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What is waiting for the United States: the decline or the North American Empire? 2 part

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Problems with Western and Eastern Allies


The internal problems of the United States not only make them reduce military spending and reduce their presence abroad, but also have a negative effect on relations with their allies. European allies are less and less willing to support Americans in military operations. Moreover, this trend is constantly increasing. The Libyan campaign refused to support Germany. And in September, 2013, when the US was ready to attack Syria, for the first time in many years of NATO’s existence, they refused to fight with Syria around the bloc's 10 countries, including Germany and Britain’s most loyal American ally. The unexpected refusal of the British Parliament to participate in this war was a serious blow to Washington. Only France, which continues to conduct a military campaign in Mali, was eager to fight. The refusal of the Cypriot government to wage war with Syria from the territory of the island, as well as Egypt’s ban on the passage of military ships through the Suez Canal and on the use of its airspace, was unexpected. Although Egypt - a longtime ally of the United States and receives financial and military-technical assistance from the Americans.

Europeans justify the fact that war is expensive, and in the context of the global crisis, it is not profitable for the EU. European states continue the policy of reducing military spending. Many of them have already lost the ability to conduct large-scale defensive and offensive operations, transforming their armed forces into a kind of expeditionary-punitive corps, equipped with the latest technology, but small and incapable of conducting military operations against the armies of industrial powers like Iran. Over the past 13 years, European states have reduced their military spending by an average of 15%. Europeans are offering the United States to continue to sponsor NATO. Washington insists on joint participation in solving this problem. Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the secretary general of the military bloc, stated: "If the current trends in defense spending continue, this will limit the practical ability of European NATO countries to work together with their North American allies."

In the East, the entire system of alliances that the USA has been creating for decades has collapsed. Even such a loyal and completely dependent on Washington ally as Afghan President Hamid Karzai sharply criticized the NATO bloc, accusing its command of the fact that in ten years the West has failed to ensure stability in Afghanistan. The withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan will lead to the victory of the Taliban and increase the threat to the Central Asian republics.



The money issue is becoming increasingly obvious in Washington’s relationship with one of Asia’s main allies, Islamabad. So far, the United States annually gave Pakistan 2 billion dollars in a joint "fight against terrorism" and sold weapon at a big discount, Islamabad was a faithful and obedient ally. A particularly close alliance between the US and Pakistan was when they confronted the USSR in Afghanistan. But as soon as Washington faced financial difficulties and two years ago suspended financial cooperation, Islamabad immediately blocked the transit through its territory of cargo for the US armed forces and its NATO allies in Afghanistan, putting Washington in a difficult position. Americans even blamed Islamabad for supporting the Taliban, which is the case, and threatened to retaliate. Pakistani Foreign Ministry responded very harshly. Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said: “You can lose your ally. You should not make Pakistan a pariah ... otherwise you will have to answer for your choice. " In addition, in Pakistan the campaign of mass protests and indignations against the United States has been going on for several years. US accused of violating Pakistani sovereignty in connection with the use of drones in the airspace of Pakistan. Americans regularly strike at the leaders of terrorist movements and their bases, while civilians are often killed.

The US was forced to soften its position, and in October, Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was invited to the talks. The two powers agreed to expand bilateral trade and investment. In addition, Washington plans to renew military aid and allocate more than 1,6 billion dollars. However, it is obvious that the former union will no longer exist. Islamabad is increasingly focused on Beijing. China is gradually replacing the United States in Pakistan. China and Pakistan are actively engaged in military-technical cooperation, Beijing is arming Islamabad. Celestial Empire implements a wide range of projects in Pakistan, invests in the Pakistani economy.

Not having time to resolve all issues with Pakistan, the United States received a blow from yet another most faithful ally in the Middle East - Saudi Arabia. She, who sponsored the war in Syria, did not like the fact that the Americans abandoned the military operation and also began negotiations with Riyadh’s main enemy, Iran. As a result, they began to realize in Riyadh that they could simply be abandoned - Saudi Arabia could become the next victim of the “Arab spring”. On October 22, the head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, announced a possible curtailment of cooperation with the United States. “Departure from the United States is becoming the strategic line of Riyadh, we don’t want to live anymore in a situation depending on the opinion of Washington,” a source in the Prince’s inner circle told Reuters. Riyadh plans to revise the principles of cooperation in the energy sector and in the procurement of American weapons (Riyad spends tens of billions of dollars to buy the latest weapon systems). It is very symbolic that the new strategy of Saudi Arabia was voiced by Prince Bandar. Until recently, he was known as the most persistent and principled supporter of the union of the United States and Saudi Arabia. For more than twenty years, the prince was ambassador to the United States and during that time he “replaced” five American presidents, having received from journalists the nickname “an errand boy at the White House”.

US policy has been criticized by other members of the royal house. So, Prince Turki al-Faisal, he was the predecessor of Bandar as director of intelligence and became his successor as ambassador to the United States, called the Syrian policy of the White House "deplorable". Riyadh was so vexed by the position of Washington that it refused to be a non-permanent member of the UN Security Council. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon received an official letter from the authorities of the kingdom that Saudi Arabia, unfortunately, cannot take a place in the UN Security Council, for which she was elected on October 17 2013 of the year. The official explanation of Riyadh was the statement of the Foreign Ministry of the Kingdom about the inability of the Security Council to resolve the conflict in Syria and the Palestinian problem. Saudi Arabia’s partners in the Gulf Cooperation Council, which unites Arab monarchies, unanimously supported the decision of Riyadh.

The refusal of the United States of a military strike against Syria and the promotion of the idea of ​​international control over Syrian chemical weapons allowed Damascus to win a strategic victory. Even more Riyadh is worried about the negotiation process of the Western powers with Iran, although relatively recently the question was raised about a US strike with Israel on the Islamic Republic. The prospect of a deal between Washington and Tehran simply scares the Saudis, as it can lead to a loss of leadership in the region, and in the long term to a complete disaster. Riyadh, despite the huge financial opportunities and the presence of a huge arsenal of modern weapons, is not able to stand alone against Iran. The Saudi army has low combat capability.

It is necessary to take into account the financial factor. For several decades, Saudi Arabia has been completely tied to the American financial system. The Kingdom very long translated its fabulous oil revenues into dollars and US Treasury bonds. The Saudis, in exchange for a military "roof", were in fact sponsored by the United States. It is clear that the rumors that the United States has a plan for a managed default and a waiver of debt obligations with a transition to the domestic currency (“amero”) are very concerned about Riyadh. If the United States focuses on internal problems, moving to the policy of isolationism, and abandoning its debt obligations, the first wave of the crisis will hit precisely the closest allies of the United States most dependent on Washington and the dollar. Such a prospect with the simultaneous loss of the US military "roof" is the end of Saudi Arabia, which cannot counter Iran and its allies.

It is clear that the Saudis are not going to sit quietly while the familiar world collapses around them. Rumor has already emerged that Saudi Arabia is ready to acquire its nuclear weapons, which will become a new security guarantee. Saudi Arabia and previously contacted with Pakistan (possessor of nuclear weapons) on this issue, has funded the development of the Islamabad nuclear program. But earlier they had a guarantee of military security from the US, and Washington was holding back Riyadh’s nuclear ambitions. Now the picture is changing radically. This is what the Israelis say. The former head of the Israeli military intelligence (AMAN), Yamos Yadlin, said at a conference in Sweden in October that if Iran created a nuclear bomb, "the Saudis would not wait one month." “They’ve already paid for the bomb, they’ll just go to Pakistan and pick up what they have to pick up,” said Yadlin. Saudi Arabia has already warned the United States that if the Islamic Republic of Iran "crosses the line" and creates an atomic bomb, Riyadh will also receive atomic weapons. The Pakistani Saudis can also get delivery vehicles.

According to others, the kingdom already has them. The Saudis bought from China CSS-2 (Dongfeng 3) ballistic missiles with a range of 2,5 thousands of kilometers and a drop of two tons. A more sophisticated modification of Dongfeng 3A (DF-3A) has a range of 2,8 thousand km (up to 4000 km with lightweight MS). Around 60-120 of such missiles and 9-12 launchers, China put Saudi Arabia back in the 1987-1988 years.

Riyadh has its own Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Forces. In July, 2013, the grand opening of a new luxury building - the headquarters and academy of the Strategic Missile Forces in Riyadh. Prior to this, the headquarters of the RSSMF (Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force) was located in the underground complex of the air defense headquarters in Riyadh. The Saudi Strategic Missile Forces have a new partially underground missile base built by 2008 in the Al-Watah area (Al-Watah ballistic missile base). The base is located in 200 km south-west of the capital, in the rocky mountains, and has about 7 separate sites for mobile complexes. Their location indicates that the missiles are aimed at Israel and Iran. The Kingdom has two more older missile bases - Al-Sulayyul and Al-Jufair. Al-Jufair Base is located approximately 90 km south of Riyadh, and Al Sulayyul is about 450 km south-west of the Saudi capital. The Al-Sulayul base ballistic missile base was built with the help of Chinese specialists at the end of the 1980-s and has several parking spaces for mobile installations and two large launch sites. All three bases are armed with Dongfeng 3 Chinese ballistic missiles. There is information that Riyadh is considering to strengthen its missile arsenal and purchase from China two-stage Dunfeng-21 two-stage solid-fuel medium-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 1700-1800 km with a drop weight of 600 kg. This missile can also carry a nuclear warhead, and its modification is an anti-ship ballistic missile.

It must be said that the throwing of the United States towards Syria and Iran caused irritation of yet another key ally of Washington - Israel. Jerusalem has already provoked Syria several times, launched a series of air strikes against Syrian military targets, trying to escalate the conflict and draw the United States into it. However, it did not work out. Now Israel is annoyed with the US policy towards Iran. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly said: “Israel will not allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons. And if Israel is alone, then it will act alone. ”

Eastern press launched an active information campaign against the United States. The Arab News newspaper, 7, published in Riyadh in November, 2013, called the American President Barack Obama a “paper tiger”. At the same time, the author of the article, a well-known local political scientist, said that the United States would regret “their wrong policies that led to the strengthening of the role and influence of Russia in the Middle East.” Do not get tired of criticizing the United States and Egyptian newspapers. In Egypt, dissatisfied with the fact that the US cut military aid. Washington decided to suspend the transfer of heavy weapons and military aid to Cairo. In October 2013, this was reported in a written statement distributed by the head of the US State Department press service, Jen Psaki. The Americans suspended the supply of certain large military systems and monetary assistance until the political situation in Egypt stabilized. Every year, Washington gave Cairo about 1,5 billion dollars. Washington has already suspended the transfer of the next batch of F-16 fighters to Egypt and canceled the holding of the Bright Star ("Bright Star") annual joint military exercises. At the same time, the United States continues to assist Egypt in the field of border control, the fight against terrorism, and the provision of security on the Sinai Peninsula, and will supply spare parts for American-made equipment and assist in the training of troops.

Apparently, these US actions against Egypt and Saudi Arabia prompted the latter to intensify contacts with Russia. In the summer of 2013, the head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, secretly visited Russia. He held talks with V. Putin. They dealt with the situation in the Middle East. One of the prince's proposals was the purchase by Riyadh of Russian weapons for 15 billions of dollars and large investments in the Russian economy, in exchange for support in the Syrian and Iranian issues. A few days ago, the President of the Russian Federation and the King of Saudi Arabia held telephone talks on the conflict in Syria and the situation around the Iranian nuclear program. Egypt unexpectedly expressed interest in buying Russian weapons for 4 billion dollars. Given the difficult financial and economic situation in Egypt, only Saudi Arabia can pay for such a deal. Riyadh provides financial assistance to Cairo, not letting the Egyptian economy collapse. There was also a rumor about the possibility of the appearance of a Russian military base on the Egyptian coast. A Russian delegation arrived in Cairo headed by the ministers of foreign affairs and defense. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has already announced that agreements on military-technical cooperation between Egypt and Russia will begin to take shape in the near future.

It is obvious that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are trying to build a new security system in the region, actively inviting Russia to participate in this matter. The return of Russia to Egypt (the USSR had close military contacts with Egypt) could significantly change the balance of forces in the region. Cairo and Riyadh are not satisfied with the scenario when, after the final withdrawal of the United States from the region, Egypt and Saudi Arabia may disappear from the political map of the world. In the capitals of many Islamic states, they have recently begun to accuse the United States that their policies are aimed at redistributing the political map of the Near and Middle East and dividing the Arab states into smaller political entities. In such a situation, the leaders of the Islamic states are increasingly looking at Moscow, which does not support the course of the collapse of the former political system in the region and stands on the positions of preserving stability and the old order. Many media outlets of Islamic countries widely covered the meeting of the President of the Russian Federation with the mufti of the spiritual administrations in UN 22 October 2013, at which Vladimir Putin firmly said that Russia "is not interested in splitting or in rebuilding the Islamic world."

To be continued ...
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  1. Canep
    Canep 15 November 2013 08: 05
    10
    The United States will be forced to leave (grandmas have run out). This will be followed by a redivision of the world and one must be prepared for this. It seems We will have the honorable fate to stop the hordes of Islamists.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 15 November 2013 08: 24
      +4
      But as soon as Washington faced financial difficulties and suspended financial cooperation two years ago, Islamabad immediately blocked transit

      Here, many blame the USSR for loans to the Allies, and sometimes they have to buy. Mediocre truth is often written off, but the essence can not be changed.
    2. Polovec
      Polovec 15 November 2013 09: 00
      +9
      Stopping hordes is not the first time for us, but it does not add happiness. Whatever one may say, but this task is not for the "rapid reaction army". It is necessary to recreate the defense system of the Soviet Union. And the border must be protected in the same way.
      China may become the prototype of the United States. Look at everything from the side, arm the warring parties, come in at the right moment and become the winner over all. And earn in the war and become the rulers of the world.
      It is necessary to restore DalVO and ZabVO to the standards of the USSR.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 November 2013 09: 55
      +2
      (grandmas ended)? turn on the printing press and that's it, and again green candy wrappers will fly around the world. wassat
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 15 November 2013 12: 49
        +5
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        turn on the printing press and that's it, and again green candy wrappers will fly around the world. wassat


        They did not turn it off. Order 85 billion print per month. the cost of a 100 dollar bill is worth 14 cents. There was a rumor that on 20 billion will stop printing, so immediately markets to 5% prsoyali in a minus. But the new chapter said she was not going to reduce support for the US economy.
    4. explorer
      explorer 15 November 2013 09: 56
      +2
      Quote: Canep
      US will be forced to leave

      why shouldn't (the special services) turn everything so that the "hordes of Islamists" would go towards the United States (there is even a lot to rob repeat )?
      1. Onotollah
        Onotollah 15 November 2013 11: 50
        +1
        Quote: explorer
        would go towards the USA

        It would be nice, but it’s hard on water.
        But in Saudi Arabia, yes.
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 15 November 2013 12: 03
        +3
        Quote: explorer
        do not turn everything so that the "hordes of Islamists" would go towards the United States

        Will not work)). For several reasons.
        a) "Hordes of Islamists" were created specifically for the "construction" of the Great Caliphate at the expense of the territories of the former USSR, the states of the BV and Europe.
        b) The entire Islamic system is built on external financing and in order to introduce it into the self-reproduction mode, it needs to feed BV and Europe.
        c) In addition to the impudent skunks, the existence of "hordes of Islamists" destroying states can be beneficial only to the biggest rat, provided external feeding.
        d) The reason for the issuance of such top dressing, regardless of the costs and sacrifices, can only be a complete loss in existing realities.
        Who can write off all debts and paint a bullet from scratch? Obviously not Russia))
    5. APES
      APES 15 November 2013 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: Canep
      The United States will be forced to leave (grandmas have run out).


      I would say differently: trust is over

      more and more, even the most stubborn began to understand:
      EVERYTHING the USA does does EVIL.

      Quote: Canep
      This will be followed by a redivision of the world


      he never stopped
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    7. mnn_13
      mnn_13 16 November 2013 02: 49
      0
      This will be followed by a redivision of the world and we must be prepared for this. It seems We will have the honorable fate to stop the hordes of Islamists.

      If this is true, then Russia will again have to do the hardest work and the United States will first of all look. Something similar happened in World War II.
      My feeling is that Washington is playing a kokuyutu game and a significant part of this game is drawing Russia into the Middle East conflict system.
      They did everything necessary to destroy peace and stability in the region and it is possible that now they are leaving the crime scene to save forces and resources and are not directly involved in the impending war.
      If the Russian leadership really cooperates in some way with the Anglo-Saxons, it must be borne in mind that in the long run Russia may turn out to be deceived again. Profits from arms deals may turn out to be short-term.
  2. kmike
    kmike 15 November 2013 08: 25
    +3
    The article was very pleased, thanks to the author. Finally, Russia returns the lost positions in the world. And along with the return of the positions, common sense also comes.
    1. Polovec
      Polovec 15 November 2013 09: 07
      +3
      So far, few positions have returned to Russia. So far, only an attempt at blackmailing Russia by the vassals of his overlord is evident. But not to take advantage of this is a sin. We must make this systemic, and this is the work of intelligence and diplomats.
  3. morpogr
    morpogr 15 November 2013 09: 12
    +2
    America overpowered. Yes, and it's time to understand forcibly by democracy, you won’t be pretty American. People and countries must decide for themselves.
    1. alone
      alone 15 November 2013 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      America overpowered ..


      I have already heard this since 2010. When will this solemn moment finally come?
  4. theadenter
    theadenter 15 November 2013 09: 24
    +1
    The US allies, faced with numerous problems, including financial and military-strategic ones, flavored with the fact that their big patron is monitoring and listening to them, begin to sober up, to realize that something in this world is wrong, and that their patron , in fact, acts as a puppeteer. Europeans simply stopped turning a blind eye to the true affairs of the United States in view of funding cuts. I will be glad if the US connection with Europeans breaks - it is enough for the United States to make a human shield from an entire continent and impose its point of view on them.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 16 November 2013 12: 17
      0
      Quote: theadenter
      - begin to sober up, realize that something in this world is wrong

      Lies, hell ... and provocation! as the great Lenin said)).
      The game is in full swing, and players cannot be considered cards)).
  5. zvereok
    zvereok 15 November 2013 09: 58
    +1
    "The Americans suspended the supply of certain major military systems and monetary assistance until the political situation in Egypt stabilized. Washington gave Cairo about $ 1,5 billion annually."

    The author did not mention that military assistance provided to Egypt was stipulated in close connection with military-technical cooperation between the USA and Israel, which made it possible to maintain a balance of forces in the region. Apparently the US is really leaving the region.

    PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
  6. Basileus
    Basileus 15 November 2013 10: 38
    +2
    It is obvious that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are trying to build a new security system in the region, actively inviting Russia to participate in this matter.

    About CA is funny. It may be promising to be friends with the Saudis in terms of the fact that the terrorists will leave us behind, but it’s stupid - this nest of obscurantism needs to be destroyed, not cooperated with it. And the CA is not very eager to be friends with us - their heads are already spinning from the abundance of petrodollars, they decided that they could live without the United States.
  7. Vitaminchik05
    Vitaminchik05 15 November 2013 11: 26
    +2
    Everything goes to the redivision of the world. But I don’t remember significant redistributions without a war ... Therefore, Russia is throwing everything that floats to the Middle East - it looks like it will soon bang there ... It's also a shame that Russia and the USSR always lacked a little time - and now they do not have time to rebuild fleet, rearm. I feel "fun" days await us ...
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 15 November 2013 11: 52
      0
      Quote: Vitaminchik05
      rebuild the fleet, rearm.

      Yes, South-West Military District is arming rapidly.
      Looks like rain.
    2. Theophanes
      Theophanes 15 November 2013 15: 29
      0
      Sure, MERRY DAYS, they’ll come. But are we ready-QUESTION. PROBABLY NOT .
  8. vkrav
    vkrav 15 November 2013 11: 56
    +1
    Yes, you buried America too early ... they bought a huge amount of resources and technologies on green pieces of paper, did all the dirty tricks and built the pyramidal system in which they are at the top. Now there is a process of throwing everyone to whom they owe. They solve their problems purely here - -Make for everything an extreme non-resident and on the way to get rid of the excesses of a lazy population. In short, everything is going according to plan.
  9. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 15 November 2013 12: 58
    +1
    At the same time, the author of the article, a well-known local political scientist, said that the United States will regret “its wrong policy, which led to the strengthening of the role and influence of Russia in the Middle East
    How this contrasts with the words below:
    Egypt and Saudi Arabia may disappear from the political map of the world. In the capitals of many Islamic states, the United States has recently begun to accuse the United States of having aimed at redistributing the political map of the Near and Middle East and breaking up the Arab states into smaller political entities. In such an environment, the leaders of Islamic states are increasingly looking at Moscow, which does not support the policy of the collapse of the former political system in the region and is in the position of maintaining stability, the former order
    I honestly wakes up disgusted if Russia wakes up to deal with these dogs. As the saying goes, if they are "ideological" allies of the United States, then it is necessary to support a friend in trouble with honor.
    If all their friendship was based solely on peaceful interests, all the more it is necessary to drive such friends with pissed rags away from the Russian border.
    Friendship with the Saudis is possible only if they publicly repent of their sins against Russia and support the terrorists, crawl on their knees, embrace the Orthodox faith and retire until the end of their days in the monastery will atone for sins. Otherwise, there’s nothing to talk about.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 15 November 2013 19: 28
      +3
      When dealing with a dog, just do not forget about the stick. No matter how touching he licked your hands, he can nibble at any moment. Therefore, if a little roar at you - on the crest of it or on the skull! As a rule, we flew over and over again, taking oriental flattery for sincere friendship. It is necessary to give up this habit, that’s all.
      The Egyptians want "the return of the USSR" - read another Aswan for free. Or two ... Ask - we'll come back. Only transfer money on time and in full. Better yet, not money but oil. So be it, we'll sell it ourselves. For yuan it will be better ...
  10. svskor80
    svskor80 15 November 2013 13: 02
    +3
    State level of Russia, the United States can only be destroyed from the inside. So far, the United States has only external problems, and nothing means will happen to them. They haven’t left nowhere, the events taking place now are tactics, and the strategy must be carefully analyzed so as not to be left in the margins of world politics and life.
  11. major071
    major071 15 November 2013 13: 35
    +4
    Canep
    The United States will be forced to leave (grandmas have run out). This will be followed by a redivision of the world and one must be prepared for this. It seems We will have the honorable fate to stop the hordes of Islamists.

    As always, some will leave heaps of der ma around the world, and we will have to rake them. negative
  12. GRIGORY
    GRIGORY 15 November 2013 16: 04
    0
    If the United States falls, then China will remain. I think after the collapse of the United States, relations with China will worsen, since 2 powers will remain. As they say - 2 bears will not get along in one den, but for now it is beneficial for China to cooperate with us and the collapse of the United States is beneficial. angry
    1. alone
      alone 15 November 2013 19: 54
      +1
      laughing And Gregory had already taken and ruined America into small pieces and began to fight with China.

      Take your time. It’s too early to bury this beast. Oh how early. They are still capable of much. It’s better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate.
      1. Bars90
        Bars90 17 November 2013 21: 33
        0
        He who is careful in life is a guarantor in success.
  13. Arkan
    Arkan 15 November 2013 19: 11
    +1
    A holy place is never empty. But, the return of Russia to the East should be balanced and careful, in terms of finance and military cooperation.
  14. uzer 13
    uzer 13 15 November 2013 20: 21
    +1
    USA uber alles ...
  15. Hektor
    Hektor 15 November 2013 21: 40
    +2
    In the summer of 2013, the head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, secretly visited Russia. He held talks with V. Putin.


    According to euronews showed, but still a secret))
  16. dmitry21
    dmitry21 15 November 2013 21: 43
    +2
    "... It is obvious that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are trying to build a new security system in the region, actively inviting Russia to participate in this matter ..."
    ? Arabia? it is foolish to hope that this will lead to any positive changes between east and north - since the middle of the last century, a simple idea has been generated there: we are the chosen Kingdom and we allow, for example, the North American United States to help. moreover, I think that now the Saudis are simply speculating in international relations and are pushing the American government towards their usual movements (SA).
    and Egypt has once turned to the USSR "non-face" ... and why do we need this? why "participate"? what kind of influence do we need there?
  17. Keeper
    Keeper 16 November 2013 03: 27
    +2
    As soon as the "infusion" ends, the "showdown" will begin ....
    At one time, when the USSR still existed, the friendly country of Czechoslovakia received gas and oil from the USSR at a 60% discount on the market price! As soon as the USSR was gone, Russophobia suddenly began. They began to recall "tanks on the square" in '68 (although the introduction of armored vehicles was a request of the government of that time).
  18. Keeper
    Keeper 16 November 2013 03: 35
    0
    Quote: GRIGORY
    .... As they say - 2 bears do not get along in the same den, but for now, it is beneficial for China to cooperate with us and the collapse of the United States is beneficial. angry

    They get along if one of the bears is a female)) we will make China weak and feminine ... By giving birth to a female generation after the entire male population "wants to fight" ...
  19. Bars90
    Bars90 17 November 2013 21: 27
    0
    Do not trust the current state of affairs too much. Some default of the United States, this is not the reason for inspiration and joy ... Perhaps there is a certain background here. One way or another, you should keep your finger on the pulse.
  20. karavay1982
    karavay1982 17 November 2013 23: 59
    0
    In order.
    The US did not bomb Syria.
    Money plays almost no role here. The United States prints these dollars as much as it wants.
    Politics is not only negotiations between two uncles at the table, it is public opinion both domestically and globally.
    And we will return a bit to Syria.
    In terms of air defense, Syria will be better equipped, if Shells and some medium-range systems were brought in here, then the losses of attackers in airplanes will be noticeable, and Iran is also nearby, which will also help in some way.
    And at the same time, the Syrian regime and their president suit a large part of the population, namely, the rebels create lawlessness and are al-Qaeda in its purest form.
    How the American authorities will look in front of their citizens, how to explain to them why they will bomb Syria. For al-Qaeda to come to power, against which the United States is so valiantly fighting in Afghanistan. At the same time, American guys will die.
    Previously, the logic was simple - Iraq-Hussein and its chemical weapons, which are used against civilians, and even threaten to use neighbors.
    Who will be against it.
    Afghanistan - Taliban support al Qaeda
    Who will be against it.
    Libya. Some kind of Cadaffi psycho bombes civilians from another tribal union.
    Who is against it.
    And here is Syria. The militants are not just fighting the army, but have already begun religious purges, killing both women and children.
    They decided - chemical weapons, but Syria is ready to give.
    The dilemma is to bomb, so it means to lose American guys for al-Qaeda. No one will forgive here, which means you will fly by at the next election.
    Conclusion on a fig bomb, it is better the United States will supply the "rebels" with weapons and prepare them, and they will simply wear down the regular units and destroy the entire infrastructure.
    Somehow everyone is silent, what about the economy of Syria.
    The United States simply changed its tactics a bit. The Syrian economy will collapse, then the industrial potential will collapse, and there will be hunger riots, and then Assad will become a dictator, and then certainly no one will point a finger.
    Saudi Arabia.
    She had endured for a long time, so she began to cast her voice. There was a chance to deal with competitors, and at the same time, as always with the wrong hands, but the US, oddly enough, turned on its head.
    Israel.
    They have all the politics based on the fact that Syria, Lebanon, Iran are enemies and they must be bombed. But they clearly understand that they will get the most.
    Now Russia.
    At the same time, it was heartening in our hearts that our landing ships sailed to the shores of Syria, but bitterly. You saw them, their condition.
    Could have been wiser and more visionary to do. To put on credit or lease air defense systems that completely covered the entire territory of Syria, than show our rusty ships to the world, with which landing ships came up, as if it were Russia who would land troops, and not destroyers and frigates.
    But now the policy of Russia is the lack of a foreign policy.
    It seems silly to me to cooperate with Saudi Arabia, which trained the militants who fought in Chechnya, financed them, and now it is preparing militants for the war in Syria.
    I think it's stupid.
    Or for example, not supplying S-300 to Iran, although Iran does not threaten anyone.
    But it is the supply of S-300 that will allow us not to drive our ships, but to cool some hotheads.