Comparison of the armed forces of Russia and the United States

March 29 2013 560

For many years, the inflamed minds of the layman are worried about a hypothetical military conflict between the two powers of Russia and the United States. To present the military conflict of these two states in a pure form is almost impossible. It is hardly possible to assume that neighboring states would not be drawn into a military clash between these two countries. In addition, the United States, as a member of NATO, can count, if not on the full support of the alliance, then at least on the support of its main European ally, Britain. However, we will try, nevertheless, to simply analyze what the armies of the two countries can oppose to each other.

The meaning of this confrontation, its reality, as well as the possibility of full-fledged military aggression against Russia with the introduction of US ground forces on its territory, will be left behind the brackets. Information for comparison is taken from open sources, which everyone has access to. Most of the information about the exact number of weapons and troops is secret information, which, if published, is often with delays, which means that the given values may change in a smaller or a larger direction.

The number of armies

A comparison of the military potential of the two powers can be started with the population of the two countries. The population of Russia on 1 January 2013 of the year was 143 347 059 people, the population of the USA for December 2012 of the year - 314 895 000 people. Actually, it is already clear from these figures that in the event of a global war, the United States will be ready to put under the gun much more physically healthy and strong male citizens. The potential mobilization reserve of Russia is estimated at 31 million people, the United States - at 56 million people (if we take into account all males from 17 to 49 years - at least 109 million). At the same time, we must understand that even the United States will not be able to deliver under the gun so many people. For the maintenance of such an army is not enough weapons, ammunition, food, clothing, and transport logistics will turn into a real hell.

Comparison of the armed forces of Russia and the United States

MBT T-90

At the same time, in a war of attrition, it will be much more effective for the United States to make up for its own losses and much longer. At the same time, a professional mobilization reserve simply does not exist in Russia. Currently, work on its creation is only at the beginning of the path. The number of Russian armed forces was brought to 1 million, of whom about 70 are 000 people, and about 300 thousand more are soldiers-conscripts. The US Army is fully professional, its strength is about 1,4 million, and another approximately 1,1-1,3 million people make up the nearest mobilization reserve or reserve. All of them have a valid contract with the Ministry of Defense, are regularly involved in training and combat training and, if necessary, can be called up for active duty.

According to the military doctrine published in 2012, “Supporting US global leadership. 21 Century Defense Priorities The US Army is ready to wage at the same time only 1 a full-scale war, deterring the enemy’s aggressive actions in other regions of the Earth. Previously it was supposed to conduct simultaneously 2-x full-scale wars. Proceeding from this, in the event of military aggression against Russia, the US Army will be able to allocate a large part of its armed forces for these purposes.

Technical equipment of ground forces

The main striking force of the ground forces are Tanks. In service with the US Army as of 2012 there were 1963 Abrams tanks in the M1A2 version, of which 588 were upgraded to the M1A2SEP version. In addition, the US military has about 2400 M1A1 tanks and about 2385 M1 tanks in storage.

MBT "Abrams" М1А2

In the Russian army, the most modern tank is the T-90. In total, in the armed forces there are about 500 such MBT in versions T-90А and T-90АК. That is, a certain parity is observed in the most advanced tanks in the armies of the two countries. At the same time, the Russian army has about 4500 T-80 tanks of various modifications, which are undergoing major repairs (2010 year). Also in the troops and on the bases of storage there is an order of 12 500 T-72 tanks of various modifications. Thus, even if at least a third of these vehicles are on the move, filled up, crews will be planted and ammunition loaded into tanks, their number will surpass the number of American tank fleets. Given that the United States will not be able to deploy all its tanks against Russia, quantitative superiority will be absolute. In terms of the total number of tanks, Russia surpasses the USA by no less than 2,5 times.

Also in service with the US Army is about 6500 BMP "Bradley", in turn, Russia has about 700 BMP-3, 4500 BMP-2 and almost 8000 BMP-1. The fleet of armored personnel carriers in the Russian army is about 4900 units from BTR-70 to BTR-82. It is assumed that before the 2020, all the BTR-80 of the Russian army will be upgraded to the level of the BTR-82A (AM). Also, the Russian Airborne Forces have about 1500 BMD units of all modifications and about 700 BTR-D. There are significantly more armored personnel carriers in the US Army - around 16 000.

SAU MSTA-S

One of the main components of the success of ground operations is still good artillery preparation. Currently, the US Army has an order 2000 SAU and 1500 towed guns. In the Russian army, according to data on 2010, there were more than 6800 ACS and more than 7500 towed guns. Of these, 4600 falls to the X-NUMX-mm howitzer D-122, which will be written off before the end of the 30 year. In addition, Russia has about 2013 MLRS, while in service with the American army of such systems, all 3500. Thus, on paper, the Russian army has superiority over American in self-propelled artillery 830 times, towed in 3,4 (in 5 after decommissioning D-1,9), in the MLRS in 30 times.

At the same time, directly in the states of brigades and military bases in the Russian army there are only about 2500 tanks. Make sure it is not difficult. In the Russian army, the entire 4 individual tank brigades, each of them is armed with the states 91-94 MBT. There are also about 30 individual motorized rifle brigades (I counted only 27, but I could be wrong), each of which has a tank battalion - 41 tank. The remaining tanks are on the bases of storage and repair of military equipment (BHiRVT). The same situation can be projected on the artillery.

SAU M-109

In addition, the army of the two countries have a large number of helicopters. The US Army has combat helicopters around 2700. The Russian army has fewer rotary-wing machines - 1368 units (approximately 2 times less).

Air Force equipment

The US Air Force is a formidable force, in the number of military aircraft they occupy first place in the world. The regular parts of the US Air Force (for 2011) include 144 strategic bombers (66 B-1, 20 B-2 and 58 B-52), 297 A-10 attack aircraft, 1629 fighters (471 - F-15, 968 - F -16, 179 - F-22, 11 F-35). It is worth noting that the United States is the only country in the world that is armed with a 5th generation fighter, we are talking about the F-22 Raptor. In addition, as part of the naval fleet (as of 2008) there were 867 F / A-18 fighter attack aircraft. Total military aircraft excluding those available in reserve - 2937 units.

It is worth noting that the composition of the Russian Air Force is of a secret nature, which means that the information given may contain inaccuracies. The Russian Air Force has 80 strategic bombers (16 - Tu-160, 64 - Tu-95MS), 150 long-range Tu-22M3 bombers, 241 Su-25 attack aircraft, 164 Su-24M and M2 front-line bombers, 26 Su-34 front-line bombers XNUMX. As part of the fighter aviation there are 953 cars (282 - MiG-29, 252 - MiG-31, 400 - Su-27, 9 - Su-30 and 10 - Su-35S). The total composition of combat aircraft is 1614 aircraft (approximately). Thus, in combat aircraft the enemy has about 2-fold superiority.

F-22 Raptor

It is worth noting that at present the Russian Air Force is actively modernizing and rearming. The number of modern aircraft in them will grow, and their own 5 generation aircraft, the PAK FA, will appear. At the same time, in terms of its capabilities, the Su-35C is almost as good as the 5 generation aircraft; the Russian Air Force plans to acquire at least 48 of these machines. Also on the 2012 year, half of the Su-27 was upgraded to the version of the Su-27CM3, and this is, in fact, another machine that is able to deal with all 4 aircraft of the same generation. The MiG-31 interceptors are also being actively upgraded.

In addition, Russian aviation has a trump card up its sleeve. The air-to-air guided missiles of the Russian Air Force have the longest flying range among these types of weapons. The P-73 rocket, which can be used by MiG-31BM fighter-interceptors and Su-27 fighters, Su-35 is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 300 km! In addition, work is underway in Russia on the KS-172 rocket, which has an even greater range of destruction - up to 400 km. And the new missile RVV-BD, at the same time, the medium-range missile RVV-SD has a range of approximately 110 km. The most advanced American all-weather guided missiles AIM-120C7 and AIM-120D are able to hit targets at a distance of 120 and 180 km. respectively.

Su-35С

Su-35, Su-27 and MiG-31BM, equipped with modern radar and missiles R-37 with a greater launch range than any American rocket, allow these machines to significantly reduce their lag even before the most modern American fighter 5-th generation F-22 Raptor, with low visibility. With the F-15, F-16 and F / A-18 fighters they can deal without any problems.

The main trump card of Russia in a possible military conflict, in addition to not the weakest air force, is the country's air defense system, which is able to make the Russian sky inaccessible to the actions of aviation of any potential enemy. And without the support of aviation today it is impossible to conduct any kind of successful combat operations against sufficiently strong ground enemy groupings. Given that the US Army will be forced to fight for bridgeheads and their further expansion at the initial stage of the campaign, such operations without air supremacy will be doomed to failure.

According to the report of the Australian analytical center Air Power Australia, which was a comparison of American military aircraft and Russian air defense systems. In the case of a full-scale military conflict, the possibility of the survival of US air force aviation is almost completely excluded due to the fact that Russian air defense systems: radar systems and anti-aircraft missile systems have reached the highest level of development. Modern Russian air defense systems C-400 have no analogues in the world at all and are far superior to the American Patriot.

C-400

At the same time, the components of the backbone of the Russian air defense systems C-300 are still able to deal with any potential adversary. According to a number of European experts, the Russian air defense system is able to destroy up to 80% of all types of aircraft that have intruded into its airspace. Russian specialists are more modest and estimate this number at 60-65%, but in any case, the enemy aviation will be simply irreplaceable damage, from which it can no longer recover. At 2010, the Russian air defense had about 2100 PU of various types of C-300, C-400 deployed 9 of divisions - 72 of PU, all up to 2020 of the year, it is planned to deploy 56 divisions armed with this complex. In addition, the troops have at least 22 short-range air defense complex - Pantsir-С1.

It is air defense that is the main trump card of Russia and its “umbrella” that will protect the country from possible aggression. Under the defense of air defense before 2020, Russia will be able to significantly upgrade both its ground forces and the air force, which will be replenished with new combat equipment. After 2020, the likelihood of a direct armed conflict between the United States and Russia, which even now seems very unlikely, will drop to almost zero.

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surgeon1997

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30 March 2013 11: 53

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Seaman

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30 March 2013 12: 28

It is not only equipment that fights, but also people. Remember the Second World War, although it was hard!
gregor6549

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30 March 2013 12: 43

The comparison of the US and Russian armed forces presented in the article is more than primitive. How can one, based on a comparison of the number of armed forces, or the performance characteristics of individual types of weapons, draw conclusions about whose armed forces are stronger or weaker? After all, by the beginning of the Second World War, the USSR Armed Forces were an order of magnitude stronger than the Armed Forces of Germany and its allies, both in quantity and quality of weapons, and they also exceeded the German Armed Forces in the number of personnel. But this did not stop the potentially weaker Germany from inflicting severe defeats on the potentially stronger USSR in the first half of the war. So here arithmetic hardly works. It is not enough to have first-class military equipment and weapons. You need a lot more to be stronger than a potential opponent. But this is precisely what the author of the article forgets about.
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  31 March 2013 17: 49
  
  Quote: gregor6549
  After all, by the beginning of the Second World War, the USSR Armed Forces were an order of magnitude stronger than the Armed Forces of Germany and its allies, both in quantity and quality of weapons, and they also exceeded the German Armed Forces in the number of personnel.
  
  Well, where do you get this nonsense from? The Red Army was inferior to the Wehrmacht in all respects, except for the number of outdated light tanks. Germany may have been inferior to the USSR demographically, but the Third Reich and its allies were superior to the USSR by 70 percent, more than one and a half times, and that’s only in terms of people. In industry, Germany was two and a half times superior to the USSR, add here such developed countries as France, Holland, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and that’s not all. But you are right about something else - arithmetic did not work, no advantage helped the Nazis, the Russians turned out to be better than any other European nation (and not European either).
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    April 1 2013 15: 17
    
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: gregor6549
    After all, by the beginning of the Second World War, the USSR Armed Forces were an order of magnitude stronger than the Armed Forces of Germany and its allies, both in quantity and quality of weapons, and they also exceeded the German Armed Forces in the number of personnel.
    
    Well, where do you get this nonsense from? The Red Army was inferior to the Wehrmacht in all respects, except for the number of outdated light tanks. Germany may have been inferior to the USSR demographically, but the Third Reich and its allies were superior to the USSR by 70 percent, more than one and a half times, and that’s only in terms of people. In industry, Germany was two and a half times superior to the USSR, add here such developed countries as France, Holland, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and that’s not all. But you are right about something else - arithmetic did not work, no advantage helped the Nazis, the Russians turned out to be better than any other European nation (and not European either).
    
    In 1941, the Red Army surpassed the Wehrmacht both in the quantity of military equipment (tanks, artillery, air force) and in quality. This is no longer even discussed.
    I'm interested in something else - why doesn't anyone take into account the number of Tamahawks and other American evil spirits? And this garbage can seriously spoil our nerves and various air defense systems and radar systems.
    
    Laughing at the enemy before the war is a bad omen.
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      April 1 2013 17: 20
      
      I completely agree, Victor. Unfortunately, this site is dominated by the spirit of mischief-making and narcissism. Lest the time be repeated again when the intention to defeat the enemy “with little blood and on foreign territory” ended in a lot of blood and innumerable disasters on one’s own territory. The fact that in the end they got to someone else’s, shedding the same rivers of blood, is of little reassurance. It’s good to talk about victory at any cost when you yourself haven’t paid that price. But there are more and more such “talking birds”, alas.
Symbiotos

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30 March 2013 13: 57

I think the war will take place according to the scenario of the development of global chaos, with the aim of creating the preconditions for the legitimization of the world government. It doesn't really matter which country wins. Entering into war is already a defeat. With the current parity, even the winning side will be exhausted and weakened to the limit. Since it is much easier to create chaos than to maintain stability, the world's screenwriters have a good chance of bringing their work to a result that suits them.
The way out: do not counteract the process of chaos, but become one of the helmsmen (for this you need to have power levers) and direct this energy in the direction you need. The civilization (not the country!) that emerges with the least physical and spiritual losses will be the leader of the new world.
progserega

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30 March 2013 15: 19

Quote: ramzes1776
There is unlikely to be a full-scale conflict with the United States. If they fight against us, then with the wrong hands. But here are the variations on the topic: Confrontations between Russia and China .... link http://vk.com/topic-15229571_22230950
At the end of February 201, China will begin large-scale military operations to occupy Siberia, the Far East and Transbaikalia. The main direction of the attack will be Central and Western Siberia, and the secondary ones, in terms of the number of strike forces, will be Primorye, the Far East and Transbaikalia. In the first 24 hours of hostilities, all regions of Transbaikalia, the Far East and Primorye will be under occupation. Fighting will continue for a longer period of time in Central and Western Siberia, but by the end to mid-April, Chinese troops will reach the Ural line. Landing operations at the beginning of the war will occupied Yakutsk and cut the BAM highway, Magadan, Irkutsk and Krasnoyarsk....

Intimidation by the Chinese plays into the hands of the West. As far as I remember history, with the exception of some unpleasant border conflicts with China, there were not many problems. Hundreds of years. China also did not wage wars of conquest. Tibet is a separate issue. Everything else is the wars of conquest between the West and Japan: the long-term opium wars of England, the genocide of the Chinese in Nanjing (by the Japanese). Actually, thanks to us, they were saved.
If we do have geopolitical opponents (unfortunately), it is the West. For hundreds of years, our entire history has been written and rewritten - the war is going on with the West. Rarely with their satellites - Japan.
And China, China is the same victim of Western militarists. And we need to unite with China and together build peace on the planet.
Geokingxnumx

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30 March 2013 15: 45

if a war breaks out between Russia and America, believe me, everyone will lose))
Slavs

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30 March 2013 17: 27

Well, there are doubts about the number of healthy and strong men that the states can put under guns...))) The gun itself does not shoot.... A person shoots from it, and the belligerence of American men may decrease after the first losses, this is already it is known.... In short, there is no need to scare me in advance, but in practice I would not want to find out... Before you attack Russia, read the history... This is not a sport, it will have to be all-out and to the bitter end, there are no weight categories here. .. Well, numbers are always interesting to read, to broaden your horizons...
kostya

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30 March 2013 20: 12

The main thing is not the weapon! and who controls it
Slavs

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30 March 2013 21: 20

Whether the comment is visible or not, someone unsubscribe... Otherwise, in my opinion, I’m in isolation...
rauffg

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30 March 2013 22: 21

Americans understand that it is pointless to go against Russia, at least because of weapons of mass destruction. But there are also a lot of factors, one of them is the mysterious Russian soul (they can’t guess what it is), and the rule of a crowbar, a sledgehammer and some kind of mother makes us invincible.
awerkiev

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30 March 2013 22: 54

As they say, spring will show who shit where!
butmer

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30 March 2013 23: 15

How can you compare the Russian army with an army whose military budget is larger than the entire budget of the NATO countries. Moreover, these are by no means poor countries. And in terms of population, Russia is no longer so far ahead. It is possible to catch up with the Americans in military power only by bringing back the end The 30s, early 40s of the last century with the Stalinist economy completely focused on the army. You need to live within your means and even more with common sense, which is what we Russians lack so much
Udom84

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31 March 2013 13: 39

I hope it doesn't come to war!
stalker

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31 March 2013 14: 33

The Amers will never attack us openly and these are not their methods first, they fight on the sly, by proxy, with underdeveloped countries
VADEL

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31 March 2013 16: 51

The numbers are interesting, but it is not reasonable to compare the potentials of an anthill and a beehive.
Strashila

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31 March 2013 20: 54

Actually, what to compare...
For starters, we have an equipped border... that's right, no.
Come in from any direction... North and Asia are just a passing yard.
Americans draw conclusions... Libya and Syria, why go after it yourself if you can just finance... 15 million gastric migrants, a ready army, many with combat experience.
The country's leadership is doing something with the economy that even potential occupiers are jealous of, they didn't even think about it... that it's possible.
Transfer troops... wait... the railway is in the hands of a private owner... any tension in the country is a gold mine... sabotage from the Cypriot owners is guaranteed, including the energy sector, etc.
Additional destruction in management will be caused by the Golden Donkey, but this is dust... considering that most of the so-called leaders will rush to Andongrad and other foreign raspberries to save everything stolen by back-breaking labor, the army and navy will be left without control.
Considering that Amers controls 100% of drug supplies to Russia, it would not be surprising if there was a share of chemicals there... and horror films about bloodthirsty zombies would become a reality.
The progressive blue intelligentsia will add chaos by standing up for the oppressed drug addicts and gastricians when they begin to be crushed for what they have done.
This is what is left in the bottom line, if anything remains and needs to be compared.
Mr. Truth

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April 1 2013 03: 04

I'm a little tired of these types of topics. The American Army will not be able to cope with Russian ground forces without a coalition. They are a pathetic shadow of their pre-2007 selves.
Permission

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April 1 2013 08: 27

The author of the article is a crab.
How can you compare the military potential of the United States and Russia on the basis of the Air Force and, especially, ground forces? I will tell the author a terrible secret. There is an ocean between our countries. True true.
And the fleet will have a decisive role here. Which we have historically, let’s say, in the sirloin part.

We do not have a land border with the United States. And all your planes and tanks will be destroyed - a pile of metal. We do not have a strong fleet, in particular aircraft carriers, therefore we do not have the means to deliver these tanks and aircraft to enemy territory.
I’m already silent, if such a war starts, what will happen in the end? The United States is overseas, with friendly Canada and neutral Mexico on its borders. And we have? Yes, all of Europe, Turkey and all sorts of Georgian-Azerbaijani pugs will immediately attack us like a pack of dogs.

Meanwhile, the United States will calmly and methodically cut down our rickety Navy and will just as calmly bomb us, bringing all its 22 aircraft carriers to the borders. But Great Britain has 7 more. 5 for France.

And against all this there is one light aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov.

In the meantime, our tanks and planes will get bogged down in border conflicts with all sorts of Swedish-Germans, which will make it easier for the United States to cut down our air defense and destroy infrastructure. And only then, they will calmly bring and unload their 500 Abrams and that will be enough for them.

SO a war with the USA can only take the form of mutual nuclear exterminatus. We have no chance in a conventional war.
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  April 1 2013 16: 10
  
  Quote: Permission
  22 aircraft carriers. But Great Britain has 7 more. 5 for France.
  
  Nurse! Bring this one out!
  Here is the link to download Military Balance 2012
  http://rghost.ru/44946794
  Don't joke like that anymore.
Hort

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April 1 2013 11: 20

By the way, such a war will still be very difficult for us in terms of the balance of resources. All of Europe and Canada are plowing for the amers. It’s trite, in terms of food supply we are losing...
redwar6

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April 1 2013 14: 47

There is still gunpowder in the flasks, which is good news.
xomaNN

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April 1 2013 17: 06

I really want to believe in the positive :))
princess

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April 1 2013 17: 47

Russia is invincible!!! This has already been proven many times. Our people fought in World War II in felt boots with holes in them, and in sweatshirts with one rifle between three, and did not give up their homeland to the enemy (our children, wives, mothers), and we will not give it up. And things are much better now in terms of armament. Power is in the truth! And lying amers only poison the lives of other peoples, so they have no chance.
akendrama

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April 1 2013 17: 58

I wonder who gave the minus to the article?
brush

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April 1 2013 22: 25

Quote: rodevaan
Quote: Atrix
Patriotism in the USA is much stronger than in the countries of the former USSR. I don’t even want to argue, how often do you fly your country's flag on the street?
And many, in the event of a real war, will drop everything and go to defend their homeland and loved ones instead of going to hell?

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Think for yourself - could a fat amer even think of shielding a machine gun at a critical moment in order to complete the task and help out his comrades? I think there won’t be a single one like that among the most “democratized” army. To hang flags on the porch - yes, we are patriots no matter what - but when it comes down to it, we save our ASSES! I’m not slandering things, I just really don’t know of such examples in the West!

Where else have you seen such people and such dedication? There are no such places anywhere else. And some here are also going to compare our patriotism with Western “chocolate hares”, ignoramuses!

What other machine gun should I throw myself at? Have you ever seen how a machine gun hits in real life? I haven’t seen it, but you’re teaching someone here such “feats”, that’s mine. A machine gun throws a body at least three meters if a person is in motion, or even more. This is all lousy propaganda about Matrosov and his 300 followers.
brush

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April 1 2013 22: 47

I gave it a minus only because articles like this make people’s heads paint enemies out of nowhere. The States don't need anything right now.

Another question is if Russia itself invades foreign territory, for example, in Europe. But then there will be a nuclear strike from the three, and little will seem mutual.
What if they abandon nuclear weapons worldwide? , then of course there are bombings and bombings at night. First of all, NATO attacks air defense and airfields with winged ones. Well, then on to economic objects. On Russia's side are Belarus, Venezuela and Nicaragua. On the NATO side, the list is too lazy to write. Central Asia, Transcaucasia, Ukraine aside.
And most importantly sanctions!!!
Region65

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April 2 2013 05: 38

Article from the next series of the series "Kozyulka" Grup "nursery" ... The USA people have so many people, but we have so much ... where is the fact that "citizens" who came in to the USA, nigers, semi -demonigers, Arabs and so on, will he stand up in arms to protect the Fed and the Rockefeller clan? Yes, this will not happen. In the event of a war, China, Iran, and so on will stand on Russia’s side in every possible way.. how many Chinese and Arabs are there in the USA? to hell.. and more, so that in this regard, the United States will get a gigantic internal hemorrhoid. Considering that there are practically no armed forces on the territory of the United States itself :))))) further - all the equipment in the US Army, just like ours, is “m”, that is, modernized , there are, of course, isolated samples of new weapons, just like we also have them here and there, further, oh author, you are our greatest military expert - how short your memory is. Where is your NATO and the USA in Libya? such a small state is barely defeated (I’m already silent about Iraq, which, even with 15% of the resistance (the rest of the generals sold their souls for a green piece of paper and did not participate in the resistance), the army resisted for a long time) there were not enough consumables for new weapons, everyone borrowed from Germany... Will the US and NATO have enough consumables to defeat Russia? no, it won’t be enough :)))))0 considering that China (a potential ally of Russia) has the American economy by the balls, Russia supplies the United States with oil))) well, is it really possible to bite off the hands that feed this spinner? :)))) and how will he fight then? wells in Texas produce only one ton of oil per day... probably the Americans will have to convert their equipment to pea gases. By the way, a map for thought
Are the US capable of resisting on THEIR territory...? no... US military bases... they are everywhere, but they are not in the USA itself
sprocket2008

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April 2 2013 09: 05

What the hell is this about 1 million? Russia's army? 300 thousand is still missing
Shoma-1970

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April 2 2013 16: 47

Quote: Gari
Sorry, I forgot about the blue division, although there’s no longer a division

646 same-sex couples live in the United States, 464 of whom are married. These are the data published by the US Bureau of Statistics.
According to the Associated Press, on the basis of five surveys, Gary Gates concludes that about 4 million supporters of same-sex love live in the States. That is, about 1,7% of Americans 18 years and older.
Mr. Gates considers another 4 million Americans to be bisexual. 19 million (8,2%), according to his estimates, at least once made love with a partner of their gender.

Transgender people in the United States turned out to be 700 thousand (0,3%).

May God grant that there will be 100% same-sex marriages in the USA!
Edward

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April 2 2013 19: 08

Quote: ramzes1776
In the first 24 hours of hostilities, all regions of Transbaikalia, the Far East and Primorye will be under occupation...

....At the end of April, Kamchatka and Chukotka will be captured by airborne operations. The pace of offensive operations will be quite high, from 200 to 500 km per day, which is explained by the absence of Russian troops in the directions of the main attacks of the Chinese army, ready to provide any serious resistance....

Oh well)
How do you like a miner with a shovel alongside a Zeka, Old Believers of all faiths and other good residents? This is not counting the Russian Armed Forces, which are still present in these regions!
Believe me, the officials have long known that it is better for them to conquer the Russian Federation from Moscow.

I'm not showing off. No no.
aybulat

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April 2 2013 21: 15

Why not a word about the fleet? Is the US superiority there seemingly overwhelming?
gregor6549

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April 3 2013 06: 13

I'll add another five cents.
The authors of many articles on this site and their overly enthusiastic readers constantly talk about what kind of war between the USA and Russia, and even more so about victory in such a war.
Both the United States and Russia already have such vigorous power that any attempt by either side to unleash a full-scale war between these countries can only end in the mutual destruction of each other and, at the same time, the majority of the population of all other countries?
Both countries have more than enough potential for this. And the military-political leadership of both the United States and Russia understood this very well before and understands it now. Moreover, the United States has already had so much to drink from the recent “local” wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. that the question has long been not about how to win those wars, but how to get out of them “without losing face.”
Further. Considering that the families of many VIPs in Russia have long lived in two countries and keep their money in banks of the United States or its allies, all talk about a war with America is nothing more than moth-eaten propaganda pulled out of their grandmother’s chests in the hope of somehow consolidating what they have taken to the skin. population, to “promote” the exalted youths in order to enlist their support and remove unpleasant questions like “Where is the money, Zin?” from the agenda.
The intention not to unnecessarily anger the Armed Forces, which may ultimately force them to answer this question and similar questions at gunpoint, also plays an important role. But such intentions matured in the army environment in the dashing 90s, especially among those who were thrown out with their families from settled and comfortable military camps in Germany, etc. places in "family tents" under the rainy sky of Belarus. I myself had the opportunity to sit in such tents and be present in the presence of very disloyal “conversations” of gentlemen officers. We must give credit to Putin that he has realized this problem and is trying to mitigate it to the best of his ability. Who wants to sit on a “powder keg”?
Romn

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April 3 2013 13: 23

Yes, at least we can run over everyone with tanks, we have a lot of them, that’s good!))
savastyanov

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April 3 2013 15: 32

The Russians cannot be broken!!
CAPILATUS

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April 3 2013 16: 55

Author, maybe they would first check the data on the Air Force from open sources before scaring people? :)
Here are the data from the official websites of the US Air Force and Navy:

A-10
in service - 187
in reserve - 49

F-15
in service - 249

F-16
in service - 1018

F/A-18
in service - 240 (A/S/SN - 168, D - 72)
Spike

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April 4 2013 20: 12

It's all right on paper...
Slavka

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April 21 2013 10: 08

Quote: ben05
I could not plyusanut, and so off!

I'm joining!!! Cool topic!)))
Alex Marsh

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3 August 2013 19: 50

I want to be impartial.
1) The author did not mention the balance of forces in nuclear missile weapons, the balance of forces in the navy, and also did not mention how much money the United States and Russia spend on their military programs.
2) The author somehow casually mentioned that in Russia there is a conscript army for a period of 1 year, and in the USA the army is voluntary, for 4 years. How much can an 18 year old guy learn in 1 year? Also in recent years, the United States has had many hot spots, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. Accordingly, the US Army has the experience of modern warfare. The Russian army has practically no experience of modern warfare, except for the conflict with Georgia and the Chechen warriors. By “experience of a modern warrior” I mean the use of modern weapons, communications systems, and logistics in combat conditions.
3) Before the war with Russia, the United States will increase its ground and air forces to the required quantity, this is obvious.

But let's imagine a real conflict. Let's not simplify and reduce everything to Russia-USA. So, US forces are known. Who will fight again? You can be absolutely sure that Great Britain will join the war. The British ground forces are armed with 345 tanks; PA guns – 266, MLRS – 42 and mortars – 2; ATGM – 563; SAM launchers – 900; armored combat vehicles - 253; combat helicopters - 2 units. http://www.opoccuu.com/uk-army.htm Immediately after the start of the war, mobilization will begin in the armies of the US and Great Britain, there will be much more forces. Don't forget that both countries speak English, which makes joint operations easier. Also, most likely, Poland will join the war with pleasure. France, Italy, Germany, and other European Union countries may refrain from joining the war, but will certainly send expeditionary forces. Don’t forget about Japan, which has claims against Russia in the Far East. Russia will inevitably have to keep troops there.

Who will fight for Russia? Yes, by and large, no one. China will probably remain on the sidelines and monitor the development of situations. We’ll keep silent about every little thing like China or Cuba. Perhaps Belarus will fight for Russia.

Poland will allow any American forces to be stationed on its territories. By putting proper pressure on the Baltic states, Turkey and Georgia, you can be sure that US troops will be deployed there too. With Ukraine it’s a little more complicated; after all, it’s close to Russia. But in my opinion, Ukraine will break and allow troops of allied countries to be stationed on its territory. Or it will be captured.

So what do we have in total? In 1941, Germany had eastern Europe, Finland, and Italy as its allies. The German army was inferior to the Soviet in the number of forces, and in the tank forces and artillery the USSR had superiority in quality. T-3, T4 against T-34 and KV. Unlike Germany, the United States will have a quantitative superiority over Russia in terms of the number of weapons, perhaps except for tanks. And economically, the United States is tens of times larger than Germany. The US doesn't have a problem with oil, it doesn't have a problem with factory capacity, the US has more people. In addition, the United States can count on the support of the entire West, political, economic, and military. Before the war, the United States will probably triple a lot of sabotage in Russia, for example, they will turn off Microsoft on which many civilian objects are located, or American military hackers will spoil everything that can be spoiled, in order to create chaos. After this, ground forces will begin an offensive from the Baltic states and Poland to Moscow, from Turkey and Georgia to the Caucasus.

In general, modern Russia cannot survive in a war with the United States.
1. tilovaykrisa
  
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  3 August 2013 20: 35
  
  The USA is already dying without a war, another 10 years of agony and then decay and degradation, who will fight?
  Besides, you are a rare warrior... but it’s not for you to bomb Papuans with impunity, even during the Iraq war, deserters fled to Canada and pilots pretended to have diarrhea so as not to fly out, and you say you can’t survive, fighting is not for you to eat hamburgers fat asses.
  1. Alex Marsh
    
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    4 August 2013 13: 52
    
    I live in the USA, and I see from the inside what is really happening. There is a crisis in the USA as well as throughout the world, but it is much easier than the Great Depression in the 30s. The fact that Russian soldiers are good warriors who stand to the end - tell this to the regular Red Army that surrendered to the Germans in the summer of 1941. The Russian soldier is an absolutely ordinary soldier. In short, I gave you numbers, and you gave me emotions. This once again proves that I am right.
    1. sscha
      
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      4 August 2013 14: 19
      
      ONE OF THE MAIN SIDES OF SUCCESSFUL COMBAT OPERATIONS IS THE PERSONAL MOTIVATION OF EACH SOLDIER. BUT THIS IS THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA. HOW DO YOU MEASURE MOTIVATION IN NUMBERS? WILL YOU ALSO ARGUE WITH HISTORY? WHERE ARE ALL THESE "HITLERS"?
      "NAPOLEONS" AND OTHER PERSONALITIES? AND RUSSIA IS HERE IT IS.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        
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        4 August 2013 14: 23
        
        So it is, but on their side there are legions of combat aces who want to make everyone else like them or destroy them, so the enemy cannot be underestimated.
    2. tilovaykrisa
      
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      4 August 2013 14: 26
      
      If you can’t wait for the enemy, your soldiers are the most stubborn in the world, all you can do is bomb the Papuans, even in local conflicts deserters flee to Canada, who will fight the Mex or what? A nation of degenerates is capable of starting a war, but it will be ended by a great people, not a bunch of fags, and about the Red Army, learn the history of an ignoramus before writing nonsense.
      what numbers did you give? the ones that the zombie guy told you? Our numbers are different.
      What do you see? Are you serving? then tell me where? Another immigrant currying favor with his new homeland?
      And your allies are the same, the only real warriors are Jews, but they always have their own reason for everything.
      
      In short, of course, it’s all emotions, but you’re just saying stupidity, if you’ve already been given the shit, then the Koreans fucked you, then the Vietnamese, the Afghans, the Iraqis, and this despite the fact that you’re like a superpower. What kind of victory are you talking about?
      1. Alex Marsh
        
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        4 August 2013 15: 21
        
        Relax))) Even many other Russians on this site (living in Russia) write that the US Army has a strong fighting spirit, and you...At least give me 100 minuses, you speak with cliches, and not when you have not seen Americans , and even more so in a warrior. Once upon a time, I thought like you, but when I came to America I changed my mind, because I see Americans every day. I saw how the American police work. I went to the gym for 1 year, saw a lot of sports and trained Americans. And now, by the way, these are not the times; personal heroism is in any case not enough. Technology decides everything, and the further into the future we go, the more and more warriors are led by technology. So the one with the best technique wins. And in the Russian army, the equipment is at the level of the 70-80s, basically, new weapons are not present in very large quantities. For example, T-72 tanks. They are still there from the times of the USSR. This junk is not capable of fighting the new NATO tanks on equal terms. But there are not enough new T-90s, and there are not sufficient production capacities for their rapid production. I was at the Chelyabinsk tank plant (to the museum), but are there many such factories? Are there a lot of resources? During the war with Germany, the USSR made purchases of resources in the West - where will Russia buy them now? and at what cost, because the resource market will be seriously reduced. In short, you are full of fluff and jingoistic patriotism.
alone

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4 August 2013 15: 32

I’m reading this and wondering, does everyone really think that the war between the USA and Russia will be like the Second World War? They press the buttons and that’s it. no tanks or infantry)) especially LGBT
1. Alex Marsh
  
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  4 August 2013 15: 44
  
  All debaters proceed from the fact that the war will still be fought without nuclear weapons.
  1. alone
    
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    4 August 2013 15: 51
    
    wait and see
Russia-Motherland

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4 August 2013 16: 06

Friends, you cannot compare Russia with America. We were brought up with a DUTY TO THE HOMELAND AND OUR PEOPLE, and the Americans, under the guise of protecting the interests of America, fight only for money. My grandfather served God, the Tsar and the Fatherland! And I served my PEOPLE AND RUSSIA!!!
1. Alex Marsh
  
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  4 August 2013 16: 22
  
  You don't know America))
2. mvkot120669
  
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  1 September 2013 21: 56
  
  Nonsense......"Die for the sake of the country"...Now why die? By the way, the Americans never abandoned their soldiers....unlike us...
  1. mvkot120669
    
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    1 September 2013 22: 10
    
    And if you take an interest in “America”, you will discover a Paradox - the children of their millionaires THEMSELVES went to the War and themselves, now, serve in the Army... Draw an analogy with Russia....
Larus

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4 August 2013 16: 34

Another question is that in the event of a major war, will we be able to launch the production of military equipment at factories to replenish and replace destroyed equipment....
1. mvkot120669
  
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  1 September 2013 21: 55
  
  WE HAVE NO INDUSTRY....NO PERSONNEL...
mvkot120669

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1 September 2013 21: 39

The origins of “Strong Air Defense” lie in the weakness of Soviet (!!!!!!!!!!!!) Aviation... I don’t even understand what kind of Sage wrote this article! Still upside down! It was the development of air defense that was the USSR’s response to the lag in Aviation....
Regarding “can destroy up to 80% of aircraft” it’s completely nonsense! Where are the intruders? Do planes have to enter the air defense zone to strike? Rave! In addition, our air defense has such HOLES (and no one hides this) that it’s funny to talk about some %..
Now the head of the Su Design Bureau says “our newest fighters are “4+” - objectively they do not reach “5”... The author says the OVERHEAD!!!!!!!!! At the same time he mentions something that is not there - Russian fighters " 5" which are NOT!
In short, the article COMPLETELY SUCKS!
MKONJIN

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18 September 2013 11: 58

Comparing the armies of Russia and the United States is a strange task, in principle, they are superior in the number of military equipment: in the Air Force they have more aircraft, their fleet is three times more powerful, they have 10 aircraft carriers alone (11 are under construction), Russia, for example, has none at all there is no aircraft carrier (there is some kind of aircraft-carrying cruiser), and why should we when we don’t even have that many planes? Another thing is how will they be able to use all their military power against Russia? As for rearmament, even after it, Russia will be inferior to the US army, because the United States wants to dominate the world and resolve global military conflicts (and this is very costly), Russia has more modest regional goals.
I think a war between the United States and Russia is impossible, and not because even though both have nuclear weapons, we do not have a common border, and it will be impossible to coordinate with our allies and transfer troops to our territory (since we supply Europe with energy resources, etc.) China is different the thing is, here everything can be very dangerous, a common border with such a growing and numerous neighbor is of course annoying.
GrandsonSvarog

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April 20 2014 11: 49

The article is impressive and gives confidence in the future...
Plamya77

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7 June 2014 23: 22

Everything on the topic. Interesting. Many thanks to the author. However, the numbers are a little out of date today.
Khazar

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27 July 2014 23: 49

There is no sense in the vaunted superiority of the Amers in the air http://suavia.info/page/88/. Our fighters and attack aircraft cut them to pieces.
511

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1 November 2014 16: 20

The Americans have long wanted to take over Russia, but they are not fools, they know that they will lose any open war to us. Yes, those who met with soldiers in the peacekeeping forces saw that ours alone is worth 10 amers. But since they are not stupid people, they starve them out. ..they fight against the weak, with the wrong hands, and their main weapon is the dollar, they look for corrupt people and buy them, that is, they take them from within, ruining and pitting the people against each other. You don’t have to look far for an example. But I don’t see a single country enslaved by them.
bahitovarysk

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4 October 2015 15: 41

Napoleon said that in war physical strength plays only 25%, and psychological 75%. In Russia we believe that Russia, our army is invincible, in Western countries, the EU, that Russian drunkards playing the balalaika are not true. The West will inevitably fight with someone else's forces. For example: Europe. There are more people in the USA than in Russia. But we forgot that the main thing is not the army, but the general. But if Russia begins to defeat the United States, it may use nuclear weapons. In a nuclear war, we will defeat the West because we have more nuclear warheads and each one is located throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.
historic

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5 October 2015 22: 54

The best teacher is history. Unfortunately, everything in the history of the USSR was not so fabulous. Even before the Second World War, the USSR attacked Finland, which had practically no army. The losses were terrible and even those hundreds of thousands of prisoners whom the Finns released disappeared without a trace in the USSR (rotted in the mines Well, everyone knows about Poland; first, together with the Germans, they defeated and held a parade in Brest. With the beginning of the war, all the armored vehicles from the incompetent leadership fell to the Germans (Minsk Cauldron), near Kiev everything happened again and when the German looked through binoculars at Moscow, there were none in our army aviation in general, and about 1700 tanks, and more of them were repaired than they fought. The Germans accumulated about 3 million of our prisoners!!! And only thanks to the powerful economy of the USA and Great Britain, they managed to quickly arm the Soviet army, and the famous order of Stalin (family to Siberia, for the captivity of a relative and machine guns behind them) helped to “raise the patriotic” spirit of the soldiers, although heroism cannot be denied to Soviet soldiers either. The state of affairs was changed by the construction of conveyor factories by American engineers and made it possible to produce an incredible number of aircraft and tanks. For comparison, more than 34 T-105s were produced before the end of the war, while only more than 000 Tigers, etc. Now all this is kept silent, the merits of others It doesn't suit us.
In the post-war period, the USSR did not have nuclear weapons and the world became quiet, but as soon as a nuclear bomb was stolen in the USA and a hydrogen one was created, conflicts immediately arose in Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.
But there was a coup in the USSR, their own tanks went around Moscow, they were shooting at the government house, everyone was confused, the army collapsed like a house of cards, the generals were waiting for who would win and selling everything, even slabs from strategic airfields. For some reason the West did not attack, but Instead, Boeing brought one and a half billion dollars to Moscow, so that a civil war would not break out inside us. They are interested in changing our government to a democratic one, and they are afraid of war both in America and in Europe. They are surprised how it is possible with such abundance natural resources to have such a low standard of living, they feel sorry for the Russian people, because we sell to everyone, but we have nothing except missiles and tanks. We buy a combine, a car, any equipment from the bourgeoisie and they don’t refuse, just don’t fight. If we don’t know how to do this to do, then let them fill up the roads. No, there is no money, there is no money for anything... only for tanks to protect the government. And the protection is questionable if a plane lands on Red Square and a meteorite falls along a ballistic trajectory (like a ballistic missile) and the military learns about it from the news.
This is our history, unfortunately, in brief. We will not remember the details, but only the numbers; in peacetime, the Bolsheviks destroyed more than 35 million of their people (the most terrible epidemic of bubonic plague, more than 20 million around the world), died in the war under the “wise leadership of the government 28 million, while the same Germans are no more than 3 million and can hardly be called defeated. Whoever wants to agree with such a structure for the whole world, God our merciful God forbid!
Witness 45

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17 July 2017 23: 31

Quote: cruisetur
But agree; WE HAD A HAIR FROM DEATH (I had heard enough of the stories of PARTICIPANTS of that war)

Well, I discovered America, in any fierce life-or-death conflict, both sides always stand or hang on the brink of death, but the weaker dies and the stronger wins.
vasilkovichi

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11 January 2018 12: 22

The pack is good, encouraging and inspiring hope that the cowardly and thieving Americans will not dare to attack such power. I am sure that ours will not rest on their laurels and stop there. But if the Americans finally go crazy and attack, we must not forget that the flag over the white house will be hoisted not by a rocket or an airplane, but by an infantryman’s bayonet! So it was, is and will be. The rest are means of defense, attack, support and delivery. Our main weapon is SPIRIT!