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The interior of the Soviet apartment until the 1967 year. Museum in Kaliningrad. It is very difficult to preserve the memory of the past, but it is possible by creating such “household museums” or rooms in museums. That was all in the apartments of my comrades in the street, and in my house too: a cover from the Singer machine and the machine itself, only manual and not foot, the chairs are exactly the same, the carpet on the wall, photo portraits on the wall under glass. But there was no icon in the corner in my house. But the neighbors had it!


“Winston felt desperate. The old man's memory was just a dump of small details. You can ask him all day and you won’t get any worthwhile information. So that история parties may be true in a sense; and maybe quite true. ”
J. Orwell. Xnumx


History and documents. The archive is, of course, good. And we’ll get into it more than once. But we ourselves still remember something, because we lived at that time. By the way, I personally will write about the fact that I personally remember the time I studied at the Soviet school, and this will be the answer to the material on this subject that appeared somehow on VO. But today we will talk about something else. Namely, about the economy of the beginning of the 1970's. I found in my photo archive interesting photos from the museum in Kaliningrad and my own ones taken at home a little later, and decided to “attach” them to the text so that it would be interesting to watch and read. Well, about school years it will be somehow another time, not yet evening, it will be necessary to look for photos of those years.

So, we begin by recalling J. Orwell again. That place in his novel “1984”, where he asks in the old man’s pub about when he lived better, in the past or now. And he is surprised that he remembers the individual “pieces of the mosaic” very accurately, but ... he cannot add an entire picture from them. So in some respects my picture is very clear, as if it happened yesterday. But did I really think about global problems then?


It’s for sure that they “robbed” my apartment: a table, a sideboard, and a chair (on the left). And the elephant ... There wasn’t such a gramophone

And it so happened that I was tired of being alone in the company of my grandfather and grandmother, with whom I spent the last years of school, while my mother arranged her personal life, went to college and felt ... that my soul craves love and ... family happiness. And it says done! I found a girl of my dreams for myself, offered my hand and heart, and ... in the summer of 1974, we, as they said then, “signed”, we were celebrating a wedding with a whole bunch of friends (well!) And relatives (I would like these fewer and in general, in my opinion, the best marry an orphan!) and began to lead their first independent household. They settled in a large wooden house with six windows onto the street, a large Russian stove and Dutch, antique furniture, a closet, barns, firewood and supplies of coal and briquettes for the winter and, of course, without amenities, as well as hot and cold water, but with large garden. The wife still regrets that the house was demolished, and we were given an apartment. Because in summer it was not hot, and in winter it was not cold. My grandmother's pension was 28 rubles, my grandfather received 90, and the garden also gave money, and we received a scholarship - according to 40 p. or 40 and 50 (enhanced). Moreover, my mother and stepfather sent 50 p., Because we gave our 80 to our grandmother, who was engaged in grocery shopping and cooking for everyone. But since she often went to the hospital, we had to manage us very soon. Then, near our house on Proletarskaya Street, there were three grocery stores: cooptorg, “grocery” and bread.


TV and clock ... We had them until the move to the apartment building in 1976 year!

Usually we went to co-trade, because he was closer. The assortment in the summer of 1974 there was this: draft milk (in the morning) and sour cream by weight and in jars, as well as bottled milk, as well as kefir, fermented baked milk and yogurt, and milk in triangular bags. Bottles could then be handed over to “Glass” for money, but it is necessary that the edge of the neck was not broken, without chips. There was condensed milk in cans, but already condensed milk was only in Moscow.

Other dairy products included weighted cottage cheese, packaged cottage cheese, curd cheese with raisins, Russian cheese, Poshekhonsky, Smoked cheese (in the form of round sausage, we never liked it), as well as Druzhba processed cheese ( traditional snack of our street drinkers!), Summer cheese (a little more expensive than “friendship” with herbs) and ... that's all.


A typical counter of the Soviet grocery store 70's ...

Butter was both weighed and in packs, and there was also “chocolate butter” and, of course, vegetable oil - from sunflower, spilled into glass bottles, with only one kind. Sometimes they sold it by co-trade by weight, but the weight by weight smelled very specific. They also sold it on the market, but we never bought it there.


Scales with weights were used even in state trade for a very long time.

Mayonnaise was also of two varieties: "Provence" and "Spring" with the addition of greens. That year, he stood on the shelves and was not in short supply, just like green peas, by the way. Bulgarian, company "Globus". There were also canned Bulgarian "Stuffed Bulgarian Pepper", peach compote. Our domestic only remember stewed cherries. There were about the same number of sausages to choose from. "Doctor's" (the same pink as now, that is, with a minimum amount of meat, but nevertheless tastier than modern), "Amateur" with circles of fat, "Horse" (it is clear that from horse meat), but we liked most "Armavir" - in the shell of the abomasum, and as thick as a pig. Prices are: 2,80 p. “Doctoral”, but “Armavir” - already 3,50. There were no more sausages on sale, but there were “pork” sausages, and a couple of years later they began to throw sausages in the Three Piglets company store, but they didn’t lie there, there was a line behind them and they didn’t give more than one kilogram. By the way, cheese in Moscow, too, in the Cheese company store on Gorky Street was given no more than a pound in hand. But this rule fortunately did not apply to Roquefort cheese. So when I was in Moscow, I always bought it to the maximum of possibilities and asked the same of all my friends that they went there. Vodka was full. She stood in rows on the shelves. By 2,80 and 3,62 ("Capital"). Cognac "Pliska" (Bulgarian) cost 6 rubles and the same amount in the village of "Montazhny" near Penza (I don’t know what they installed there) cost a bottle of whiskey “Club 99”. We sold Cuban rum Cuba Libre (7 and 8 rubles), from which we made Daiquiri - Hemingway’s favorite cocktail.

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Label from 99 Club


Puerto Rican and Jamaican rum.


There was a very tasty tincture from Egypt “Abu Simbel” and somehow they were selling “Rum Negro” for only one year. My stepfather was often invited to Poland for various celebrations, like a war veteran. And from there he brought real French cognac Napoleon, Zubrovka and Puerto Rico rum with a fortress of 60 degrees. My university comrades, who stayed in Penza and grew old with me, still remember how we drank this Napoleon and sang: “And what I drink, and I drink cognac, I’ve made simple Napoleon cognac whole balcony. And who is the father, my father, Lena, our secretary general, but you are not talking about this! ”Well, the students ... they always differed in some kind of free thinking, but that’s all that our“ free thinking ”was enough for then. Jamaican rum is sometimes thrown away from us, but in Moscow. They drank it under the plate of Robertino Loretti "Jamaica, Jamaica!"


And this is Abu Simbel. True connoisseurs preferred strong Old Tallinn liqueur, but it could be bought only in the Baltic states

As I recall, there was only one beer: Zhigulevskoye, bottled and bottled, from barrels ... When I lived with my stepfather in Moscow at the Rossiya Hotel, I tried the Golden Ring beer there, and so ... actually, more I did not try beer then.

Coffee was sold in stores by weight of beans. And already ground in cans. We preferred cereal. They themselves milled, cooked and treated their classmates who visited us in droves - after all, the first student family in the group.


Toys of the time ...

Was in Penza, and another "company store" Don ". There were always fresh apples and black olives on sale, which, since 1980, have been replaced by Afghan green ones in banks. What else was in that co-trade? Herring in tanks and flat metal cans, well, traditional three-liter cans with tomato, apple, grape and pear juice. In 1974, it was no longer sold, but a few years before, starting from 1968, this store was full of Indian mango juice in large iron cans with labels in bright blue and red. Half-smoked sausage used to be there, but it was rarely dismantled quickly, just like hunting sausages. Delicious ham "with a tear", called "Tambov ham" was sold. Now for some reason they don’t do this, but in vain. That is, they do it, but ... "without a tear."


And this too ...

I don’t remember something in the shops, but skinny thin and some kind of blue-looking chickens from a local poultry farm were for sale. We did not buy them, because on the market for 3-5 rubles you could buy an excellent chicken, or for a ruble two giblets - a head, a stomach, a liver, a heart and two chicken legs - out of two such giblets came out a wonderful chicken stock. Again, the market was beef, pork, lamb rarely.

Not far from us was a vegetable shop where the whole time it smelled just disgusting. There was a potato in half with the ground, excellent cabbage with huge heads of cabbage, carrots - “the nun’s dream”, equally impressive beets and again three liter jars with pickled squash and cucumbers in my hand. Who then bought it, I just can’t even imagine. Seldom-rarely there was "thrown out" cauliflower and on this all the vegetables in this store ended. Well, except that in autumn tents were put up all over the city, in which they sold watermelons from Kamyshin and Astrakhan. Melons were sold by "comrades from Central Asia" and only at the big city market. They sold expensively, as now. Collective farmer’s melons, like watermelons, were often offered directly from cars ...

There were four types of cakes in cafes and grocery stores: “custard” (eclairs), biscuit (as they were called and still exist safely today!), “Potato” and “cream tube”. Rarely, but there were meringues, and all kinds of “crusts” and “ring with nuts” were constantly on the windows. We knew in which cafe the cakes were always fresh and went there to drink coffee with cakes. Well, of course, they bought them home. Cakes were also of two types: "Biscuit" and "Fruit". In Moscow, I saw people with bird milk cakes in their hands. But he himself never stood in line for them, they were very large. But to order a cake for some celebration was in Penza at that time a big problem. It was necessary to go to the overproduction, ask, explain, persuade. And they told you directly that they better make ten ordinary cakes than one to order. Unprofitable! You offer a lot of money ... Do not take. You can’t take more than a serial cake! Price for weight. Work does not count. And I ordered a basket with strawberries, then with mushrooms ... If it weren’t for my ability to convince, my wife wouldn’t see such beautiful cakes then. Some kind of game, right? But it was so!


In my opinion, it was bad then with toys (which, incidentally, I wrote about in my articles in Penza newspapers). The dolls had more beds, the closets did not fit the size of the dolls, dishes, cutlery - everything was different. And how was it to play with it? I had to make toys myself, just the size of my favorite doll dolls. That is, furniture, clothes, and food - she had everything on one scale. It was a real world where the cabinet doors opened, the drawers closed, the lid rose at the piano and there were even candlesticks with candles

Was in Penza and the store "Gifts of Nature." They sold hunting prey there. The meat of a moose, a wild boar, but the most important thing that helped us out when we were too free to handle money and, for example, bought jeans for 250 rubles, there were quails and partridges sold there. Partridge cost a ruble, and quail is even cheaper, and we bought this "game" constantly. And the soup was cooked from them, and baked in the oven, in a word, "luxuriously unwilling." But bananas were sold only in the summer, they were "thrown out", as they said then, into their hands for more than one kg, and to everything else they were still green and then they lay under our bed for a long time, "reached." Pineapples ... only from Moscow.

There were also a lot of canned goods in food stores, starting with the cheap “Sprats in Tomato” and “Squid in Own Juice”, to canned salmon. But again, they were not on sale for long.

Sweets and chocolates were sold in all stores. But in the center of the city, just in the house where the future girl of my dreams lived, there was a Snezhok store, where ... what was missing and it smelled of chocolate and vanilla so that my head was spinning. There was also a cafe serving ice cream in vases: with jam, raisins and cognac. On the way from the institute, a lot of girls stayed with me there, until I settled on one. And only then, having led “his” to the door, he went there, bought five truffles by the weight of pieces, and went home, gradually eating them. Truffles were delicious then, tastier than current ones. In candy bottles with liquor there was real liquor, and in the same "bottle" with rum - rum, and not the essence, as it is now. Modern sweets in general seem to me to be “sweet clay”, although sweets are “prunes in chocolate” and “dried apricots in chocolate” for my taste are not different in quality from those sweets. The marshmallows were white, pink and in chocolate. Very tender and airy, but just like marshmallow, it quickly dried up. There were candies in the boxes “Golden Cornfield”, “Kolos”, our Penza set of sweets with portraits of famous compatriots, but, of course, they bought them only for a holiday. 8-10 rubles - the price seemed prohibitive.


With great difficulty, my daughter managed to make a set of things for several rooms, which were located in her niche under the windowsill. It was also a kind of museum of life. The chest of drawers is an exact copy of the chest of drawers from our old wooden house. A sewing machine is an exact copy of the machine on which my grandmother sewed. That's just the phone had to "fantasize"

That is, on 80 rubles for the two of us, a young married couple, it was quite possible to feed ourselves. And with a subsidy of 50 rubles, it’s very good to eat and even go to the movies.

It was worse with ... material goods. It is clear that at that time we were not worried about buying a refrigerator or a vacuum cleaner. All this was bought before us. But we could only dress with considerable difficulty, and this despite the fact that all clothing and shoe stores were packed with goods. But ... everything was like in the movie "Give a mournful book." The man’s coat is “brick-cobblestone color”, women’s - exclusively “woman’s styles”, but it was simply impossible to buy a suit for me. Either the jacket’s hands are short, then the trousers, then the hands are normal, the trousers are two sizes larger than myself. I told the seller: “Let's take the jacket from this suit, and the trousers from this?” The answer was like in the movie “De Javu” - “You can’t change. A meatball with rice, a cutlet with potatoes! ”Therefore, I had to buy fabric and all clothes to order tailors and dressmakers, and it would be advisable for private traders. They also sewed in state ateliers ... but "not very high quality." Fortunately, the fabrics were good.


Fashion then changed as it does now. That is - every year. For example, somewhere in the 1976 year, women's midi and mini skirts with embroidery on the hem came into fashion. Someone embroidered a bunch of flowers, someone a cat's face. My wife, in my sketch, embroidered this Indian. Well, then the skirt went out of fashion, but we saved the Indian as a memory. And it came in handy ...

We regularly bought very good domestic fabrics, and sewed dresses and suits from them, both to our wife and me, and she also knitted a lot and well, and this also allowed us both, and then our little daughter, to look both fashionable and elegant. Yugoslavian shoes, naturally, cost 40 rubles, ours, the “Kuznetsk” (shoe factory near Penza), 10 and 20, but no one bought them, except for the workers — standing in them at the machine.


Not from the past, but from the present. My granddaughter played all this just recently. Well, I had to make a mortar and stand for a typewriter

So I remembered 1974 for a year, then 1975, and then 1976. After which, little by little, some of the above goods from the sale began to disappear.

To be continued ...
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 7 December 2019 15: 19 New
    +2
    Sorry ... I couldn’t, in due time, get an answer for why on the MILITARY REVIEW articles are laid out that resemble a guide to a not rich tourist? Now, apparently, a new wave is beginning. - "the life of the Soviet man"?
    How will we tie him to the word MILITARY?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 7 December 2019 15: 33 New
      +46
      But just very attached. It was a comparison of our life in the 70s with the well-known, mainly from films and rumors of the life of the West, that led our weak, as it turned out, souls to calm indifference to the death of the great country of our fathers and grandfathers. Lead on beautiful candy wrappers and are now reaping the result of our own stupidity in the 80s and 90s.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 16: 00 New
        +5
        We are reaping the result of the stupidity and inertness of the Soviet party leadership. Life and what you call candy wrappers is one of the components of a normal human life.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 17: 35 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Life and what you call candy wrappers is one of the components of a normal human life.

          Oh how glitters! Oh, how it burns! Not that ours, soviet!
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 37 New
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            Name at least one grade of Soviet whiskey?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 17: 41 New
              +21
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Name at least one grade of Soviet whiskey?

              Moonshine. Not on sale. laughing
              Um ... We did an emphasis on vodka.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 45 New
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                We did not make moonshine from barley malt. From corn, sort of like the same. Fruits, potatoes, sugar + yeast, beets. Sometimes made from wheat or rye. A very tasty thing was obtained from Cuban brown raw sugar. Almost rum.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 17: 52 New
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  From corn, sort of like the same

                  They did it. Damn knows what they were doing. Caramel in washing machines drove. crying
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 57 New
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                    Well this is a surrogate. The best product I've tried was made from rye. I will make a reservation: with skillful hands. And from my grandfather I heard such a tale: that during the war the Poles drove out of fermented cow shit.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 18: 00 New
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      that during the war the Poles drove out of fermented cow shit.

                      Us like a grandmother at the state farm moonshine poisoned. Everyone was bored. "Oh, sons, yes I went too far chicken litter!". Gave for treatment. With a St. John's wort, I didn’t understand.
                      1. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 18: 02 New
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                        This is another matter. Calcium carbide for strength and tobacco for dope were added. But this is not our way.
                  2. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 8 December 2019 19: 23 New
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                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    They did it. Damn knows what they were doing. Caramel in washing machines drove.

                    When I was in practice in Riga, the Rigaselmash plant, so the men drank there, the so-called “Quick”, they poured it from a can into a mug, people. drank and immediately ran away, as it later turned out to the toilet, some did not run))))
            2. Undecim
              Undecim 7 December 2019 17: 54 New
              +21
              Name at least one grade of Soviet whiskey?
              AS Ivanov, you have absolutely no control over the issue and you have a vague idea of ​​the USSR.
              Whiskey in the USSR was produced since 1953.
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 7 December 2019 17: 58 New
                +17
                Later grade.
            3. Mcar
              Mcar 7 December 2019 19: 24 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Name at least one grade of Soviet whiskey?

              So here he is:
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              The best product I've tried was made from rye. I will make a reservation: with skillful hands.


              Whiskey, tequila, rum, cognac and indeed all strong national drinks, except our vodka, it is moonshine. Of course, a special “dressing" is double distillation, removal of the head and tail, cleaning with coal (also depending on which), aging in oak barrels, etc. of wisdom. But the usual distillation is based on - that is, distillation of mash by the moonshine hardware. What happens will depend on the mash: barley - whiskey, grapes - cognac, sugarcane - rum, etc. We have traditionally had rye.

              Why was there no Soviet whiskey on sale? And you have to say thank you to those who, in Tsarist Russia, at the end of the 19th century, replaced distillation with rectification. A new way of producing alcohol has been added all over the world, and we have replaced one with another.
              1. Martin
                Martin 12 December 2019 18: 21 New
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                What happens will depend on the mash: barley - whiskey, grapes - cognac, sugarcane - rum, etc. We have traditionally had rye.
                Calvados - apples.
                1. Mcar
                  Mcar 12 December 2019 19: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Martyn
                  What happens will depend on the mash: barley - whiskey, grapes - cognac, sugarcane - rum, etc. We have traditionally had rye.
                  Calvados - apples.

                  Tequila - agave. )))
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 9 December 2019 18: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          We are reaping the result of the stupidity and inertness of the Soviet party leadership. Life and what you call candy wrappers is one of the components of a normal human life.

          Life - yes, but candy wrappers? Scolding here Soviet power, what are you reaping, I wonder? laughing You stupid troll.
      2. Oleg (Kharkov)
        Oleg (Kharkov) 7 December 2019 17: 28 New
        0
        I agree. But why in China, where many now live almost in a stable, didn’t the propaganda work?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 17: 43 New
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          Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
          But why in China, where many now live almost in a stable

          Can you show a crib?
          Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
          propaganda did not work

          It is valid. Only they are fighting with her.
          1. businessv
            businessv 8 December 2019 09: 20 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            It is valid. Only they are fighting with her.

            And quite successfully, colleague, they are fighting! It was with us in the 90s that our brains were on one side, as from Ilf and Petrov - "abroad will help us." They helped to ruin a huge, strong country that really "has no analogues in the world" both in social programs and in the stupidity of the leadership during the period of stagnation and perestroika, not to mention Yeltsin's betrayal.
    2. knn54
      knn54 7 December 2019 17: 13 New
      +24
      Communism passed, but we did not notice.
      And a small amendment is Globus. The company is Hungarian.
      For three rubles a vodka: 2,87 and cheese "Friendship" ..
      The author, it seems, did not visit the company store of the Poltava meat processing plant in Moscow. This is about sausages.
      While in Moscow in 1976, he drank a decent Ostankino Original beer.
      And now the “bomb” as a student in 1974 traveled to Gelendzhik on a ticket-35 rubles (100%) for 12 days with excursions (oh, Abrau-Durso) and 4 meals a day.
      PS The granddaughter and her friends do not believe that they received the apartments for FREE.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 52 New
        +2
        The author does not seem to have visited ordinary food stores in the Novgorod or Pskov regions. Sprats in tomato and three-liter jars with cucumbers were definitely there. The rest is mainly from the realm of fiction.
      2. at84432384
        at84432384 7 December 2019 18: 04 New
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        The author, to put it mildly, cheats. I came to Moscow to study in this very 1974. The cheapest vodka is 3.62. This is to the fact that he recruited his "information" from an Internet and not very high quality. Prices in co-trade were 3-4 times higher than in ordinary state trade. When a person claims that "there was one beer", he simply did not live in the USSR. One beer was found only in pubs. In the stores there were several more of them - “taiga”, and “Riga”, and “Ostankino”, and “Original”, and other varieties, now I don’t remember offhand. This is as stupid as the recent statement by the GDP that in the USSR, apart from galoshes, nothing good was done.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 7 December 2019 20: 09 New
          +4
          In 1972, the price of the Moscow special with 2p 87 kopecks became 3 p 62 kopecks. Beer (in the suburbs) there were many varieties, in addition to those mentioned, there were Velvet, Double Golden, Czech varieties Svetovar and Budvar. And in the spring of 1973 a lot of good Egyptian Stella beer appeared. Johan Smuul also wrote about him in the Ice Book, where he went to Egypt on his way back from Antarctica. And in October 1973 another Arab-Jewish war began (the Doomsday War). Then I realized that Egypt paid for our equipment with beer too.
          1. 1536
            1536 7 December 2019 21: 00 New
            +2
            It is a pity that the Soviet Union at one time did not seriously help the North American Indians to fight for their rights, if you look at something American, they would throw it on the shelves, the same moccasins or tobacco.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 7 December 2019 21: 10 New
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              And after the “captains revolution” in Portugal in 1974, we quickly got a good Porto port in bottles, like the Bulgarian Pliska. He cost 4 p 50 kopecks.
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 7 December 2019 20: 27 New
          +8
          The author, to put it mildly, cheats.
          Vodka was full. She stood in rows on the shelves. 2,80 and 3,62 each
          The author may just fail memory. There was really no such combination of prices in 1974. Until 1972, there were 2,87 and 3,12.
          In 1972, Decree No. 361 On Measures to Strengthen the Fight Against Drunkenness and Alcoholism was issued. Among other measures to combat was a price increase. That's when the famous 3,62 figure was born, beaten even in the comedy of Gaidai.
          As for the assortment of beer, it depended heavily on the "locality". There was also Zhigulevskoye, Moskovskoye, Riga, Leningradskoye, Ukrainskoye, Lvovskoye, Martovskoye, Velvet, Porter. But it was impossible to see such an assortment on sale in the USSR in 1974 in Moscow, but on the "periphery" there were really no other varieties except Zhigulevsky. Even in our city, where there were two breweries, there were no more than three varieties.
          1. VeteranVSSSR
            VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 21: 56 New
            +5
            Zhiguli
            Lida
            Belorussian
            - velvet
            - barley wheels
            This is in Minsk, well, erotic wine-Ereti
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            1. Undecim
              Undecim 9 December 2019 18: 53 New
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              I wrote beer sorts from memory, listed those that met.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 9 December 2019 19: 04 New
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                Quote: Undecim
                I wrote beer sorts from memory, listed those that met.

                Over time, from memory that thread is erased, it happens. Right now, I also don’t remember all of the beer. I remember that in Sverdlovs a brewery was built according to Polish / Czech technology, as the beer was called, I don’t remember, but it was tasty. The second half of the 70s.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 9 December 2019 19: 20 New
                  +1
                  In Sverdlovsk there was one brewery - Isetsky. It’s just there that Isetskoye beer was brewed. But he is from the pre-war era.
                  In the early 70s in the USSR, many factories were built on Czech equipment, at least ten, but in Sverdlovsk the brewery is old, Soviet.
                  By the way, 19 grades - it was in the RSFSR. And the republics still had their own brand varieties.
                  1. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 9 December 2019 19: 25 New
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                    Quote: Undecim
                    In Sverdlovsk there was one brewery - Isetsky. It’s just there that Isetskoye beer was brewed. But he is from the pre-war era.
                    In the early 70s in the USSR, many factories were built on Czech equipment, at least ten, but in Sverdlovsk the brewery is old, Soviet.

                    You just do not know. In Sverdlovsk there were 2 breweries - Isetsky and the one I spoke of. Then he was called Patra. They killed the Iset, right now only this one works.
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 9 December 2019 19: 34 New
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                      The Sverdlovsky Drinks and Mineral Water Plant, which Patra, didn’t seem to produce beer until 1993, only soda and mineral water?
                      1. Doliva63
                        Doliva63 9 December 2019 19: 45 New
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                        Quote: Undecim
                        The Sverdlovsky Drinks and Mineral Water Plant, which Patra, didn’t seem to produce beer until 1993, only soda and mineral water?

                        It was immediately built as a beer factory. I remember a bottle of 0,3 alien drink. But it was delicious, nothing to say. I didn’t follow his life, although I remember Prince’s beer at 3.50 in the early 90s, even my wife dabbled. But also gas. drinks are stamped too.
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 9 December 2019 20: 03 New
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              Quote: Doliva63
              Well, Shpakovsky, in the past, in fact, a party worker, surprisingly shits in his Soviet past. Apparently profitable.

              He publishes his books in Germany, which means he is fulfilling the order of his sponsors.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 9 December 2019 20: 32 New
                0
                Quote: ccsr
                Quote: Doliva63
                Well, Shpakovsky, in the past, in fact, a party worker, surprisingly shits in his Soviet past. Apparently profitable.

                He publishes his books in Germany, which means he is fulfilling the order of his sponsors.

                A drum around his neck. He dislikes me. Since childhood, I do not like traitors.
          3. Victorio
            Victorio 13 December 2019 20: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Undecim
            "But it was impossible to see such an assortment on sale in the USSR in 1974 in Moscow, but there were really no other varieties except Zhigulevsky on the" periphery. "Even in our city where there were two breweries, there were no more than three varieties.

            ====
            the union was big and different. on mangyshlak (zap.kaz.ssr) in 70-80 x there were no breweries, only imported. in addition to Zhiguli (live beer, heat, quickly deteriorated), there were imported ones: Egyptian "stele" (stella?), Czech "diplomat", "staropramen", "Pilsen celebration" and something else. I remember in Tiksi (80s) also different imported.
        3. Avior
          Avior 7 December 2019 21: 57 New
          +2
          I did not see any taiga, Ostpnkinsky or original in the eyes
          It was Zhigulevskoe and sometimes wheat
          Apparently, it depended heavily on the assortment of the local brewery
        4. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 December 2019 12: 06 New
          0
          Quote: at84432384
          It same stupidity as well as the recent statement by the GDP that in the USSR, apart from galoshes, nothing good was done

          You said exactly "the same stupidity." The GDP never said that "the USSR did not produce anything but galoshes."

          GDP is not an idiot. Unlike yes
          1. at84432384
            at84432384 9 December 2019 17: 13 New
            0
            It is useful to follow the speeches of his president. I’m ashamed, my friend. That is exactly what he said.
            1. at84432384
              at84432384 9 December 2019 17: 16 New
              -1
              https://ok.ru/video/329090601247
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 8 December 2019 13: 13 New
        -4
        Quote: knn54
        The granddaughter and her friends do not believe that the apartments were received for FREE.

        This is NOT YOUR apartment.
        1. glk63
          glk63 8 December 2019 17: 26 New
          +1
          I mean, you couldn’t sell it for a penny and after that be on the street? Yes, a big flaw ...)
          1. dauria
            dauria 8 December 2019 18: 55 New
            -1
            I mean, you couldn’t sell it for a penny and after that be on the street? Yes, a big flaw ..


            Olgovich is right. The apartment could not be inherited, presented, sold. Even to your own children or grandchildren. And registering them in your apartment was not always possible. And "book" your place in the apartment, check out, and then register it was possible only in certain cases. Registered with parents in Kazan, do you want to work in Tambov? Sign out, sign up and work. But you can’t get back. For example, parents died. The only way is exchange. And if the parents do not want to Tambov?
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 9 December 2019 10: 54 New
            -2
            Quote: glk63
            I mean, you couldn’t sell it for a penny and after that be on the street? Yes, a big flaw ...)

            It can be seen that they did not live in the USSR ....

            Fictitious marriages, fictitious divorces, guardianship, fake exchanges and other frauds — how much of this all senseless and humiliating was done to keep the apartment, which, as it were, has its own!

            They did not want to register me with MOM: she was registered there alone and some big one had already laid eyes on our apartment. Running around the police (football), city executive committees, district executive committees (try to get an appointment!).
            As a result, "found the ends" and the executive committee .. resolved "....
    3. 1536
      1536 7 December 2019 20: 57 New
      -3
      I'm afraid to guess, but the next exhibition will be about life in East Prussia? Moreover, unlike the antediluvian Singer machine, apparently released by the Podolsk sewing machine factory that was once in Russia, iPhones will be laid out on the table right away, and the latest brand of Mercedes will be parked outside.
    4. Den717
      Den717 8 December 2019 19: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I couldn’t, in due time, get an answer for why on MILITARY REVIEW articles are laid out that resemble a guide to a rich tourist?

      For a fee. Why is it incomprehensible ?! The author received money for the article, you are information for the question. All is well .... laughing
  2. demo
    demo 7 December 2019 15: 22 New
    +15
    Although not related to VO, but very interesting.
    Already pinched.

    Granddaughter approach, right now and asks - what is this?
    I had to explain everything.
    The dolls, however, did not impress her.
    Well, very scary, he says.
    I liked the rest.
    The gramophone did not understand why.
    Spruce explained.
    The TV was surprising.
    Roly-in-vostanka even was able to show how it works.

    So thanks to the author. Dipped, so dipped. In memory.
  3. Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 7 December 2019 15: 27 New
    +31
    Medvedev said that it was bad in the USSR. There was nothing in the stores. And at our place the refrigerator was always full. The paradox however. I got education for free and in my opinion is better than in Europe (I live here). Sorry for the country. We were betrayed, deprived of faith in a brighter future. All sold and stolen.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 7 December 2019 17: 19 New
      +13
      Yes ... What can I say, I don’t even know. This is all in the city and not lower than the regional one. I grew up and lived in a village, in 68 formed a district center, and the inhabitants of the village could not even dream of anything like that.
      In our area there was a creamery, up to 10 tons of butter per day (in the summer months) were produced, plus cheese, in the store with a roll-off ball. Doctoral or Lyubitelskaya was bought in Orenburg 250km from us. Then she disappeared.
      In the year 1980, they went to Kazakhstan, in Aktyubinsk, to buy chocolates for children on the New Year. We went into the store, our eyes went up on our foreheads, sweets of different varieties, which we never heard of.
      They bought 2 tricycles for children there (I have twins). In our area of ​​hope there was no such thing to buy.
      My conclusion: the village, our native party and government have forgotten. People in the village deserved a better attitude.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 7 December 2019 18: 11 New
        +7
        Quote: smith 55
        In the year 1980, they went to Kazakhstan, in Aktyubinsk, to buy chocolates for children on the New Year. We went into the store, our eyes went up on our foreheads, sweets of different varieties, which we never heard of.

        In 1975, I was on an internship in Leninakan (Armenian SSR), and even after Kiev my eyes slightly climbed over my forehead from the abundance of goods that were difficult to find even in the capital of the Union Republic. Few people know that private traders openly sold Western foreign cigarettes, chewing gum and perfume, worse than gypsies in port cities, on the streets, but I was surprised to see it myself. Such a multifaceted life was in the USSR - just not everyone knew about it, and when they first encountered it, they could be very surprised, like you in Aktyubinsk.
        1. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 21: 54 New
          +3
          In the summer of 1977 they sent me on a business trip to Termez, so there in the shop dusted Arab perfumes "Cairo" for 10 rubles. The wife had a small bottle for 5 years, and we still remember. The aroma is a fairy tale.
      2. Igor Pa
        Igor Pa 8 December 2019 11: 26 New
        0
        I myself come from the Stavropol region. I can say about village shops: there was everything! We went specifically to the villages to buy something that the city did not have. The sausage lay in the co-trade what you want and how much you want. Village shops were taken to fairs in the city. Near them is always a full house. Well, it was like that with us. I heard about the Russian outback. The truth is all this.
    2. Den717
      Den717 8 December 2019 20: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Igor Pa
      Medvedev said that it was bad in the USSR.

      Why lie? Medvedev said that life in the USSR does not need to be idealized. And this is a big difference.
  4. kalibr
    7 December 2019 15: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Chief of the Redskins (Nazarius)

    Nazari! Here, read Van’s comment ... and this will be the answer to you - why! Here for this!
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 7 December 2019 16: 32 New
      0
      But I’m not talking about a syllable or about the truth. I'm talking about the keywords "military review".
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 7 December 2019 16: 36 New
        0
        Vyacheslav Olegovich! You would have gained experience from Kamenev! He in any article (even yours!) Manages to insert the word Ukroin.
        So you - no matter where the "army", "army" ... It seems that the conventions are met, and people tormented with nostalgia!)))
        1. kalibr
          7 December 2019 17: 42 New
          +1
          Dear Nazarius! I try not to adopt anything from anyone. Neither good nor bad.
    2. HAM
      HAM 7 December 2019 16: 48 New
      +9
      Correct article, Vyacheslav! Sorry, I’m writing off topic, but, you will touch many, there will be no future without memory .. Nazarii, probably forgot that the military-PEOPLE, have families ...
      Recently, articles have been streaming into VO to which forum users practically do not respond (count the asterisks “important” —maximum 10-15, there were other numbers a year ago). This indicates the low quality of the material, reprints of the world gossipers by NI and Sjhu are straining. No links are given on the resources where the news comes from -OBS turns out ... and here are people who themselves can figure out what to believe and what not ..
  5. Amateur
    Amateur 7 December 2019 15: 42 New
    +6
    At 2,80 and 3,62 ("Capital"). Cognac "Pliska" (Bulgarian) cost 6 rubles

    Pliska cost exactly 5 rubles (like "Sunny Beach). I answer, because in the fall at the agricultural work in the rural store there was only it (Vodka was banned for sale because of students). And vodka was 2.87 (Crankshaft) and 4,12, XNUMX (Wheat).
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 16: 24 New
      +3
      Dilettante, you’re not in the topic, “crankshaft” - 3.62 ... ,, wheat''5.30 ..., but 4.12 it’s ,, metropolitan ''
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 7 December 2019 17: 02 New
        +4
        “Crankshaft” (She is “Andropovka”) -2-87. And at the expense of other prices, with a spotted head, there was an anecdote: A student is taking an chemistry exam. -Professor: water formula?
        -Student: Ash 2 O
        -Professor: vodka formula?
        -Student: Ash (girl of low social responsibility) 7-70
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 27 New
          +2
          Andropovka, which has a green label, appeared after the Brezhnev price increase in alcohol and cost 4.70. She was, at that time, the cheapest vodka. Next up was Wheat - 5.30. And 6.20 cost "Siberian" with a screw cork and a raised fortress.
          1. Avior
            Avior 7 December 2019 22: 00 New
            0
            Stolichnaya 6.40
        2. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 17: 35 New
          +5
          Amateur, do not argue with an old alcoholic:
          -vodka ,, Moscow '' -2.87
          - ,, crankshaft '' (due to the location of the letters) -3.62
          - ,, wheat '' - 5.30
          - ,, andropovka '' - 4.70
          The product is listed in chronological order as they appear / disappear ...
          1. SHURUM -BURUM
            SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 04 New
            0
            Maybe an old alcoholic)) it will be interesting, our mechanics sometimes traveled to social countries to restore products (1977). One of them dragged to work a very large (0,7) empty bubble with the remnants of the export capital, which I bought in the German Democratic Republic, drank the night before, and enthusiastically let it sniff the entire assembly area. Well, I got to sniff. So, experts, the smell of vanilla came from the bottle, like from a candy store, there was practically no smell of alcohol. This metropolitan was exported. Our metropolitan in smell, in my opinion, did not differ from "our" wheat.
            1. VeteranVSSSR
              VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 22: 08 New
              0
              Do not say nonsense, as this metropolitan did not differ from wheat. And the label, but the price ???
              1. SHURUM -BURUM
                SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 14 New
                0
                I'm not talking about the label and price, but to the point. I not only sniffed, but also tried Stolichnaya, bought in a nearby store, and tried wheat, which my father-in-law respected. I didn’t feel the difference. For now, I think vodka is a vulgar drink. Prefer Whiskey. No need to eat. After 20 minutes, the head is completely clean. The taste and smell of vodka is disgusting ... I did not want to offend anyone))
                1. VeteranVSSSR
                  VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 22: 19 New
                  +1
                  You didn’t understand the jokes. I wrote that all the vodka was and is for one taste, but differs only in price and labels ...
                  To your health!!!
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 22: 28 New
                    0
                    Your untruth. The taste (and effect) of vodka depends on the degree of alcohol purification.
                    1. VeteranVSSSR
                      VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 23: 10 New
                      +1
                      ,, ... and if vodka were not driven from sawdust,
                      what would we have with five or six bottles ... ''
                  2. SHURUM -BURUM
                    SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 32 New
                    0
                    Mutually, for many years!
            2. Karen
              Karen 7 December 2019 22: 16 New
              0
              Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
              So, experts, the smell of vanilla came from the bottle, like from a candy store, there was practically no smell of alcohol.

              Then I had a chance to somehow get drunk with the export version of our cognac ... to taste - as if it carried chocolate ...
            3. ccsr
              ccsr 8 December 2019 11: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
              One of them dragged to work a very large (0,7) empty bubble with the remnants of the export capital, which I bought in the German Democratic Republic, drank the night before, and enthusiastically let it sniff the entire assembly area.

              In fact, in "Birch" and "Albatross" such vodka was in bulk, and down to liter bottles. In the GDR, there are indeed several varieties of our vodka sold in ordinary stores, but it cost more than the local one, and was not in great demand among our contingent.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 9 December 2019 18: 52 New
                0
                Quote: ccsr
                Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
                One of them dragged to work a very large (0,7) empty bubble with the remnants of the export capital, which I bought in the German Democratic Republic, drank the night before, and enthusiastically let it sniff the entire assembly area.

                In fact, in "Birch" and "Albatross" such vodka was in bulk, and down to liter bottles. In the GDR, there are indeed several varieties of our vodka sold in ordinary stores, but it cost more than the local one, and our cont drinks Ngenta did not use.

                From what? Metropolitan to the festive table always took. And so, yes, they preferred some thread German Three. And I bastards Fritz on cognac with beer planted. I'm still tormented laughing drinks
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 9 December 2019 20: 01 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  From what? Metropolitan to the festive table always took.

                  Honestly, I don’t remember what they took to the festive table, but I remembered that German good vodka 0,7 was cheaper (about 16-18 eastern marks) than our one-liter “Stolichnaya” (about 22-24 eastern marks), and in In mathematics, our people have always been strong.
                  1. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 9 December 2019 20: 29 New
                    0
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    From what? Metropolitan to the festive table always took.

                    Honestly, I don’t remember what they took to the festive table, but I remembered that German good vodka 0,7 was cheaper (about 16-18 eastern marks) than our one-liter “Stolichnaya” (about 22-24 eastern marks), and in In mathematics, our people have always been strong.

                    Hard case. Metropolitan - this is how greetings from the Motherland were. On New Year's Eve - mandatory.
          2. vitvit123
            vitvit123 8 December 2019 12: 54 New
            +1
            That's all I want to go to Belarus, mother-in-law to bring relatives at the same time. You, as an opponent (and once an expert on this issue), would bring a bottle of the capital like the end of the 80s, the beginning of the 90s, it seems that there is no longer any older (although I don’t remember exactly) ..
            1. VeteranVSSSR
              VeteranVSSSR 8 December 2019 17: 11 New
              +3
              Come, maybe we’ll meet, we’ll go fishing ...
              Not everything is as bad with us as many dream ....
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 8 December 2019 19: 03 New
                +1
                Well, fishing is the time, I would have my place, people to show. Time will tell
                . While mother-in-law does not shake.
        3. Captain45
          Captain45 7 December 2019 17: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: Amateur
          “Crankshaft” (She is “Andropovka”) -2-87.

          You have beguiled times, "Andropovka" was 4 p. 70 kopecks. was produced in 1983-84, I remember it well because worked at that time as an auditor in the bargaining. Vodka 2-87 did not reach Andropov because since 1976 (if my memory serves me well) the retail price has become 3 p. 62 kopecks, and Extra in a cognac (with a long neck) bottle of 4 p. 12 kopecks. 12 kopecks was the cost of a bottle, so prices ended at 2 kopecks.
          1. Amateur
            Amateur 7 December 2019 17: 50 New
            +3
            Perhaps you are right on the price account for years. But "Pliska" (and "Sunny Bryag) in 70-73 definitely cost 5 rubles. (There were no alternatives in the shop under the romantic name" Tabassum "(Smile))
          2. VeteranVSSSR
            VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 17: 57 New
            +1
            And from July 1, 1979, the container began to cost 20 kopecks.
          3. ccsr
            ccsr 8 December 2019 11: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Captain45
            You messed up the times

            What a heated debate has begun - that’s what the memory of the people means, it just cannot be thrown out of human minds ....
      2. at84432384
        at84432384 7 December 2019 18: 07 New
        -3
        Well, it’s excusable, just a man fell into senile senility and does not remember when the price of vodka changed. Or maybe I didn’t?
    2. mark1
      mark1 7 December 2019 16: 36 New
      +5
      And what about Stolichnaya and Extra? I entered the consumer age since 1980, but I remember well the "addiction" of my father in the late 60s and early 70s (by the way, there wasn’t anything terrible, everything is moderately, culturally.)
      But I don’t remember the icons either in my family or with my friends. (This of course does not mean that they were not)
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 7 December 2019 17: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: mark1
        But I don’t remember the icons either in my family or with my friends. (This of course does not mean that they were not)

        They were mainly in rural houses.
        But for a rural interior, the image in the photo is too exemplary.
        Maybe the farm chairman’s house? Wallpaper on almost even walls is the dream of any collective farmer of that time.
    3. Captain45
      Captain45 7 December 2019 17: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Amateur
      Pliska cost exactly 5 rubles (like "Sunny Beach")

      I don’t know what year you’re talking about, but in 1983 Pliska and Slyanchev Bryag cost 6 rubles .80 kopecks. The bottles were not standard - "pot-bellied", they were not accepted in glass containers, so the price was flat without 2 cents.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 59 New
        +1
        Pliska was always more expensive than Slynchev Bryag.
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 7 December 2019 18: 11 New
          0
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Pliska was always more expensive than Slynchev Bryag.

          Perhaps, but for some reason I remember that Bulgarian brandies were at the same price or simply because they were standing nearby on the counter and I remembered the price of a single drink.
        2. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 18: 37 New
          +1
          Pliska Cognac
          Sunny brig brandy.
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 7 December 2019 17: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: Amateur
      And the vodka was 2.87 (Crankshaft) and 4,12 (Wheat).

      Boo boo boo ... No need to mix ...
      When the Moscow special one cost 2 r 87 k, Stolichnaya cost 3 r 12 k, and after the extra charge there was a “Crankshaft” for 3 r 62 k and Extra, 4 r 12 k ... Compare:





      When Moscow cost 2p 87k, cognac 3 stars. cost 4 p 42 k ...
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 7 December 2019 18: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        No need to mix ...
        When the Moscow special cost 2 r 87 k, Stolichnaya cost 3 r 12 k, and after the extra charge, the “Crankshaft” appeared for 3 r 62 k and “Extra” 4 r 12

        Everything was just like that and I remembered it, only in my opinion there was also a three-star cognac and 4.12 rubles each.
        1. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 29 New
          +1
          And for cognac in Kazan I had to go to the airport restaurant, where it was sold in a buffet for 6 rubles. There was nowhere else to buy. After defending his dissertation (1968), the boss sent for cognac)).
      2. SHURUM -BURUM
        SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 26 New
        +1
        I don’t remember the bottom sticker, but the bottle with the top label was first filled with sealing wax, and later it began to be closed with a aluminum cap, which, apparently, was called the white-headed one.
    5. ccsr
      ccsr 7 December 2019 18: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Amateur
      Pliska cost exactly 5 rubles (like "Sunny Beach").

      And for some reason it seems to me that this is exactly how it cost, if not less, because our Armenian three-star could be for 4.12 or 4,50 rubles. buy in the 60-70s.

      Quote: Amateur
      And the vodka was 2.87 (Crankshaft) and 4,12 (Wheat).

      In the sixties, Moskovskaya was worth 2,87, and Stolichnaya was 3,07 and it was the cheapest vodka at that time. Then, in the seventies, prices grew and the cheapest began to cost 3,62 and she did not have the inscription “Vodka” from the spaced letters on her sticker, for which she was popularly called the “crankshaft”. But "Wheat" at this time just began to cost 4,12 rubles. - so I remember those years, although I admit that I could have forgotten somewhere, because I drank domestic wine at that time more often.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 7 December 2019 18: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: ccsr
        because he drank more domestic wine at that time.

        There was such a wine apple, it cost 1,02 (namely, a ruble and two pennies), the muck was incredible, but they drank because it was cheap, and there was something like that - Autumn garden, from the same series. Enemies of the people or something were to spill.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 18: 52 New
          +3
          Fruit-beneficial, it’s also “Rotten”
          That’s the name of the people.
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 7 December 2019 21: 30 New
          +1
          “I will hook the ruble twenty eight,”
          I'd like to catch the "Golden Autumn" laughing
        3. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 21: 39 New
          +1
          No, not the enemies of the people, it was ordinary, natural !!! fruitful / profitable vinishko. Yes, the unreasonable Bolsheviks added a certain drug to it so that the proletarians would not have tummies ...
        4. ccsr
          ccsr 8 December 2019 10: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: bober1982
          There was such wine - Apple, it cost 1,02

          I was more fortunate - I drank Crimean wines more often, and even sometimes the Trojan of Transcarpathia.
          Quote: bober1982
          Autumn garden, from the same series. Enemies of the people or something were to spill.

          But there was pure alcohol from distillation, and not the chemistry that many "foreign" manufacturers are now troubled by. So then poisoned by the amount drunk, and not by its quality. I tried fruit wines, but only when nothing normal could be bought and qualitatively inferior to real wine, you can not argue with that. Although home liquors for many citizens turned out just like vintage.
  6. kalibr
    7 December 2019 15: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Amateur
    Pliska cost exactly 5 rubles

    Most likely, just another evidence that even a very good memory over time ... goes bad!
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 7 December 2019 17: 42 New
      +6
      Stuffed cabbage forgotten, Vyacheslav Olegovich! * Globus * stuffed cabbage. Tasty, recently decided to nastalgize, bought. Of course not * Globus *, it is already gone, heartfelt. Whose production I did not remember, but ... it would be better if I didn’t! tormented by the question: why * people in black * are so actively and assertively fighting smokers with us, but can not do anything with substandard producers, at least of products? Is it not so bad for our health? / sarcasm /
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 8 December 2019 02: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Phil77
        . Certainly not * Globe *, it is already gone, heartfelt.

        In St. Petersburg in full growth request By the way, the Globus transferred its production to Russia and is in full bloom. Unlike the Bulgarproduct, which has safely died
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 December 2019 07: 24 New
          +1
          Do you know Ruslan, I googled a little and that’s what I found. The Bulgarconserv is still delivering its products to Russia / but it is not visible on the shelves, I don’t look well? / The smoking room is alive. But the most important thing that popped up from my memory! Of course, those delicious cabbage rolls were from the Bulgarians. Mistaken, I repent.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 8 December 2019 18: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Phil77
            .Bulgarconserv

            Quote: Ruslan67
            Bulgarproduct

            These are different offices
            There is practically nothing Bulgarian in St. Petersburg request Globe in my nearest store Peas cucumbers tomatoes and some kind of lecho Peas better than any Spanish
  7. Van 16
    Van 16 7 December 2019 15: 52 New
    +1
    Thank you for the article! Really pinched. It was also like this. And they also sang this song, there are a lot of verses, including about "And with whom I am friends, I am friends with Dima, a simple Soviet marshal" smile Seriously, thank you very much!
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 7 December 2019 17: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Van 16
      And with whom I am friends, I am friends with Dima, a simple Soviet marshal. "
      We still sang "friends with a simple Andryukha" (Grechko)
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 18: 47 New
      +3
      "What am I drinking and what am I drinking?
      Simple cognac "Napoleon"
      Giscard d'Estaing sent the wagon "
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 7 December 2019 20: 08 New
        +1
        We have easier
        What am I drinking? Simple Armenian cognac,
        Simple Armenian brandy,
        I'm full of my mansion. "
        1. Karen
          Karen 7 December 2019 22: 39 New
          +1
          My neighbor was an old pre-revolutionary manufacturer ... He had all the storerooms in his house packed with bottles of vodka, as an equivalent for possible difficult years ...
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 8 December 2019 09: 52 New
            0
            Quote: Karen
            as the equivalent for possible difficult years ...
            "Liquid currency" called alcohol
  8. Phil77
    Phil77 7 December 2019 16: 14 New
    +13
    1974,1975,1976 ... And at that time I was in school, and in the yard * they built a hockey box * themselves. They built it themselves and poured it. All this was. Why is this article on VO? Why then, what is ours in it life, the life of our great vast country, that’s why. Yes, in the past, but it was, was and is in our memory, in our children, grandchildren. That's why and why! Vyacheslav Olegovich! In a word, THANKS! hi
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 7 December 2019 18: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Phil77
      . Why is this article on VO?

      New Year's Eve is on the nose, here and pity about the past youth, because whoever found this was at that time still young.
      Quote: Phil77
      Here is why and why!

      I agree - let the current generation at least find out that we weren’t growing up as lapotniki, and perceived life as it is, and did not spread our snot on the Internet, as they can live under Putin, but worked and studied, so much so that many of today's “businessmen” "and will not work for themselves.
    2. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 7 December 2019 22: 37 New
      +2
      And they played in the towns in the yard!
  9. Nonna
    Nonna 7 December 2019 16: 33 New
    +13
    I will say one thing - we lived and were confident in the future. The one who worked and did not mess around - lived with dignity. There are always people who just look for and find a dust-free job (there is an appropriate salary) and those who are not afraid to plow. We were not afraid to plow, endured frosts, northern disorder, shift method, created families, people near us worked at 50, and even pensioners. Everyone had a job. In the USSR, all the hard work was well paid, so we did not suffer and were not deprived of anything. The article correctly writes about what was in the stores. But everything was in the markets - only more expensive. We have been accustomed to work since childhood. We raised our poultry and children - schoolchildren themselves went to the market selling boxes of chickens and eggs in buckets. And now city children do not even know what a turkey looks like. The people lost that beautiful country forever. At this stage, I see only one way out - each family to try to raise their children correctly and worthily - so the Russian family can survive. And stick to us, ordinary people together.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 7 December 2019 16: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Nonna
      And stick to us, ordinary people together.

      This is an excellent, correct conclusion !!!!
      1. VeteranVSSSR
        VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 18: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Phil77
        Quote: Nonna
        And stick to us, ordinary people together.

        This is an excellent, correct conclusion !!!!

        I agree.
        A note to the author, but not a line about galoshes ...
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 7 December 2019 16: 45 New
      +2
      how to educate if you know that the university does not shine for the child and the further the worse the teachers tear money that with paid students with free students and give less and less knowledge
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 7 December 2019 17: 00 New
        +4
        What does it mean that it does not shine?) Have you all closed them around or what?
    3. at84432384
      at84432384 7 December 2019 18: 12 New
      -2
      He wanted to put a plus on the first lines, but ... We, the heirs of those who built the great USSR, should bend under these nouveau riche ?! Adapt to that shit ?! I will never agree!
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 8 December 2019 12: 02 New
        0
        Quote: at84432384
        We, the heirs of those who built the great USSR

        Fucking you "heir". Yap irresponsible, unreasonable.

        IMHO, naturally yes
  10. Vladimir Lenin
    Vladimir Lenin 7 December 2019 16: 44 New
    +1
    Nothing to do with my apartment! Although my grandmothers had something similar, the truth is they are still comrade. Stalin was seen live and at the funeral! And yes, it was like that.
  11. Lopatov
    Lopatov 7 December 2019 17: 22 New
    +3
    The interior of the Soviet apartment until 1967.

    Tumbler Mid-80s
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 21: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Spade
      Tumbler Mid-80s

      What about yule? recourse
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 7 December 2019 21: 24 New
        0
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Spade
        Tumbler Mid-80s

        What about yule? recourse

        I do not know.
        But the tumbler is certain.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 21: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          But the tumbler is certain.

          Actually, I had such a Vanka-vstanka in the 70s.
  12. kalibr
    7 December 2019 17: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: smith 55
    Yes ... What can I say, I don’t even know. This is all in the city and not lower than the regional one. I grew up and lived in a village, in 68 formed a district center, and the inhabitants of the village could not even dream of anything like that.
    In our area there was a creamery, up to 10 tons of butter per day (in the summer months) were produced, plus cheese, in the store with a roll-off ball. Doctoral or Lyubitelskaya was bought in Orenburg 250km from us. Then she disappeared.
    In the year 1980, they went to Kazakhstan, in Aktyubinsk, to buy chocolates for children on the New Year. We went into the store, our eyes went up on our foreheads, sweets of different varieties, which we never heard of.
    They bought 2 tricycles for children there (I have twins). In our area of ​​hope there was no such thing to buy.
    My conclusion: the village, our native party and government have forgotten. People in the village deserved a better attitude.

    Dear Peter! I had a series of articles here about how from 1977 to 1980 I worked as a teacher in a rural school 80 km from the regional center. EVERYTHING AS YOU HAD. I drove oil to myself and to my teachers and colleagues from the city !!! In the selmag were bread, vodka (rarely), 3-liter cans of patison, Afghan green olives and dragee sweets. All! And - I forgot - French shirts of the company "Mr. D", English dresses (to my wife's joy) and Yugoslav boots of 40 p. This was not in the city!
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 18: 03 New
      +5
      And in the village shops (general store) you could buy good books ... In the city, you cannot buy such paper for 20 kg ...
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 18: 07 New
        +2
        Books were in Uzbekistan and other republics of Central Asia.
        1. Amateur
          Amateur 7 December 2019 18: 31 New
          +6
          The best bookstore in the USSR was at the entrance to Cholpon-Ata on Issyk-Kul. There, the local publishing house on creepy paper in faint text in the early 80's printed almost all the books of Br. Strugatsky! S. Lem was there! And a whole bunch of other science fiction writers and detectives.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 7 December 2019 20: 49 New
            +1
            And friends of parents brought books from Moldavia to us! From Tiraspol, the middle and end of the 70s. Well, fruit itself, and wine and cognac to his father.
    2. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 7 December 2019 18: 25 New
      +5
      Yes, that's all I know. I have been to many cities of the USSR, from Moscow to Vladivostok, traveled all over the Urals, the situation was everywhere alike, something was not there, something was there.
      Only the Union Republics were the winners. (They are now unhappy)
      The relationship between people was different, warmer.
      But he wrote in the first comment, the party did not care about the village, but they have their own personal households, why should they help, as if they are second-class people, it’s a little insulting, although I warmly recall life in that country which, alas , no .
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 21: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: smith 55
        the party did not care about the village

        Maybe merchandisers are like that? And it was like in one village, there were scarce lights with batteries, and bourgeois fantas with Coca-Cola ...
        1. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 7 December 2019 21: 52 New
          +1
          Maybe merchandisers, but for some reason there were such merchants in the whole region, but I know that the region has probably been in all areas.
          But the question arises: Why were there other commodity experts in the Union republics? This situation was only in the RSFSR.
          Just what I don’t know, I don’t know, I’m talking about alcohol, I’ve never been involved in this business.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 21: 59 New
            0
            Quote: smith 55
            This situation was only in the RSFSR.

            The fact of the matter is that no. When I went with my grandfather from one village to another in the early 80s, they took them to take bottles, I was surprised. There were things that were in short supply in our city.
        2. Avior
          Avior 7 December 2019 22: 12 New
          +1
          Fanta and Coca-Cola is definitely in one village, not in any other :) Coca-Cola is especially
          Pepsi came across, but the phantom only in Moscow saw and tried
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 22: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Avior
            Coca-Cola is exactly in one village

            That's right. Pepsi was there, I got it all wrong. yes To me one hell that Coca that Pepsi. And in Moscow on Paveletsky they were constantly.
            1. Avior
              Avior 7 December 2019 22: 32 New
              +1
              Yes, I remember the phantom for the first time in my life, I just saw at the Moscow station
              In the villages in the 3-liter jars there was tomato juice From diluted pasta and liquid with the inscription Birch juice - I still do not know what it was
              Citro still came across
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 22: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                From diluted pasta

                I don’t know what it was made of, but I constantly drank it on the way home from school. 11 cents per glass, sort of? And few people bought birch. Why buy it, if you can type it yourself, and there’s not enough taste there. Unless it tastes very light.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 8 December 2019 00: 49 New
                  +1
                  What I mean is that in the villages in the stores there were usually waste drinks, which were in low demand, and cola or fanta was an amazing curiosity for the village
                  Yes, even for the city, especially the fantasy
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 8 December 2019 00: 55 New
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    and cola or fanta is an amazing curiosity for the village
                    Yes, even for the city, especially the fantasy

                    The fact of the matter is that there wasn’t in the city, but in some run-down village there. As in the early 80s, few people bought Cuban cigars, and Marlboro was on the counter.
              2. Karen
                Karen 7 December 2019 22: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                In the villages in the 3 liter jars stood tomato juice

                In our cities it was like that too :)
                And also there was a “muck to taste”, 3 liters of pomegranate juice :)
            2. Slavs
              Slavs 9 December 2019 00: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              To me one hell that Coca that Pepsi.

              And I remember exactly Pepsi-Cola)) Batumi 85-87gg.))
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 7 December 2019 22: 41 New
        +1
        In fact, the RSFSR was also a union republic, only the largest.
    3. WIKI
      WIKI 7 December 2019 21: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: kalibr
      I drove oil to myself and to my teachers and colleagues from the city !!!

      I will not believe that living in the countryside, it was impossible to buy oil from fellow villagers. At such a distance from the market, the price on hand could not differ much from the city one. The difference in price easily paid off with fat content. Have you ever consumed real homemade butter?
      1. Avior
        Avior 7 December 2019 22: 33 New
        0
        Have you ever seen villages in which almost no one had cows?
      2. Liam
        Liam 7 December 2019 23: 01 New
        0
        Quote: WIKI
        I do not believe that living in the countryside, it was impossible to buy oil from fellow villagers

        It seems to me that you only saw a cow and rural life in the internet. For 1 kg of butter you need 40/50 liters of milk (fresh). And the average Soviet village burenka, God forbid, gave 7-8 liters. Or do you think that in the villages people kept 10 cows at the farm?
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 7 December 2019 23: 28 New
          +2
          So 7 or 8. Or maybe 10-12. You don’t tell me arithmetic. I spent all my childhood in 1974 in the village.
          1. Liam
            Liam 7 December 2019 23: 35 New
            0
            And you don’t know such elementary things?
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 8 December 2019 09: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              And you don’t know such elementary things?
              Do not fry fever, sort it out. A good cow with two milkings (per day) will give out a kilo of oil. And you have 40-50 kg ... So the rest is stolen. request
              1. WIKI
                WIKI 8 December 2019 12: 20 New
                +2
                I didn’t want to answer this intellectual. If you make a simple calculation, it turns out that with an average fat content of whole milk 3,67% out of 10 liters, we get pure fat 367 grams, and 30 more than a kilogram. Considering that 82 grams of moisture / kg is present in 160% fat oil, what are 40-50 kg?
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 8 December 2019 12: 41 New
                  -1
                  Quote: WIKI
                  Considering that 82 grams of moisture / kg is present in 160% fat oil, what are 40-50 kg?
                  Maybe they consider it by a different technique. Take, for example, the weight of the butter that is whipped on a chain suspended inside the milk tanker, on the way from the dairy farm to the oil mill, in relation to the weight of the remaining milk from which the butter is again made, although they complain that the fat content is low. There were many options, because socialism is a consideration.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 8 December 2019 04: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: Liam
          For 1 kg of butter, you need 40/50 liters of milk (fresh).) And the average Soviet village burenka, God forbid, gave 7-8 liters for milk.

          Even for oil of 100% fat content a bit too much.
          After all, homemade milk will be fatter.
          Are you sure you are up to date?
          1. Liam
            Liam 8 December 2019 09: 38 New
            +2
            More than. The fat content of milk depends on the breed of the cow and its feed. And not on whether it is homemade or from the farm. Plus the process itself. At home, it is almost impossible to get butter in any commercial quantities. Therefore, no one did this even then
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 8 December 2019 11: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: Liam
              The fat content of milk depends on the breed of the cow and its feed

              I ask you: stop writing to everyone known things.
              The fat content of cow's milk does not depend on the breed, but milk yield.
              Usually, homemade milk is precisely because it is fatter because livestock grazing has good grass.
              Unlike farm cows.
              Just count, math is as simple as twice two.
              Do you not think that in peasant farms they beat oil by hand in the old fashioned way?
              Stop arguing stubbornly with people familiar with rural life firsthand.
              1. Blacksmith 55
                Blacksmith 55 8 December 2019 14: 31 New
                0
                Fat content and milk yield depend on the breed. And from the feed as well. Feed only grass, or give compound feeds, a big difference. And there are still manual separators in the hinterland, and the oil is beaten by hand, naturally from only one or two cows.
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              3. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 12 December 2019 13: 02 New
                0
                You know, some grandmothers beat in the old fashioned way. Pour half a three-liter can of milk (or cream) and shake vigorously for a long time.)
        3. region58
          region58 8 December 2019 18: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Liam
          For 1 kg of butter you need 40/50 liters of milk

          Duc, this ... Cream was removed ... for several days, then all this in buttermilk and already buttermilk from buttermilk. A wooden pakhtulka, inside something like a paddle wheel like the first steamboats, only four or six blades, I don’t remember, the handle is turned from the outside. Or in a three-liter jar - inside the cream and a spoon, close it with a plastic lid and shake it. Long. I had to twist and shake, I was still small then ... repeat Something like that in the stove my grandmother threw it out - but I won’t lie, I don’t remember. I only remember - it was delicious ...
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 9 December 2019 02: 21 New
            0
            Quote: region58
            Something like that in the stove my grandmother threw it out - but I won’t lie, I don’t remember

            Melted butter? A good thing if you beat a lot of oil, for safety.
            But did the village make butter from baked milk, such as Vologda?
            1. region58
              region58 9 December 2019 11: 05 New
              -1
              Quote: Flood
              baked milk butter

              Yeah, yeah, it looks like I’m remembering it. yes One delicious food to another ... I don’t remember the process itself - there was still a snotty one ...
      3. Slavs
        Slavs 9 December 2019 00: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: WIKI
        Have you ever consumed real homemade butter?

        They beat the butter themselves ... There was a cow.
    4. sniperino
      sniperino 8 December 2019 08: 51 New
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      French Mr. D shirts, English dresses (for the joy of his wife) and Yugoslavian shoes of 40 p. This was not in the city!
      There was a shortage in the city, it immediately diverged from under the floor, it was not visible on the shelves. In Moscow, the chances of buying something modern, fashionable, good were much greater than in ordinary regional or district centers. There were 3 factors in the village: 1) consumer cooperation worked, 2) people lived poorly in the village, they didn’t pursue fashion, 3) corruption in the city develops faster due to anonymity, and the villagers all know each other: if something interesting was brought to the village , they still will not have time to capitalize, they will already know everything. In 1981, he bought a Japanese jacket (on a synthetic winterizer, probably) for 70 rubles. in the "deaf man"
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 8 December 2019 09: 23 New
        0
        PS
        Quote: sniperino
        3 factors acted in the village
        But in the whole country in the 60s, the consequences of the Khrushchev monetary reform became noticeable: the ruble was underestimated and the purchasing power of the ruble in relation to imported goods decreased 2,25 times. The domestic market also dipped. If before the reform by 30 p. it was possible to eat and drink in a restaurant, then at the end of the 70s in some restaurants a three-ruble note had to be thrust only at the entrance to the doorman.
  13. bober1982
    bober1982 7 December 2019 18: 12 New
    +1
    Such interiors of Soviet apartments did not exist, and there were no icons, including among neighbors, they lived poorly until the end of the 60s, then it became better.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 19: 50 New
      +3
      Where did the gramophone come from? This is an anachronism, at that time there were already radio stations and players. Icons, like in Russian antiquity, went fashion somewhere from the mid 70's.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 7 December 2019 20: 00 New
        0
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Icons, like in Russian antiquity, went fashion somewhere from the mid 70's.

        Under Khrushchev there was a persecution of the Church, comparable to the persecution of the Roman emperors, then, after his overthrow, by inertia everything continued until the end of the 60s and beginning of the 70s, and then, all right, relief began in the mid-70s.
        The grandmother had an icon.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 20: 03 New
          0
          It is not even a matter of religion, believers had icons under Khrushchev as well. It’s just that in the 70s fashion for Russian antiques went. Icons, Zhostovo trays, palekh, Khokhloma, Gzhel.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 7 December 2019 20: 07 New
            0
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            It’s just that fashion went into the 70s

            And, on golden teeth, and on red terry socks (what a horror)
      2. mark1
        mark1 7 December 2019 20: 37 New
        +3
        We had a gramophone. constantly there weren’t enough needles and the plates are very, very fragile. Still sometimes my mother brought a tape recorder from work (school), a tube (there were a lot of kilograms, oh, I was small, I couldn’t lift it, I couldn’t even move it, it’s clear that my mother was helped). I also remembered the constant female chatter, mothers with friends, about hairpieces.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 22: 31 New
          0
          When he was small, he naively thought that in a gramophone a spring drives a generator. And then, as in an electric player: the electric motor rotates the plate, ULF, etc. Child of progress.
    2. Avior
      Avior 7 December 2019 22: 13 New
      +1
      I had the same buffet from my grandmother’s apartment in the garage, the tool and everything else lay
  14. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 7 December 2019 18: 13 New
    +5
    But to order a cake for some celebration was in Penza at that time a big problem. It was necessary to go to the overproduction, ask, explain, persuade. And they told you directly that they better make ten ordinary cakes than one to order. Unprofitable! You offer a lot of money ... Do not take. You can’t take more than a serial cake! Price for weight. Work does not count. And I ordered a basket with strawberries, then with mushrooms ... If it weren’t for my ability to convince, my wife wouldn’t see such beautiful cakes then. Some kind of game, right? But it was so!
    Dear Vladislav Olegovich. I do not know how you do in Penza, but in Novomoskovsk, Tula region, where I worked in 1979-1982. at the procurements factory of the city canteens trust, first as a confectioner’s apprentice, then a 3rd category baker, and finally as a loader in the confectionery expedition, the order of the cake was as follows: any citizen, I emphasize ANYONE again, came to the cookery at the factory, brought a tray and put it on him a piece of paper on which he wrote his name, for example, "Shpakovsky", the weight of the cake he ordered, for example, "1,5 kg" and the date when he needed to receive the order. On the indicated day, he went to cookery in the afternoon, called his last name, the cookery seller called the confectionery expedition, and from there (usually a loader, that is, me) brought the cake. A citizen paid for the ordered cake by weight and took it. Problems arose only before the big holidays, when the people massively tried to purchase cakes, for example, before the New Year.
    1. kalibr
      7 December 2019 18: 53 New
      +2
      As it was with me, I wrote. Why should I think up?
      1. iury.vorgul
        iury.vorgul 8 December 2019 06: 16 New
        +1
        And I do not say what you invented. It was just different in different cities of the Union. As, by the way, and now ...
  15. kalibr
    7 December 2019 18: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Phil77
    Stuffed cabbage forgotten, Vyacheslav Olegovich! * Globus * stuffed cabbage.

    Sergey, I didn’t forget, but the material already swelled before our eyes, if everything was listed. I remember a lot of things ... I remember a joke - Heck and Herring met: “She is to him, hello,“ a friend of the workers. ”He said to her“ Great Obkomovskaya (the word is forbidden in VO). ”But here we need to clarify we are talking about herring, the usual salty She was thin and not greasy in all forms, so you won’t remember everything because of the volume of the text!
  16. kalibr
    7 December 2019 18: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: VeteranVSSSR
    A note to the author, but not a line about galoshes ...

    About galoshes, Gennady, will be in the memoir about the school ...
  17. kalibr
    7 December 2019 18: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: bober1982
    and there were no icons

    There were, as they were!
  18. Gardamir
    Gardamir 7 December 2019 19: 01 New
    +2
    Why the Soviet Union is constantly judged in terms of these



    Well, of course, there were no free apartments, they didn’t go to resorts for trips, there were bandits on the streets. Toys from the fifties, besides museum exhibits, are poorly preserved, you do not need to pass off this junk as Soviet reality.
    There were no homeless people, drug addicts. Why is this anti-Soviet ... In support of the prime minister? and write about your mistresses having their planes. The Soviet Union has died. Stop shitting on his grave.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 19: 10 New
      +3
      Bandits, or rather - there were gopniks. In Kazan, for example, it was very unsafe. And in the cultural capital in the evening it was not recommended to walk in all areas. There were homeless people, too, but they were deported from large cities, as they say "for 101 kilometers" and there were drug addicts, but they carefully concealed this.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 7 December 2019 19: 40 New
        0
        but it was carefully concealed.
        Judging by the minuses to me and the pluses to you. I take my words back. Yes, the Soviet Union is a fiend of evil and a bunch of vices!
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 19: 43 New
          +2
          The USSR was not a fiend of evil, there were many good things, but there were plenty of shortcomings. However, as now.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 7 December 2019 20: 17 New
            +2
            However, as now
            I agree with that. Only in my opinion, telling dirt about the past is the same as pouring mud on parents who raised them. Mr. Caliber wants to talk about his childhood, let him tell how the children of the poor live well now.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 22: 36 New
              0
              The history of the USSR is the story of a parent who, in his youth, built a house with solid extensions, planted a beautiful garden. And then he either set off with his mind, or swelled. He dirtied the house, parasites gnawed the garden, and the neighbors took apart the annexes.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 7 December 2019 23: 22 New
      0
      There were homeless people, drug addicts, and bandits.
    3. Slavs
      Slavs 9 December 2019 00: 36 New
      +2
      Vyacheslav Olegovich had a very hard life under the USSR without jeans in Penza ... This is a red thread through all the articles ... Given the skill of the PR man and the indefatigable love of Western culture, we will not hear anything good about the Union ...
      1. kalibr
        9 December 2019 20: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Slavs
        Vyacheslav Olegovich lived very hard under the USSR without jeans in Penza ...

        I just had jeans. And different. And being an assistant professor at the Higher School of Economics and a lecturer at the RK CPSU and OK Komsomol, I just lived better than many. But with something was the 91st, right. And I don’t want a repetition. And so that it wasn’t better to know where we stumbled. And then each of us has his own business. Someone earns on what is being built. it doesn't matter what a barn or palace. Someone on the fact that this is collapsing ... in both cases the keyword "earns". But what bad things you saw in this article. Others just like her ... Isn't it strange? Maybe it's biased?
  19. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 19: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: bober1982
    and there were no icons

    There were, as they were!

    There were, as they were ...
    Grandson, look, this is the grandfather, your man’s, and this one (in the upper room) is common ...
    Why so, I didn’t ask. in a word...
  20. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 7 December 2019 19: 14 New
    +7
    About twenty years ago, my ex-team leader told me the following: when I returned from the army, I started working at the North Sea Transport Zone, got a two-room apartment, bought a car * Moskvich *.

    My achievements in forty-four years are bought two stealth bikes. I don’t have my own home, I live from paycheck to paycheck. I have a Lenovo tablet. I’m writing everything from him.
    Such a squiggle.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 7 December 2019 21: 12 New
      +1
      Each in his own way. I have a good relationship with two fellow students. It seems that they all graduated from one institute, got married plus or minus a year ... Even in one company, they worked together for ten years. Then the crisis came ...
      At first one "budded", then I left. Who has a divorce, who has a blockage at work. Recently gathered, looked at each other ... One plows like an ox by the boss. Wife, one son, couple in the capital,
      cars, but there’s no time for family and friends.
      The second got divorced, a free shooter at work, misses his daughter and hates the “ex”, he never got his own angle, the service car.
      I spat on my career and went to a friend in submission. Own apartment in the suburbs, two children, a car with his wife. Often we go to rest and travel, but when meeting with distant acquaintances, they wrinkle their foreheads - tyzh, like the boss was?
      So ... Who fought for what, what did he strive for ... But not one of us hoped for a state or a good uncle - all just for yourself!
  21. kalibr
    7 December 2019 19: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    The author does not seem to have visited ordinary food stores in the Novgorod or Pskov regions. Sprats in tomato and three-liter jars with cucumbers were definitely there. The rest is mainly from the realm of fiction.

    Did not attend. He lived in Penza from 1954 to 2019. Everything passed and passes before my eyes. Only sweat was on the market today, buying local apples at 50 p. kg and a rabbit for 750 r.
    1. Karen
      Karen 7 December 2019 22: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      and a rabbit for 750 r.

      There was a cooptorg stew of rabbit ... 5re.
  22. roma13xz
    roma13xz 7 December 2019 19: 24 New
    +1
    A friend found in the basement, the price is 10-20, vodka of the early nineties
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 7 December 2019 20: 19 New
      +1
      I still have one! some bottles! used to be more, right now a little remains.
      1. DWG1905
        DWG1905 7 December 2019 20: 40 New
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        I’ll add a little nostalgia for https://drawingstanks.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_26.html my modest collection, and that’s all about vodka, although Cuban rum was good, and cigarette portogas took my eyes out.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 7 December 2019 20: 56 New
          +2
          And also * Caribbean *, * Ligeros *, * Upmann *. Ohho-ho, an incredible fortress! And the paper is sweet to my lips sticky. laughing
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 December 2019 21: 30 New
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          Quote: DWG1905
          and cigarettes portogaz tear out your eyes.

          Ho Chi Minh's footcloths were also. crying
    2. BAI
      BAI 8 December 2019 18: 48 New
      +1
      In 1990, in the village of Uchi, Krasnoyarsk Territory, drinking alcohol cost 10-50 0,5 liters. Why do I call Uchi - I have never met drinking alcohol (Soviet) anywhere else.
  23. kalibr
    7 December 2019 20: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: Gardamir
    how children of beggars live well now.

    And why are there people who are always drawn into the mud? Want to save the disadvantaged? Become a volunteer or with a social service.
  24. kalibr
    7 December 2019 21: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    So ... Who fought for what, what did he strive for ... But not one of us hoped for a state or a good uncle - all just for yourself!

    Very well said, in my opinion. I am convinced that everything is back to square one with age. And who was striving for what - he gets it, if he does not sit idle, of course. For example, I always wanted to write ... so I write in the end. Already 40 books have been published. I wanted to have fewer bosses over myself, and ... I never had many of them. Himself not to be the boss ... I also wanted to. And he was not, although offered. I wanted ... just to live for my pleasure, and everything ended up working out. But there is no oil rig. And never hoped for a state. Let it not interfere, but I myself somehow ...
    1. region58
      region58 8 December 2019 19: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      oil rig

      Speaking of oil. There are many oil tanks in Montazhnoye, which local residents were engaged in the installation of. The volume of work was large (visible on satellite maps). Initially, the military dealt with these matters, but residents of the surrounding villages were also involved in the work. Gradually, a permanent housing was built for them, where the installers moved with their families. Well, the village remained - Mounting. They told me such a story. I do not pretend to the truth in the last resort, as they say - for which I bought ...
    2. Slavs
      Slavs 9 December 2019 00: 55 New
      +2
      I wonder what the concepts of "civic duty" and "military duty" tell you about?
      Do you feel at least something obliged to the country that educated you or in which you currently live? Or just think about yourself? People like you won 91 ... We have a country where everyone thinks only of himself and spits on others, wondering why all the same welfare will not come?
      My life was different. We were taught - die yourself, and help a comrade. And what the Motherland begins with is not seen in the picture in the ABC Book. High mountain outposts. Barracks. And we still love our homeland.
      THE USSR. It is very unpleasant to read how you inspire those who did not know the country that everything was bad there, deliberately sticking out just the flaws. This applies not only to this article, but also to the previous ones.
  25. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 7 December 2019 21: 49 New
    +1
    Bravo, Vyacheslav Olegovich !!! That's honest, simple, bravo !!! When my dust is scattered over the Neva, this cycle of your articles will be quoted in history books!
    PS For opponents, I am not a fan of Shpakovsky’s work, we argue regularly ...
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 7 December 2019 22: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      When my dust will be scattered over the Neva

      Good evening Anton! Why would there be such mourning? The task is to survive to a minimum of 70 and above! Why? And hunting with * people in black * retire for some years ... well, how much it will turn out! hi
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 7 December 2019 22: 45 New
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        And what will I do in these 70 ??? Increase Alzheimer's and Parkinson's statistics?
        (It is only about me!)
        1. kalibr
          8 December 2019 07: 57 New
          +1
          Work your head, Anton, do not eat from aluminum dishes, drink black coffee 1-2 times a day and Alzheimer is not afraid of you!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 December 2019 11: 12 New
            0
            It seems to me that Ronald Reagan complied with these rules. However...
    2. kalibr
      7 December 2019 22: 06 New
      +1
      Glad Anton, what did you like.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 7 December 2019 22: 29 New
        +2
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, why could I not like ??? It was so! I can adjust every second sentence in the article, adjusted for 10 years and 2500 kilometers of difference, but it was!
        And, I want to separately note for your haters, in this material Shpakovsky never "bit" the Soviet government!
  26. kalibr
    7 December 2019 22: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: WIKI
    I will not believe that living in the countryside, it was impossible to buy oil from fellow villagers. At such a distance from the market, the price on hand could not differ much from the city one. The difference in price easily paid off with fat content. Have you ever consumed real homemade butter?

    Believe do not believe ... What am I? The locals had oil. But they did not sell it, but handed it over to the state in exchange ... for carpets! Such was the fashion. And how is it that the neighbor has more carpets than mine? Therefore, sell to the side ... why? And you think that for 65 years I have not tried homemade butter? I tried ... but not in 1977 -80.
  27. kalibr
    7 December 2019 22: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    this series of your articles will be quoted in history textbooks!

    No, Anton! In the history books will get completely different articles and materials. In the textbook on the history of the Middle Ages, two of my books are already included as reading books, soon a couple more will be released - they will be included. And this ... so, memories of what was and no more. I want to write a book about childhood here. But there is no time at all ...
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 7 December 2019 22: 38 New
      +1
      Vyacheslav Olegovich! Pushkin somehow “pawned” with Zhukovsky and wrote a poem, and Harms pinned and wrote literary anecdotes. Both are now quoted ...
  28. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 7 December 2019 23: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Karen
    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    So, experts, the smell of vanilla came from the bottle, like from a candy store, there was practically no smell of alcohol.

    Then I had a chance to somehow get drunk with the export version of our cognac ... to taste - as if it carried chocolate ...

    Somehow in the morning I woke up after all that you wrote ...
    In short, as if in the evening I read the newspaper ...
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  30. edelweiss968
    edelweiss968 8 December 2019 00: 31 New
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    bear blood, Tokai, ruby ​​liquor, not to mention three axes, arpachai, 1 autumn 28 rubles each. Student sausage, bloody and liverwurst, not to mention Moscow and cervelat. butter was of 4 types - simple, salty, melted and Vologda. in addition to sprats in tomato sauce, there was canned food for those hamsa in plastic - kapron, a jar, sardine was ubiquitous - even in oil, even in tomato, and meatballs in tomato sauce. . Yes, not everywhere was the whole assortment, in the national republics the supply was better. Bulgarian tobacco was everywhere, as were Cuban cigars. in addition to stuffed peppers, there was vegetable caviar and Danube salad. I can’t even speak of juices, which in many stores worked as dust collectors, and stood on shelves before the expiration date. with technology was strained. that household, that avtomoto - all in turn. although not everywhere. in addition to co-trade, there were also komissionki - and there was already a lot from behind the hill.
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  31. faterdom
    faterdom 8 December 2019 01: 42 New
    +2
    Herring in tanks and flat metal cans

    In large metal cans, the so-called "Iwashi Herring" was sold. Which is not really a herring, but a Pacific sardine. They decided to name herring the Soviet leaders of the food industry, so that the people would understand about what kind of fish it was and how to use it.
    After Soviet times, she was gone, fishermen say that she simply has not been in the ocean all these years. But then she appeared again and is being mined! I tried today - this is some kind of holiday! Thing!
  32. nikvic46
    nikvic46 8 December 2019 08: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: A_2010
    New heading for VO? what for? meaning? once again show which scoop was the bottom? for comparison, they would show better photos of a typical apartment in the USA or France at the same time

    Typical for whom? And what prevents you from buying such an apartment?
  33. nikvic46
    nikvic46 8 December 2019 09: 05 New
    +1
    I’ll leave sweet memories with me. Surrogate food is surrogate reasoning. Now there are two concepts about standards. The Soviet have left for export, and the rest is ours. . You will not find a single prophylactic for intestinal parasites, for infections. But it was all before.
  34. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 8 December 2019 12: 49 New
    +2
    Guys! I don’t want to offend anyone, but in Dnepropetrovsk in the? 0 and early to mid-80s this was all normal ..... And crabs and condensed milk and sausages (3-4) varieties and butter 2-3 types LEFT! on the shelves. and there were no queues ... (in any case, such as some affectors describe) IMHO ...... (I just live long enough (s)) .... (I'm surprised myself) belay
  35. kalibr
    8 December 2019 13: 17 New
    0
    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    The taste and smell of vodka is disgusting ...

    The same thing Arkady! Even Polish bison ... But whiskey is OK. Why's that?
  36. BAI
    BAI 8 December 2019 18: 34 New
    +1
    1.
    TV and clock ... We had them until the move to the apartment building in 1976 year!

    Record TV. Parts are connected not by soldering, but by welding. My brother and I accidentally dropped it (in childhood), he was lying on his side and worked, albeit a tube.
    2. "Abu simbel." A rare muck. One of the nastiest memories of the time.
    3.
    Well, I had to make a mortar and stand for a typewriter

    Today I held one in my hands and wondered: "Is this a toy or a real machine?"
    1. kalibr
      8 December 2019 20: 09 New
      0
      Quote: BAI
      Today I held one in my hands and wondered: "Is this a toy or a real machine?"

      Have you seen a black and gold typewriter? I did it myself!
      1. BAI
        BAI 8 December 2019 22: 27 New
        +1
        Podolsk usual - is, black with yellow metal, and small - blue.
        1. kalibr
          8 December 2019 22: 30 New
          0
          All that remained for me was a dollhouse, for my granddaughter's dollhouse. One of my homemade and one Chinese metal, some well-known company - just a photo from her. And the real ... the daughter, Japanese, something enchanting. It sews itself, embroiders itself ...
  37. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 December 2019 19: 30 New
    +1
    The beautiful is far from being cruel to us.
  38. nnz226
    nnz226 8 December 2019 21: 41 New
    0
    Kucheryavo lived in Penza in 1974! In Rybinsk (this is where the well-known PJSC Saturn is now, and then colloquially - “Twentieth”) there was nothing except pasta and cereals !!! There was no talk of any condensed milk, not to mention cheese, butter, etc. I don’t mention meat and sausage, due to their lack of trade from the word "completely"! In the aforementioned year, he entered LCI, and drove a full bag of grub from the “city of three revolutions” to his parents and sister on vacation!
    1. kalibr
      8 December 2019 22: 16 New
      0
      There you go, Nikolay! And our interruptions began only from the year 78, and it became completely bad in 1982. But in 1987, when there were coupons in both Penza and Samara (Kuibyshev), I went to Minsk and there ... it was just a heap, but then I went there in 1991 and it became like everywhere else. And very fast, right?
  39. X Y Z
    X Y Z 9 December 2019 13: 45 New
    +1
    As for costumes, everything is correctly described. The costumes were often of high quality, ours and imports. But they mostly had the two most popular sizes 52, 2 growth and 54, 3 growth. And, as luck would have it, at this very time (the 70s of the last century) the young generation ran over with dimensions 48, 50, growth 4 ... 5. It was not clear who bought all this abroad and what he thought when he made it in our country.
  40. Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 9 December 2019 15: 20 New
    +1
    I am 69 years old. If you make out the compositions in the photo, it will be more or less normal. But they are selected as a hash of different years. As for moonshine, it was best made from beer: from 6 bottles of beer we got half a liter of cool pervach. Burned and smelled of bread. 6 beers of 45 kopecks minus 6 bottles of 20 kopecks will turn out 1rub 70 kopecks of excellent "whiskey". A bottle for two and nothing else. drinks
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 9 December 2019 20: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhalych
      If you make out the compositions in the photo, it will be more or less normal. But they are selected as a hash of different years.

      Indeed, there is a mixture of different objects in the composition - for example, I have not seen icons, chests and a spinning wheel in anyone in a city apartment. This is a clear discrepancy for the period of the 60-80s.
      1. kalibr
        9 December 2019 20: 43 New
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        Quote: ccsr
        Indeed, there is a mixture of different objects in the composition - for example, I have not seen icons, chests and a spinning wheel in anyone in a city apartment. This is a clear discrepancy for the period of the 60-80s.

        All claims to the museum in Kaliningrad.
  41. Doliva63
    Doliva63 9 December 2019 18: 17 New
    0
    I did not live in Penza, but I condemn. Some kind of chuhn.
    PS. Not a Muscovite, if that.
  42. KAA_57
    KAA_57 11 December 2019 12: 51 New
    0
    The remake in the photo hurts the eyes. Antique styling by placing spinning wheels in an apartment in the 70s has not yet reached. Tables and chairs are more likely from the 50s, as well as a sewing machine. TV from the 60s. A gramophone in the 70s is very rare, in 1973 I had a Mayak-201 tape recorder. Strict gray wallpaper - not at all in tone, then they preferred something "more alive".
  43. Martin
    Martin 12 December 2019 18: 57 New
    0
    Here, many discuss the price of vodka, but do not know (or do not remember) that the price of vodka in the USSR was set strictly on a scientific basis. 2,87 - it was the price for a half-liter bottle. But on sale were still “fry” (they are “chekushki”, they are also “scales”) with a volume of a quarter liter at a price of 1r49kop. A very popular option, when the "half a liter" can not be collected.
    So: 1,49 to the degree of 2,87 is the number "pi". Who has not forgotten how to raise a power, you can check yourself. laughing