“Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat — Moscow is behind!”

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75 years ago, September 30 - October 2, 1941, Army Group Center launched an operation called the German Command Typhoon. The enemy surpassed our troops in men and technology by a half to two times and in the first days of the offensive broke through the defense of the Red Army.

On the night of October 2, the troops of the Eastern Front read out Hitler’s order: “Finally, a prerequisite was created for the last huge blow, which, before the onset of winter, should lead to the destruction of the enemy. All preparations, as far as possible for human effort, are already over. This time, systematically, step by step, preparations were under way to bring the enemy into a position in which we can now deal him a fatal blow. Today begins the last, big, decisive battle of this year. In a speech on the radio 3 in October, Hitler said that 48 hours ago on the Eastern Front began new operations of gigantic proportions. "The enemy has already been defeated and will never regain strength again," the Führer assured.



However, he miscalculated. The Russian army, despite the terrible losses, withstood the enemy’s powerful blows and only strengthened the resistance, the Soviet state did not fall apart, as it was expected in the West. By December, the Wehrmacht was drained of heavy fighting and could no longer advance. The typhoon has stalled. And on December 5, the Red Army launched a counteroffensive near Moscow, which led to the beginning of a strategic breakthrough in the Great War.

Western historiography diminishes the importance of the Battle of Moscow, linking the change in World War II with the victories of the American-British forces in Africa (Moroccan-Algerian operation, or Operation Torch) and in Sicily (Sicilian operation, or Operation Husky). At the same time, Western historians are looking for easy explanations of the defeat of the Wehrmacht near Moscow. They are justified by the harsh natural conditions of Russia, in particular the autumnal thaw and the exceptionally harsh winter, as well as poor communications. However, they forget that the Soviet troops acted in the same conditions that our troops also sank in the mud and froze. However, the Soviet fighters knew that it was impossible to retreat further, behind Moscow. Also, the commanders and privates of the Red Army, beaten and fought before in numerous "cauldrons", have already received a great deal of combat experience. As the saying goes: give two unbeaten for one beaten. On the other hand, the supreme Soviet command skillfully prepared new defensive lines, dragged down reserves, used the fact that Japan did not enter the war, redeploying part of the troops from the East. Thus, there is no doubt that the main reason for the failure of Operation Typhoon and the victories near Moscow was the increased military skill of the Red Army command, the mass heroism of ordinary soldiers and Soviet citizens in the rear, who did everything possible and impossible for the coming Great Victory. The Russian spirit, which until now cannot be understood in the West, allowed the Russian people to stand and win.

prehistory

Starting a war against the Soviet Union, Hitler announced that he would be in Moscow in two or three weeks after the start of the war. With this boastful statement, the Führer apparently wanted to emphasize that the Russian campaign would be as lightning as the previous military campaigns in Europe. However, the war in the East was different than in the West. It was a war of annihilation. Russian soldiers and commanders showed unparalleled resilience and heroism, which crossed all the plans of the German High Command.

During the summer campaign, the Red Army frustrated Berlin’s plans for a “blitzkrieg” in the East. The Wehrmacht suffered unexpectedly high losses, which have not yet been during the military campaigns in Western Europe. The battle for Smolensk (July 10 - September 10 1941) delayed the German attack on Moscow for the month 2. Also, part of the forces from the central strategic direction the Wehrmacht had to be pulled to the south, for the battle for Kiev and to the north - the battle for Leningrad. In September, the enemy was stopped in the Far North, near Leningrad, on the Svir and Volkhov rivers.

Thus, by the beginning of the autumn of 1941, the German army, due to serious losses and increased resistance of the Red Army, could not equally successfully develop an offensive in all strategic areas. In order to launch an offensive on Leningrad and achieve success in the Kiev area, the German command had to because of the lack of strategic reserves (hoped for a “blitzkrieg”, so there were no large reserves, the country and the economy were not fully transferred to the “war rails”) their flank strategic groupings at the expense of Army Group Center, which temporarily turned defensive.

However, the situation was still extremely difficult. The enemy stood at the encircled Leningrad, threatened Moscow, rushed to Kharkov, in the Donbass and the Crimea. Soviet troops did not have a solid and sustainable defense front. With the breakthroughs of the enemy of the Red Army, it was necessary to retreat into the interior of the country, detaining him on separate intermediate lines, creating defense around a number of cities. The Soviet Union has not yet completed the restructuring of the national economy on a war footing. The mass evacuation of millions of people, wealth and equipment of factories from the front areas to the rear continued, unprecedented in scope. Therefore, there was a shortage weaponsespecially modern, not enough ammunition. Reserves and reinforcements were less armed and trained than enemy troops. The enemy retained a strategic initiative, the Wehrmacht still had powerful strike capabilities, first-class armored formations and the Air Force.



On the eve of the great battle. Typhoon Plan

The fall of the attack rate, the stubborn resistance of the enemy and the huge losses that the Wehrmacht suffered on the Russian front, forced the German high command to recognize that the Red Army was a strong enemy and that the scornful attitude towards the Soviet army and the USSR, which prevailed in Germany on the eve of the war, was deeply mistaken. However, the Germans and in the autumn of 1941, after three months of war, still believed in their complete superiority, underestimated the strength and capabilities of the Red Army, the potential of the Soviet economy and the fighting spirit of the Soviet people. The military and political leadership of the Third Reich did not abandon the plan to crush the USSR before the beginning of the winter 1941-1942. Hitler believed that the Russians were already at the last gasp and needed only to finish them off. Many German generals also adhered to this point of view. They believed that one strong blow to the Red Army would be enough for the Soviet Union to collapse.

The ultimate goal of the planned operations was to take Moscow, Leningrad, Kharkov, Donbass and other leading industrial centers of the European part of the USSR before the beginning of winter. The success of the Wehrmacht in the Ukraine-Ukraine once again created favorable conditions for the offensive of the Army Group "Center". The operations of the Soviet capital to seize the German command gave paramount importance. It was believed that after the seizure of the political center of the USSR, the most important hub of strategic communications and the industrial center, Russia would no longer be able to put up former resistance. The fall of Moscow, after the loss of the other economic and political centers of the Union (Kiev, Minsk, Smolensk, etc.), according to the Hitlerites, should lead to political, economic and military disorganization of the USSR and the collapse of the Red Empire.

Therefore, Hitler decided to resume the offensive on Moscow. Directive OKV (Supreme High Command of the Wehrmacht) No. 6, signed by the Fuhrer on September 1941, 35, said that prerequisites had been created for a decisive operation in the western direction and an attack on Moscow. In this directive, Army Group “Sever” proposed, together with the Finnish army, to encircle Soviet troops in the Leningrad region and not later than September 15 to release a significant part of the mobile formations and aviation to transfer them to Army Group Center. The Germans planned to carry out a double encirclement of Leningrad: by blowing through the Neva to the north to create an inner circle of encirclement, and then offensive from the Volkhov River to the north-east to join Finnish troops on the Svir River. At the same time, it was planned to launch a major air attack on Leningrad.

Army Group Center was instructed not later than the end of September to launch a decisive offensive in the Moscow direction, using powerful mobile forces concentrated on the flanks of the group, to encircle and destroy Soviet troops located east of Smolensk, and to open the way for a further attack on Moscow in a wide strip between Oka and the upper reaches of the Volga. Army Group South ”at that time was to complete the operation launched against the Soviet Southwestern Front. Then planned the 2nd field army and the 2nd tank to return the group to Army Group Center, and to conduct an offensive on the Donbass, in the Crimea and further on to the Caucasus with the troops of the right flank. Thus, in the planned strategic offensive, the main place was given to the capture of Moscow. The fall of Moscow was to mark a complete victory over the Soviet Union.

The attack on Moscow was prepared for about a month. The specific plan of the attack on Moscow bore the code name Typhoon. It envisaged a complex of operations: by striking three powerful groups from the Dukhovshchina, Roslavl and Shostka areas (3-I, 4-I and 2-I tank groups) to dismember the opposing forces of the Western, Reserve and Bryansk fronts, surround their main forces and destroy, and then deploy a frontal attack on the Soviet capital. The tank and motorized formations were tasked to reach the Soviet capital from the north and south. Army Group Commander "Center Field Marshal von Bock September 16 ordered to proceed with the preparation of the operation" Typhoon. "

“Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat — Moscow is behind!”

German soldiers on a halt during the battle for Moscow

Forces of the parties. Germany

To attack Moscow, Army Group Center was strengthened by regrouping troops from other directions. The 2-th army of von Weichs and the 2-I tank group of Guderian, the corps of the 3-th tank group from the north-west direction (from the Demyansk region) were returned to its structure from the south. In addition, from the Leningrad region near Smolensk, the 4 tank control group of Göpner was transferred, and several army corps from Army Group South were deployed to the south wing of the central sector of the front. Also in the army group were: Strauss 9-I, von Kluge's 4-I, Goth's 3-I tank group (from October 5 - Reinhard). From the air, the army group was supported by the 2 th air fleet of Field Marshal A. Kesselring (1320 aircraft).

In total, by the end of September, the Army Group Center had more than 1 million people (according to other data, about 1,9 million people), 1700 tanks and self-propelled guns, 14 thousand guns and mortars. There were 77 divisions, including 14 tank and 8 motorized. This was 40% of all infantry and 64% of all mobile units that were on the Russian front. By the beginning of the offensive, most of the troops were concentrated in three strike groups in the direction of the planned attacks.

The northern grouping (9-I field army and 3-I tank group) received an order to strike from the Dukhovshchina area in the direction of Bely - Sychevka. After the break-through of the Soviet defense, the motorized corps of the 3 tank group had to intercept the Rzhev-Vyazma and Vyazma-Moscow railways and reach Vyazma from the north and northeast.

The central grouping (4-I army and 4-I tank group) were to strike along the Roslavl-Moscow highway in the direction of Spask-Demensk-Yukhnov. Having broken through the defense of the Red Army, the German troops were to bypass Vyazma from the south and, interacting with the units of the 3 tank group, surround the Vyazma group of Soviet troops. On the inner flanks of the 9 and 4 armies between Yelnya and the Minsk-Moscow road, it was planned to separate the enemy with separate strikes with limited goals, mislead the Soviet command regarding the direction of the main attack of the Wehrmacht.

The southern strike force (the 2 Army and the 2 Panzer Group) ordered the 2 Army to break through the defense of the Bryansk Front on the Desna northwest of Bryansk and then launch an offensive in the direction of Sukhinichi, sweeping the forces of the Bryansk Front from the north, and 2- th tank group to strike from the region Shostka on the Eagle. At the same time, part of the 2 tank group, in cooperation with the 2 army, was to seize the Bryansk industrial region.

Especially great superiority of the army group "Center" was in the directions of the main attacks. For example, in the defense zone of the 19 and 30 of the Soviet armies, the Germans had an advantage in men — 3 times, tanks — 1,7, and guns and mortars — 3,8 times. In the defense zone of the 24 and 43 armies of the Reserve Front: in men in 3,2 times, in tanks - in 8,5, in guns and mortars - in 7 times. In the direction of Oryol, where the 13 Army and the operative group of General Yermakov defended, the Wehrmacht had superiority in manpower 2,6 times, in guns and mortars - 4,5 times. This allowed the Soviet forces to quickly penetrate and break through to the rear of the Red Army.



Soviet Union

The Soviet Supreme Command took steps to create a strong defense in the Moscow strategic direction. It was concentrated more than 40% of all forces of the Red Army, 35% of tanks and aircraft that fought between the Baltic and the Black Sea.

On the distant approaches to the capital, the forces of three fronts defended: the Western (I. S. Konev), the Reserve (S. M. Budyonny) and the Bryansk (A. I. Eremenko). The western front of the forces of six reinforced armies (22-I, 29-I, 30-I, 19-I, 16-I and 20-I) kept the defense in the strip from Lake Seliger to Yelni. The main forces of the Reserve Front (31-I, 32-I, 33-I and 49-I armies) occupied the defense in the second echelon, behind the Western front at the line of Ostashkov, Selizharovo, Olenino, Spas-Demyansk, Kirov. The 24-I and 43-I armies of the Reserve Front were located in the first echelon on the left flank of the Western Front in the strip from Yelnya to the village of Frolovka. The Bryansk Front, consisting of three armies (13, 50 and 3) and the task force, defended along the eastern bank of the Desna from Frolovka to Putivl.

The three fronts consisted of about 800 thousand people (according to other data - 1 million 250 thousand people), about 800 tanks, 6800 guns and mortars, 545 aircraft (according to other sources - more 1000 tanks, more 10,5 thousand guns and mortars). Total 96 divisions, 14 brigades and 2 fortified area. In addition, later on, the 21 militia division participated in the battle for Moscow with a total squadron of 200 thousand people, 14 reserve divisions with a total squadron of 120 thousand man, 6 guards divisions of the Airborne Forces, 9 divisions taken from Siberia. Also, additional tank units, air defense of Moscow as part of 3 air divisions and 368 long-range aviation bombers.

Simultaneously with the strengthening of the troops of the western strategic direction, the State Defense Committee (GKO) took extraordinary measures to create several defense lines in the rear of the Western Front, on the far and near approaches to Moscow, and to deploy the Reserve of the Main High Command. The troops of the Moscow Military District led to full combat readiness, took measures to form the defense system of the capital itself.

To prepare for the defense of Moscow in July-September, 1941 launched the construction of the Rzhev-Vyazma and Mozhaisk defense lines to a depth of 250 km. The works were carried out by military construction units with the help of residents of Moscow, Moscow, Smolensk, Tula and Kalinin regions. Excavation work was carried out mainly by civilians, mostly women. Thus, 300-400 thousand people participated in the construction of the Rzhev-Vyazma line every day. For two months, 2250 km of anti-tank ditches and escarpes were discovered here, around 1000 fortifications were built. The Rzhev-Vyazma line passed in 50-80 km from the front edge of the defense of the troops of the Western Front and was the rear defensive line of the Reserve Front. She served as a cover for distant approaches to Moscow on the Volokolamsk, Mozhaysk and Maloyaroslavets directions. At the Rzhev-Vyazma line, most of the national militia divisions defended.

Mozhaisk line of defense was erected in case of a breakthrough in the defense of the Reserve Front. Its basis was the Vyazemsky, Mozhaisk, Maloyaroslavetsky and Kaluga fortified areas. However, due to the enormous scale of work, the construction of defensive lines was delayed, and by the beginning of the German offensive against Moscow, only 40-60% had been completed.

The whole life of the Soviet capital was subordinated to the tasks of fighting the enemy. Particular attention was paid to air defense. Organized 13 thousand volunteer fire brigades. At the enterprises, in establishments, in educational institutions and houses houses were set up to fight fires. With the onset of darkness in Moscow, a complete blackout was introduced. On the outskirts of the city raised balloons air barriers. Air approaches to the capital were guarded by fighter aircraft and anti-aircraft artillery of the Moscow air defense zone. Already in July, it had 602 aircraft, 796 medium and 248 small-caliber guns, 336 anti-aircraft guns, 400 searchlight systems, and 600 aerial surveillance, warning and communication posts (OVNS). In Moscow, 12 volunteers formed divisions of the national militia.

Despite the fact that the western direction was constantly in the center of attention of the Soviet command, he was unable to detect in time the preparation of the Wehrmacht for the big offensive against Moscow and to decide in advance the enemy’s plan. Only at the end of September, the Soviet General Headquarters received information on the preparation of a large offensive on the capital. The headquarters immediately abandoned private offensive operations and guided the front command to a transition to stubborn defense. In directives to the fronts of September 27, the Headquarters ordered: to mobilize all the demining units of the fronts, armies and divisions to strengthen the defensive lines. At the same time ordered to prepare new defensive lines in the rear of the fronts. The command of the fronts was instructed to accumulate front-line and army reserves, to withdraw the most weakened divisions to the rear for replenishment and reinforcement. The front commanders warned the troops about the impending offensive of the enemy and pointed out the need for increased vigilance and alertness. However, the measures of the Stavka and the command of the fronts were late for all. The troops did not have time to strengthen the defense, to regroup the forces according to new plans, especially in those areas where the main attacks of the enemy were expected.

Thus, because of the higher combat class of the Wehrmacht, its technical and numerical superiority in the directions of the main attacks, the mistakes of the Soviet command, the German army was able to break through the Soviet defense in the Moscow direction. The Soviet troops had to compensate for all this with the qualities traditional for the Russian soldiers: the greatest perseverance and perseverance, fearlessness and unshakable will to win, mass heroism and readiness for self-sacrifice. This allowed the Soviet command to take measures to rectify the situation and defend the capital, grinding the Wehrmacht strike forces in the Battle for Moscow.


Soviet tank KV-1, abandoned in the area of ​​Bryansk

To be continued ...
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  1. +10
    30 September 2016 07: 38
    Bright memory to grandfathers and great-grandfathers! Fascists broke their teeth about Moscow! I am proud that my ancestors, fighters of the Siberian divisions, had a hand in this!
    1. +2
      1 October 2016 12: 42
      All the same, the Red Army or the Soviet Army will be right.
  2. +11
    30 September 2016 07: 55
    The battle of Moscow exceeded in scale and number of participants any of the battles of the 2nd MV. Yes, and in importance for the Second World War.
  3. +5
    30 September 2016 08: 11
    At the same time, Western historians are looking for easy explanations for the defeat of the Wehrmacht near Moscow. It is justified by the harsh natural conditions of Russia, in particular, the autumn thaw and the exceptionally harsh winter, as well as poor communications.
    ... It seems that, according to Western historians, Soviet troops near Moscow simply used climatic weapons ... smile But the allies who fought in Sicily and Africa did not have it .. because their victory is much greater than the victory of the Soviet troops near Moscow ... smile
    1. +4
      30 September 2016 08: 55
      Quote: parusnik
      Soviet troops near Moscow simply used climate weapons ...

      In the suburbs, severe frosts were in the winter of 1940-41. And the winter is 1941-42. was ordinary for those times. And again, and the author points out, General Moroz, Colonel Rasputitsa, and Major Zaraza never had any charges. They act the same against both opponents. And the fact that we fight them best of all is our merit.
    2. +4
      30 September 2016 09: 16
      So in their opinion, our soldiers fought in different conditions. Or our frost resistance is better.
      1. 0
        8 March 2017 19: 50
        Lutche, and ours fought for themselves, For the Motherland, albeit scum, but the Motherland))
      2. 0
        8 March 2017 19: 50
        Lutche, and ours fought for themselves, For the Motherland, albeit scum, but the Motherland))
  4. +5
    30 September 2016 08: 15
    Each medal has two sides ... Who assumed that the enemy reached Moscow? Just do not need songs about the fact that the country was not ready for war! Who was the defense minister and chief of staff at the time of the German attack on the Soviet Union? And to the realities of today and to the grudge of the day ... If in St. Petersburg they installed the Mannerheim board, REQUIRED, on Red Square to erect a monument to the BEST Commander of the 40th Army during the defense of Moscow, General Vlasov. I think that the president of the country will not mind.
    1. +6
      30 September 2016 08: 41
      Then on Red Square and Hitler the monument - the great martyr of the Russian people ...
    2. +6
      30 September 2016 08: 53
      Don’t worry, they’ll soon open a branch of the Yeltsin Center in Moscow for you .. and there may be a monument to Vlasov .. commander of the 20th Army, by the way smile
    3. +3
      30 September 2016 12: 44
      Do not care who let it in, it is no longer breathing. The main thing is that, dear, you have frozen such nonsense now!
    4. +3
      30 September 2016 15: 36
      the French army, together with the British troops, didn’t even go German, but lost in just a month! and surpassed the Germans in the number of medium and heavy tanks, as well as in the total number
      1. 0
        30 September 2016 17: 59
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        the French army, together with the British troops, didn’t even go German, but lost in just a month! and surpassed the Germans in the number of medium and heavy tanks, as well as in the total number

        Well, there it was not so simple.
        The troops of the British Empire were scattered throughout the colonies, and those divisions that were in Europe were clearly not enough for active operations against the Germans.
        France was even worse. The Wehrmacht was armed with the most modern tanks, aircraft, and other military equipment. The French, at that time, had little modern equipment, and the uniform of the soldiers corresponded to the requirements of the First World War. All this was supplemented by the failures of the French command.
        1. +3
          1 October 2016 09: 44
          Lord Blacwood, at least take a look at Wikipedia! I am writing about forces that are directly at the theater of operations! look TTX French tanks heavy infantry tank B1bis, medium tank S35! Germans in the French company did not have heavy tanks at all!
    5. +4
      30 September 2016 16: 32
      Quote: user3970
      Who assumed that the enemy reached Moscow?

      These are "many, many", big military commanders and privates, survivors and the dead ...
      In particular, the article does not pay attention to how the Germans attack on Moscow began.
      Vyazemsky operation (October 2 - 13, 1941) - the defensive operation of the West (commander - I. S. Konev, from October 10 - G.K. Zhukov) and the Reserve (commander - S. M. Budenny, from October 8 - G. K. Zhukov) fronts in World War II, carried out during the battle of Moscow. Ended in a catastrophic defeat of the Red Army. There were no troops left in front of Moscow.
      But there were many troops, and the fortifications were powerful, and there was enough equipment, especially artillery.
      But ... there was no main thing, then they did not yet possess the science of winning. The Germans broke through the defense on the flanks, and not where they were waiting, surrounded and destroyed (captured) the main forces of the Western and Reserve Fronts.
      How is that they?
      You’ve misled, you know ...
      "By the beginning of the operation, the enemy misled the command of the Soviet fronts regarding the direction of the main attacks and, having regrouped, created a numerical superiority in the selected directions, including in Dukhovshchinsky: in people - 3 times, in tanks - 1,7 times, in guns and mortars - 3,8 times; on Roslavl: in people - 3,2 times, in tanks - 8,5 times [3], in guns and mortars - 8,5 times.
      The command of the Western Front, waiting for the enemy to go over to the offensive, concentrated its main efforts along the Smolensk-Vyazma road at the junction of the 16th and 19th armies, which later did not come true, since the enemy struck north and south. "
      In addition, our command was unable to organize, and the troops carried out counterattacks to eliminate the breakthrough of the enemy’s mobile formations.
      The defeat was also moral, morale fell - the troops in the Vyazemsky cauldron could not resist for more than a week, more than 600 thousand surrendered ....
      (Near Stalingrad we captured more than 90 thousand, the fighting to eliminate the surrounded 6 German army was conducted for more than a month.)
      How did you manage to concentrate the necessary forces and, ultimately, defend Moscow?
      A real miracle has happened in world military history. The heroism of the troops that took the place of the destroyed and captured forces of the Western and Reserve Fronts, the exertion of all forces by the Supreme Command Headquarters, the skillful leadership of G.K. Zhukov, K.K. Rokosovskiy, the same, in the future, a traitor to the gene. Vlasov and others and the omissions of truly outstanding German generals (they thought that the Russians would no longer be able to offer worthy resistance and planned to take Moscow with "little blood"), the enemy was stopped and defeated.
    6. 0
      30 September 2016 19: 09
      BEST Commander of the 40th Army during the defense of Moscow, General Vlasov.

      Every collective farmer will indicate what and where to install here. You can install whatever you want in your village. You can even pick up your mummy along with the tomb. The air will be cleaner
  5. avt
    +6
    30 September 2016 09: 31
    When is the premiere of the film "Panfilov's 28" !!! ????
  6. +3
    30 September 2016 09: 48
    stop writing communist nonsense about the Second World War! we had more tanks! there were apts, there were t-34s! the Germans also did not have all 4 panzers! but we did not know how to fight! and in addition to Moscow, the already exhausted Germans came up, yet the battles were not in vain! the tanks had an engine resource at zero, the trunks were broken. read the memories of the Germans! so that Moscow stormed the bloodless units, but this does not plead with the merits of the Red Army!
    1. +1
      30 September 2016 12: 41
      Bleeding, tired ... excuse for whom ??? Why do we need to know about this? Memories of the Germans - this is nonsense !!!!
    2. +13
      30 September 2016 12: 46
      Lord !!! The Germans came to Moscow exhausted, the resource of engines at zero, the trunks are broken !!
      Do not read you nonsense of the Germans- Bells hinder the bad dancer.
      And why don't you believe in "communist nonsense", but believe in "German memoirs"?
      But who tormented them ?? where the engine resource worked out, from the trunks who shot ??
      Maybe they should have allowed the "rerun" ??
    3. +4
      30 September 2016 14: 18
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      but this does not plead with the merits of the Red Army!

      Would write their anti-communist nonsense literate - "there" would have noticed, they would have thrown a grant. Instead of Zhenechka, Ssaki would have been appointed - the place, as you see, is still vacant. And so to fart - really "For" communism came out. Beg any associate of Mr. Kasyanov, in order to provide technical mutual assistance in the fight against communism, to pull you up in the Russian language. The popular recognition of blatant illiteracy is approaching inexorably on you. Disabled exam?
  7. +3
    30 September 2016 10: 10
    “Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat — Moscow is behind!”These words are attributed to the Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously) to the political commander of the 4th company of the 2nd battalion of the 1075th rifle regiment of the 316th rifle division, Vasily Georgiy Klochkov.
  8. +2
    30 September 2016 10: 29
    Quote: avt
    When is the premiere of the film "Panfilov's 28" !!! ????

    They promised in November! Hopefully not fooled.
    1. 0
      30 September 2016 12: 37
      I'm really looking forward to it. My son has already set up a trip to the cinema.
  9. +4
    30 September 2016 10: 52
    Quote: bionik
    “Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat - Moscow is behind!” These words ascribe to the Hero of the Soviet Union the (posthumous) political commander of the 4th company of the 2nd battalion of the 1075th rifle regiment of the 316th rifle division Vasily Georgiy Klochkov.


    And he said these words hundreds of times.

    As a political instructor, starting political information, etc. from words (template) -our great Motherland (country, state, etc.) has entered into a mortal battle ......... you can’t retreat, not a step back. (This is generally from the Charter) ........ behind Moscow ( when the connection was thrown near Moscow).
    So Krivitsky only summarized and in a more accurate form gave real words to Klochkov ..
    1. +3
      30 September 2016 12: 20
      Quote: chenia
      And he said these words hundreds of times.



      State Archive of the Russian Federation. F.R. - 8131 c. Op. 37. D. 4041. LL 310 — 320.
      1. +2
        30 September 2016 12: 49
        You read my post to the end. These words are a typical set of phrases for the political political officer.

        The phrases about patriotism and readiness to die for their homeland are always similar.
        But said before a mortal battle and confirmed acquires a completely different shade and has a completely different historical sound.
      2. 0
        30 September 2016 14: 44
        Quote: Stas57
        Quote: chenia
        And he said these words hundreds of times.

        State Archive of the Russian Federation. F.R. - 8131 c. Op. 37. D. 4041. LL 310 — 320.

        Erehistorian the Defiler! ©
        smile
  10. 0
    30 September 2016 12: 36
    Looking at the photo of the Germans in the halt, I just can’t understand what was pushing these people into the war. The Russians defended their Fatherland with frenzy that could not be compared. But these forces exerted no less ... Eternal memory and glory to our heroes who defeated fascism!
    1. +2
      30 September 2016 14: 25
      Quote: zritel
      I just can’t understand what was pushing these people into the war.

      The word is - an order. He pushed. I do not agree to obey - you find yourself in another legal field, and then in another burial. And relatives also have a different fate. This is all against the background of competent agitation carried out among the Germans following the results of WWI, the military traditions of the Germans. Next to the events of 1 article. Also German and Lithuanian people froze ...
    2. +1
      30 September 2016 14: 46
      Quote: zritel
      Looking at the photo of the Germans in the halt, I just can’t understand what was pushing these people into the war. The Russians defended their Fatherland with frenzy that could not be compared. But these forces exerted no less ... Eternal memory and glory to our heroes who defeated fascism!

      And you look at modern Ukraine. What is pushing them to volunteer to kill the children of Donbass?
      1. 0
        30 September 2016 19: 14
        The salary is good.
        In addition, there were such parents. From childhood, they muttered that Moscow was taking everything from them. Here they are and have grown.
        Well, the general grayness. Narrow mind
  11. +8
    30 September 2016 12: 43
    The victory near Moscow is the great victory of the Red Army. At present, some political scientists are trying to show the role of Vlasov in this victory. She is not there. His division was commanded by a deputy, and this traitor lay sick in the infirmary. A large role in the victory near Moscow over the Nazis was played by sailors. In our school, the navigational training was conducted by the captain of the first rank Arkhangelsky. They managed to transfer them from the Far East to Moscow at the beginning of the fighting.
    On December 7, hostilities began on the Leningrad Front. On December 8, Tikhvin was freed from the Nazis. Dear readers of "VO", look at map # 1. There you will see the blue arrows of the offensive of the Finnish group near Leningrad and Petrozavodsk. The Red Army was able to stop the troops of Mannerheim on December 8, 1941. Then on the Karelian front the first platinum was blown up and about 2 thousand drunken Finns were carried to Lake Onega. After that, the Karelian Front stabilized until 1944. And in St. Petersburg they still managed to pay tribute to the fascist Mannerheim and install a memorial plaque for him. What a farce. For example, after this event, I cannot say at the grave of my father, who died on December 27, 1941 on the Road of Life, "Father, the Russian people remember your feat. Sleep well, dad." This is how some politicians from the Government of the country and St. Petersburg defiled the victory of our people in the Great Patriotic War.
  12. 0
    30 September 2016 12: 47
    These Europeans do not understand the essence of the war in Asia. The war has been waged for 400 years and the names of the cities taken and burned do not matter. Hitler wanted to make peace in an easy way, like with some kind of Holland and even put Stalin at the head of the conquered tribes, but it didn’t crawl - the map went wrong, to Tomug and frost. And what was different before? Memoirs of the time of Napoleon became in the winter of 42 years very popular among the German military ...
    1. 0
      30 September 2016 14: 33
      Quote: geologist
      Hitler wanted to make peace easy

      And what kind of war could the Germans have in their blood? To create the German Empire, nearly 2 hundred independent states had to be united. War is one transition, an assault on the capital. The result - the winner is revealed, the world. And so 2000 years. That's how much I go to St. Petersburg in July, I can never dress properly. Well, how to believe in +7 and rain when it’s here: +42 in the shade, the last rain in May was. I’m coming, my friends are dressing ...
  13. 0
    30 September 2016 13: 58
    At the time of the invasion of the USSR, Panzervaffen troops had 5639 tanks. There were no heavy ones among them, TI, included in this number (there were 877 of them), can be attributed, rather, to wedges. Since Germany was at war on other fronts, and Hitler needed to ensure the presence of his troops in Western Europe, against the Soviet Union he sent not all of his armored vehicles, but most of it, in the amount of about 3330 vehicles. In addition to the mentioned TIs, the Nazis had Czech tanks (772 units) with extremely low combat characteristics. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/166303/diviziya-tankovaya-ta
    nkovyie-divizii-vermahta-i-sssr. As of February 1941, the Red Army as a part of nine mechanized corps had almost 14 tanks. In 690, the Soviet defense industry produced 1941 vehicles. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/6590/diviziya-tankovaya-ta
    nkovyie-divizii-vermahta-i-sssr !!!!!, one 6th mechanized corps had 1941 tanks in 1100, of which 400 sq and t-34! we were not able to fight, that's all! and all the nonsense about the Germans' advantages came up with bugs and Khrushchev to justify themselves! Zhukov, being the chief of the general staff, did not even bother to study the French company of the Wehrmacht, where a maneuver war was shown! all the lines were built, but the Germans fought on the roads!
    1. +2
      30 September 2016 14: 55
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      we were inept

      You do not know Russian. And with such aplomb to issue well-known facts on VO? You have already composed 55 comments. And all are revealing. But still they did not take you into the cage of the State Department. Pull up Russian, calm down. Try to write something smarter than accusations against Zhukov. Kirby will not be able to take the place anyway - they will trample him soon. But after 4 years, you see, the State Department will be interested in you. They need new passion for them from Russia. Old then osto .. if already. But hurry up. They have time - money. We must write about something serious. What are the panzers - the affairs of bygone days. Learn from Kasyanov. As he said from the screen: "I didn't have that!" Go for it. Just leave the VO. They won't notice you here. Pick up something decent - well, at least "Echo". And expose, expose - you will come to court.
    2. +1
      30 September 2016 14: 57
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      There were no heavy ones among them.

      There were. smile But not in tank battalions of tank regiments, but in ex.
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      In addition to the mentioned TIs, the Nazis had Czech tanks (772 units) with extremely low combat characteristics.

      Heh heh heh ...
      Estimated data for Czech:
      "Tank TNGTs-38T (Prague) ... The frontal parts of the tank cannot be pierced by a 45-mm armor-piercing shell.
      © TsNII-48 report on the topic "Study of the armor protection of tanks of the German army"
      Practical shelling:
      "The results of the shelling of the Czechoslovakian Praha 38T tank from a 45-mm cannon model 1934 with an armor-piercing tracer projectile ... a 45-mm armor-piercing tracer shell penetrates 50 mm frontal armor from a distance of 200 meters
      © NIBT report of a test site for testing German tanks with shelling from armor-piercing and fragmentation shells from tank guns.

      That is, in terms of armor protection "Czech" is equivalent to the pre-war shielded "three" or "four".
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      Zhukov, being the chief of the general staff, did not even bother to study the French company of the Wehrmacht, where a maneuver war was shown

      Too shy to ask - Have you seen these materials? Do you even know what was at the disposal of the General Staff on the French campaign?
      During the offensive on France, the Germans used heavy tanks weighing 32 tons, weapons: one 105 mm gun, one 77 mm gun and 4 to 5 machine guns. Team of 7 people. Width is more than 2 meters. Combat speed up to 18 kilometers. A total of 10 motorized divisions (400 tanks) participated in the offensive, of which only 2-3 had 1 regiment of heavy tanks (in the heavy division, 1 regiment of light and medium tanks — 250 units and a heavy regiment — 150 tanks)

      Or how do you like the official report on the state of the ABTV potential enemy, which indicates the presence of Germans tank divisions of 700 tanks, as well as heavy tank divisions armed heavy tanks mass-produced at the factories of occupied Czechoslovakia and France?
    3. +2
      30 September 2016 15: 11
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      in 6 alone, the 1941th mechanized corps had 1100 tanks, of which 400 sq and t-34!

      At the same time, the rear of the hull could serve, God forbid, a third of this amount. For the industry systematically disrupted the plan for the supply of GAZ-AAA and ZIS-6 chassis, on which all special equipment was mounted - PARM, refueling machines, compressors, etc.
      The industry began to produce the same truck cranes only at the beginning of 1941. And at the beginning of the war they were not in MK at all. Everything was also bad with the tankers - the "tank with a pump" system was made in a small series by 2 factories in the USSR (the same as tankers for firefighters).
      Why are there special vehicles ... there were not enough ordinary "three-ton" cars. They even had to issue an order to replace the "three-ton" with "one and a half" 1: 1 - after which the mechanical parts were unable to raise the supplies they needed.

      It is not necessary to compare the figures for the presence of tanks, but the figures for the presence of structures filled with at least 80-90% of the staff. And according to them, the Wehrmacht has an absolute advantage over the unmobilized Red Army. Yes, and over the mobilized one too - for the same PARMs on a civilian are absent.
  14. +4
    30 September 2016 17: 34
    Not a word about the 316 rifle division under the command of Major General Panfilov, later renamed the 8th Guards Rifle Division, formed in Kazakhstan. The division defended the approaches to Moscow along the Volokolamsk highway from beginning to end and made a significant contribution to the victory over the Nazis
    1. +1
      30 September 2016 17: 48
      Quote: Nuralmaz
      Not a word about the 316 infantry division under the command of Major General Panfilov

      but you must?
      terrible offense straight.
      if I call you a dozen divisions no less worthy of mention in this article.
    2. 0
      30 September 2016 22: 09
      Well then about the 16th Army (in Smolensk - General Lukin), General K.K. Rokossovsky, and subsequently the 11th Guards (commanders I.Kh. Bagramyan, K.N. Galitsky), which included the Panfilov division.
  15. +2
    30 September 2016 20: 37
    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: user3970
    Who assumed that the enemy reached Moscow?

    These are "many, many", big military commanders and privates, survivors and the dead ...
    In particular, the article does not pay attention to how the Germans attack on Moscow began.
    Vyazemsky operation (October 2 - 13, 1941) - the defensive operation of the West (commander - I. S. Konev, from October 10 - G.K. Zhukov) and the Reserve (commander - S. M. Budenny, from October 8 - G. K. Zhukov) fronts in World War II, carried out during the battle of Moscow. Ended in a catastrophic defeat of the Red Army. There were no troops left in front of Moscow.
    But there were many troops, and the fortifications were powerful, and there was enough equipment, especially artillery.
    But ... there was no main thing, then they did not yet possess the science of winning. The Germans broke through the defense on the flanks, and not where they were waiting, surrounded and destroyed (captured) the main forces of the Western and Reserve Fronts.
    How is that they?
    You’ve misled, you know ...
    "By the beginning of the operation, the enemy misled the command of the Soviet fronts regarding the direction of the main attacks and, having regrouped, created a numerical superiority in the selected directions, including in Dukhovshchinsky: in people - 3 times, in tanks - 1,7 times, in guns and mortars - 3,8 times; on Roslavl: in people - 3,2 times, in tanks - 8,5 times [3], in guns and mortars - 8,5 times.
    The command of the Western Front, waiting for the enemy to go over to the offensive, concentrated its main efforts along the Smolensk-Vyazma road at the junction of the 16th and 19th armies, which later did not come true, since the enemy struck north and south. "
    In addition, our command was unable to organize, and the troops carried out counterattacks to eliminate the breakthrough of the enemy’s mobile formations.
    The defeat was also moral, morale fell - the troops in the Vyazemsky cauldron could not resist for more than a week, more than 600 thousand surrendered ....
    (Near Stalingrad we captured more than 90 thousand, the fighting to eliminate the surrounded 6 German army was conducted for more than a month.)
    How did you manage to concentrate the necessary forces and, ultimately, defend Moscow?
    A real miracle has happened in world military history. The heroism of the troops that took the place of the destroyed and captured forces of the Western and Reserve Fronts, the exertion of all forces by the Supreme Command Headquarters, the skillful leadership of G.K. Zhukov, K.K. Rokosovskiy, the same, in the future, a traitor to the gene. Vlasov and others and the omissions of truly outstanding German generals (they thought that the Russians would no longer be able to offer worthy resistance and planned to take Moscow with "little blood"), the enemy was stopped and defeated.

    Thank you, Alekseev. Informative. But I have my own version of the development of the 1941 catastrophe. Zhukov, Stalin noticed after the events on Khalkin Gol. But to be objective, the author of the victory over Japan was not Zhukov, but his chief of staff - Bogdanov Mikhail Andreevich, and Zhukov only communed the laurels of the winner. Stalin apparently trusted the professional military men Tymoshenko and Zhukov. But even though Tymoshenko did not write his memoirs later, he had a conscience. Rokossovsky, to whom Zhukov was in his time subordinate, gave him the following characteristic: "He cannot read maps. He is not capable of staff work." I trust Rokossovsky. Moscow saluted his troops 64 times.
  16. +1
    30 September 2016 20: 48
    Quote: midshipman
    The victory near Moscow is the great victory of the Red Army. At present, some political scientists are trying to show the role of Vlasov in this victory. She is not there. His division was commanded by a deputy, and this traitor lay sick in the infirmary. A large role in the victory near Moscow over the Nazis was played by sailors. In our school, the navigational training was conducted by the captain of the first rank Arkhangelsky. They managed to transfer them from the Far East to Moscow at the beginning of the fighting.
    On December 7, hostilities began on the Leningrad Front. On December 8, Tikhvin was freed from the Nazis. Dear readers of "VO", look at map # 1. There you will see the blue arrows of the offensive of the Finnish group near Leningrad and Petrozavodsk. The Red Army was able to stop the troops of Mannerheim on December 8, 1941. Then on the Karelian front the first platinum was blown up and about 2 thousand drunken Finns were carried to Lake Onega. After that, the Karelian Front stabilized until 1944. And in St. Petersburg they still managed to pay tribute to the fascist Mannerheim and install a memorial plaque for him. What a farce. For example, after this event, I cannot say at the grave of my father, who died on December 27, 1941 on the Road of Life, "Father, the Russian people remember your feat. Sleep well, dad." This is how some politicians from the Government of the country and St. Petersburg defiled the victory of our people in the Great Patriotic War.

    Sorry midshipman. Nothing personal. Reformatting the consciousness of the Russian people. USE to help. Ukraine before my eyes as an example. How much time was this done in (in) Ukraine? 20 -25 years old? What is the time in power ebn + vvp? 1992 - 2016 + 4years (last election). Soon we’ll jump on Red Square and in front of the Winter Palace on Palace Square.
  17. +1
    30 September 2016 20: 54
    Quote: parusnik
    . It seems, according to Western historians, Soviet troops near Moscow simply used climatic weapons .. smile

    Climatic weapons are certainly good. Only one nuance, any climatologist who reads Guderian's memoirs, for example, where frosts are described, where the temperature is over 50 with a minus, will say that these memoirs have a place in the trash heap. Otmazons for the poor - Hitler first complained about muddy roads, which interfered with tank maneuvers. He waited for the frost that would bind the muddy roads. Then he began to complain about "frost". In a word, the "bad dancer" effect. Liberoids successfully hawala all this crap - "general frost", "general winter" and the like.
  18. SIT
    +1
    30 September 2016 21: 29
    Quote: Alexey RA

    Quote: poplar in Kiev
    Zhukov, being the chief of the general staff, did not even bother to study the French company of the Wehrmacht, where a maneuver war was shown

    Too shy to ask - Have you seen these materials? Do you even know what was at the disposal of the General Staff on the French campaign?

    At the disposal of the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army G.K. Zhukov was "An official report of the French General Staff on the Franco-German war of 1939-1940." This report was personally handed to our military attaché by the chief of the General Staff of the French army, General Gamelin. At the same time, he said: "Take, study and see, so that you do not suffer the same fate." V. Novobranets, the head of the analytical department of the intelligence department, writes about this in his memoirs ("On the Eve of the War", 1990).
  19. +4
    30 September 2016 22: 10
    my great-grandfather died near Moscow, they never found a bright memory for the heroes who died in that war, and our people have always been able to fight.
    1. 0
      12 October 2016 10: 33
      My grandfather also defended Moscow and went missing in the last days of the defensive battles in early December ... Bright memory to all of them!
  20. +3
    30 September 2016 22: 11
    My grandfather has a medal "For the Defense of Moscow".
    1. +3
      30 September 2016 23: 06
      Mine too! After that, he always wore woolen socks and put on two mittens. For grandfathers and great-grandfathers !!!!! drinks thanks to them.
  21. 0
    1 October 2016 11: 59
    Why did the Germans reach Moscow ?! They knew how to quickly concentrate forces in an important direction. It turned out that the general preponderance of forces was on our side, and in the place of the breakthrough there were more Hitlerites, as well as good interaction and excellent communication. Therefore, the Caucasians also manage to "control" a lot - the total number is relatively small, but there is a coherence of actions, decisiveness, high mobility. Those. you haven't really started to download the right, but a couple of them have already arrived and they understand your language, and you alas
    1. 0
      2 October 2016 08: 04
      Quote: Samuel Marshak
      Why did the Germans reach Moscow ?! They knew how to quickly concentrate forces in an important direction. It turned out that the general preponderance of forces was on our side, and in the place of the breakthrough there were more Hitlerites, as well as good interaction and excellent communication. Therefore, the Caucasians also manage to "control" a lot - the total number is relatively small, but there is a coherence of actions, decisiveness, high mobility. Those. you haven't really started to download the right, but a couple of them have already arrived and they understand your language, and you alas

      Dear Marshak. This military strategy is called BLITZKRIG - the concentration of the maximum number of mechanized troops to break through the enemy’s defense and further develop the offensive without bothering with their backlogs. . It was thanks to the blitzkrieg that the Germans conquered Europe. No matter how it sounds like nonsense, but that is why I consider Hitler a genius. But after all, the majority in the world, including the great Russian historian Tarle, recognize genius in Napoleon, despite the fact that he killed a third of the male population of France and allowed the occupation of France and the capture of Paris. Especially since the genius of Barclay de Tolly defeated the genius of Napoleon, it is also honorable that the genius of Stalin defeated the genius of Hitler.
      1. +2
        2 October 2016 08: 15
        Quote: user3970
        the genius of Barclay de Tolly defeated the genius of Napoleon,

        And I thought that Kutuzov won, and not Boltai and only.
  22. +1
    1 October 2016 23: 15
    Each of us has our own, "absolutely correct" understanding of what happened in the initial period of the Second World War. The more interesting are the different versions, which are confirmed or forced to grapple with opponents. The main thing is not indifference. Thanks to the author. I look forward to continuing.
  23. 0
    2 October 2016 10: 28
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: user3970
    the genius of Barclay de Tolly defeated the genius of Napoleon,

    And I thought that Kutuzov won, and not Boltai and only.

    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: user3970
    the genius of Barclay de Tolly defeated the genius of Napoleon,

    And I thought that Kutuzov won, and not Boltai and only.

    Sorry, Mordvin. At the beginning of World War I, the Minister of Defense of the Russian Empire of 1812 was precisely Barclay de Tolly. It was he who developed the concept (strategy) of a future war with Napoleon's international troops. Mikhail Illarionovich Kutuzov only brought this strategy to life by pulling the French army into the vast expanses of Russia and stretching their rear along the Smolensk road. Few people think about it. Why are the Kutuzians, and not Tolly, the hero of the war of 1812? And why beetles, and not Rokossovsky or Stalin, Marshal of Victory? Is it because Rokossovsky is a Pole and to hell that in honor of the victory of his troops Moscow saluted 64 times. .
    1. 0
      2 October 2016 10: 36
      PS beetles ram. Characteristics of Rokossovsky, who was once his boss: "He cannot be assigned to staff and teaching jobs - he organically hates her"
      1. +1
        4 October 2016 07: 48
        can I link to Rokossovsky’s words about Zhukov?
  24. 0
    3 October 2016 12: 49
    Alas, so close to the heart (and not just the mind) today, this and similar articles can be perceived by generations who are over 30 years old. Modern youth (egs, not their fault, but only partly) are not able to realize the full depth of the processes that took place then, and only a few can compare with today ...
  25. 0
    10 December 2016 11: 00
    Quote: user3970
    PS beetles ram. Characteristics of Rokossovsky, who was once his boss: "He cannot be assigned to staff and teaching jobs - he organically hates her"

    I don’t really relate to Zhukov (my point of view does not oblige me to anything), but he never wanted to be a staff officer, he also refused to be a teacher at the General Staff. And any other in his place, what would he do ?! Look, Shaposhnikov was the head of the General Staff for more than 5 years, Meretskov-about a year, Zhukov -8 months, and 2 of them are already a war. What do you study and plan for 3 months ?! You need to take things at least 3-4 months, GS not a company with 0.3 thousand employees. And the state’s armed forces are neither a bank nor a factory!