Back to the Land of Soviets. Bra for a boy


Here it is, the building of the museum of I.N. Ulyanov in Penza. There is a room with very interesting exhibits, which are dedicated to rapidly departing fashion ...


Four-year-old Pavlik quickly jumped out of bed and “dressed himself”, that is, he pulled back a bra with linen buttons and put his bare feet in his shoes.
V. Kataev. Lonely sail whitens


History and documents. We continue the series of publications on the history of the USSR, based on copyright memories. This time the memories will be both “very” old and “not very” at the same time. Reason: the new hall, which opened in the Penza Museum of I.N. Ulyanova and dedicated to fashion at the end of the 19th and only the 20th century. I went there, looked, asked the director for permission to take a picture. So, in fact, this material appeared.


Even in the house there was such a Singer sewing machine. Not foot, manual. It didn’t survive, but I made an exact copy of it on a matchbox for my daughter ...

But let's start with the memories. At first, that is, as I began to remember myself, I did not realize what was happening. Children are like animals, they give - they take, they beat them - they cry, and why, what and how, the kids are not aware. So I did not know why we had such a house: only two rooms and a kitchen, walls that for some reason did not reach the ceiling. A huge stove that needs to be heated with wood and coal, and even cooked on it, and next to it there is a washstand and a sloppy bucket of disgusting appearance, which was required to be poured daily and many times. Water was brought into the house from the street, first grandfather, then mother and grandmother. Grandfather slept at the very door leading to the canopy, grandmother slept in the hall on the sofa, and only my mother and I had a separate small room with a huge wardrobe, two of our beds, a desk and an oval-shaped carved table on one leg , covered with a knitted lace tablecloth, on which in a large pot-bellied glass container a disgusting kind of tea mushroom floated, the "shekals" of which had to be drunk. In the hall there was a round table with a large kerosene lamp, above it, under a yellow lampshade made of fabric - an electric lamp. Between the windows there is a huge pier glass under the ceiling, fan palm trees by the windows, and in the corner there is a black radio plate and Record TV. Well, there’s a dresser with a clock, a bookcase, armchairs, chairs, a buffet ... In a word, you won’t run around. The floor was covered with a huge carpet (the figure shows the palace, but this is wrong).

Back to the Land of Soviets. Bra for a boy
Here the hall looked. Author's drawing

Later I learned that my grandfather during the war was the director of the city administration, that he has two orders - Lenin and the Badge of Honor, but for some reason he sleeps at the door to the very entrance. “But he is alive,” he answered me when asked about “improving housing conditions,” and that was the end of the conversation. It is interesting that the furniture, although of various sizes, was generally very beautiful and of high quality, except for a buffet bought already in my memory.


Similar magazines were kept in our attic


But this is a fashion magazine already in 1985

And among all this, I had to be in the early years, especially when it was impossible to go outside, that is, in autumn, when it is cold and dirty, in winter, when snow and frost, and in spring, when everything melts and is wet. That is, most of the year. After all, we must remember that there was no asphalt on our street then. I had to walk on wooden sidewalks - boards stuffed with transverse logs, and all this squished, slipped, drowned in mud. The yards of the neighboring boys, like mine, were little adapted for games, so little children had to play the role of “prisoners”.


In addition to the “Record”, this “Start” was also produced

Already much later, after reading “The Lone Sail Whitens” by Valentin Kataev and “The Brokeback Bear” by Evgeny Permyak, I was surprised at how the childhood of the heroes of these books is described there and how it looks like my own! The same lamps and rugs on the floor. True, I have a school, they have a gymnasium, but even the uniform, and that was similar to the gymnasium until 1963. And the clothes of young children were just one to one!


1910 summer coat!


And this is a fashion show in 1957 in Penza in the Palace of Culture. Dzerzhinsky

For example, at the most tender age I was supposed to have long satin shorts in the summer and warm panties in the winter. Mike, and on top of it - well, exactly the same flannel bra as Pavlik’s, but I always tried to wear it with buttons in front. He had two straps, walked at the level of the abdomen and chest, and below him were four harnesses sewn with very tricky stockings. Stockings, brown in a rib, had no gum at the top and, of course, fell off their feet. They were fastened to these fasteners, and the grief was bitter, if suddenly in decent society they were unfastened. The fact is that on a visit to the relatives of the children then they were dressed in short pants such as shorts, again on the help (well, just like in another cult film, “Chuck and Huck”), crossed at the back and straight in front. And the stockings from under them were visible, of course.


And this is a 1976 light overcoat

Surprisingly, the boys in these shortest panties did not have stockings at least from under them, but for the girls the fashion was simply amazing: short skirts in the mouth, under them multi-colored panties of delicate color shades, and from under them just these very harnesses with fasteners stuck out, and just enough so that the bare skin between the stocking and the skirt was visible! A modern person can admire this strange fashion in the movie First Grader (1948). Especially in the scene where the boy Seryozha comes to visit the "first grader", and a crowd of girls meets him in the hallway.


1977 Cloak and Hat. In this I went, only in a light and with a white silk scarf. Like in the movie "Beat First, Freddy!"

However, the leggings sticking out from under the skirts of the girls and bare legs with stockings didn’t cause any “such” thoughts for me, and even for the other boys. It was just that this strip was a tempting target ... for shooting from a finger slingshot from a Hungarian gum! And the best reward to anyone who got there was a loud girlish screech! But it was not necessary to wear stockings short on fasteners!


In the USSR there were many woolen dresses, many of which were knitted, and they were knitted in special ateliers to order

The girls also had panties with elastic bands around their legs. The boys were strictly forbidden to wear them ... unwritten street rules. “He has girlish underpants! Beat him!" So then we usually screamed, it was worth noting. Therefore, as I got older, I just demanded that I do not buy this. “But it’s convenient,” my mother told me, “and“ underneath ”(as they said in the late 19th and in the mid-20th century about upper and lower clothes)!” But I was adamant, knowing that if they saw such a thing on me, then I would not be happy. The same attitude, however, already when I was in school, for some reason, existed with respect to pants. They were different, again in pastel colors, and insulated, while in adults they are mostly white and “canvas”. That is, in winter, in the cold, under uniform school trousers, you could put on sports pants. But not pants! As soon as someone on someone saw them in preparation for a physical education lesson (and we then changed clothes right in the classroom), a loud cry rang out right there: Beat him!" Why it was necessary to beat everyone, let’s say, who differed in clothes from others, I couldn’t understand, but that was the norm in our lives.

Adult aunts used belts. Of course, not as erotic as in modern films of the corresponding content, but they performed their function. Or two-finger rubber bands that were worn over stockings and worn on the hips. Doctors did not recommend children giving such a thing, they say, they “pull the vessels”.

And how to wear men socks without elastic bands? To do this, we used "garters", also rubber, but with buckles that blinked to fix them on the leg below the knee. And each such “garter” had a harness with a fastener for a sock. By the way, it is precisely about such a men's garter that we are talking about in A. Gaidar’s short story “The Fate of a Drummer” and the movie of the same name. Usually they wore them over the underpants, and this was very inconvenient, since they also sometimes fell, with socks, and shamefully crawled out from the legs. This was immediately called the "garter." Like, watch your toilet!


60s fashion ... A little more and miniskirts will appear!

However, only somewhere until the 8th grade, and there we already became much more tolerant and educated. And before that ... Oh, some of us were all savages, by golly! One boy during the rehearsal of the next litmontage, on which our "class" from the 1st to the 4th grade was obsessed, described himself ... and ran to the toilet, leaving behind a drop ... So what? The whole class rushed there behind him, with wild cries: “Hit him, he pissed!”


The suitcases were just awful. Fiber, with iron corners. To “hide” everything, they put covers on them. But they were not allowed to wear suitcases in covers abroad, and in 1968 my mother and I had to buy brand new ones for a trip to Bulgaria

It was hard at school for the chubby ones, those who were overweight. (Not like now, as I look. Nobody pays attention to them at school. I asked my granddaughter many times.) But we used to have insulting nicknames: Zhirtrest, Zhiryaga and the like. And at a break they pushed full with shouts: "Squeeze out fat from fat!" Such was the wonderful Soviet upbringing that many today regret so much!


Headwear

Until 1968, children had little clothing. In summer, we ran in T-shirts, underpants and satin bloomers, and in spring and autumn, if it was warm, for example, I was given an old little coat called “three-run three-piece”, a cap (just like the “cap” of Emil from Lönneberg), which I very fond of, and old paid pants. Reason for love: in this I was allowed to wallow on the ground anywhere! For example, we lay down on the embankment of the railway and rolled down a "log". Naturally, with such wild games, any decent clothes were simply contraindicated for children. Personally, when I returned from the street, my appearance was often worse than that of the current homeless person.


Baby clothes. A lot of knitted things. My wife then also constantly knitted something on my daughter ... By the way, imported suede boots (on the left) at that time cost 125 rubles - a whole salary!

It is interesting again that running in the street in summer was possible only in shorts, and in swimming trunks, which also did not have elastic bands and were tied on two ropes on the sides, in no case. This was called “running naked”, and for this we were punished by the fact that then we were not allowed to go outside! Strange fashion, strange customs ...


The beginning of the 90s - ha ha! New songs, new people, new "outfit"


And coupons. Well, what without them? Groats, pasta, eggs ... vodka! By the way, the year is 1992! March


PS The author thanks the administration of the museum, I.N. Ulyanov in Penza for help in organizing photography.
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  1. Mikhail m April 16 2020 04: 45 New
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    And no one ran around the courts, getting in the face. And on many other occasions. And squealing was considered a shame. And they went to school unaccompanied. And they lived simply according to the concepts of justice.
    1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 05: 10 New
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      but even the form, and that was similar to the gymnasium until 1963.

      First grade 1964. The form is gone. I mean gymnasium

      underpants and satin harem pants

      Harem pants sometimes changed 2 times a day, they benefited literally in 15 minutes smile
      Thank you for the article hi
      Visited childhood smile
      1. rich April 16 2020 05: 44 New
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        but even the form, and that was similar to the gymnasium until 1963

        Until May 1962
        My brother went to school in 1962, there were no more tunics with a belt and caps. And there were gray wool blends: a single-breasted jacket with three plastic buttons and gray trousers. Under the jacket was a gray shirt. On holidays white. To school uniform was a dark beret. But children, as a rule, wore it only when approaching school. Shy for some reason.
        1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 05: 50 New
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          Quote: Rich
          . To school uniform was a dark beret. But children, as a rule, wore it only when approaching school. Shy for some reason.

          I don’t know why we also didn’t like berets.
          It was very rare to see them in children and adolescents. They were usually worn by "mother's son." Maybe that's why? request
          1. DMB 75 April 16 2020 08: 16 New
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            We only wore berets at labor lessons with arm ruffles, safety equipment, panimash. With this it was strictly - the Trudovik was a tankman with a burnt face, everyone respected him and was afraid at the same time. Discipline in general at all lessons was such that a fly against glass was heard there was such silence ..
            1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 09: 23 New
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              Quote: DMB 75
              We wore berets only at labor lessons with arm ruffles together, safety precautions, panimash

              We have the same way yes
              It was strict with this - the Trudovik was a tankman with a burnt face, everyone respected him and was afraid at the same time. The discipline in general at all the lessons was such that a fly against glass could be heard, there was such silence ..

              Almost one to one laughing
              Only he was shell-shocked. Burns did not seem to be. Anyway visible
              I was interested in another question
              This is such a dirty trick on a branch that distributes cons?
              People remember childhood and youth, share memories. Everything is quiet, peaceful, calm. Nobody is rude to anyone and here is on you, minus. For what? request
              1. Aviator_ April 16 2020 09: 47 New
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                Our Trudovik was from aviation gunsmiths. He taught me how to work with locksmith tools. For the senior classes, under his leadership, they worked on the DIP lathe, and also mastered electric welding. On some anniversary of the Victory they forced him to talk about the war, he embarrassedly told something, and all that remained in his memory was that the weapons were mounted on fighter aircraft, and the bombers were mounted on bombers. And what is the most difficult type of shooting - this is from airplane to airplane.
                1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 09: 53 New
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                  Quote: Aviator_
                  He taught me how to work with a bench tool, worked at the DIP lathe under the guidance of the senior classes,

                  In our high school there was a "Car"
                  They studied the truck donated to the school by the factory and learned to drive it. True, half of the first lesson he started with a "crooked starter" laughing
                  1. Aviator_ April 16 2020 10: 00 New
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                    There was also a car dealership, but by the time it started, something had changed in the rules for obtaining a driver’s license, rural schoolchildren received them (my spouse even got the rights to a wheeled and tracked tractor), and in 1971-72 we only had to study traffic rules and car devices, no driving, no exams.
                    1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 10: 09 New
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                      Quote: Aviator_
                      There was also a car dealership, but by the time it started, something had changed in the rules for obtaining a driver’s license,

                      Rights did not give out.
                      They studied only the motor and learned to drive. True, the speed was one, the second, the third was prohibited. Like "push on the gas." From the clutch pedal was an ordinary rod with a pedal in the passenger seat. As soon as you accelerate a little, the teacher squeezes the clutch and then at least "get rich" laughing
                      1. Aviator_ April 16 2020 10: 31 New
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                        They didn’t teach us to drive, although there was a car (an old Skoda, such a round one). And the previous issue managed to hand over the rights. It ended for us. Probably, some efforts were needed at the level of the director of the school to push the process through the traffic police.
                      2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 10: 39 New
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                        Quote: Aviator_
                        They didn’t teach us to drive, although there was a car (an old Skoda, such a round one).

                        We have a truck. I don’t remember Mark
                        And the previous issue managed to hand over the rights.

                        In niche years, this was unrealistic. According to law.
                        Rights seem to have been issued since 18 years
                      3. Aviator_ April 16 2020 10: 44 New
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                        Yes, from the beginning of the 70s they did, it seems. Your truck, I suppose the Gas-51, was the most massive then, and rumors about the rights received by schoolchildren probably came from the mid-60s, our previous issue, of course, also received nothing.
                      4. Lipchanin April 16 2020 10: 50 New
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                        Quote: Aviator_
                        Yes, from the beginning of the 70s they did, it seems

                        In my book, "Krosh's Vacation", there is such that the school taught the rules and taught driving. And they were given rights. But also some kind of toys. When the time comes to receive adults, with them it seems like some kind of concessions or something request
                        I do not remember exactly
                      5. Aviator_ April 16 2020 10: 53 New
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                        Probably it was.
                      6. Lipchanin April 16 2020 11: 42 New
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                        Quote: Aviator_
                        Probably it was.

                        Likely
                        I read this book when I was in school. And the scene is Moscow. There they could have done such an experiment
                      7. Mordvin 3 April 16 2020 17: 26 New
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                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        There they could have done such an experiment

                        They gave out "children's" rights from the age of 16. It was allowed to ride only in the presence of an adult with some experience, and on secondary roads.
                    2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 12: 05 New
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                      I remembered. At 18 they could not give. They called in the SA from 18, and the driver was called there with rights
                    3. Fat
                      Fat April 16 2020 18: 37 New
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                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      I remembered. At 18 they could not give. They called in the SA from 18, and the driver was called there with rights

                      Not always ... Rights were given to conscripts who completed DOSAAF school after the first "long" march ... In a "voluntary society" a schoolchildren, although they didn’t promise and didn’t give their rights ...
                    4. ermak124.0 19 May 2020 10: 01 New
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                      gave. I got. read above comments.
                  2. Sklendarka April 16 2020 22: 22 New
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                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    I remembered. At 18 they could not give. They called in the SA from 18, and the driver was called there with rights

                    We did the same thing at school (grades 9-10). They didn’t give V / U, but they received a notice from the military commissariat and ... you were sent to training courses for drivers. After passing the examinations in the traffic police six months later (as I remember now, , Vyatka '') you received the I / O category!, B '' + ,, C '' and, which is characteristic, I passed the exams when I was not yet 18 years old i.e. in 76, and you were given rights to 77 the day after eighteen ...
              2. Fat
                Fat April 16 2020 18: 31 New
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                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: Aviator_
                Yes, from the beginning of the 70s they did, it seems

                In my book, "Krosh's Vacation", there is such that the school taught the rules and taught driving. And they were given rights. But also some kind of toys. When the time comes to receive adults, with them it seems like some kind of concessions or something request
                I do not remember exactly

                This is DOSAAF. Sergei! DOSAAF-trained men in regular service were given normal rights after the first 500 km march.
              3. rich April 17 2020 07: 46 New
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                In a book in my "Krosh Vacation"

                “Krosh’s Vacations” is the first part of Anatoly Rybakov’s trilogy “The Adventures of Krosh”.

                Wonderful book, for those who have not read, I highly recommend
                Link to the free download of the book: https: //readli.net/priklyucheniya-krosha/
                by opening the link you will find such a table - clicking on it on the format you want that you want to download - free download will start
          2. Fat
            Fat April 16 2020 18: 24 New
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            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Aviator_
            They didn’t teach us to drive, although there was a car (an old Skoda, such a round one).

            We have a truck.
            And the previous issue managed to hand over the rights.

            In niche years, this was unrealistic. According to law.
            Rights seem to have been issued since 18 years

            As far as I remember ... Moped from the age of 14 (by the way, by the way). The numbers were issued for "transport" .... Next Motorcycle (And now) from 16 .years ... Passenger pepelats (B) from 18 ....
            In our courtyard, the appearance of a moped was an event .... Sometimes it seems that for the evening with the girls ... They didn’t even ride .... But they managed to sort out the engine a couple of times in the evening ...
            - Ride the "uncle" ... Not up to you! clutch jams ... request
            My missus got off from a motik only when I met ... earlier, she said, she was sitting on the fence, but as a "technique" appeared .... Kapets. Machine oil on the elbows ....
            And what did I find in it? Along the way, a general interest .... in technology repeat
          3. ermak124.0 19 May 2020 09: 52 New
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            Everything is real. Rights received in the 10th grade. 1982 year. First, they passed the school exam according to the rules and driving on the school ZIL-130 and received blue crusts about the completion of the training course in categories B and C. Then, before the final exams, they already passed on the "rights". I handed over on ZIL-131. All of us are 17 years old, one is 16 ... In their rights, they were given only C, the mark "valid for reaching 18 years old ... Polklassa and 2 girls who studied with us instead of economics flew by without passing. We are out of luck. Before us, we graduated 81 years old in B and C. I had already received self-propelled guns at the school. It was fortunate to meet on patrol with the son of a teacher in auto-making at a local high school. His father helped.
      2. vladcub April 16 2020 18: 10 New
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        In a rural school this was not
  2. 210ox April 16 2020 13: 06 New
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    I already didn’t get to the “car dealership”. It seems the year that way in 72 canceled. But just in case, a kerogas stove was standing at home. Although there was already bottled gas. But people still went for kerosene. A refueling car came to the market, and there they bought it. That was the year 68-69.
    1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 13: 08 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      I already didn’t get to the “car dealership”. It seems the year that way in 72 canceled.

      With us later. In 72-73 it was definitely
    2. Aviator_ April 16 2020 14: 10 New
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      As for the kitchen - until 1967 there was a kerosene, a paraffin driver on a horse came to our 13th town, and he poured kerosene into canisters. Balloon gas appeared in 1967, cylinders, small ones, 2 pieces were placed on sledges, I carried them (carried them in the winter) to the bazaar, there was an exchange point for refueling. It was in Orenburg.
    3. dedusik April 16 2020 17: 44 New
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      Kerosene cost 13 kopecks 2 liters smile
      1. Fat
        Fat April 18 2020 23: 05 New
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        Quote: dedusik
        Kerosene cost 13 kopecks 2 liters smile

        "72" on coupons - 4 kopecks a liter. Poured into "their container." I remember hiking with my father for gas "to the hay" 72-75 years. Later, prices grew 72 - 7 kopecks ... 78 years - 14k ... Izhevsk pond.
        The father’s motor is “Salute” of one gas station, 3 liters was enough for 10-14 km. (current, wind).
        Father said: until 5 kg, we’ll catch, you can sleep on slang ... I’ve slept! Since then I hate oars and creaky oarlocks.
        But what kind of bream were turned out, were not cleaned in the oven .... And when my mother did the pike ...
        Have you ever seen a really big stuffed pike? fellow
        Well, here I am .... I did not have time request
      2. dedusik April 20 2020 14: 30 New
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        I do stuffed, according to the old recipe from my grandmother, pike of at least 2 kg, large (more than 2,5 kg) I can’t catch large in the river nowadays, although on the reservoirs are saltpeter and semi-cooked, my acquaintances come across 8kg But these reservoirs do not appeal to me stop
        PS And it’s not profitable to do less than 2 kg, fuss a lot, and to eat for the family for pleasure - at a time laughing
  3. vladcub April 16 2020 18: 05 New
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    I remember Kirogas and such a car, and indeed in 1968-69, but it was only available in the city. My aunt lived in the suburbs, and I lived in the village. I went to her periodically for the holidays and she sent me for kerosene, but she did not allow me to kindle kirogas. I’ve lit it myself
    I know the heat iron well
  • Fat
    Fat April 16 2020 17: 02 New
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    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Aviator_
    He taught me how to work with a bench tool, worked at the DIP lathe under the guidance of the senior classes,

    In our high school there was a "Car"
    They studied the truck donated to the school by the factory and learned to drive it. True, half of the first lesson he started with a "crooked starter" laughing

    In our "thirty", the Whole Student stood in the garage, the "elders" in their guts digging and even, sometimes moving away, drove out into the yard ... "Safety precautions. You panim" ... In the 70s we, "minor ", from the fourth grade, stamped from chromium-vanadium steel wrenches were doped up for a mechanical plant. They were our bosses ... Where was the responsibility ...
    We very much loved firewood for "titan" ... From the "mechanic", as the car arrives, the whole block is in a heap, he selects lodges for gunshots ... birch, raw and shaggy but REAL ...
    Parents did not scold ... they scatter - they dry faster ... Pragmatism. fellow
    And children's yard games? remember - the topic, even just to list with a set of rules ... not an article, the book will turn out ...
    It was difficult for our parents to find a child from the yard without scandal ... Not a school, not parents ... - the yard, the street character forged ... Veterans in the yard, with domino games, rescue volunteers ... In case "especially advanced firewood set on fire ...
    But on the "super tricks" and the belt was ready and the fatherly "slap" repeat crying
    1. vladcub April 16 2020 20: 59 New
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      We also have a belt or twig. And one kid was “lucky”: his father would become a whip a couple of times and always last. Once there was a scream: he already after the army, “picked up” well and provoked everyone, but his father told the ladies the whip and he sobered up right away
  • dedusik April 16 2020 17: 42 New
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    In 1955 I went to school and was not in uniform, only girls have black or dark brown casual aprons and white, festive. Here at FZUshnikov (vocational schools) the form yes, was.
    PS Well, if it was your childhood, then it is worthless at your age to pay attention to some disadvantages, just some kind of childhood. Now, if the pluses reduced your years, then another thing good
  • vladcub April 16 2020 20: 36 New
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    We had no form. The former was canceled, but there was no new. The girls remained the same. And the boys are a kind of form: a light shirt, dark pants .. Beretta was not.
  • Olgovich April 16 2020 06: 57 New
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    Quote: Lipchanin
    First grade 1964. The form is gone. I mean gymnasium

    At about the same time, we had a dark blue jacket and the same pants.
    The shirt is blue, white on holidays.
    The girls have a uniform, as in the photo.

    four harnesses were sewn with very tricky stockings. Stockings, brown in a rib, had no gum at the top and, of course, fell over. They were fastened to these fasteners,

    I remember this muck.

    But in our country, basically, trousers were already taken and in the winter training (when physical training) or with underpants (when physical training is not available) under them.
    In summer, shorts with elastic and sandals on the bare foot.
    especially when it was impossible to go outside, that is, in autumn, when it is cold and dirty, in winter, when snow and frost, and in spring, when everything melts and is wet. That is, most of the year. After all, we must remember that there was no asphalt on our street then. I had to walk on wooden sidewalks - boards stuffed with transverse logs, and all this squished, slipped, drowned in mud. The yards of the neighboring boys, like mine, were little adapted for games, so young children involuntarily had to play the role of "prisoners».
    I don’t remember such feelings: at any time of the year to drive us home was a whole story for parents, they rushed along the streets, parks, lakes: there are so many interesting and huge masses around urgent"affairs"! ...

    Oh, how I want to come back,
    Oh, how you want to break into the town
    On our street in three houses,
    Where everything is simple and familiar, for a day.
    Where they enter guests without demand,
    Where there is no envy and anger - a sweet home,
    Where is the birth celebrated?
    And forever escort the whole yard.

    Ehhhhh ....
    1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 07: 02 New
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      In summer, shorts with elastic and sandals on the bare foot.

      When I came to my grandmothers' villages for a vacation, I forgot about shoes laughing
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        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Olgovich
        In summer, shorts with elastic and sandals on the bare foot.

        When I came to my grandmothers' villages for a vacation, I forgot about shoes laughing

        Uh-huh.
        Like Huckleberry Finn ... And wash your feet in well water in the evening, before going to bed? laughing Task recourse
    2. Krasnodar April 16 2020 10: 29 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Quote: Lipchanin
      First grade 1964. The form is gone. I mean gymnasium

      At about the same time, we had a dark blue jacket and the same pants.
      The shirt is blue, white on holidays.
      The girls have a uniform, as in the photo.

      four harnesses were sewn with very tricky stockings. Stockings, brown in a rib, had no gum at the top and, of course, fell over. They were fastened to these fasteners,

      I remember this muck.

      But in our country, basically, trousers were already taken and in the winter training (when physical training) or with underpants (when physical training is not available) under them.
      In summer, shorts with elastic and sandals on the bare foot.
      especially when it was impossible to go outside, that is, in autumn, when it is cold and dirty, in winter, when snow and frost, and in spring, when everything melts and is wet. That is, most of the year. After all, we must remember that there was no asphalt on our street then. I had to walk on wooden sidewalks - boards stuffed with transverse logs, and all this squished, slipped, drowned in mud. The yards of the neighboring boys, like mine, were little adapted for games, so young children involuntarily had to play the role of "prisoners».
      I don’t remember such feelings: at any time of the year to drive us home was a whole story for parents, they rushed along the streets, parks, lakes: there are so many interesting and huge masses around urgent"affairs"! ...

      Oh, how I want to come back,
      Oh, how you want to break into the town
      On our street in three houses,
      Where everything is simple and familiar, for a day.
      Where they enter guests without demand,
      Where there is no envy and anger - a sweet home,
      Where is the birth celebrated?
      And forever escort the whole yard.

      Ehhhhh ....

      And in the 90s the Pyramids and Malvins went - in my Malvins I tucked a Turkish sweater on a fishing line - it was a picnic of teenage fashion laughing
      In the 91st, the school uniform became optional, the schools switched to a ten-point grading system, according to which I managed to finish the 8th grade in two - except for three eights - History, Moldavian and English))
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        And in the 90s the Pyramids and Malvins went - in my Malvins I tucked a Turkish sweater on a fishing line - it was a picnic of teenage fashion

        recourse
        I can’t even imagine what it is request
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          89-91 - jeans are wide - almost breeches. The sweater is dark gray with patterns. red or green.
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            And a cloth belt with a knot)
          2. Reptiloid April 16 2020 12: 44 New
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            89-91 - jeans are wide - almost breeches. The sweater is dark gray with patterns. red or green.

            Yes! The clips of Gazmanov of that time, where there is a lot of movement, in such unthinkable breeches? But is it jeans?
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              Like yes laughing
              Pyramids - conditionally, Malvins - definitely. )))
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            89-91 - jeans are wide - almost breeches. The sweater is dark gray with patterns. red or green.

            Somehow passed by recourse
            Not before, apparently, it was ...
            1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 14: 01 New
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              So I am born on the 76th )))
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                Quote: Krasnodar
                So I am born on the 76th )))

                I envy! yes
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                  C'mon, I myself didn’t notice how I played the forty laughing in three or four years it will be necessary to fly to Chisinau - to cu blue cu mitite good It’s the fault of the Roshi - since the 91st I haven’t been there.
      2. Aviator_ April 16 2020 14: 13 New
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        Exactly a ten-point system at school, not a twelve-point system? Well, Moldavians, give!
        1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 15: 05 New
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          Yes ten point
          C'mon - in those years the whole Union gave out)).
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            in those years, the entire Union issued

            That’s for sure, they lived without a king in their head - Tagged Gorbi had the same authority within the country as, probably, Emperor Kolya 2nd, in 1917.
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              They are not comparable. Parents were scared of what was happening, while Gorbi was not scolded. Nikolai had an increase in the mess in the country with millions of losses in the WWII, into which he himself energetically harnessed, we can say first. Gorbachev - all the problems that had been accumulating for decades were shoved onto him - Andropov’s young favorite — rake him up!
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                I completely agree with you all of these Gorbachev cursers in his place. The treasury is empty, industry is uncompetitive, agriculture is in the pen, the country has a total deficit of everything except tanks, if before that the most egregious holes were shut up due to the export of hydrocarbons, now their price has fallen dramatically. He is simply a genius who did not allow a civil war with the use of nuclear weapons
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              Quote: Aviator_
              Gorby had the same authority within the country as, probably, Emperor Kolya 2nd, in 1917.

              FFU ... The emperor has a better chance in the ranking ... Bad people ....
              And most importantly, Niki still found people that they tormented the sufferer
              And with Gorby who will ask? Where to find him a personal Yurovsky?
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            Yes ten point
            C'mon - in those years the whole Union gave out)).

            Come on you.
            In Latvia, students are evaluated, as in Belarus, by a 10-point system, where 10 is excellent, and 1 is very, very bad. If there is practically no knowledge, skills or verification work is not passed without a good reason, then 0 points are set. The same system applies in Moldova, Albania, Vietnam, Greece, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Colombia, Lithuania, Mexico, the Netherlands, Romania and Ecuador.
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              Yes, I somehow side
              In Israel, stobal - I learned from it laughing
        2. Liam April 16 2020 17: 09 New
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          Quote: Aviator_
          Exactly a ten-point system at school, not a twelve-point system? Well, Moldavians, give!

          And why didn’t you hit the 10-point?
          1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 17: 14 New
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            Shaw should be divided into two, not four - probably))
            And the shades of minuses and pluses are not so pronounced - like 9 figs you will understand, a four is a plus or a five with a minus, but 17 is another matter laughing
            1. Liam April 16 2020 17: 18 New
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              In America, there’s letters instead of ratings and nothing .. live like that)
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            Yes, I don’t care about these points, I only know that in Sumeria they immediately switched to a 12-point one, as it was before the revolution in the Republic of Ingushetia, but I still did not know about 10.
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              Quote: Aviator_
              Yes, I don’t care about these points, I only know that in Sumeria they immediately switched to a 12-point one, as it was before the revolution in the Republic of Ingushetia, but I still did not know about 10.

              Yes nafik. Decibella points ... There are only three ratings: oud, ferret, and excellent ...
              And "failure" is not an assessment at all, but certification ...))))))
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                I read the evaluation criteria 1,2,3,4,5. They were developed in the USSR at the beginning of the 30s, when the "rrrevolutionary" experiments in education (brigade training, etc.) ceased and basically returned to the Russian classical system. There was an explanation about 1 and 2 - it turns out that this is for those who will be left in the second year, but 1 means an absolute zero of knowledge, and 2 means zero, but not absolute. And all the former union republics abandoned this very reasonable and thoughtful Soviet system exclusively within the framework of desovetization.
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    we weren’t beaten for clothes, they weren’t “squeezed fat out of thick ones”, for some reason we knew that a person had health problems ... we probably lived with Shpakovsky in different USSR.
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      Quote: Dead Day
      they didn’t beat us for clothes, they didn’t “squeeze fat out of thick ones”

      We too. Tease tease beat never request
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        Yes, everything is very simple. If you unreasonably hit even the very last loshkope, then the elders will come and carry out the suggestion. And in a verbal skirmish, mother could not be hurt. Unreasonably. And if the child is a complete orphan, then he needs to forgive more than usual. If the border does not cross.
        1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 11: 48 New
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          Yes, what can I say. We were all humane
          It affected the upbringing of the grandfathers of the front-line soldiers, parents who, either themselves were orphans, or grew up without one parent.
          With us in the pioneer camp the orphans rested all the time. Separate detachment.
          It never occurred to anyone to offend the orphanage.
          Yes, and it was hard to offend. Just that they all rushed to the rescue.
          Were ready for each other to kick any ears
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            Now among young people there are also a lot of people from single-parent families. Echo 90s. Many people have such an attitude towards life as if everyone owes them. From the state to the surrounding. And no compassion. Only consumer attitude. And this is surprising.
            1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 12: 10 New
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              And this is the influence of those series
              Think of the Brigade as an example.
              Then the bandits were romanticized, and they lived on the principle "the whole world owes us"
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                By the way, the brigade is more or less normal in this sense. Here everything else, such as Boomer or St. Petersburg, is romanticizing. We are reaping the fruits and at the same time on the screens all the same. And the cops like Gnezdilov from the Dog are represented. The people are rude in heart. I forgot about compassion and empathy.
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                  Quote: garri-lin
                  By the way, the brigade is more or less normal in this sense.

                  Because the first "test"
                  And the cops like Gnezdilov from the Dog are represented.

                  I only watch him laughing
                  There are no good comedies, so at least not looking at him to rest.
                  I worked with almost that. And also a captain.
                  So that Gnezdilov has prototypes.
                  And with normal cops there are decent series. The same "Cop Wars", "The Bloodhound" ... I can also name
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                    I tried to watch the war. Do not go. There are a lot of snot. And half of the antagonists are like sons and not thieves. Just do not like the series about the cops. It would be better to shoot something light like Castle, the Mentalist or Bones. But not with Trace level, but with consultants from pathologists and lawyers. Lenin was right. Cinema is the most important art. And now they teach from the screen to love yourself and not Homeland. And not around.
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                      I look forward to continuing the series "Cipher"
                      Really like
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                      Did not watch. Only for advertising and excerpts. The idea is good. Depends on the implementation. And again, not ours. The source is English like. And adaptation is not always successful. Instead of Richter, House was enough.
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                      Quote: garri-lin
                      And again, not ours. The source is English like.

                      100% ours.
                      4 women served in the General Staff. After the war, the department was disbanded, they were classified
                      They could not say where they served, in what rank, what awards they had.
                      One of them was charged with murder. And they found a real killer
                      Then another murder was investigated and started. And everything is in private privacy
                      I advise you to look
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                      There will be a look I will definitely. Thanks for the tip.
          2. Reptiloid April 16 2020 15: 01 New
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            The dog, like Spetsy, and some other other series are Ukrainian films. The search engine will help to find out more
            Quote: garri-lin
            By the way, the brigade is more or less normal in this sense. Here everything else, such as Boomer or St. Petersburg, is romanticizing. We are reaping the fruits and at the same time on the screens all the same. And the cops like Gnezdilov from the Dog are represented. The people are rude in heart. I forgot about compassion and empathy.
  • Fat
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    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Dead Day
    they didn’t beat us for clothes, they didn’t “squeeze fat out of thick ones”

    We too. Tease tease beat never request

    My first serious fight took place in the second grade. They fought like the last time. The Trudovik dismissed ...
    What were you fighting for? asks, distributing iodine and tampons to the nose placing ... Straying, I complain:
    And he says weightlessness on the moon!
    And you? - and I say gravity is everywhere!
    Hm! Gravity? this is serious!
    Since then, we read DE with the "enemy" together! Discussed.
    Since then there have been acquaintances, many ... few friends
    But my first Lunar friend is always with me ... I consult internally, and what would He say, what would he do?
    In general, looking at a problem from different angles is a huge, difficult event.
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      Almost a similar story! And also about space))) Already 35 years - normal flight! The funny thing is, 2 adult uncles, we still call each other among themselves Captains (April 12, our personal holiday with him - Cosmonautics Day). None of us became an astronaut, but childhood fantasies stayed with us - in a good way)))
  • Fat
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    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Dead Day
    they didn’t beat us for clothes, they didn’t “squeeze fat out of thick ones”

    We too. Tease tease beat never request

    My dog ​​at the desk was a complete girl. So it has grown. I was not the leader in the class ... but those who tried to encroach on my fount
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      I was mercilessly inhibited ... I myself am "fat"
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        Quote: Thick
        I was mercilessly inhibited ... I myself am "fat"

        And which of the agglomerate girls turned out to be a girl. Oh. Cinema has no such example.
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    Quote: Dead Day
    we weren’t beaten for clothes, they weren’t “squeezed fat out of thick ones”, for some reason we knew that a person had health problems ... we probably lived with Shpakovsky in different USSR.

    My relatives lived in the same USSR as you, someone in the city, someone in the village, but didn’t tell anything like that. Maybe the author is exaggerating?
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      Quote: Reptiloid
      Maybe the author is exaggerating?

      What for? How many times he wrote that in the era of the Internet it is impossible to “condense” or condense. There will always be someone who lived on a nearby street, in a neighboring house in the same city, who studied with you, saw you on TV, read your books ... It's like walking through a line naked, like not closing, somebody something to see. So it is here. It turns out that those who are far away, in principle, do not care. The country is great. But what about those who are nearby? Their opinion matters! Therefore ... "thicken" is more expensive. Explain available?
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        Quote: kalibr
        ...... It turns out that those who are far away, in principle, do not care. The country is great. But what about those who are nearby? Their opinion matters! Therefore ... "thicken" is more expensive. Explain available?
        Somehow, those who
        ..... did not hit for clothes .....
        ---- a few memories. They mean far from Penza? And did Penza have any unique embittered place? Interesting% living nearby, among readers, somehow no one declared themselves your neighbor, however .... request
        1. 3x3zsave April 16 2020 08: 13 New
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          I know at least one of the members of the forum who personally knew Vyacheslav Olegovich in the early 80's
          So there really is no sense in “calling” to Shpakovsky.
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          Dmitry, I want you to learn more about the 70s - download author on the site. today is my next novel, "Season of Love." There, and about love at that time, and a lot of household details, which are not written in textbooks!
          1. Reptiloid April 16 2020 10: 22 New
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            About the past times of the USSR, I read small pieces. Somehow it’s hard going.
            Now ---- "" Constructivist towns of Sverdlovsk. 20-30s ""
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              Dmitry! Why do you need this, excuse me ... It will not make you richer. You need to read something that helps to work less and get more, or that gives pleasure. You won’t be bored with the “Season of Love”. It goes like clockwork! And knowledge and pleasure in one book!
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                Quote: kalibr
                Dmitry! Why do you need this, excuse me ... It will not make you richer. You need to read something that helps to work less and get more, or that gives pleasure. You won’t be bored with the “Season of Love”. It goes like clockwork! And knowledge and pleasure in one book!

                I ----- smirking. It is necessary to do what is interesting, but wealth, or it is more correct to say incomes, they come ... Didn't you write this? Historical knowledge ---- they help.
                My specialty has been striving for 5 for about 00000 years. There is no question of wealth
                1. kalibr April 16 2020 10: 55 New
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                  "" Constructivist towns of Sverdlovsk. 20s-30s "" but how it might be interesting for a non-specialist, I don’t understand ...
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                    Quote: kalibr
                    "" Constructivist towns of Sverdlovsk. 20s-30s "" but how it might be interesting for a non-specialist, I don’t understand ...

                    Well, I'm somehow close to architecture. In any case, it is sometimes necessary to demonstrate your knowledge. And as for the constructivist towns of 20x-30xx, they are not only in Sverdlovsk, they were built all over the country, they just were not called that. And it's about that life
                  2. Fat
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                    Oleg Vyacheslavovich! This is not interesting for a specialist. Constructivism is the curse of the industrial revolution. The triumph of "rationalism" in its worst form!
                    The practice of reducing the working man to an appendage to the machine
                    The constructivist towns of Sverdlovsk are barracks.
                    Even in distressed Stalingrad, workers lived better! I hate this style and this "public" ideology.
                    We lived in high-rise buildings with a "constructivist" scheme. But later it became separate apartments ...
                    God forgive how much DE shit has leaked ...
                    In Izhevsk, workers lived in houses for two or four owners, with a land plot and no one could break into "private" life, except for the NKVD .... sometimes.
                    Berdanks were far from hiding but rusted from uselessness.
                    Here in the center of the city there was a war with crime ... where the constructivists noted ... with their communal apartments ...
                    I remember my mother’s joke: Children, lay down quickly! The police are working ....
                    That was my city, Izhevsk ....
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                    M-yes! Live a century ... You just opened my eyes. I didn’t know this. However, I don’t know much, so thanks!
                  4. Reptiloid April 16 2020 20: 48 New
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                    Constructivism style houses are what Soviet power could do after the revolution and 4 wars. Industrialization was also carried out, deposits were developed. Somehow, the tsar does not have the requirements of good apartments for workers. It’s even strange.
                    We have houses in this style ---- thick walls, warm, in the same 20s communal apartments appeared in them ----- 2x-3x. The rooms are about 20 squares, plus or minus. By today, the very first ones have collapsed or dilapidated, while some will remain idle for a long time. Already separate apartments
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                    Quote: Thick
                    Oleg Vyacheslavovich! This is not interesting for a specialist. Constructivism is the curse of the industrial revolution. The triumph of "rationalism" in its worst form!
                    The practice of reducing the working man to an appendage to the machine
                    The constructivist towns of Sverdlovsk are barracks.
                    Even in distressed Stalingrad, workers lived better! I hate this style and this ...... We lived in high-rise buildings with a "constructivist" scheme. But later it became separate apartments ......... Here in the city center there was a war with crime ... where the constructivists noted ... with their communal apartments ...
                    I remember my mother’s joke: Children, lay down quickly! The police are working ....
                    That was my city, Izhevsk ....
                    For you, constructivism is a trigger for heavy childhood memories. I have the opposite --- a house for 4 owners
            2. Fat
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              Sorry, Oleg Vyacheslavovich, but even healthy cynicism is not yours.
              I’ll read the book simply out of harm.
              Facts, so and so,
              But the style ... Normal "Caliber" ...
              Thanks for the article and for the conversation all the more ...
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              I read it again ---- laughed again! Well, how do you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, know which book I enjoy? It’s somehow presumptuous if you didn’t even know about constructivism how you yourself wrote to Andrei Ivanovich. (Aka Tolstoy)
              In the mobile version, the names are not always visible ?????? Opened at night --- his name was visible, in the morning there is nothing. Suddenly wrong? Sleeping?
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            Fat April 16 2020 19: 45 New
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            Constructivism. This is a whole direction in architecture, just in those same 20-30 ....
            I will never advise you to buy an apartment in the style of constructivism ... Ofi Eigete
            Constructivism is a direction in the visual arts, architecture, photography and decorative arts, which originated in 1915 and existed in the USSR during the first half of 1930, then in a number of other countries, primarily in Germany (Bauhaus) and Holland (De Steyl ) In some cases, constructivism is considered as a source and an integral part of the international style and as one of the trends that determined the development of the New Vision.
            New vision? Platonov smokes on the sidelines as long as there is no news from the foundation pit!
            Yeah ... one common toilet, one shower room on the floor ... There are a number of constructivist buildings in Kostroma.
            Post Office, Central Hotel ...
            Constructivism, this is serious .... and this is a very poorly thought out hostel option ...
            I kiss you at Le Corbusier
            1. Reptiloid April 16 2020 20: 25 New
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              Did you decide to kiss my book? Carbusier? Okay! You can kiss the books of El Litsinsky. At least 2 available. And others also send you kisses laughing wassat What time was it then? Lack of everything. People from the villages came, and where to settle them? Stolypin reform did not provide. When the king ---- a shift in sleep, several families in one room. The commune houses were better than that. Canteens ---- and there were no refrigerators yet. Would only workers walk and cook daily for groceries? At one time?
              Constructivism is both shopping centers, and houses of culture, motels, stadiums, educational institutions
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                Quote: Reptiloid
                Did you decide to kiss my book? Carbusier? Okay! You can kiss the books of El Litsinsky. At least 2 available. And others also send you kisses laughing wassat What time was it then? Lack of everything. People from the villages came, and where to settle them? Stolypin reform did not provide. When the king ---- a shift in sleep, several families in one room. The commune houses were better than that. Canteens ---- and there were no refrigerators yet. Would only workers walk and cook daily for groceries? At one time?
                Constructivism is both shopping centers, and houses of culture, motels, stadiums, educational institutions

                You have illuminated the absolute Truth. So what? a long corridor with a pair of bathrooms the top of the architecture has become? A multi-storey hut, it will not stop being a hut!
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                  a multi-story hut is better than a corner for a family with children in a room. But very soon, these multi-story barracks remained only as student dormitories. We have the House of Academics, beginning of the 30s. Constructivism is more advanced. And not only this house.
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                  Dim. We lived in a room in the school where my father worked. It was a departmental living space one room for 5 people. Mom was given a three-room Khrushchev .... They shouted and rejoiced. But I got a "closet"
                  pantry. where they put me in case of disagreement with the general political line fellow
                  I learned. It is dark and there is something to think about.
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                  So Khrushchev constructivism too! But before them, in our city, we tried block ones from foam concrete. It turned out a little expensive. At the same time, there were 2-square and one-room kitchens in Moscow 20. And until the 80s there was still an old foundation with a toilet in the courtyard and semi-basements. And you say ....- .. In the center.
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                  So Khrushchev constructivism too! But before them, in our city, we tried block ones from foam concrete. It turned out a little expensive. At the same time, there were 2-square and one-room kitchens in Moscow 20. And until the 80s there was still an old foundation with a toilet in the courtyard and semi-basements. And you say ....- .. In the center.

                  Panel Khrushchev is a barracks from project to execution.
                  Here is a brick Khrushchev .. This is a decent housing ... Multivariate.
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                  Panel Khrushchev is a barracks from project to execution.

                  My bourgeois brother lives with pleasure in the panel Khrushchev that his father received in the 70s. Treshka, all rooms are separate.
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                  You see! Don't even get angry about this good for the fact that this style is constructivism!
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                  Quote: Thick
                  Panel Khrushchev is a barracks from project to execution.

                  My bourgeois brother lives with pleasure in the panel Khrushchev that his father received in the 70s. Treshka, all rooms are separate.
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                  I don’t even get angry about this constructivism style!

                  There is a very convenient arrangement of rooms, the apartment is small but cozy. However, we had a four of an improved type, there were also all separate rooms. And now they are selling bare walls, even the toilet has to be put on its own. laughing
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                  ВThat's because what the Communists thought of! Free flat for people to give out! Yes, even with a toilet and bath and gas! Whether it’s the case with the king! Not all of the lordly large apartments located on the lower floors had toilets! But there were no higher ones in the smaller apartments. The TRUTH, sometimes there was a toilet on the stairs, now in the old fund you can sometimes see such a pantry, redone. And nothing ------ no one scolds the king for this. Don't taunt.
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    Oh, leave ... I don’t kiss books, I ... This ... Hawa ... If you think to draw a parallel ... No need. With a diploma, we sometimes plump and home conversation topics.
    Attitude to the style of constructivism, especially in the interiors, I just
    Do not accept ... I barely tolerate high-rise buildings ....
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    understandable lack of socialist system, or rather, what was called in the USSR
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      clear lack, socialist system,

      A man writes about RI, actually.
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      And I answered the reptiloid, for some reason I threw it below
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      Quote: Icelord
      And I answered the reptilian,

      Well, so wait for his answer ... winked
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      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Quote: Icelord
      And I answered the reptilian,

      Well, so wait for his answer ... winked

      For some reason, the bell does not always work, with a large number of comments, the order is broken and buggy negative negative tablet and emoticons are lying
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    That’s just it, Vladimir, I wrote about the lack of everything in the first years after the revolution. RI left such an inheritance after 3 wars. But the topic is also interesting because it was your city that began to be built in this post-revolutionary time
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Icelord
    clear lack, socialist system,

    A man writes about RI, actually.

    Already in the 20s-30s, the authorities tried to change the lives of workers, as far as they could, both work and leisure ---- study, sports, classes, medical supervision, and began to gradually increase life expectancy, unlike 30 years under the tsar
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    Did you decide to kiss my book? Carbusier? Okay! You can kiss the books of El Litsinsky. At least 2 available. And others also send you kisses laughing wassat What time was it then? Lack of everything. People from the villages came, and where to settle them? Stolypin reform did not provide. When the king ---- a shift in sleep, several families in one room. The commune houses were better than that. Canteens ---- and there were no refrigerators yet. Would only workers walk and cook daily for groceries? At one time?
    Constructivism is both shopping centers, and houses of culture, motels, stadiums, educational institutions

    When my grandfather came from a village to an industrial city, he quickly cooperated with the same poor fellow. For a year and a half! they built themselves a 4-apartment building, on a site allocated by the factory ... Everyone was populated. a month later, maybe a year and a half along the route to the Zavod stop, trams ran and this is 1938-1939 .... Constructivism, ours or another .... to put it mildly, very bad style.
    I understand more futurists with searches in ergonomics, minimalism .....
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      ...... constructivism ...... very bad style ....
      Somehow you forgot about functionalism, which German architects brought to the USSR and tried to implement. Just at the end of the 30s, ours refused him. Your grandfather built a house ..... Perhaps this is still an exception, not a rule.? Indeed, it was convenient under capitalism, and later, that factory workers would compactly settle closer to the factory. Most walked to work.
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      Indeed, it was convenient under capitalism, and later, that factory workers would compactly settle closer to the factory. Most walked to work.

      Yes. The working village was the norm.
      But only in the industrial region itself, few people settle and settle .... Small-family ones can take a closer look at factory high-rise buildings. But there the crime raged indefinitely .....
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      ...crime.......
      Somehow I can’t believe it would be a cool crime. What can criminals profit from there? In the working village. Maybe they just drank and walked? ......... Get your hand out, swing your shoulder ........ daredevil .....
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    I will continue. Construction was also taking place. The best options. They survived until today. There are also in the city center. Separate apartments. You don’t really buy them. So if it were not for the Second World War, then the cities would have been completely different. I assure you, besides Kostroma constructivism, there were still a lot of things
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      I will continue. Construction was also taking place. The best options. They survived until today. There are also in the city center. Separate apartments. You don’t really buy them. So if it were not for the Second World War, then the cities would have been completely different. I assure you, besides Kostroma constructivism, there were still a lot of things

      Possibly. But as I recall the Prorsky Colossus. I'm doing it wrong ...
      Sea resort on the island of Rugen in Germany. He is famous for his gigantic rest house (Prorsky Colossus, German: Koloss von Prora), built in 1936-1939 on the order of the Force through Joy movement under the leadership of Robert Leah. 150 m from the coast faceless buildings [i] [/ i] (there were eight in total) designed to accommodate 20 thousand tourists and stretched in a row for 4500 meters ...

      The triumph of constructivism ....
      .... Yes, I have little normal words for "constructivism" in architecture.
      This style is not for people, but for "cars" .....
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        This style is not for people, but for "cars" .....

        You said that very well. But very many people like to be cars so that everyone is like everyone else. No offense!
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        Oh, just four “cars” were marked by minuses ...
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      The idea came to mind that, probably, the pioneer camps of ARTEK, EAGLE are just in this style? I remember their photos very roughly ....
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      The idea came to mind that, probably, the pioneer camps of ARTEK, EAGLE are just in this style? I remember their photos very roughly ....

      Probably it seems ... The style is similar, neither Artek nor Orlenka was ... request
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    ........... as I recall the Prorsky Colossus so badly done ........
    I imagined ---- just this distance from the subway to my house. I go to myself, I go, and on the left he is, the Prorsky Colossus! Class! lol We must remember in general what happened in those years in Germany. Bauhaus. Style development. More exaggerated, probably than constructivism. Academy.
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    ........... as I recall the Prorsky Colossus so badly done ........
    I imagined ---- just this distance from the subway to my house. I go to myself, I go, and on the left he is, the Prorsky Colossus! Class! lol We must remember in general what happened in those years in Germany. Bauhaus. Style development. More exaggerated, probably than constructivism. Academy.

    There is not much left of the Prorsky Colossal. Our sappers spoiled a lot of things while training.
    But at 39-40 it was a multi-story sausage over 4 km long along the coast. If the society that had decided to build it at all had the strength, then this advanced facade along the entire coast would probably have flopped.
    Stadiums, barbecue restaurants and movie theaters are inside.
    In general, a long, long, long ugly facade, a multi-storey hut ... 4,5 km - 40-50 minutes on foot .... There was no tram there.
    If you are talking about Moscow, then in the area of ​​VDNH there are also similar pearls, hotel complexes "tourist" and "golden ear" ..... But there are much fewer rooms there. And comfort in the room, not at the end of the block.))))
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    40-50 minutes just from me to the Pionerskaya metro station., However, bypassing another metro station .. the tram runs by itself
    I know where in St. Petersburg there is a house longer than a kilometer, and this is the 70s.
    In the pre-war era, a new style was developing. BASIC, German architects, (they were invited to us), but not only. Again, lack of funds with the beginning of industrialization. The construction of Magnitogorsk, for example.
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    we weren’t beaten for clothes

    Also never encountered anything like this. And what’s there to beat for? They didn’t go naked. They did not envy each other in clothes. If the classmate is smart, it means that somewhere in the case he is going, on the contrary they sympathized. And they all walked in about one - tights, or, second-hand trousers, I don’t remember my shirt at all, I only remember what they called it — for some reason, a cowboy. In summer - Czechs, or sneakers, winter boots, boots only in the fall-spring. In the early 70s, the boys were in fashion “velvet jackets with zippers. The brother-in-law was sewn in an atelier, and then I finished it. But the girls were fashionistas, unlike us
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      But the girls were fashionistas, unlike us

      Yes, it was at all times and with all nations laughing
      As we joked, we could sew an evening dress from a man’s tie laughing
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    we weren’t beaten for clothes, they weren’t “squeezed fat out of thick ones”, for some reason we knew that a person had health problems ... we probably lived with Shpakovsky in different USSR.

    And I, it seems, lived with him in the same USSR, although it seems to be where Penza is and where Tashkent is.
    We had butskals for pants, and we squeezed thick ones into a corner, and crushed the whole crowd, it was called "squeeze oil."
    But do not think that these were some kind of evil beating and brutal bullying. They beat me lightly, for fun. Those who were afraid of tickling, preferred to catch and tickle, while trying to pull off his pants.
    And, now, "squeezed the oil" with all the dope. Again, not from evil, but because there were a lot of dope in every sense.
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      Yeah interesting. But how about those whom "" pressed ""? Now it’s clear what I’m talking about. Recall, from the last that I recall, about the school episode .... the film "Heavenly Court". "As a guy at school stuck .... At my school, just maybe because of general difficulties, that time wasn’t particularly tyrannized no one. Now I remember one guy, we couldn’t have anything in the family, somehow I ate too much in the canteen. Someone didn’t want something, but he ate 3 portions, 5 portions.
      True, in the 97th year, a mobile phone provoked crazy passions. One girl with his dad had obstructed him and brought him to school. Everyone was envious ..... After a day of universal envy, she presented him with a boy whom she liked. But --- he gave it to another girl, everything happened in public .....
      That girl didn’t take it, pushed herself off, called her names, the phone fell .... someone smacked someone. Then the others joined .....
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        Recall, from the last that I recall, about the school episode .... the film "Heavenly Court". "

        The film "Scarecrow" with Kristina Orbakaite and Yuri Nikulin.
        The country was in shock. I mean parents and teachers, they could not believe that this is possible in our schools
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        Yeah interesting. But how about those whom "" pressed ""?

        Also fun. And what will happen to me (I myself have never been thin), for example,? Judo, classic wrestling, mountain climbing ... Just think 10 people pressed into a corner! The wrestler does not hurt, the wrestler is pleased! Then, after all, you can always suddenly catch the initiator, put the letter "sow" and make a ram out of it, to open the doors.))) And this is with the full support of your recent "tormentors". In general, "Vae victis!".
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          Who knows why we didn’t have? "" There are few real violent ones, and there are no leaders .... "" new school, new district, the tram has not yet run, there was a carriage ......
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                Probably, from the eighth grade, someone was trying to earn ---- wash cars, help the stalls ....

                Yes, and now they’re ready to earn some money
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                  This is the phone number of our city, my friends are close
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                    This is the phone number of our city, my friends are close

                    I found it in Odnoklassniki
                    One acquaintance complained about her son that he was buying it whining, another.
                    And she brings him up alone, works as a postman.
                    So I sent her this picture
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  • apro April 16 2020 06: 06 New
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    And lived just by the concepts

    And today we live according to concepts ..
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      "So today we live by the concepts .." only by strangers
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      Quote: apro
      Quote: Michael m
      And lived just by the concepts

      And today we live according to concepts ..

      Today? )))
      The concept is one - "who does not have a billion goes to tukhes". Until 2014, it was even declared, now by default
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    And we walked in our courtyard also unaccompanied. And not like now ---- you look out into the courtyard ----- there are children on the playground, and around parents, grandmothers and nannies there are more than children.
    Quote: Michael m
    ...... And they went to school unaccompanied. And they lived simply according to the concepts of justice.
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      And not like now ---- you look out into the courtyard ----- there are children on the site, and around parents, grandmothers and nannies there are more than children.

      Well I do not know. In the courtyard in which I live this is not. Children run on their own, parents at home do their own thing request
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        Different place of residence? Or maybe different ages of children in the yards? Or quantity?
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          Or maybe different ages of children in the yards? Or quantity?

          Primary school age.
          Starting from Grade 1 to 5-6
          I'm with a dog when I walk it all I see.
          The younger ones run more and more
          Older I play football under the window
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      That’s for sure! The beginning of the 70s, I’m an 8-year-old, one !, went to the * Children's World *, spend * pocket * savings. winked
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        The beginning of the 70s, I’m an 8-year-old, one!, Went to the * Children's World *, spend * pocket * savings.

        And to me, an 8-year-old, people from a neighboring house trusted to walk a Siamese cat on a leash yes while they went to the grocery store sad drinks
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      we walked in our courtyard also unaccompanied. And not like now ---- you look out into the courtyard ----- there are children on the playground, and around parents, grandmothers and nannies there are more than children.

      Do you remember how your relatives screamed from the windows - they called home, now you won’t see such a thing
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        But you just won’t forget it! * Seryozha! Home! Lessons! *
        * Now, ma! *. But now it was stretched .... for a long time!
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          But you just won’t forget it! *

          That's for sure. So many years have passed .... but as it was yesterday. Golden was the time
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            And here’s the question! What is the most vivid memory you have of that time? If to yourself, then definitely super series 72 !!!!
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              In the 72nd I was 12 years old. What is the most vivid memory? I honestly don’t even know. Maybe the first friendship with a wonderful classmate girl who broke off. I had to leave. Great-grandmother demanded me to her village, it was hard for her to manage my grandparents alone. They were both blind. Grandfather lost his sight in the war. Grandmother at two years old due to measles epidemic. And we followed our father in different garrisons. My older brother was finishing school, so I had to go. I didn’t want to. He was worried terribly.
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                No, my girls went to the seventh class. And oh, how not at the time !!!! what
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              It was something good
              All-Union holiday !!!!
              Sometimes I review the first match 7: 3 in YouTube
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                Yes, yes! I look too. And also a masterpiece of Montreal Canadiens-CSKA! good
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                  Yes, yes! I look too. And also a masterpiece of Montreal Canadiens-CSKA!

                  I review a lot of things ...
                  It's like going back in time to a time machine ...
                  It seems like you look and remember what it is like that day. was ... And I do not remember)) I remember something else ...
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                  Yes, yes! I look too. And also a masterpiece of Montreal Canadiens-CSKA! good

                  You mean the New Year s78 / 79 score0: 6, Myshkin with a collar and after the match Canadians pull off his mask from him to see what kind of miracle was in the frame ????
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                    Greetings! No, I'm talking about the match on December 31, 76! 3-3! At the gate-Tretiak !!!! You probably about the Canada Cup? Here there was our 6-0, and at the gate Myshkin. lol
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                      In pursuit: The match was held in New York on February 11, 1979. good
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                      Exactly, it was 79 years old ...
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                      Good evening! By the way, the little one was also mistaken! The match between Montreal and CSKA was held on New Year's Eve 1975-76, that is, in fact / our time / most likely January 1, 1976!
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                      All club matches were held during the Christmas holidays. I can be mistaken, but the Canadian Cup was held in May, and in 77, just in May, I just left for the CA (May 11) and we were 8 or 9, the Canadians carried 4: 3 Canadians ... Eh !!!!! There was a time!!!
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                      December 28 with the Rangers, 7-3, this is the first match of CSKA. And on January 7, Wings played with Chicago and lost 2-4. The dirtiest match was with Philadelphia, where Clark was garbage, to say the least, a scoundrel !!!!!
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                      Error: Canada Cup was in 76, in September, Canada-Czechoslovak Final 6-0. hi
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                      77 year. And you are not talking about the world champion, by chance?
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                      About him, I am getting old however ....
                      To blame.
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                      It’s a pity that we don’t have a tryndelka where we can talk about fishing, sports, and finally, for life. ''
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                      Come on! good The golden time of Soviet hockey: good 70th !!!!
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                      ,, ... this never happens again ... '' (Gems)
                      Oh, so sorry ...
                      I remember the 73 year-match of CSKA-Wings ... A. Firsov still played for CSKA, and for Wings, the sidekick was Sidelnikov.
                      From the left face-off point, Firsov charges, the scribble, and gets Sidelnikov in a helmet, a helmet in half, Sidelnikov was carried away on a stretcher. Until now, the moment before my eyes ... Why ?, I don’t understand ...
                      A Lebedev / Anisin / Bodyunov + Kapustin-TALE !!!!
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    ! What is the most vivid memory you have of that time? If to yourself, then definitely a super-series72 !!!!

    no 3rd period of the USSR-Czechoslovakia Innsbruck 76
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      Wow! Hi Ruslan! Valery Kharlamov! 4-3 !!!!!!!!
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        Wow! Hi Ruslan! Valery Kharlamov! 4-3 !!!!!!!!

        Do you guys have no alcohol at night?
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    . But it is now stretched .... for a long time!

    Our fathers in the courtyard were cutting dominoes until late at night, so when my mother "drove home", I shouted to her that I would come with my dad laughing
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    Do you remember how your relatives screamed from the windows - they called home, now you won’t see such a thing

    And in the evening
    "Go home immediately !!! I told someone !!!" laughing
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      In childhood, the whole yard played a "donut with a bun." Brick on it is a tin can. One drives, the others try to knock them down with sticks and bats in order to gain "ranks" and not burn up from the one who drives .. He also loved a game that no one remembers anywhere. Fighting - so it was called with us,. Pillar, rope, string bag, ball and field around. Aim to reel the ball on a pole.
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        We have easier summer football, * American *, Cossack robbers. Winter hockey, * King of the hill *, snowballs. Everything is simple and fun!
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          Phil77
          Today

          ,,, there were no bast shoes?
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            Hi! No, somehow I didn’t take root. Here we played in * towns. But without fanaticism, the basis was football and hockey.
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        In childhood, the whole yard played a "donut with a bun." Brick on it is a tin can. One drives, the others try to knock them down with sticks and bats in order to gain "ranks" and not burn up from the one who drives .. He also loved a game that no one remembers anywhere. Fighting - so it was called with us,. Pillar, rope, string bag, ball and field around. Aim to reel the ball on a pole.

        + 3 games. 11 pieces of glass .... 9 pebbles, "holes" with a ball .... bast shoes with a ball ..... I don’t mention my grandmother and grandmother as a pre-war lesson .... I don’t even know some rules ... . request
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    And no one ran around the courts, getting in the face.

    The precinct (police squad) quickly issued for 15 days.
    Quote: Michael m

    And on many other occasions.

    Do not carry crap. Better tell me on what occasions? By stealing neighbor chickens?
    Quote: Michael m
    And squealing was considered a shame.

    You have mixed up something. Each policeman had informants, and it was considered “shame” only to convey to the criminal (former) who committed the offense. So in Soviet times, the thieves "elite" interpreted the concept.
    Quote: Michael m
    And they went to school unaccompanied.

    Not only to school, but even to kindergartens and other places.
    Quote: Michael m
    And they lived simply according to the concepts of justice.

    We did not live by the concepts of justice. We lived according to the moral code of the builder of communism (for that matter). From childhood:
    - October - the grandchildren of Lenin; October - future pioneers;
    - a pioneer - an example to all the guys;
    - if you name is a Komsomol member - strengthen your name with your deeds;
    - The CPSU is the vanguard of the entire Soviet people.
    hi
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      Excuse me, what code, what builder?
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    Four-year-old Pavlik quickly jumped out of bed and “dressed himself”, that is, he pulled back a bra with linen buttons and put his bare feet in his shoes.
    V. Kataev. Lonely sail whitens


    anyone that hurts, he says something about that. What kind of bra is this for a boy? What is there to support him?
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      What is this bra for the boy? What is there to support him?

      In the article, not only is it written, but also this.
      Mike, and on top of it - well, exactly the same flannel bra like Pavlik, but I always tried to wear it with buttons in front. He had two straps, walked at the level of the abdomen and chest, and below him were four harnesses sewn with very tricky stockings.

      But this is if not read diagonally
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      What is this bra for the boy? What is there to support him

      It's hard for me to judge. what is it - I did not have it. But if people write that there were people like them not to believe? My mother over there forced me to wear warm tights in the winter under my trousers. Brother mocked.
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        incomprehensible another Tot Pavlik ---- before the revolution, like ?. So why not make fun of it in the meantime?
        Quote: Rich
        Quote: Bar1
        What is this bra for the boy? What is there to support him

        It's hard for me to judge. what is it - I did not have it. But if people write that there were people like them not to believe? My mother over there forced me to wear warm tights in the winter under my trousers. Brother mocked.
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          incomprehensible another Tot Pavlik ---- before the revolution, like ?.

          Well, didn’t you read Kataev’s Lone Sail White?
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            No, I didn’t read it. Once upon a time on the radio was. A very long time ago .......
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: Reptiloid
            incomprehensible another Tot Pavlik ---- before the revolution, like ?.

            Well, didn’t you read Kataev’s Lone Sail White?
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              I've read your comments on all articles of Vyacheslav Olegovich. You didn’t read it, you didn’t get to that point, if you don’t know anything, why are you writing?
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                And I comment only on those articles by Shpakovsky VO, which I read and not all, as you wrote laughing , I mention those books that I read and read.
                lol meane asked ---- i answered lol direct question -------- direct answer! What is lying?
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    I sometimes think: we had tough, sometimes cruel, rules, but they were fair in their own way. Two on one could not. If two of them beat one, he brought the elder and then the "teaching" was going on. I was in the second, and my classmate with my older brother (he was at 4) was hacked. I brought a 7th grader. And then no offense. Everything was within the framework of our customs.
    When I was in the 3rd or 4th, we looked closely so that second-graders did not offend the younger ones ..
    By God, we would like to introduce our "concepts" (we did not know such a word) now in the state. At least there would be more order
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    The author mentioned the Soviet upbringing that they troll the fat ones and shout everything. Well now, of course, beat no one shouting fat, now they shout "ay, apron of suit." Well, a schoolboy who is doused with drugs, you will not surprise anyone
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    The suitcases were terrible .... Not the right word. Somewhere we got a bag. I went with him to pioneer camps with pepper. Everyone was tormented with these suitcases, but I did not.
    If you recall, by the way, also backpacks ...
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      The suitcases were terrible.

      I still have this at home laughing
      I keep in it every little thing that I throw away a pity and which sometimes comes in handy
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      The suitcases were terrible .... If you recall, by the way, also backpacks ...
      We have 3 old suitcases at home, when my grandmother died, we brought 2 small ones with documents and a photo from her --- cardboard with ordinary metal corners and plywood sheathed in dermantine with shiny, just mirror corners !!!! Immediately obvious ---- super-suitcase! Well, and one more, big cardboard. In principle, where to go on the train, it was probably more convenient for adults when the clothes were wrinkled and it was necessary to iron them. He pulled out of a large suitcase ---- nothing is crumpled
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        He is super when lying. And when you have to wear it, it’s uzhos. Inconvenient box with breaking locks. They even sold special belts with a wooden handle to them. To tie a suitcase. Then it was more convenient to carry it and it was not terrible to hand over luggage - at least it would not open. In the Soviet airports with passengers and their luggage did not stand on ceremony. And to prove something was unrealistic.
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          They threw out Rremni, dried up. People had suitcases on the cabinets. They were different in price. Even antiques. Saw in this century in communal apartments. People live differently
          Quote: mmaxx
          He is super when lying. And when you have to wear it, it’s uzhos. Inconvenient box with breaking locks. They even sold special belts with a wooden handle to them. To tie a suitcase. Then it was more convenient to carry it and it was not terrible to hand over luggage - at least it would not open. In the Soviet airports with passengers and their luggage did not stand on ceremony. And to prove something was unrealistic.
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      the backpack was an integral attribute of the pioneer camp yes
      And also flasks. They’ve never come in handy, but they’ve taken to the camp smile
      1. Van 16 April 16 2020 08: 40 New
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        Another flashlight)) but there was a strain with batteries
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          As an alternative was a flashlight bug.
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            As an alternative was a flashlight bug.

            With a terribly tight spring laughing
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            As an alternative was a flashlight bug.

            I have one to this day in N / A.
    4. Aviator_ April 16 2020 09: 53 New
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      I went to the pioneer camp with my father's "disturbing" suitcase. Small, comfortable.
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    The children were really meaner. They teased for everything that was different.
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      Quote: mmaxx
      The children were really meaner. They teased for everything that was different.

      Somehow no one from the family did not remember. They say --- who dressed like. And in my 90s they didn’t laugh, they didn’t tease. "" Respected "" if the jeans or shoes are branded, or the skin is branded, or the tracksuit is branded.
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        Quote: Reptiloid
        Somehow no one from the family did not remember. They say --- who dressed like. And in my 90s they didn’t laugh, they didn’t tease. "" Respected "" if the jeans or shoes are branded, or the skin is branded, or the tracksuit is branded.


        we didn’t have such a thing in the 60s-70s: at first there was a compulsory uniform at school, in high school, who was much worth it (but no one especially allocated for clothes).
        allocated for power and authority.

        Jeans started already at the university ...
        1. Phil77 April 16 2020 07: 27 New
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          Jeans have already begun in high school

          Hi Andrey! We had a * peep * in high school, a school jacket, and jeans below. I had * LEE *, Dad was generous and bought through a friend! By the way, I'm still a fan of this company. But ... the quality is far from the same! lol
          1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 08: 09 New
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            . I had * LEE *, Dad was generous and bought through a friend!

            Market price from 180 in Moscow, to 200-250 in the province
            1. Phil77 April 16 2020 08: 11 New
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              Dad took it cheaper. His friend from the naval service remained in the merchant navy. Here he asked for it. So this acquaintance was his friend.
              1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 08: 36 New
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                Dad took a cheaper one. His friend from the naval service remained in the merchant navy.

                Lucky
                . That's what he asked.

                That's why they were looking for such friends
                And the jeans brought tourists. Bought there and sold here to pay for the trip
              2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 10: 15 New
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                Don't you remember that? lol
                "I was offered to buy here" WHITE TRUCKS ON ZIPERS WITH A FINE LIBE ON A LEFT PACKET " laughing
            2. 3x3zsave April 16 2020 08: 56 New
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              The "guilds" in St. Petersburg sewed 80-100 rubles.
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                Quote: 3x3zsave
                The "guilds" in St. Petersburg sewed 80-100 rubles.

                Yes, not only in St. Petersburg.
                But the people quickly learned to distinguish "firms" from "samopal" laughing
                Although, of course, they “sucked in”
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              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Phil77
              . I had * LEE *, Dad was generous and bought through a friend!

              Market price from 180 in Moscow, to 200-250 in the province

              In which "province"? From Izhevsk to Estonia, we made voyages behind our trousers. "Kaopa poika" - a store purchase - is the nickname of one of my sculpted friends at that time ...)))
              Yes, I don’t care, ik, I got myself a troika for hack-work (I plowed for 2 months) I bought 82 meters from Cardin in pure wool with silver thread ()))))) ....
              Jeans? and they didn’t swim in the same river. One thing is bad - when I arrived with an urgent, the mole shook everything, only the vest and stayed ....)))))))) For a minute ... 400 with this appendage x, the cost was not regretted for a minute .... ..
          2. Van 16 April 16 2020 08: 45 New
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            I was the first Indian, avis, it’s kind of called, I don’t remember the price, the quality, by the way, was good.
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              I was the first Indian, avis, it’s kind of called, I don’t remember the price, the quality, by the way, was good.

              100-120
            2. Phil77 April 16 2020 13: 40 New
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              Ivan! And there were still Bulgarian * Rila *. Well, and how not to remember ours * Tver *, the line on the back pocket is almost a rainbow! laughing
              1. Van 16 April 16 2020 15: 19 New
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                And still, before jeans, we had a fashion for rivets, rivets were fastened on pants, on pockets, on the bottom, at the seams, the more rivets, the more fashionable smile
                1. Phil77 April 16 2020 16: 28 New
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                  It was, it was! And there was such a * chip *! On the bottom of jeans, trousers, * zippers * were sewn on, or some kind of * was riveted * with cheap coins! Have you had such a thing?
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                    There were lightnings)) and this fashion held for a long time, but there is no coin, I do not remember.
                    1. Phil77 April 16 2020 16: 52 New
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                      And we had it: they bent penny coins in half and with a hammer on the bottom of trousers / jeans /, broads and done. But persistent rumors circulated that uncles-militiamen were hunting for such mods. laughing
                      1. Van 16 April 16 2020 17: 12 New
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                        At one time, for shoes, for horseshoe heels, they were so small that you attached them, you walk along the road, then you burn so hard on the asphalt, the main thing is that the sparks fly)) the shoes, however, also ... fly, the heels did not live for a long time))
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                        Ha ha ha ha! It was so fun in our army.
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              .Well, and how not to remember our * Tver *, a line on the back pocket, almost a livery!

              The first in St. Petersburg were mine request Two months before the start of official sales
              My sister worked at the Mod House.
              Kalinin (then) and they were sewn by my indochka
              1. Phil77 April 18 2020 05: 29 New
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                Ruslan. I can’t answer easily, * I'm running * to work! I’ll come and answer more extensively!
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                Yeah! Now you can talk.
                Ruslan, did you have jeans from an Indian manufacture? After all, the first lots were from ours and they could be safely called only * pants with rivets *. laughing
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                  Quote: Phil77
                  jeans from indian manufactory?

                  From Italian Trial Party
        2. Olgovich April 16 2020 09: 22 New
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          Quote: Phil77
          Hi Andrey! We had a * peep * in high school, a school jacket, and jeans below. I had * LEE *, Dad was generous and bought through a friend! By the way, I'm still a fan of this company. But ... the quality is far from the same!

          Greetings, Sergey!

          At school, we still did not have jeans, we were ...DOCKS-also blue trousers with stitches, but not jeans and not sawed-Chinese production (this is the 70s).

          I already bought jeans for myself and already after university ...

          Yes, I had brown belay "Polish jeans with RUST buttons and rivets. Not" sawn " request

          In the university - trousers, docks and green pants stroyotryadovskoy uniform.
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            docks and green pants of a construction team uniform.

            Well then, the construction team clothes were considered special chic
            They went to dances in it
          2. Reptiloid April 16 2020 11: 36 New
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            Wow! Furious construction team! Relatives all went. And in the Leningrad region, and in Astrakhan, and in Siberia somewhere ....
            1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 12: 18 New
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              Wow! Furious construction team! Relatives all went. And to the Leningrad region, and to Astrakhan, and to Siberia somewhere ..

              Stroyotryadovtsam well paid. But they worked a lot. To get into the construction team was a huge success
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                ....... Stroyotryadovtsam well paid. But they worked a lot. To get into the construction team was a huge success

                Probably, the matter is not in luck, but in the institute or technical school. Teachers, techies ---- traveled. But about the doctors ---- I'm not sure. But not everyone wanted to?
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                  But about the doctors ---- not sure

                  I do not know. We only had a polytechnic and a ped
                  But not everyone probably wanted to?

                  Competition was
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                  But about the doctors ---- not sure.

                  Doctors earned money in their own way. We went home, did injections.
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                  It was not a matter of luck, but of a concrete construction team. So, the most prestigious salaries for us were the Far Eastern and Kuril detachments (up to 2000 Soviet rubles in the mid-70s), Kazakhstan was quoted lower, but getting there was easier (800 -1000 r), and the Moscow Region 100 if you were very lucky. In the Moscow region, I had a compulsory construction team after the second year (there was a redistribution of groups, they were now formed by specialties). In Zagorsk (now Ser. Posad), the GDR chicken coops were built in the organization EHVNIITIP. There was always a medical student in any construction team; we were also given three hooligans from Lobny for re-education.
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              Well then, the construction team clothes were considered special chic

              Exactly. A brother in the eighth grade somewhere like that. All in the stripes - as I remember now - IVTI. I went to the park to dance in it, showed off - mowed down as a student laughing
      2. Reptiloid April 16 2020 07: 38 New
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        ...... we didn’t have such a thing in the 60s-70s: at first there was a compulsory uniform at school, in high school, who was much in what (but no one especially allocated for clothes) ... .
        somehow it’s not easy to buy a uniform for high school students, probably, was it? Or didn’t you want the same?
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          I will say for 80gg. A school uniform for high school students existed and it was not a problem to buy it. It differed from the form of the lower and middle classes. For girls, the skirt and cardigan is dark. For boys, trousers and a jacket. The transition to another form was carried out from the beginning of the 8th grade. Various variations on the theme of "business style" were not forbidden, but the "dress code" had to be respected. That is, it was impossible to come to school in a miniskirt or jeans, they simply would not be allowed to go.
          1. Phil77 April 16 2020 08: 14 New
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            Hi Anton! There were concessions to the upper grades, we still wore jeans. 1979. Yes! And there was * a chip * !!!! Branded plastic bags !!!
            1. 3x3zsave April 16 2020 08: 22 New
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              Sergei! hi
              In Moscow - maybe. But I come from a small town beyond the Arctic Circle. Only in the last class we were allowed to wear a free uniform.
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              Branded cellophane bags !!!

              At a price of 6 rubles for gypsies in Anapa!
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                At a price of 6 rubles for gypsies in Anapa!

                Which also washed laughing
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                  And how did they erase it?! Carefully, neatly! laughing Damn, now here, right, it's funny and sad! Thanks to the author !!!!
            3. Van 16 April 16 2020 08: 46 New
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              Packages! There were such a time, on the one hand Pugachev, on the other Boyarsky))
              1. Phil77 April 16 2020 08: 52 New
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                Greetings! Uh, no! I mean the branded ones! On occasion I got Mom, I got the key word, I got it! Or rather, I got it!, * Wrangler * package. That was wow !!!! laughing
                1. Van 16 April 16 2020 09: 01 New
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                  Well, yes, they were some kind of self-made, but branded it was cool "well, finally!" )))
                  1. Phil77 April 16 2020 17: 05 New
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                    And here's another one! Canvas bag bags remember? Also with a variety of patterns on rope handles?
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                      Yes! Cool, by the way, were))
                2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 09: 35 New
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                  From the "diffshenkav" probably no end lol
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                Packages! There were such a time, on the one hand Pugachev, on the other Boyarsky))

                And they still had to "get" laughing
              3. kalibr April 16 2020 09: 57 New
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                The coolest bags were with a guy who put his hand on the back of a girl in jeans. "I came to your house in Levi Strpaus new jeans, you and I will get a high in grated Super Rifle jeans! Ai-luli, ai-luli, the sky was the color of Lee!"
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                  Quote: kalibr
                  The coolest bags were with a guy who put his hand on the back of a girl in jeans. "I came to your house in Levi Strpaus new jeans, you and I will get a high in grated Super Rifle jeans! Ai-luli, ai-luli, the sky was the color of Lee!"

                  That's what! At home, we have homemade buttons from these companies since those times! Pieces 6 total! Domestic craftsmen did! Museum exhibit!
                  1. Phil77 April 16 2020 18: 42 New
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                    Earlier they sold almost everywhere in metal repair kiosks. Here you have * lee *, here you have * wrangler *, and next * levi's *, and the rest * montans * .And there they also sold leather labels for jeans.
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                  Quote: kalibr
                  The coolest bags were with a guy who put his hand on the back of a girl in jeans. "I came to your house in Levi Strpaus new jeans, you and I will get a high in grated Super Rifle jeans! Ai-luli, ai-luli, the sky was the color of Lee!"

                  Who has a shirt, adidas, any defect will give ...
                  there was such a thing.
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            This certainly cannot be imagined, Anton! Such requirements! And the girls walked in leggings. And nothing! True, in the late 90s, but before the crisis, there was talk that such diversity is wrong and we would have to come up with a form and order it! But 98th crossed out these intentions!
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              It depends on where. I bought the senior form of the year until 2002. Gymnasium in Greek, if that.
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                It depends on where. I bought the senior form of the year until 2002. Gymnasium in Greek, if that.

                In 92 he went to the first class of a new school in the Primorsky district.
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                  The eldest son (adoptive) went to first grade in 96, at first also in the Petrograd district. Then they transferred to the gymnasium and there was uniform. However, she is still there.
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                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    The eldest son (adoptive) went to first grade in 96, at first also in the Petrograd district. Then they transferred to the gymnasium and there was uniform. However, she is still there.

                    Not at the Pudozh gymnasium?
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                      No, in Greek, the official address is on the 7th Soviet. There is a public garden, next to the BKZ, opposite it.
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                      A new school with a new system, some new subjects appeared, some kind of book about pregnancy was and what needs to be done wassat tongue this is in elementary school ...
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        We had coupons for buying school uniforms. But there were queues! It's something. Like * vodka *.
      4. Mordvin 3 April 16 2020 09: 06 New
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        somehow it’s not easy to buy a uniform for high school students, probably, was it?

        In the 80s - no problem.
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Or didn’t you want the same?

        No one really bothered about this. Unless the girls, maybe. Well, that's why they are girls.
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        somehow it’s not easy to buy a uniform for high school students, probably, was it? Or didn’t you want the same?


        Nobody was going to buy a uniform already somewhere from the 6-7th class: who went to what extent,

        Mini, of course, were expelled implicitly
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        Buy was not a problem. But she was bored. Threads were torn by the end of the year. I remember that the armpits were constantly flashing. And the cut was not the most comfortable. So that everyone does not fit a little))). Children grew up. Sometimes, personally, I had to buy twice a year. And since it was necessary to wear, it caused a certain protest. I just recently began to wear a dark blue color in suits. Before that, he was tired of allergies at school.
    2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 08: 08 New
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      Jeans started already at the university ...

      Yes. Somewhere from the beginning to mid 70s. And they were called at the beginning of "Texas" laughing
      2 people came from the village to Moscow to dress up. Go to the store
      - Do you have jixes?
      - No, only the Chukhas
      - Oh light, wrap it up
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Somehow no one from the family did not remember. They say --- who dressed like. And in my 90s they didn’t laugh, they didn’t tease. "" Respected "" if the jeans or shoes are branded, or the skin is branded, or the tracksuit is branded.


      we didn’t have such a thing in the 60s-70s: at first there was a compulsory uniform at school, in high school, who was much worth it (but no one especially allocated for clothes).
      allocated for power and authority.

      Jeans started already at the university ...

      And the teachers told us that ... a ballpoint pen is the machinations of imperialism.
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    Yes, already in the 90s it was easier. The wife is a teacher, she herself noted this.
    Nowadays - the 70s - teased for everything. In the 80s, it either became easier, or he himself had already grown and did not care. It felt like there was a sort of people who were just looking for an excuse. Not that, not so, not that. God forbid, parents put on the wrong pants, the wrong pants. You’ll fly home to change clothes and you will never wear them later. And if the redhead (thick, etc., etc.) and the hair cannot be changed, then they teased everyone anyway and always. And for evil. Monkey self-affirmation.
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    The children were really meaner. They teased for everything that was different.

    This is not true. They didn’t like individualists, and few of them were ....

    Our yard is a holy cause. The neighbors humiliated our musician ..... I don’t care at all ... they don’t value ours!
    Serious conversation .... Things were resolved easily, the "musician" support group escorted from home to place
    in the end: My favorite concert of an unnamed band on our hockey “Square” example.
    It was, for them, seriously ... A year later, the “Time Machine” came to us in Izhevsk
    It was great ... "my nobles" remembered ....
    There was such a hockey team "Izhstal" .... was, for a long time ...
    And the "time machine" was, for a long time ... Now the Izhevsk super towers are annoying me .... Le Corbusier .... It's sad ... recourse
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    That is so! Looked closely at the photo with the suitcases. And he saw an umbrella. I still have this somewhere. They gave the children to play. They climbed into it. In the inverted. Find where he is.
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    His Excellency Ilya Nikolaevich Ulyanov, since 1877 - a full-time state councilor, he worked too much in raising other people's children. There was no time to engage in their own. Therefore, one son became a terrorist, the other a foreign agent (with German money) who committed a coup, and only a third became a doctor and never engaged in politics.
    For your information:
    The actual state adviser - the civil rank of the 4th grade of the Table of Ranks (1724-1917, Russian Empire), gave the right to hereditary nobility. Corresponded to the ranks of major general in the army and rear admiral in the navy, and also (in 1809) to the court rank of chamberlain. It was titled "Your Excellency." (Wiki)

    By the way: Ilya Nikolaevich worked and was friends with Fedor Mikhailovich Kerensky - the father of the notorious A.F. Kerensky. "Friends of families."
    In 1887, after Alexander Ilyich Ulyanov was arrested and executed, he gave the brother of the revolutionary Vladimir Ulyanov a positive characterization for entering Kazan University. (wiki)

    Here is such a "pedagogical team."
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      Quote: Amateur
      His Excellency Ilya Nikolaevich Ulyanov, since 1877 - a full-time state councilor, he worked too much in raising other people's children. There was no time to engage in their own. Therefore, one son became a terrorist, the other a foreign agent (with German money) who committed a coup, and only a third became a doctor and never engaged in politics.

      You still forgot the "beauties" of this "wonderful": family: Manyasha and Anyasha,- rare horror stories .... belay
      But-levolyutsinerki lol
  • Phil77 April 16 2020 06: 51 New
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    Good morning! Thanks smiled at the memories! But about the photo a la the 90s. Specific guys didn’t wear such pants-pipes. The pants were wide and narrowed below! And the jacket looks like it, oh, it looks like!
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      Specific boys did not wear such pipe pants.

      And the "chain" was not silver, but "gold" laughing
  • Gardamir April 16 2020 07: 48 New
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    Raise the eyelids to Shpakovsky. His zuleikha in.
    As for the attributes of that time, so times are changing. And whoever didn’t tease anyone, did not beat. I didn’t look at the girl’s underpants.
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      On the contrary, I want to thank the author for a walk in my childhood. It turned out to be a good article and discussion.
      Although better than Lipchanin (Sergey) and you won’t say:
      People remember childhood and youth, share memories. Everything is quiet, peaceful, calm. Nobody is rude to anyone
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      Quote: Gardamir
      I didn’t look at the girl’s underpants.

      In the USSR, there was no sex. This we know. From shops in the bathhouse girls crawled from this and it happened!
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        kalibr (Vyacheslav)
        In the USSR, there was no sex. This we know. From shops in the bathhouse girls crawled from this and it happened!
        Judging by your pseudo-historical opuses, that’s how you conceived. laughing
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          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Judging by your pseudo-historical opuses, that’s how you conceived.

          Well, your face grimaced and what did you achieve? You clicked in favor of the site, for which thank you. As for the rest, you read my opuses, you read and are doomed to count them further. So don’t be ill and put clicks!
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            kalibr (Vyacheslav)
            Well, your erysipelas
            Erysipelas, it’s more likely with you, but I have a face.
            As for the rest, you read my opuses, you read and are doomed to count them further.
            Well, thank you, I don’t read every ram, I prefer something more intellectual.
            So don't get sick
            Same to you...
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              Well, thank you, I don’t read every ram, I prefer something more intellectual.

              Is it really my grinning emoticon worth it? Interested in Intelligent? Fine! But what are you doing here if you are not reading the “ram”? In my opinion, you just read it and it does not give you peace. Go read better about the Russo-Aryans-Hyperboreans ...
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                Go read better about the Russo-Aryans-Hyperboreans ...
                Do not tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go.
                In my opinion, you just read it and it does not give you peace.
                And your frank lie about the Soviet period does not give me peace. What colleagues from VO repeatedly pointed out to you.
                However, the Changeling, he is in Africa and in the WHO Changeling. negative
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                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  And your frank lie about the Soviet period does not give me peace

                  It’s good that you are so restless! Because it gives us new clicks, and clicks increase the investment attractiveness of the site. So keep worrying further, I personally will only be happy. By the way, what do you see as a lie in this article? What boys did not wear bras, and men garter?
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                      And now we strain our brains and realize that if the banana peel does not rinse, then ... Neil will dry up and the crocodile will die in a drought!
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      It was, it was ...
  • Van 16 April 16 2020 09: 17 New
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    And for some reason, it’s completely incomprehensible why, I remembered ink pens, those that were refilled with ink, and were worn in wooden pencil cases ..
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      My brother and I had a bottle of ink in the window in the window to fill our pens. My brother’s pen was screwed, I’ve got a simple rubber pipette. Such
      1. Van 16 April 16 2020 09: 54 New
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        Oh yes! At different times, there was such and such))
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        We were not allowed to use them before grade 2
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        Until the 4th grade they wrote with pens with non-spill inkwells, in the 4th grade (1965) they allowed to use fountain pens, but only with an open pen, as in this photo. In the 6th grade, ballpoint pens, which appeared in bulk, were already allowed.
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          Sergey, but do you remember such “magic” pens? Four colors. How convenient they were to draw
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            Mostly two-tone remember, completely plastic. These four-color ones are really cool.
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              I also remember from my childhood school two-tone red-blue pencils “Victory”,

              chemical pencils - if you slurp them with ink, they also wrote the special “my pride” father’s officer line
              1. Aviator_ April 16 2020 14: 51 New
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                With such a two-color pencil, my mother checked the students' work, she taught at the medical school. And my father’s navigational protractor with the squeezed year “1947”, unfortunately, I can’t imagine, is at work, and the pass there is blocked until the end of the epidemic.
    2. Lipchanin April 16 2020 09: 59 New
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      Quote: Van 16
      those that were refilled with ink, and were worn in wooden pencil cases ..

      And ink spills
      1. Van 16 April 16 2020 10: 03 New
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        There was an inkwell and fountain pens at home, but we didn’t use it anymore, such refueling pens were already here, as in the photo above.
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          Our brother for two had one desk, glass on it. Under the glass lay the lesson schedule. the central drawer was mine, and those drawers in the table and with the keys are fraternal. On the table was a glass for pencils, a table lamp, an ink plex device with an ASF clock, presented to my father by colleagues from the GSVG when transferring to the Union, and, another sign of that time, a calendar
          1. Van 16 April 18 2020 07: 42 New
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            Glass on the table is a classic. And a lesson schedule underneath. Plus other useful reminders. Then I got different "space" pictures there, mainly from the Technique of Youth, then pictures of musicians like Abba or the Beatles .. Thank you for reminding me!
  • Senior seaman April 16 2020 09: 23 New
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    I’m younger trochi :))) but I remember something. Including a "bra for boys", but only when he was visiting with his grandmother and at a very tender age. And so much so that I thought for a long time that it was some strange twist of children's memory, and not real memories. Then he began to study the issue and realized that it was like that.
    “Oil” from each other, we, by a sinful affair, stung. But it was not an evil, but rather a mischievous joke. Yes, and stings not only from thick ones. I was still dystrophic, but here you go ...
    They could easily get hold of the whole class. But to the point! I remember once Misha S. was a naughty teacher and right there I got it.
    Girls in my time (more precisely, when it already became of interest to me :)) wore mostly tights. But there was a target for shooting. The back, where a bra clasp was visible under the dress. To get into it was ... cool. However, the girls we were fighting, and reprisals for such tricks followed immediately! :)))
  • aglet April 16 2020 09: 43 New
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    Lord, in what harsh country did you live, and when? it seems, somewhere in the 20-30 years? in the republic of shkid? kerosene lamp, garters, constant - hit him? so where and when? or is everything invented after visiting the museum of pre-revolutionary life? I don’t remember such horrors, but I'm already old enough
    1. kalibr April 16 2020 09: 52 New
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      Read the comment from a person from Tashkent. Everything was the same there. And the years ... the years from 1960 to 1972 ...
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    Quote: Reptiloid
    Maybe the author is exaggerating?

    no, he just invents them, transferring the facts of the 20s, on the reality of the 70s
  • aglet April 16 2020 09: 51 New
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    Therefore ... "thicken" is more expensive. Explain available?

    so what do you explain? author’s fantasies?
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      This is not an explanation. He is an artist. Amplitude is. He "sees so."
  • aglet April 16 2020 09: 57 New
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    Quote: kalibr
    Read the comment from a person from Tashkent. Everything was the same there. And the years ... the years from 1960 to 1972 ...

    why should I read a person from Tashkent, there was never Soviet power there, and a kerosene lamp in 1972 could very well have been the case. but in the USSR in which I lived, and at that time, most of your fabrications only on fantasy can be pulled, or rather, on denigrating
    1. kalibr April 16 2020 11: 07 New
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      There are a lot of comments from my peers and not from Tashkent, who write about the same. Well, and about the blackening, I also wrote. If everything was perfect, then today we would live in the USSR. So much more blacken ... The most blackened above the roof!
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        There are a lot of comments from my peers and not from Tashkent, who write about the same.

        Vyacheslav Olegovich, good afternoon! hi
        I read the article carefully. It is written with soul, and with thinly lived emotions behind the scenes. Very nice to read. soldier Unfortunately, I ask little of my relatives about those years. recourse
        But my dad, as he “uses”, always tells how they in high school fought wall to wall in Voronezh province. This is his "standby bike"! laughing
        About underwear - you know, the movie “Malena” reminded me of Monica Bellucci (good!). It’s just Italy under Mussolini, the 30-40s, and older guys make fun of the main hero, boy, "You have not grown out of short pants!" stop Like, in normal trousers young men already go, and if you are a teenager - then in shorts, and you are not our company!

        I look forward to continuing. In general, I want to note that the vast majority of us like such topics, they allow us to stir up memory. good
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        The most blackened above the roof!
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, do you not know that nothing "the most" is happening in society.
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      I am from Tashkent, we have a city of three million people, in the USSR the fourth in size was so silent that the provincial, commissar ......
  • aglet April 16 2020 10: 00 New
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    So there really is no sense in “calling” to Shpakovsky.

    it means that he does it without any sense in order to sway the air and remind himself. now, the meaning has appeared, and suddenly they will forget
  • aglet April 16 2020 10: 14 New
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    And for some reason, it’s completely incomprehensible why, I remembered ink pens, those that were refilled with ink, and were worn in wooden pencil cases ..

    fountain pens? in pencil cases? and you did not wear ballpoint pens in pencil cases?
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      fountain pens? in pencil cases? and you did not wear ballpoint pens in pencil cases?
      Yes, in the pencil cases. What surprised you so much?

      These are fountain pens.
      And the ball, which in 1970 cost, if my memory serves me, the ruble.
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        And in my opinion 35 cents. But we were not allowed to write them up to grade 4, such as undermining the mess.
        And I had a cool Gdrovskaya ballpoint pen - with an aunt, you turn the pen upside down - the aunt is undressing. smile My father brought it from Germany, my brother stole from him, and I from his brother laughing Our Soviet rods approached her not thin, but plump. Remember those ?. In the third grade, she gave it to a classmate on February 23, and his father confiscated it from him. This is such a cool cycle laughing
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          35 kopecks later. After the ruble, cheaper up to 70 cents, then up to 35.
  • aglet April 16 2020 10: 15 New
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    And ink spills

    Well, yes, for a fountain pen worn in a pencil case
    1. Lipchanin April 16 2020 13: 33 New
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      Well, yes, for a fountain pen worn in a pencil case

      Oh how.
      And for some reason, it’s completely incomprehensible to me, I remembered the ink pens,

      Well, where is the AUTO pen?
  • Undecim April 16 2020 10: 20 New
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    For some reason, no one remembered what they wrote at school in the 60s.

    At the break, you catch a fly, tear off the wing and the neighbor at the desk in the inkwell.
    Call, lesson. Feather in the inkwell - time. The fly is still alive, from a pen to a notebook - a blooper. Blot on the floor of the sheet and the roar of the whole class. Well, parents to school ...
    And the subject was still such - calligraphy.
    1. rich April 16 2020 10: 55 New
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      For some reason, no one remembered what they wrote at school in the 60s.

      Most of the schoolchildren on the branch of the 70s. Even in my childhood, and I was born in 1960 spills and such pens were already only in the mail
      1. Undecim April 16 2020 10: 59 New
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        And I’m 60, but until the fourth grade we were not allowed to write with other pens.
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          And the desks were "classic."
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            By the way, the most convenient desks. What is now in schools is just ...
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          We forgot about the most important school affiliation - Promakashka yes
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            Yes, the girls still folded them in a special way and inserted a postcard.
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      Quote: Undecim
      At the break, you catch a fly, tear off the wing and the neighbor at the desk in the inkwell.
      Call, lesson. Feather in the inkwell - time. The fly is still alive, from a pen to a notebook - a blooper. Blot on the floor of the sheet and the roar of the whole class. Well, parents to school ...
      And the subject was still such - calligraphy.

      I wanted to write about it next time, and ... I will write. My feathers were "more interesting."
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      At the break, you catch a fly, tear off the wing and the neighbor at the desk in the inkwell.

      Viktor Nikolaevich, what did I say there about the giant Krysoboy and his humanity? what laughing
      Well, I’m already a child of the late Union, we didn’t have any inkwells. And only ballpoint pens. Gel in the 90s appeared.
      To do this, we used "garters", also rubber, but with buckles that blinked to fix them on the leg below the knee.

      Viktor Nikolaevich, what did these garters for men's socks look like? drinks
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        Like that. But in the years of my conscious childhood, they were already out of use and citizens began to ruin their legs with synthetic “dimensionless” socks made of nylon.
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          Just like I wore ... already goosebumps!
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            Just like I wore ... already goosebumps!

            I have not found this ... request
        2. Pane Kohanku April 16 2020 13: 40 New
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          Something like this.

          Your feet in the photo? lol
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            Fortunately not, but I really did not like this whole harness!
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              but I really didn’t like all this harness!

              Well, I think, then the whole world went in a similar one, and only the Colombo gangster - in white leggings! lol
              Vyacheslav Olegovich, but would you like to “squeeze” a cycle about Soviet advertising? wink "Your horse"! wink I just posted a few pictures down the branch ... repeat
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                Vyacheslav Olegovich, but would you like to “squeeze” a cycle about Soviet advertising? "Your horse"! I just posted a few pictures below the branch ..

                Could, of course. That in all the same ... IN. And if the topic of "common history" is still underway, then such a specific topic, I am afraid, will seem superfluous to most.
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                  then such a specific topic, I am afraid, will seem superfluous to the majority.

                  Unfortunately, the "majority" a lot that seems superfluous .... what
      2. Aviator_ April 16 2020 14: 58 New
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        Similar suspenders for socks have been around the world. I remember when I saw them on some caricature of Herluf Bidstrup, I was very surprised, and then in my life I came across. But he never wore it.
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      “For some reason, no one remembered what they wrote in the school in the 60s,” but because 90%. “Scribbler!” - representatives of the "late USSR" -1985-1991 and what they wrote in the 60-70 years, they do not know.
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      Quote: Undecim
      For some reason, no one remembered what they wrote at school in the 60s.

      At the break, you catch a fly, tear off the wing and the neighbor at the desk in the inkwell.
      Call, lesson. Feather in the inkwell - time. The fly is still alive, from a pen to a notebook - a blooper. Blot on the floor of the sheet and the roar of the whole class. Well, parents to school ...
      And the subject was still such - calligraphy.

      A fly, this is for wimps. But pour sugar.
      I was always spawned by a Russian teacher - who forgot the inkwell? and from his pocket he took out a whole handful of ink pills - just add water !!!
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        A fly is honest and open, and sugar - you know, not gentlemanly, to say the least. And the ink from the tablets is useless.
  • A. Privalov April 16 2020 10: 34 New
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    Perhaps the same age as the author. I only lived in a communal apartment, in the center of a big city, in a pre-revolutionary four-story building, but already with steam heating from a small courtyard boiler. In three large rooms, two of which were divided by wooden partitions into two more, 5 families lived - 17 people. One toilet. In the bathroom there was a hefty cast-iron bathtub with peeled off enamel. They didn’t bathe in it (children were bathed in the trough in the room, adults went to the bathhouse), and they washed clothes because there was no hot water, and the newfangled geyser did not pass by any standards.
    Two gas stoves 4 and 3 burners stood in a long corridor. The door to where, in theory, the kitchen should have been boarded up. The wind always blew from the keyhole. In the afternoon, the sky was visible through it, and in the evening the stars. Once, this door was opened and the kitchen was already there. The corridor was released, the gas stoves were moved there. On the wall was found an enameled pan brown to a fine white dot - a gas meter. (Many years later, I found out that this part of the house was blown up after the retreat in September 1941, and now, 13 years after the end of the War, it was rebuilt.)
    The radio we already had was “real” - a wooden case with a yellowish cloth on the front side, with a carbolite knob for volume control and a cardboard back wall with round holes. A socket with unusually narrowly set openings was included in the "radio stream". The neighbors had a black plate. She has a specific itchy sound. The neighbors also had a KVN-49 TV with a glycerin lens. In 1961, we got the Ukraine refrigerator and the Voronezh TV. In 1964, the Dnepr-11 tape recorder and the Festival radio.

    He also wore stockings with garters and a bra on buttons. Grandfather had pants with ropes, and I already got such pants only in the army. The little ones got me warm stockings. Satin sportswear has already appeared at the school. They laughed at knitted underpants, but they wore everything outside the school.

    As for clothes, the author forgot to mention such a thing as “turning”. Lived sparingly. Outerwear passed from elders to younger ones. If possible, alter. The old thing was torn into its constituent parts, they were washed in mustard, and from them, after turning the fabric over with the face side inward, they again sewed clothes.
    I got my first "real" costume for prom. Everything else - jackets, trousers, winter and demi-season coats for me were changed from my father's or grandfather's.

    At that time, many more retired military men received fabrics for sewing clothes. At the flea market - the clothing market, this is also a sign of that era, such fabrics could be bought. Of these, men and women sewed their own clothes. It was considered a chic purchase.

    I went to first grade in the “old” uniform: black-colored trousers and a tunic under the throat with shiny buttons, a cap with a black plastic visor and a cockade in the form of an open book framed by ears, a black belt with a metal buckle. Every day in the evening, hem should be hemmed. The blue form appeared a year later. They wore it until the fourth grade. Then, somehow, the boys' form went away. Went in ordinary clothes. Girls wore uniforms until the tenth grade.
    In our elementary grades, Tolstoy was sometimes teased by the “Zhirpromkombinat, lard and salad," but somehow it’s not particularly zealous. And then there were not very many thick ones.

    I especially want to note children's hats. In winter, they wore a “children's” cigake hat with lined ears or an “adult” with a leather top, where the ears were tied on top with a rope. These emotions did not cause me. But I especially hated fine wool knit hats. They had a special, completely disgusting form - they were cut from the so-called “sleeve” and when they were sewn together, they turned on the head two small corners - the eyelet, and a triangle crawled out on the forehead, where the bangs were, like on a blanket of a circus elephant. I even had a friend Bear because of such a cap nicknamed Elephant.

    I can not help but recall galoshes and bots. Galoshes were worn by all men. For leather shoes, they were a salvation. They were worn with boots and boots and boots. The galoshes were worn out, but they were not thrown away. They could be glued - "vulcanized" in a special workshop.
    Bots were worn by kids and women. There were bots in which you could insert high-heeled shoes.
    In 1961, "new" money appeared. Immediately, the bag with nothing worthless kopecks, which covered the numbers on the cards of grandmother's lotto, turned into a "bag of money." It turned out to be as much as 2 (two!) Rubles. At that time, it was 12 loaves of bread, or 25 kg of potatoes, or 10 servings of ice cream Plombir, a kilogram of beef, 2,5 kilograms of sugar, almost a kilogram of Doctor’s (in fact, at first it cost 1 rub. 80 kopecks. , but a year later it became 2 rubles 20 kopecks.) I know, since by that time I had already gone to school and as befits an adult, everyday purchases were charged to me with responsibilities.
    And this is our 2-b. On this day we were received in October.


    On this occasion, I’m not in uniform, but in a white shirt with short sleeves (above the teacher), since I read Isakovsky’s poems at the ceremonial building:
    Kind and affectionate Lenin
    Looks from the portrait at us -
    How we draw, how we play,
    How good we are now.

    And the Bear-Elephant picked up:
    We are still small, we are still weak
    But gaining strength.
    Grandfather Lenin took care of us,
    He forbade us to offend ...

    Something like that...
    1. kalibr April 16 2020 11: 02 New
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      As for clothes, the author forgot to mention such a thing as “turning”. Lived sparingly. Outerwear passed from elders to younger ones. If possible, alter. The old thing was torn into its constituent parts, they were washed in mustard, and from them, after turning the fabric over with the face side inward, they again sewed clothes.

      I could not write about it, because at home I had never encountered this. Mother and father were divorced and he was far away. And there was nothing to switch from grandfather. And I was born in 1954, in the fall ...
      1. A. Privalov April 16 2020 11: 07 New
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        About the changeover not for the purpose of nit-picking, but it was recalled.
        Quote: kalibr
        And I was born in 1954, in the fall ...

        So do I. drinks hi
        1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 12: 01 New
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          As for the radios - we had a shortwave hidden at home for the "enemy voices" that were jammed.
          Thanks to the device, Dad listened to the "Grandmother's Chest" of Seva Ngvgorodtsev's Russian service to the BBC. )))
          I was furious when Seva scolded my childhood idols - Madonna and Michael Jackson. laughing
          1. Undecim April 16 2020 12: 17 New
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            Judging by your idols, this is by no means before 1975. At this time, there was no need to hide the short-wave receiver; they were freely sold in the store.
            1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 12: 21 New
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              This is 86-87. In the 90th they stopped jamming.
              1. Undecim April 16 2020 12: 29 New
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                And from whom in these years the receiver was hidden?
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                  And from whom in these years the receiver was hidden?

                  KGB, probably - dad said that short-wave receivers are prohibited)).
                  1. Undecim April 16 2020 14: 01 New
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                    In 1986? Prohibited?

                    Transistor radio "Sonata". Since 1965 he produced the Leningrad plant "Radio device". That is, they were banned, but industry released them and sold them freely to the public?
                    Do not slander dad.
                    1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 14: 03 New
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                      I do not slander - all the info from him)). Maybe after the 67th they’ve just banned, by the way.
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                        Portable radio class 2 "Ocean-209." Since 1976, Minsk VET Horizon has been producing. The receiver is based on an earlier model, Ocean-205.
                        You talk to dad. Maybe he had not only a receiver, but also a transmitter, and an encryption notepad. Then yes, I had to hide.
                      2. Krasnodar April 16 2020 20: 53 New
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                        No, I do not slander)) Maybe - he was wrong hi
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                        Found on Wikipedia
                        [/ b] Another way to limit the access of Soviet citizens to information “from the outside” was to limit the production of radio receivers with wavelengths shorter than 25 m. Soviet receivers with these ranges since the mid-1950s. mainly exported and sold very rarely domestically. Therefore, in the USSR, foreign receivers with HF bands, as well as masters who could rebuild the receiver to the high-frequency range, were especially valued. [B]
                      4. Undecim April 16 2020 21: 40 New
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                        But why hide it?
                      5. Krasnodar April 16 2020 23: 21 New
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                        Because they lived by rumors, and on sale he was rare, his father probably did not meet at all. In addition, a Jew, relatives abroad - most likely, were reinsured. Well, at the same time I didn’t want me to tell my friends about wiretapping enemy voices laughing
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                      Found on Wikipedia
                      [/ b] Another way to limit the access of Soviet citizens to information "from the outside" was to limit the production of radios with wave ranges shorter than 25 m.

                      Bullshit is complete. It’s just that our subranges were different from the western ones. They drowned out what receivers produced for the domestic market of the USSR could receive, and even then it was impossible to completely drown out. Most likely, the pope had either an imported receiver or a redone for an extended range. By the way, by order of the Moscow Region, receivers with enemy ranges were released (they did not go on sale), where the voices were not muffled. The lighthouse, Ishim, Integral, some more, I don’t remember anymore.
                    3. Krasnodar April 17 2020 21: 48 New
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                      In my opinion, the Soviet was old. The speaker was attached to it artificially
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                      In my opinion, the Soviet was old.

                      And if you read Vika, it’s interesting to me, from whom the Japanese fenced themselves off with their ranges? From the USSR, or something from the West at the same time?
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                      From all. They still don’t like Americans, but by and large they don’t love anyone
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                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  . The lighthouse, Ishim, Integral, some more, I don’t remember anymore.

                  VEF with a range of 45
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                  VEF with a range of 45

                  These were exported, as far as I remember.
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          yes. it hurts you're slippery.
  • A. Privalov April 16 2020 13: 16 New
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    Quote: Krasnodar
    Dad listened to the "Grandmother's Chest" by Seva Ngvgorodtseva of the Russian service of the BBC. )))

    The first musical transmission of Seva Novgorodtseva in the Russian service of the BBC in the shortwave band was released only on June 9, 1977.
    Listen to a lot of steel since the 60s. Jammed in big cities. In the province, everything went quite clean.
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      Quote: A. Privalov

      The first musical transmission of Seva Novgorodtseva in the Russian service of the BBC in the shortwave band was released only on June 9, 1977.
      Listen to a lot of steel since the 60s. Jammed in big cities. In the province, everything went quite clean.

      We had not just a big city, but the capital of the MSSR)). Ngvgorodtseva, by the way, was jammed less (it seemed to me). A strong stub went on Radio Liberty, Voices of America and Israel
  • Pane Kohanku April 16 2020 13: 19 New
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    As for the radios - we had hidden a shortwave at home

    Albert, recalled: Tourist-312 portable radio is a product of the Grozny Radio Engineering Plant. The ideal tourist model of 1986 ...

    The advertising photo is quite “bold” for the USSR, I think ...
    A selection of then advertising the USSR:
    http://nakonu.com/2019/11/203268
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      As a child, I was surprised by the Soviet advertisement “fly with Aeroflot airplanes”. Only recently I realized that they urged me to travel by air in general laughing
      1. Pane Kohanku April 16 2020 14: 30 New
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        "fly Aeroflot." Only recently I realized that they urged me to travel by air in general

        There were no others! laughing nevertheless, Soviet advertising needs a separate consideration. Well, this is to Caliber! drinks
        1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 15: 02 New
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          The picture is not even a business, but the first class)).
          1. Pane Kohanku April 16 2020 15: 18 New
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            The picture is not even a business, but the first class

            on the other hand, Soviet advertising was sometimes built correctly - namely, using beautiful girls! good

            or here:
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              I even know the place where Zaporozhets was photographed.
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                I even know the place where Zaporozhets was photographed.

                Khortitsa, Victor Nikolaevich? drinks
              2. Undecim April 16 2020 16: 00 New
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                It should be clarified, it seems to me Khortytsya is in the background. I will go by - I'll see. Nevertheless, at least 40 years have passed. Everything has changed.
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                Nevertheless, at least 40 years have passed. Everything has changed.

                and beautifully removed! yes
              4. Red Dragon April 17 2020 17: 13 New
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                This is like Vyrva, near Baburka - the Khortitsky district of Zaporozhye. In the background, Khortytsya and Preobrazhensky Bridge over the channel of the Old Dnieper. wink
      2. Krasnodar April 16 2020 15: 25 New
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        Sekas sells - the first rule of marketing))
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          first rule of marketing

          and people do not change! Regardless of the social system, beautiful girls will always attract attention! drinks
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    Seva Novgorodtsev, a rare eccentric, but scolded correctly, but out of despair, because at that time nothing interesting happened in music.
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      Greetings Anton! hi for the former head of VIA Dobra Molodtsy to criticize Madonna and Jackson - how to drive Petrova to Tom Cruise - both are not WoW, but the level is still different))
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    Quote: Krasnodar
    As for the radios - we had a shortwave hidden at home for the "enemy voices" that were jammed.
    Thanks to the device, Dad listened to the "Grandmother's Chest" of Seva Ngvgorodtsev's Russian service to the BBC. )))
    I was furious when Seva scolded my childhood idols - Madonna and Michael Jackson. laughing

    And I liked the radio “Lighthouse” more - Sunday 14:05 program ,, Record on your tape recorders '', like Tatar led, but. I could be wrong ...
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    I understand that this is not nitpicking. I just did not come across this. You have a very good supplement. For example, about galoshes ... Also, a lot of things are connected with them. But the scope of the article is limited. And you too ... HEALTH!
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    If everything was perfect, then today we would live in the USSR. So much more denigrate ...

    there would be fewer people like you, sons and granddaughters, maybe they would have lived in the USSR. you described in some detail how, in Soviet times, you “mowed” citizenship from their duties, consuming only rights, and there were many of you, such as you were larger and more authoritative. if you were exhausted from that picture, then hyenas were found, although they also worked as teachers, and went with party cards
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      then there were hyenas,

      Correctly! People they are always and everywhere people. I want a lot of women and cars. And it’s one thing to broadcast from the stands, and it’s quite another to go to the letter floor of the GUM for imported junk.
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        you continue to broadcast to your daughter and granddaughter about "many women and cars"
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          Quote: Seeker
          you continue now

          We were introduced to each other, Alexander? It seems that this was not ...
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      That’s because he sits on the couch who doesn’t need anyone, because he doesn’t know anything and doesn’t know how, and even a boor, and watered everything with slop. Yes, before it was hard to fire a stupid drunk
  • AK1972 April 16 2020 13: 07 New
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    Such was the wonderful Soviet upbringing that many today regret so much!
    Modern education, of course, can not be compared. Children are very young ladies and gentlemen. They will put a garbage bin on the teacher’s head, or they’ll swear at her with a three-story one, then the girls will five feet kick one of them, and then they will post it on the social network from a great mind. From the 1st to the 8th grade, my friend Valera and I sat at one desk, so on the way home we could fight and make up three times, this is normal with the boys. I remember the slop bucket, I had to pour it, but it did not cause girlish squeamishness from me. I sawed and chopped firewood with my father, it was a pleasure for me. To bring firewood and peat, to flood stoves, to bring water is a holy duty. And the whole city was a playground for games, so driving home was almost impossible. Of course it flew later. There were problems with the school uniform. I was always the highest in the class and with my thinness in my city it was unrealistic to buy a uniform of the right size, so I went to neighboring Belarus to get the uniform. Pleased with the model sewing machine. My mother is exactly the same, grandmother, only not Singer, but Solingen is still working.
    1. A. Privalov April 16 2020 13: 21 New
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      Pleased with the model sewing machine. My mother is exactly the same, grandmother, only not Singer, but Solingen is still working.

      Apparently, you have forgotten. Solingen produced dangerous razors, knives, scissors.
      1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 14: 06 New
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        Solingen is known for knives, scissors, and today, two hospitals, including City Academic University of Cologne, but I won’t be surprised if sewing machines were made there
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          In Germany, all time around, about 200 firms produced sewing machines. There is even a guide for collectors. But Solingen is not among them.
          1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 21: 08 New
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            Quote: Undecim
            In Germany, all time around, about 200 firms produced sewing machines. There is even a guide for collectors. But Solingen is not among them.

            Quote: AK1972
            I remember exactly the inscription Solingen.

            Maybe not a company - maybe the IP-shnik has produced five cars in his life, one of which got into East Germany, and from there - to the USSR
            1. Undecim April 16 2020 21: 22 New
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              IP-Schnick in Germany did not produce sewing machines. This made no sense.
              If applied to sewing machines, then in Solingen there is a famous sewing machine shop “Nähmaschinen Diederich”. He is almost 100 years old.
              1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 21: 23 New
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                Why wasn’t it? Trial, patent, so on?
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                  There are two ways. The first is to think, try to search for information. The second is to come up with fantastic options that you got a copy of an unknown master from the patent office.
                  1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 22: 01 New
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                    Method.
                    I got nothing laughing Have you been to Solingen often?
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                      No, four times.
                      1. Krasnodar April 16 2020 22: 22 New
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                        I’ve been around two times, and so - the city was very "artisan" - a lot of things were produced there, there were also enough "start-ups" of various artisans.
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                        It is a famous metallurgical center since the 13th century.
                        I am well acquainted with the history of industry there - a colleague was a native and a great lover of the history of his city. Buzzed all ears. But I never spoke about sewing machines.
                        You, apparently, are far from technology. Or am I wrong?
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                        far - except for some medical samples)).
                        So - I understand that the creation of a sewing machine is not the work of one person, but next to Dussel and others. Could design and assemble, could be unique in the city smile
                      4. Undecim April 16 2020 23: 00 New
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                        In Germany, there was never a shortage of manufacturers of sewing machines, there was an excess of them, which ultimately killed German manufacturers.
                        It was only possible to enter the market by inventing something revolutionary that no one was producing. I understand that your relic did not possess any unique qualities.
                      5. Krasnodar April 16 2020 23: 09 New
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                        Yes, not mine, but forum member AK1972)) As for the overabundance of manufacturers - there is an old Jewish joke. A newcomer comes to the place of permanent residence, goes to get acquainted with the rabbi.
                        - What are you going to do here?
                        “I’m a tailor and a shoemaker; I’ll take a closer look and decide.”
                        “It's great that you are a tailor.” We have enough shoe shops, but nobody sews dresses.
                        A week later they are found in the synagogue.
                        - So what did you decide?
                        - I open a shoe shop
                        “So we have five of them!”
                        - Where there is a place for five, will earn a living for the sixth. And if in the Jewish place not a single tailor works, it means that I will not have work hi
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                        Jewish jokes are certainly interesting and instructive. But production is evolving, yet slightly according to other canons.
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                        I am aware - my companion is now a prototype UV lamp rivets in Israel, for example)). A good dinner spoon - we do not know when this instance was released, where it was released, despite the name Solingen and why it was needed at all. There are many versions, but a forum member who is far away, most likely from Deutschland, why come up with the name of the sewing machine? laughing
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                        far, most likely, from Deutschland
                        So he confuses Singer with Solingen, and Exmart with Esmarch.
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