The Urals are gaining weight: the Motovoz and Tornado families

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"Ural Tornado-U". Photo: autoreview.ru

A difficult decade


Trucks of the Ural family were originally designed for the needs of the military, as has been repeatedly mentioned in previous parts, and this greatly complicated the survival of the plant after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The main competitor, KamAZ, could offer customers a wider product line, including, inter alia, long-haul tractors, which Miass couldn’t work out with. In addition, the specifics of the work almost exclusively for defense needs left a mark on the engineering level of the plant - many solutions were not suitable for civilian needs. For example, in the 5323s, on the four-axle giants “Ural-20-90”, cabins from Naberezhnye Chelny were used for the Russian army. This cabin was already outdated and, if the model entered the civilian market, one could not have dreamed of big sales. Therefore, a giant 8x8 “Ural-5323-22” appeared with a cabin from the Italian IVECO. However, this did little to help the Miass plant - the output fell from Soviet 30 thousand cars a year to 5,4 thousand. As a result, in 1998, external management was introduced at UralAZ, which, oddly enough, saves the plant: in a couple years factory workers increase output.


"Ural" with the air defense system "Shell-C1". Photo: pvo.guns.ru

All this time, the Ministry of Defense bought trucks in relatively small quantities and there was no particular incentive to further modernize the military line. Nevertheless, the work went on. The entire Ural-4320 family received its own name, Motovoz, which actually means a small shunting locomotive. It was not known whether the decision on such a name was caused by considerations of secrecy, but it turned out sonorous and original. KamAZ simultaneously with the Ural "Motovozov" existed and still exists a similar line of "Mustang". "Ural-Motovoz" were two-, three- and four-axle and were equipped mainly with various diesels of the Yaroslavl Motor Plant. The truck line has been actively exported to Africa, Southeast Asia and South America. And at the end of 1994, the Ural-5323.4 almost became a mobile base for the world-famous Pantsir-C1 missile and artillery complex. The car was equipped with a KamAZ-7406 diesel engine with a capacity of 260 liters. from. For a long time it was believed that the Ural truck was supposed to carry an air defense system, but in the end the plant in Naberezhnye Chelny won, and now the KAMAZ machine has become the first association on Pantsir-C1. But large "Urals" were nevertheless supplied to the troops, in particular, links to the PMP pontoon fleet were mounted on model 53236. Currently, “Ural” has been suspended, it has completed the acquisition of pontoon parks with its equipment - a niche has been given to KamAZ.




Ural-5323. Photo: wikipedia.org










"Ural-4320", put on rails using the UKH system (universal combined stroke). In this hypostasis, the car best meets the name “Motovoz”. Photo: mpark.pro

Definitely in the hands of manufacturers from Miass and Naberezhnye Chelny was the loss of Ukrainian KrAZ products for the Russian army. The niche of heavy trucks began to be occupied by domestic four-axle models. Why was it not possible to create a three-axle four-wheel drive model with a carrying capacity of more than 90 tons in the 7s? After all, it is clear that 8x8 cars are much more expensive and more difficult, although they win in cross-country ability. The thing is the lack of suitable bridges for such heavy machines. No, of course, they were, for example, such units were offered by the Hungarian Raba, but for military reasons this did not suit the military. So I had to increase the load capacity with additional bridges. It turned out pretty well: Ural-5323 takes on 10 tons at once, and the youngest triaxial 4320-31 on hard surface - four tons less. The problem of the lack of “heavy” domestic bridges at UralAZ was partially solved only in recent years.

To mislead


The problem of Ural and KamAZ over the past five to six years has been the possible sanctions of the West in connection with the defense products of factories. And if they are not particularly scary for military equipment, then civilian products without foreign engines, gearboxes and other little things can not do. In this, by the way, there is nothing to worry about - there are no large automakers left in the world who are completely relying on components of their own production. KAMAZ PJSC solved this problem gracefully when they launched the entire military line of equipment under the subsidiary brand of Remdiesel JSC, or RD. Now there is no concept of a new army KamAZ Mustang-M - only Remdiesel. The official website also does not mention the army products of the plant in Naberezhnye Chelny. Until recently, UralAZ was part of the GAZ Group, whose boss, Oleg Deripaska, in 2018 fell under the sanction of the US Ministry of Finance. And he didn’t need any additional problems with the United States in connection with an asset working for the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Therefore, Deripaska made a deal for the sale of Ural Automobile Plant with the United Engineering Group (OMG) of Dmitry Strezhnev.









The Urals are gaining weight: the Motovoz and Tornado families


"Tornado-U", in which not all domestic components. But in Miass, they are working on this problem. Photo: autoreview.ru

As a result, a company was formed, which, in addition to the Miass plant, included part of the Yaroslavl Motor Plant and the joint venture RM-Tereks, combining the enterprises of Tver Excavator, Bryansk Arsenal, Chelyabinsk Construction and Road Machines, and Zavolzhsky Plant tracked tractors. " So the GAZ Group was secured against foreign sanctions that could very well have stopped the automobile giant conveyor. And a car factory working for the Russian army was also protected from the wrath of the West. Do not think that such somersaults are possible only in Russia - for several years now, the German MAN has been supplying the Bundeswehr with trucks under the Rheinmetall brand. Fearing the overly liberal world of modern business, the Germans built a joint venture RMMV (Rheinmetall MAN Military Vehicles), not even in Germany but in Austria, to completely cover up traces of military products. The French renamed their combat Renault Trucks Defense by analogy with the Germans to divert their eyes to Arquus ("Horse").


Ural-4320-0811-31. Photo: mpark.pro


Airfield air conditioning AK 1,0-30-1-1U. Photo: mpark.pro


The van-bus PAF-5350.1-11. Photo: mpark.pro


Repair and locksmith's workshop (armored vehicles) МРС-БТМ.1 Photo: mpark.pro

Some time ago, the impression was made that military products from Miass were gradually being supplanted by KAMAZ vehicle-free vehicles. This could put the defense department in an unenviable position when all wheeled vehicles, from tactical to operational level, depend on one plant. And if again the engine shop burns down, as in the 90s? Moreover, the Urals have a definite advantage over KamAZ at the forefront in the army tactical level. Currently, this situation does not change much: the Ministry of Defense buys Urals even less than in the early 2000s.

The main thing is not to get confused


Now in the Ural production line for military needs there are four families at once: Motovoz, Motovoz-M, Tornado-U and Typhoon-U. Separately, it is worth noting that the armored Ural-63095 Typhoon-U did not get into the Russian army - apparently, the purchases of the Remdiesel "Typhoons-K63968" were considered sufficient. But the more spacious MRAP "Ural-63099" Typhoon "in good volumes (up to 200 cars per year) enters the troops. In many ways, the reason for this was almost complete localization: only the winch and starter remained from the foreign one. Even bulletproof tires adapted to produce at the Chelyabinsk Forge and Press Plant. Among the protected cars, Ural-BB is also easier to buy in Miass, however, only the Russian Guard is the client. Work is currently underway to purchase the Ural-VP option for the Russian military police. In 2018, they tried to raise the Ural-53099 armored vehicle with gradually dying demand from the military in Miass. This is a lightweight biaxial version of the MRAP Ural-63099 Typhoon, but little is known about the army’s fate as a “baby”.






MRAP Ural-53099 Typhoon. Photo: twower.livejournal.com

The classic first-generation Motovozovs will probably leave the stage within the next couple of years - after all, the cabin is already quite outdated and is not really prepared for booking. The largest among the three-axle Motovoz is the Ural-4320-0811-31, on the long frame of which both an ordinary on-board body, and airfield air conditioner AK 1,0-30-1-1U, and staff KUNG MSH-5350.1 with staff the same trailer PSh4M. KUNG in modern reading is K5350.1-11, and its passenger bus version is PAF-5350.1-11. In general, as always in the best traditions of the national school of naming military equipment.






"Motovoz-M" for the Russian Guard. Photo: ria.ru




Ural-VP is a lightweight MRAP for military police. Photo: mpark.pro









The differences between Tornado-U and Motovoz-M are barely noticeable. Meanwhile, these are cars of different class. Photo: twower.livejournal.com

The hardest part is stories with modern “Urals” - not to remember all abbreviations, but to learn to distinguish between each other the equipment of the “Tornado-U” family (do not confuse it with the MRAP of the same name from “Remdiesel”) and “Motovoz-M”. Remember: Ural-63706-0011 Tornado-U trucks are the heaviest cars from Miass, such direct substitutes for Ukrainian KrAZ trucks. Gross weight can reach 32 tons with a load capacity of 12,5 tons. The car is assembled around the “peaceful” and unmanned “Ural-6370”, which means that the bridges at the “Tornado-U” are Hungarian (Chinese, as an option), the engine, although 440-horsepower YaMZ-652, is manufactured under French license and is a Renault dCi 11 diesel with common rail injection. The cabin is frame-panel and is well suited for booking - even crossbar type door locks.






The first of its kind in Russia is the mobile Phlox based on the Urals Motovoz-M with an armored cab. Photo: mpark.pro

Cars "Motovoz-M" are noticeably lighter. In fact, these are elongated classic Urals with a cabin as unified as possible with Tornado-U. The manufacturer, in particular, offers the army to buy the Ural-4320-38011-30 with the Phlox gun - the truck at the time made a lot of noise at the Army 2016 exhibition. This Motovoz-M has a double-row armored cabin, and its design is also different from the rest of the Urals. The usual on-board Ural-4320 Motovoz-M takes 7 tons of cargo with a curb weight of 18,4 tons.


Ural-M. Photo: autoreview.ru

But that's not all! There are also Ural-M vehicles in a promising line - military modifications of the civil Ural NEXT. It is these trucks that should replace the first-generation Motovoz trucks. The main thing is not to get confused.
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  1. +15
    25 March 2020 18: 11
    Wonderful car! good
    1. +3
      25 March 2020 18: 29
      Quote: Trevis
      Wonderful car! good

      Proven in battles and areas of the Far North, etc.
  2. +18
    25 March 2020 18: 14
    With urgent love, Urals ,, Sneha- above the bumper and he rushing like crazy! This car!
  3. +6
    25 March 2020 18: 14
    The main thing is not to get confused smile
    1. 0
      27 March 2020 21: 07
      The main thing is to get rid of everything imported as soon as possible
  4. +9
    25 March 2020 18: 25
    Thanks for the article, Eugene. hi
    "Ural" is what little we have and what we can be proud of. I remember this car since my military service, and I can’t say anything other than kind words. soldier
    1. +5
      25 March 2020 18: 28
      Quote: Sea Cat
      "Ural" is what little we have and what we can be proud of. I remember this car since my military service, and I can’t say anything other than kind words.

      Well, the Urals knowingly say the ridge of Russia and the technology is the same, rough, but powerful and passable
      1. +4
        25 March 2020 18: 30
        This is what I meant. I saw one "Ural" pulling two loaded 157s in a coupler, like a turnip from a garden bed. smile
        1. -2
          25 March 2020 18: 36
          Quote: Sea Cat
          This is what I meant. I saw one "Ural" pulling two loaded 157s in a coupler, like a turnip from a garden bed. smile

          There are a lot of videos on the network, it is fascinating, but these are cars from the times of the USSR .. These are new, carous, of course, outwardly, but have not yet been specifically tested ..
          1. +4
            25 March 2020 19: 05
            Colleague, I still hope that these machines are not worse than those with which I had a chance to communicate during the time in the SA. Even then, I was struck by the steering wheel of the "Ural" in terms of the ease of control of a loaded car. The guys from the authors gave it to try. And with ZILK he could not be compared in any way, i.e. ZIL was an outsider in all respects. I rode both those and others, although I myself was a tank commander (T-54), for a long time it was like a fairy tale. Youth... hi
            1. 0
              25 March 2020 19: 21
              Quote: Sea Cat
              Colleague, I still hope that these machines are not worse than those with which I had a chance to communicate during the time in the SA. Even then, I was struck by the steering wheel of the "Ural" in terms of the ease of control of a loaded car. The guys from the authors gave it to try. And with ZILK he could not be compared in any way, i.e. ZIL was an outsider in all respects. I rode both those and others, although I myself was a tank commander (T-54), for a long time it was like a fairy tale. Youth...

              So write about this more often .. And then foreign analogs are being sucked in and praised to our mouths with foam .. hi
              In Russia, with its vast expanses and difficult road conditions and a sharply continental climate, we need cars. Simple (at a price, etc.), powerful and most importantly re-capable in the field .. This is our trick that Russian cars have always had ..
              Remember the joke in the west? That only the Russians can’t come up, if only not to build good roads! hi fellow
              1. +3
                25 March 2020 19: 48
                Remember the joke in the west? That only the Russians could not come up, if only not to build good roads.

                This is "not in the eyebrow, but in the eye", that's right. And the same applies to weapons. Only here, write, don't write, you can't prove anything to the freaks, but they muddy the waters pretty much. I'm not talking about the "liberals" and other unloved "urapatriots" who are imposing on our ears, it just sometimes gives the impression that somewhere they have set the goal of ruining absolutely everything, even that which does not make sense to spoil. It’s somehow sad from all this. And you go to the History section, where it is sometimes very interesting. smile drinks
                1. -1
                  25 March 2020 19: 54
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  it’s just that sometimes it seems that somewhere they set a goal to spoil everything absolutely at us, even that which does not make sense to spoil. Somehow sad of all this.

                  You understood me correctly Konstantin .. hi
                  Well, for now .. And what to do? Break through .. soldier
                  1. 0
                    25 March 2020 19: 58
                    .So what to do ? Break through .. soldier

                    And what to do ... One can only hope. hi
                    1. -3
                      25 March 2020 20: 07
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      .So what to do ? Break through .. soldier

                      And what to do ... One can only hope. hi

                      And fight, with all the trash that is trying to lower Russia and us ..
                      These are the things in the tank forces of the Ural divisions of Russia .. soldier
                      1. +2
                        25 March 2020 20: 12
                        Quote: Round smesharik
                        These are the things in the tank troops

                        Oh! Mask do I know you?!?!
                      2. -4
                        25 March 2020 20: 19
                        Quote: Phil77
                        Quote: Round smesharik
                        These are the things in the tank troops

                        Oh! Mask do I know you?!?!

                        Well, depending on what quality .. wink hi
                      3. +1
                        25 March 2020 20: 33
                        The style, style of presentation is familiar. wink
                      4. 0
                        25 March 2020 20: 22
                        It is necessary to keep the front, regardless of politics and other weaknesses. We have one country, the other will not work. soldier
                      5. -3
                        25 March 2020 20: 25
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        It is necessary to keep the front, regardless of politics and other weaknesses. We have one country, the other will not work. soldier

                        It is beautifully said, and I am also trying to adhere to this opinion, although it is very difficult .. hi
                      6. 0
                        25 March 2020 20: 47
                        Yes, complicated, let's get together. Waiting for a story. drinks
                2. +3
                  25 March 2020 20: 10
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  . And you go to the History section, it is sometimes very interesting there

                  And the people there are going to interesting, cheerful, kindly! With humor! Greetings Konstantin!
                  1. +2
                    25 March 2020 20: 20
                    Hello, Sergey! We are always glad to good people, I declare this as a notorious Russophobe-trilobite. laughing
                    1. 0
                      25 March 2020 20: 33
                      When did they identify you as Russophobes? By the way, in * history * is now an interesting article about pioneers. Have you not been seen there, truant? wink
                      1. +1
                        25 March 2020 20: 48
                        I’ll dive, but are you already there?
                      2. +1
                        25 March 2020 20: 51
                        And then! I, Nikolai, Vlad. And also Wild Astra / if in Russian /. laughing
        2. +1
          25 March 2020 19: 12
          It is necessary to plant 157 zilok aka "marmont", the machine is passable, it was possible to drive this one time, it rides its wings (side hoods), then hands ached, any stone was thrown by a blow on the steering wheel, unpretentious, after it you begin to believe that ours WWII from the pot, gasoline was poured into the carburetor and drove)))
          1. 0
            25 March 2020 19: 34
            Quote: Anika
            It is necessary to plant 157 zilok aka "marmont", the machine is passable, it was possible to drive this one time, rides its wings flapping (side hoods) hands then ached

            And after ZIL-151, they did not let their hands sleep all night, and again in the morning. As I recall, the trembling takes.
  5. -3
    25 March 2020 18: 41
    And if again the engine shop burns down, as in the 90s?

    Well, it was just the motor that burned, not without the help of "partners".
    They knew what place to strike .....
  6. -7
    25 March 2020 18: 51

    "Ural" with "Pantsir-S1" air defense system.
    So gentlemen, the usual Urals, production of Naberezhnye Chelny)
    1. +2
      25 March 2020 19: 02
      Do you doubt that this is Ural from Miass?
    2. +1
      25 March 2020 19: 05
      Quote: Threaded screw
      ordinary Ural, production of Naberezhnye Chelny)

      ?
      And where does Naberezhnye Chelny?
      1. 0
        April 3 2020 19: 59
        There KAMAZ in the photo
    3. +10
      25 March 2020 19: 32
      Quote: Threaded screw
      So gentlemen, the usual Urals, production of Naberezhnye Chelny)

      And how do you like this?
      1. +5
        25 March 2020 20: 03
        Quote: Dym71
        And how do you like this?

        There, you can immediately see the distance between the front wheels.
  7. +1
    25 March 2020 18: 51
    Thank. As usual, it was interesting to read)
  8. +1
    25 March 2020 18: 55
    And what is the fate of the 8x8 tractor with an armored cab and three axles at the rear?
  9. -1
    25 March 2020 18: 57
    Cool cars in the cockpit on an armored car is pretty nice, but at least some kind of receiver was installed. Look at the Renovsk diesel, produced at YaMZ, but damn the Chinese oil filter request Or they bought a filter car and didn’t bathe for a couple of years. Railway adapters are interesting, I have never seen such. True, they will drag a little. the wheels are small. That always struck the inertia of our car factories. As they started to do something in 50 years, and so they drove without changes in practice. and then oh, they don’t take them from us, well, do it better, in the Urals they forced the same dump truck to be kicked in the late 80s. The same bridges of high load-carrying capacity, could be replaced; it was possible to buy bridges at least from the MAZ and start making, not the most difficult part. Slave bridges are good, but they are probably a little expensive.
    1. +1
      26 March 2020 10: 02
      On bridges and boxes, problems are generally incomprehensible .. What is the difficulty then? Can't design? I do not believe! There is nothing beyond the natural! For a long time all decisions are worked out! What kind of a problem do they make of this? This is not electronics, where there are terrible gaps, and banal mechanics with which there have been no difficulties for a long time .. The whole question is in the purchase of equipment and staff training .. Money for this is meager, for example, the 404th was given 3 billion on the first shout .. Yes, that would be enough money for a couple full-cycle factories both on bridges and boxes from scratch! With the most modern equipment .. Just a wish ..
      RS: But the competent authorities must understand the article who does not want to invest in REAL production in the country .. For example, there are no objections to stadiums and other garbage, but as the most important plant, we cannot afford it, expensive .. Bullshit and sabotage!
      1. 0
        29 March 2020 17: 12
        Quote: max702
        Just a wish ..

        We need a competent tax policy. For example, at least a year exempted new products from taxes. Or, products superior to competitors would be subject to lower taxes. Etc
        1. 0
          29 March 2020 23: 34
          Everything is more complicated and much .. Taxes are such a thing, but the question itself about issuing something materially important and extremely useful for the country is sabotaged in the bud .. This is the main problem ..
  10. +2
    25 March 2020 18: 59
    "The YaMZ motor is produced under a French license." What is it like ? You have to understand that even a normal motor for a truck cannot be developed? If we could, we wouldn't bother with the license and so on. Or are there any reasons not to make your own motor?
    1. +8
      25 March 2020 19: 12
      Of course, we can develop a normal motor for trucks. But there are many "buts" ... First, it becomes much more expensive than the Western analogue localized in our country. If only because you have to additionally beat back development costs. By the way, for such work it will also be necessary to hire engineers from the West to share their "competencies" (as in the case of Aurus). Secondly, why should YaMZ and Ural invest in a project of their own motor? For the Ministry of Defense to purchase? Everything goes to the fact that the plant in Miass will be completely removed from the orders of the military - the lion's share will be given to KamAZ. And in the civilian market "Urals" are excellent buyers with licensed copies of "French", "Chinese" and so on. This is how the free market is slowly killing domestic industries. At least some areas.
      1. -1
        25 March 2020 20: 16
        Quote: Yevgeny Fedorov
        Of course, we can develop a normal motor for trucks. But there are many "but" ...

        While we can.
        If the deadlines and funds are really running out, of course you can put a license, but attracting such practice in the long term can lead to a loss in the quality of our engineering school in the relevant field. And we already have enough stars from the sky ...
      2. -2
        25 March 2020 20: 55
        To stop lying, it’s already about a licensed copy. The motor is completely French, and made in France ... well, localized ... they hung the nameplate ...
      3. +1
        26 March 2020 03: 37
        Quote: Evgeny Fedorov
        The thing is that the plant in Miass will be finally moved away from the orders of the military - they will give the lion's share to KamAZ.

        The market rules ... And it destroys the last thing that once functioned perfectly in the era of the planned economy in the USSR.
        I noticed the tendency of the Urals to "increase", "weight", "help" (here is bent) in search of the market. Didn't the Urals try the other side - "decrease", "relief"? Up to the level of GAZ-66. Indeed, for good reason, there is still no adequate replacement for "shishigi" both in the army and in civilian life.
    2. +1
      25 March 2020 20: 17
      And what's wrong with that? We bought a license and mastered ..... GAS diesel was developed by the Austrians ... it is now in all gazelles, lawns and grooves .... diesel 450ls should still come out. KamAZ also licensed Liebher 450-750l.s ..
  11. +2
    25 March 2020 20: 40
    I don’t know how it was in the USSR. There may have been quality. But now the Urals is a bucket of nuts. If under conditions of exploitation in peacetime everything flies and crumbles, God forbid there will be wartime. There probably the Urals will not come out of the repair
  12. 0
    26 March 2020 07: 16
    Well, finally, they removed the KAMAZ "misunderstanding" from under the hood. In the Far North, during the times of the USSR, they installed YaMZ-236 with Mazov boxes instead of 375s. It was a good car.
  13. +7
    26 March 2020 07: 30
    Quote: Self
    It’s necessary to understand that even a normal motor for a truck cannot be developed

    Sorry! Until optimized! Now the "Zvezda" plant cannot simply translate "blue" into "figure", there is no one. So they post advertisements for hiring draftsmen in recruiting agencies. Design bureaus of motor plants were partly destroyed, partly downsized, and not only of motor factories. Private business is already "clutching its head", there are no designers. Now my generation (50th) will leave and it will be quite "fun". Interrupted the normal practice of the succession of generations of designers. You just need to understand that a computer is a working tool. Boeing has already designed the plane in "automated mode" now raking the jambs of automation. Wanted "effective owners", got it, now slurp a ladle. The West very skillfully destroyed entire industries in our country with the help of our "great liberal" economists, lawyers, journalists and artists. A similar method of enslaving the vanquished was first used by the Persian king Cyrus in relation to the state of Lydia. Nothing new under the moon.
  14. +1
    26 March 2020 11: 10
    Evgeny Fedorov thanks for the article and in general for the entire cycle of articles, I will repeat once again URAL is the most beautiful and cool! IMHO. Let me correct a little in the last paragraph "But that’s all! There is .."In my opinion, you missed the" not "(But that's NOT all). Article class is unambiguous +
  15. +1
    26 March 2020 17: 27
    Uralaz cannot compete with KAMAZ. KAMAZ was built by the whole country and equipment was supplied there from all over the world. And URALAZ is a ZIL transported to war and supplied according to the residual principle. Chinese bridges are being built now, but the Chinese may impose sanctions. And the lines for the production of bridges and drums were built in the late 80s, put into operation in 1995-2000 and have been operating for 20 to 25 years ... Deripaska wanted to build a bridge factory for the entire GAZ group, but 2008 struck, he became suffer losses and the project is forgotten ...
  16. 0
    26 March 2020 19: 02
    Ground troops for supply should receive only the Urals, as well as the Air Force and the Russian Guard. Kamaz needs to be completed with the Navy, Airborne Forces, Marines.
  17. 0
    27 March 2020 08: 53
    Class! The family of PASSERS, no dirt, snow, or terrain are no obstacle for these cars.
  18. 0
    27 March 2020 23: 11
    Kamaz is a much more serious organization, it has 5 times more turnover, 8 times more people work. And usually the higher the series, the lower the price, better quality, the ability to quickly produce a large batch, the prospects for modernization.
  19. 0
    31 March 2020 13: 03
    Hmmm .. Komon Rail fuel system using military equipment ... It is very sensitive to fuel quality and very difficult and expensive to repair.