of the tank, onboard hydro-volume-mechanical transmissions and a hydro-volume drive of the rotation mechanism can be used. The reverse mechanism provides the ability to move forward and reverse with the same speeds.
            Each of the engines develops a power of 590 ... 660 kW with short-term boosting up to 740 kW. Thus, the total power of the power plant reaches 1180 ... 1320 kW, and the specific power of the layout is 33 ... 37 kW / t. This will ensure a specific power of the tank equal to 29 kW / t. There will be no need for a long development of a new tank engine of high power. The proposed scheme increases the durability and fuel efficiency of the power plant due to the rational use of power of one or both engines.
            1. +1
              April 10 2013 08: 49
              I admit my mistakes Thank you to Vasily and the rest for well-reasoned criticism










          2. 0
            April 10 2013 06: 04
            Quote: cth; fyn

            Soviet T-70s had 2 engines ...

            Diesel sparks had Matilda-2 and one of the modifications of the Sherman M4A2.
            Moreover, such Shermans were massively used in the 6th Guards. TA Kravchenko until the Prague operation of the 45th.
    2. postman
      +2
      April 9 2013 18: 56
      Quote: Vadivak
      Two engines - Echo of the first world

      Right?
      In the history of Soviet and foreign tank building, examples of power plants with two engines are known. During the Second World War such installations were used Soviet light tanks T-70 and self-propelled guns SU-76Mas well as American tanks M-4A1 and M-24. In the postwar years, the power plant with two engines found application in a Swedish tank Strv-10Z and domestic armored personnel carriers BTR-60 and BTR-70.
      Scheme of a tank chassis with a power plant having two engines
      1. 0
        April 9 2013 21: 55
        The postman is handsome! good Argued
        1. postman
          0
          April 10 2013 15: 55
          Thank you.
          I will note, judging by the "-" which they slapped you, some who do not agree with this.
          and just (stupidly) "-", but without motivation.
          What to do . Our people are so ...
  3. Ilyukha
    +1
    April 9 2013 10: 42
    On the power plant, clean ersatz technique. It is impossible to reliably synchronize the operation of two engines on one shaft, and the mechanism is cumbersome and unreliable. It, of course, will go, but not far))
    1. 0
      April 9 2013 13: 59
      Quote: Ilyukha
      It is impossible to reliably synchronize the operation of two engines on one shaft, and the mechanism is cumbersome and unreliable.


      But what about the BTR-60 and BTR-70 ??
      1. +1
        April 9 2013 14: 13
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        But what about the BTR-60 and BTR-70?


        Oleg here proceeded from increased survivability due to poor booking
    2. 0
      April 10 2013 06: 13
      Quote: Ilyukha
      ... the mechanism is cumbersome and unreliable. It, of course, will go, but not far))

      In fact, in 44-45, Sherman with a diesel engine and T-34 with a V-2 almost did not differ in terms of engine life. They were equally enough for one two operations in 800-1000 km of run.
      The only additional hemorrhoids for synchronization during maintenance.
  4. Conepatus
    +1
    April 9 2013 12: 36
    There isn’t enough tanks for a full branch. Hello to Serb! smile
    1. 0
      April 9 2013 13: 29
      The tanks of the Wehrmacht allies will be reduced to the same tree of development.
  5. +1
    April 9 2013 15: 07
    I did not know that the Magyars tried to create a heavy tank. Article plus. I look forward to continuing.
  6. Avenger711
    +1
    April 9 2013 15: 36
    For ur 7, probably it will be weak.
    1. 0
      April 9 2013 16: 46
      Sawed up like a prem tank wink
  7. NAPOLEON
    0
    April 9 2013 16: 11
    to create his own technique it was in vain. it was necessary to cooperate with the Germans or organize screwdriver production. waste of time
  8. +1
    April 9 2013 17: 32
    Frontal armor of a tower of 30 mm?
    It's just ridiculous, with such a mass of tank ...
  9. Ilyukha
    0
    April 9 2013 20: 09
    The Magyars were lucky that they did not make the tank. More of them survived))
  10. +1
    April 9 2013 20: 43
    And what is the section of Yagdpanther doing here?
  11. 0
    April 18 2013 13: 22
    new prem ... definitely
  12. +3
    29 September 2013 22: 33
    Some kind of under-Panther. To fight on such a war at the end of WWII is a clear suicide. And you won’t get enough guns for them - the Germans had their own requests, but they aren’t so simple in production.

    Respect and a huge THANK YOU to Mikhail Baryatinsky! "+" (it is a pity that no more smile )
  13. 0
    29 October 2015 09: 52
    Here I thought and decided to make a branch of the Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia)