Expedition to the ancestors. The most ancient migrations

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Expedition to the ancestors. The most ancient migrations
That's what they were like - ancient migrants. But, despite their wild appearance, they managed to populate the entire planet. And how did they succeed?


And the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his face the breath of life,
and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:7

Migrants and migrations. Not long ago, while looking through materials on Zen, I came across an article about A. Svirin’s book “Expedition to the Ancestors.” And there its author writes: “Being an illustrator and book layout designer, I sometimes think - what would I consider a great creative success? What kind of book would I like to make?” And he himself answers this question that this is Svirin’s book, that he dreams of making the same one.



By the way, at the very beginning there was a very funny poem about our primitive ancestors, funny, but at the same time quite common sense. And although this book was written, in general, for children, it was interesting to read even for adults. And so I thought, what if we did something similar today, and again, it would be interesting for both children and adults?

This was the first idea, and the second, which came after it, concerned its actual content. So that she would be familiar in some ways, but not in others. It would also allow us to look at the well-known from a different angle, which is always instructive and contributes to the development of thinking. And finally, I managed to find such a topic.

And for a long time it was the case that human society, from ancient times, was viewed as rather static. It is clear that the point was that it was developing, but at the same time the role of ancient migrations was somehow not very clearly highlighted. Meanwhile, all story the human race is nothing more than one big and long journey! This is what the materials of this new cycle will tell you, dear VO readers.


A page from A. Svirin’s book. Foresight of J. Roney the Elder

Let's start with what we know about our ancestors today and what is this knowledge based on?

What we do know is that the remains of the oldest hominids, that is, apes, were found in Ethiopia in the Afar Valley (fragments of Ardipithecus ramidus), whose age is 4,5 million years. However, we are better aware of the later remains of the “southern apes” - australopithecus (Australopithecus afarensis). Their fossilized bones and footprints (3–4 million years old) indicate they had robust (if not complete) bipedalism, arms still adapted to climbing trees, and brains that was three times smaller than ours.

This species most likely gave birth to both the hefty australopithecus Australopithecus boisei*, Australopithecus aethiopicus**, Australopithecus robustus*** with their powerful teeth and plant diet, and representatives of our kind-tribe, i.e. people.

Sensational discoveries in the 1950s showed that all these closely related groups lived not only at the same time, but even in the same places. So J. Roney the Elder was blindsided when he described in his book “The Fight for Fire” people of different types - Ulamrs, “red dwarfs”, Kzams, “Va people” and “blue people”. As it turned out, that’s exactly what it was all about!


Skull of Ardipithecus ramidus from the Afar Valley. Royal Institute of Natural History, Brussels, Belgium


Australopithecus afarensis skull. Cantonal Museum of Geology in Lausanne


Bipedality and encephalization


About 2–3 million years ago, the first people noticeably advanced along the path of evolution: they became completely bipedal, the size of their brain (this is called encephalization) increased, and the structure of the jaw and larynx changed. But a large brain also needs a lot of energy, and therefore high-calorie food.

The problem was complicated by the fact that the size of their body remained almost unchanged, i.e. the stomach decreased in size relative to the brain. This meant that they now needed a new diet that provided more calories, and it turned out that they now began to require... a lot of meat!


Skull of Australopithecus Beuys. Science Museum in Springfield, Massachusetts, USA

New diet and new technologies


Well, the transition to high-calorie and protein-rich animal food also required new tools, as evidenced by the oldest stone tools found in Gona (in Ethiopia). These were sharpened pieces of pebbles that these people used to cut animal carcasses and break their bones, extracting nutritious bone marrow, and with their help they also hunted and protected their prey from predators.

Burnt bones from South Africa clearly indicate that 1,5 million years ago our distant ancestors already knew how to cook their own food, for which they held it over the fire. This pre-processing of raw meat compensated for the reduction in the digestive tract and greatly facilitated its digestion.

When did people start leaving Africa?


All these achievements allowed Homo erectus to finally leave sub-Saharan Africa 1,8 million years ago. And 1 million years ago, Homo heidelbergensis (“Heidelberg Man”) had already migrated to the Middle East, that is, man began his triumphal march across the planet.

And this was just the beginning of the migrations of the human race-tribe!


A lower jaw belonging to Heidelberg Man, found during excavations at Mauer. State Museum of Natural History Stuttgart


"Mauer's Man" with the corpse of a boar. Painted plaster bust. Louis Mascret and Aimé Ruto, 1909–1914 Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences, Brussels. Filmed at the exhibition “Neanderthal. Exhibition" at the Museum of Man in Paris in April 2018.

Because even later, namely about 500 years ago, ancient people reached the north of Europe, as evidenced by fossil finds in Mauer, Steigheim, Bilzingsleben and other places. It is likely that the common ancestor of these human species was Homo habilis (Handy Man) or Homo ergaster (Working Man), best known from a skeleton found at Nariokotome in Kenya.

Moreover, all these finds indicate that about 1,5 million years ago, the volume of the human brain was about 1 cm3, and the stone axes of various shapes that they used were very effective cutting tools.


Skull of a “handy man.” It is believed that he was the ancestor of the “working man”...


The skull of a “working man” from Koobi Fora (Kenya), found in 1973. The estimated age of the find is 1,9 million years, the volume of the skull is approximately 510 cm3

A long way from south to north...


The most interesting thing is that stone processing itself does not contribute to brain development. For example, australopithecines also had stone tools, but their skulls never grew, and they did not spread anywhere from Africa. Meanwhile, a large brain helped people not only better obtain food for themselves, but also improve relationships within their community.

The main paradox of all this was that, as they developed their social structure, they became less dependent on each other and were now able to live in smaller groups. And this allowed them to penetrate where there was little hunting prey, and, having thus overcome the Sahara, move further to the north, into the temperate climate zone.

At the same time, that is, about 500 years ago, the first stage of colonization of the world ended. Many populations of people arose who roamed and exchanged genes, but at the same time the formation of rather isolated regional groups (possibly separate species) such as the Neanderthals occurred.

Second wave


For a long time people have been exploring new territories. But about 100 years ago, the second wave of human settlement of the modern type, or neoanthrope (Homo sapiens sapiens), began.

Interestingly, the oldest skulls of modern humans, about 150 years old, were discovered in the Omo River basin in Ethiopia and in the lower reaches of the Klasies River in South Africa, that is, again, in Africa. It seems that 000 years ago neoanthropes began migrating north from Africa.

But then, after the first stage of migration, a so-called “bottleneck” followed, when population sizes remained miniscule for entire millennia. One of the reasons for this is believed to have been the eruption of Mount Toba in northwestern Sumatra 71 years ago. It was a real global catastrophe, because in India, for example, after this eruption the layer of ash reached three meters thick. Well, on the entire planet this led to centuries-long cooling.

However, a side effect of the decline in human numbers was genetic drift, which contributed to rapid evolutionary changes. Genetic studies, as well as archaeological finds, indicate a second stage of neoanthropic expansion, which began 50 years ago.

Neoanthropes reached Australia 50 years ago by sea; 000 years ago they conquered the western part of Oceania; and 33 years ago they managed to penetrate even into America.

Craftsmanship and trade


The findings indicate the growth of people's skills and their mastery of new skills. A lighter and more efficient weapon, for example, long spears equipped with sharp stone tips. Man begins to produce fabrics, weave from wicker, and began to arrange parking lots more thoughtfully, constructing “warm” dwellings and underground storage rooms.

The volume of barter trade is increasing sharply. Thus, flint or obsidian, which previously did not move more than 80 km from the mining site, now began to be exchanged within a radius of hundreds of kilometers. That is, it was then, in that era far from us, that the real Great Migration of Peoples took place, but absolutely nothing remained of it in human memory.

Mitochondria in the teeth of skulls that have come down to us, and stone tools and ancient works of art - that’s probably all that allows us to judge that time and the ancient migrations of “Homo sapiens.”

However, these are not all the types (or subspecies) of people who met in that distant time from ours, and clearly not all the routes along which they then traveled. But more about that next time...

* Boyce's paranthropus is the most massive species of paranthropus, discovered in 1959 by Mary Leakey in the East African gorges of Olduvai, Koobi Fora, Lokalei and a number of other places.

** The Ethiopian paranthropus is a fossil species of the genus Paranthropus ("massive australopithecus") that lived in East Africa about 2,5 million years ago.

*** A species of fossil great ape discovered in South Africa in 1938 by South African doctor and paleontologist Robert Broome.


To be continued ...
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  1. +7
    27 September 2023 04: 24
    And who was the ancestor of the “most ancient hominids, that is, apes” (c)?
    1. +8
      27 September 2023 04: 48
      Quote: ee2100
      Who was the ancestor of the most ancient hominids?

      This issue is still debatable, something like, who came first - the egg or the chicken. Well, seriously, according to one version, such an ancestor of hominids could have been ouranopithecus - an animal resembling a monkey. And if you dig further and deeper, then some kind of DNA molecule. And no one knows exactly where this very molecule came from. However, there is an assumption that the Almighty created it after he said: Let there be light!. But it is not exactly...
      1. +9
        27 September 2023 05: 33
        We need to open a new section
        "Pearls from Shpakovsky"
        “The most interesting thing is that stone processing itself does not contribute to brain development” (c)
        What should I add here? Open!
        1. 0
          27 September 2023 05: 42
          Quote: ee2100
          What should I add here? Open!

          The fact that Shpakovsky is, um, a miracle?

          Well, yes, it looks like Shnobelevka))
        2. 0
          27 September 2023 07: 58
          Quote: ee2100
          “The most interesting thing is that stone processing itself does not contribute to brain development” (c)
          What should I add here? Open!

          This fact has long been established. I have written here many times that I don’t invent practically anything myself, but copy it from various smart books, so that later, when reviewers from the Russian Academy of Sciences or the Institute of Oriental Studies begin to read the book in which all this is contained, I can give them a link. That's all that matters. Any local ignoramuses do not have comments.
          1. +6
            27 September 2023 08: 26
            It depends what you mean by processing. If we say something of the Olduvai type, when the weapon is actually a cobblestone split in half, then it may not help. In general, chimpanzees are capable of this. But now even the simplest ax - whatever one may say, it requires some decent motor skills and an eye, which seems to imply the development of the brain..
            1. +3
              27 September 2023 08: 43
              Quote: paul3390
              In general, chimpanzees are capable of this.

              You said! And there are also stone carvings... There are all sorts of Aphrodites there... You can’t compare.
              1. +9
                27 September 2023 08: 47
                Well, it’s not for nothing that local blacks claim that chimpanzees are the same people, only hairy. If they don’t talk because they are afraid, they will immediately be put to work. So they're being idiotic...

                wink laughing
            2. Fat
              +5
              27 September 2023 08: 50
              hi Paul. This is true. When using one pebble, monkeys often chip it so that it looks like a “chop.”

              Capuchin running smile
              1. +4
                27 September 2023 09: 18
                It did not chop; according to the classification, it is a so-called chopper. A product obtained by several chips from one edge without processing the rest.
            3. +3
              27 September 2023 08: 59
              But now even the simplest ax - whatever one may say, it requires some decent motor skills and an eye, which seems to imply the development of the brain..

              Yes. And if you compare the products of the beginning and end of the Stone Age, the difference is even more obvious.
              1. +8
                27 September 2023 09: 25
                Yes. All that remains is to understand - why the hell did the ancestors need this? If the chopper copes with basic, banal tasks no worse than, for example, Mousterian guns. Why then waste time and effort?

                Many primitive tribes, the same aborigines in Australia, often used tools of the Olduvai type. Despite all his sapience. The man is a lazy brute - he won’t pound the cobblestones for two hours if heel strikes are enough for everyday tasks..

                But - however, it persistently did this in some parts of the planet. Question - on feijoa?? Why make, say, a Clovis-type tip instead of a Mousterian one, if it’s practically disposable? Is the effect of use the same? What prompted people to do unnecessary work?
                1. Fat
                  +5
                  27 September 2023 09: 50
                  Quote: paul3390
                  But - however, it persistently did this in some parts of the planet. Question - on feijoa??

                  This is almost an allusion to the joke about a black man and bananas on a palm tree...
                  "... - And I don't do anything anyway"
                  You said correctly, “man is a lazy beast,” and he is also terribly curious and inclined towards aesthetics. This is how applied art first appeared, and even later industrial design.
                  It’s all from her, Pavel, from mother’s laziness... Yes laughing
                  1. +4
                    27 September 2023 10: 04
                    This is how applied art first appeared

                    Please note that such delights did not appear in all parts of the planet. A significant part of it managed perfectly well without all this almost until the modern era. Name, say, the regions where there was still rock art of the Aurignacian level in Europe? The question is - why is that so?
                    1. Fat
                      +4
                      27 September 2023 10: 19
                      Quote: paul3390
                      The question is - why is that so?

                      It's simple. Not all tribal groups were creatively lazy.
                      Therefore, those who are simply lazy or extremely hardworking still live in the Stone Age... In unity, so to speak, with nature... or have become extinct. But there are nuances here, of course... smile
                2. +2
                  27 September 2023 10: 10
                  What prompted people to do unnecessary work?

                  You might think things are different now. What forces manufacturers to produce dozens of brands of cars for one consumer group?
                  And so with all goods.
                  1. +7
                    27 September 2023 10: 13
                    What forces manufacturers to produce dozens of brands of cars for one consumer group?

                    Greed and stupidity of consumers.
                    1. +3
                      27 September 2023 10: 25
                      Quote: paul3390
                      Greed and stupidity of consumers.

                      We all work for the benefit of the 80%! 20% is too much fuss!
                      1. +8
                        27 September 2023 11: 10
                        Quote: paul3390
                        Greed and stupidity of consumers

                        The main resource of the modern economy is a fool...©
                      2. +5
                        27 September 2023 11: 25
                        Quote: Luminman
                        The main resource of the modern economy is a fool...©

                        In “Predatory Things of the Century” the Strugatsky brothers said this back in 1964: “Oh, how nice you are among us! Oh, how cheerful and healthy you are! Oh, how optimistic you are, and how smart you are, what a subtle sense of humor you have, and how deftly you solve crossword puzzles!.. You, the main thing, just don’t worry, everything is so good, everything is so great, and science is at your service, and literature, so that you have fun, and You don’t have to think about anything... And you and I will destroy all the harmful hooligans and skeptics (with you, but we won’t destroy them!). What do they really want? They need more than others, or what?..”
                      3. +3
                        27 September 2023 12: 30
                        Quote: kalibr
                        In "Predatory Things of the Century"

                        I adore the Strugatskys, but this thing especially nifkuril. I didn't even read it to the end...
                      4. +4
                        27 September 2023 20: 22
                        I adore the Strugatskys, but I especially enjoyed this piece.

                        Recently I read Vetlitsky’s story (Boris Strugatsky) “The Search for Purpose, or the Twenty-Seventh Theorem of Ethics.”
                        It was written some time ago, but it turned out to be about today and in such a way that for a couple of days I was twisted with disgust for life.
                      5. -1
                        27 September 2023 20: 33
                        Quote: depressant
                        I read Vetlitsky's story

                        Vititsky. Happy boy, or the 27th theorem of ethics.

                        Cool item, darling. Basker was still there, yes what

                        Fear. Only fear. And nothing but fear
                3. +6
                  27 September 2023 15: 11
                  All that remains is to understand - why the hell did the ancestors need this? If the chopper copes with basic, banal tasks no worse than, for example, Mousterian guns. Why then waste time and effort?


                  Imitation.
                  Powerful instinct to imitate.
                  This is something without which a hominid could not survive in its social pack and in difficult environmental conditions, in the competitive environment of many packs with a limited food supply. Imitation turned out to be firmly embedded in the nature of the survivors, which is why they survived.
                  One of the flock accidentally got a successful example of a weapon and brought its own benefit. We saw it. Some passed by, but someone, endowed with a stronger instinct of imitation, reproduced it, used it, and it went further...
                  For example, a monkey washes a scarf stolen from a tourist in a stream. You say, why the hell does she need this? No need. It’s just that the monkey saw local women doing laundry in the same stream, it remembered, and instinct kicked in. Hence the learning ability of some and the poor learning ability of others.
                  Look at the paintings of great artists. They are an imitation of life. Adjusted for the cognitive characteristics of each master.
                  1. -2
                    27 September 2023 20: 45
                    Quote: depressant
                    Look at the paintings of great artists. They are an imitation of life. Adjusted for the cognitive characteristics of each master

                    Well, with this approach I can easily explain to you... anything, practically.
                4. +1
                  4 October 2023 23: 42
                  Quote: paul3390
                  But - however, it persistently did this in some parts of the planet. Question - on feijoa?? Why make, say, a Clovis-type tip instead of a Mousterian one, if it’s practically disposable? Is the effect of use the same? What prompted people to do unnecessary work?


                  There is a simple, straightforward answer. However, it is impossible to prove without a time machine.

                  Let’s say a Neanderthal mammoth crushed its leg during a hunt. His fellow tribesmen brought him to the cave, treated him, fed him, but he could not walk. Women cook, raise children, clean, men hunt. Things to do? Yes, so that they don’t throw you leftovers, but respect, appreciate and love women. A disabled person takes stones in his hands and sculpts unusual tips that no one else has (high labor intensity), turning into a valuable member of society.
            4. +3
              27 September 2023 10: 15
              no matter how you look at it, it requires some decent motor skills and an eye, which seems to imply brain development.

              The development of the brain occurred due to a mutation in DNA. (There is something related to omega 3 or omega 6 acids in the brain.)
              EMNIP was some kind of mutation in the DNA that led to the fact that the brain began to improve.
              First there was a mutation.
              1. +3
                27 September 2023 10: 18
                First there was a mutation.

                Does the mutation also develop the brains of children at school? Or gross and fine motor skills with training?
                1. Fat
                  +5
                  27 September 2023 10: 52
                  Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                  Or gross and fine motor skills with training?

                  hi Ivan. Noticed. Young mako sharks acquire hunting skills and food preferences by being trained in schools...
                  Even in such primitive fish as sharks, not everything in behavior is determined by instinct.
                  A child who grew up outside human society is not able to fully integrate into it.
          2. +2
            27 September 2023 08: 46
            This fact has long been established.

            Well, probably not a fact - but a theory of certain scientists or a certain scientific school. But it turns out that any development of technology, including stone processing, has no impact on the development of the human brain.
            I've written here many times that I practically don't invent anything myself.

            Is this something to be proud of?
            1. +4
              27 September 2023 09: 28
              Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
              Is this something to be proud of?

              Of course it's worth it! There are many people who can come up with something, but cannot convey it to others, because they express themselves either too abstrusely or tongue-tied. You must be able to do so in order to convey their smart thoughts to others. That is, write clearly so that it is easy to read and interesting. The baker does not make sugar, does not make flour, salt, does not lay eggs. He bakes bread. And that's his job. So it is here. Well, some individual cases of my inventions are also well known. “Who in the USSR did not make Shpakovsky’s vibration drive?” Quote from the magazine "Popular Mechanics".
              1. +6
                27 September 2023 10: 01
                Of course it's worth it! There are many people who can come up with something, but cannot convey it to others, because they express themselves either too abstrusely or tongue-tied. You must be able to do so in order to convey their smart thoughts to others. That is, write clearly so that it is easy to read and interesting.

                Well, in this, of course, few can compare with you. (without irony).
                The question is different - by reprinting other people's works, you inevitably reprint other people's mistakes. All sciences develop and what was considered an indisputable fact recently can now be considered a mistake. And, in order to understand this, you need to be constantly on the topic, and not periodically reading and reprinting other people’s works, moreover, often of opposing scientific schools and scientists. Judging by the fact that “pearls from Shpakovsky” periodically appear, you are not succeeding. You can, of course, blame everything on
                That's all that matters. Any local ignoramuses do not have comments.
                but "facts are facts." That's why the question was
                Is this something to be proud of?
                1. +5
                  27 September 2023 10: 31
                  Quote: Ivan Ivanych Ivanov
                  All sciences develop and what was considered an indisputable fact recently can now be considered a mistake.

                  Wonderful what you said! But this applies to ANY. EVEN THE MOST SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES PUBLISHED IN SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS. Because it is impossible to embrace everything. Hence the concept of review and reference. Who refers to whom and who reviews and how. Here, too, we all see that, in addition to stupid teasing, a very interesting commentary by the DECEMBER appeared here, which has already been noted and will be subjected to careful consideration, and its sources will be studied. All this will lead to the final adjustment of this material. This also happens in scientific and peer-reviewed articles. Based on the results of reviews and comments, the authors revise them.
          3. +2
            27 September 2023 11: 17
            If you are such a popularizer of historical science, write for us, local ignoramuses, an article about the diversity of species or how DNA appeared. Or maybe about aerobic and anaerobic respiration and how it appeared. Also available as about monkeys, which you consider your ancestors.
            1. 0
              27 September 2023 11: 29
              Quote: ee2100
              an article about the diversity of species or how DNA appeared. Or maybe about aerobic and anaerobic respiration and how it appeared.

              The capabilities of each author are limited, Alexander. The same Perelman did not popularize history... “How DNA appeared” has nothing to do with the popularization of historical science.
          4. -1
            27 September 2023 21: 35
            Quote: kalibr
            I don’t invent anything myself, but copy it from various smart books

            (C)
        3. +4
          27 September 2023 09: 13
          Quote: ee2100
          “The most interesting thing is that stone processing itself does not contribute to brain development” (c)
          Well, yes. A monkey became a man when he picked up a stick and forced another monkey to work. The big brain was used for intrigue in the herd of primitive hominids.
          1. +1
            27 September 2023 09: 29
            Quote: bk0010
            The big brain was used for intrigue in the herd of primitive hominids.

            Here was my material "We are all from the same ship." Look...
          2. +5
            27 September 2023 09: 48
            Big brain used for intrigue

            The same Kozyrev had a theory that a person did not need the brain for making tools, it was a side effect. Initially, it is a biological computer for predicting the future and modeling it. As well as far vision, telepathy, etc., etc. Abilities that were then lost in the process of evolution. But judging by humanity’s ineradicable craving for all sorts of paranormal things, it’s not completely true.
            1. +3
              27 September 2023 10: 53
              Quote: paul3390
              not completely.

              That's right!
            2. +3
              27 September 2023 17: 57
              Golding does similar things in Descendants.
    2. -5
      27 September 2023 05: 18
      Quote: ee2100
      And who was the ancestor of the “most ancient hominids, that is, apes” (c)?

      Damn, it came to hand... is it really you? belay
    3. +5
      27 September 2023 06: 32
      Quote: ee2100
      And who was the ancestor of the “most ancient hominids, that is, apes” (c)?

      What, you don’t know? Of course, the ancient ukp! Even then he was using a digging stick to try to reach the place where the Black Sea is now.
      1. +4
        27 September 2023 06: 53
        At first it was empty. And everything was empty and everything was empty. There was only God and...

        ...The land of the Ukrainians was luxurious and abundant, and all sorts of animals, birds, perhaps even Finno-Tatar Muscovites flocked there...

        ...Not a day passed without these assorted creatures calling on each other: “Idemo (idemo) to the Ukrainians,” - so over time the country of the Ukrainians began to be called Eden...

        And so forth ...
        Neolurk ©

        In a word, first the Ukrainian appeared, then the monkey came from it, and only then the man appeared from it...
        1. +5
          27 September 2023 08: 10
          Quote: Luminman
          In a word, first the Ukrainian appeared, then the monkey came from it, and only then the man appeared from it...

          A son comes to his father.
          - Tato, our teacher at school told us that humans descended from monkeys. Is it true?
          - Of course, son. For example, Georgians descended from the monkey Shimpanidze. Armenians descended from the Makakian monkey. Jews descended from the monkey Aron Gutan. Russians descended from the monkey Gavrilla.
          - Tato, and we, Ukrainians, from which monkey did we come?
          - And we, son, are a very ancient people, and we did not descend from any monkey. All the monkeys came from us.
          1. +3
            27 September 2023 08: 20
            Quote: Nagan
            All the monkeys came from us.

            This is exactly what I am trying to convey with my comments... wink wink
          2. +5
            27 September 2023 09: 15
            Nagan, I can add to the series of anecdotes on this topic. Mother explains to daughter. When God created man... . But the daughter is interrupted by her mother. Mom, did God create man? Dad says we came from monkeys! He is talking about his relatives daughter.
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    1. +3
      27 September 2023 07: 54
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      He was the very first hominid!

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    2. +4
      27 September 2023 08: 22
      Quote: Dutchman Michel

      He was the very first hominid! wink
      In principle, it is a generally accepted scientific fact that humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) carry the genes of Neanderthals (Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis), obtained through interracial crossing. Obviously, not only everyone carries them, but some of these genes will have more than all others. Or maybe even more ancient genes are showing up.
      1. mz
        +5
        27 September 2023 09: 17
        Valuev, apart from fairly developed brow ridges, has a completely “sapient” skull. And the brow ridges of the Neanderthal formed a continuous ridge, but in this case there is none (a continuous ridge).
        1. +1
          27 September 2023 10: 15
          In this case everything is simpler
          Acromegaly (from the Greek ἄκρος - limb and the Greek μέγας - large) is a disease associated with dysfunction of the anterior pituitary gland (adenohypophysis); accompanied by enlargement (expansion and thickening) of the hands, feet, skull, especially its facial part, etc.

          Acromegaly usually occurs after the body's growth has completed; develops gradually and lasts for many years. Caused by the production of excessive amounts of growth hormone.

          A similar disruption of the pituitary gland at an early age causes gigantism (if untreated, gigantism may eventually combine with acromegaly).
          1. +4
            27 September 2023 15: 24
            One day a journalist asked Valuev a question. I thought that now he would open his mouth and an inarticulate grinding sound would be heard.
            Valuev’s pleasant voice and extremely intelligible, intelligent speech were amazing. This is not Klitschko.
  3. +8
    27 September 2023 06: 37
    1,5 million years ago, our distant ancestors already knew how to cook their own food, for which they held it over the fire.
    Yes, okay, barbecue!? laughing
    1. Fat
      +5
      27 September 2023 08: 05
      Quote: parusnik
      1,5 million years ago, our distant ancestors already knew how to cook their own food, for which they held it over the fire.
      Yes, okay, barbecue!? laughing

      Nope! Balyk! Our ancestors first learned to smoke and grill over coals - this is already “high technology”, albeit the most ancient Yes laughing
      Greetings, Alexey. Good morning, colleagues.
    2. +3
      27 September 2023 09: 08
      shashlik!

      Chicken Kiev, no less... wink Well - since distant ancestors... laughing
    3. 0
      5 November 2023 17: 49
      1,5 million years ago, our distant ancestors already knew how to cook their own food, for which they held it over the fire.

      Quite a controversial date. Among scientists there is no agreement on the time of taming fire. The charring of the bones could have occurred during a natural fire. If you divide this date into two, then for sure the fire has already been used. And earlier - whether - yes, or - no, it is not clear.
  4. +8
    27 September 2023 07: 36
    the first people noticeably advanced along the path of evolution: they became completely bipedal, the size of their brain (this is called encephalization) increased, the structure of the jaw and larynx changed

    Bipedalism is probably not a determining factor in human evolution; the Tyrannosaurus Rex and the ostrich are “obligate bipedals” (on a permanent basis), but they have not shown intelligence for millions of years. wink
    1. +4
      27 September 2023 07: 55
      Quote: Lynx2000
      Bipedality is probably not a determining factor in human evolution

      The hominid has two limbs, and even with five flexible and dexterous fingers, which are easily adapted for any work. Why is this not a factor for evolution?
      1. +6
        27 September 2023 08: 34
        At the same time, the hominid becomes less stable when running, and generally runs slower. What's in the savannah is a sure way to someone's stomach. Plus an open, unprotected belly, a head sticking out of the grass, and so on and so forth. In addition, the hand itself will not help you at all - well, imagine yourself one on one with a leopard, will you feel a lot better from a brick clutched in your hand? Wow! From a leopard, only a spear will help, and this is a completely different level of development. Before it, both arms and bipedality are not only useless, but even extremely harmful for survival. How then did all this come about?
        1. +3
          27 September 2023 08: 51
          Quote: paul3390
          At the same time, the hominid becomes less stable when running

          At that stage, when a monkey, which has already stood on two limbs and has at least some rudiments of intelligence, running quickly from/after animals is no longer entirely relevant. Here the mind is already beginning to work - a flock, cunning and the use of improvised means such as sticks or stones.

          Quote: paul3390
          From a leopard, only a spear will help, and this is a completely different level of development. Before that, both arms and bipedalism are not only useless, but even extremely harmful for survival

          I saw videos on YouTube of how a flock of chimpanzees fought off a leopard with sticks, and a flock of capuchins in the same flock threw stones, it seems, at a South American jaguar. Intelligence, plus bipedalism with developed limbs, is strength...
          1. +3
            27 September 2023 09: 05
            Running quickly from a leopard is extremely relevant even for a modern person, if he is at least without a spear in the savannah... The leopard is a vile beast - it does not have the slightest reverence for the level of development..

            They didn’t so much fight back as scare them away - it’s just that the leopard apparently wasn’t very hungry, so he decided not to get involved with the brawlers.. If he wanted to eat for real, they wouldn’t have stopped him with a stick. In addition, these are isolated cases, over millions of years these species have not led to either upright walking or tools. This means that they are generally useless...
            1. +5
              27 September 2023 09: 12
              Quote: paul3390
              Running quickly from a leopard is extremely important even for a modern person, if he is at least without a spear in the savannah

              Well, actually, a person cannot run away from a leopard, no matter how fast he runs. In addition, you can go to lunch with a leopard or crocodile even if you have a gun, if the latter crawl towards it unnoticed and quietly. In this case, neither reason, nor its absence, nor even a gun will save...
              1. 0
                27 September 2023 09: 32
                Quote: Luminman
                In this case, neither reason, nor its absence, nor even a gun will save...

                There is simply a category of controversial people. You get your hair cut, and they give you a shave. And one more... can ask more questions than a hundred wise men can answer.
                1. +6
                  27 September 2023 10: 01
                  And there is also a category of people who stupidly scramble through textbooks. Despite the obvious doubts in the designs set out in them. If you lived in the Middle Ages, you would foam at the mouth and defend the version of the Earth at the center of the Universe. Well, isn’t that what was written by respected people in wise books? We would quote the same extremely authoritative Aristotle.
                  1. +2
                    27 September 2023 10: 33
                    Quote: paul3390
                    We would quote the same extremely authoritative Aristotle.

                    It may very well be.
                  2. +2
                    27 September 2023 10: 34
                    Quote: paul3390
                    to obvious doubts about the constructions set out in them

                    Yours, Pavel?
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        2. +3
          27 September 2023 09: 19
          Quote: paul3390
          At the same time, the hominid becomes less stable when running, and generally runs slower.
          People took it not with speed, but with tirelessness.
          Quote: paul3390
          Plus an open, unprotected belly, a head sticking out of the grass, and so on and so forth.
          A head sticking out of the grass gives visibility and time to react. And also the ability to stand in the water.
          Quote: paul3390
          In addition, the hand itself will not help you at all - well, imagine yourself one on one with a leopard, will you feel a lot better from a brick clutched in your hand?
          Not one on one, but as part of a tribe. It will make you feel a lot better, especially considering the lack of fighting fangs.
          Quote: paul3390
          Only a spear will help against a leopard, and this is a completely different level of development
          They will beat you with clubs.
          1. +2
            27 September 2023 09: 55
            Tirelessness will not help you at all when meeting a lion. Only speed.

            I don’t think that you will notice a leopard in the tall grass before he notices you...

            A reasonable question arises - where did the fangs go? If there was no hand with a cobblestone yet? Let's say a baboon has impressive tusks, and he gets by with them very well...

            They won't thresh it. With a stick, especially if the blow is not well-placed, it is almost impossible to inflict a serious blow on the predator. To check, take, say, a picket fence and try to fight off, for example, a seriously angry Alabai or a Caucasian Shepherd. But they are definitely an opponent thinner than a leopard, or even more so a lion... And Australopithecus is certainly less adapted to delivering strong blows with objects than you. And the grip is different, and the shoulder girdle is different.
            1. 0
              27 September 2023 21: 34
              Quote: paul3390
              Tirelessness will not help you at all when meeting a lion. Only speed.
              1) It will help. You notice and start to get away from him. Cats can't run for long. 2) A meeting with a lion will not happen one on one, a pride of lions and a tribe will meet. And it’s not at all a fact that the tribe needs to flee. Here, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVF7Ol_XnVA, watch from 4:35.
              Quote: paul3390
              I don’t think that you will notice a leopard in the tall grass before he notices you...
              And in vain. In the forest he has plenty of chances, but in the savannah - no.
              Quote: paul3390
              A reasonable question arises - where did the fangs go?
              They haven't grown up. The ancestors ate grass, meat was added later.
              Quote: paul3390
              With a stick, especially if the blow is not well-placed, it is almost impossible to inflict a serious blow on the predator.
              The ancient Egyptians and Indians did not know about this, and therefore bloody wars were fought with clubs. Tomahawks are hatchets of Europeans; they appeared much later.
              Quote: paul3390
              To check, take, say, a picket fence and try to fight off, for example, a seriously angry Alabai or a Caucasian Shepherd.
              Once again - no one will fight one on one, there will be a tribe against a pack.
        3. +7
          27 September 2023 10: 52
          I feel that as a result of the discussion, it will be possible to write a monograph on the topic “Specifics of hunting a leopard with a brick” laughing
          1. +4
            27 September 2023 17: 19
            "Specifics of hunting a leopard with a brick" laughing[/ Quote]
            1. +3
              27 September 2023 18: 06
              Quote from 3x3zsave (Anton):
              I feel that as a result of the discussion, it will be possible to write a monograph on the topic “Specifics of hunting a leopard with a brick

              Greetings. Anton! Your opinion as a builder who deals with bricks is of course weighty, but an equally interesting monograph on the topic “Specifics of hunting a leopard with bricks” can be written by representatives of other professions. For example, "Kote pane Kokhanka" and "Master of the trilobite" smile
          2. +3
            27 September 2023 18: 00
            Don't offend me, Bagheera. More valuable to yourself. Much.
            1. +5
              27 September 2023 20: 04
              Greetings, Seryozha!
              Do you mean the Serbian citizen sniper Daniela Lazović, who has the call sign “Baghira”? So she cannot be classified as a criminal - she fought in the Donbass on our side, and she has long since settled her previous criminal cases related to drugs. After all, a former Serbian abbess.
              1. +3
                27 September 2023 20: 43
                Good evening Dmitry!

                No, Kipling's character. However, in the original source he was a male.
        4. +1
          27 September 2023 11: 28
          Would you feel a lot better if you held a brick in your hand?
          It might even make you feel better if you throw this brick accurately. Well, here you still need skill, of course. And for him - a developed brain. They develop mutually, but the primary effect of an instinctive/random throw of a stone could give rise to development.
        5. +5
          27 September 2023 15: 33
          ...and arms and bipedalism are not only useless, but even extremely harmful for survival. How then did all this come about?

          I have come across the opinion that bipedality appeared due to a predominantly fish diet during a certain period of historical time. They simply caught fish in shallow waters. With your hands or something like a spear. You can't fish from the shore. I had to wade into the water up to my waist and stand for a long time, looking for prey.
      2. +4
        27 September 2023 09: 26
        Quote: Luminman

        The hominid has two limbs, and even with five flexible and dexterous fingers, which are easily adapted for any work. Why is this not a factor for evolution?

        Initially, the upright hominid, despite still having five pairs of flexible fingers (the thumbs on the palms were not yet so mobile), was, to put it simply, a man-of-arms (so the biology teacher told us). wink
        Velociraptor, according to paleontologists, was also a smart and quick-witted animal, and if it lived now, it could open bottles and doors (the opinion is not from the film). But during the period of existence of the species, if I am not mistaken, more than the history of mankind, it did not create a civilization.
        Even Ford called the tuning version of the pickup truck that way... Yes
        1. +4
          27 September 2023 14: 33
          Ford called the tuning version of the pickup truck this way
          Ford just has a raptor-bird of prey. Velociraptor is a project of the Hennessey tuning studio.
          1. -1
            28 September 2023 01: 09
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Ford just has a raptor-bird of prey. Velociraptor is a project of the Hennessey tuning studio.

            We know, we don’t slurp cabbage soup with bast shoes. wink We heard about the F-22 Raptor and their nesting in Alaska (we live nearby) from their first arrival there.
            The Velociraptor from John Hennessy, based on the Ford Ranger pickup truck (aka Everest), was interesting in the sense that from a boring workhorse (maximum, more or less Ford WildTrack equipment) you can make an interesting car, on which you can throw mud, in a stream in a convoy do not trudge (as in the base).
            In our area of ​​Raptors (Ford F-150), various cars from Arctic Trucks (AT33, AT35 on average), you inevitably begin to understand... birds of prey and dinosaurs. Yes
      3. +4
        27 September 2023 11: 39
        Quote: Luminman
        two limbs, and even with five flexible and dexterous fingers, which are easily adapted for any work

        Now imagine what would happen if a person had four limbs, and even with flexible and dexterous fingers! Labor productivity would immediately double. A person could work not only with his hands, but also with his feet! wink
  5. +7
    27 September 2023 08: 45
    What we do know is that the remains of the oldest hominids, that is, apes, were found in Ethiopia in the Afar Valley (fragments of Ardipithecus ramidus), whose age is 4,5 million years.

    The oldest hominin to date is Sahelanthropus tchadensis, whose remains were found in Chad in 2002 (Toros-Menalla site). The age of the remains is estimated at 7,2 - 6,8 million years.



    This is what, according to scientists, one of the possible ancestors of modern humans looked like - Sahelanthropus tchadensis.
    1. +10
      27 September 2023 09: 01
      the oldest stone tools found in Gona (in Ethiopia).

      The oldest stone tools known to date were found in Kenya (Lomekwi 3 site). Their age is 3,3 million years.



      In general, Vyacheslav Olegovich, your dating in the article is very bad. Yes, and with facts too.

      Sensational discoveries in the 1950s showed that all these closely related groups lived not only at the same time, but even in the same places.

      Well, if all of Africa is considered “the same place,” then yes. But after the 1950s there were many more sensational discoveries. And today this “one place looks like this.



      The topic you have conceived is very interesting, but very complex, requiring the study of a very large amount of information, moreover, in highly specialized publications. So far it hasn't worked out very well. I hope things will get better.
      1. +2
        27 September 2023 09: 36
        Quote: Dekabrist
        requiring the processing of a very large amount of information, moreover, in highly specialized publications.

        You are absolutely right! But you can’t cover everything in a short enough article. In addition, there is always hope that among the erudites with VO there will be those who will make an interesting and high-quality addition. Like you, for example.
      2. 0
        27 September 2023 09: 37
        Quote: Dekabrist
        You are really bad with the dates in the article. Yes, and with facts too.

        It's not me who's bad. Ha ha!
        1. +6
          27 September 2023 09: 52
          It's not me who's bad. Ha ha!

          I didn’t mean you specifically, but the sources you used. Surprisingly, paleoanthropology is quite dynamic and information is constantly updated.
          For example, you write
          All these achievements allowed Homo erectus to finally leave sub-Saharan Africa 1,8 million years ago. And 1 million years ago, Homo heidelbergensis (“Heidelberg Man”) had already migrated to the Middle East, that is, man began his triumphal march across the planet.

          The most current theory today is that migration from Africa began more than 2 million years ago. And the first “migrants” were not Homo erectus/Homo ergaster, but australopithecines.
          1. +4
            27 September 2023 10: 37
            Quote: Dekabrist
            (Victor

            I would like to thank you, Victor, for your very nice comments. I will definitely check the source database again.
    2. 0
      5 November 2023 17: 57
      The oldest hominin

      So those are hominins. There are hominoids, hominids and hominins. And this is far from the same thing.
  6. mz
    +5
    27 September 2023 09: 25
    The problem was complicated by the fact that the size of their body remained almost unchanged, i.e. the stomach decreased in size relative to the brain. This meant that they now needed a new diet that provided more calories, and it turned out that they now began to require... a lot of meat!
    Anthropologist Drobyshevsky S.V. in his video lectures he says that first the transition of human ancestors to meat food took place (occupying the free niche of daytime predators in the savanna), which abolished the need for a large belly and huge jaws (which are required when feeding on vegetation), and then the development of the brain began, i.e. To. to hunt you need to be smarter than the game (making tools also played a role). And the reduction of the jaws and teeth allowed the brain to grow without increasing the overall mass of the head.
    1. +2
      27 September 2023 13: 48
      Anthropologist Drobyshevsky S.V.

      In modern paleoanthropology, no one calls him Drobyshevsky S.V.
      1. mz
        +3
        27 September 2023 17: 26
        Quote: Dekabrist
        In modern paleoanthropology, S. V. Drobyshevsky, no one calls him anything

        I understand that you are a major scientist in modern anthropology? Even if you really are a paleoanthropologist (I highly doubt it), the meaning of your stupid comment is unclear: is the information in my comment incorrect or what?
        Drobyshevsky never called himself a scientist, he is a teacher at Moscow State University, and in order to have knowledge in the field of anthropology (as in any other science), it is not at all necessary to be a research scientist, it is enough to study information from these scientists.
        1. 0
          27 September 2023 17: 33
          I don't understand the meaning of your stupid comment

          If you are not able to understand the simplest comment, then what kind of paleoanthropology can we talk about? All the best, study Drobyshevsky.
  7. +2
    27 September 2023 10: 13
    For some reason, they bypassed the most famous popular science resource on the topic of human origins.
    https://antropogenez.ru
    in the editorial office of which - editor Sokolov - several scientists, among whom Drobyshevsky can be distinguished.
    Was anyone interested in hominids? Here they are
    https://antropogenez.ru/catalog-hominids/
    1. +4
      27 September 2023 11: 07
      Quote from solar
      Was anyone interested in hominids? Here they are
      https://antropogenez.ru/catalog-hominids/

      Not a bad resource, I go there often, but there are no serious science-based articles about evolution, but for amateurs like me, it’s quite a good read. For a more serious study of the topic, I can recommend the magazine Nature, but it is in English and some highly specialized scientific terms are not entirely clear. At least for me...
      1. +1
        27 September 2023 20: 15
        If a person is not a fairly narrow specialist in this matter, then in Nature he may only be interested in the preface; announcements of some materials are popular there. Anthropogenesis is precisely a popular resource; for the vast majority, for whom the nuances of scientific discussions will still be inaccessible, this is the lot of narrow specialists.
    2. +2
      27 September 2023 13: 40
      For some reason, they bypassed the most famous popular science resource on the topic of human origins.
      https://antropogenez.ru

      Where is the most famous? Among whom? The film magazine “I Want to Know Everything” is no less famous. But in terms of the level of information, it’s no higher.
      1. +1
        27 September 2023 20: 36
        Where is the most famous? Among whom?

        Among other popular science resources. 99 percent of the population does not read journals from the Elsevier or Springer list, and the remaining percent reads strictly in their narrow field. Therefore, from the average person you can hear such nonsense on scientific issues that your ears will turn into tubes.
  8. +2
    27 September 2023 14: 51
    Quote: ee2100
    What should I add here? Open!

    Why be jealous?
  9. +2
    27 September 2023 14: 52
    Quote from solar
    in the editorial office of which - editor Sokolov - several scientists, among whom Drobyshevsky can be distinguished.

    Is this Drobyshevsky a scientist? This is the one who said that the Mongoloids originated from the Chinese - a corrupt rattle is not a scientist.
    1. 0
      27 September 2023 20: 29
      He also makes money from his popularity. Write a signal to the relevant authorities about him, what did you think - “Mongoloids originated from the Chinese.” This is the place in Kolyma.
      1. -4
        27 September 2023 20: 40
        Quote from solar
        "Mongoloids descended from the Chinese." This is the place in Kolyma

        You are inarticulate. Which one of those mentioned belongs there? request laughing
        1. 0
          5 November 2023 18: 08
          Which one of those mentioned belongs there?

          Everyone. Sit here and click on the keyboard, instead of.....
    2. 0
      5 November 2023 18: 04
      stated that the Mongoloids originated from the Chinese

      What a scoundrel! Everyone has known for a long time. that all peoples descended from the ancient Rus/Ukrs/Aryans/Jews (cross out what is unnecessary)!
  10. +2
    27 September 2023 15: 51
    What we do know is that the remains of the oldest hominids, that is, apes, were found in Ethiopia in the Afar Valley (fragments of Ardipithecus ramidus), whose age is 4,5 million years. However, we are better aware of the later remains of the “southern apes” - australopithecus (Australopithecus afarensis). Their fossilized bones and footprints (3–4 million years old) indicate they had robust (if not complete) bipedalism, arms still adapted to climbing trees, and brains that was three times smaller than ours.


    Also known are the upright primates Danuvius guggenmosi, which inhabited Europe more than 11 million years ago. According to various sources, 25 - 5 million years ago. A more suitable time period for evolution. No evolutionary explosions.


    In fact, the hypothesis of man's exit from Africa does not stand up to criticism. There are a lot of facts against this.
    1. Wide variety of species. It would seem to speak in favor of the origin of man in Africa. Evidence suggests that in areas with high concentrations of people, the diversity of wild animal species decreases sharply.
    2. Climate. The tropical climate stimulates the development of monkeys, not humans. In tropical conditions there is no need to go down to the ground for food, risking being eaten by a predator. There is also no need to take shelter from the frost, in caves or light a fire.

    Most likely, upright hominids from Eurasia migrated to the tropics, under the influence of climatic conditions and gradually turned monkeys into people. Then the strange African finds are quite understandable.
    1. Fat
      +3
      27 September 2023 16: 36
      hi Greetings
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      In fact, the hypothesis of man's exit from Africa does not stand up to criticism.

      Then let's "dig" deeper, closer to the Cretaceous period... About 80 million years ago. There was a continent with the code name Laurasia (present-day Europe). At that distant time, the plancental order had already emerged from mammals; it consisted of two suborders: Laurasiatherium and Archonoglyra. Time passed, and so 55-60 million years ago the group of Archontoglira divided into two subgroups of Glira and Euarchon. Rodents (including rats and hares) originated from glirs, among others. smile), and from euarchons, including primates (lemurs, monkeys, people). And the suborder Laurasiater (eventually) gave us hedgehogs, tigers, lions, bears, deer and pigs, of course.
      Summary: Humans, rats and pigs are distant relatives, albeit very distant ones. Yes
      Sources used in compiling this review:
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      PS Colleagues, this “review” is only part of a joke. Almost all advanced anthropology is done at Stanford, MIT, Harvard...
      1. +4
        27 September 2023 19: 02
        About 80 million years ago. There was a continent with the code name Laurasia (present-day Europe)

        Maybe it’s not today’s Europe, but Eurasia? smile
        There are two points of view on this matter. One - the supercontinent Laurasia arose in the late Mesozoic as a fragment of Pangea. The second is that the continents that formed Mesozoic Laurasia formed a single supercontinent much earlier: from the collapse of Rodinia (about 1 billion years ago) to inclusion in Pannotia (about 0,75 billion years ago). This supercontinent is called proto-Laurasia to avoid confusion with Mesozoic Laurasia. In any case, Laurasia is not present-day Europe. The scale is not the same laughing About 60 million years ago. Laurasia was divided into continents, which received the names Laurentia (one North America, without South America) and Eurasia. Later, the Arabian Peninsula and Hindustan joined Eurasia.
        1. Fat
          +2
          27 September 2023 19: 32
          hi Greetings, Dmitry. Well, that’s clarified and good Yes Well, in general, in the Paleocene, the beginning of the Cenozoic, the continents had not yet diverged, maintaining connections, and Hindustan had not yet “moored”. It’s bad that I couldn’t find a Paleocene picture request
          1. +4
            27 September 2023 19: 55
            It’s bad that I couldn’t find a Paleocene picture




            Is this suitable?
            1. Fat
              +3
              27 September 2023 20: 23
              hi Greetings, Victor. No, not really, unfortunately. I came across it 95 million years ago, very visual... But optimally - 65-55 million.
              Because this is the 2nd “great extinction”, presumably as a result of the fall of a very large meteorite... The boundary of the Cretaceous and Cenozoic periods is clearly imprinted in geological rocks in different parts of the planet. This is the so-called light-colored iridium band (more precisely, with a high iridium content) and associated discontinuities in fossil flora and fauna...
              1. +1
                27 September 2023 20: 44
                optimal - 65-55 million




                There is one. 66 million years ago.
                1. Fat
                  0
                  27 September 2023 21: 48
                  Yeah! From these “reconstructions” you can roughly imagine how primates and apes began to spread across the continents... In South America there are five families of monkeys, all endemic and, of course, their ancestors did not get there by boat, but like everyone else - by foot... at 65 million years earlier than humans it turns out.
              2. Fat
                +1
                27 September 2023 20: 54
                This “reconstruction map” seems to fit.
            2. +1
              29 September 2023 23: 25
              The eccentrics who drew these maps were guided solely by what they saw on the globe today. In reality, everything is much more complicated. Between Hindustan, China and Australia there is a submerged plate, from which Papua New Guinea remains. The same goes for New Zealand and Caledonia. Actually, this is also a single slab, today it is submerged. In fact, We know very little about the past.
      2. +2
        28 September 2023 00: 12
        Most likely, you can dive even deeper, to amphibians. Some climbed trees to escape predators, while others hid in burrows and caves, periodically running out to eat and hunt. However, most likely only Grandfather Frost could persuade him to make a fire and make clothes. And Grandma Winter forced them to run after prey due to the lack of bananas in winter. Otherwise all monkeys would be people or vice versa.
    2. +4
      27 September 2023 16: 47
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      Climate. The tropical climate stimulates the development of monkeys, not humans. In tropical conditions there is no need to go down to the ground for food, risking being eaten by a predator. There is also no need to take shelter from the frost, in caves or light a fire.

      You are poorly informed. Paleoclimatology says that the climate was different then, and the landscape was of the savanna type.
      1. +5
        27 September 2023 19: 06
        Simple question:
        Why did the human ancestor (according to the official version, invented in England in the 2nd half of the 19th century) first shed his hair, and then take the skin off the animal and put it on himself?

        Why, over millions of years of evolution, has man not adapted to the external environment? For man it is often aggressive: cold, heat. To survive, you need at least a house or a shed, why haven’t people adapted to live on the street, like wild animals live?

        Why are black-white hybrids often infertile?
        Why is man, who has evolved on the planet for millions of years, the only creature on Earth who can break limbs simply by tripping?

        The answer to the question “where did man come from” had to be invented in the 19th century (from a monkey). laughing
        1. +2
          27 September 2023 19: 37
          Why are black-white hybrids often infertile?

          And hybrids of white Europeans and Australian aborigines are sterile in 99% of cases. And white children with one brown-eyed parent and the other blue-eyed have an increased risk of infertility. Why?
          1. 0
            5 November 2023 18: 23
            And hybrids of white Europeans and Australian aborigines are sterile in 99% of cases.

            Can you share a link (not from the yellow press)? And then I once read on one respected resource something similar about the children of the Bantu and Pygmies - it turned out to be a fake.
        2. +5
          27 September 2023 20: 02
          Why is man, who has evolved on the planet for millions of years, the only creature on Earth who can break limbs simply by tripping?

          And also your other questions, Alexander.

          There is an opinion that people are much better adapted to the conditions of Mars than of Earth. Even to the length of the Martian day.
          We conducted an experiment, and more than one.
          People indoors, deprived of the ability to control the day by clock or sunlight, very soon began to independently establish a daily routine that corresponded to a day length of 24 hours 30 minutes (the approximate length of a Martian day is 24 hours 37 minutes).
          It turns out that the length of a Martian day is more comfortable for us. It’s like we don’t have enough half an hour on earth. Not to mention the lower Martian gravity compared to the Earth's, which eliminates diseases of the spine and legs.
          1. +4
            27 September 2023 20: 18
            There is an opinion that people are much better adapted to the conditions of Mars than of Earth. Even to the length of the Martian day.

            And the Martians, apparently, are better adapted to the conditions of the Earth, so they began to accelerate the rotation of Mars, as a result of which the Martian day is already being reduced by several fractions of a millisecond every year. Apparently the Martians want to make their day equal to the day on Earth.
            1. +4
              27 September 2023 21: 16
              Victor:
              ... the Martians want to make their day equal to the day on Earth.

              They will stop the process.
              Health is more valuable! )))
          2. 0
            27 September 2023 20: 24
            Quote: depressant
            Not to mention the lower Martian gravity compared to the Earth’s, eliminating diseases of the spine and legs

            And giving rise to a lot of other diseases.

            Hello, I haven’t seen you on the site for a long time. hi
            1. +3
              27 September 2023 21: 20
              Hello Roman! )))
              Yes, I still somehow exist in a parallel universe - in a cart, and then to the best of my ability. I read, looking for reasons to be afraid. In reality there are no reasons, but there are wassat )))
              Still, variety.
          3. +2
            27 September 2023 21: 48
            Especially before an exam, half an hour is not enough.
        3. +4
          27 September 2023 20: 25
          What can you read? I’ll tell you a secret - since man learned to transform the environment for himself (put on that same animal skin), he gained enormous advantages over animals - he populated the entire planet in all climatic zones - from the Arctic to the equator and ensured his survival during climate change .
          He does not need to adapt to the environment; he has learned to adapt it to himself.
          1. 0
            28 September 2023 13: 32
            Regarding your secret, I have one remark.
            Why did he take off his “skin” first?
            1. +1
              29 September 2023 11: 31
              Probably because in those specific conditions in a specific place in which he then found himself, he did not need it. But when he began to change the conditions (and the conditions change), he solved this problem by taking someone else’s skin, someone else’s cave, someone else’s fire, and so on. After that, he no longer had the need to adapt to the conditions in which he found himself - he simply adjusted them to himself. He needed a warmer skin - he didn’t change his body, but took such a skin from someone who already had it. He now had a choice of skins for different conditions.
        4. +1
          5 November 2023 18: 20
          Why are black-white hybrids often infertile?

          Do mulattoes and mestizos know about this? Would you mind providing a reliable link?
        5. 0
          3 January 2024 01: 27
          A horse can also break a leg by tripping.
      2. +1
        28 September 2023 00: 24
        Quote: kalibr
        You are poorly informed. Paleoclimatology says that the climate was different then, and the landscape was of the savanna type.


        In Europe 15 million years ago it was very comfortable. Pandas on the shores of the Black and Mediterranean seas ate leisurely bamboo, elephants grazed and other tropical animals.
    3. +4
      27 September 2023 17: 46
      The upright primate Danuvius guggenmosi is also known

      Danuvius guggenmosi were not erect walkers.
      1. +3
        27 September 2023 23: 29
        Quote: Dekabrist
        Danuvius guggenmosi were not erect walkers.


        The Scientist NOVEMBER 7, 2019
        Ape Fossils Shed New Light on Evolution of Bipedalism
        The 12-million-year-old bones of a previously unknown species named Danuvius guggenmosi challenge the prevailing view about when and where our ancestors first started walking upright.
        1. +1
          28 September 2023 19: 13
          Firstly, the BBC, with all due respect, is not a reliable source on this issue.
          Secondly, even in this note it is written that
          Danuvius combines the hindlimb-dominated bipedality of humans with the forelimb-dominated climbing typical of living apes

          Thirdly, today there is no clear evidence that Danuvius was an erect walker. To do this, some parts of the skeleton are missing. There are assumptions that are being discussed.
          Therefore, the statement that Danuvius was an erect walker is at least premature.
          https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03418-2
          https://www.newscientist.com/article/2222656-did-apes-first-walk-upright-on-two-legs-in-europe-not-africa/
          1. +1
            29 September 2023 12: 39
            Quote: Dekabrist
            Firstly, the BBC, with all due respect, is not a reliable source on this issue.


            Strange! What does the Air Force have to do with it if the publication is from

            The Scientist NOVEMBER 7, 2019


            A respected, peer-reviewed scientific journal.

            Madelaine Böhme, Nikolai Spassov, …David R. Begun Show authors
            Nature volume 575, pages 489–493 (2019)


            The 11.62-million-year-old Danuvius is a great ape that is dentally most similar to Dryopithecus and other European late Miocene apes. With a broad thorax, long lumbar spine and extended hips and knees, as in bipeds, and elongated and fully extended forelimbs, as in all apes (hominoids), Danuvius combines the adaptations of bipeds and suspensory apes, and provides a model for the common ancestor of great apes and humans.


            What else can I add? Doubts regarding upright walking at the beginning of the article apply specifically to tropical, African, Asian and American monkeys, since transitional forms have really not been found anywhere there. Such primates existed exclusively in Europe. At least for now, that's all we know.
            1. 0
              5 November 2023 18: 32
              A respected, peer-reviewed scientific journal.

              And what? Scientific journals are primarily a platform for publishing new research. Not all of them are confirmed. You use some articles, and simply ignore the rest. What's this called?
              Doubts regarding upright walking at the beginning of the article apply specifically to tropical, African, Asian and American monkeys, since transitional forms have really not been found anywhere there.

              Perhaps in Africa, much more transitional forms to upright walking were discovered than in Europe - where the only one was Danuvius, which hardly walked on the ground.
          2. +1
            5 January 2024 01: 34
            Quote: Dekabrist
            Therefore, the statement that Danuvius was an erect walker is at least premature.


            Some scientists argue that the discovery of Anoiapithecus and related ape fossils in Eurasia indicates that the common ancestor of living apes and humans evolved somewhere in that landmass, rather than in Africa as others have suggested. According to this hypothesis, the common ancestor of living African apes and humans would have returned to Africa sometime later, during the Miocene, while the ancestor of living orangutans remained in Eurasia. Other scientists dispute this hypothesis, pointing to the relatively poor quality of Africa's fossil record during the Middle and Late Miocene.

            Christopher Beard


            Apparently, any statements about man leaving Africa are premature. It is simply incorrect to say so for now.
    4. 0
      5 November 2023 18: 14
      Danuvius guggenmosi
      You might also remember Oreopithecus. The upright posture of Danube monkeys and bipedalism in humans have little in common.
      In fact, the hypothesis of man's exit from Africa does not stand up to criticism.

      Calm down already. It is your ideas that do not stand up to criticism.
      1. 0
        21 November 2023 13: 44
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu

        Calm down already. It is your ideas that do not stand up to criticism.


        What do my ideas have to do with this?
        For example, this:
        "Our find - Afrasia djijidae - allows us to confidently say that ape-like mammals originated in Asia. Afrasia is a key fossil of its kind, since it shows for the first time the time when our ancestors settled Africa. If this migration had not happened, then and we, most likely, would not exist, and we would not be able to tell about it,” said one of the authors of the discovery, Christopher Beard from the Carnegie Museum of National History in Pittsburgh (USA).

        As Zheger believes, this discovery will allow us to abandon the African hypothesis of the origin of monkeys and strengthen the position of supporters of an alternative theory.

        “For many years we thought that there were simply few fossils from this era in Africa and we had not yet found the most important ones. The very fact that similar ape-like creatures lived simultaneously in Libya and Myanmar indicates that there is a “gap” in the evolution of early apes "actually existed on the territory of Africa. Human ancestors were not on this continent until the moment when the first proto-monkey "colonizers" appeared in Libya," concludes the leader of the group.


        Of course, you can believe in the African origins of man for as long as you like, but the facts say otherwise. While in Europe and Asia there are many of these traces. If apes came to Africa, then man must have come to Africa, and not come out of Africa. Simply because, on their way to Africa, highly developed apes came into contact exclusively with primitive forms of monkeys and degraded, rather than evolving into higher forms.
        Another argument against this is blood type. The first group is predominantly European (the ancestral ape is extinct). The second group is still present in rhesus monkeys, as well as the Rh factor is positive. Moreover, these monkeys contain about 15% of the first blood group in the population. Which suggests contact with the European ancestral ape.
        The situation is the same with gorillas, only the percentage of the first blood group in gorillas is lower.
        Again, African monkeys have a pronounced crown, unlike humans.
        There are too many unconfirmed questions and inconsistencies with the African hypothesis.
      2. 0
        30 January 2024 15: 43
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        Calm down already. It is your ideas that do not stand up to criticism.


        "Colder global temperatures associated with the formation of ice sheets in the northern hemisphere approximately 3,2 million years ago correspond to an acceleration in the rate of change in the bony labyrinth, and this may signal a rapid increase in the rate of ape and human locomotor evolution," explains Harrison.


        However, a new study based on newly discovered data from the skulls of the 6-million-year-old fossil ape Lufengpithecus offers important clues about the origins of bipedal locomotion thanks to a new method: analyzing its bony inner ear region using three-dimensional computed tomography.


        Liufengpithecus skulls, first discovered in China's Yunnan province in the early 1980s, have given scientists new insights into unanswered questions about the evolution of locomotion.


        I don’t even know how one can criticize this and why. Maybe only because these monkeys lived in Asia (China), somewhat far from Africa.
        1. +1
          4 March 2024 20: 30
          Our find - Afrasia djijidae - allows us to confidently say that ape-like mammals originated in Asia.

          Yes, even in Antarctica! The origin of great apes and the origin of man are two completely different problems.
          While in Europe and Asia there are many of these traces.
          - for example? Only traces of the origin of man, and not some monkeys with incomprehensible locomotion and a completely unclear position on the evolutionary tree.
          Simply because, on their way to Africa, highly developed apes came into contact exclusively with primitive forms of monkeys and degraded

          Learn biology before you freeze it outright stupidity.
          Another argument against this is blood type.

          And what does blood type have to do with it? Read first the genetic mechanism for the formation of blood groups.
          Again, African monkeys have a pronounced crown, unlike humans.

          In more detail - what kind of crown is it?
          There are too many unconfirmed questions and inconsistencies with the African hypothesis.

          Every hypothesis has unconfirmed parts. But there is an African hypothesis of origin and it is generally accepted. Other things are in the minds of marginalized people like you. Neither the European nor the Asian theory of human origins has existed for half a century.
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          4 March 2024 20: 37
          I don’t even know how one can criticize this and why.

          Can you read? The origin of the great apes and the origin of man are different issues. There is a lot of debate about where anthropoids originated. They call Europe, Asia, and Africa. Where apes stood on two legs - according to modern concepts, most likely this happened several times in different monkeys. Human ancestors most likely got on their feet in Africa. There is no debate in the scientific community (excluding weirdos like you) where man originated - in Africa.
          1. 0
            4 March 2024 23: 49
            Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
            Human ancestors most likely got on their feet in Africa. There is no debate in the scientific community (excluding weirdos like you) where man originated - in Africa.


            Only the facts say otherwise. For example:

            18:12
            24.10.23
            Anthropology
            Paleogeneticists read the genomes of Crimeans who lived 37-36 thousand years ago
            Their remains were found at the Buran-Kaya-III site

            Radiocarbon dating showed that the BuKa3A sample is 35685–36840 years old, and the BuKa3C sample is 36245–37415 years old. Paleogeneticists have established that both bones belonged to male people. BuKa3C turned out to be a representative of the basal line of mitochondrial haplogroup U, and BuKa3A - to an early separated line within haplogroup N1, which differs markedly from the mitochondrial DNA sequences of other ancient representatives of haplogroup N - women from the Golden Kun cave (about 45 thousand years ago), men from Peshtera ku Oase (about 40 thousand years ago) and people from the Bacho Quiro cave (about 45 thousand years ago).

            In the male line, individual BuKa3C belonged to the basal branch of haplogroup F, which was previously identified in men from the Bacho Quiro and Peshtera cu Oase caves.


            All these haplogroups appeared in Asia or Europe.
            "By analyzing fragments of Neanderthal DNA that remained in modern human genomes, we found a striking trend," said John Capra, an epidemiologist at the University of California, San Francisco. According to him, many of them influenced the genes that control the biological clock of modern humans, in most cases “increasing the tendency to be a morning person.”


            In June 2023, an archaeological discovery in the Peloponnese rewrote ancient Greek civilization, becoming one of the most sensational discoveries of the decade.

            Stone tools dating back to the Lower Paleolithic period, estimated to be between 3,3 million and 300 years old, have been discovered deep in an open-pit coal mine in the Megalopolis area.

            Discovery makes Greece part of human evolution
            The Megalopolis Basin in the Peloponnese was one of the southernmost ecological refugia in Europe during the Middle Pleistocene Ice Ages, according to the results of a five-year program of terrestrial and geoarchaeological research recently completed by the Department of Culture and the American School of Classics. Study in Athens (ASCSA).


            Somehow there is a lot of contradictory data, even if stone tools dating back more than 3 million years ago are found even in Greece.

            UPDATED JUNE 24, 2015 - 21:28
            The jaw reveals that modern humans who lived 40 years ago had a Neanderthal great-great-grandfather.


            Remains of a Neanderthal child found in a cave in Catalonia
            50-year-old skull may indicate that human-Neanderthal hybrids originated in the Levant, not Europe as previously thought
            New study suggests Neanderthals never went extinct


            This all says the opposite.
          2. 0
            4 March 2024 23: 59
            Dr Paola Villa of the University of Colorado Museum and Professor Wil Robroeks of Leiden University wrote in the online journal Public Library of Science ONE that differences between the two human subspecies are not on their own sufficient to explain the extinction of Neanderthals - studies have shown that the genomes of Homo sapiens and Neanderthals are 99,84 percent genetically identical and contain less than 100 proteins that differ in amino acid sequence.

            Experts have suggested that Neanderthals went extinct because they were mentally, technologically and culturally inferior to Homo sapiens and could not compete for limited resources. But Dr Villa and Professor Robroeks said in their report: "We conclude that all archaeologically based explanations for the Neanderthal extinction... are flawed."


            “Genetic research now suggests that the Neanderthal extinction debate needs to be reframed in terms of some degree of interbreeding,” write the study authors, who argue that Neanderthals and early modern humans most likely interbred in Europe and on Earth. Middle East about 50 years ago.


            The study authors concluded that "Neanderthals did not go extinct, although their distinctive morphology disappeared." Instead, Neanderthals assimilated into the growing human population.

            Author: April Holloway


            Note that I didn't come up with this. Similar works are published almost daily. Are you probably ignoring them?
          3. 0
            5 March 2024 00: 12
            Back in 2013, researchers said Denisovans shared up to 8% of their genome with a “superarchaic” and unknown species that lived about 1 million years ago. Their genes suggest that Denisovans reproduced in Asia with a species that was neither modern humans nor Neanderthals. An unknown genome was discovered in two Denisovan teeth and a finger bone. This is not the only study that has suggested that unknown species await in the hominid family tree.


            What to do with this?
          4. 0
            5 March 2024 01: 06
            They then compared the genomes of modern humans with those of Neanderthals who lived about 120 years ago. To make this comparison, the team developed a new statistical method that allowed them to determine the origins of Neanderthal DNA in these modern sub-Saharan populations, whether they were regions that Neanderthals inherited from modern humans or regions that modern humans inherited from Neanderthals. and then returned to Africa.

            They found that all sub-Saharan populations contained DNA similar to Neanderthals, indicating that the phenomenon was widespread. In most cases, this Neanderthal DNA came from an ancient line of modern humans who passed their DNA on to Neanderthals when they migrated from Africa to Eurasia about 250 years ago. As a result of this modern human-Neanderthal interbreeding, approximately 000% of the Neanderthal genome was inherited from modern humans.


            Apparently you are from the same category of researchers who argue as shown in the comment above. Someone 250 years ago came from Africa to Europe, crossed with a Neanderthal, then returned to Africa and called himself a modern man who would conquer the whole world. Believe it if it’s more convenient for you to live. Nobody minds.
          5. 0
            1 May 2024 02: 10
            Sergey Sfiedu
            4 March 2024 20: 37
            There is no debate in the scientific community (excluding weirdos like you) where man originated - in Africa.


            Completely new information about human origins, especially for you.

            98% of Neanderthal genes: a blogger’s DNA test revealed the ancient secret of human ancestors.

            Canadian blogger Jory Waskahat has made a surprising discovery about his ancestry, finding an unusually high level of Neanderthal DNA in his genetic code. The video of the test results went viral and sparked lively discussions around human history. The discovery attracted the attention of a DNA specialist.
            More details: https://www.securitylab.ru/news/547875.php
            More details: https://www.securitylab.ru/news/547875.php


            The question arises. Who is Canadian blogger Jory Waskahat Homo Sapiens, or Neanderthal, if he has 98% Neanderthal genes. How many of these people still live on earth and where do they live? In any case, the publication literally states the following:
            The presence of "significant" amounts of Neanderthal DNA, as in Waskahata and many others, may indicate interbreeding between human ancestors and Neanderthals, but further research is likely needed to confirm this and accurately understand the implications. The influence of Neanderthal DNA remains a very active area of ​​research.
            More details: https://www.securitylab.ru/news/547875.php


            Thus, We cannot know or claim that there is only one modern human being, Homo Sapiens, as a species, and it originated in Africa.
  11. 0
    4 March 2024 19: 31
    Sho, again!? Are we descended from apes again? But what about the fact that 4 races appeared, approximately simultaneously, about 40 years ago? Archaeologists very clearly classify skeletal remains according to race. Moreover, the more ancient the remains, the clearer these signs are. And even according to research by geneticists, the Neanderthal could not be our ancestor - the genome was different. And what to do with it? Pretend that this does not exist and continue to “knock with a stone ax”? And some are advanced in keyboarding...
  12. 0
    4 March 2024 19: 35
    The Mystery of Human Origins (Episode 1)
    [media=https://video.wakesoft.info/video/362]
    The Mystery of Human Origins (Episode 2)
    [media=https://video.wakesoft.info/video/363]
    1. 0
      4 March 2024 19: 50
      "The Evolutionary History of Humanity"
      https://wakeupnow.info/ru/one-menu-ancients/3405-evolyutsionnaya-istoriya-chelovechestva-2