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Cookbook of the Country of the Soviets. Food in stores and at home.

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Beer Bar "Barrel". Built in Penza in 1973


I like to go to cafes, eat ice cream and drink it with sparkling water. From her stabs in the nose and tears come out in her eyes.
V. Dragunsky. What I love and what I don't like!


History and documents. Last time ours the story of "snacks" in the era of the USSR ended in 1962, the year when I went to first grade. By this time, both grandfather and grandmother had been retired for two years, and various ailments attacked them. Lord, how many times, while my mother was at work, and she often worked with evening parties until 22.00:XNUMX p.m., I had to run to the fire station in any weather to call an ambulance carriage! And quite often it happened ... food poisoning! Either our purity was not very good, or it was the products, but the grandmother used to pickle the same sausage constantly. And it often turned out that my mother was in Moscow, my grandmother was in the hospital, and I needed to feed myself and my grandfather. Yes, and after the maternal culinary delights in the form of pancakes with jam, milk croutons and fluffy whipped omelettes.


Looking at today's abundance of “freezing,” I cannot help but recall that it was also in the USSR, but somehow it was not in demand. For example, I bought Vietnamese frozen pineapples ... The taste is specific, and the first attempt was the last. Cranberries have been sold on the market and are now being sold, only now blueberries, cloudberries and blueberries have been added to it (though, for the sake of the real effect, as the doctors say, you need to eat buckets)

Everything was in the refrigerator, but how to do it? I fried my first scrambled eggs in the first grade. First, on the one hand, then on the other. Then ... then he cooked the soup, made the first mashed potato in his life, and then from the book "Schoolchild's Nutrition" and an impressive mushroom salad in the form of a mushroom from a stuffed egg: a leg and half a tomato with white dots of mayonnaise. Then, from the same book, he learned to make a bull’s eye, whip and bake an omelet, fried eggs. In a word, I mastered a pretty decent set of dishes. All this was appreciated by adults when the grandfather's brother (who lived behind the wall), Uncle Volodya, died, and everyone left to bury him, out of stupidity of the mind, not taking care of dinner. And it was November, snow, cold ... So I arrived at their arrival and cooked a stew of meat, seasoned with dry wine (I read this recipe in the book), and the second - a potato mash pot with boiled sausage slices! They arrive already in a dark, angry, hungry, and then they have lunch ... It is still nice to remember their surprised faces.


There were many compotes in the USSR. But for some reason, I recall Hungarian and Bulgarian, not ours

And so it went. I began to cook at home often in the absence of my mother myself, invented various complicated sandwiches to read Mine Reed in bed at night, which, of course, could not be done. And everyone was happy that their “baby” was gaining weight by leaps and bounds, and that instead of putting me on a diet, forbid me to eat sandwiches with boiled pork and mayonnaise at night, and drink kefir! In a word, if I had not married in time and if my wife (not without difficulty, of course!) Had not accustomed me to proper nutrition, then I would not have seen health at all. In her family, thank God, this was better than mine.


I personally liked our compotes most of all: “Cherry” and “Cherry plum”. You could eat berries, and lay out a battle pattern from the seeds!

But let’s get back to the actual food, or rather to the “snacks.”

There were not as many as they are now, but they were tasty. First of all, for example, I really liked rum grandmothers. Some were smaller and resembled a glass of ice cream, while others were large, blurry. There were more Roma in these, but the small ones were rather dry. There were three types of cakes: eclairs - they were called “custard” in the USSR, biscuit with cream roses and a potato cake. Cream - only oily, very tasty. There are also two cakes - sponge cake and fruit with fruit filled with jelly. The first one in Penza cost 1 p. 20 kopecks., The second - 1 ruble, and I often, having “earned” this ruble in different ways, bought it myself when I wanted sweets. I was always somehow indifferent to sweets. My comrades in the street were very fond of colorful candy balls. They were called Dunkin Joy, and they never bought them from us. There were Tuzik butterscotch sticking to my teeth, Children's Hematogen, lots of all kinds of caramel filled sweets, as well as multi-colored candies in boxes. But the "lemon wedges" (marmalade), just like the cake "Bird's milk", could be bought only in Moscow, and then stood a considerable queue. Such cakes appeared in Penza only after 1993. There were chocolate bars with very tasty and delicate filling, but the Rot-Front chocolates were sold literally on every corner. Truffles were very tasty - they were larger than today's, and ... quite expensive. Very rarely, chocolate bottle sets with liquor inside were on sale, but there were ...

I didn’t really like round small cupcakes with raisins, which today are baked in exactly the same conical tins with profiled walls, as then. But I really liked the big cupcakes “brick”, stuffed with raisins to failure. Large and nutty, with nuts inside, but they didn’t seem so tasty to me.


These bread rolls could also be bought only in Moscow ...


I was a little lover of sweets, but I remember that there were sweets with bears in the forest from Shishkin’s paintings, “Bear in the North”, “Goose Feet,” but I mostly liked only truffles, and even “bottles” of liquor

We never bought jam and jams in jars. Grandmother welded his whole basins. It was stored in a closet in large pots and jugs and sugared so much that it could be cut with a knife. They only cherished raspberry - they gave it to patients along with tea to sweat.

It was only in 1968 that my playmates from Proletarskaya Street finally overtook me in the level of well-being of their families. Their parents received apartments, their salary was increased to 330 rubles. plus they began to pay the 13th as well, so they threw their stoves and kerosene to hell, and we continued to cook in the old house in the summer on a kerosene until 1976, when our house was finally demolished.


Here they are, biscuit cakes with cream

In the same year, my mother received the degree of candidate of historical sciences, we went on vacation to Bulgaria. The way we were fed there made a lasting impression on me. I was especially struck by the cakes there. For 14 days of stay, the same gave only two times! And there was a long distance of dry wine "White Wine". Liter for four for lunch and dinner. Two strange girls were sitting at the table with us, and they all the time were shy about something, including drinking this wine. Well, my mother and I drank this bottle for two, and they, poor fellows, were left with mineral water!


There were biscuit rolls with fruit filling, occasionally meringue cakes and cream pie pastries, and potato cakes were also found in all pastry shops

I was very lucky with wine as a child. Guests and relatives came to us quite often, well, from the age of 7 I was poured a glass of port. And then I somehow got sick with measles, as always, very hard, and our old street doctor came to me, who lived in the neighborhood and in the past, a former Zemstvo doctor - still with a listening tube! “If measles is treated, it lasts 14 days,” he said, “and if not treated, but well looked after, then two weeks.” But so that the rash does not spill out on the internal organs, you need to give Cahors - half a glass in the morning, afternoon and evening. And I began to drink Cahors and perfectly endured this measles. And then, already at the age of 14, I had chickenpox, and they anointed me with zelenka and iodine alternately and, again on his advice, they gave me Cahors, but already a glass at a time. So the store even decided that "the grandfather at the Taratynovs washed down!"


All of our “corn treats” today were in 1955, only the packages were different and they were not in special demand. In any case, I never bought these packages

By 1968, a wonderful household restaurant appeared in Penza — the Golden Cockerel inn, sweets of the same name, and branded vodka. Cafe "Snowball" was opened in a house on the main street of Moskovskaya, where ice cream in balls in vases was served: with jam, raisins and cognac. And in 1973 they built the Barrel Bar in the form of a huge barrel, where, in addition to beer, there were eclairs with salty cream. We, students of Penza universities, were ready to stand any line, if only to get there. And to bring her girlfriend there too was the height of elegance and motivation.


But these semi-finished products were constantly used in my family and in other houses on Proletarskaya Street until 1968, and most likely later.

It's just that I stopped visiting my comrades' kitchens then ... In general, the period from 1968 to 1972 I call for myself the "era of mango juice." Then in all Penza food stores there were rows of metal liter cans of mango juice with a very catchy label in blue and yellow. Were with a red label, but there the juice was more liquid. "Blue-label" cans contained a thick, aromatic and very tasty juice, and cost 1 p. 20 kopecks We really liked him, and we began to drink it regularly, a glass after dinner. I was taken to the hospital a day by the bank when I fell ill again - now pneumonia. “Lafa” continued until 1972, when the stream of cans (and they came from India) for some reason suddenly dried up.

Some products were, but, let’s say, were not very popular. For example, I personally really liked black olives, but to buy them in Penza, and not always, it was possible only at the Don store in the very center of the city, that is, it was far from my house. For all my youth, cauliflower was brought only once to a vegetable store near my house. In general, the “food” at that time was extremely seasonal. In the spring - all radishes have a bunch of 10-12 cents. Then she is not at all. So is strawberry. Neither earlier nor later ... Cucumbers and tomatoes, like watermelons, and melons - all in season. At first, people can’t get enough of cucumbers, then no one is looking at them - they just salt it. The situation is just like in the novel "The Brokeback Bear" by Evgeny Permyak, where it was about the first decade of the twentieth century. Reading it, I drew attention to the similarity of life situations, to speech turns, but what does it mean? Only that such a similarity occurred even 50 and 60 years later. That is, the development of social consciousness was slowly going on. And about that something to grow out of season, in greenhouses, not even a word.


I only read about edible asparagus, but I didn’t even see green olives on sale. But they appeared in abundance after 1977. In the village selmag, where I worked then, there were three types of goods: bread, vodka, Dunkin Joy candies and green Afghan olives

Or, for example, cheese. They bought it for a holiday, cut it beautifully and put it on a plate and serve it to guests. Then ... then in the refrigerator he withered, covered with drops of oil. We didn’t eat it regularly; there was no such tradition. Again, I really liked Roquefort cheese, which I first tried in Moscow in 1972. But in Penza they did not sell it. I had to ask my friends to buy it in the Cheese shop on Gorky Street. Once, two of my comrades were nearly kicked out of a compartment when they drove him, he smelled, and when I watched it turned out that he was moldy and that “you guys were deceived ...” It’s good that they had the mind to remember that the person to whom they are taking it is a “great original” and that “they read somewhere that there is such cheese and it is eaten!” But when they even started giving cheese only half a kilo to their hands, this rule did not apply to Roquefort, and I bought an envy of the whole line at once half a head.


Cheese advertisement from the book “On tasty and healthy food”. The most popular type of cheese in the USSR at that time was processed cheese Druzhba. They were taken by all drunks - a bite for three!

In general, the conclusion will be this: in the USSR there was almost everything that is now, but with a smaller assortment. But, as in the case of information, part of this “everything” was in one place, and people in another. That is, it turned out that you were partly to blame, that you didn’t have something: "you didn’t get it." The food as a whole was seasonal, it was difficult to buy vegetables and fruits out of season. Quality ... perhaps it was better overall. But those who claim that “people are being poisoned today” are also wrong. And you don’t take the pickled one ... By the way, sausages were pink inside, and pink ones weren’t from meat at all. But the products of private bakeries, cheese factories, meat products of farms today are not inferior to the then products, and if possible the choice is superior. Well and, of course, a summer residence. What was grown at the dachas then and now are two completely incomparable differences ...

Cookbook of the Country of the Soviets. Food in stores and at home.
In the book “On tasty and healthy food” there was such a picture depicting a brass mortar. But here it is not a mortar, but the word "almonds". In all my youth I have never been able to crush him in such a mortar, although I had this mortar in my childhood, and it was just gorgeous


Here she is: our family brass mortar, and she is really very old

She belonged to my great-grandfather. I know from my grandfather that they then pounded sugar in it, which they bought with their “heads” (cones!), Smashed it with a hammer, wrapped it in a cloth, and chopped small pieces from the sugar bowl with special tweezers (saw them in childhood - just a find for the executioner!) pieces. But if crushed sugar was needed (that was exactly what it was called, but by no means sand!), Then in this stupa they pushed it. And coffee beans were also pounded in it. But now it is used for its intended purpose: as it is written in the book “On tasty and healthy food”, almonds are pounded in it.

To be continued ...
Author:
Articles from this series:
As it was in the USSR. The taste of our childhood
Back to the Land of Soviets. Bra for a boy
Back to USSR. Information for Soviet children
Archival affairs: NKVD on peasants and Stakhanovites
Archival affairs. From “class alien” to “loss of party intuition”
Back to USSR. Mosaic of memory
By the wave of our memory
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  1. Comrade
    Comrade 1 July 2020 05: 21 New
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    Truffles were very tasty - they were larger than today's, and ... quite expensive

    I remember, I remember these sweets, the price at that time was very high, it struck into memory.
    In the very beginning of the 1970s, a kilogram cost 6,50 / kg., But the toffee type "Kis-Kis" or "Pinocchio" 38-40 cents per kilogram. Candies "Kara-Kum" and "Red Poppy" then cost about five rubles - also not cheap. I also remembered the price of condensed milk, fifty-five kopecks of a can. Ice cream "Chestnut", chocolate coated with chocolate, was expensive, 28 cents. The usual cream in a cardboard cup is twelve cents. Fruit - nine cents.
    Sausage cheese - 2,40 / kg, doctor's sausage - about three rubles.
    In Voentorg, we (USSR) sold tarpaulin boots, and of all sizes. Children cost something about three rubles a couple. He spent two winters in them, the second and third grade, at the same time he learned to wrap footcloths. In our school, wearing soldier’s boots was considered a special chic, and whoever had an officer bag instead of a briefcase was like that!
    The town was small, with many military units, the prestige of the military was very high.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 1 July 2020 05: 29 New
      10
      And for some reason I remember the Anarchist Cookbook ... wink
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 06: 13 New
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        Looking at today's abundance of “freezing,” I cannot help but recall that it was also in the USSR, but somehow it was not in demand. For example, I bought Vietnamese frozen pineapples ... The taste is specific, and the first attempt was the last. Cranberries have been sold on the market and are now being sold, only now blueberries, cloudberries and blueberries have been added to it (though, for the sake of the real effect, as the doctors say, you need to eat buckets)

        Parents used to make jam in huge quantities. Until the 90s, refrigerators were not bad (buryus and snowball are still working), but there was not enough capacity for freezing. And the lights were turned off constantly. So the freezing of berries has come into everyday life since the appearance of the Orsk freezer in the house in the 90s.
        The weakness of the refrigerators is proved by the fact that the priest constantly tried to get ice cream. It was worn with mixers (still manual, a separate machine, etc.). But the power of home turquoise was not enough. So they burst homemade ice cream only in winter! Fortunately in the Urals - winter is a good half of the year !!!
        Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich, I’ll go to have breakfast !!!
        1. Edward Vashchenko
          Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 06: 36 New
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          Vladislav,
          Bon Appetit!
          Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you!
          Very interesting, I just didn’t know much about what you are writing about.
          But the pictures in the book "On tasty and wholesome food" with an introductory article by Comrade Mikoyan loved to consider!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 23 New
            +7
            Quote: Edward Vashchenko
            But the pictures in the book "On tasty and wholesome food" with an introductory article by Comrade Mikoyan loved to consider!
            Published in 1952, “A Book about Tasty and Healthy Food” with a circulation of 500 thousand
          2. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 1 July 2020 09: 23 New
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            They lived in different worlds.
            Readers from villages and villages of the RSFSR can confirm.
            Not only sausages, cheeses, but also cakes could be bought only in the city. These goods had to be stored in the refrigerators of the store, and they were not even in the countryside.
            No, no, we did not starve, all of our own, the garden, the cow hens and the piglet supplied us.
            Only in the year 75, in our district center, a shopping center was built, but there was not much of what was described there.
            1. BAI
              BAI 1 July 2020 12: 35 New
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              Not only sausages, cheeses, but also cakes could be bought only in the city

              I worked on the basis of the Raypotrebsoyuz (and this is rural trade) in 1978. Everything was at the base! From ice cream to motorcycles Ural with a sidecar. And where it all diverged is another question.
      2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 06: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Snail N9
        And for some reason I remember the Anarchist Cookbook ... wink

        I tried hard to understand the meaning of your comment! Put a plus, give up explain?
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 1 July 2020 06: 52 New
          +8

          The Anarchist Cookbook - An Anarchist Cookbook, published in 1971, by American William Powell. It is a reference for the manufacture at home of improvised materials of narcotic substances, weapons, explosive devices, poisons.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 06: 57 New
            +6
            Victor Nikolaevich - thanks! I honestly did not know !!!
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 06: 50 New
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      I also remembered the price of condensed milk, fifty-five kopecks of a can.

      As far as I remember, there were three prices for food, depending on the region!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 07: 11 New
        +6
        Vlad! hi
        Not only products, but also manufactured goods.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 07: 50 New
          +8
          I remember Anton that my native Ural belonged to the second belt! Half in the middle. My father explained to me in childhood that we and 15% of the Urals pay for it. So there was a stable sense of justice.
          Although books always had a single price tag, on the last page of the cover. At one time they wrote "the price is negotiable."
          In the late 80s, the concept of "barter" firmly entered! The priest always realized various frauds. Probably the coolest: Two gander changed to two metal greenhouses, which, in turn, to the Ural motorcycle!
          But hello to the Muscovites! In 89, he first tried the wafers of the Rot Front factory. I don’t remember how my mother managed to get them, but for me it was a feast of the stomach !!! Although before that, Yugoslav sweets periodically fell to me, which came to us at the timber industry enterprise in exchange for wood.
          I also remember the father told me about the sweets of his childhood “poop” that he had not tried. But from his words, something from cocoa powder.
          In fact, by the 90s, my parents switched to subsistence farming: a cow, gobies, piglets, geese, hens, turkeys. 20 hundred parts of a garden and a garden + 10 hundred parts of potatoes “on the field of miracles”. In addition, 12 hectares of grassland. From the third grade, my summer passed on the last. On one mowed, on the second rowing, on the third already threw. So we lived hearty, but without chic - like everyone else!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 1 July 2020 08: 10 New
            +6
            Murmansk region belonged to the third zone. The basic salary consists of a salary, + 40% northern coefficient, which comes immediately, + polar bonus, each 5% (there are 8 of them in Murmansk). But the "Poles" need to earn experience.
          2. edmed
            edmed 1 July 2020 09: 13 New
            +5
            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            I also remember the father told me about the sweets of his childhood “poop” that he had not tried. But from his words, something from cocoa powder.

            These were rectangular packs of the type “citric acid”, where the tablets were packed, each separately, in wax paper: “Coffee with milk”, “Cocoa with milk”, “cocoa with milk” was considered an abrasion of the gods yes
            1. edmed
              edmed 1 July 2020 09: 26 New
              +6
              Quote: edmed
              "Coffee with milk", Cocoa with milk "

              P.S., All this was supposed to be dissolved, but it was all nibbled dry, with a bang!
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 10: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: edmed
                Quote: edmed
                "Coffee with milk", Cocoa with milk "

                P.S., All this was supposed to be dissolved, but it was all nibbled dry, with a bang!

                Thank you very much for the clarification!
              2. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 1 July 2020 10: 54 New
                +7
                Quote: edmed
                P.S., All this was supposed to be dissolved, but it was all nibbled dry, with a bang!

                Dry jelly briquettes were crushed wink
                1. edmed
                  edmed 1 July 2020 11: 49 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  Dry jelly briquettes were crushed

                  Well this is a favorite pastime, the most petrified ones were chosen, lasted longer smile .
                2. BAI
                  BAI 1 July 2020 12: 37 New
                  +3
                  Custard in briquettes is better.
                  1. Hantengri
                    Hantengri 1 July 2020 17: 11 New
                    +7
                    I confirm. Custard is the choice of gourmets, and only those who did not care what to gnaw at the jelly.
                3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 12: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  Quote: edmed
                  P.S., All this was supposed to be dissolved, but it was all nibbled dry, with a bang!

                  Dry jelly briquettes were crushed wink

                  I already found Ento !!! drinks
            2. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 1 July 2020 16: 32 New
              +3
              You are a little nearly exact ... with condensed milk
          3. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 1 July 2020 11: 25 New
            +2
            The South Urals (Orenburg) also belonged to the second belt. 1 kg of sugar cost 78 kopecks.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 1 July 2020 16: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        As far as I remember, there were three prices for food, depending on the region!

        The country in this sense was divided into price zones.
        According to information from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1969 - 1978), in the USSR there were 3 price belts with uniform retail prices for a number of goods. The first zone included Moscow and Leningrad, as well as the capitals of the Union republics, the Baltic republics and closed administrative-territorial formations (various secret cities like Arzamas-16), the third - areas of the Far North, Kolyma, Novaya Zemlya. The second price zone included the rest of the USSR. In the first zone, the products were the cheapest, and in the third, on the contrary, the most expensive: in large industrial centers, goods were produced and transported at minimal cost.
      3. Comrade
        Comrade 1 July 2020 17: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        As far as I remember, there were three prices for food, depending on the region!

        That's right, in the Soviet Union there were three belts.
    3. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 1 July 2020 07: 41 New
      10
      Quote: Comrade
      doctor's sausage - about three rubles.


      Doctoral 2-20rub. I remember running around with the boys in the yard, getting hungry, scribbling a trifle in our pockets, buying a loaf of fresh bread with a crisp of 13 kopecks. and juicy doctoral grams of commercials 150. Yummy. The saleswoman cut it thinly for us and wrapped it in gray thick paper.
      1. Liam
        Liam 1 July 2020 07: 43 New
        -14
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        juicy Doctoral gram of commercials 150. Yummy.

        Which after a couple of hours in the refrigerator was covered with a crust of amazing greenish color
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 1 July 2020 08: 01 New
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          Liam. Stupidity wrote.
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 1 July 2020 08: 26 New
          +6
          Here you overdo it, do not distort.
          1. Liam
            Liam 1 July 2020 09: 11 New
            -10
            Unless in terms. After a couple of hours it began to get dark. The emerald color acquired on the second day)
            Since this is not the first article of the cycle, enough airtime was provided to the akham and oham about (the best Soviet) childhood nutrition. It was time to recall how it really was. The author delicately hinted in the passage about the frequent calls of the ambulance due to constant food poisoning
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 1 July 2020 09: 17 New
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              The food poisoning mentioned by the author had nothing to do with the quality of the products. If you violated the terms and conditions established by GOST, storage conditions are your personal problems. In an uncooled room at a temperature not exceeding 20 degrees, amateur sausage made according to the classic Soviet recipe was stored for two days.
              As for "as it really was," the author describes only his own impressions, tied to a specific time and place. As I already wrote, from time and place conditions changed greatly. Question - Did you live in the USSR? If so, where and in what years?
              1. Liam
                Liam 1 July 2020 11: 16 New
                -17
                Quote: Undecim
                then the author describes only his own impressions, tied to a specific time and place

                Yes Yes...somewhere high in the mountains and not in our area... evergreen.
                Quote: Undecim
                established by GOST

                I’m impressed and you can even say-Tronut. The Soviet GOST has long become a legendary fetish for especially impressionable people. It is a pity that he just had the same attitude to real life as the onset of Communism in 1980/2000, the chronic and uncontrolled overpowering of five-year plans and the abundance of everything and everything , as well as the Moral Code of the builder of communism
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 1 July 2020 11: 31 New
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                  Again you judge with aplomb about what you have an extremely vague idea. Soviet GOST was very directly related to real life. Moreover, it reflected all the changes that the products underwent, so the recipe for Soviet cooked sausages can be traced in detail in the changes to these same GOSTs.
                  In your comments on the USSR, certain complexes are clearly visible that interfere with the objective discussion.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 1 July 2020 13: 21 New
                    -15
                    The Soviet GOST, like all other Soviet documents, starting with the decisions of party congresses, contained very correct things (on paper and in theory). The whole problem of the USSR (why it actually fell apart) was that of paper (and GOST number) and people (and the economy) lived in parallel realities that didn’t really stop. So the doctor’s office turned green in the refrigerator and the beer wandered due to unsanitary conditions despite the fact that GOST ordered not to do this)
                2. BAI
                  BAI 1 July 2020 12: 51 New
                  +9
                  It’s a pity he just had the same attitude to real life as the onset of Communism in 1980/2000

                  For violation of GOSTs in the USSR there has been criminal liability since 1930.
                  Article No. 9.

                  Decision of the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars.

                  On criminal liability for the release of defective products and for non-compliance with standards.
                  Along with the enormous quantitative growth of state industry products, a number of cases of deterioration in the quality of manufactured products, both going to a wide market and those intended for the needs of the state industry and transport itself, have been observed recently. The most important task of reducing costs, which must be achieved by rationalizing and increasing labor productivity, enterprises in some cases try to solve by reducing the quality of products. This phenomenon is a serious obstacle to the socialist reorganization of the national economy, and also causes great harm to the interests of workers and peasants, as consumers of goods. Successful socialist construction requires a decisive turning point in the direction of improving product quality and standardizing it.

                  In order to strengthen the fight against the release of substandard products and violation of established standards, the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR Union decide:

                  Based on the second part of Art. The three main principles of the criminal law of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Union Republics (Collected Law of the USSR 3 No. 1927, Article 12) are proposed to the central executive committees of the Union republics to provide in the criminal codes:

                  1) for mass or systematic release of low-quality products from industrial and commercial enterprises - imprisonment for a term of up to 5 years or forced labor for a period of up to 1 year;

                  2) for non-compliance with mandatory standards - imprisonment of up to 2 years or forced labor for a period of up to 1 year.

                  Chairman of the CEC of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics F. Khodzhaev.

                  Deputy Chairmen of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR V. Schmidt.

                  Secretary of the CEC of the USSR A. Yenukidze.

                  Moscow Kremlin.

                  November 23 1929 city

                  Published in No. 5 Izvestia of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR and the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of January 5, 1930

                  In the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1960 - 152 article. Up to 3 years. In the 70s, up to 70 people were planted on it per year.
                  Read here:
                  Tverdyukova E.D. CRIMINAL LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ISSUE OF UNDEFINED GOODS OF WIDE CONSUMPTION IN THE USSR
                  https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/ugolovno-pravovaya-otvetstvennost-za-vypusk-nedobrokachestvennyh-tovarov-shirokogo-potrebleniya-v-sssr
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 1 July 2020 12: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Liam
              Unless in terms. After a couple of hours it began to get dark. The emerald color acquired on the second day)
              Since this is not the first article of the cycle, enough airtime was provided to the akham and oham about (the best Soviet) childhood nutrition. It was time to recall how it really was. The author delicately hinted in the passage about the frequent calls of the ambulance due to constant food poisoning

              Greetings! hi Here people write about the 60-70s, in our conscious age - by the age of 14 (90-91) it was still covered in green if it was not stored in the refrigerator))
              My cat didn’t eat it. I ate brawn - it was of high quality. )))
              Around 1986, a decline in the quality of products and assortment began. Specialists overexposed goods to fuck a leftist, and in some cases reduced output + weakened control over product quality.
              1. Liam
                Liam 1 July 2020 13: 24 New
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                Hello hi
                Well, I’ll be a little older than you. But that doesn’t change the matter. Stories about the abundance of the 60s (so as not to relate to Stalin's time) are left to the conscience of the narrators.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 1 July 2020 13: 34 New
                  +4
                  I am born in 1976
                  My father said that by the mid-60s the situation had returned to normal, and in the 70s it was very good compared to the rest of the USSR.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 1 July 2020 13: 40 New
                    -7
                    I know that you are 76th.

                    Normalized compared to the half-starved Stalin period. This does not mean that it became good, they just stopped starving to death. If you consider this the norm, then yes)
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 1 July 2020 13: 55 New
                      +3
                      Nobody was already dying of hunger in the 50s, according to his father - they ate so-so, everything was fine in the shops, but people didn’t have money in the Moldavian province, and not so much in Chisinau. In the 60s, there was simply more money, thanks in part to Leonid Ilyich, who had discovered a lot of things in Moldova, and that opened the separate Chamber of Commerce in Chisinau in the USSR and opened not only the republic, but also Chisinau. According to our childhood, in the summer we visited relatives in Ukraine (Chernivtsi, Odessa, Donetsk) and Russia - Novosibirsk, Lazarevskoye, Moscow. Chisinau supply was not much inferior to the capital (I didn’t go into details according to my impressions) and surpassed Ukrainian, in my opinion of adults and conversations, Ukrainian, and Bukovinian was the most worthy, from memory.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 20: 42 New
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                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Nobody was already dying of hunger in the 50s,

                        And when did they die?
                    2. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 14: 42 New
                      +7
                      So you found the "bloody hungry Stalinist time"? For some reason, my parents (father -1922 born, mother -1926 born) never talked about this. Yes, and grandfather (b. 1893) and grandmother (1897) also did not say anything. Probably afraid of the KGB.
            3. Comrade
              Comrade 1 July 2020 17: 21 New
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              Quote: Liam
              It’s time to remember how it really was.

              On my way of life I met more than once, people born in the early 1980s, vaguely remembering "perestroika" and claiming that they lived in the Union and therefore remember well how everything was bad there.
              Formally, yes, they lived in the Union, but the Union under Gorbachev was no longer the same.
              Which after a couple of hours in the refrigerator was covered with a crust of amazing greenish color

              You didn’t try to ask, why didn’t the sausage in the store turn green?
              There may be two options, either the sausage on the shelves was less than two hours, or after a couple of hours it did not turn green.
              In passing, we can say that the milk in the Union did not stand in the refrigerator for more than three days, but today it’s nothing for milk and three weeks.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 1 July 2020 20: 27 New
                +6
                ..... did not turn green! .....
                never and nowhere! In geological exploration, where the parents ----- there was no sausage! But in Khabarovsk, Leningrad, Moscow, where on vacation, in the Moscow, Tula region ---- there was a choice of sausages and no green crust.
                Just where the spoilage, the refrigerator did not know how to turn it on! There were dark people!
        3. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 08: 27 New
          +8
          Quote: Liam
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          juicy Doctoral gram of commercials 150. Yummy.

          Which after a couple of hours in the refrigerator was covered with a crust of amazing greenish color

          Bullshit !!! (Elusive Avengers) About a couple of hours.
          Tell me any sort of modern cooked sausage comparable in taste and at a comparable price to the Soviet "Doctor's". The same goes for smoked "Krakow" or "Odessa".
          = call an ambulance carriage! And quite often it happened ... food poisoning! Either with the purity we had “not very”, or it was the products, =
          Due to the fact that the sausages in the store did not lie down, i.e. always been fresh, then your assumption about cleanliness is sufficiently substantiated.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 1 July 2020 12: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: Liam
            Quote: LIONnvrsk
            juicy Doctoral gram of commercials 150. Yummy.

            Which after a couple of hours in the refrigerator was covered with a crust of amazing greenish color

            Bullshit !!! (Elusive Avengers) About a couple of hours.
            Tell me any sort of modern cooked sausage comparable in taste and at a comparable price to the Soviet "Doctor's". The same goes for smoked "Krakow" or "Odessa".
            = call an ambulance carriage! And quite often it happened ... food poisoning! Either with the purity we had “not very”, or it was the products, =
            Due to the fact that the sausages in the store did not lie down, i.e. always been fresh, then your assumption about cleanliness is sufficiently substantiated.

            In 88-91, they threw themselves into the counter in small batches to fuck a leftist. Thus, not very high-quality products also got on the shelves. Svezhak mother got through a friend - the wife of the regional party commander, from special distributors for the party elite. There the assortment was different - smoked chickens, veal, chewed cervelats. )))
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 14: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: Krasnodar

              In 88-91, they threw themselves into the counter in small batches to fuck a leftist.

              You share your experience how to fuck a leftist?
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Svezhak mother got through a friend - wife

              My parents were decent people, so - "get", this is not about them.
              Small problems with the products began with the advent of your idol - Gorbi.
              But the real problems with them were in the 90s. And also thanks to yourself you know to whom.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 1 July 2020 14: 19 New
                +2
                1) No, rather yours - I was 14 years old in 1991.
                2) Did your parents think that Obkomov’s children deserve to eat better than their own? lol
                3) Gorbi is not my idol, but the leader of the CPSU adored by you, whose top ruined the country, privatizing and selling the most valuable of the people's (socialist) property
                4) In the 90s he lived in Israel. Clarify thanks to whom, please hi
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 16: 14 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  1) No, rather yours

                  Well, do not distort. You know that I'm not a trader. I am a manufacturer. No-no-no, not what you thought. I produced material values, i.e. product. Like my parents.
                  Quote: Krasnodar

                  2) Did your parents think that Obkomov’s children deserve to eat better than their own?

                  They did not think about it, they never envied anyone. They believed that eating was necessary in order to live and work, rather than living in order to eat
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  smoked chickens, veal, chewed cervelats. )))
                  They provided our labor with our, albeit not very diverse, but nutritious food.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  3) Gorby is not my idol,

                  I will take a word.
                  Quote: Krasnodar

                  4) In the 90s he lived in Israel. Clarify thanks to whom, please

                  Thanks to your craving to eat "smoked chicken, veal and chewed cervelas".
                  There is a small difference between our parents - yours go to where it is better to live, and mine try to make life better where they live. That’s the whole difference. Otherwise, they are very similar - they love their children, grandchildren, literature, theater, cinema, animals, nature, etc., etc., etc.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 1 July 2020 17: 24 New
                    +2
                    1) Well, my father is a caster, and I am a trader))
                    2) So mine did not envy anyone - they simply adhered to the revolutionary Bolshevik principles of equality in the distribution of benefits to the population)).
                    3) Mine also provided with their labor mine, wholesome and varied, nutrition
                    4) Thanks to this, the Union fell apart? lol And I thought that because of the desire of the Communist Party elites to openly use all the achievements of the West in the field of consumption of material goods and health
                    5) The difference is different - at that time in the republics of the USSR everyone began to look rather hostilely at each other through a national prism - the Jews did not suffer, but there were threats against them, both from some representatives of the peoples of the national republics, and RSFSR - society Memory and other half-nats. Given the deteriorating criminal situation in the early 90s (they connected these events) and the run of everyone in national apartments, my parents left for a Jewish country, of course. Yours were at home, in the national center of the Russian people. They had no reason and sense to go somewhere hi
                    1. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 19: 57 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      1) Well, my father is a caster, and I am a trader))

                      Caster??! belay Do not try to accuse me of trying to offend or insult your father. I did not have such a goal and I do not have it. Just the word "caster" I associate with a man with BSL near a blast furnace in a felt hat. "Foundry" may be the beginning. foundry and by any other manager to the blast furnace is not directly related.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      - simply adhered to the revolutionary Bolshevik principles of equality in the distribution of benefits to the population)).

                      They had perverse concepts of the principles of equality.
                      Say, if someone steals, is cunning, speculates, etc., that means I can.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      4) Thanks to this, the Union fell apart?

                      Thanks to the fact that you liked to eat sweet food? Do not make me fun.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      And I thought that because of the desire of the Communist Party elites to openly use all the achievements of the West in the field of consumption of material goods and health

                      On the one hand, I have to agree with you - yes, the party’s elite has degenerated, has ceased to profess a communist ideology, i.e. ceased to be a communist.
                      But on the other hand I strongly disagree.
                      1. "All Westerners had the opportunity to use all the achievements of the West in the field of consumption of material goods and health care?"
                      Did the USSR have any achievements in this area? Were!
                      Simply, you, as an unjust person, are biased in considering the lives of most people in the USSR and MOST people in the West.
                      Be honest even to yourself. There were pluses both there and there, as were the minuses, and there and there.
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      5) The difference is different - at that time in the republics of the USSR everyone began to look rather hostilely at each other through

                      What nonsense are you talking about? There was nothing like this until the USSR collapsed.
                      And with its collapse in the former nat. the republics who suffered the most? - Russians! Ukrainians and Belarusians fell into this category.
                      But it is the Jews who squeal most of all.
                      Never in my life have I met any signs of anti-Semitism.
                      Disrespect for the Jews as such - yes, met. But the Jews themselves are to blame. No one saw a Jew in a mine, a Jewess on weeding sugar beets on a collective farm, etc. .. All at leading or near posts.
                      But at the same time, I have never met a Jew with a high level of intelligence. But I met Russians and Ukrainians, and very many.
                      Were the Jews treated with respect? Yes they were. But he respected them not for high intelligence, but for human qualities. There were those whom I did not respect. And also for human qualities, and more for nothing.
                      I am convinced that Jews are very fond of crying, that they are being persecuted and insulted on a national basis, and when this is not there, they start to invent it or, finding something, inflate it to a universal scale.
                      My brother urgently served in Yavorov, Lviv region. And I got the opportunity and the desire to go visit him. Upon arrival in Lviv, I went to the forecourt and asked the first passerby how to find the bus station. Of course, after greeting and apologizing. In response - they simply did not notice me. The next passerby reacted in exactly the same way. I turned to the lady, - the result is the same.
                      Then I saw my grandfather with order straps on his jacket, turned to him. Grandfather, a veteran, told in detail where to find what he was looking for and explained the behavior of passers-by - I turned to them in RUSSIAN !!! If I contacted a Polish-Ukrainian surzhik, where Lviv residents speak, I would be taken by the hand to the bus station. And it was in the year 76.
                      A Jew, in this situation, would have screamed that passersby ignored him in the nat. featured.
                      I just said - and - you. All! Not all Lviv residents, but only those passers-by.
                      You Jews do not like just for this, for your whining that you are supposedly offended.
                      So, my advice to you is - do not pay attention to and - com, do not become in the pose of the forever offended by the nat. featured and BE HUMAN.
                      Simply - by the MAN. hi
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 1 July 2020 20: 24 New
                        +5
                        1) Workshop master
                        2)
                        They had perverse concepts of the principles of equality.
                        Say, if someone steals, is cunning, speculates, etc., that means I can.

                        Nobody speculated on anything - the husband of a friend bought us products on our order.
                        3)
                        1. "All Westerners had the opportunity to use all the achievements of the West in the field of consumption of material goods and health care?"
                        Did the USSR have any achievements in this area? Were!
                        Simply, you, as an unjust person, are biased in considering the lives of most people in the USSR and MOST people in the West.
                        Be honest even to yourself. There were pluses both there and there, as were the minuses, and there and there.

                        If the USA is not everything, the FRG and Scandinavia are absolutely everything. If we are talking about healthcare. About material benefits - Mercedes is not affordable for everyone, it's clear laughing
                        The USSR, of course, had achievements - venous CABG, traumatological orthopedics (Elizarov), the most beautiful, on paper, system - diagnostics (lagging behind the West), treatment (also lagging), spa treatment - rehabilitation (this is still the case) available in the West with reservations, although the quality is high). There were certainly pros and cons, but I consider life as the MAJORITY - and here everything is not in favor of the USSR.
                        4)
                        But it is the Jews who squeal most of all
                        Yes, Friedman with Vekselberg and Israeli citizens scream so much that they cannot fall asleep, together with Michelson lol
                        No one saw a Jew in a mine, a Jewess on weeding sugar beets on a collective farm, etc.

                        I saw - the father is the foreman in the foundry, the grandfather of the milling machine ... their choice, I would not do that. Although in the same Israel at one time had to smack physically)).
                        But at the same time, I have never met a Jew with a high level of intelligence. But I met Russians and Ukrainians, and very many.
                        I believe that they have not met. In the Nobel Committee they say they met - these were just luckier)).
                        I am convinced that Jews are very fond of crying, that they are being persecuted and insulted on a national basis, and when this is not there, they start to invent it or, finding something, inflate it to a universal scale.

                        Yes, bullshit - a pair of genocides, equalized in the rights of the century in the 19th, and even then not everywhere, but yes - then whine laughing
                        If I contacted a Polish-Ukrainian surzhik, where Lviv residents speak, I would be taken by the hand to the bus station. And it was in the year 76.
                        A Jew, in this situation, would have screamed that passersby ignored him in the nat. featured.

                        A Jew would have addressed them in English so that they would have to speak Russian with him laughing There was such a story recently with my friends from Israel in a Lviv bar ...
                        You Jews do not like just for this, for your whining that you are supposedly offended.
                        Yes, what is the Jewish whining? I always hear whining from others - Jews are oligarchs, they destroyed the Union, threw off the king, bombed the unfortunate Syria stealthily, etc. for any reason - wake up, awww ... listen to whining - these are not Jews laughing
                        do not pay attention to and - com, do not become in a pose of the forever offended by nat. featured and BE HUMAN.
                        Simple - HUMAN
                        And touch, mock? )))
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 20: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        And touch, mock? )))

                        Mock the wretched - do not respect yourself. I won’t answer the rest, I’m tired, not feed the horse. This is your purely Jewish view.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 1 July 2020 20: 55 New
                        +2
                        Well, yes - a purely Jewish view. laughing They just wrote themselves that they have not seen a single Jew miner, and I, damn it, have a purely Jewish look with which I saw such people fellow Well, not funny yourself?
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 1 July 2020 21: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        damn, a purely Jewish look,

                        Forced to answer. It was because of this, Jewish, view that you paid attention to what I did not indicate.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Jews oligarchs, destroyed the Union,

                        This is the whining of the Russians that the Russians spread rot on nat. featured?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        threw off the king

                        Is that also about that?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        bombing unhappy Syria stealthily

                        And is it about the poor persecuted Russians?
                        I answered you your cry about the poor Jews who were spread rot, and in the RSFSR, too, because they are Jews.
                        What are you talking about?
                        This is purely Jewish freaks. Calm down already. As a Jew, you do not interest me in any way. Only as a person.
                        And, no offense will be said, I would not go into intelligence with you, and not because you are a Jew. For completely different reasons.
                        You like to eat deliciously, and in intelligence, as you hopefully understand, it’s not up to culinary delights. laughing
                        hi
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 08: 38 New
                        +1
                        1) No, whining of people who are looking for those responsible for their own problems)).
                        2) Have you often had to go into intelligence? lol
                        By the way, I ate the Russian Beachpack number three. Better than Israel - more satisfying, in my opinion tastier and more thoughtful hi
                      6. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 2 July 2020 20: 06 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        1) No, whining of people who are looking for those responsible for their own problems)).

                        Yes, I must admit, the Russians know how to create difficulties for themselves, and then, courageously overcome them. But not whining. You bent it without thinking.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        2) Have you often had to go into intelligence?

                        With you never.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        lol
                        By the way, I ate the Russian Beachpack number three. Better than Israel - more satisfying, in my opinion tastier and more thoughtful

                        This is because it is designed for harsh climatic conditions.
                        And what about tastier, because it’s not all, you praised Western technology, cooking got to us.
                        But I suppose they’ll get there soon. Bourgeois, he is in Africa - bourgeois.
                        They will begin to optimize the cooking technology, they will find any substitutes, well, so that the profit, so to speak.
                        For you, the topic of profit, I’m sure, is also very exciting. wink
                      7. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 20: 42 New
                        0
                        1) I'm not talking about Russians at all. I’m talking about those who blame everything on anyone but themselves)) The Jews then created a country, they are at war, they live better than the French, therefore, they don’t whine hi And in other countries, they are arranged no worse than the average population.
                        2) With me - clearly not)). And if you went, then love to eat tasty here and? lol
                        3) For me, the topic of profit is always exciting - 4 children.
                      8. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 2 July 2020 20: 58 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Hebrews created a country, they fight, they live better than the French, therefore, they don’t whine hi

                        Well, how is it, they don’t whine? What about the Holocaust? The eternal whining, on which Israel made a gesheft of incredible size. Thanks to this, I wander and Israel lives better than France. And they continue to whine - Arabs and Persians want us, such good, under the root of lime.
                        And to prevent this from happening, we will bomb both of them.
                        In the first case, whining for the sake of geshefta, in the second - for the sake of justifying his banditry in BV.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        2) With me - clearly not)). And if you went, then have a tasty meal here?

                        There are concepts of delicious and very tasty. Nutritionally - not always very tasty. And in intelligence, it is important to nutritionally and of small volume and weight.
                      9. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 22: 38 New
                        +1
                        1) Arabs and Persians whine from the bombing - Jews explain why they bomb. And this is not a robbery Syria attacked Israel three times, is with him in a state of war. Iranians support money and weapons to Hezbollah, Hamas, openly threatening to destroy Israel.
                        The Holocaust - the Germans took away from the destroyed and exiled Jews of Germany businesses, property and money much more than the amount of reparations that are paid to them. And this is only in the Reich, but in Western Europe?
                        The standard of living - the average Israeli produces and three times more than the average Russian - from there and grandmother. Whining about Jewish grandmothers with genocide and robbery in such a peaceful and philanthropic region as BV is not a topic.
                        2) In deep intelligence, the main thing is communication fellow You can eat biscuits with jam.
                      10. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 2 July 2020 23: 18 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        why bombed.

                        Why?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        why bombed. And this is not a robbery Syria attacked Israel three times, is with him in a state of war. Iranians

                        Who just didn’t attack Russia, bomb all?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Iranians support money and arms to Hezbollah, Hamas, in

                        Russia supports Syria, which attacked Israel three times,
                        To bomb Russia?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        support money and weapons to Hezbollah, Hamas, openly threatening to destroy Israel.

                        To threaten to marry does not mean to marry.
                        Let Israel threaten, not bomb. What is the problem?
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        The Holocaust - the Germans took away from the destroyed and exiled Jews of Germany businesses, property and money much more than the amount of reparations that are paid to them. And this is only in the Reich, but in Western Europe?

                        Today it doesn’t matter how many were taken, it matters how much today and yesterday Israel received for this.
                        And how many Germans were selected, destroyed in the USSR? But we do not whine and do not demand, we do not bill the whole world for 28 million of our citizens.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        The standard of living - the average Israeli produces and three times more than the average Russian - from there, and grandmother.

                        Produces three times more than what?
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        2) In deep intelligence, the main thing is fellow communication. You can eat biscuits with jam.

                        Why not sorrel and nettle? laughing
                      11. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 23: 35 New
                        -1
                        Why?

                        They do not want a second front in Syria during the next war with Hezbollah - they are destroying Iranian infrastructures.
                        2)
                        Who just didn’t attack Russia, bomb all?
                        But is there a country that is in an official state of war with Russia and creates a base on its territory threatening to destroy units?
                        3)
                        Russia supports Syria, which attacked Israel three times,
                        To bomb Russia?
                        Russia, unlike Iran, does not threaten Israel with destruction, has visa-free and diplomatic relations with it
                        4)
                        To threaten to marry does not mean to marry.
                        Let Israel threaten, not bomb. What is the problem?
                        The fact that Israel does not build a base on the border with Iran, its own organization and its control, which in the past fired at the Iranian peaceful people, kidnapped citizens, etc.
                        5)
                        Today it doesn’t matter how many were taken, it matters how much today and yesterday Israel received for this.
                        Nevermind, it doesn’t matter ... laughing ... your neighbor will squeeze out, say, an apartment, (Gd forbid), after the term of imprisonment has served, it will not matter to you how much he will give you?
                        6)
                        And how many Germans were selected, destroyed in the USSR? But we do not whine and do not demand, we do not bill the whole world for 28 million of our citizens.

                        According to the report, the USSR seized property worth over 66 billion marks of the GDR ($ 15,8 billion) from its occupation zone and subsequently from the GDR. According to the General Trophy Administration, published in the 1990s by Russian researchers, in the USSR, in particular, 72 thousand wagons of building materials, about 3 thousand factories, 96 power plants, 340 thousand machine tools, 200 thousand electric motors, 1 million 335 thousand head of cattle, 2,3 million tons of grain. Deliveries from the western occupation zones due to reparations for the USSR ceased in 1949 after the creation of the Federal Republic of Germany.
                        Therefore, whining about Jewish grandmothers is not necessary))
                        7)
                        Produces three times as much
                        Goods and services - well, it’s not producing oil laughing
                        8)
                        Why not sorrel and nettle?
                        You can salad with dandelions - the main thing is that they grow there ...))
                      12. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 3 July 2020 08: 06 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        According to the report, the USSR removed from its occupation

                        Read and envy.
                        https://w.histrf.ru/articles/article/show/rieparatsii_sovietskomu_soiuzu
                        Forced to move away, so my answer is stingy to impossibility. repeat
                      13. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 3 July 2020 10: 29 New
                        0
                        I read, and to whom to envy? Own parents, grandfathers and grandmothers? )))
  • Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 1 July 2020 07: 51 New
    +2
    Now the main thing is sales (income), on solid chemistry. Hence the sores with a lack of immunity. Supermarkets sell a lot on chemistry, and very little on natural cultivation (low margin).
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 28 New
    +6
    Quote: Comrade
    I remember, I remember these sweets, the price at that time was very high, it struck into memory.
    In the very beginning of the 1970s, a kilogram cost 6,50 / kg., But the toffee type "Kis-Kis" or "Pinocchio" 38-40 cents per kilogram.

    In St. Petersburg in the mid-60s, you go to the bakery, and there, besides buns and bread, they sold coffee and tea for bottling, but very cool, there were dozens of candies, and there were dozens of them, of different sorts. I’m going home on vacation, and I take each 100 grams, five kilograms, for my brother and sister, what a joy it was for them.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 1 July 2020 11: 08 New
    +4
    Butterscotch: "kitty-kitty" I remember well, and "tuzik" I have never heard of such.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 1 July 2020 18: 12 New
      0
      ,, Tuzik "- chocolates of the highest grade, the price is about 7 r per kg, such as ,, Alenka" or ,, Little Red Riding Hood "
      Kis kis, ,, Golden Key. "
      But there were also soybean, Caucasian ones at a price of 1 rub.10 kopecks / kg and for some reason were sold without wrappers.
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 1 July 2020 11: 28 New
    +3
    butterscotch type "Kies Kies" or "Pinocchio"
    ,
    these 2 r 80 kopecks, and the most expensive toffee - "Fun" - 4 r per kg.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 1 July 2020 17: 32 New
      +4
      By the way, the “Barrel” beer cafe shown in the photograph at the beginning of the article was in the city of Novorossiysk back in Soviet times. It was located near the city beach and was a really big barrel. It was popular with the townspeople due to the quality of the “Novorossiysk” beer at that time. It was demolished under Gorbachev, at the peak of the "anti-alcohol company." Now in its place is the same cafe, but already, only stylized as "old".
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 1 July 2020 18: 13 New
      +1
      ,, Buratieo "is not toffee, but a chocolate bar ...
  • Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 06: 37 New
    +6
    Vietnamese frozen pineapples ...

    This is something I have not seen or heard about them.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 06: 45 New
      +9
      Good morning Edward!
      Quote: Edward Vashchenko
      Vietnamese frozen pineapples ...

      This is something I have not seen or heard about them.

      I was also surprised at the mention of mango juice. But having estimated the years, I realized that Vyacheslav Olegovich’s youth came at a time when I was not in the project yet !!!
      Although I got the impression that the 70s were optional in the store much richer than the late 80s.
      1. Edward Vashchenko
        Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 06: 50 New
        +9
        Good morning,
        Although I got the impression that the 70s were optional in the store much richer than the late 80s.

        Similar thoughts, although I was also a child.
        but I remember that only in the 80s I saw "mango juice" from India and marmalade from Finland.
        I lived in a coastal city, my father worked abroad, so of course everything was more diverse,
        but I remember in St. Petersburg where I studied, I was struck by the sale of bananas near the Palace Bridge, and a short queue.
        I could not stand bananas, 6 but somehow.
        1. edmed
          edmed 1 July 2020 09: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: Edward Vashchenko
          it was only in the 80s that I saw "mango juice" from India and

          82-83 g, on the way to work, there was a stall where there was no, not “mango juice” but “mango puree”, people didn’t take it, but it came to me, although it was a little expensive, 3.50 per, in the 800 g mine.
      2. Edward Vashchenko
        Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 06: 54 New
        10
        Well, I can’t talk about the general:
        The problem of the USSR, as Vyacheslav Olegovich noted, was in the distribution of goods, and the second point, in pricing. Calculate, for example, how many cans of black caviar can be bought now for an average salary and then.
        Raise the price, even to the market (bazaar) and everything would be in stores, not a surrogate, as it is now6, but natural.
        but for ethical reasons, the USSR government would not do that.
        and a quote from a wonderful article:
        Their parents got an apartment, their salary was increased to 330 p. plus they began to pay also the 13th,
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 07: 20 New
          16
          . Their parents received apartments, their salary was increased to 330 rubles. plus they began to pay also the 13th,

          My parents in the 80s received a salary of 200 rubles per month.
          A kitchen set “Crystal” cost 600 rubles, a Gomel wall with hands - 1000. Maybe I lied where I write from memory!
          I remember my father asked for beggars. Until the 90s, they really weren’t. There were parasites - like Vanya Tratur moonshiner. Hiding 40 liter aluminum barrels with braga in the beds. There were mentally ill people, like Katya Selyabina. According to our children's beliefs - the landowner's daughter. But none of them was starving or begging. Vanya Tratur could afford even the Ant scooter from the income from moonshine.
          Therefore, for me beggars - there was something wild and terribly old! Alas, the 90s sowed pink glasses from me.
          Today, a grandmother delving into the trash can of capital Yekaterinburg is a reality.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 12 New
            +6
            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            I remember my father asked for beggars. Until the 90s they really weren’t.

            In the early 50s there were still. Grandmothers with children walked through the villages and asked for repentance, but this was a legacy of the war, the father died in the war, and the wife could not feed the children. Served all who could. I still remember the tears in my eyes.
            1. BAI
              BAI 1 July 2020 12: 55 New
              +4
              There were always beggars near the Trinity-Sergius Lavra (in the USSR - Zagorsk, now Sergiev Posad). But these are professionals.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 1 July 2020 14: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: BAI
                There were always beggars near the Trinity-Sergius Lavra (in the USSR - Zagorsk, now Sergiev Posad). But these are professionals.

                At any church and cathedral, they always were, even in Soviet times. In Smolensk, the same picture, and professionals were sitting there and sitting. Back in the 70s, one lady arrives at the Zhiguli, sets it away from the cathedral, and with two children (neighbors) asks for alms. An attractive lady, people are a basement, including me, although I knew that she was a pro.
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 1 July 2020 17: 51 New
                +4
                As in the St. Petersburg metro. Today I rarely travel, but I see the same faces that I did 15 years ago.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 July 2020 12: 52 New
          +3
          Then black caviar was taken out or bought through special distributors for Obkomovites in Berezka - since there were no relatives abroad who could legally send up to $ 300 per family, then through sailors
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 1 July 2020 19: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Then black caviar was obtained or bought in Berezka through special distributors for Obkomovites

            Good evening, Edward !! Black caviar fell / rarely / into grocery pre-holiday sets at enterprises. But of course, it depended on the enterprise where the person worked. My father visited, my mother didn’t. That's something like that.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 1 July 2020 19: 10 New
              +3
              Hello, Sergey! hi In Moscow - I do not argue. State in the state - was and remains))
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 1 July 2020 19: 21 New
                +3
                Yes, there was such practice throughout the country. Very much depended on the trade union committee of the enterprise. Well, and certainly on the products that this particular enterprise produced.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 1 July 2020 19: 23 New
                  +2
                  At the father’s factory and at mother’s school, this was not the case. Black caviar was at home sometimes. Red - almost always, for her my cat was ready to sell Lenin)).
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 1 July 2020 19: 29 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    my cat was ready to sell Lenin)).

                    What an interesting thought! But I didn’t even offer it to myself. Meat, yes, love! But caviar? Hmm. I’ll conduct an experiment, refuse, I will eat it myself!
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 1 July 2020 19: 31 New
                      +2
                      Gobble up with a saucer for food laughing
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 19: 39 New
                        +2
                        Comrades, get a Labrador! These creatures, for a banana skin Eskimos Israel sell !!!
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 1 July 2020 19: 44 New
                        +2
                        And why does such a small nation like the Eskimos have such great happiness as Israel? ))))
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 20: 06 New
                        +2
                        For the ethnic diversity of the state! laughing
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 08: 42 New
                        +2
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        For the ethnic diversity of the state! laughing

                        Eskimo? )))
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 2 July 2020 08: 43 New
                        +1
                        Well, not Israeli? laughing
                      6. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 08: 49 New
                        +2
                        Did they pay you in Eskimo currency?
                      7. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 2 July 2020 08: 53 New
                        +1
                        Why with me? With Labradors, the national eskimo currency - banana skins.
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 09: 51 New
                        +2
                        Banana, not walrus? laughing
                      9. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 2 July 2020 09: 57 New
                        +1
                        The fact is that walrus skins are not lying on the streets, therefore, I did not have the opportunity to experimentally study the addiction of Labrador addiction to them. Unlike bananas.
                      10. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 09: 59 New
                        +2
                        And where did the Eskimos get banana skins? Direct from Latin America via Toronto? laughing
                      11. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 2 July 2020 10: 02 New
                        +1
                        I will call in the evening with an Ecuadorian customer - I will definitely take an interest! laughing
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 1 July 2020 20: 08 New
      +2
      Anton! Banana-intolerant fruit! Soon to be banned! In the light of recent bans! laughing
    3. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 20: 28 New
      +2
      Yes, and all movie heroes will slip on ideologically seasoned watermelon peels! laughing
      Meanwhile, until now, we have watermelons - a seasonal product, but here bananas, already 30 years old, are year-round. Sometimes they are cheaper than potatoes. Damned globalism!
    4. Phil77
      Phil77 1 July 2020 20: 36 New
      +1
      Yes, there are no questions for watermelons, yet! But for tangerines! There are questions, and I think it's time for the Chinese comrades to ask them. Ask and demand! laughing
    5. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 20: 41 New
      +2
      to Chinese comrades
      You only do not say this with the Abkhazians!
    6. bubalik
      bubalik 1 July 2020 21: 00 New
      +2
      Anton hi
      to Chinese comrades
      You only do not say this with the Abkhazians!
      ,,, they generally smoke on the sidelines. yes
      ,,, in January-April 2019, Morocco accounted for 44,3% of all volumes, Pakistan - 26,6%, Turkey - 19,9%, other countries - 9,2%.
    7. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 21: 06 New
      +2
      That is why it is not necessary! laughing
  • Phil77
    Phil77 2 July 2020 07: 52 New
    +2
    Good morning Anton! I had in mind this meaning-
    * mandarin * -Chinese official, from Sanskrit * mantrin * -advisor.
    So the Chinese can really have a claim. bully
  • bubalik
    bubalik 1 July 2020 19: 53 New
    +2
    Phil77 (Sergey) Today, 20: 21

    ,,, and what is the difference?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 1 July 2020 20: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, and what is the difference?

      The difference? Yes there is a difference. The father worked at the glass factory and their products diverged literally. Consequently, those who are interested in the factory’s products need to be friends with the management of this factory, and where the management is there and the trade union committee. Principle ** You tell me. * Hence, the sets are good. And my mother worked in a kindergarten, well, then everything is clear. hi
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 1 July 2020 20: 07 New
        +3
        ,,, but not Sergey, I did not say well. that's about caviar. Well, it was not possible then, but I still don’t take it. Why does everyone compare caviar, drinks, some jokes about the "green train"? I don’t understand this at all.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 1 July 2020 20: 15 New
          +4
          Seryozha, it’s like, nostalgic memories. Childhood, youth, beautiful girls, soda for three pennies with syrup, one without it, blue sky, green grass, and a lot of good things. And the main thing is youth!
          Something like that!
          I’ve offered Olegovich a topic about street slang, but he’s rejected, I’m not a philologist! It’s a pity! He would have succeeded!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 1 July 2020 20: 29 New
            +3
            He always turns out how he comes from the dacha! laughing
          2. bubalik
            bubalik 1 July 2020 20: 34 New
            +6
            Phil77 (Sergey) Today, 21: 15

            And why they say that there was nothing? request
            If you take about me, then the end of the 80s. I remember bread for 1 rub. I bought 5 loaves of white. I myself grew up in a village 40 km from Samara (Kuibyshev). Father is a driver, mother is in kindergarten. I had skis and skates and bicycles.
            As for food: sausage was always in the refrigerator, there were apples in the winter, there were always tangerines on NG. There were cakes and pastries in the store. Lemonade "Bell" "Pinocchio" in the store always. "Tarragon" is rare. I rather liked the juice in the jars "Apple Peach" with pulp. Yantar cheese with a fresh loaf is delicious. Father at the end of 80 brought the cheese "heads" from the factory. Chocolate and sweets.
            But here's the thing, they kept the farm. repeat Cows, pigs, sheep, chickens, ducks, geese. + Garden. So there have always been meat. At 87, my father bought a car Moskvich 2140. My grandfather had 2 Ant scooters (I drove them fishing). Parents brought ice cream in the winter from the city for a whole box. Well, they will sell meat on the market. (then it was easier with that). I don’t remember caviar.
            Grandmother cheesecakes, baked cakes, pancakes.
            They scored a whole cellar for the winter, now I think why so much, in the summer they threw out more than half. Tomatoes and pickles, jam (raspberry, currant, strawberry, gooseberry).
            Watermelons in a barrel. Sauerkraut. Stewed cherries and apples.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 20: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Phil77
        * Hence, the sets are good.

        And which sets are good, Serge?
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 1 July 2020 20: 48 New
          +3
          Volodya, that's purely from memory!
          Tea with an elephant / two or three packs,
          a can of coffee / Indian, such a brown can /, banana herring, salmon in cans / also two or three /, the sausage was half-smoked, there was something of alcohol there. And caviar!
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 20: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Phil77
            Volodya, that's purely from memory!
            Tea with an elephant / two or three packs,

            Okay. Eh ... We were given gifts: For the New Year, from 12 bottles of wine to 4 bottles of vodka (gradually reduced), from a couple of bottles of vodka with salami, to a couple of bottles of sparkling wine with a box of chocolates. crying
  • Alexy
    Alexy 1 July 2020 16: 36 New
    +4
    With black caviar comparison is absolutely unacceptable.
    Compare just the prices of meat, milk
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Although I got the impression that the 70s were optional in the store much richer than the late 80s

    Of course, day and night.
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 1 July 2020 18: 23 New
    +2
    Just in the 70s, we had mango juice in all stores, though not per liter, but 0.8 liters
  • Free wind
    Free wind 1 July 2020 06: 56 New
    +3
    There were, they were in bags. The first time did not like. Then it seemed normal, when they liked, they disappeared. request
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 08: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      There were, they were in bags. The first time did not like. Then it seemed normal, when they liked, they disappeared. request

      I only remember the “hated apricot” and dried dates in paper boxes! True, the first has always been a lot, and the second is not enough!
      I remember a supermarket was opened in my town, and there they tried the model cars of the “combi”, then all my peers put their savings into this miracle machine with opening doors, hood and trunk. However, they bought me my first model of an airplane and a ship! On the second model of the aircraft (fabulous 25 rubles), I saved myself! They flew on compressed carbon dioxide (spray cans from a siphon). Of course, conditionally. But my first experiments (for example, transferring them to electricity) learned from them. Now I understand all this utopia, but then at 8-10 years old !!!
      Okay stop. It bore me something to the memories!
      Vyacheslav Olegovich respect and respect for the memories when the sausage was determined not by name, but by the price of “two fifteen”, “three fifty” !!! But factory dumplings were served only in cafeterias and, by no means, they looked like home-made dumplings, while remaining edible !!! The sauce was sold in cans, and mayonnaise in glass !!! Chewing gum at a construction site or pine resin in the forest !!! Even the time when - two loaves of bread in one hand, I recall with nostalgia, and yet the lines were really crazy (four people for the whole lump)! After that, in Spirits another day - these rolls had to be brought home dry. Bypassing the columns, wells and other sources of water !!! So "go for bread" in Spirits day is a real operation. When it cooperates with its neighbors, it stocks up with spray guns, sausages (water chambers) and first makes its way past the high-rise buildings (they didn’t receive a full ball of water from the fifth floor for the scruff), from column to column towards the bread side, and then (in the teeth, a string bag with two rolls, in the hands of a spray and bombs) back !!! Although there was a rule "do not wet the bread", but in the heat of a wave of battle, it was not like that!
      All stop! Good day comrades !!!
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 1 July 2020 09: 37 New
        +2
        Aircraft on CO2. Junior. It was. Just the other day I was cleaning my father’s garage. I threw the box out from under this. Very dense foam. Thirty years have passed and the box is like new.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Edward Vashchenko
    This is something I have not seen or heard about them.

    I remember the dried ones.
  • Looking for
    Looking for 1 July 2020 16: 47 New
    -4
    Another invention of Shpakovsky. There were no such millionaires in cities. And he hangs noodles about Penza.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 18: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Seeker
      Another invention of Shpakovsky. There were no such millionaires in cities. And he hangs noodles about Penza.

      Noodles! Well, well - this is also on the topic !!! But why hang it?
      I remember my grandmother made homemade noodles from dumplings dough !!! Although I liked cakes more !!!
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 21: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Edward Vashchenko
    Vietnamese frozen pineapples ...

    This is something I have not seen or heard about them.

    But there were plenty of dried bananas.
  • Avior
    Avior 1 July 2020 06: 48 New
    +7
    . In general, the conclusion will be this: in the USSR there was almost everything that is now, but with a smaller assortment.

    It is also necessary to add, in places (except for Moscow, essno. They needed to find the necessary things there as well).
    In one city there were olives, in another a compote of peaches, in the third - curd cheese in chocolate and so on.
    In one city it was full of Hungarian canned food, in another they were a curiosity.
    I did not even imagine about mango juice in the USSR until today, we had two types of juice — tomato and birch in a kind of sweetened water, there were shops in which the windows were full of three-liter cans, and in the corner there was a small set of other products.
    Chocolates were considered an expensive treat, but there were cheap sweet tiles.
    Cheese, if you were lucky and managed to catch it, there were two kinds - Dutch and Russian. Melted cheese was not a deficit, but they were valued very low.
    In general, when they say that everything was in the USSR, it was somehow not taken into account that it was, but it was scattered in space by a huge country and in time for decades :)
    And if you wanted to drink Tokai with crab meat, then for Tokai in 1986, and for crab meat in 1990 :))
    And so that such an assortment is stable and predictable, is it possible that in Moscow it was, and even then not always.
    So now it will be difficult for young people to understand Zhvanetsky’s humoresque about a warehouse where everything is there and the reaction of a Soviet person to it :)
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 07: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: Avior
      we had two kinds of juice - tomato and birch

      I dug it out in the basement a year ago and drank it.

      Despite the fact that in the region this juice was made. But not as sweet as Georgian.
      1. Avior
        Avior 1 July 2020 07: 35 New
        +3
        During my student days, I got to canneries several times instead of a collective farm; then in September it was necessary
        The vast majority of products from these local factories I have never seen on sale.
        Although it cannot be said that there were no others
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 07: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          The vast majority of products from these local factories I have never seen on sale.

          I saw, moreover, wine (apple), with the dry law of Gorbachev. Only no one bought it. However, it was in a small village, and this wine there was in bulk, like the apples we went to.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Despite the fact that in the region this juice was made. But not as sweet as Georgian.

        On a spill, a glass of 10 cents.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      In one city it was full of Hungarian canned food, in another they were a curiosity.

      And Bulgarian canned vegetables, salted and pickled tomatoes and cucumbers, lecho, tomato sauce, different juices in bottles, and of course the wonderful "Bulgarian Muscatel".
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 1 July 2020 16: 50 New
        0
        Perhaps not the Bulgarian but Hungarian canned food firms Globus
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 1 July 2020 17: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Seeker
          Perhaps not the Bulgarian but Hungarian canned food firms Globus

          There were Hungarian (in 5 ltr. Cans) and a lot of vinegar, Bulgarian mostly 800 gr. jars, and pickled and sterilized and in their own juice. We had very few Hungarian. Bulgarian fresh tomatoes were brought in the spring. Bulgarian were very high quality. Different regions were supplied differently.
    3. edmed
      edmed 1 July 2020 12: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      And if you wanted to drink Tokai

      "Tokai Nuggets", as well as "Slynchev Bryag", "White Stork" were all respected and valued by girls repeat , eh- "Well, there is no romanticism!" laughing
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 1 July 2020 16: 52 New
        0
        the white stork is actually Moldova.
        1. edmed
          edmed 1 July 2020 16: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Seeker
          the white stork is actually Moldova.

          Actually, this is the USSR, and therefore the goods of the MSSR were present on the Siberian markets.
    4. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 1 July 2020 12: 27 New
      0
      I completely agree, everything was, but in different cities. Samrls in Tomsk, so you could buy corn sticks only in Novosibirsk, Tarkhun drank only when they sent to his grandfather in the Altai Territory for the summer, and transferred the condensed milk from the resulting rations from the northern part of the Krasnoyarsk Territory.
      Candies "Meteorite" produced at our movie "Red Star" I tried only when my grandfather got a guard there (they sent them to the golden-headed one), and the bird was allocated to one of the parents only on certain holidays.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 July 2020 17: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Gvardeetz77
        and only on certain holidays the bird was allocated to one of the parents.

        Yeah, you won’t envy when the "white stork" was given out on holidays.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 July 2020 14: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      And so that such an assortment is stable and predictable, is it possible that in Moscow it was, and even then not always.

      Well, not only in Moscow, there were other places.
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 1 July 2020 06: 56 New
    +7
    Thanks for the trip! I also remember the city, the village, but of course, all the same rural food wins the city food, especially cooked in the oven ... I remember the language was eaten when my grandmother cooked millet porridge with field mushrooms, potatoes in sour cream and much more.
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 1 July 2020 07: 47 New
      +6
      Grandma even baked bread in the oven, about once every two weeks, huge white loaves, one immediately on the table, the others in the well, they were stored there. Tastier than bread in life did not eat.
      1. Liam
        Liam 1 July 2020 07: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Van 16
        Tastier than bread in life did not eat.

        Two week out of the well?
        1. Van 16
          Van 16 1 July 2020 07: 57 New
          +6
          Either this bread, or the well)) The bread did not grow moldy or stale, and after two weeks the crackers were dried from it. White, friable, delicious!
          1. Vadim Golubkov
            Vadim Golubkov 1 July 2020 14: 40 New
            +2
            Because the bread was real. I confirm that my grandmother will bake bread and he lies for a week and does not grow moldy.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 July 2020 17: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Van 16

        Grandmother even baked bread in the oven, about once every two weeks, huge white loaves, one immediately on the table, the rest in the well

        It is clear either the Stavropol Territory or the Krasnodar Territory.
        1. Van 16
          Van 16 1 July 2020 18: 17 New
          +2
          Not really, the Orenburg region, there grew up.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 1 July 2020 19: 09 New
            +2
            What area, fellow countryman?
            1. Van 16
              Van 16 2 July 2020 12: 20 New
              +1
              Buzuluk district))
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 2 July 2020 20: 32 New
                +1
                And I myself am Orenburg. Buzuluk is some 200 km from the city. There in Coltubank the pioneer camp was a flight school. Now, probably, they have sold everything.
                1. Van 16
                  Van 16 3 July 2020 05: 25 New
                  +1
                  My niece is now working in Orenburg, I was traveling in Koltubank, it is somewhere near Tupikovka, if I am not mistaken. hi
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 July 2020 19: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: Van 16
            Not really, the Orenburg region, there grew up.

            Yes, there, too, baked white bread, and we have only rye.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 1 July 2020 07: 04 New
    +4
    And I remember the pyramids of canned goods in the store and the shelves lined with Bulgarian wine braided with vines, everything disappeared in the late eighties.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 1 July 2020 18: 27 New
      0
      Braided by a vine, it’s, "Gamsa" x Georgia ...
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 1 July 2020 21: 44 New
        0
        Gmza is Bulgaria
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 19: 11 New
      +1
      And in the 60s behind the glass showcase there were screw columns laid out of chocolate bars - "Guards", "Polar", "Milk"
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 1 July 2020 07: 13 New
    +3
    By the way, our village was near the town of Serdobsk, almost fellow countrymen with the author smile
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 07: 19 New
    +3
    We sold bird milk in our city. However, and released.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 08: 27 New
      +3
      Hi Vladimir! We had "bird milk" - sweets! And appreciated with a white filling! A row of sweets with "white" was eaten with yellow and gray later than by experiment; laughing
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 08: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        We had "bird milk" - sweets!

        And we produced and release sweets and cakes, but the taste has become worse, definitely. I don’t have any acquaintances from the factory, I would have asked why.
      2. Gvardeetz77
        Gvardeetz77 1 July 2020 12: 30 New
        +1
        For us, on the contrary, only yellow was appreciated, then white and brown at the end of the food chain. They lay in a box at random, had to bite-break winked
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 1 July 2020 12: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Hi Vladimir! We had "bird milk" - sweets! And appreciated with a white filling! A row of sweets with "white" was eaten with yellow and gray later than by experiment; laughing

        I, on the contrary, loved yellow))
  • Phil77
    Phil77 1 July 2020 07: 25 New
    +7
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you for your article! This series of memories is amazing! Cake * Bird's milk * was expensive for our family / 6 r.40 kopecks ./, and it was problematic to buy it. Mom bought either * Fairy Tale * or * for the holidays Leningradsky * for 2.60.
    Well, taking this opportunity, all the fans of CSKA with a victory in the derby! 2-0! To be honest, I did not expect it!
    Sorry, that is not the topic! hi
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 08: 31 New
      +5
      I have Mother, often baked two cakes "Carrot" and "Napoleon". To the latter, I am still not indifferent. My girls are still trying to pass the shelves in the stores. With the last one, “quickly”, so that I don't “put my eyes on”! Take care of my health !!! laughing
  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 1 July 2020 07: 27 New
    +8
    Beer Bar "Barrel". Built in Penza in 1973

    In Novorossiysk in 1971 they built their own "Barrel". Beer was brought there from an old brewery on the Balka in large oak barrels and there were tasty little drying bagels strewn with salt.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: LIONnvrsk
      In Novorossiysk in 1971 they built their own "Barrel". Beer was brought there from an old brewery on the Balka in large oak barrels and there were tasty little drying bagels strewn with salt.

      Four years earlier, in St. Petersburg, on the corner of Nevsky and Liteiny, there was a beer from the Stenki Razin factory, there were many bottled beer, Zhiguli, Barkhotnoye, Double Golden, Riga, Leningradsky, Moskovsky and And what else. And what a snack to beer, dried ram, smoked halibut, dried roach, smelt, and sticks with salt. Beauty to sit for four hours. Now you will not find this.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 08: 22 New
        +3
        You won’t find this now.
        Yes, any number!
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 08: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Yes, any number!

          You won’t find bottled beer without preservatives. wink
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 1 July 2020 08: 29 New
            +7
            I agree with this, but I rarely drink bottled. And then, why go to a pub and drink bottled beer there ??? recourse
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 08: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              And then, why go to a pub and drink bottled beer there ???

              So Vlad writes that there seemed to be no draft there.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 1 July 2020 08: 37 New
                +3
                I can not say the opposite, I did not find this institution in St. Petersburg.
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 53 New
                +3
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                So Vlad writes that there seemed to be no draft there.

                In the bar of the Stepan Razin and Vienna factories there is only a bottle, and in the bar of the Krasnaya Bavaria factory.
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 1 July 2020 11: 18 New
                  +7
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  In the bar of the Stepan Razin and Vienna factories there is only a bottle, and in the bar of the Krasnaya Bavaria factory.

                  70s Friendly court. The paper came from the police. Then the labor collectives had to react to this.
                  The essence of the matter. The guy bought a beer, carried home. I saw friends in the "glass", there is a draft, went to talk, uncorked the bottle. The beerman called the police. I still remember the phrase from the protocol: "... for drinking beer at the beer bar ... . "Summary. The administration withdrew KTU, the brigade added KTU, a friendly court acquitted.wink
                  PS It seems like the only case in the USSR. In the glorious city of Kuibyshev (Samara) there lived a Hero of Socialist Labor by profession a brewer.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 11: 25 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Was Mammoth
                    The beerman called the police. I still remember the phrase from the protocol: "... for drinking beer in the beer bar ...." The result. The administration removed KTU, the team added KTU, a friendly court acquitted.
                    PS It seems like the only case in the USSR. In the glorious city of Kuibyshev (Samara) there lived a Hero of Socialist Labor by profession a brewer.

                    This is for sure, such a decision of "comradely mob law," was probably the only one in the USSR.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 17: 44 New
                      +1
                      I think not the only one. Because with your peasants, from the brigade, "getting it" is always easier than with the local committee.
                  2. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 11: 51 New
                    +4
                    The administration removed KTU, the team added KTU,
                    I apologize, but did KTU not appear in 80gg?
                    1. edmed
                      edmed 1 July 2020 12: 27 New
                      +2
                      [quote = 3x3zsave] I apologize, but didn’t KTU appear in 80gg? [/ quot The invention of perestroika times, somewhere around 85-87g.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 12: 30 New
                        +4
                        That's it, the "struggle with egalitarianism" and all that ...
                    2. Was mammoth
                      Was mammoth 1 July 2020 19: 35 New
                      0
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      I apologize, but did KTU not appear in 80gg?

                      I have to apologize. You are right in the 80s. The brigade was formed in the 70s. Confused.
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      I think not the only one. Because with your peasants, from the brigade, "getting it" is always easier than with the local committee.

                      Everything happened. If a person is guilty, they themselves applied KTU. But, this is rare. Our team was friendly, so when, for example, someone went on vacation (few days of work) or his birthday set him the maximum CTU automatically. They worked together, rested, helped build, survive the grief .... Time is running out. Only two of 12 of us remained.
              3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 10: 54 New
                +1
                I was born a little later! So instead of draft beer, I found kvass in yellow-red barrels on wheels. On the oldest, the word beer was probably smeared with red paint, and on top it was written - Kvass! And there was always a fountain for washing mugs. If you do not lie: a small paper cost - 3 kopecks, normal - 6 kopecks, and a healthy liter mug -12 kopecks!
                In childhood there was a “pink dream” to try the soda “Sayan” and “Koi-soda”! Labels used to be hoarded and played on. So they knew what it was but didn’t swim to try. The store was selling lemonade “Pinocchio” and “Duchesse!” Later appeared "Baikal" and "Tarhun"! Pepsi tried in Gagra in 86! For me it was exotic !!!
                1. Lionnvrsk
                  Lionnvrsk 1 July 2020 16: 31 New
                  +3
                  Pepsi tried in Gagra in 86! For me it was exotic !!!

                  Why have they suffered so long? Pepsi began to produce at the Novorossiysk brewery back in 74th. Since the 75th, everywhere we have stood in stores for 40 kopecks. per bottle.
                2. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 1 July 2020 16: 46 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  and a healthy liter mug -12 kopecks!

                  Colleague, as I recall, the mugs were 0,5 liters

                  Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  small paper cost - 3 kopecks, normal - 6 kopecks

                  laughing Almost right, only a glass of 3 kopecks, and a mug of 0,5 -6 kopecks, and you talked about beer prices!
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 19: 00 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    and a healthy liter mug -12 kopecks!

                    Colleague, as I recall, the mugs were 0,5 liters

                    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    small paper cost - 3 kopecks, normal - 6 kopecks

                    laughing Almost right, only a glass of 3 kopecks, and a mug of 0,5 -6 kopecks, and you talked about beer prices!

                    Thank you for correcting wrote from memory !!!
                    1. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 1 July 2020 19: 21 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Thank you for correcting wrote from memory !!!

                      drinks Duc, let's count laughing
                      I remember in Sukhumi near the port, the very center, there was a wonderful cafe "gas-water-ice-cream", I can make a mistake in the name, but look what a charm

                  2. Was mammoth
                    Was mammoth 1 July 2020 19: 40 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    Colleague, as I recall, the mugs were 0,5 liters

                    There were small circles, 0,25l. wink
                    And there were still "American women", vending machines not with soda, but with vodka. wink But, it was me then that was little.
                    1. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 1 July 2020 19: 46 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Was Mammoth
                      There were small circles - 0,25l

                      Honestly, I don’t remember that in catering, although at home in the sideboard stood 0,25, but from crystal wink
                      1. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 1 July 2020 19: 51 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        but from crystal

                        Probably, someone became envious, minus sawed. wink
                        Corrected.
                      2. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 1 July 2020 20: 08 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Was Mammoth
                        Probably, someone became envious, minus sawed. wink
                        Corrected.

                        Thank you, Comrade! drinks Imagine being already envious of memories laughing
              4. garri-lin
                garri-lin 1 July 2020 19: 05 New
                +1
                There was a lemonade factory near the village. Tarragon, Pinocchio. A lot more. And including Pepsi Cola. Which is under license. In transparent pollitrovki.
          2. Liam
            Liam 1 July 2020 08: 35 New
            -10
            Soviet bottled beer was wandering because of unsanitary conditions in the factories and antediluvian equipment and not because of the presence / absence of preservatives
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 08: 42 New
              +6
              Quote: Liam
              Soviet bottled beer wandered due to unsanitary conditions

              Figs there. My friend worked in the 80s at the brewery, everything was fine there was with sanitation. That's it, I went to work.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 1 July 2020 09: 03 New
              +6
              Quote: Liam
              Soviet bottled beer was wandering because of unsanitary conditions in the factories and antediluvian equipment and not because of the presence / absence of preservatives

              This is someone who again deceived you in your ears, probably the Democrats. When I was studying in St. Petersburg, they sent us to the Stepan Razin factory for communist sub-workers. With sanitation, everything was much better than now, and the equipment was something that should have been made BEER, and not accelerated water for beer. They are still trying to denigrate what happened, and many still think that toilet paper was added to the sausage, and the paws and tails of rats were found in the finished sausage. At the end of the 70s I worked at a meat factory, it was cleaner than a good housewife in a galley.
            3. Undecim
              Undecim 1 July 2020 09: 07 New
              +3
              Again you write nonsense. Have you been to Soviet breweries?
              1. Liam
                Liam 1 July 2020 09: 23 New
                -8
                Quote: Undecim
                You again

                Do not scatter epithets. You personally were not present at 1% of events and places about which you write in different topics, but this does not prevent you from having a completely intelligible idea of ​​them. This time.
                Secondly, yes, I did. In bright student days, when the combined late lunch / early dinner in the form of a fresh loaf of bread and a bottle of milk / kefir seemed to me riding a culinary delight, I worked as a night watchman at the Chisinau brewery, if you are so interested. I have more than a clear idea of ​​what and how it was
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 1 July 2020 09: 30 New
                  +2
                  You personally were not present at 1% of events and places that you write about in different topics, but this does not prevent you from having a very clear idea of ​​them.
                  I think the percentage is still higher.
                  moonlighting as a night watchman at the Chisinau brewery
                  So you come from sunny Moldova? And in what years did you live in this wine-making republic?
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 1 July 2020 10: 03 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Undecim
                    So you come from sunny Moldova? And in what years did you live in this wine-making republic?

                    You unceremoniously breaks into my privacy) ... But so be it ... In sunny Moldova, I lived from the date of (my) birth until 2000 (from the Nativity of Christ, not mine)
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 10: 12 New
                      +2
                      I didn’t break in anywhere. You yourself have designated Chisinau Brewery. Chisinau, as you know, is located in Moldova. However, you delicately concealed whether you lived in the USSR at a conscious age, so to speak, and at what years. This is essential for this topic. But if this question is unbearable for your ego - I will not insist.
                    2. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 11: 08 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Undecim

                      I didn’t break in anywhere. You yourself have designated Chisinau Brewery. Chisinau, as you know, is located in Moldova

                      Exactly. I said it myself.

                      Quote: Undecim
                      However, you delicately concealed whether you lived in the USSR at a conscious age, so to speak, and at what years.

                      But this is an unceremonious intrusion). Do not turn the conversation into an interrogation. Moreover, you absolutely do not know how to conduct them. I’m telling you like a professional. Psychology and interpersonal relations in general are clearly not your sphere.
                      As for the topic of discussion, I well remember the assortment and quality of Soviet trade and public catering from the late 70s. So I found Brezhnev's "abundance" and coupons for sugar and more.
                      And I know the state of affairs in this area not only in Moldova. My father in those bright times was engaged in what was then customary to say, extracting unearned income and speculating.) In general, pears to the Baltic states, apples to Kursk and Bryansk, nuts to Gorky, and garlic in N. Tagil. And he didn’t take it to markets to state stores. On several trips, he took me with him and what and how to eat on the expanses of a powerful and indivisible. If a short-quiet horror unworthy of a developed country of the late 20th century
                    3. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 11: 21 New
                      +3
                      As for the topic of discussion, I remember well the assortment and quality of Soviet trade and public catering since the late 70s.
                      I’ve been from the beginning of the 60s. The difference is twenty years. This is essential for this topic.
                      And then, you mix two different issues - the Soviet public catering - this is a completely separate topic from today's.
                      I’m telling you as a professional. Psychology and generally interpersonal relations are clearly not your sphere.
                      There are doubts about your professionalism.
                    4. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 12: 10 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Undecim
                      I’ve been from the beginning of the 60s.

                      It is well known that the Khrushchev period, shelves were breaking in stores)
                      Let's not confuse childhood impressions, when a piece of bread sprinkled with sugar is a delicacy with an objective state of affairs.
                      Quote: Undecim
                      And then, you mix two different issues - the Soviet public catering - this is a completely separate topic from today's.

                      Come on. The Soviet catering is food in schools, pioneer camps, etc. So that's the point.
                      Quote: Undecim
                      Doubts arise

                      Carta canta)
                    5. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 13: 16 New
                      +4
                      Carta canta
                      There is an interesting continuation, but it will definitely be banned for it.
                      Discussion of the topic clearly shows how self-esteem is far from reality.
                      You are positioning yourself as an individual with a European mentality, but the only thing that appeared was to cross your past, you immediately turned into a classic post-Soviet Internet hamster, which in any mention of the USSR will find a reason for the holivar in which the Soviet Union appears or as the first part of the Divine Comedy, or as the third. The second is not given.
                      So your claims to Aquĭla non captat muscas are not yet substantiated.
                    6. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 13: 34 New
                      -5
                      Come on to you). This is for you the Union-sacred cow in which you lived the greatest and best part of your life. For me, this is a small stretch of childhood and youth (in which I ate much better than most unsubscribed in the top anyway). And then The union collapsed in a timely manner that would not prevent me from building my life as I liked and wanted. So, I can’t have any regrets / grievances and complexes about it a priori.
                      You again by. I say the same psychology is not yours)
                    7. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 14: 00 New
                      +2
                      You have confirmed my previous assumption that self-esteem is far from reality.
                      You will not find thoughtless praise of the USSR in any of my comments. In the USSR, I lived exactly half my life and the collapse of the USSR is not the boundary of qualitative changes in it. Unless in 20 years some things attracted me much more, and at the current age, refusal is not particularly upsetting, but this has nothing to do with the socio-political formation.
                      However, I am far from the thoughtless slander of the USSR, which is characteristic of a certain part of the population of Internet hamsters, in which even sunny Italy did not defeat sunny Moldova.
                      Remember Horace - aurea mediocrĭtas. And psychology is really not yours. Agree that Moldova was famous in the USSR not by psychologists.
                    8. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 14: 23 New
                      -1
                      ))) You are hung up on the Internet Khomyachkov. Calm down. You are exactly the same Internet hamsters and your fixation on +/- and (especially) geography, only confirms this.
                      But this is lyrics. And if on business and throwing aside empty sobs about denigrating, prove to me as Guests that fermented Soviet beer in bottles is a sign of "naturalness" of the product, and not a violation of technology
                    9. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 14: 30 New
                      +4
                      Try to figure out beer production technology yourself. Only knowledge that is obtained through painstaking labor is beneficial.
                      By the way, you confuse the natural curiosity of a naturalist and life experience with fixation.
                      Thanks for the discussion. See you under articles on ships and aircraft. There you are at the level.
                    10. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 17: 18 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Undecim
                      Thanks for the discussion.

                      With pleasure. I, in turn, if I have free time, I will share the correct interrogation methods. To ask questions is the surest way not to get answers. A person should tell everything himself, without any direct questions. As an example, compare your method of recognizing my age and my method of recognizing your I didn’t ask any questions, although I set a goal after your accusation of unprofessionalism.
                    11. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 17: 47 New
                      +2
                      Asking questions is the surest way to not get answers.
                      It depends on the circumstances. Sometimes it happens that you do not have time to ask a question, but the answer is ready. So it's too early for interrogation professionals.
                      And you could find out my age without difficulty, just by asking a question, I do not make any secret from this.
                    12. Liam
                      Liam 1 July 2020 18: 48 New
                      0
                      Quote: Undecim
                      So it's too early for interrogation professionals

                      I meant-Stupid questions. I thought I understood and did not write directly
                    13. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 July 2020 19: 08 New
                      0
                      Yes, I do not answer stupid questions, here you are right.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 11: 30 New
    +3
    Sorry, colleague, but no one bothers you to stop the dialogue that is unpleasant for you?
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 12: 12 New
    -1
    Who told you that the dialogue is unpleasant for me?)
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 12: 13 New
    +5
    I got the impression.
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 13: 29 New
    -2
    You’ve made a mistake. On the contrary, the discussion finally becomes lively and sharp. You also don’t want to read 100500 rounds of memories of incomparable condensed milk, fried potatoes and soda for two crocks due to a pristine, clear-assed glass. I hope anyway)
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 17: 34 New
    +4
    As you, I think, have already managed to notice, I am not a fan of the holivar, which you so persistently provoke now. What I want to read and discuss is a separate topic that has nothing to do with this article.
    Well, and finally, I’m really interested in the taste memories of people born and raised in the Union, because the country was huge, the supply was different, the age of all the participants in the discussion was different, someone is still sick from mamalyga, and someone from stewed saigachatins.
    And, yes, I’m really not interested in nostalgia for soda for 2 kopecks, because glasses from the vending machines were, as a rule, “drunk” by the local bohemian, “resting” on a nearby bench.
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 19: 29 New
    -1
    To be completely accurate, the so-called holivar was launched by Comrade Undechim, who instead of informatively refuting the topic of my post about beer (which was not even addressed to him by the way) turned to personalities -And who are you, where are you from, how old are you and you write nonsense do not dirty your bright memories of childhood and scripture in the form of GOST with your dirty hands. At the same time, quietly merging with the essence of the question. An intelligent and well-mannered person should understand that provoking a conversation in such a tone and with such assaults is not worth it. This is disrespectful to the interlocutor. But if a person by 60+ years old has not learned these elementary things, no state standards can correct him.
    As for the glasses from soda, this is still garbage. You had to see what kind of contingent was going around another common drink masterpiece barrel with draft beer.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 20: 04 New
    0
    Well, to be completely accurate, you initially planted the commentary in a provocative tone. WickNick, in his meticulousness, only reacted to some of them. I can phase out the escalation of today's holivar, but with all my loyalty and sympathy for you, you will find yourself the instigator of the conflict. And this is not because I respect the opinion of your opponent (although this is true, our disputes are far from finished), it’s just that you are often “put in” and you are building a conflict situation “out of the blue”.
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 20: 57 New
    0
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    You planted a commentary in a provocative tone

    What are these?
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 July 2020 21: 04 New
    +1
    Sorry, colleague, to be honest, I'm pretty tired today and if you are interested in criticism on my behalf, let's postpone it until tomorrow.
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 21: 12 New
    0
    Interesting of course. I just doubt that with a tireless look at my posts you will find special reasons to confirm your critical tirade. For all that, I did not allow myself the slightest attack on your subject, and who are you to criticize me, how old and whose will you be).
    Good evening hi
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 1 July 2020 20: 02 New
    0
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    And, yes, I’m really not interested in nostalgia for soda for 2 kopecks, because glasses from the vending machines were, as a rule, “drunk” by the local bohemian, “resting” on a nearby bench.

    Quote: Liam
    and soda for two krpeiks because of a pristine, clean, plump glass.

    Interestingly, the coronovirus did not walk. belay
    Just for the sake of justice. wink A glass of soda cost 1 kopeck, 3 kopecks, with syrup.
    At the grocery store next to the house, the granny “hunted”. Business is now called this. She had a branded faceted glass, which she gave away in exchange for a future empty bottle (12 kopecks. wink ) The glass was remarkable in that it was risked for two, for three, ....
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 1 July 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    Well, I have an aunt rabltala at the brewery, now it’s Alivaria, so what?
    I don’t drink beer since 1998, because shit ...
  • garri-lin
    garri-lin 1 July 2020 09: 44 New
    +2
    Even at 90, the shelf life of beer was 6 days. Father drank Zhigulevskoe. With a maaaalea label. The taste is not at all what it is now.
    1. BAI
      BAI 1 July 2020 13: 05 New
      +2
      Yes, but for more than 2 days it was not in the store.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 1 July 2020 19: 13 New
        0
        As far as I remember, it didn’t always get through to the evening. Carried away. And in the morning a fresh delivery. Milk every 2 days. Lemonade once every few days.
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 1 July 2020 10: 59 New
    +9
    Quote: Liam
    Soviet bottled beer was wandering because of unsanitary conditions in the factories and antediluvian equipment and not because of the presence / absence of preservatives

    M-dya !!! Finally, I found out that the beer had a shelf life of 7 days on the label due to unsanitary conditions. wink
    1. edmed
      edmed 1 July 2020 12: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Was Mammoth
      Finally, I found out that the beer had a shelf life of 7 days on the label due to unsanitary conditions.

      Yes! In a totalitarian "scoop" beer could be stored for 7 to 14 days, only because of unsanitary conditions, but in a "democratic" RF it can also be 1,5 g, though from what kind of "sawdust" is this so-called "beer" made, " there is a great mystery "
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 1 July 2020 12: 58 New
    +2
    Quote: Liam
    Soviet bottled beer was wandering because of unsanitary conditions in the factories and antediluvian equipment and not because of the presence / absence of preservatives

    Zhigulevskoe - beee laughing It was consumed with green peas and sprats in tomato sauce, as well as the main ingredient for Yosrsh cocktail
  • BAI
    BAI 1 July 2020 13: 04 New
    +3
    They will be jailed for unsanitary conditions if someone falls ill. It was strict with that. Here is a specific smell at the breweries really was. But I didn’t see a greater stench than at meat processing plants when the slaughter of cattle was going on. Now the technologies are different and there is no such horror when the blood flowed down a storm sewer into a nearby flowing river. A work colleague joked, "I have a blood garage built." The garage is next to this river, and when the solution was kneaded (in the days of the USSR it was all by hand) water (with blood) was dragged from this river.
  • Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 11: 35 New
    +2
    Anton welcome
    And then, why go to a pub and drink bottled beer there ???

    But in Munich, yeah, beer is what I like only in bottles from the factory laughing
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 11: 42 New
      +4
      Hello Edward!
      From the bottle I prefer the production of the Lviv "Perche Brovarni" (now, alas, "contraband goods").
  • Liam
    Liam 1 July 2020 08: 32 New
    0
    And what preservatives are there in beer?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 08: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Liam
      And what preservatives are there in beer?

      Well pasteurized, do not carp. Bottle beer in the USSR had an expiration date of several days.
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 July 2020 09: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Liam
      And what preservatives are there in beer?

      Read, only if I put everything that is applied, it will be an article with a listing, not a comment, drink beer to your health.
      But read this in the beginning. Enzymes are natural protein substances that catalyze specific biochemical reactions. They are found in all organisms: plant and animal, as well as microorganisms (mold, yeast, bacteria). Since ancient times, the source of enzymes for the production of alcohol was malt from cereal grains, primarily barley, oats and millet (or natural fungal cultures in the Far East).

      However, there has been a sharp change in the situation since the end of the 60s - gradually industrial enzyme preparations replace malt in many distilleries. Now the vast majority of distilleries around the world use industrial enzymes. *** Kaya **** is the world's leading producer of enzymes for many industries.
      For example, instead of 100 kg of malt, about 1 liter of enzyme preparations is used. Therefore, they are convenient in operation and storage.

      Preservatives for long-term storage: carbon dioxide (E 290), sorbic acid and potassium sorbate, nisin (E 234), benzoate, ascorbic acid, sulfur dioxide.

      Vicant antioxidants are also used. It consists of 2 main antioxidants: (E223) Na2S2O5 sodium metabisulfite (pyrosulfite) is harmful when ingested, emits toxic gas in contact with acids, and there is a risk of serious damage to the eyes.
      (Е-316) Sodium Erythorbate Isoascorbate Sodium (no known damage to the body).
      Antioxin SB is an antioxidant stabilizer. E-224 (E-224) Potassium pyrosulfite. Hazardous to health. Potassium pyrosulfite (E-224) - a food preservative supplement, antioxidant. In the food industry, potassium pyrosulfite is used in the production of wines (processing of grape pulp with potassium pyrosulfate) and in brewing. K2S2O5, colorless plate crystals. Soluble in water. Component of acidic photographic fixer, antioxidant, antiseptic. Used for dyeing fabrics.
      Instead of hops, its chemical substitutes are used, synthetic acids similar in composition to hop a-acids and giving bitterness identical to natural, as well as hop flavors.
      Dyes are used: caramel color, the same burnt sugar, instead of caramel malt.
      Flavors: "El" QL-14510, "Wheat beer" QL-14527, Porter.
    3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 11: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: Liam
      And what preservatives are there in beer?

      Lime! Are you tired of pulling an owl on the globe?
      If you want to check! Take a look at Orsk, where they still make Zhiguli beer at the bakery according to old recipes! When they took last year, the seller directly warned "guys need a drink in a week" !!! Mmmm. It under the Irriklinsky crucian carp did not even wait until morning !!! Fortunately, the car was properly equipped !!!
      And I write this, I’ve never been a beerman !!!
      1. chenia
        chenia 1 July 2020 14: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        And I write this, I’ve never been a beerman !!!


        I am not a beerman either, but according to my feelings beer is better now. Here are other products. somehow worse, although more diversity.
      2. Liam
        Liam 1 July 2020 16: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: Liam
        And what preservatives are there in beer?

        Lime! Are you tired of pulling an owl on the globe?
        If you want to check! Take a look at Orsk, where they still make Zhiguli beer at the bakery according to old recipes! When they took it last year, the seller directly warned “guys need a drink in a week” !!!

        Yeah. Zhivoe beer. This "liveliness" is an absolutely brilliant marketing tool for sniffy spill shops suffering from unsanitary conditions. Indeed, it is precisely because of unsanitary conditions and violation of storage conditions that beer purchased at the Pivasik Ot Kolyan eatery deteriorates after a couple of days, or even after a few hours. There are simply no other signs of “live” beer.
        Under appropriate storage conditions, the lager calmly costs 2-3 months, in ales with fermentation in a bottle, the shelf life is theoretically generally endless, the taste will only change (and not for the worse)
        .
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        It under the Irriklinsky crucian carp did not even wait until morning !!!

        The fish completely interrupts the taste of beer and is suitable only for that beer, where there is nothing to interrupt, that is, tasteless. About all sorts of trash like pistachios, chips, crackers and other things, I think you can tactfully keep silent.
        The purpose of a beer snack is not to help push a 5-liter canister into yourself, but to harmoniously complement the taste. Therefore, each beer style has its own appetizer, and most often its taste should be dim
        .
      3. Liam
        Liam 1 July 2020 16: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        And I write this, I’ve never been a beerman !!!

        It can be seen
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 19: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Liam
          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          And I write this, I’ve never been a beerman !!!

          It can be seen

          Lime, the funniest thing, I'm proud to be indifferent to beer and strong drinks laughing I prefer dry wines.
          It was on the occasion that I mentioned that there were 8 snouts in our compartment! Of these, 3 are “professional” beer lovers. The appetizer was far from chips, but from dried meat to smoked fish! So we enjoyed both beer and food, although more from communication !!! The impression of the drink left a truly positive! Professionals were also delighted. In this connection, I shared with the members of the forum !!!
          1. Liam
            Liam 1 July 2020 21: 37 New
            0
            I’m tired of understanding you honestly. You say yourself that you don’t understand beer, what it is and what it is eaten with, say that you don’t know. However, write a meaningless post in my address with elements of geography and ornithology. Try to be more distinct next time
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Yes, any number!

    You will not find this, now everything is under the “Pilsner” powder, and they have pushed preservatives. Beer should be stored no more than three sutos, this is beer. Well, what kind of beer can be in the "Faustpatrons", i.e. in 2 liter plastic bottles. And what kind of draft beer was made from oak barrels, you want to drink and drink.
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 1 July 2020 19: 23 New
      0
      Ossetians, Chuvashs and a number of nationalists brew beer at home. This is their traditional drink. Like kvass on bread. Or moonshine. Or wine. And such beer is stored for more than a couple of days. If tightly closed and cooled. A week or 10 days are precisely stored. No harm to taste. But chemistry is not there. Ossetian drink had. Divine drink.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 10: 11 New
        0
        Quote: garri-lin
        Ossetians, Chuvashs and a number of nationalists brew beer at home. This is their traditional drink.

        In Estonia and Latvia they brewed all the time, and now they brew their beer from "maltose".
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 2 July 2020 10: 16 New
          0
          I don’t know about the Baltic states. I did not come across. And Ossetian would like to drink every day. So delicious.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 1 July 2020 07: 30 New
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    As I already wrote, “food in the USSR” depended on several factors. The first is the place of residence.
    Each locality of the USSR belonged to one of four “supply categories”: special, first, second and third.
    Therefore, the "food" of the residents of the "Heart of our Motherland", "Cradle of the Revolution" or some kind of "closed administrative formation" and the food of the residents of Musokhransk and Khatsapetovka are two big differences.
    Accordingly, a resident of Penza might have liked “our compotes”, and a resident of some Oktyabrsky farm did not suspect the existence of compotes in banks, and often - until the end of his life.
    The second very serious factor is the individual's place on the social ladder. The food of the ordinary Soviet consumer, who bought in the system of Soviet trade and the food of the party functionary, who bought in the special distributor, also had a big difference.
    Well, the connection, "blat". It was possible to "get" everything, it was only necessary to have the corresponding "connections". Therefore, the contents of the refrigerator of the ordinary seller of the meat department and the foremost steelworker also varied greatly, and not in favor of the latter.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 1 July 2020 08: 40 New
      +6
      Some sort of "people's avenger" is minus. Probably yearning for the special distributor.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 08: 52 New
        +3
        "Krasnoyarsk" appeared.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 11: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Undecim
          Some sort of "people's avenger" is minus. Probably yearning for the special distributor.

          Blat !!! The most popular word of the late 80s! Books, shampoos, walls, TVs, everything were bought by pull! My daughter wore vests and children's costumes from Poland and Czechoslovakia of the 80s! To my mother’s question, “Why was it all worth buying when I was 10-12 years old! She answered me, according to the doom !!! Her shampoo collections we enjoyed the whole family all 90s and early 00s. I’ll just keep silent about books !!! To buy a subscription !!! It was necessary to defend the turn to hand over waste paper! Then get up at 4 o’clock in the morning to take a turn in a bookstore with a ticket for waste paper !!! And by blat you knew that yesterday they brought subscription editions !!! And you competed with the same "blatniks" !!!
          Most of all I was killed by city shops with cash registers! Instead, go and buy! You will not get anything from me! You go weigh the sausage. Then you pay with a coupon and get a check. And then you pick up the goods. And all this is not just like that, every time you defend the line. good more precisely three lines !!!
          Today you remember all this with a smile, and then !!! laughing
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 1 July 2020 11: 24 New
            +4
            Blat !!! The most popular word of the late 80s!
            I think the most popular word at that time was "coupons"
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 12: 37 New
              +4
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Blat !!! The most popular word of the late 80s!
              I think the most popular word at that time was "coupons"

              No Anton - the blat was before the coupons! Coupons appeared with restructuring !!! Blat was much worse !!! laughing
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 1 July 2020 12: 40 New
                +1
                Well, it was about
                late 80s! ??
          2. Edward Vashchenko
            Edward Vashchenko 1 July 2020 11: 36 New
            +2
            Blat !!! The most popular word of the late 80s! Books, shampoos, walls, TVs, everything were bought by pull!

            Blat ruined everything ... I exaggerate of course, but this was everywhere
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 12: 38 New
              +3
              If purely tough, then probably yes, more than no !!!
  • Free wind
    Free wind 1 July 2020 07: 35 New
    +2
    I wonder what could be poisoned regularly, as even products capable of this do not even come to mind. Moreover, the quality was monitored. There was such a mortar, they did nothing with it, but they cleaned it regularly. There’s a story with her. I am about 4 years old, the first frost on the street, I had the urge to take a walk. Grandfather warns, look, do not lick the ax, otherwise you’ll stick, and it wouldn’t even occur to me to lick the axes, why did he say that? I, as an obedient but inquisitive boy, licked a mortar ...... There were a lot of convenience foods, the same packs of flour, a lot of flour convenience foods, pancake flour, pancakes, muffins, and potato cake, it seemed the same. There was ice fish that cats took, well, by region, it cost a penny, now under 1500 per kg, it was caught in the distant southern icy seas, but why was it worth a penny ?. Kittyatina was a stew, did not try. Yes, many seasonal products were stored, let's say apples are varieties, but the apple bit off, after half an hour it turns brown, now I have the stump lying around since May 1. he still looks fresh. The chickens were bluish, we just had an egg direction to feed people faster. Fresh was the American egg powder, cheap and nutritious. Just the chicken had to be scorched and all the rules. Etc.
    1. Liam
      Liam 1 July 2020 07: 38 New
      -7
      Quote: Free Wind
      the apple bit off, after half an hour it becomes brown, now I have a stub lying around since May 1. he still looks fresh.

      In addition to irrepressible imagination, you have big sanitary problems in the apartment
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 12: 52 New
      +3
      Grandpa warns, look do not lick the ax, otherwise you’ll stick,

      I licked the iron gate at -30 !!! Mother told the commotion was !!!!!!!!!!
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 1 July 2020 13: 09 New
        +1
        I'm sorry. wink
    3. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 14: 59 New
      +3
      but the apple bit off, after half an hour it turns brown,

      Strongly depends on the variety, Antonovka and now also like that. It seems to be high in iron.
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  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 07: 55 New
    +2
    I like to go to cafes, eat ice cream and drink it with sparkling water. From her stabs in the nose and tears come out in her eyes.
    When I was a cadet, I also went to an ice cream parlor on Nevsky, took three balls of ice cream and a siphon with soda, Kaif! And after practice, ice cream remained too, and soda was replaced with champagne, then it cost 2 rubles .87 kopecks. But already there was no buzz.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 1 July 2020 08: 02 New
    +3
    Cake "potato" we had a treat. But in stores rarely happened. Because they themselves tried to do it. It turned out, to be honest, not very
    . smile
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 July 2020 08: 44 New
    +1
    I know from my grandfather that they pushed sugar in it, which they bought with their “heads” (cones!), Smashed it with a hammer, wrapped it in a cloth, and chopped small pieces from the sugar bowl with special tweezers (I saw them in childhood - just a find for the executioner!) pieces.
    It was sugar in large pieces, with a fist. Grandfather will break with a hammer, and we guys, already pricked with tweezers (there are no such) into small pieces, and waited for the cop to not boil the cop. Then the whole family and neighbors proceeded to the tea drinking ritual. And the tea is Chinese loose tea, tasty not described.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 1 July 2020 08: 51 New
    +6
    Yes, Vyacheslav Olegovich, I have preserved the same rare mortar, pre-war, and the same little book of the 1953 edition, with Stalin’s dedication, the next editions will already be without it ...


    As I got older, I was surprised to find that the Stalinist phrase was spoken almost 20 years before the publication of the book - at the First All-Union Meeting of the Stakhanovites on November 17, 1935.
    I will allow myself here a lengthy quote, as a material for reflection, and I will single out the text of initiation in it.
    The basis of the Stakhanov movement was primarily a radical improvement in the material conditions of the workers. Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun. And when it’s fun, the work is argued. Hence the high production rates. Hence the heroes and heroines of labor. This is primarily the root of the Stakhanov movement. If we had a crisis, if we had unemployment - the scourge of the working class, if we had a bad, ugly, sad life, then we would not have any Stakhanov movement. Our proletarian revolution is the only revolution in the world that has been able to show the people not only their political results, but also material results. Of all the workers' revolutions, we know only one that has somehow gained power. This is the Paris Commune. But it did not exist for long. True, she tried to break the shackles of capitalism, but she did not have time to break them and, moreover, did not manage to show the people the good material results of the revolution. Our revolution is the only one that not only broke the shackles of capitalism and gave people freedom, but also managed to give the people material conditions for a prosperous life. This is the strength and invincibility of our revolution. Of course, it is good to drive out the capitalists, to drive out the landowners, to drive out the tsar's guardsmen, to take power and gain freedom. It is very good. But, unfortunately, freedom alone is far from enough. If there is not enough bread, not enough butter and fats, not enough manufactory, and the dwellings are bad, then you cannot go far on freedom alone. It is very difficult, comrades, to live by freedom alone. In order to be able to live well and have fun, it is necessary that the benefits of political freedom be supplemented by material benefits. A characteristic feature of our revolution is that it gave the people not only freedom, but also material wealth, but also the possibility of a prosperous and cultural life. That is why life has become fun with us, and this is the basis on which the Stakhanov movement grew.


    As for the food assortment, it varied greatly in the republics from city to city.
    In the 70s I had to wander around on business trips - there were many trips around the country. Even then, I was struck by the empty shelves of the shops of Gomel and Lviv, Frunze and Ashgabat ... No, something, of course, lay there, it was not yet a complete paragraph of 88-89, but before the capital's abundance it was like before the Moon.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 1 July 2020 10: 05 New
      +2
      By the way, this book is mainly for cooks of dining rooms and restaurants. Large amounts of cooking, there is a photo of table setting for 10-20 people. Methods for cutting and cooking game from quail to bear are described. How to cook domestic cattle. I remember the ways of making wines and tinctures were. I just don’t remember the product tab was in parts or kg.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 1 July 2020 10: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Free Wind
        By the way, this book is mainly for cooks of dining rooms and restaurants. Large amounts of cooking, there is a photo of table setting for 10-20 people. Methods for cutting and cooking game from quail to bear are described. How to cook domestic cattle. I remember the ways of making wines and tinctures were. I just don’t remember the product tab was in parts or kg.

        Apparently, you were mistaken. This book is for domestic use. Volumes are normal for a family of 3-4 people. There are such photos, but this is more likely for festive feasts. There is nothing about the bear, as well as the preparation of wines and tinctures. About game there is but not much. Bookmark in grams, glasses, tablespoons.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 1 July 2020 11: 48 New
          +2
          Yes . wrong, alas. it was a recipe for cooks, weight distribution in parts, all the same, only volumes more, and how many servings per person. There was also salting of mushrooms, volumes in barrels. Wines made from gooseberries and local apples. Now I’ve looked through a publication about a delicious and healthy 52 year old, about beer there, an expiration date of 7 days from the date of bottling.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 1 July 2020 10: 20 New
      +5
      "it is very different in the republics from city to city" is true. I remember the riddle: "long green and smells like sausage" about the Moscow train
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 1 July 2020 14: 26 New
      -2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      I will allow myself here a lengthy quotation, as a material for reflection and I will highlight the text of the dedication in it.


      What is there to ponder?
      it’s a parallel fantasy world, has nothing to do with the existing real world
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 1 July 2020 15: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        What is there to ponder?
        it’s a parallel fantasy world, has nothing to do with the existing real world

        Something you agree to the fact that in the USSR there was no cultural and prosperous life!
        You will immediately be recorded in Russophobia, and you know!

        By the way, once, as a joke, I asked our teacher at the Department of Scientific Communism why Karl Genrikhovich did not come from London to Paris in 1871 to personally participate in the realization of his own ideas in the ranks of Parisian communards. He, quite seriously answered me, that Marx was trying to explain to the future Communards that
        ... the working class cannot simply take possession of the finished state machine and use it for its own purposes.
        that this is not a simple, very painstaking work, but they did not want to listen to him. He sent me to the work of Marx, “Civil War in France,” which later became one of the main policy documents of Marxism.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 1 July 2020 15: 19 New
          -5
          Quote: A. Privalov
          in the USSR there was no cultural and prosperous life!

          Life, thank God, was, but not quotational. and the real one: 1952, a letter from engineer K. A. Peters was received in the name of Stalin:
          . State trade in oil, fats, meat and meat products, sugar, vegetables, cereals, pasta and dairy products completely stoppedhaving ceded its functions to private trade at speculative prices ... under the brand name of “collective farm” trade in “collective farm” markets ... State and cooperative food shops selling food they don’t produce: there is no meat, fat, sausages, cereals, canned meat, etc., etc., - in a word - there is nothing. Empty shelves and counters of meat and gastronomic departments of these stores are decorated with vodka and wine bottles for decoration. Department stores mainly serve the population through resellers. Production workers, engineering and technical workers and workers at industrial centers eke out a sad, half-starved existence. ”

          From this “there is nothing”, “The Book of ...” suggested creating ... culinary delights
  • Yurahip
    Yurahip 1 July 2020 08: 52 New
    -2
    Wow, what kind of memory does the author have fried scrambled eggs in the fifth grade, but the number does not remember?
    1. Million
      Million 1 July 2020 09: 17 New
      +5
      Children's memory is very tenacious. It is in adulthood you do not remember what you did the day before ..
  • Million
    Million 1 July 2020 09: 03 New
    +3
    And Putin’s spine sells all kinds of semi-edible surrogate in chain stores that have flooded the whole country
  • avia12005
    avia12005 1 July 2020 09: 27 New
    +4
    To the question of the quality of Soviet products. My classmate graduated from the corresponding technical school and worked as an overproduction in a cafe. During the next check, she found a mismatch in the recipes in the dishes, and in the products they found E. coli and something else. Plus food theft. The result - I got 12 years with a small daughter and a runaway husband. So there you go.
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 1 July 2020 17: 13 New
      0
      Probably 12 years for theft. And here is the quality of Soviet products?
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 1 July 2020 10: 11 New
    +4
    "mastered a pretty decent set of dishes" Vyacheslav Olegovich, I envy your wife: there’s not much joy to cook for the whole family, and you can always replace it in the kitchen.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 1 July 2020 12: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Astra wild
      You can always replace it in the kitchen.

      In men, this is always associated with some ... inspiration! bully
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 July 2020 12: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Phil77
        Quote: Astra wild
        You can always replace it in the kitchen.

        In men, this is always associated with some ... inspiration! bully

        Or when he backs up !!! laughing
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 1 July 2020 14: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Or when he backs up !!!

          Right! You’re right! And today I’m at work, so I break out, sometimes. bully
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 1 July 2020 10: 38 New
    +1
    “I really liked the rum grandmothers,” but as a child I didn’t have a chance to try, my mother said, “children should not drink alcohol.” When she got married, she broke the chain: I wanted to try different sorts of wine, and then I got tired. Now sometimes I buy: Crimean Madeira or German: “Anna”
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 1 July 2020 12: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Astra wild
      how it got off the chain: I wanted to try different sorts of wine

      A phrase from a joke!
      * -Hell, damn it! One got caught with liquor! *
      laughing
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 1 July 2020 11: 15 New
    +5
    eat sandwiches with boiled pork for the night

    In fact, boiled pork was much more expensive than any sausage, so the author’s childhood was quite prosperous.
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 1 July 2020 17: 16 New
      +2
      His street mates seem to have one too. 330 r salary - this is more than very decent by Soviet standards.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 1 July 2020 12: 25 New
    +1
    I found such a frame at myself. Not my picture. I don’t even know where I got it from. Around 78-80. You see, there are no air conditioners yet. I wonder how they took it off? I remember that there was only a private sector around, and before the appearance of household quadrocopters, there were still 40 years left.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 July 2020 13: 05 New
      +2
      Perhaps with aerial platforms?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 1 July 2020 13: 08 New
        0
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Perhaps with aerial platforms?

        Quite possible. For advertising, or what? Although, what the hell, advertising in those days, and even b / w ...
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 1 July 2020 13: 27 New
      0
      Well, if you exclude the version about the missed paratrooper. Yes, most likely aerial platform truck, or a truck crane with a cradle. The ring at the top was probably installed by a crane. Maybe they’ve installed, moved and took a picture. Look at the local periodicals, maybe there is a report on the opening, although it is unlikely.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 1 July 2020 13: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Free Wind
        See local periodicals

        Thanks for the good advice, but my curiosity does not extend so far. hi
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 1 July 2020 16: 42 New
          +1
          By the way, maybe Shpakovsky will be interested in the history of this photo.
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 July 2020 16: 45 New
        +1
        truck mounted crane
        It is strictly forbidden by TB.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 2 July 2020 07: 29 New
          0
          Such cradles were even produced. Cranes and clamshell buckets were hung on cars, and draglines hung. And it was not very pleasant to climb the car towers, the hydraulics were not a fountain.
  • BAI
    BAI 1 July 2020 12: 30 New
    +1
    Truffles were delicious

    In my opinion, the best truffles were in the Kuibyshev box.
    And the Golden Cockerel vodka quality has now fallen below the plinth.
  • Revival
    Revival 1 July 2020 13: 32 New
    +1
    Thank you, interesting article.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 1 July 2020 14: 12 New
    +1
    I went to first grade. By this time, both grandfather and grandmother had been retired for two years, and various ailments attacked them. And it often turned out that my mother was in Moscow, my grandmother was in the hospital, and I needed to feed myself and my grandfather.

    There’s some kind of mistake — I don’t think that a seven-year-old boy fed a 62-year-old man
    Well, mom and I drank this bottle for two

    As with everyone, everything is different: to drink with our parents, for example, was impossible in principle, because it was considered indecent.
    that they threw their stoves and kerosene to hell, while in the old house we continued to cook in the summer at kerogas until 1976

    Strange, since the 1960s, gas stoves were widely used in cities from cylinders in specials. metal. box on the street (still preserved in some places) ... Special vehicles transported them to their homes (racks with balloons that clung to hooks) ..

    Tuzik sweets is something: how many children’s adhering fillings were swallowed with them!
    Well, from the age of 7, I was poured a glass of port.

    Surprisingly, at that age in those days, this could not have been imagined ...
    Especially with glasses (albeit a little older ...
    Here she is: our family brass mortar, and she is really very old

    There is one that stands as a family exhibit, along with a cast-iron iron on coals
  • Old26
    Old26 1 July 2020 15: 19 New
    +9
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich for the next article. Again forced to return to childhood and ... And this shows your sadistic inclinations laughing
    And as a colleague wrote correctly Undecim "food in the USSR" depended on several factors. The first is the place of residence. What was completely natural in one place was not available in another. So you mentioned cauliflower. In Stavropol, it was, let's say, in bulk. Grandma cooked it at least twice a week.
    The same thing with compotes. But to be honest - I don’t remember the compotes in the store. But when he lived in Ukraine, in the Poltava region, in the neighboring town, in Piryatin (the town where the film “Queen of the gas station” was shot), was
    canning factory. And there they released a very specific product (in a half-liter jar). It was called "Apples and Peppers." There are a couple of apples and a pod of red pepper in the jar. When they got older - there was a world zakuson ...
    Moreover, it all depends on the time. In the 60s it was one thing, in the first half of the 70s another, in the second half of the 70s or in the 80s - the third.
    In the 60s, in the same Stavropol there was a fairly good selection of sausages, there were shops that sold rabbits and game, which became much less in the 70s.
    In Novocherkassk in the early 70s, one could buy several varieties of sausages in the store: Doktorskaya, Lyubitelskaya, minced ham sausage, ham, Krakovskaya EMNIP (not a loaf, but a “wheel”), whale sausage, liverwurst, and "Offal" practically not bought for food. But after 10 years, such an abundance was no longer there. Instead of amateur - "Estonian",
    They began to take offal for food already.

    The same goes for cheeses. Indeed, cheeses in the 60s were taken only on the holiday table (Russian or Dutch). But they were always in the store. As I said in the previous topic, I lived for some time (until the mid-60s) in Stavropol. Cheeses like Brynza, less Suluguni and other soft cheeses were more popular there. These cheeses were often taken and not only on the festive table ...

    Quote: tihonmarine
    And Bulgarian canned vegetables, salted and pickled tomatoes and cucumbers, lecho, tomato sauce, different juices in bottles, and of course the wonderful "Bulgarian Muscatel".

    A store was opened in Stavropol in the late 60s, which had the name of the twin city of Stavropol in Bulgaria - the city of Pazardzhik. There really were departments in this store where they sold such canned Bulgarian products. But also the wine: “Zlata Pyassy”, “Sunny Beach”, “Pliska” cognac in a wicker bottle ...

    Quote: Liam
    Quote: LIONnvrsk
    juicy Doctoral gram of commercials 150. Yummy.

    Which after a couple of hours in the refrigerator was covered with a crust of amazing greenish color

    What year did you observe? As far as I remember from childhood, my mother (or grandmother) prepared for the holiday table in advance. And since one of the obligatory dishes was Olivier, its components were taken in advance. In about a week or 10 days. And I don’t remember that on the same “Doctor’s” a “marvelous greenish crust” appeared in the 60s and 80s in a few hours ...

    Quote: Was Mammoth
    I still remember the phrase from the protocol: "... for drinking beer in the beer bar ...." The result. The administration removed KTU, the team added KTU, a friendly court acquitted. Wink
    PS It seems like the only case in the USSR. In the glorious city of Kuibyshev (Samara) there lived a Hero of Socialist Labor by profession a brewer.

    In Novocherkassk, until the mid-80s, a brewer with almost pre-revolutionary experience worked at the brewery. Sometimes beer came to Novocherkassk from neighboring cities and villages ...
    Yet again. In different cities and at different times, beer was of very different quality.
    The bottle could stand for about a week, then a precipitate gradually appeared. Draft - it was also different. In the same Novocherkassk in the 70s - 80s, the beer was excellent. In the late 80s, already in Stavropol, they preferred to take Ipatovskoye beer from the Ipatovsk brewery rather than the local Zhigulevskoye beer. But in the 90s, the quality became much better.
    A couple of years ago, a workshop was opened in the village near the city. They produce beer according to German and Czech recipes. The quality is excellent. In the city they have 2-3 pubs. You can either drink on the spot or take home

    Quote: Liam
    Come on. The Soviet catering is food in schools, pioneer camps, etc. So that's the point.

    But first of all, it’s the canteen ...

    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Quote: Undecim
    Some sort of "people's avenger" is minus. Probably yearning for the special distributor.

    Blat !!! The most popular word of the late 80s! Books, shampoos, walls, TVs, everything were bought by pull! My daughter wore vests and children's costumes from Poland and Czechoslovakia of the 80s! To my mother’s question, “Why was it all worth buying when I was 10-12 years old! She answered me, according to the doom !!! Her shampoo collections we enjoyed the whole family all 90s and early 00s. I’ll just keep silent about books !!! To buy a subscription !!! It was necessary to defend the turn to hand over waste paper! Then get up at 4 o’clock in the morning to take a turn in a bookstore with a ticket for waste paper !!! And by blat you knew that yesterday they brought subscription editions !!! And you competed with the same "blatniks" !!!
    Most of all I was killed by city shops with cash registers! Instead, go and buy! You will not get anything from me! You go weigh the sausage. Then you pay with a coupon and get a check. And then you pick up the goods. And all this is not just like that, every time you defend the line. good more precisely three lines !!!
    Today you remember all this with a smile, and then !!! laughing

    It was popular in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. At school, my mother “by pulling” through a friend got me Czech (EMNIP) tracksuits for physical training at school. Bohemian glass ("Royal Modeling") - also by pull. This is what I remember ...

    Quote: Attack aircraft
    PS I won’t be able to eat smoked sausage (dear) for a month .. Rubber with pah pancake

    Do it yourself. My friend has been doing it for 15-20 years. He buys guts in a butcher's shop, lard, meat, cuts finely, adds salt, pepper, garlic to taste, pushes into the guts, bandages with a thread, boils, and then into frozen. When necessary - cuts off the desired piece and into the pan.
    Or the second option. Take sausages from a trusted supplier ...

    Quote: A. Privalov
    Yes, Vyacheslav Olegovich, I have preserved the same rare mortar, pre-war, and the same little book of the 1953 edition, with Stalin’s dedication, the next editions will already be without it ...

    Mortar and I have survived. The truth is not so, with handles, but as in the picture. Ferrous metal. Very heavy. But the book was lost due to moving

    Quote: Astra wild
    "it is very different in the republics from city to city" is true. I remember the riddle: "long green and smells like sausage" about the Moscow train

    Not only Moscow trains. In Novocherkassk there was such a riddle: “What is it? Blue with a red stripe smells deliciously like sausage”
    Answer: The Silent Don train coming from Moscow
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 19: 21 New
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      cognac "Pliska" in a wicker bottle

      In wicker bottles, not cognac was sold, but dry red wine "GMA", bottles of 1 liter and 3 liter. Three-liter cost 3 p. Cold in the summer, after passing the session, it went very well.
    2. garri-lin
      garri-lin 1 July 2020 19: 41 New
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      You called the sausage Offal. This Livernoy is so baptized. Or was it called that? And then I never came across.
  • Tests
    Tests 1 July 2020 15: 48 New
    +6
    He called on everyone many times, commenting on materials about Soviet and post-Soviet life: “Guys, let's live together! Consider history as in the USSR - for five years. (1941, slightly different from 1945, 1956 from 1961, 1975 from 1980, 1990 from 1995, and 1995 from 2000, agree?) And be sure to consider that in one year on the vast expanses of our Motherland, life in the village was not like life in the regional center, life in the regional center was different from life in the capital of the Union Republic, and Moscow and Leningrad ... And even in the same city, the workers of the metallurgical or defense industry lived a little better than the consumer goods manufacturing plant, agree? " ... The author wrote about HIS childhood in Penza, why I do not understand what he should try to convict him of distorting the facts ...
    I was lucky, my happy Soviet childhood fell on the 60-70 years of the last century in Severodvinsk, and my parents worked on SEVMASH. And although the city belonged to the 3rd price zone - there were always yummies in the city. And the supply at the level, especially in the 70s, the city was closed, and its bakery, meat factory, dairy, food factory, and not a bad public catering both in the city and at Zvyozdochka, where I worked in the early 80s. In the 60s, dad brought pine nuts and pine cones from business trips to Komsomolsk-on-Amur, it was cooler to me than red fish and caviar! In the village of Rikasikha between Severodvinsk and Arkhangelsk, a poultry farm was opened in the early 70s ... Plus relatives. The Zaostrovsky collective farm was alive, where my grandmother lived, later one of her father’s younger brothers and a younger sister, potatoes, vegetables, real meat, milk and bread from the bakery !. My mother’s brother lived in Sovetskaya Gavan - he brought both red fish and caviar. My mother’s sister and husband served in the GDR (I was just born), then in Kharkov and Konotop in Sumy Region (which apples and stewed rabbits were there, and borsch that my aunt cooked!), And then my uncle was sent to Petropalovsk-Kamchatsky to serve. We didn’t go there, but parcels with books and Japanese chewing gum from my aunt can be compared with what ?! Grandmother's younger brother lived in Moscow. They visited him on his way to the Crimea or the Caucasus, he loved Borodino bread - but I didn’t take it to the spirit, but the Moscow popsicle was a miracle ... And in the early 80s, when I worked at Zvyozdochka in the South Jagra on the order that on the water came from the seas, I received food stamps for working in the reactor zone. In the dining room on the South Yagra, in addition to a complex lunch, I always took 3 or 4 puffed triangular pies with apples, yummy .... The ticket was either 1 ruble 28 kopecks, or 1 ruble 32 kopecks, I don’t remember exactly, I need to dial were products, they didn’t give change. Milk and since the welder took on a ticket every day, and then there are pies ...
    1. Nikolai
      Nikolai 1 July 2020 21: 49 New
      +1
      My childhood in 1974, Severodvinsk ended. Beginning of November, naval semi-crew, barracks, mattresses and pillowcases stuffed with cork, prof. Commissions. Snow knee-deep, cold, wind, dusk. The city is gloomy, all around is naval symbolism, five-story buildings, depression. Half-carriage was fed like cattle before the case. Galley in huge army tents with a pair of metal stoves. Heat within a meter. Tea, like everything else, is frozen, dishes are dirty. I remembered mashed potatoes. Of potato chips, they were given every day - the color is gray, the smell and taste of used engine oil, the consistency of paste, the consequences are severe heartburn. I wanted to eat and because of boredom we were eager to work on a city refrigerator - yes, there was everything. Unloading cars with canned goods, butter, beef carcasses. Someone managed to steal a jar of fish, and there they quietly pressed it. Why did the country - the motherland so face us of the young and best sons? And I'm glad for you.
  • Alexy
    Alexy 1 July 2020 16: 11 New
    +2
    The author is strong - a glass of Cahors in childhood.
  • Old26
    Old26 1 July 2020 16: 43 New
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    Quote: Alexy
    The author is strong - a glass of Cahors in childhood.

    Well, my parents somewhere at the age of 12 also taught a little. At the table, on holiday, a glass of sweet or dry wine. No more. It was believed that I'd rather drink at home under control than in the yard. Such control continued until grade 8, EMNIP. But in any case, they taught that "you can’t drink without a snack"
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 19: 24 New
      +2
      At the table, on holiday, a glass of sweet or dry wine. No more. It was believed that I'd rather drink at home under control than in the yard.

      Similarly
  • Alexy
    Alexy 1 July 2020 17: 30 New
    +3
    Partially found the USSR, partly from the stories of parents, grandparents, but made one conclusion:
    So far, people had little money - there was enough food and goods in stores. As soon as people began to earn more, and even put off many, so gradually everything began to disappear.
    I won’t argue about the quality of products. But abroad, at that time, the products were also better (I work with foreigners of different age groups). So this, unfortunately, is a global trend, and not the merit of the USSR.
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 1 July 2020 22: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexy
      Partially found the USSR, partly from the stories of parents, grandparents, but made one conclusion:
      So far, people had little money - there were enough food and goods in stores.

      Not quite right. While there was a Stalinist economy, focused on reducing the cost of production and planning its stock quantity, the money supply and the product mass were soaring. Once in the middle of 1960 carried out a Libermanian economic reform and oriented production to shaft and profit, began to plan production according to nomenclature. but in monetary terms. As a result, the money supply began to exceed the quantity of production, hence the deficit.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 1 July 2020 22: 31 New
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        Greetings, Alexander! It seems to me that the matter is still different. According to the stories, it turns out that refrigerators in people began to appear gradually from the end of the 50s. What about before that? There were some appliances, but they didn’t especially replace the real refrigerator. Did not buy a lot. Where to store?
        Although I met an old foundation with cold pantries occasionally ....
        It was a completely different life ...
        1. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 2 July 2020 01: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          refrigerators in people began to appear gradually from the end of the 50s. What about before that?

          In the villages and towns, there were cellars with a supply of winter ice, where it was possible to store food. those who didn’t have them were stored in nets behind the window in the winter, and in the summer they bought exactly perishable food as much as they could eat in one day, and bought the next day fresh. So sausage is regularly poisoned - these are the painful fantasies of our author.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 2 July 2020 03: 14 New
            +1
            thanks for the answer, Alexander! Honestly, I didn’t know such subtleties ...... I meant that people didn’t collect large quantities for the future, as now, when there were freezers and groceries in the store as much as they needed ..... and in the village ---- in the cellars they kept their products, stocks, I think, not store sausages.
            About the damage from negative I somehow missed the author, read diagonally, more comments are interesting to me. I learned from you lol wassat
            Likely, it was so ---- he showed symptoms by himself, and relatives explained so .......
        2. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 2 July 2020 09: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          There were some appliances, but they didn’t especially replace the real refrigerator. Did not buy much. Where to store?

          A refrigerator appeared in our house in 1961. I was going to 1st grade. However, in the kitchen, while we lived in a communal apartment, for another 4 years there was a hefty, about the size of a good desk, drawer upholstered in galvanized iron with a tight fitting lid. It had very thick walls with heat-insulating gaskets made of cork and shavings, half-rotten over the past years. Pieces of ice were laid in it in spring. They were bought from special carriers who transported ice on carts. They brought him into the house on the third floor. A tube led out of the drawer, from where water was dripping from the melted ice. Actually, there was not much storage space inside. Everything else was occupied by ice and thermal insulation. One refueling was enough from April to November. Then, they all kept outside the window in bags hanging on bags and specially made drawers on the balconies and under the windows.
          In 1970, I went to Leningrad to visit relatives. In their courtyard (the old housing stock) there was a kind of shed-like building with thick moldy walls and rusty doors. They explained to me that until the mid-60s there was a public ice storage facility. Residents collected some money and brought them sawn ice, from where everyone took home as needed. Something like that. hi
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 2 July 2020 12: 58 New
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            hi thanks, interesting! I heard about the house in the courtyard that there was a general laundry room at the house on Officer Lane in Leningrad. They somehow warmed water, washed it in large troughs ....... There, in communal apartments in the kitchens, there were large refrigerated cabinets under the windows in the wall. And there was a second closed staircase where it was cold. There were food storage there too and no one stole it. Grandfather bought a refrigerator in 1960. hi
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 2 July 2020 13: 24 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              hi thanks, interesting! I heard about the house in the courtyard that there was a general laundry room at the house on Officer Lane in Leningrad. They somehow warmed water, washed it in large troughs ....... There, in communal apartments in the kitchens, there were large refrigerated cabinets under the windows in the wall. And there was a second closed staircase where it was cold. There were food storage there too and no one stole it. Grandfather bought a refrigerator in 1960. hi

              Oh, home-based public laundries, this is the property of the 30s. Then it was very customary and very Soviet and ideologically correct to live a kind of commune. This was the humanly good part of socialism that idealists dreamed of in anticipation of the emergence of a new, conscious person - a true member of socialist society. Such laundries lasted until the war. After the war, it was no longer up to them, although in some places they were heard about them back in the 50s.

              The second staircase is the so-called "back door", it is already a relic of the difficult royal past. Only a servant walked along it, bringing food into the house, coal / firewood, taking out slops, etc. This is in contrast to the "ceremonial", where the hosts and others. "Clean" audience.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 2 July 2020 15: 06 New
                +1
                About the laundry. She was on the Officer Lane back in the 60s --- then they moved to a separate apartment, to Citizen. My mother and my uncle (her sibling) --- they are close to you by age. Many things are remembered. Yes, and grandmother left not so long ago --- 5 years ago. She told a lot of things. But I don’t remember grandfather. I regret it.
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 2 July 2020 15: 24 New
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                hi I remembered this. In the book of Ivan Dmitrievich Papanin, "Life on the Ice", it is described what products the first Soviet polar explorers had. Butter, caviar, shpig, loin, hunting sausages (!), Cream cheese, crackers, dry onions and garlic, soup, borsch and cutlet concentrates, meat and egg powder, natural chocolate, berry jelly, coffee, sweets with vitamin C , citric acid, spices, dried mushrooms, condensed milk, sweets, and on holidays --- cakes and cognac! In addition, they brought razors, chess, stationery and a small library with them for comfort! That's what.
                1. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 2 July 2020 15: 28 New
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                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  hi I remembered this. In the book of Ivan Dmitrievich Papanin, "Life on the Ice", it is described what products the first Soviet polar explorers had. Butter, caviar, shpig, loin, hunting sausages (!), Cream cheese, crackers, dry onions and garlic, soup, borsch and cutlet concentrates, meat and egg powder, natural chocolate, berry jelly, coffee, sweets with vitamin C , citric acid, spices, dried mushrooms, condensed milk, sweets, and on holidays --- cakes and cognac! In addition, they brought razors, chess, stationery and a small library with them for comfort! That's what.

                  Well, Papanin is well written here:
                  http://lib.ru/WELLER/mauzer.txt
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 2 July 2020 16: 00 New
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                    I don’t think that good would be written by Weller. After his words about Kaliningrad and the Far East.
                    1. A. Privalov
                      A. Privalov 2 July 2020 16: 22 New
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                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      I don’t think that good would be written by Weller. After his words about Kaliningrad and the Far East.

                      Do not listen to commentator Weller. Read the writer Weller. Written 30 years ago.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 08: 48 New
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      The fact is that Kosygin-Liberman reform was never carried out. Kosygin spoke very bitterly about this:
      "There was nothing left, everything collapsed. The reforms fell into the hands of people who do not want them at all. The people with whom I developed the materials have already been removed. And I’m waiting for nothing ..."
  • rruvim
    rruvim 1 July 2020 17: 34 New
    +6
    I’ll remember the period 1979-1982. I studied at school number 2 in Elektrostal and lived on Gorky Street in a four-story building built in 1933 on the ground floor, there was a bakery through the wall. The windows looked exactly at the factory entrance. My father woke me up at 8-30 when the Field Mail of Youth started on the radio and in the kitchen on the table there was a fresh "eclair" for me for 22 kopecks. from the neighboring “Bakery” and tea from the teapot. For some reason, my father called the eclairs "Jewish pies." Often there were no eclairs in the Bakery and my father bought a “basket” of jam and cream. But I did not like them, they crumbled in my hands, I had to lick them off my fingers. That was until almost the 82nd, until butter in eclairs and other cakes was replaced with margarine. Salty eclairs did not "send" me. After school, we peers usually spent time outdoors: in the winter, “snow slides”, in the summer, if not in the pioneer camp, fighting with swords (sticks) and homemade bows: the body required calories. A delicacy and a place of pilgrimage, we had a "Pharmacy" on the street. Gorky. Some bought hematogen for 11 kopecks, others, the most active, a bottle of ascorbic acid - balls for 24 kopecks, and I loved the white retinol palmitate dragee for 36 kopecks. Little white and sweet. Usually in an hour "persuaded" the whole vial.
    Now, in the former Pharmacy building, a committee of veterans of the Elektrostal plant.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 1 July 2020 17: 49 New
      +6
      In the summer of 80, my father took me to Dolzhanskaya village in Azov, to a camp site with houses. And on the spot, opening his "diplomat", he took out small triangles, similar to triangles with milk. There was cream. Then, I took out the Viola cheese (the packaging has not changed so far) and a few bottles of Pepsi. But me, kid, “the strawberry chewing gum in the“ Wait a minute! ”Records was more surprised, the packaging is more likely“ like in the West! ”Those were the gifts of the Olympics! fellow Anyway, in the morning, your favorite salad of Kuban tomatoes with onions, and natural, muddy, sunflower oil bought in the market in a strange bottle with a newspaper jam, but so fragrant! Fresh bulls and flounder bought right on the beach from the forever fishermen and fried in the same oil. And fruits, fruits, fruits !!! In the early 80s, they cost a penny in the Azov Sea markets.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 1 July 2020 18: 38 New
        +5
        I also remember very well how my mother cooked fish (stewed) with mashed carrots and onions. With boiled potatoes (not mashed potatoes!). A day later I went to the "Orsovsky" store for two or three carcasses "back of pollock" (56 kopecks / kg.) And cooked them for our cat. About ten years later (1991-92), he asked his mother: "What kind of fish did we eat then, when I gave all the pollock to a cat?" Answer: "Hake and cod!"
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 1 July 2020 20: 10 New
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          There was no hot water in our houses (built in 1931-35), but there was a public bathhouse on Gorky Street. Every Saturday, my father drove himself and me there. At first I resisted (we moved to Gorky in 1978 from the Khrushchev five-story building with a bath and hot water), but then I “got involved”. The most important thing was after: before receiving tin plate of outerwear in the locker room, my father and I were sitting steamed on a bench opposite the sideboard. My father bought himself a mug of 0.5 beer, I got 0.3 glass of lemonade and KORZHIK!!! It was the most delicious cake in the world! He usually posed as a fish or a camel. And it was hot! And no wonder! Stalin's architects are not only houses with bakeries. shops, pharmacies and bathhouses were built around the passage factories, but also bakeries! That the worker after shift could always buy hot bread. And the markets! The bakery was next to the bathhouse. Then there was a market, civilized, with awnings. When it didn’t work, we guys climbed under the racks and sometimes found coins: a piglet, a desoon, a tag ...
          If you approach the bakery and cry (jokingly), then one of the mothers will always come out and treat them with “crackers” with raisins, but still soft with sugar crystals that did not manage to stick to the edge. These were crackers !!! If you become impudent, they will no longer give. Therefore, they "begged" at the bakery no more than once a week. And the smell of fresh pastries was heard on two opposite houses of the 20th and 22nd.
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 1 July 2020 21: 18 New
            +4
            I forgot the most important thing! Opposite the entrance of the Elektrostal plant, in 1975 a two-story dining room was built. I don’t know why outside the walls of the plant. But at that time she was "modern." The walls were faced with a shallow blue tile, like a mosaic. We picked them out and for some reason called them tugriks. In our courtyards on the street. Gorky, it was a freely convertible currency, unlike gum liners and colored corks from foreign bottles. On the ground floor of the dining room there was Cooking for mortals, on the second dining room for workers with coupons. What the workers didn’t eat, and the lines for the leftovers were not comic. The first time I got to the second floor was with my comrades when I was a trainee at the plant design bureau in 1984, although this dining room was 100 meters from the crossroads from the window of our apartment. We were given lunch tickets for 1 rub. 20 kopecks I remember that from the first dinner I was lagging before the culman, fingering with difficulty because of the severity of the swallowed plentifully food. It was summer: I remembered sorrel soup with eggs, schnitzel with the ubiquitous puree on milk, seasonal salad and cranberry juice. Not a compote, although he was. On the "line" on the tray, you could put many different cold dishes, mainly dairy, cooks poured hot. The main thing is to keep up with a twenty-five-rupee coupon (you pay the rest at the cash desk), and this was more than enough! There has always been meat! Mostly schnitzel, cutlets, goulash in the filling. Soups were different: I don’t remember cabbage soup, except for sorrel, but there was always Borsch, pea, noodles with chicken (broth). There was a lot of baking - there were pies with both of them .. I didn’t find any fish days, but there was always fish (usually they took mashed potatoes). There were definitely no sauces and ketchups, but there were delicious meat gravy. Buckwheat porridge was for some reason in short supply. But I could be wrong. I am writing about 1984. Those. food in factory canteens at the turn of the 80s was no different from today, with the exception of seasonality (for salads) and the absence of any exotic. In general, in the USSR, hard workers and engineers fed abundantly and high-calorie foods. Now in the former dining room of the Factory: on the ground floor there are Red and White and Pyaterochka, on the second floor there is a banquet Hall, in the basement there is a Betting Office. All for the workers !!!
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 1 July 2020 21: 58 New
              +2
              In the summer of 1979, as a young specialist and Komsomolets, I was sent from my office for 1 month to help the Resurrection Chemical Plant as an auxiliary worker. Thus, it was shown that for one month the main work of the graduate of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology can survive, but without such helpers the All-Union Komsomol shock building - a chemical plant, will be bent. I was lucky - I worked on the construction of a gas pipeline, among nature. We went to the dining room on the territory of the plant for lunch. The plant was like after the bombing, later found out that this is the normal state of any chemical production. I was struck by the dining room - the welders gave us coupons (they ate themselves at home), so they had cod liver soup, a decent meal, salad and compote, the rest could be bought for a penny.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 03: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: rruvim
      That was until almost the 82nd, until butter in eclairs and other cakes was replaced with margarine. Salty eclairs did not "send" me.

      We have not changed, in my opinion. no
      Quote: rruvim
      "Pharmacy" on the street Gorky. Some bought hematogen for 11 kopecks, others, the most active, a bottle of ascorbic acid - balls for 24 kopecks, and I loved the white retinol palmitate dragee for 36 kopecks.

      In pharmacies they also sold rose hip syrup and a tourniquet for slingshots.
  • Tests
    Tests 1 July 2020 18: 52 New
    +1
    3x3zsave (Anton), dear, at the defense plants of Severodvinsk, KTU was introduced in the 70s. The crews on the same SEVMASH were large, 40-50 people each, the work was the same, the ranks of 10-15 people in the brigade were the same. But one every Monday before noon somewhere flutters and falls asleep after yesterday, only after lunch can a wrench be held in the hands, and the other - from morning until night, it twists the nuts. But the team sees everything. This is a master in the morning, as a divorce will take place, somewhere he can be called to the leaders or to study, or to the instrumental, or to the firemen by permission to pre-plan something from the work for a week, and before lunch he does not know what, who and as he did, until the military representative arrives ...
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 July 2020 19: 28 New
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      At the defense plants of Severodvinsk, KTU was introduced in the 70s.

      Surprisingly, in the suburbs KTU appeared in the mid-80s
  • Nikolai
    Nikolai 1 July 2020 20: 55 New
    +1
    MORE: ascorbic acid, vitamin C, multivitamins, rosehip syrup in a pharmacy; baby food (meat, poultry, vegetable, fruit), glazed curd cheeses, curd with raisins, juices and cans in jars, gorgeous fish in specialized stores, canned vegetables and meat, dry soups and cereals, cereals in jars, chicory with sugar syrup. The quality of the bread was excellent.
    Bagels, dryers, bagels, crackers, gingerbread cookies.
  • Alexey Ustelentsev
    Alexey Ustelentsev 1 July 2020 21: 07 New
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    So Vlad writes that there seemed to be no draft there.

    In the bar of the Stepan Razin and Vienna factories there is only a bottle, and in the bar of the Krasnaya Bavaria factory.
    1. Alexey Ustelentsev
      Alexey Ustelentsev 1 July 2020 21: 14 New
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      And in the Zhiguli pub? Several beers are light and dark. But the best beer was - "Kola". In Murmansk it was free to buy. But produced in small batches. Now I cook mine and drink only mine. True, only from German components. Malt, hops and yeast.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 08: 32 New
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        Kola beer is an amateur, it was tasteful, although the product itself was decent. Petrozavodsk was still not bad.
  • Alexey Ustelentsev
    Alexey Ustelentsev 1 July 2020 21: 30 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Yes, any number!

    You won’t find bottled beer without preservatives. wink

    Preservation of real beer is ensured by high-quality hops with antibacterial properties.
  • Old26
    Old26 1 July 2020 21: 41 New
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    Quote: Alexy
    Partially found the USSR, partly from the stories of parents, grandparents, but made one conclusion:
    So far, people had little money - there was enough food and goods in stores. As soon as people began to earn more, and even put off many, so gradually everything began to disappear.

    The conclusion of ge is quite correct. The deficit was sometimes created artificially, regardless of how much money the population had. The presence or absence of a large amount of money could affect the purchase of expensive things, but not products. But the products disappeared regardless of the presence or absence of money.
    Let me give you an example - Novocherkassk, in which I lived from 1973 to 1987. If in 1973-1975 there were several varieties of sausage in the stores (Doctor's, Amateur, sausage-ham chopped, Krakow, liverworm, whale, offal, plus ham, there were several varieties of butter (at least two - butter, Vologda) plus chocolate, then by the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s almost all of this had disappeared from the shelves. Far from the best varieties of sausages (Estonian with a lot of fat, the Doctor’s deficit (it just didn’t lie in stores). Oil was on coupons - two packs per month, but in bulk was sandwich oil (essentially margarine).
    In the same fish store, the number of varieties of fish fell (and this is in a city located almost on the Don). True, in different packaging, pollock roe appeared (from plastic jars, like in processed cheese, to the point, not even to kilogram barrels).
    The fact that local authorities often sent the bulk of products to the capital played a role. For example, I brought smoked sausage "Novocherkasskaya" from Moscow, where there was a company store "Novocherkassk". When at the end of 81 in Moscow there were minor problems with oil, they issued him at work. I mark a business trip at the Institute of Management Problems (Trapeznikova). The girls got packs of butter in the buffet. I submit a business trip - and they read it - the Rostov region and laugh: "That's where our oil goes." And on the table are several packs of oil, on the end of which was the inscription _ "Novocherkassk Dairy Plant." Were very surprised

    The same thing happened during the time of Gorbi, especially in the last years of his reign. Stavropol, which was always famous for its abundance, introduced coupons and customer cards ...

    Quote: rruvim
    I also remember very well how my mother cooked fish (stewed) with mashed carrots and onions. With boiled potatoes (not mashed potatoes!). A day later I went to the "Orsovsky" store for two or three carcasses "back of pollock" (56 kopecks / kg.) And cooked them for our cat. About ten years later (1991-92), he asked his mother: "What kind of fish did we eat then, when I gave all the pollock to a cat?" Answer: "Hake and cod!"

    Grandmother and mother also cooked fish like that. And the hack was in the buffet (both the institute and the KB cache). Fried. Usually the question was: "Well, let's go hoe"?
    The back of pollock is always remembered as highly salted. It went well for both potatoes and beer

    Quote: Krasnodar
    Nobody was already dying of hunger in the 50s, according to his father - they ate so-so, everything was fine in the shops, but people didn’t have money in the Moldavian province, and not so much in Chisinau. In the 60s, there was simply more money, thanks in part to Leonid Ilyich, who had discovered a lot of things in Moldova, and that opened the separate Chamber of Commerce in Chisinau in the USSR and opened not only the republic, but also Chisinau. According to our childhood, in the summer we visited relatives in Ukraine (Chernivtsi, Odessa, Donetsk) and Russia - Novosibirsk, Lazarevskoye, Moscow. Chisinau supply was not much inferior to the capital (I didn’t go into details according to my impressions) and surpassed Ukrainian, in my opinion of adults and conversations, Ukrainian, and Bukovinian was the most worthy, from memory.

    Supply in the 50s was quite up to standard. At least as a child, he did not starve, as did his grandmother and grandfather, and neighbors. Again, it all depended on the region. The North Caucasus was very successful in this regard. If you had a desire for a holiday, you could buy a glass jar with black caviar or homemade in the market. There were a lot of fish, meat was eaten, if not every day, then a couple of times a week - for sure.

    Quote: Liam
    Hello hi
    Well, I’ll be a little older than you. But that doesn’t change the matter. Stories about the abundance of the 60s (so as not to relate to Stalin's time) are left to the conscience of the narrators.

    Why conscience? For example, I was born in 1954. I have already met the 60s in the school season. And as one of my acquaintances says - "My eyes do not need witnesses."
    There have never been any complaints about products from adults. Compared to the 70s, there really were plenty. The problems were before Khrushchev was dismissed (regarding bread), but when he was removed, everything immediately appeared. So the deficit was artificially caused. The same thing happened during the famous events in Novocherkassk. But the reason was not the lack of products, but the banal indifference of the leadership, which resulted in protests and blood.
    By the way, almost until the beginning of the 90s, stores such as "culinary" were preserved, where semi-finished products were sold. The assortment compared to the 60-70s was less, but the quality still remained at its best.

    Quote: Avior
    Melted cheese was not a deficit, but they were valued very low.

    Watching for what. As a snack - the first thing. By the way, there was another dish that made almost all of the processed cheese. For some reason they called it “Jewish appetizer” - grated processed cheese, garlic, mayonnaise. Processed cheese could be replaced with grated carrots or boiled beets.

    Quote: Phil77
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you for your article! This series of memories is amazing! Cake * Bird's milk * was expensive for our family / 6 r.40 kopecks ./, and it was problematic to buy it. Mom bought either * Fairy Tale * or * for the holidays Leningradsky * for 2.60.

    Grandmother baked superbly and when they lived in Ukraine she often sent a package with baked goods for the holidays. And in the store usually bought two types of waffle cakes. One of which was drenched in chocolate. If someone before the holiday went to Kiev (200 km of distance, the fare on the bus is 3 rubles 60 kopecks), then he brought the Kiev cake to order. He was always in the same shop on Khreshchatyk. By the way, there was also a cafe nearby, where there were pies and broth in cups. Pe6 - the best thing

    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Van 16

    Grandmother even baked bread in the oven, about once every two weeks, huge white loaves, one immediately on the table, the rest in the well

    It is clear either the Stavropol Territory or the Krasnodar Territory.

    My grandmother also baked bread in an ordinary oven. High loaves. This was in the early 60s, when before the removal of Khrushchev there was a certain shortage of bakery products

    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    I was born a little later! So instead of draft beer, I found kvass in yellow-red barrels on wheels. On the oldest, the word beer was probably smeared with red paint, and on top it was written - Kvass! And there was always a fountain for washing mugs. If you do not lie: a small paper cost - 3 kopecks, normal - 6 kopecks, and a healthy liter mug -12 kopecks!

    Kvass had 3 kopecks a glass faceted glass (I don’t remember the cardboard) and a mug - 6 kopecks. I did not meet a liter mug
    A mug of beer, depending on the variety, would cost 22 kopecks (Zhigulevskoye) and 26 kopecks “Barley ear” in the beer house. In the EMNIP pub, the mug cost 35 kopecks
    1. Alexey Ustelentsev
      Alexey Ustelentsev 1 July 2020 21: 51 New
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      All right. A bottle of beer also cost 22 kopecks. Each region of the USSR was proud of its beer. Rightfully, by the way.
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 1 July 2020 21: 55 New
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        Quote: Alexey Ustelentsev
        All right. A bottle of beer also cost 22 kopecks. Each region of the USSR was proud of its beer. Rightfully, by the way.

        Zhigulevskoe cost 37 kopecks.
        37-12 (cost of a bottle) = 25 kopecks.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 08: 30 New
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          Then the container went up to 20 kopecks and Zhigulevskoe began to cost 45 kopecks.
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 2 July 2020 13: 53 New
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            Since July 1, 1979.
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 1 July 2020 21: 58 New
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      And in Moscow in Prague, the cake ,, Prague '' is a fantasy, an opera, as Panikovsky said ....
    3. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 1 July 2020 22: 05 New
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      Processed cheese + egg + cod liver and just don’t say it’s not tasty ...
  • Alexey Ustelentsev
    Alexey Ustelentsev 1 July 2020 22: 01 New
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    Quote: Skalendarka
    Quote: Alexey Ustelentsev
    All right. A bottle of beer also cost 22 kopecks. Each region of the USSR was proud of its beer. Rightfully, by the way.

    Zhigulevskoe cost 37 kopecks.
    37-12 (cost of a bottle) = 25 kopecks.

    It depends on where. In Ukraine, 22 kopecks until 1991 kept the price. And the best was Chernihiv and Vinnitsa.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 1 July 2020 22: 14 New
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    Cakes for some reason cost all 22 kopecks. Regardless of shape, size, ingredients, name ...
    Potato, custard, shortbread ring, sponge cake with cream - 22 kopecks. Of all this, I liked the "potato", although ... milk cakes of 8 kopecks were more profitable. or a skewer with cottage cheese for 9 kopecks.
    From the juices, in the 80s, when I could afford to drink whatever I wanted (well, except for beer-vodka - out of competition), I liked plum juice very much. There was such a series of Hungarian Globus juices, of which plum was sweet and sour, as thick as apple puree and caused a strong desire to give 80 kopecks for it daily for a bottle of 0,5. What is not cheap, beer was 44 or more, the cheapest soda of the famous Italian brand of some Pinocchio - 22 kopecks. (of which 12 is the cost of the bottle).
  • rruvim
    rruvim 1 July 2020 22: 51 New
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    In 1981, I went with my father (then came several times) to our relatives in the Astrakhan region, in a village. Alekseevka under Tsvetnoy, Volodarsky district. You can write and talk for hours about the cuisine of the time in a fishing village. The main thing is that everyone then (Astrakhan earned a lot - piecework fish) had two refrigerators. It was a necessity! But in 1981, I remembered the fact that, in spite of the holidays and the status of a “Muscovite,” they sent me to work on the collective farm melon. Each "fisherman" had to work on the "ground". I, as a teenager, was replaced by one of the local children. But I did not regret it. They picked up tomatoes, slept in huts, ate delicious bread and a stew of "partial" - a real ear of white fish with millet, boiled like porridge. Local collective farmers did everything for jokes and jokes. At first I foolishly ate these tomatoes, they were so tasty: the Astrakhan land is saturated with saltpeter and they seem salted to the vine to taste. Then she was nauseous from overeating. We collected these tomatoes all over the country! Where are these tomatoes now? How many years have passed, and I still can’t buy the tasteless muck in supermarkets, which we call tomatoes. My garden helps out for the summer. And then in the 80s hydroponics with chyme was in conception and many people cultivated and harvested in the natural environment. Now most of the tomato melons in the Astrakhan region are abandoned, could not stand the competition with the Turkish "stream".
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 1 July 2020 23: 49 New
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    In a grating old man's voice: here it is,
    In comments why **** srach bred ?!
    A good topic, remembered the childhood or adolescence, in the region of residence in the USSR and do not "get annoyed!"
    I wanted to leave a comment on how ya "lived in paradise" - I will not, just in case smiled
  • rruvim
    rruvim 1 July 2020 23: 55 New
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    I also remember another meal. Well already in the details. In 1991, I worked or was listed in a certain office (which then grew like mushrooms) under the loud abbreviation "Research and Information Center ...", in general, the cooperative does not understand why. The room was on Pokrovsky Boulevard. We spent the night there, for they were single and everything was like a drum. The nearest store (Department Store) in the Khitrov Market area at one time, in Sovetskoye, was no worse than Eliseevsky. But in the summer of 1991, we usually bought a loaf of bread in the morning, a jar of jam (Krasnodar) and a bottle of Solnechny - a mixture of sugar with some fruit filling. Not about any sausage, or even about black bread was out of the question. Vodka either by coupons or by taxi drivers at a night department store on Taganka. It was possible to buy the 40-degree “Alsu” (Pogonyalovo) - apple tincture from the Union Republic, but closer to Kitai-Gorod. Nearby was a glass next to Yauza, a cafe for taxis, there are pasties and kebabs in the "trident", and in 1991, "pasties" and "kebabs" are one name. My older comrades (some worked in the "office") unanimously said: "Fell the Union! Artificial deficit!". I then left for my parents in the village. Two years before, they had bought a house near Kozelsk, bred pigs, chickens, indoo. So I then ate meat! They cut down a goose, got last year's pickles from the cellar (a separate "bomb shelter"), ran to the local "carp" for fresh fish, and his father put out a moonshine of his own composition. Greens and vegetables from the garden. There is a photo from that table on the "soap box". I still wonder! On the 19th I was already “fraternizing” with the guys from the Strategic Missile Forces division, rejoicing that this “perestroika” nightmare was over. What was my surprise on the third day, at the time of the hangover ....
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 2 July 2020 00: 24 New
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      In the winter of the 91st there was still such a joke. In the morning we wake up in a cooperative, who is where. All pipes are burning ... It is necessary to send messengers. You can’t find a strong guy, and beer is only in vending machines up Pokrovsky Boulevard in the direction of “clean ponds”. We had a 30 liter bottle. We organize an expedition. Three with sledges, a bottle is attached on a sled, in the hands of one funnel. We get to the machines. There is a queue. It is connected with the fact that machines accept only 20 kopek coins, before a mug was poured before inflation, now beer is poured with a finger. In order to pour 0.5 (a mug), you need ten 20 penny coins. And we have a 30-liter bottle. Nearby, a man exchanges "pieces of paper" for coins. We exchange. I substitute earflaps, completely clogging her with coins. We drive away from one of the machines of the afflicted (in the dashing 90s it was in the order of things) and begin the process. One holds a mug, the other throws coins, I pour the mug through the funnel into the bottle. Everything is brought to automatism. Prior to this, "recovered" ... After forty minutes, happy pulling a sled with a bottle back to the envious glances of the Moscow public. In the office, suffering lads are waiting. Of the appetizer, only Finnish Fazer chocolate, the first foreign trade operation conducted by our strange cooperative. For lack of a warehouse, boxes of chocolate are lined up in barricades in corridors, rooms, openings ... But a BOTTLE of beer transforms everything around. Oh, memories ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 03: 50 New
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        Quote: rruvim
        We had a 30 liter bottle. We organize an expedition. Three with sledges, a bottle is attached on a sled, in the hands of one funnel. We get to the machines.

        We didn’t have machines, but I remember how together we dragged 12 three-liter cans of beer. In short, they blew the cards, put the whole common fund for beer, and we ran into it ... Two men walked from the hangover, so we gave them one can.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 13: 58 New
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          I remember that we took beer to a company in a milk flask.
  • Old26
    Old26 2 July 2020 00: 43 New
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    Quote: Reptiloid
    Greetings, Alexander! It seems to me that the matter is still different. According to the stories, it turns out that refrigerators in people began to appear gradually from the end of the 50s. What about before that? There were some appliances, but they didn’t especially replace the real refrigerator. Did not buy a lot. Where to store?
    Although I met an old foundation with cold pantries occasionally ....
    It was a completely different life ...

    A grandmother appeared at home with her grandfather and grandfather somewhere in 58-59. "Saratov". About a meter high. Prior to this, perishable products were stored in the basement. In winter it’s easier, and in the summer in the south ... Such storage was not long-term. But those who had their own house, those times had cellars in the yard. What - see "Wedding in the Robin." Popandopulo climbed out of this cellar.
    Friends of this cellar was probably a depth of 3-4 meters. vaulted stone ceilings. And there they have THREE "rooms". In the summer in it one could stay in one shirt for about 20 minutes, then it started to shiver
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 2 July 2020 00: 48 New
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      Quote: Old26
      . In the summer in it one could stay in one shirt for about 20 minutes, then it started to shiver

      Well, that’s enough for you with your endurance and frost resistance belay I climbed into the Taken cellar to the very bottom and thought that I was covered with hoarfrost wassat drinks
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 2 July 2020 01: 33 New
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    It’s a rather strange situation to leave the child in the care of those who can not only take care of themselves but also constantly poison the products.
  • Ua3qhp
    Ua3qhp 2 July 2020 08: 32 New
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    Quote: Liam
    Unless in terms. After a couple of hours it began to get dark. The emerald color acquired on the second day)
    Because there were no preservatives. This is now a doctor’s can in the summer for two days lying on the table and not foul.
  • Old26
    Old26 2 July 2020 11: 39 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Old26
    . In the summer in it one could stay in one shirt for about 20 minutes, then it started to shiver

    Well, that’s enough for you with your endurance and frost resistance belay I climbed into the Taken cellar to the very bottom and thought that I was covered with hoarfrost wassat drinks

    We were then invited to my birthday with my future wife. Came a little earlier, it was necessary to help the hostess. Here we are with the owner (his day was) and climbed into this cellar. At the second approach, they were smarter. The movement was along the route: entrance - a bottle of alcohol - products that needed to be taken - again a bottle - exit
  • Tests
    Tests 2 July 2020 18: 43 New
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    Old26 (Vladimir), April 15 or 16, 1979 flew from Kiev from the wedding of a cousin. What to bring to the Far North - of course, the Kiev cake! They bought as many as 2 pieces, put one box on the other, poor KISI students tied the box up with a narrow bandage, didn’t find other ropes in the hostel ... The plane on the route Odessa-Kiev-Arkhangelsk just landed at Talagi airport, a chairmate asks: "To Severodvinsk how to get there? " I say: "I will show the bus five hundred thirty-first." I get a hat, a long scarf, thick suede gloves from a sports bag, my neighbor’s eyes are getting bigger and bigger. There are 5 of them on a business trip to us, all without jackets. We have -4, snow to the ears, the wind 15-20 meters per second, throws! In Odessa +18, in Kiev +15 it was ... Guys from the bus stop of the Rainbow Department Store to the Volna hotel in suits and low shoes like penguins stomped through snowdrifts with diplomats in their hands ... I reached the final Prospect of Labor and courtyards, so that the wind is smaller. Near the house, the wind blows up the bandages, the top box flies, the lid flies to the side, the cake itself plans to snow. I still don’t understand how I kept the bottom box of the second cake. a sports bag with a long belt slipped from the shoulder and over the legs, the infection. How I caught the box from the top cake - it was a circus, most importantly the cakes didn’t even get crushed. Pleased both mom and aunt. Kiev cake is Kiev cake !! !
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 5 July 2020 14: 39 New
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    The article directly begs .. Sit in a crowd and nastalgiruyte for a cup of tea. About dumplings, pies with rice. Eh ...... Directly useful product.
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 6 July 2020 20: 10 New
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    Truffle sweets - 8p 80 kopecks per 1 kg. It was in the years 1965-66. Saleswomen could cut them into quarters upon request. There were also candies "Lake Ritsa". And condensed milk stood in rows in stores ...
  • Old26
    Old26 6 July 2020 22: 00 New
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    Quote: Plastmaster
    The article directly begs .. Sit in a crowd and nastalgiruyte for a cup of tea. About dumplings, pies with rice. Eh ...... Directly useful product.

    Or maybe a glass of tea? laughing