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Page from the journal "Technology of Youth" No. 3 for 1968. It is very well drawn, isn't it? And the text is quite informative, especially for a boy of 14 years old

“In a dream, he remembered the last time he saw his mother, and a few seconds after waking up, the whole chain of minor events of that day was restored. Probably, for many years he pushed away this memory from himself. "What time it refers to, he did not know for sure, but then he was not less than ten years old, or even all twelve."
J. Orwell. Xnumx


History and documents. Farther and farther away we are leaving the time of a truly great social experiment - attempts to create a social system in a patriarchal country with a petty-bourgeois peasant consciousness with a new level of social relations and high culture. The fact that this attempt is likely to fail will be warned by Lenin's comrade A. Bogdanov in his science fiction novel Red Star (1908), but then everything he wrote was considered, of course, pure fantasy. But be that as it may, a lot has been done, and primarily in the field of the development of spiritual culture. But spiritual culture is essentially a negotiable medal of education and awareness of citizens. Moreover, awareness from a young age, because, according to teachers and psychologists, a child under five years old learns about life more than for the rest of his life.



I thought about this issue and again felt that readers of VO would probably be interested in learning not so much the general information and figures about how this very “informing” happened in our country in the past, but how to get acquainted with the “little story” »Of one person, and his subjective look at how in his childhood he received information of interest to him. After all, those who remembered that era are leaving a little, and soon, as it was then, new generations at best can learn only from books.

So, recalling the past, I can say that I remember myself well from the age of five and a half, I remember a two-room house with a large stove, a canopy and barns, a huge garden and about the same houses of my friends' boys along Proletarskaya Street in Penza. And only from "our side" of the street. We never walked across the road. There were "strangers."

I felt the need to receive information even then. And he received it from the stories of adults, my closest relatives: grandfather, grandmother and mother, as well as from books that they read to me. And the books were taken from a large bookcase, the largest on our street. In other houses cost small shelves. In the barn, my grandfather kept the binder of the magazine "Twinkle" of the early 50's, which I could not remember. I could not read them either, but with pleasure I looked at the pictures. Especially those where the guns were, Tanks and machines.

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Record-12 TV of 1959 of release

And then everything miraculously changed. In 1959, a television appeared in Penza, and my mother was the first to buy the Record TV on the street, although she was warned that the “TV” attracts lightning. First, the transmission began at 19.00. They went local news, transmission about the shortcomings “Television Wick” and “Wick Mail”, which examined complaints. Concerts were often shown, and then a movie was shown without fail. And no matter how interesting I play, in the evening I was obliged to call home, and then all the other guys, because televisions appeared in their homes, and we began to enjoy domestic and foreign cinema daily and together. The films showed a wide variety, ranging from “Cherbourg Umbrellas” and “Waterloo Bridge” to “Baltic Deputy”, “Baltic Sky” and such rarities as “Aelita”, “Two Friends, a Model and a Friend” and “City Lights” with Charlie Chaplin. Some films made me panicky. For example, “Silent Star” based on the 1959 novel by Stanislav Lem and “Star Boy”, filmed in 1957. However, there will be separate material about the informational component of cinema. In the meantime, I’ll just say that the movie had a huge impact on us, the boys from Proletarskaya Street.


The same "Record", rear view

There were a lot of humorous programs with the unforgettable Arkady Raikin, as well as World and Novitsky, and Plugs and Tarapunka. For their sake, I even watched concerts, because often they also participated in them. Many of their speeches were vividly political. For example, when the Americans launched copper needles into space, Mirov and Novitsky immediately reacted to this with couplets of the following content: “Wolves threw needles into the sky. After all, we can fly and thread the needles! ”


Tarapunka and Plugs - a great satirical duet of Ukrainian and Russian in the era of friendship of peoples

Surprisingly, among us, the then boys, it was somehow not customary to ask adults ... literally nothing. Those were on their own, ourselves. Of course, I liked to listen to the conversations of adults, but it never occurred to me to ask what they were talking about. Here it is!


Leo Mirov and Mark Brook (Novitsky) - two Jews who fun the whole USSR

And, of course, we were not led in the way that children are now led. "Do not run, do not jump - you fall, do not go into the puddle - you get dirty!" Only today you hear the shouts of adults walking between houses with children. It was different with us: you dressed or you dressed, released into the street - and there other yards, sheds, a wasteland beyond the railway, a construction site, a river ... run, jump, break your arms and legs, drown in the river - these were all ours, children's problems. Although, for example, if I did not come home for six to eight hours in a row, then my grandmother went to look for me in the vicinity.


Arkady Raikin: all my life is sheer laughter!

TV was probably a very important source of information for quite some time. But gradually others began to be added to it. For example, a radio. However, I listened to the radio even before the appearance of a television receiver in the house, but I do not remember very well what was broadcast there. But then, getting older, I listened to him for hours, especially since children's programs were usually broadcast on Sundays in the morning, when the television was not yet working.

And I must say that the programs were just excellent - they would be for adults to listen now! “Club of famous captains” (“In the rustle of mice, in the creak of floorboards, we slowly and dignifiedly leave the pages. The caftans rustle, someone's sword rings, we are all captains, everyone is famous!”). It was she who introduced me to Captain Nemo, the captain of the Korshun corvette, Dick Sand, Tartaren from Tarascon (when I found out that I have a book in my home library, I really rejoiced, but I read it already at 14!). There were also such programs about literature as “In the Country of Literary Heroes” and “Postal Stagecoach”. And what about the funniest program “KOAPP” - “The Copyright Committee of Nature”? Or "Baby Monitor", who taught to write and reduce fractions correctly. “But I don’t remember, even kill, the reduction of fractions!” Not very pedagogical, but erased in memory forever! How much she gave me useful information, you can’t even say. By the way, I heard about Gagarin’s flight on the radio, sitting at home due to slushy spring and bad weather.


"One hundred business of two friends." A unique book for its time. And at first there was a TV program, then a book. As an adult, I did the same, only already in Penza. First, the TV program "UT Studio", "Workshop of a school country", "Children invented", and then the books - "From everything at hand", "When the lessons are done", "For those who like tinkering"

By the way, returning to educational programs on TV, I want to note that in the 60s of the last century they were broadcast almost constantly. On the Central Channel - the program "One Hundred Things of Two Friends", and on the Leningrad (but it also went on in Penza) - the program "Operation" Sirius-2 ". Very unusually conceived, by the way. Two major roles were played Robot - Trix (he starred in the movie "Planet of Storms") and Mecha, allegedly abandoned to us on Earth from an inhabited planet near the star Sirius. They got acquainted with our Earth and introduced it to those who watched this program. Naturally, it also could not do without “bad Americans”. So, Trix, flying over the Pacific Ocean, met in the sky with a US Air Force combat aircraft, which fired at him "many small pointed objects that could harm his mechanisms." Trix collected them with his protective magnetic field and sent them back, after which "the aircraft chasing him began to descend sharply." Naturally, the children, participants in the program, shouted “Hurrah” in unison.


There he is, Trix Robot. First, the robot in the movie "Planet of the Storms"

We didn’t have such programs in Penza, but we watched Valentin Zorin and our local political scientist Granovsky, who talked about the international situation in the “talking head” format twenty minutes a week. So, in general, one could not ask them what was going on in the adult world! Very frightened the transfer of the headquarters of civil defense. But on the other hand, I knew exactly what to do in the event of an atomic bomb explosion and that the hay, which had poisonous chemicals, was burned, and if radioactive, it was buried.

Needless to say, the TV shows The Cinema Travel Club, which has been out since 1960, and The Kids About the Beasts, were among my favorite shows? And since 1966, the miniature theater "Zucchini 13 Chairs" was added to them, which went out at exactly 20.00.


"Zucchini 13 chairs." Pan Professor, Mrs. Monika, Pan Votruba and Pan Director solve some “important issue”

I read books at home. They read interestingly, a lot, so that I myself did not want to learn to read. I was literally written down to the school library by force in May 1963 after my mother read to me both the Viking Campaign by Jean Olivier and Three Musketeers by A. Dumas and Professor Duel Head A. Belyaev. The reason for such a strange choice of books for reading to a first-grader child was apparently due to the presence of all this on the shelves of our bookcase, where there were simply no children's books. And mother was not up to going to the children's library for books, and she read what was interesting to her. As a child, I was often sick, could not sleep and lay with a high fever. Well, she read to me ... “Island of the Dead Ships”, “Amphibian Man” and even Herbert Wells’s novels “The Invisible Man”, “The War of the Worlds” and “When the Sleeping One Wakes Up”. These were not children's books at all, but ... they provided a lot of food for the mind. I well remember how I lay with temperature, listened to the horrors of the Martians or the death of the unfortunate Griffin and banged my teeth in fear, and everyone thought that I had a chill. As a result, I read Russian folk tales at the end of the fourth grade and was very surprised that, it turns out, there are such interesting books.


Fighting for Fire is a favorite book from an early age.


“Aircraft Designer Tales” was the book that generated interest in technology

Since 1964, magazines have become another source of information for me. At school, again, they demanded that we write out children's publications - "Funny Pictures", "Murzilka", but they seemed too childish to me, because at home my grandfather wrote out the magazine "Around the World" and read a lot from it to me, well, there were pictures too very interesting. But if necessary, then necessary. And then my mother wrote to me a whole bunch of magazines: “Young Technician”, “Young Naturalist”, “Pioneer” and “Bonfire”, so there was no question of any “Murzilka” here. Moreover, all the same magazines of my elder cousin were given to me for the 50s, so I didn’t so much learn, or rather, learn somehow, how much, over the years, read these magazines and ... compared with what wrote in the 60s. So the craving for the analysis of the read and the systematization of the material I already showed up. Well, to technology, too, because, as soon as in 1964, A.S. Yakovleva “Aircraft Designer Tales”, I was immediately bought it, and I forced her to read it, although by that time I had been able to read it myself for a long time. But he loved that "iconic" books were still read aloud to me.


“Viking Campaign” - since then I love this topic, as evidenced by the publications on “VO”

All of these publications were very informative. In the magazines “Bonfire” and “Pioneer” (I don’t remember which ones) I read V. Krapivin’s wonderful novels “The Side Where the Wind Is”, “People from the frigate“ Africa ”and“ Squire Kashka ”, the fantastic novel“ Guests with Miona ”, fantasy Astrid Lindgren“ Myo, My Myo ”and Pamela Travers“ Mary Poppins ”. It was in the Koster magazine that there were descriptions (on the penultimate page of the cover) of the cutter and Polynesian catamaran models - in a word, which was not only in these magazines!


From this issue my acquaintance with the magazine “Horizons of technology for children” began. The picture caught my attention, and I immediately bought a magazine and then bought for many years. By the way, the magazine came to us in the USSR until 1990.

In 1966, the Modeller-Designer magazine began to appear, and I went to buy it at a kiosk at the end of our street. However, there I also found another magazine that won my heart - the Polish magazine for Soviet children, “Horizons of technology for children.” Surprisingly, then they understood how important it was to make friends of the children of our countries, to deprive them of the prejudices of adults, and this was done very skillfully, at least from the side of the Poles who published this magazine. In fictionalized form, it reported on the achievements of science and technology, not only of Poland, but also of other countries, including the USSR and pre-revolutionary Russia.


On the last page of the cover of this issue was such a technical mystery. It was necessary to send a letter with answers to Poland and get a prize. But ... I have never won, so what were the prizes, I can not say

Very interesting fiction stories on the history of science and technology were printed. From it one could learn about the simplest physical and chemical experiments, about how to make certain home-made products, and also addresses of Polish children who wanted to correspond with their peers in the USSR were given in it. And, yes, we corresponded, although our correspondence broke off pretty quickly. We simply did not know what we could write to each other, and we had little money for gifts.


In the magazine "Model Designer" there were many interesting topics, and also came across very interesting drawings for a 14-year-old boy

In the same year, we were accepted as pioneers by the whole class, after which it was necessary to write out “Pioneer Truth”, but I wrote it a year earlier and did not regret it. Because it was in 1965 that the excellent fantastic novel “The Night Eagle” by A. Lomma was published there, and then the adventure novel “The Blue Lobster” (continuation of the novel “The Island of the Giants”) by A. Neggo. By the way, both last works have been made into films. First they shot the four-episode television movie “Shadows of the Old Castle” on “The Island of the Giants”, and then the color film “Passenger from the Equator”. That is, it was just a sea of ​​pleasure - first read, then watch! But the first three pages of all kinds of slogans and appeals like: “Pioneer is an example to all the guys” I usually never read.


And here is a page from the magazine "Technique-Youth" No. 2 for 1968. Then for the first time I saw so many pistols that we, then-boys, saw only in the movies and who loved to do it with our own hands. But what if there is no picture or photograph? And here at least something. As a result, for several days I only dealt with the fact that on our entire street I was redrawing pistols and revolvers that the guys liked

I remember how in the printed edition of the book “Club of Famous Captains” I found a drawing of a revolver - a dragoon Colt. I did not know then that he was dragoon. But it was a real holiday. Immediately he began to do it and did it. With a rotating drum from a piece of handle from a shovel!

Since 1968, I said goodbye to Pionerskaya Pravda, as well as to the Pioneer and Koster magazines, as I became a member of the Komsomol, but then I began to write out “Technique for Youth” and read “Abroad” to do political information in class . The Young Naturalist also had to be abandoned. I realized that animals and plants are not mine.

Children, if they wanted, of course, and the wishes and abilities of their parents, could receive an almost unlimited amount of information that was allowed for distribution in society at that time. On our street, however, so few were lucky. Many parents from working families spared money on a subscription. However, those who wanted could take the same magazines in libraries. So, we generally had enough positive information, except perhaps the images of pistols and revolvers, coupled with another cinema-television weapons. We also received “anti-social information,” but I will tell you next time how and in what way.

To be continued ...
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  1. +43
    18 February 2020 18: 17
    just at work they were discussing the USSR. A generation has come that knows about our country by hearsay. There was a lot of bad, but a lot of good. Just then, many of us did not understand the reality, laughed and there was for what and what.
    But there is a proverb, "we do not store what we have. If we lose, we cry"
    This is about us Soviet. Only now, with age, do you understand the power and weakness of the USSR, but we were proud of Gagarin, the achievements of the country, our flags over the seas and oceans. There was confidence in the future.
    Unfortunately, the current time is completely different and there is little reason for optimism.
    1. +28
      18 February 2020 18: 29
      Worked where they lived. Now - If !!! found a job, looking for where to remove !!! housing.
    2. +37
      18 February 2020 18: 44
      Crap Leonid Ilyich !!!!
      1. +23
        18 February 2020 19: 02
        And in the presence of different sausages it is very, very bad
        1. +13
          18 February 2020 20: 04
          Such sausages that we brought to Kostroma by train from Moscow are no longer singing ... crying
          1. 0
            20 February 2020 14: 43
            Now in Kostroma sausages are tastier than in Moscow)))
        2. +12
          18 February 2020 21: 22
          Quote: Sergey Olegovich
          And in the presence of different sausages

          if there were sausages, and then a sausage product
          1. +10
            18 February 2020 21: 27
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            if there were sausages, and then a sausage product

            so deceived! Find a sausage that meets GOST! Give that Soviet sausage!
            1. +14
              18 February 2020 21: 29
              what do you want, what you threw on the counter then go on a bite, they don’t like fragrances and emulsifiers
              1. +2
                25 February 2020 11: 34
                what do you want, what you threw on the counter then go on a bite, they don’t like fragrances and emulsifiers

                For some reason, storytellers and apologists for the myth of tasty and wholesome food in the USSR clearly forget (or do not know) that the Soviet guests, or rather the notes to them, also allowed the replacement of some ingredients with others, as well as additives in the form of improvers, phosphates and nitrites . I'm not talking about the fact that, quite officially, the Soviet guest allowed replacing the veneered meat with the cheek, boiling out of hooves, urine bubbles and aisles. Well, that’s not interesting for you. It is more important to bawl and like to collect
                1. -2
                  25 February 2020 14: 08
                  you ate that Soviet sausage, windy, which supposedly from paper, could dry in a cracker, and threw it in a soup and normally as it should be dried meat, and today's boiled even in the refrigerator turns into a terrible jelly, I know how many injection chickens are by standards do for a short 29 day life?
                  maybe Soviet milk was stored for a year and ice cream could be transported from one end of the country to the other
                  You will tell tales to children who did not live in the Union, but to those who saw and ate it all
                  by the way ravings about unauthorized change in the recipe and even more so guests do not need to
                  1. 0
                    25 February 2020 18: 22
                    Yes, only Barmaleyka lived in the Soviet Union and has survived since then. And the rest can be seen (without exception) were born only under damned capitalism, fed with GMOs in palm oil. Always amused "experts", whose erudition is not wider than a hole in the toilet, but who can and want to judge everything and everyone)
                    1. 0
                      25 February 2020 20: 28
                      Quote: Designer 68
                      Always amused "experts", whose erudition is not wider than a hole in the toilet, but who can and want to judge everything and everyone)

                      self-critical
            2. +1
              19 February 2020 21: 35
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Barmaleyka
              if there were sausages, and then a sausage product

              so deceived! Find a sausage that meets GOST! Give that Soviet sausage!

              if from the oblast buffet, yes ....
              but the one that we sold in stores is not necessary for nothing. Stable once a month, someone at school poisoned the district consumer goods union. Not only is rubbish - it also cost 6-40 because it was half-smoked

              Quote: Barmaleyka
              why they threw it on the counter
              - that is exactly what it was ... that "Thrown out yesterday !!!" - then they ate, if they had time to buy
              1 / 1989 Health Journal
              "What is the sausage made from?
              The cost of 2 ruble 90 kopecks - from the highest grades of meat, and 2 ruble 20 kopecks and lower - from the first and second. For sausages of the highest grade, there is a traditional recipe, since pre-war times. The recipe for sausages of the first and second grades has undergone changes. In particular, additives are allowed in them. The same sodium caseinate, just milk protein. It is absolutely harmless to the body; By the way, the nutritional values ​​of the proteins of milk and meat are the same.
              They didn’t add before, the reader will say. True, but before, the meat was not so fat. According to the technology of cooking sausages, the ratio of protein to fat in them on average should be equal to 1: 2. Now imagine a piece of beef: it contains 15% meat, the rest is fat. The arithmetic is extremely simple: so that the sausage does not turn out to be greasy, they take 15% meat and 30% fat, and where else? Throw away? Or change the recipes for sausages and cook them with a high fat content? It is the high fat content of meat that creates a hopeless situation and forces the use of milk proteins. Until Gosagroprom of the USSR - and the supplier of raw materials - improves
              20 wagons with raw materials arrive at the Moscow meat processing plant daily. Carcases, half-carcases and frozen blocks.
              Strange rules of contractual deliveries. If the buyer, that is, the plant, received bad raw materials from the supplier, he has no right to refuse it. Yes, he calls the supplier, through arbitration they sort things out, the supplier pays a fine. And low-quality raw materials? The plant is obliged (!!!!!!) to process it into sausage or other products...
              Here is what the head of the unified Moscow State Inspectorate for the Quality of Agricultural Products and its Products L, I. Gordienko, told me: “In the 111 quarter of last year, we checked 392,6 tons of raw materials, rejected 306. Bad raw materials are constantly supplied with signs of spoilage, with a greened surface, with yellowed adipose tissue, with a grader Voronezh, Penza, Belgorod, Krasnodar, Kursk agro-industrial complexes. "
              ... From the inspection report of the sausage factory No. 1 of the Moscow Meat Processing Plant by the unified Moscow State Inspectorate for the Quality of Agricultural Products and Products of its Processing for the 111 quarter of 1988 of the year: “... The proper order in the department for packing spices and additives was not put in place. Boxes with spices and bags with additives are located all around the room unsystematically, in bulk. Some packets of ready-made mixed spices are stacked in piles right on the boxes and bags. Packages are not marked; in view of which none of those present could say what kind of sausage they were prepared for.
              The factory violates the requirements of the technological instructions for the production of cooked sausages. So, ascorbic acid is put into the minced meat in a dry form instead of a 5% solution and as before by the volumetric method (enameled mug). Egg powder is also laid by the volumetric method (mug). In addition, at the time of inspection, bags of egg powder were on the wet floor. Salt for salting is not previously weighed, it is added to the raw materials with a bucket. The sodium nitrite solution at the time of the test was in a container without a lock. "
              And if you care about the safety of sausages, then first of all you need to worry about the sanitary condition of the plant. It is terrifying. Everywhere puddles, dirt, ceiling in leaks. For 55 years of its existence, the plant has never stopped for major repairs. All require a plan, plan, plan. And about that. that the plan must include a shift for washing equipment, neither the USSR State Planning Committee nor the USSR Ministry of Trade thought. The main thing is tons of sausages produced daily, and God forbid, at least for a month, stop the plant for repair ...
              In order not to increase the temperature and cooking time of sausages, the equipment must be washed very carefully, and not Aunt Masha should do this, as it is today, but a qualified team of washers equipped with special equipment and detergents. In the meantime, there are no crews, equipment, or appropriate detergents, one salvage bleach for all occasions.

              Full article http://lechebnik.info/513/2.htm

              Everyone was so afraid of responsibility for violating GOST in the USSR ... they were already shaking from fear .....
              And it’s not necessary that it was the late USSR, everything was the same for 55 years and everyone demanded: a plan, a plan, a plan ...
              1. 0
                25 February 2020 14: 09
                Quote: your1970
                but the one that we sold in stores is not necessary for nothing.

                Enough to lie, I never poisoned myself with sausage during the Soviet Union, but my mother was so busy with modern "milk" that after 10 years she was treated for the consequences
                1. 0
                  25 February 2020 15: 45
                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  stop lying never sausage when the Union was not poisoned

                  They lived in Moscow ?? then yes, they might not be repaired .... for you personally
                  Quote: your1970
                  In the 111 quarter of last year, we checked 392,6 tons of raw materials, rejected 306.
                  - that is, 3/4 of the meat turned out to be rotten, banal rotten ....
                  Quote: your1970
                  Strange rules of contractual deliveries. If the buyer, that is, the plant, received bad raw materials from the supplier, he has no right to refuse himI. Yes, he calls the supplier, through arbitration they sort things out, the supplier pays a fine. A poor-quality raw materials? Plant must(!!!!!!) recycle it into sausage or other products ...

                  And it was written in official print organ Ministry of Health of the USSR...
                  And this MOSCOW Mikoyanovsky factory - whose sausage was then transported throughout the country ...

                  Zy you reduce the treatment period after milk poisoning - - and then 10 years smells of bullshit
                  1. -1
                    25 February 2020 16: 01
                    Quote: your1970
                    Did you live in Moscow ??

                    by no means
                    Quote: your1970
                    that is, 3/4 of the meat turned out to be rotten, banal rotten ....

                    what's this?!
                    Quote: your1970
                    And it was written in the official press organ of the USSR Ministry of Health.

                    kindly screen or a link to the relevant order
                    Quote: your1970
                    Zy you reduce the treatment period after milk poisoning - - and then 10 years smells of bullshit

                    you would have such nonsense, they’ve been discharged from the hospital in a month, but the consequences were tormenting you for just a dozen, and even now, after 20 years
                    1. 0
                      25 February 2020 17: 12
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      kindly screen or a link to the relevant order
                      -that is, you didn’t even read my post - just righteous indignation and hysteria were thrown ??? especially for you SECOND just cite the link
                      Quote: your1970
                      appropriate detergents, one life-saving bleach for all occasions.
                      Full article http://lechebnik.info/513/2.htm


                      ALL text after title
                      Quote: your1970
                      1 / 1989 Health Journal
                      "What is the sausage made from?
                      - This is a direct quote from that article ... almost the whole article.

                      But before, "the grass was greener, the sky was blue, and the tar was tastier" - you didn't even read ...
                      1980-1985 .... My mother and my sister (the head of the SES baboratory laboratory) categorically forbade eating our local district preserves and cakes and drinking lemonade - there wasn’t even a conversation about sausage, because anything was planted there, but banal Escherichia coli generally included ... mouse in bottles with lemonade - commonplace ...
                      The SES closed the department of the district consumer union and the creamery by the emid condition - then an order came from the region, the seals were removed like a bunch, they were all removed and the shops began to drive the plan. After a couple of months, a crowd of people again lay in the hospital and again closed the shops ....

                      Plan...and try not to open the shop ...

                      The Mikoyanovsky factory in Moscow worked exactly the same way - as described in the article, making sausage from rotten meat
                      Yes, I agree that later - only a relative worked there in the 70s and told about the same thing about the 70s ...
                      1. -1
                        25 February 2020 20: 27
                        Quote: your1970
                        -there is you did not even read my post

                        Do you really think that someone read this sheet?
                        Quote: your1970
                        http://lechebnik.info/513/2.htm

                        I will greatly disappoint you if I say that this is not quite the article that is written in the journal?
                        in addition, in the same year, Health praises Kashpirovsky, so that I do not advise taking periodicals from the late 80s as the ultimate truth
                        Quote: your1970
                        worked in the 70s and told about the same thing about the 70s ...

                        he told such horror stories, only the truth in them is 50% off
                      2. 0
                        25 February 2020 21: 01
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        he told such horror stories, only the truth in them is 50% off
                        -the problem is that in the shops of our RAIPO I have been to school quite often, there we were part of the practice. What is described in the article "Health" is one hundredth of what we had in 1985-86. The story about rats through a meat grinder is old, but the fact that the meat was lying around without refrigerators, spices were in open buckets, crows periodically flew into the shop (no one could understand how) - the truth is ... the sausage in the stores lay until completely rotten - no one I didn't take it - it was half smoked and cost 6 rubles 20kop. The whole village knew how to make it ...
                        You can sing boobies EGEShny about good products in the USSR - I don’t need .....

                        And yes, there is a question
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        I will greatly disappoint you if I say that this is not quite the article that is written in the journal?

                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        be so kind as to screen or a link to the relevant order
                        - I saw this magazine in three places
                        please - propose the fourth - CORRECT .... I really want to compare ...
                        disprove this line so to speak
                        Quote: your1970
                        “In the 111 quarter of last year, we checked 392,6 tons of raw materials, rejected 306. Constantly supplying poor raw materials with signs of spoilage,


                        and at the same time
                        you first threw a tantrum
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        stop lying never sausage when the Union was not poisoned
                        and then admitted that they didn’t even read
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        Do you really think that someone read this sheet?

                        Hysteria at the sight of someone writing the truth - ugly, but the truth about the USSR?
                      3. -2
                        25 February 2020 22: 25
                        Quote: your1970
                        and then admitted that they didn’t even read

                        stop lying again
                        Quote: your1970
                        Hysteria at the sight of someone writing the truth - ugly, but the truth about the USSR?

                        you stated
                        Quote: your1970
                        if from the oblast buffet, yes ....
                        but the one that we sold in stores - no need to

                        question, have you ever been poisoned by sausage ?!
                      4. 0
                        26 February 2020 00: 26
                        Personally for you, stop talking about mom poisoned with milk 20 years ago ...
                        Stop lying about the inconsistency of the article in the journal Health, you haven’t given a link ...
                        About the poisoned, my classmate in 4th grade died after eating our sausages, did not pump out for intensive care (1980) .. And it was regularly ... until death was no more, but half a class because of the cakes, easily ....
                        Enough of lying about good products in the USSR, have you ever tried rotten rot at vegetable depots? Why did you sell only blue chickens in the USSR?
                        You now throw links to the Soviet feuilleton in the central newspapers about the quality of products? About the theft of these products? Or do you deign to recall Raikin ??
                        Forgot the formula - "Thrown out yesterday !!!!" in its Soviet meaning ???
                      5. -2
                        26 February 2020 08: 05
                        Quote: your1970
                        stop fucking about mom

                        let such nonsense happen to your mom
                        Quote: your1970
                        Stop lying about the inconsistency of the article in the magazine

                        look at the screen of that magazine
                        Quote: your1970
                        About the poisoned, my classmate in 4th grade died after eating our sausages, did not pump out for intensive care (1980) .. And it was regularly ... until death was no more, but half a class because of the cakes, easily ....

                        apparently your knowledge ends on a health magazine
                        Quote: your1970
                        You now throw links to the Soviet feuilleton in the central newspapers about the quality of products?

                        that is, what does it follow that you did not understand, should you quote Zhiglov?

                        By the way, I’m more than sure that you really don’t know the reasons for the poisoning of your classmate, either because the sausage was not of high quality, by the way, only because of the violation of sanitary standards in the school cafeteria, by the way, you somehow bypassed the school number and city
                      6. 0
                        26 February 2020 09: 15
                        For the second time - throw a link to the screen of the magazine article. Without it, your statement about the type of inconsistency is demagogy.
                        I know 200% of the reason for the death of my classmate - I have
                        Quote: your1970
                        Mom (Head of the SES Laboratory)
                      7. -2
                        26 February 2020 09: 37
                        I won’t even waste time if you more carefully selected the material you realized that your article is to say the least ...
                        there are practically no links to it except for blogs, but you just look at the health magazine, No. 1, 1989. What was the problem, it took me 15 minutes including installing the program, there was a non-standard format for viewing
                      8. -1
                        26 February 2020 16: 40
                        Link ....
                      9. 0
                        26 February 2020 17: 04
                        I apologize to your mom - it was wrong. My said - that it is possible, precisely for milk, or salmonella, or (and most likely) - brucellosis. Not cured to the end immediately - a person is sick for the rest of his life
                      10. 0
                        26 February 2020 09: 51
                        Quote: your1970
                        I know 200% of the reason for the death of my classmate - I have

                        name, just do not write nonsense about poisoning with sausage, name the CAUSE of death
    3. +16
      18 February 2020 21: 44
      before his death LIBrezhnev - bury me with my back up - ??? - the time will come when you kiss you.
  2. -14
    18 February 2020 18: 20
    Penza darkness: libraries are our everything laughing
    1. +20
      18 February 2020 18: 33
      Quote: Operator
      Penza darkness: libraries are our everything

      and now go to the library? Or all evening in a box? laughing
      1. -13
        18 February 2020 19: 15
        Jaffa darkness - now the library serves tyrnet laughing
        1. +7
          18 February 2020 21: 22
          Quote: Operator
          now the library is tyrnet

          how many books have you read in tyrnet over the past month?
          1. -19
            18 February 2020 22: 16
            I haven’t read fiction for thirty years, because I have re-read all of it in previous years.
            1. +15
              18 February 2020 22: 58
              it’s clear that it’s really only the bun in the archive, then you don’t trynd about neta which is nonche - library
              1. -25
                18 February 2020 23: 02
                You have clearly beguiled the resource - you have a direct way to discuss the fixin social network in tears, snot and likes.
                1. +12
                  18 February 2020 23: 20
                  Dear, it’s you who have beguiled something by saying that you re-read everything thirty years ago, let me know what exactly?
                  but about snot and everything else, a person who doesn’t have any idea about this is not a person, but a set of functions
                  1. -14
                    19 February 2020 00: 09
                    My young friend - until 1992 I re-read all Russian and European classics, domestic and foreign science fiction, the magazine "Youth", "Foreign Literature", "Literary Gazette", military and literary memoirs, etc.

                    And also "Technology for Youth", "Knowledge is Power", "Science and Life", "Chemistry and Life", "Abroad", "Communist", "Latin America", "ZVO", Russian and translated literature on aviation , astronautics, military equipment and much more.

                    Libraries (including the Internet) are our everything.
                    1. +10
                      19 February 2020 08: 01
                      thanks for the young
                      when they say that "I have read all the Russian and European classics, domestic and foreign science fiction, the magazine" Youth "," Foreign Literature "," Literary Gazette ", military and literary memoirs, etc." this means in fact that I read at best three musketeers
                    2. +6
                      19 February 2020 08: 44
                      Diagonally?
                      1. -5
                        19 February 2020 11: 08
                        No, of course.

                        I have been reading documents diagonally since the beginning of the 1990s, but not like everyone else - the cover of documents is often more informative than their contents, so you need to read every letter.

                        PS Develop the skill of high-speed removal of text information and you will be happy laughing
                    3. 0
                      April 15 2020 14: 37
                      The communist does not need to read. Professor Preobrazhensky does not advise.
      2. +15
        18 February 2020 19: 15
        The library is a WHOLE WORLD! Especially if the classmate’s mother is the main one in that library !!!
        And in higher military educational institutions such cool library, archival funds !!! Such a dream could only be imagined!
        1. +10
          18 February 2020 19: 52
          Quote: rocket757
          The library is a WHOLE WORLD!

          right! I went to the chemical factory library, I read out, Novikov-Priboy, Leonid Sobolev, Tolstoy ...
          1. +13
            18 February 2020 19: 58
            Oh, how difficult it is to send the children of today to books, they strive to find it easier on the internet ... ready-made answers to all questions, no fantasy. If anything is manifested, then sometimes we have to wean them from the battle.
            1. +6
              18 February 2020 20: 00
              Quote: rocket757
              Oh, how difficult it is for the children of today to send books

              that's for sure- everyone strives to drown on the Internet and all they care.
        2. +12
          18 February 2020 20: 11
          Quote: rocket757
          The library is a WHOLE WORLD! Especially if the classmate’s mother is the main one in that library !!!
          And in higher military educational institutions such cool library, archival funds !!! Such a dream could only be imagined!

          I started to read, then I ran through the pictures, read it later, and smelled of the book-library spirit from my memory, as if I had returned to the library for a moment, where all Soviet years were recorded, starting from school. Nostalgia and longing .... crying
          1. +6
            18 February 2020 20: 16
            Everything is fine. Nobody forbids to read ...
            You can reread, the most, the most. Reread recently sea stories and stories Konetsky! It was fun, like many years ago!
      3. +2
        18 February 2020 20: 06
        Quote: Silvestr
        and now go to the library? Or all evening in a box? laughing
        Sylvester, do you prefer parts in a box? wink
        1. +11
          18 February 2020 20: 08
          Quote: sabakina
          Sylvester, and you prefer parts in a box

          Glory! Do not believe me, I do not look at the box! laughing Boring there and sheer nausea. laughing
          1. +4
            18 February 2020 20: 13
            Quote: Silvestr
            Glory! Do not believe it, it is boring there and sheer nausea. laughing
            I can say more. It is dark and cold there. The truth is assured that this does not end there. What to do, everyone will have to check for themselves. feel
            1. +9
              18 February 2020 20: 14
              Quote: sabakina
              I can say more. It is dark and cold there. The truth is assured that this does not end there.

              life goes on and you have to live hi
              1. +9
                18 February 2020 20: 22
                By the way, Sylvester, in spite of the article, I cut out animals, plants, etc. from the "Young Naturalist" magazine. You will laugh, but I liked to cut out clothes and put on paper dolls. I strongly doubt that the current generation would be interested in cutting something out of paper with scissors and glue something somewhere, soiling the pens. Plus I made a periscope according to a drawing from a magazine. Cardboard, two mirrors, and ... that's all. And you don't need to tell me that you also need to have a smart phone to poke buttons!
                1. +11
                  18 February 2020 20: 43
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Plus, I made a periscope from a magazine from a drawing. Cardboard, two mirrors, and ... that's it.

                  childhood was real!
                2. +9
                  18 February 2020 20: 49
                  Quote: sabakina
                  I strongly doubt that the current generation would be interested in cutting something out of paper with scissors and gluing something somewhere, dirty hands.

                  My granddaughter has a lot of paper dolls whose clothes are painted and cut. She is now 17 and understandably, she does not play them. But more recently, she had them boxes. They are now. And some of her friends. Yes, some.
                  1. +3
                    18 February 2020 21: 43
                    Or do you remember, little naked dolls were sold in stores? This is why, when you make a parachute, the doll, with which you could move your hands, descended much more slowly than just cast.
                3. +1
                  19 February 2020 14: 53
                  : Plus, I made a periscope from a magazine from a drawing. Cardboard, two mirrors, and ... that's it.

                  hi The drawing of the periscope was in the Soviet textbook "Natural Science" for the 4th grade! smile I also made periscopes from cardboard and from (cut into a hunt for nothing, cut by a master glazier in a workshop across the road from our house), scraps of waste mirrors.
                  Dad then helped me draw out the cardboard (so that the mirrors were tilted at 45 degrees) and glue the BF glasses. And only then, the whole yard, they played scouts and war with these periscopes ... winked
                  I also really liked "Young Naturalist" - there were such pictures of animals and stories about them! good
            2. +1
              18 February 2020 21: 31
              You will laugh, but nobody got out of it (the box) and did not come back .... What if ???
        2. +2
          18 February 2020 21: 24
          Quote: sabakina
          Sylvester, do you prefer parts in a box?

  3. +21
    18 February 2020 18: 22
    They scattered the soul ... There was an ardent desire to attend the Gorbachev trial. After all, he will escape retribution.
    1. +13
      18 February 2020 18: 32
      Humpback-tagged. And hid. But now everything is complicated. The first leaders should NEVER leave their country, especially at the end of government work. Otherwise, there will always be a stash of zeal. And it must be filled.
    2. +12
      18 February 2020 19: 07
      Quote: Lekz
      They scattered the soul ... There was an ardent desire to attend the Gorbachev trial. After all, he will escape retribution.

      This one will leave. The labeled one will die by his death. I want to see him with a rope around his neck ...
      1. +2
        18 February 2020 19: 16
        No, how tenacious he is.
    3. +5
      18 February 2020 20: 48
      Will not go away .. but there is also God's judgment confidants of debauchery ... Lermontov
      1. +4
        18 February 2020 21: 50
        Quote: Hagakure
        Will not go away .. but there is also God's judgment confidants of debauchery ... Lermontov

        God sees the truth, but he will not soon say ... Leo Tolstoy
        1. 0
          21 February 2020 15: 42
          The Holy Fathers have it - God suffers for a long time, but painfully beats.
    4. +14
      18 February 2020 21: 52
      Quote: Lekz
      They scattered the soul ... There was a burning desire for attend Gorbachev's trial. After all, he will escape retribution.

      He will not live to see the judgment of the people; he will jump to the judgment of God. On the second of March, this Judean woman should be 89 years old, and it was precisely because of his betrayal and cowardice that millions of people died and were not born, and now millions are suffering. If he had saved the USSR, then this American lawlessness and a mess on the planet would not exist now.
      1. +3
        19 February 2020 03: 12
        19 million members of the CPSU, the 5 millionth Soviet army, at least the millionth internal troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not to mention the powerful KGB with secret co-workers, in 1991-92. betrayed their native USSR without a single shot. Where did the leading Communists and Chekists go, maybe they formed the Volunteer Army as the Whites did? To fight for your beloved Soviet Motherland? For the native Soviet power, for socialism, for a single and indivisible USSR? Not at all, they were engaged in privatization, they moved from district and regional committees to offices. The same applies to the masses of ordinary Soviet patriots of Soviet amateurs. Not a single case is known that they went to the Soviet partisans.
        But the fact remains, the Soviet patriots committed mass treason, and the USSR was killed with a stroke of the pen, the Russian Empire died in agony for 5 long years.
        So blame yourself ...
        1. +2
          19 February 2020 06: 51
          Quote: Squelcher
          19 million members of the CPSU, the 5 millionth Soviet army, at least the millionth internal troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not to mention the powerful KGB with secret co-workers, in 1991-92. betrayed their native USSR without a single shot. Where did the leading Communists and Chekists go, maybe they formed the Volunteer Army as the Whites did? To fight for your beloved Soviet Motherland? For the native Soviet power, for socialism, for a single and indivisible USSR? Not at all, they were engaged in privatization, they moved from district and regional committees to offices. The same applies to the masses of ordinary Soviet patriots of Soviet amateurs. Not a single case is known that they went to the Soviet partisans.

          But now many people stigmatize those who write this and mold them with disadvantages. Only then there were already fewer members of the CPSU. 16 it seems. Many have already "fled" ...
  4. +13
    18 February 2020 18: 25
    We also received “anti-social information,” but I will tell you next time how and in what way.
    Thanks to Vyacheslav for the article! It is interesting to recall the past tense and, at times, it becomes sad from the fact that now children have completely different values ​​and interests, as well as channels for receiving information. I don’t even want to talk about Poland and international communication! In short, Vyacheslav, thanks! smile
    1. +6
      18 February 2020 20: 26
      Quote: businessv
      In short, Vyacheslav, thanks!

      I join, I read the article, as if I had escaped as a child. I caught myself on the fact that while I was reading, I was smiling all the time, because of the coincidence in what I was reading at about the same time, about seventy percent. Thanks Vyacheslav.
      1. +9
        18 February 2020 21: 49
        Glad I gave you pleasure. I like to look at smiling people!
        1. +3
          18 February 2020 21: 59
          Thank you for an excellent article, it is a pity that now there is no "Pionerskaya Pravda". I would put your article there on the first page. good
        2. +7
          19 February 2020 06: 34
          Vyacheslav hi Thank you for the article! good
          I will share my memories with these.

          1. +1
            21 February 2020 16: 05
            Well, what about desk books. But he took these in the library. There was no home.
            1. +2
              21 February 2020 19: 12
              You would be surprised how much work it took for me (the kid even then) to get this copy. Mom still remembers how the library collector negotiated. I am still grateful to her that she "got it", then there was no other way.
              1. +1
                21 February 2020 19: 22
                I really believe it. Mom also "got" books for me. And there was also a store on the outskirts of Penza that sold science fiction. In winter, there is 2 hours, from there 2 hours (I walked on foot, since the bus rarely went there). So I bought ...
                1. +2
                  21 February 2020 19: 29
                  I relied more on the library, 10 minutes walk and in the kingdom of literature. Palace of Culture Melange Combine - children's, adult libraries and a reading room. Expansion for mental work. Unfortunately, now this is another shopping center. The children were left only to watch smarts. And there are "suicide clubs" negative
                  Vyacheslav, mention these books in the next article, I beg you. Yes
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2020 19: 31
                    No, I have a beautiful youth library near my house, and a children's library nearby ... Everything is intact, a lot of interesting events are being held, I am simply amazed by the inexhaustible optimism of their workers.
                    1. +2
                      21 February 2020 19: 36
                      You are lucky, and with us all cultural heritage was quickly put into business. Library funding was cut off first. And the plant now looks more like the ruins of Dresden in the 45th.
  5. +12
    18 February 2020 18: 26
    Golden childhood. My parents did not forbid anything - write out what magazines you want. Go to whatever sections you want. He loved handball and was engaged in tourism in a tourist club. The library was my friend. I reread all the adventure and fantastic stories. Scrap metal collected, as well as waste paper. Now it all depends on the parents - what they will be able to put in the child’s head. There is no need to rely on school, society and the state
  6. +2
    18 February 2020 18: 26
    The main essence of claims to socialism is the impossibility of personal enrichment (accumulation of values). You can enrich yourself in 2 ways: at the expense of your personal abilities (mind / straight hands) or at the expense of other people - with various legal / illegal tricks.
    Until socialism solves the problem of personal enrichment (and it is banned there), the new project will not take off.
    1. +4
      18 February 2020 18: 58
      Not so. Everything is much more complicated.
    2. +21
      18 February 2020 19: 38
      Quote: lucul
      Until socialism solves the problem of personal enrichment (and it is banned there), the new project will not take off.

      1. In socialism, enrichment is impossible. That's for sure. And it is right. But here you have to understand. what enrichment means. Three-storey palaces, "Bentleys", golden toilet bowls, personal Salvador Dali ... Summer cottages in the Canary Islands .... - It is almost impossible to make money with simple labor.
      2. Showwomen, football players, devil lawyers, just gangsters - should these characters represent the successful people of the country?
      3. It may be right to attract money into the profession, but this does not allow to grow staff for particularly complex professions - university professors, super doctors, scientists of academic research areas ... It is much more important to have public recognition and respect for the altruistic way of life.
      4. The topic is not for solving an ideological problem. But the emergence of ideological nostalgia is natural. In the USSR, there was a deep understanding of people's interest in high: high science, high art, better education, unique technology, the desire to work in teams that are unique in terms of culture and education. Accordingly, the children were prepared for a bright future (without any ernism) - as they could ...
      5. Article +++++ Everything is familiar and everything is loved. Only the first TV we have is different, I don't really remember, it seems "Zenith" - a big bandura with a small screen. And broadcasting on 2 channels - the central and favorite Leningrad.
      "Model constructors" did not throw away ....
      1. +5
        18 February 2020 20: 41
        Quote: Sergey S.
        it doesn’t allow to grow personnel for especially complex professions - university professors,

        He worked at the Higher School from 1982 to 2017 ... I strongly disagree with you! And by the way, how long have you worked in it?
        1. +10
          18 February 2020 20: 50
          Quote: kalibr
          And by the way, how long have you worked in it?

          Since 1981 ....
          Today with young cadres is very difficult.
          Already 50-year-olds have not seen productions in 3 shifts.
          Basically, they try to defend dissertations without any connection with real production.
          The level of creativity at the level - a ride ....
          Equal to idiotic criteria like WoS ...

          Plus, the real problems of industry .... which in engineering resembles shagreen leather.
          So where there is iron - only old people go into battle!
          1. +2
            18 February 2020 20: 57
            Oh, we mean colleagues. But ... here I do not agree with your conclusion.
      2. -1
        18 February 2020 21: 17
        . In socialism, enrichment is impossible. That's for sure. And it is right.

        So have already passed - one with a bipod and seven with a spoon ....
        I do not like the idea of ​​working hard without straightening my back - but getting exactly the same amount as parasites doing nothing.
      3. BAI
        +1
        18 February 2020 22: 05
        It may be right to attract money into the profession, but this does not allow to grow staff for particularly complex professions - university professors, super doctors, scientists of academic research areas.

        Absolutely wrong. If these professions are highly paid and prestigious - there will be a competition and the best ones will be selected. And now old seniors from Soviet times are sitting in universities all over the place - not a step away from the lecture, girls only get credit if they come in a miniskirt. And if someone doesn’t like something, the students instantly survive from the institute, especially if he (she) is a state employee.
        1. +3
          19 February 2020 06: 48
          Quote: BAI
          And then now in universities all the time senile old seniors from Soviet times

          And there are a lot of YOUNG LADIES, that’s what is strange. Not so very old. Granddaughter goes to college ... every now and then meets such! Especially the women!
        2. 0
          20 February 2020 23: 05
          Quote: BAI
          And now old seniors from Soviet times are sitting in universities all over the place - not a step away from the lecture, girls only get credit if they come in a miniskirt.

          The old senility you described are clearly not Soviet teachers ...
          I can’t vouch for everyone, but they weren’t held in good universities.
          1. 0
            21 February 2020 16: 07
            Quote: Sergey S.
            The old senility you described are clearly not Soviet teachers ...
            I can’t vouch for everyone, but they weren’t held in good universities.

            And which ones? From Mars? In all universities there are and were both good and bad. The difference is only in%.
    3. +12
      18 February 2020 20: 08
      Personal enrichment is always at the expense of neighbors in society. Directly or indirectly. These are the laws of the market. But achieving a qualitatively better standard of living is all about working together. It was because of these "beavers" who dreamed of personal enrichment in the first place - and the USSR collapsed. Part of the party elite wanted to live as "masters of the West", part of the population for some reason imagined that they would be taken aboard in the "bright capitalist future." The bottom line is that future generations have NO future. At the moment, not visible.
      1. +1
        18 February 2020 20: 12
        Quote: andrew42
        The result is that future generations have NO future.

        It is your opinion. Young people have something else ...
        1. +7
          18 February 2020 20: 23
          Of course, this is my personal opinion. Young people are optimistic and perky a priori. The flag is in her hands in the best sense. But I'm talking about young people with critical thinking. Those who run after new gadgets like a donkey chasing a hanging carrot are young people that I don't even consider. At least the older children, who are 19 years old, are in many ways in solidarity with me. Especially when I am on my own face to face with the current "bright capitalist paradise" in education, medicine and generally at the beginning of an independent adult life.
        2. +4
          18 February 2020 20: 29
          Did the youth tell you this? And what is it now, its future?
          1. +2
            18 February 2020 20: 37
            Yes, imagine. And its future is different, which it will choose itself, and not the party and the Komsomol. And they like it. I was in the 10th grade of one of the schools. Specially asked about the Swedish girl and "Urengoy Kolya" and what did they basically tell me? "But what does it matter what they said? The main thing is that they expressed their opinion, were not afraid and that they have it!" Like this! It is important for them to have their own opinion, and which is not so important!
            1. +14
              18 February 2020 20: 51
              Their words do not mean anything because of their childhood. Let's see how they will express their "opinion" to the employer in case of the threat of dismissal. Their future is really different, from office plankton to collectors of aluminum cans. In the 10th grade, schoolchildren still have a "happy childhood" paid for by their parents. By the way, why does this not suit you the way that the party and the Komsomol pointed out in the early 70s (to work for the good of your country)? I have not seen anything wrong with this path, although I have never been a member of the party.
              1. +3
                18 February 2020 21: 43
                Quote: Aviator_
                By the way, why doesn’t this suit you the way that the party and the Komsomol indicated in the early 70s (working for the good of their country)?

                The way was fine. I was not satisfied with inadequate wages. It's one thing that the owner is underpaid. I understand him. Another is the state writing slogans on the fences "Everything for the good of man." All? And here are the figurines. I don't like being deceived. It's better as it is now, honestly: I have money, you don't - I order you, and not vice versa. Or I have a mind, you have money. You need me - we are bargaining ... And then it was impossible to bargain. Moreover, any drunken squalor considered itself a "hygemon".
                1. +3
                  18 February 2020 21: 46
                  Clear. They did not agree on the price of wages.
              2. +2
                18 February 2020 21: 47
                Quote: Aviator_
                In the 10th grade, schoolchildren still have a "happy childhood" paid for by their parents.

                Are you not happy with the school? Until 2017, he worked with students ... Many worked ... and opinions differed very little.
                1. +7
                  18 February 2020 21: 50
                  I have been working with students since 1993 and up to now. I head the Department of Physics. There are good guys, some then I take to my office, but there are a whole bunch of those who still have a "happy childhood". Did you mean them?
                  1. +1
                    19 February 2020 06: 45
                    Quote: Aviator_
                    Did you mean them?

                    They are people too! And many will settle down in life no worse than you and me.
                    1. +5
                      19 February 2020 08: 07
                      In my life I have not "settled down", there is no need to apply such a term to me here. And what is "not worse"? Will they receive more money? It is to receive, not to earn, these are different concepts. And what kind of "people" they are, their life will show when the "happy childhood" ends. It, such a childhood, of course, is necessary, but if it ends only at 23, then this is a pathology.
                      1. -1
                        19 February 2020 12: 31
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        It is to receive, not to earn, these are different concepts.

                        Would you refuse to receive a rich inheritance? Would you transfer it to the state for "good deeds"?
                      2. +1
                        19 February 2020 19: 03
                        Yes, I would refuse. I never dreamed of free money. I never had a dream to get unearned money. I'm sorry.
                      3. +1
                        20 February 2020 17: 39
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        Yes, I would refuse. I never dreamed of free money. I never had a dream to get unearned money. I'm sorry.

                        Well, you never know abnormal in the world ... Although it is rather this coquetry. Here they say what I am. Really ... they take everything. If possible. And whoever doesn’t take it, then regrets it all his life.
                      4. 0
                        20 February 2020 19: 14
                        Do not measure others by yourself. He himself admitted that going to Marxist-Leninists turned out to be more profitable in a financial sense than broadcasting about modeling on Penza TV. And I never cheated on my childhood dreams. You seem to be too. Only they are different with us.
                      5. +1
                        21 February 2020 16: 11
                        As soon as a person unfamiliar to me personally switches to "you", it becomes obvious either his anger, or inferiority, or lack of elementary culture.
                      6. 0
                        21 February 2020 17: 26
                        But where do we techies understand the culture, vulnerability, depth and subtlety of the inner world of party propagandists.
                      7. +2
                        21 February 2020 18: 05
                        Of course, I, like every person, have my shortcomings. But what cannot be taken away from me is the fact that during my entire stay at VO I have never, under any circumstances, "poked" anyone.
                      8. 0
                        21 February 2020 21: 58
                        There was nothing to accuse me of "coquetry", and of "abnormality", so I got it. The question of money is a matter of principle.
            2. +3
              18 February 2020 21: 13
              Quote: kalibr
              And its future is different, which it will choose, and not the party and the Komsomol.

              ====
              for the most part it’s the same, to earn a living, not especially or not at all wrapping up ways and means.
        3. +9
          18 February 2020 20: 30
          The problem of fathers and children was, is and will be. BUT, when the consumer is raised from toddlerhood, forget about the future! By the way, I remember my first TV set as "Record 6" ...
          1. +8
            18 February 2020 20: 40
            That's right. Consumerism is the way of death of any society, any community of people, at all times, the only question is in the circumstances and in the speed of decomposition, and accordingly, in the speed of population decline.
          2. +8
            18 February 2020 20: 45
            Quote: sabakina
            when consumers grow up from toddler, forget about the future!

            that's for sure! and what power does!
            1. +7
              18 February 2020 21: 21
              Consumer! For knowledge, giving new scientists time means no. The country needs professional personnel, the tops need consumers. The nuance is obtained. Mismatch, between the needs of the country and the top, however.
              1. 0
                21 February 2020 16: 13
                Quote: Sergey Olegovich
                The country needs professional personnel, the tops need consumers.

                Does one interfere with the other? Can not a literate consumer be a competent specialist?
        4. +2
          18 February 2020 20: 37
          Demography, caring for the elderly on the part of the state (real, and not emasculated to penny indexes, not declared), caring for children by the same state (in general, a healthy state is a public institution, not a private shop) - all this in the current state does not allow to radiate optimism. We are "dying out", therefore it was about generations, about tendencies, and not about assessments in the minds of young people in current real time.
      2. 0
        18 February 2020 21: 13
        Personal enrichment is always at the expense of neighbors in society. Directly or indirectly. These are the laws of the market.

        Who is this written for?
        You can enrich yourself in 2 ways: at the expense of your personal abilities (mind / straight hands) or at the expense of other people - with various legal / illegal tricks.

        If it is not clear, the first method is always welcome, but the second method can be severely limited.
        You see only a way of illegal enrichment .....
        1. +3
          18 February 2020 22: 10
          What laws of enrichment are we talking about? The Third Reich, the Polish interventionists of 1610-12, the Khazar Kaganate, Elizabeth of England, Guillaume Norman - they also had the LAWS of enrichment. Own. This is not about enrichment in general, but about "common prey" in advance of "a personal piece" to the detriment of a comrade. Otherwise, you will be left without a comrade, and someone else's consortium will devour the short-sighted merchant. We have to explain it primitively, in order to avoid distortion of meanings.
    4. +6
      18 February 2020 20: 32
      Vitaly, count how many "Victories" you could buy for the Stalin Prize.
      People earned money with their own hands, brains, and not the exploitation of their neighbor.
      The disadvantage of socialism, in particular, was the deficit. As it has now become clearly artificial.
      As Raikin said (miniature EARLY Zhvanetsky "Deficit"):
      ... You bought, I bought, we do not love him - he also bought. All bought.
      We all walk boring, pale, yawn. The zavsklad is going on - we do not notice it. Director of the store - we spit on him! Commodity expert shoe department - as a simple engineer! It's good? It's disgusting! Let there be abundance, let it be all! But let something be missing!
      The so-called current business was considered speculation. And in fact it is.
      Resellers in the markets. Seafood is processed in China, books are printed in China ...
      I remember that in the RSFSR, the USSR, book publishing houses were in almost every area.
      Yes, the author forgot about KVN.
      And "Ural Pathfinder". During the Soviet era, this magazine, without exaggeration, was (at least) a SOYUZNY level. Then it was a regular regional publication.
      Communism passed, but we did not notice.
      PS True, enterprise was suppressed. One Japanese published a book in his book, which included various useful tips from the journals listed by visitors. And he became a millionaire.
    5. +4
      18 February 2020 22: 06
      Quote: lucul
      The main essence of claims to socialism is the impossibility of personal enrichment (accumulation of values). You can enrich yourself in 2 ways: at the expense of your personal abilities (mind / straight hands) or at the expense of other people - with various legal / illegal tricks.
      Until socialism solves the problem of personal enrichment (and she is banned there) - the new project will not take off.
      China decided, in spite of the communist ideology, by crossing the planned and capitalist models of the economy, allowing the collective to compete with the private. Our "reformers" chose a different path - the complete destruction of the collective in favor of the private. Having had enough of the prostitutes, we have now outlined the process of returning to cooperation, because it is easier to survive together. Only in order to understand this, unlike China, we lost 30 years, while for the same 30 years it improved the resulting "hybrid" into a successful economy. hi
  7. +17
    18 February 2020 18: 30
    Model designer, a magazine that influenced my career guidance no less than Novikov and Pikul. With what impatience, I, as a passionate ship modeller, then waited for his appearance in the mailbox ...
    1. +8
      18 February 2020 19: 19
      Magazines are not outdated and now !!!
      Everything is clear there and everything must be done OWN HANDS !!!
      I use it now, when teaching Maltsev, all sorts of useful skills ... like many others of my childhood and youth!
      Thanks to father for collecting all this.
      1. +7
        18 February 2020 23: 12
        Quote: rocket757
        Magazines are not outdated and now !!!
        Everything is clear there and everything must be done OWN HANDS !!!
        I use it now, when teaching Maltsev, all sorts of useful skills ... like many others of my childhood and youth!
        Thanks to father for collecting all this.

        I also have an annual filing of the journal "Crafts and Crafts" from 1929, I keep it like the apple of my eye, because the technical solutions that are set out in them are simple, accessible and relevant to this day. It is noteworthy that in each magazine, on the last page, new publications were published for villagers and villages, to which one could subscribe, which runs counter to the fact that modern "historians" present the time as the "genocide" of the village. I'll insert some photos



    2. +7
      18 February 2020 19: 53
      Quote: romey
      Model Designer

      They said that the Japanese then subscribed to our magazines in search of ideas.
      1. +5
        18 February 2020 20: 10
        They offered to buy an archive of failed inventions ... We did not sell!
        1. +10
          18 February 2020 20: 13
          Quote: kalibr
          They offered to buy an archive of failed inventions ... We did not sell!

          The USSR is the birthplace of staplers in surgery, now you can only buy from abroad, fiber optics are our invention, now you need to bring gastroscopes from behind the hillock
      2. +7
        18 February 2020 21: 26
        Quote: Silvestr
        It was said that the Japanese then subscribed to our magazines in search of ideas

        I heard the same thing, they said then they patented them and tried them like Japanese inventions.
      3. BAI
        +4
        18 February 2020 22: 09
        subscribed to our magazines in search of ideas.

        "Science and Life" - section "Little Tricks".
        1. +1
          19 February 2020 05: 17
          Oh yeah!!! "Science and Life" is generally a classic of the genre of popular science literature!
          In my opinion, he was ahead of his time by many years!
          Maybe his aliens published, they wanted to pull us up a level higher ???
          What would they not say, but the SOVIET PEOPLE, at that time, was the most dynamically developing in many respects. It is unfortunate that the experiment was interrupted .... these were definitely / are the machinations of another, no less sophisticated mind.
          1. +2
            19 February 2020 06: 39
            Quote: rocket757
            SOVIET PEOPLE, at that time, was the most dynamically developing in many respects. It is unfortunate that the experiment was interrupted .... these were definitely / are the machinations of another, no less sophisticated mind.

            I completely agree with you, Victor!
            1. +2
              19 February 2020 07: 20
              I'd like to convey to others that the phrase SOVIET MAN has a deep meaning, which must be conveyed to the descendants! Because what they are trying to slap from our children is now meaningless and hopeless !!!
  8. ABM
    +6
    18 February 2020 18: 33
    I read it with pleasure, I remembered a lot about my childhood, a lot like
  9. +12
    18 February 2020 18: 56
    I remembered this issue of "Technics-Youth" for 1968 with planes. We had a common attic with our neighbors, and there were a lot of wonderful magazines in there. "TM", "Around the World", "Ural Pathfinder", "Science and Life", "Sergeant Major", even "Niva" for 1906, 1915. So I had a lot to read.
    1. ABM
      +2
      18 February 2020 21: 56
      Until now, the Model Designer and Technique of Youth in the library are available! I appreciate their sincerity in the presentation of the material and the accuracy in the wording
  10. +7
    18 February 2020 19: 16
    Vcheslav Olegovich !! taking off my hat hi
  11. +10
    18 February 2020 19: 18
    My uncle wrote out both the modeler and the youth technique, came to him in a village (not far from Alma-Ata), sat down at a stack of magazines (starting from the age of 10) and that’s all, the world no longer existed. Science and life are also valued.
  12. +8
    18 February 2020 19: 24
    Yes, I also grew up on a Model Designer, Youth Technician, etc. Wonderful magazines! Oh! I remember this cover of the Model Designer, from the illustration of the author of the article, even though I saw it already in the early 90s, but still I then chose my wife by comparing ...
    1. +13
      18 February 2020 19: 55
      Quote: author-words
      ... then he chose his wife by comparing ...

      At first I thought - bust.
      I re-read it and agreed. Our ideas about girls were high!
      And the girls !!!!
      I somehow got excited and said in a youth environment:
      - And our girls had flat stomachs, - they were engaged in sports, active rest. - skis, skates, volleyball. swimming....

      He married a classmate at the age of 19, we still live ... Not much is left until the gold ...
      Trumpeted the soul ...
  13. +8
    18 February 2020 19: 28
    Like everyone who unsubscribed, I also read it with pleasure and remembered ... Although I am older than Vyacheslav (when he was accepted as a pioneer, I had already graduated from school), it was all the same, almost all the same books and magazines were read. Only the book "Stories of an Aircraft Designer" (the second, supplemented edition in a chic dust jacket; the first small edition was published back in 1950) I bought in 1958 in a bookstore on Zagorodnaya Street in Vladivostok. I went to buy "The Fifteen-Year-Old Captain's Companion" (before that I was only fond of the fleet: I lived near the Golden Horn), and after I bought both wonderful books, I swallowed "Stories" - I began to get involved in aviation. My two loves for life. In addition to orienteering, rock climbing, mountain tourism, mountains and floriculture.
  14. +7
    18 February 2020 19: 34
    The bike was assembled according to the design seen in the young technique ...
    Just think, all this was literally a couple, three decades ago. So unshakable and proud with confidence in the future! It seemed that everything is possible, everything is feasible ....
  15. +9
    18 February 2020 19: 37
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich! Despite the difference of 20 years, childhood prevailed.
  16. +5
    18 February 2020 19: 38
    http://utechnik.ru/category/ut/
    Young technician and not only online and by subscription!
  17. +4
    18 February 2020 20: 13
    When will the sequel be?
    1. +5
      18 February 2020 20: 18
      Will be. And when? When there is a mood ... Such articles are not so easy to write. And then, they already ordered me here - "about the Ainu", "about the Indians", "about the food of the knights" ... It's about the Ainu, about the Indians ... almost. About the food of the knights - oh, some thoughts ...
      1. BAI
        +1
        18 February 2020 22: 11
        About the food of the knights - oh, just thoughts ...

        And what? You already had an article on this topic here.
        1. +2
          19 February 2020 06: 38
          Quote: BAI
          You already had an article on this topic here.

          It was. Still asking!
  18. +6
    18 February 2020 20: 18
    Well, what can I say from what I read? While it is not clear to me where the author is driving. I hope he does not teach bad.
    I'm from a generation rather eighties. At least in '82 I went to school.
    Honestly ... I don’t even know what to discuss ... With whom, why swear ...
    Magazines TM and MK- were my handbook. They were written out by my older brothers, and then I supported this tradition as far as possible. Our family has always been closer to engineering than to agriculture.
    Although I did not understand half of what was written, I remember the pictures even now.
    1. +5
      18 February 2020 20: 50
      For all the foregoing, it can only be said that the lack of information made our brains work. As was the case with our generation-born in 60-70 years. When we got a number of Technics-Youths, we almost fought at a school container with waste paper. And now, an excess of information, and in many ways not needed and parasitic, is confusing our youth, which by and large is not involved in anything.
      1. +2
        18 February 2020 21: 04
        Here, yes. Then I agree.
        What to do? New time, new songs.
        I then did the lessons in a fundamentally different way than today my child.
      2. +4
        18 February 2020 21: 23
        Now yes. New time, new songs. Now my daughter is doing her lessons in a fundamentally different way than I did at the time.
        I drew my thesis on a Whatman paper with my own hand using a ruler and "simple" pencils. And two more members with crooked hands.
        Now I’m afraid, with such fixes on me as on .... They’ll look.
  19. +4
    18 February 2020 20: 43
    It is strange that the author did not mention the magazine "Young Technician", which was much more informative than the Polish "Horizons of Technology". "Horizons" was boring, it felt like it was aimed at a different audience, not ours, but Polish. An example - there was a story where a father explained to poorly studied children that it was necessary to study, that it was interesting, and if they were lazy, then after leaving school with poor grades, let them go to put tiles on a construction site or paint fences, both of which - not in a construction office as well as individuals. It was the presence of such private traders in Poland that seemed very strange to me. At the end of the story, the children stated that they would study well and enter the Polytechnic Institute. It was thanks to the "Young Technician" that I first entered the ZFTSh (correspondence physics school), in UT there was a page "Club XYZ", which was led by students and teachers of physics and technology. After ZFTSh he entered MIPT, in the same place, in the mid-70s, he himself checked the work of schoolchildren from ZFTSH. There was also a supplement to the magazine "Around the World" called "Seeker". There was a mass of wonderful fiction of the 60s - the Strugatskys, Dneprov, Gansovsky, Mier ...
    1. +4
      18 February 2020 20: 53
      Sergei, you are not reading carefully. Just about "Technician ..." is there.
    2. +3
      18 February 2020 20: 54
      Quote: Aviator_
      An example - there was a story where a father explained to poorly studied children that it was necessary to learn, that it was interesting, and if they were too lazy, then after graduation from school with bad grades they go to lay tiles on a construction site or paint fences, and both of them are not in the construction office but as individuals.

      I also remember this story - funny. And about how they caught a thief stealing apples - remember?
      1. +4
        18 February 2020 20: 58
        I don’t remember about apples, I had only a couple of "Horizons", bought in "Soyuzpechat" on the way from school. In this kiosk I always asked "Seeker" and "Young Technician". Something has survived to this day. Yes, you really wrote about UT, I missed it.
    3. +7
      18 February 2020 21: 30
      Quote: Aviator_
      the author did not mention the magazine "Young Technician"

      there was also a Polish magazine for modeling aircraft
      1. +5
        18 February 2020 21: 39
        Maly modelarz and Modelarz. Cool, but terribly scarce. Especially the last one. It contained the blueprints of ships of foreign fleets, which we have with fire on the day ... I remember a week sitting on the tracing paper of the battleship Idaho and the aircraft carrier Essex, borrowed by the head of the magazine circle ...
        1. Fat
          -1
          20 February 2020 16: 14
          Quote: romey
          Maly modelarz and Modelarz. Cool, but terribly scarce. Especially the last one. It contained the blueprints of ships of foreign fleets, which we have with fire on the day ... I remember a week sitting on the tracing paper of the battleship Idaho and the aircraft carrier Essex, borrowed by the head of the magazine circle ...

          Small model - this cut for paper models was written out until the 90s. And since these models were built, only covers and assembly schemes remained ...)))
      2. +5
        18 February 2020 21: 41
        I did not come across this magazine in Orenburg in the mid-60s, while Tekhnika-Molodyozhi, Yuniy Tekhnik and Nauka i Zhizn were my main magazines. The latter is a little later, closer to the senior classes.
  20. +8
    18 February 2020 20: 52
    To the author of the article good
    I plunged right into my childhood. Thanks for the article, we look forward to continuing.
  21. BAI
    +4
    18 February 2020 21: 54
    If there is a "Young Technician", then why not a word about the addition to it "UT for Skillful Hands", and about "Trowel" ("Trowel")?
    1. +2
      18 February 2020 22: 35
      What can I talk about if I drove classmates and my daughter and my son into a stupor with this elementary task. But the answer of one of them simply killed me: Why do I need this?
    2. +2
      19 February 2020 06: 37
      Продолжение следует ...
  22. +6
    18 February 2020 23: 22
    Quote: rocket757
    Everything is fine. Nobody forbids to read ...
    You can reread, the most, the most. Reread recently sea stories and stories Konetsky! It was fun, like many years ago!

    And I recently reread Sanin.

    Thank you, Vyacheslav, for the article. As a child, returned for a few minutes. Yes, but our generation has many coincidences in perception. I don’t know the interest, but probably 80-90 percent

    Quote: kalibr
    And I must say that the programs were just excellent - adults would listen to them now! “Club of famous captains” (“In the rustle of mice, in the creak of floorboards, we slowly and dignifiedly leave the pages. The caftans rustle, someone's sword rings, we are all captains, everyone is famous!”).

    Quite right. And when he became older he often listened to the program, it seems on Wednesday or Thursday, at about 9-9.30 pm. It was called "Meeting a Song". How many new things were discovered.

    Quote: kalibr
    By the way, I heard about Gagarin’s flight on the radio, sitting at home due to slushy spring and bad weather.

    So do I. Only the day was sunny. I was sitting in the kitchen with my grandparents (my parents were then in Germany, in the GSVG). Extra-deep voice of Levitan, from which goosebumps: "Moscow is speaking ..." During these few seconds I drew attention to the faces of my grandmother and grandfather. They "turned to stone". For them, the voice of Levitan has always been associated with war (and they survived the occupation). And only when the words were heard that there was a man in orbit, the faces began to "thaw"

    Quote: Silvestr
    right! I went to the chemical factory library, I read out, Novikov-Priboy, Leonid Sobolev, Tolstoy ...

    In the library, like everything was recorded (in the House of Officers), but not many books scattered from there. One, maximum two. And even those who were not at home. The library of the house was small, three thousand volumes. Now, probably, I have also added several thousand e-books, because everything was impossible to buy, and in the 90s it was not before that.
    Now I read, mostly electronic, for relaxation, for the soul. What I was lucky that my daughter instilled a love of reading.
    1. +3
      19 February 2020 06: 36
      Dear Vladimir! Glad you like it. And what did you write about the percentage of coincidence ... And since you like to read e-books, here's information for you. I have an electronic novel, "People and Weapons". Historical, very interesting. You can find it at author.today. You will not regret!
      1. +3
        19 February 2020 16: 07
        Vyacheslav, hello and best wishes. hi
        At one time I read Aldridge's "Mountains and Weapons", there is everything about the problems of the Kurds, and what business you have, or is it just the ratio of "man - gun"?
        By the way, about the robot from the movie "Planet of Storms", he is an American and his real name is John, but he responded, the viper, exclusively to the polite address "dear John".
        - Dear John, what is the position of your companions?
        - The position of my companions is horizontal.
        In short, the people fell into a blackout. laughing
        The robot was indeed American, and its creator, an American, of course, came with it to the shooting of the film. Both of them appeared on our TV and I remember this program well as the robot's program statement that: "I am a free-thinking machine of the free United States of America", he said in Russian, unlike his creator.
        In the film, the American astronaut was played by our actor, I don't remember who exactly. But I remember his phrase that literally blew up the movie "Mir", to the question of one of the heroes "Well, how could she not figure it out?", The American replied: "A robot can figure it out, but not a woman ..." Stormy and prolonged applause with general laughter .)))
        Yes, another mystery was the gun for me, with which our filmmakers armed a staffer. Three times I looked to figure it out. About ten years later I found out - it was the gun of Hugo Borchard arr. 1893 (K-93). Funny, is not it? Borchard and space ... in a word - cinema. smile
        1. +1
          19 February 2020 16: 16
          Good afternoon! You, Konstantin, do not be lazy, go to the site, look at the annotation to it. What am I going to spread here ... I’m sure that you will like it.
          1. 0
            19 February 2020 16: 20
            Which site, Vyacheslav?
            1. +1
              19 February 2020 16: 21
              author.today. There is my novel "People and Weapons" + an annotation to it + "pictures to it". Everyone is there! By the way, there will soon be a book "specially for you"!
              1. +1
                19 February 2020 17: 37
                What about the title of a book that is "special for me"?
                1. +1
                  19 February 2020 19: 03
                  "Life and Adventures of the Barsi Cat". But it has not yet been posted.
                  1. 0
                    19 February 2020 19: 05
                    Ahhh .............. And I thought about the trunks. But about cats, too, is interesting. smile
                    1. +1
                      20 February 2020 16: 05
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      And I thought about trunks

                      About trunks - "People and weapons"!
                      1. 0
                        20 February 2020 16: 19
                        Already jumped on the site to see, download and read.
                      2. +1
                        20 February 2020 17: 01
                        Then I’m sure to write your opinion in PM. Or on the site. Your opinion will be interesting.
  23. +3
    18 February 2020 23: 35
    Quote: Aviator_
    There was also a supplement to the magazine "Around the World" called "Seeker". There was a mass of wonderful fiction of the 60s - the Strugatskys, Dneprov, Gansovsky, Mier ...

    The Finder was the most scarce magazine. Near my work (next to the faculty buildings) there was a Soyuzpechat kiosk, where this magazine was received in an amount of 5-10 copies. It was very difficult to "catch" him.
    True, I recently downloaded all the magazines "Seeker", "Tekhnika Molodezhi". TM, however, except for the last two years. All hands do not reach. And the first acquaintance with the magazines "TM" and "Ogonyok" occurred in early childhood. Before leaving for the service in the GSVG, my father wrote Ogonyok for 5-7 years starting in 1950, TM for 1956-1958. Moreover, he intertwined "Ogonyok" into volumes. It was terribly interesting to watch them. And in TM, materials about the prospects were often printed. I remember the drawings of the cities of the 2000s. Needle-shaped and pyramid-shaped buildings (the latter are even in section, where and what they have in this pyramid), drop-shaped machines, atomic and ionic planes ...
    By the way, the famous novel by Efremov "The Andromeda Nebula" began to read in the TM magazine.
  24. +2
    19 February 2020 07: 33
    A good article, thank you to the author .... yes, I read, smiled, remembered how I went to the library reading room on Saturdays or Sundays and read books that were rare or in short supply, and they didn’t give them hands in the subscriber room, as I personally hung strong the lock on the mailbox, so that the youth’s equipment, science and life would not be stolen .... as I received from my father for stealing gunpowder, which was used when making a makeshift mine with a remote fuse ...... by the way they burst)))))
  25. +3
    19 February 2020 08: 35
    The cover of the "Modelist - Constructor" magazine was simply pleasing. 1968 and light erotica. laughing
  26. -7
    19 February 2020 08: 48
    Again Shpakovsky sausages. Boringly.
  27. -1
    19 February 2020 12: 39
    Darkness ..... hopeless. As in Nekrasov's poem "Who Lives Well in Russia". No longer serfs, but not free, but "temporarily obligated" - are discussing which master is better? Old "red" al new "white"? And many are inclined to think that the former master was not so bad.
    That young, that old, one hell - everything seemed to come from the 18th century ...........

    Also A.M. Gorky in the article "On the Russian peasantry" contains lines on the topic of the complete identity of the people in the 17th and 20th centuries ... and now, as you can see, in the 21st the same.
    Turgenev also wrote: "Nowhere does time run so fast as in Russia; in prison, they say, it runs even faster." RUSSIAN SOCIETY - OUT OF TIME.
  28. +3
    19 February 2020 12: 49
    I was at Kuzmich's at a distant cordon. Found a binder of the magazine "Radio" for 1957 and "Knowledge - Power" for the seventieth. Took it home, they have nothing to rot in the barn.
  29. +2
    19 February 2020 14: 20
    Very interesting, just nostalgia. I read the same magazines, and kept "Young Technician" and "Model Designer" for a long time. Until the mid-90s ...
  30. +5
    19 February 2020 14: 38
    Thanks to the author for the article ... for a trip to the USSR, albeit a short one ... but I kind of went home fellow drinks
  31. +3
    19 February 2020 17: 43
    Thanks to the author for the article! I reckoned my soul with memories ... Everything was just that, "Young Technician", then "Technology of Youth", "Science and Life", well, "Around the World" and the "Seeker" application are just a separate, special topic! On my own I would like to add to the "Modeler-Designer" the Polish edition "Small Modeling" (I'm afraid to make a mistake in the spelling), but there were also ships and airplanes ... And yet, maybe someone remembers, there was such a magazine of a small format, called "Czechoslovak motor revue "! ))))) Skoda, Tatra, Java and ChZ, with photos and color cover ...
  32. 0
    20 February 2020 01: 21
    who’s talking about anything and most importantly sausage, gum and trousers shredded here it’s happiness and the country to ruin the little things,
  33. +2
    20 February 2020 15: 47
    In the magazines “Bonfire” and “Pioneer” (I don’t remember which ones) I read V. Krapivin’s wonderful novels “The Side Where the Wind is”, “People from the frigate“ Africa ”and“ Squire Kashka ”,
    With Vladislav Krapivin I got a kind of acquaintance. It happened when I was ... over 50. smile And I realized how much I lost due to the fact that I did not discover it for myself in childhood. True, one of his stories, “Stars in the Rain,” stood on my children's bookshelf, but slipped among many other authors, I did not even remember the name “Krapivin”. But his matchless Sails of Espada, Scarlet Feathers of Arrows, Bitango, and Three from Karronad Square were 40 years late for me. It turns out that reading boyish books is interesting to almost a senior citizen. wink
    1. +1
      20 February 2020 16: 00
      Quote: Martyn
      It turns out that reading boyish books is interesting to almost a senior citizen.

      Totally agree with you!
    2. 0
      20 February 2020 16: 12
      Quote: Martyn
      In the magazines “Bonfire” and “Pioneer” (I don’t remember which ones) I read V. Krapivin’s wonderful novels “The Side Where the Wind is”, “People from the frigate“ Africa ”and“ Squire Kashka ”,
      With Vladislav Krapivin I got a kind of acquaintance. It happened when I was ... over 50. smile And I realized how much I lost due to the fact that I did not discover it for myself in childhood. True, one of his stories, “Stars in the Rain,” stood on my children's bookshelf, but slipped among many other authors, I did not even remember the name “Krapivin”. But his matchless Sails of Espada, Scarlet Feathers of Arrows, Bitango, and Three from Karronad Square were 40 years late for me. It turns out that reading boyish books is interesting to almost a senior citizen. wink

      "Flight of the Horned Vikings". My favorite story is at Krapivin's.
      1. +1
        20 February 2020 19: 30
        Quote: Doctor Evil
        "Flight of the Horned Vikings".

        I like her too!
  34. +1
    22 February 2020 01: 07
    Thanks to the Internet, the entire world library is now at home. And in elementary school somehow I accidentally got the book "The Wizard of the Emerald City". I managed to look through the pictures and read a few pages. And the book was taken away. I tried to find it in libraries in bookstores, I literally fell ill with it. But unsuccessfully, the shortage was not only for sausage and clothes. So I never read it. And now I don't want to. smile
    1. 0
      22 February 2020 07: 10
      Quote: Sardanapalus
      So I did not read it. And now I don’t want to.

      I sympathize and very much. This book must be read. But everything has its time ...
      1. +1
        27 February 2020 06: 05
        Similarly ..... My first book was read completely by myself. From Urfin and his soldier he saw only the cover. The fiery god of marranes was published in Science and Life, he could only find a couple of magazines on waste paper. Yes, and illustrations, I think not the last role they played. Exactly the classic ones .... The magazine was not the same .... They gave seven late-day kings for a day, they read it in turn with their grandfather ....
        He served in Zab VO, on a business trip in Khabarovsk, usually a museum or second-hand book for freedom. And lo and behold! All six books of the Volkov Vladivostok Book Publishing House !!! I gave it to my children, I read it more than once .... By the way, they did not cause such enthusiasm among the children.
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          27 February 2020 08: 08
          Quote: mexanik62
          By the way, they did not cause such enthusiasm in children.

          Not surprising! Another generation ... A new information field ...
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    2 May 2020 04: 14
    Amen. crying
    PS: It is especially interesting to see the ideas of past years about the prospects of the aerospace sector. The development of the Myasishchev Design Bureau is generally a thought far ahead of its time.
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    10 May 2020 12: 05
    There was a country that was shaved ... In many ways, it was better than others, there were problems, where without them. But instead of reforming it, they simply stupidly surrendered .... The political rollback almost to the 19th century, the spilled blood of a Russian soldier was discounted by the mediocre Gorbachevs, Yakovlevs and Yeltsins.
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      10 May 2020 12: 10
      Quote: Growlers
      There was a country that was shaved ... In many ways, it was better than others, there were problems, where without them. But instead of reforming it, they simply stupidly surrendered .... The political rollback almost to the 19th century, the spilled blood of a Russian soldier was discounted by the mediocre Gorbachevs, Yakovlevs and Yeltsins.

      Do not pour salt into the wound ... The Sabbath on the bones of the USSR continues and still cannot plunder everyone. They shut us up, those who remember everything, as it was for real .. hi