New transfer: what awaits GLONASS in the future

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Endure until December


Difficulties and problems plague the Russian satellite constellation, which, on the whole, is completely natural given its complexity and the situation that has developed in relations between the West and the Russian Federation.





And yet it requires a more detailed consideration. 15 October RIA "News”, Citing a source in the space and rocket industry, it was reported that the launch of the Glonass-M navigation satellite from Plesetsk planned for November was postponed to December 2. “The launch was postponed to December 2,” the source said, without specifying, however, the reason for this decision. Recall that they previously wanted to use the Soyuz-2.1b rocket with the Frigate booster block as a carrier: most likely, they will be used in the end.

In principle, there is nothing of the kind in postponing missile and space launches: this is a common phenomenon that can be seen both in the United States and Russia, and even in China, which is now the leader in the number of missile launches. Another thing is interesting.

New generation


This launch would be very useful, because due to technical failures, malfunctions and the expiration of operational terms, some GLONASS satellites are out of order, while others are close to completing their careers for the benefit of the Russian Federation.

The fact that the position of the system was frankly distressing became especially clear in August of this year, when the Glonass-M spacecraft with 745 number became the third satellite of the group, launched in August for temporary maintenance. Then TASS reported that for its intended purpose the 21 GLONASS satellite is used, while for guaranteed global coverage it is necessary to have 24 working satellites.

In the same month, it became known that more than half of the GLONASS spacecraft operate outside the warranty period. In practice, this means that you can expect from them anything but high reliability.

What is the reason for this state of affairs? As we can see, in November of this year, they had to launch Glonass-M, a satellite of the old design, which remained unaffected. This, of course, is not the first generation, whose estimated service life was three years (which is very small), but still. The guaranteed seven-year period of active existence clearly does not color Glonass-M, especially when you consider that the lifetime of the third-generation American GPS satellite is fifteen.

However, the main problem for GLONASS is not the nominal lifetime of spacecraft, but the fact that these spacecraft are not commonplace. Previously, Glonass-M was created to replace Glonass-K, which consists of 90% of Western electronic components. Now, due to conflicts with the West, Glonass-K has become a part of stories: In total, two such vehicles were put into orbit.



The compulsory successor was Glonass-K2, which, as previously stated, would be “Russian”. On June 28 on June 2018, GLONASS General Designer Sergey Karutin announced that the development of the GLONASS-K2 satellite had been completed, but since then no launch of this type of device had followed.

The problem, perhaps, lies in the constant reforms of the rocket and space industry: including the uncertainties with the carriers used. “Due to the fact that the operation of Proton heavy rockets is being completed, the use of Angara rockets has not yet begun, and Soyuz rockets can put into orbit only one Glonass-M or Glonass-K device,” the decision to make small vehicles weighing up to 500 kilograms. In this case, Soyuz will be able to launch three spacecraft into orbit at once, ”a source in the rocket and space industry said in April this year.



This is more than an interesting statement. It turns out that already after the completion of the development of a new generation apparatus was announced, it suddenly “turned out” to be too big. And this despite the fact that, as noted above, updating the satellite constellation is required today.

Perhaps, I had in mind the promising Glonass-KM, whose launches they want to carry out starting from about the second half of the 2020's. However, in the light of current events, I don’t really want to even remember about this project.

Overseas will not help


Most likely, the problem is not even in the media, but in the fact that the country was completely unprepared to replace Western electronics with its own.

“The defense industry also has other problems, both inherited from the Soviet past, and that have appeared relatively recently. The main of those that arose during the USSR is the elemental base. Remember the joke that our chips are the largest in the world? Since the time of the USSR, things haven’t been good with the element base, ”Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, wrote in October of this year.

“And the short-term cooperation with the USA in the 1990's, including on the ISS, when we were willingly selling electronics for both space and defense, it was finally ruined. Then they imposed sanctions on Russia, blocked the faucet - and we were left without radio electronics at all. ”


Most likely, the specialist is right if not on 100, then on 90%. Now, without cooperation with other countries, and especially Western countries, it is simply impossible to develop the space industry. Unless, of course, you are China, which has long been “all taken.” So we will hear about new plans, new ideas and, of course, new postponements.



However, the situation can be seen from the other side. In recent years, Russia has acquired conditional allies who are interested in new developments. “GLONASS, of course, interests everyone very much - the Gulf countries are extremely interested in GLONASS and the location of ground stations. Since, apparently, the geopolitical situation has changed so much in the region, it is hardly possible to rely on GPS alone, ”said Dmitry Rogozin, head of the Russian space department, in October this year.

It is difficult to say how much the same Saudi Arabia or Kuwait (more likely American allies than Russian) will want to invest in GLONASS. In any case, Russia has its own petrodollars, and it needs technologies that even the richest states in the Persian Gulf do not possess.

If events developed in 90, the Russian satellite navigation system could be developed together with China. However, now China has everything to move in this direction itself. It already has its own Beidou satellite system, and not so long ago, the PRC announced that it had put into orbit the device, which is "the most high-tech in the field of satellite navigation." At the same time, the Chinese portal Sohu wrote earlier that the Russian system "Paralyzed"and US GPS is Beidou’s only competitor. At the same time, the Chinese did not miss the opportunity to declare that the American system also has flaws: it supposedly quickly becomes obsolete. Even if we take the words of Chinese journalists on faith, GLONASS will not get any easier.
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  1. +7
    25 October 2019 06: 51
    So that the Chinese and others do not speak, but it is hard to believe that we, for the sake of our "friendship", are giving them a national early warning system. Something important to us, they will have to pay. And simply by supplying components, such a thing cannot be recouped. It's time for us to give up the practice of self-flagellation and pulling on Russia the image of "Ivan the Fool".
    1. +18
      25 October 2019 16: 05
      China is pulling the last secrets of the former USSR not only from Ukraine, but also from Russia itself, but Russian "hurray-patriots" consider it a betrayal of the transfer of Mriya technology to China, but the technologies of over-the-horizon early warning radars transferred by Putin to China are correct and corresponds to the spirit of cooperation.
      Why don't they make the Proton carrier rocket anymore ... "Effective manager" Rogozin says that "Proton" is terribly unenvironmental. But the harsh truth lies elsewhere - "Proton" was produced in the State Research and Production Space Center named after M.V. Khrunichev, at a plant located in Moscow, in the Filyovskaya floodplain ... And this plant, "effective managers" of Putin decided to demolish, and sell more than 100 hectares of land for the construction of another "cheloveinnik"! It’s not good, they say, on the golden Moscow land, to stand this remnant of the "bloody scoop"! Formally, the plant is being moved to Omsk, but judge soberly, who from Moscow will go to work in Omsk ??? That's right, no one ... Therefore, astronautics is slowly becoming a thing of the past in the history of Russia.
      1. 0
        26 October 2019 01: 25
        K174 ... K176 ... they made "Splav" at Zavada - Khabarovsk .... like 93 years old ... but I was there in practice ... and they were already made, God knows how many
    2. +1
      25 October 2019 21: 01
      And there was a time when the bourgeois studied the reverse engineering by gradually removing the layers of the microcircuit. I can’t pretend to say which particular series I got later, I read that K174 thus got on the conveyor.
      1. -5
        25 October 2019 23: 32
        Quote: Ural-4320
        And there was a time when the bourgeois studied the reverse engineering by gradually removing the layers of the microcircuit. I can’t pretend to say which particular series I got later, I read that K174 thus got on the conveyor.


        K174 is the end of the 70s, the beginning of the 80s.
        Nazarov V. HF receiver on the IMS series K174 II Radio, - 1981, No. 3.—S. 27-29.
        Nazarov V. VHF receiver on microcircuits and Radio, -1982, - No. 7, - P. 29, 30.
        Two amplifiers on microcircuits. Radio, —1980, No. 9. — S. 58.
        Integrated Circuits of the K174 Series: Catalog.— M.: Central Research Institute "Electronics", 1981, no. 1.— 68 s

        What was the manufacturing process there?
        3-1,5 microns ... ????

        And the last 10 years - already 28 - 05 nm ...

        By 3 orders of magnitude there is already a difference in the manufacturing process.
        What kind of reverse engineering can we talk about ...
        1. 0
          27 October 2019 14: 50
          This saddens us: we cannot develop new ones by ourselves normally, and old methods of study have been successfully forgotten.
  2. +5
    25 October 2019 07: 55
    21 GLONASS satellites are used for their intended purpose

    Extreme data such -

    https://www.glonass-iac.ru/GLONASS/index.php
  3. +5
    25 October 2019 09: 13
    Space electronics are radiation-resistant microcircuits. Their topological dimensions are large enough for our microelectronics to handle. Materials needed. KNS, gallium nitride on sapphire, etc.
    Unfortunately, these materials are hardly produced in Russia. Although their production has recently been growing ... Money is allocated to this sector ... They will win soon.
    1. Alf
      0
      26 October 2019 20: 01
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Money is allocated to this sector ..

      It’s good, it’s just wonderful. But the question is, will the microchips themselves be released or do people need this? But somehow it’s not really with people, modern youth does not want to go to factories, it’s better to get another lawyer-manager-manager.
  4. 0
    25 October 2019 10: 59
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Space electronics are radiation-resistant microcircuits. Their topological dimensions are large enough for our microelectronics to handle.


    Amateur Question:
    But you can’t protect ordinary microcircuits? Cover them with cast iron lids, for example? Roll in lead? )))
    1. +1
      25 October 2019 11: 07
      Quote: DimosA
      Roll in lead? )))

      The note says that the satellite does not fit onto the media anyway. The orbit of Glonas is high, it requires a heavy cord, and this is either a Proton, which is already gone, or a hangar 3-5, which is not yet.
    2. +11
      25 October 2019 11: 26
      The answer is definitely possible.
      Moreover, in 2015, the Izhevsk plant began to be commissioned, which was involved in the packaging of industrial components for space applications. The chips were enclosed in a sealed enclosure where argon or noble gas was pumped. The body was scalded using electron beam welding technology. One of the main problems - on the resulting design, it was necessary to introduce an intermediate interface connector because it is no longer possible to solder directly to the board. Thus, the number of contacts for each board in the case doubled - proportionally, reliability decreased (recall the science of bad contacts)
      In 2016, I left the structures of Roscosmos and do not know the result.
    3. +3
      25 October 2019 11: 43
      Well of course we tried to protect. There was a way of development of our satellites with closed architecture, in contrast to the western open. It seems that they protected the electronics from radiation by putting everything in a box, but the problem with cooling got out, because in space it’s kind of cold, but the atmosphere is airless and it is impossible to cool in the usual way, except with large radiators. As a result, the path was recognized as futile.
      1. 0
        25 October 2019 11: 49
        Yes ... A vicious circle, it turns out ...
        Naturally, nobody will ever sell or transfer technology to us.
        And the technologies of the times of "Peace", "Venus" and other "Progress" are naturally hopelessly outdated in modern realities ...
        1. +8
          25 October 2019 13: 25
          Everything is much more interesting.
          A person who has not worked in the space industry might think that this is the cutting edge of science and technology. In fact, our space industry is very conservative. Very often, we refused progressive solutions in favor of proven and reliable ones.
          The introduction of new materials and equipment is a very laborious procedure with us. Justification, testing, coordination with the EP should be made. And only then it will appear in the restrictive lists allowed for use. Naturally, no one wants to do this.
      2. +3
        25 October 2019 11: 58
        And here it’s a bit inaccurate.
        After all, from the packaging, the overall heat dissipation does not change.
        Moreover, in a sealed enclosure with gas under pressure, the board cools better, more evenly, there is convection. This is an almost optimal solution, since it is not a problem to remove heat from a metal case, and gas removes heat from the most heated elements. If there are instrument boxes, then assembling them to discharge heat to the heat-removing panel is not a problem.
        The problem of general heat dissipation remains, of course, but it will be anyway. at least there is no modular approach.
        Modularity, which is also an open architecture, did not take root with us, first of all, due to a higher increase in the contacts in the connectors of the connecting blocks instead of their continuous soldering. Now work has begun with optical signals, for them, any gap on the connector is very unpleasant, so the blocks are often connected by more than meter nozzles without a connector.
    4. +2
      25 October 2019 13: 05
      There is a problem with heating. American chips do not heat up (relatively), so they work in a vacuum. They do not need a sealed enclosure, so the service life of 15 years, and the latest even more. At Glonass-M, the chips are heated, so they can only work in the air, respectively, they require a sealed enclosure that holds one atmosphere inside. Over the course of seven years, the air gradually disappears through micro-holes, and the apparatus breaks down. Hence the short life and long. Glonass-K was also vacuum, like the Americans.
      1. 0
        25 October 2019 19: 03
        ... short life and heavy weight.
    5. 0
      25 October 2019 16: 58
      No, it won't work, see the very sensible article "Microelectronics for Space and Military", https://habr.com/ru/post/156049/
      When such a particle collides with, for example, a lead atom of radiation protection, it simply tears it to shreds. The fragments will also have gigantic energy, and will also tear to shreds everything in their path. Ultimately - the thicker the protection of the heavy elements - the more fragments and secondary radiation we get. Lead can only greatly weaken the relatively soft radiation of terrestrial nuclear reactors.

      See also "Russian microelectronics for space: who produces what", https://habr.com/ru/post/217427/
      And as always on Habré - very interesting comments.
    6. +2
      25 October 2019 21: 03
      In the USSR, the military just had such microcircuits: a ceramic case and metal covers. They are now bought by hucksters on radio markets for more than a dozen years.
      1. +1
        29 October 2019 11: 48
        "Military" microcircuits do not always mean "space" or "nuclear". Metal lids, ceramic cases, "gilding" - these are mainly "climate". In conditions of high humidity, salt fog, temperature changes, etc., plastics degrade faster. They are very fond of eating mold and bacteria, especially in the tropics. In a vacuum, plasticizer components are released from the plastics. Plastics categorically do not tolerate ultraviolet radiation (and the nodes, if necessary, may be in the illumination zone, for example, in detectors). Plastics crack, dry out - cracks form in the places where the leads are inserted and moisture penetrates into the circuit. To avoid all this, they use ceramics, glasses, which give the best contact with the metal.

        Requirements for components for space are very different, for example: special semiconductor structures that are resistant to the formation of "extra holes" and induced charges. "Guard rings" that protect sensitive parts of the IC from induced charges (see "Physics of Radiation Effects Affecting Electronics in Space", https://habr.com/ru/post/189066/)

        About cooling. It is difficult to reduce the heat dissipation of a number of powerful units - transmitters, radiating antennas, and they are increasingly being manufactured using integral technology (integrated microwave electronics, PAR). As far as I know, nowadays it is almost a standard - a heat-pipe - a "table" on which everything that gets very hot is mounted, and the energy is transferred by steam to passive radiators of a large area (see Alekseev S.V., Prokopenko I.F. , Rybkin BI "Low-temperature heat pipes for space technology"). Or they even use heat pumps powered by isotope generators, solar panels.
        1. 0
          29 October 2019 16: 41
          A very detailed message! Thank! good
  5. +4
    25 October 2019 11: 51
    The author fundamentally does not understand why the satellites tried to build Glonass-K and what is the main dead end of our system, unlike the western ones. All Western systems, including Beidow, operate on CDMA signal separation. And Russia (USSR) went a special way and made frequency separation of signals - FDMA. when they realized the impasse, they tried to switch to CDMA. The plans were such - In 2015-2017, the improved Glonass-KM satellite will appear. The new satellites are expected to use up to 8 CDMA signals, which will replace FDMA signals. After a complete transition to CDMA signals, a gradual increase in the number of spacecraft in the grouping from 24 to 30 and a complete shutdown of FDMA signals are assumed. By the way, just hello to our car enthusiasts, as if there wasn’t much worried about the plan to get everyone to replace the ERA receivers later. One way or another, there are no plans for the K series of satellites to disappear with the advent of sanctions.
    1. -1
      25 October 2019 13: 10
      Quote: arkadiyssk
      went a special way and made the separation of signals frequency - FDMA. when they realized the impasse, they tried to switch to CDMA.


      FDMA has an order of magnitude worse noise immunity. But the enemies do not jam GLONASS. As the film said, "the hero of the day would not be overjoyed ahead of time."
  6. +10
    25 October 2019 12: 38
    “The defense industry also has other problems, both inherited from the Soviet past, and that have appeared relatively recently. The main of those that arose during the USSR is the elemental base.

    Are you ashamed to blame all the troubles on the USSR so far? Almost 30 years ago this beautiful country has disappeared. And what have you done, gentlemen, liberals during all this time? They destroyed, took away, shoved everything that was in their pockets, but they never created anything of their own. And they also looked into the mouth of world capitalism, only "from the other end," and so they remained in this position.
    Forced successor became

    Even here "Operation" Successor "failed. Isn't that why you are so afraid of" de-orbiting "the main" broadcast sputnik ", under whose shadow you do your dark deeds?
    1. -7
      25 October 2019 19: 14
      Quote: lexus
      What have you done, gentlemen liberals?


      GLONASS-M done, GLONASS-K. GLONASS-K would continue to do if they did not quarrel with the Americans. Seseser could not.
      1. +1
        25 October 2019 21: 07
        In the USSR, without any GLONASS, the military had top loaders.
        1. -1
          26 October 2019 00: 35
          In the USSR, not only in terms of topographic location — there were problems with communication and target designation, in Afghanistan Mujahideen and the Taliban often listened to ours thanks to foreign radio stations, radio scanners. Our even normal equipment did not have normal helmets or armored personnel carriers about sights and night vision devices it is better to keep silent.
      2. +1
        26 October 2019 00: 32
        GLONASS-M done, GLONASS-K. GLONASS-K would continue to do if they did not quarrel with the Americans. Seseser could not.

        The USSR, before your glonases, made the Legend, and successfully using it, it brought granites, without any Amerikos. And you yes, you can’t fucking hi
        1. -1
          26 October 2019 15: 43
          Well, yes, he created a group to guide only RCC, but for the soldiers he didn’t do nichrome in this area - for that, Russia did.
          1. 0
            26 October 2019 20: 27
            Well, yes, he created a group to guide only RCC, but for the soldiers he didn’t do nichrome in this area - for that, Russia did.

            Of course, just tell more fairy tales for rockets, by the way, purely for the sake of developing the first Soviet navigation system
            there was a cyclone that had been operating since 1976, and was the great-grandfather of gps and glanas, and it allowed navigating the ships of the USSR WWII on the terrain, as well as the cicada civilian system that could not be replaced with glanas until 2008, so that was all.
            ps and yes dear friend if nichrome do not know, there is nothing to be dishonored
            1. +1
              28 October 2019 21: 28
              Quote: armata_armata
              The first Soviet navigation system was a cyclone that operated since 1976, and was the great-grandfather of gps and glanas


              "Cyclone" is an analogue of the American "Transit" (only "Cyclone" had less than 4 satellites against 6). "Tranzit" began its work 12 years earlier in 1964. For a ship, they still somehow fit, but for planes, falling bombs, cruise missiles were not suitable.
              1. 0
                28 October 2019 23: 27
                "Cyclone" is an analogue of the American "Transit" (only "Cyclone" had less than 4 satellites against 6). "Tranzit" began its work 12 years earlier in 1964. For a ship, they still somehow fit, but for planes, falling bombs, cruise missiles were not suitable.

                And it says - the first Soviet navigation system, where does the "Transit"? Not about the United States.
                Further, both of these satellite systems gave cardinals with an error of 100-200 meters, which at the time of their creation and operation was the norm, and both of them worked perfectly and maintained. Not that glanas
          2. 0
            26 October 2019 20: 39
            but for the soldiers he didn’t do nichrome in this area - for that, Russia did.

            And by the way, the first Glanass satellite was put into orbit in 1982, so nothing more than the development of the Soviet network in essence of the Russian Federation did
            1. 0
              28 October 2019 21: 53
              Quote: armata_armata
              Glanass was put into orbit in 1982, so nothing but the development of the Soviet network in essence did


              This was only an experimental version. Judge for yourself: the service life of the satellite of the first "Glonass" is 3 years, they were launched three times a year, and 24 satellites are needed to cover the globe. Those. initially, when they were launched, it was not assumed that they would ever make a working network. This is only for experiment and for the study of ephemeris.

              And according to a normal working "Glonass" is "Glonass-M", it has a service life of 7 years, of which the network was built in 2003-2011.
              1. 0
                28 October 2019 23: 18
                Those. when they were first launched, it was not supposed that someday they would make an operational network

                True, they created completely technical documentation, launched the satellite and it was not supposed that it would be an active network, ridiculous. And she did not become operational then for only one reason, the collapse of the USSR
                service life of the satellite of the first "Glonass" - 3 years

                The service life of the satellite of the same "Parus" network was two years and about 100 satellites were launched, the system functioned normally for 36 years and was not experimental

                So the system was quite functional
    2. 0
      26 October 2019 00: 27
      Dohrenischi did - in Russia they began to produce their own: modern medical equipment, including MRI, Gamma therapy systems, cyclotrons, thermal imagers, fiber optic, competitive avionics, aircraft engines for civil aviation, a jet engine for fighter with plasma ignition, agriculture finally started make money, modern and competitive optical devices, industrial 3D printers, gas turbines, industrial and military computers with microprocessors developed in Russia, significant achievements have occurred in hypersonic aerodynamics, as well as in the nuclear industry in the creation of supercritical mini reactors, and these are new materials and Electronics - 190 enterprises, including private ones, are currently engaged in it in Russia.
      So what about "They destroyed, took away, shoved everything that was in their pockets, but they never created anything of their own" Go this crap to the grandmas on the bench Tell.
      1. -1
        26 October 2019 15: 41
        The amendment is not 190 enterprises - but 3000 enterprises and companies in all areas of electronics and radio electronics.
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  8. 0
    25 October 2019 23: 51
    The guaranteed seven-year period of active existence clearly does not color Glonass-M, especially when you consider that the lifetime of the third-generation American GPS satellite is fifteen.
    But nothing, that the price of the American satellite is about 30-60 times higher than ours? Their KHs cost 2-4 billion each, ours (Meteor-M, for example) also cost 3-4 billion, not just dollars, but rubles. And it weighs 3-4 times more.
    1. +3
      26 October 2019 00: 36
      But nothing that the price of an American satellite is about 30-60 times higher

      Well, they made a cool system 30 times cheaper that is on the verge of working capacity and it is not known whether it will fail tomorrow or not, well done, well done
      Vital defense systems must be designed with fault tolerance and efficiency, not maximum savings
      1. +1
        26 October 2019 06: 54
        And now the trend is the cheapest to buy and set. After all, we have optimization and MBI managers in high esteem. In principle - the approach is interesting - just put Chinese junk every year / two - the park or equipment is updated. And more than once every 10-15 years. The total costs are approximately the same - but the equipment is always modern. But quality suffers. The approach is not bad and not good. Just such a strategy. At its head is saving (in the sense the cheaper - the better). Already the results are beginning to show. We wait.
      2. +2
        26 October 2019 08: 10
        Quote: armata_armata
        Vital defense systems must be designed with fault tolerance and efficiency, not maximum savings

        Dear, your words and the customer’s ears. (This is about painful) In fact, they want it to be extremely reliable and as cheap as possible, in accordance with the current documentation (it doesn’t matter that she’s a hundred years old at lunch). Usually something like this happens:
        "Don't step back from OST, not a step. Don't care that new materials have appeared, OST has it? No! You can't use it! Oh, it will be better? I don't need better, I need everything to be fine with the papers. No, the truth will be better, just swear? That is, before you did badly, right? We will sort it out and look for the guilty. Oh, this material / technology is really needed, well, let's three years of testing and it will be in the OST, by the way tests at YOUR expense , we are satisfied with the customer. "
    2. 0
      28 October 2019 21: 20
      Quote: bk0010
      Their KH are worth 2-4 billion, ours (Meteor-M, for example)


      These two satellites cannot be compared. The Meteor is just a small camera, suitable only for weather photography. The KH-11 is an analogue of the Hubble (more precisely, the Hubble was assembled from spare parts from the KH-11). And even newer than the KN-12, it is twice as good as the Hubble. The Hubble has a 2,5 m mirror and an angular resolution of 0,1 arc seconds. KN-12 has 3 meters and 0,05 arc seconds, which corresponds to 10 cm per pixel on the ground. The "Meteor" on the ground - 1 km per pixel. Plus, the KN has a fuel supply and an engine for interorbital maneuvers. Meteor doesn't. The cost of KN-11 is $ 2 billion, including the launch. Without launch, the price of a satellite is $ 1 billion.
  9. +3
    26 October 2019 06: 48
    Um people of creativity. And we are scheduled science. In the West, they realized that out of 100 IT specialists, it would really give 1 idea, and maybe no one, maybe 10. But even if they give 1 idea, it would pay off all the expenses. There will be a breakthrough.
    Here Pentkovsky is a Soviet scientist. Its development of the Pentium - was rejected and sent to a landfill, choosing Elbrus. Elbrus still has problems of overheating, the stump - certainly does not suffer from overheating.
    The problem is management - we do not have managers for talents, because working with them is very difficult and problematic - but what is the return on them)
  10. 0
    26 October 2019 09: 34
    Here the question of establishing the production of components interests. "Iron" for such satellites. It is necessary to reform the industry, to build several factories, or to re-equip existing ones. I. Personnel for all this are needed.
    With the programs, as I understand it, everything will be fixed. There is software. But with iron ..
    Sometimes it seems that Beria is needed as a business executive and to do everything in a short time.
  11. 0
    27 October 2019 11: 15
    So much for precision weapons
  12. 0
    24 December 2019 12: 54
    Quote: l7yzo
    Um people of creativity. And we are scheduled science. In the West, they realized that out of 100 IT specialists, it would really give 1 idea, and maybe no one, maybe 10. But even if they give 1 idea, it would pay off all the expenses. There will be a breakthrough.
    Here Pentkovsky is a Soviet scientist. Its development of the Pentium - was rejected and sent to a landfill, choosing Elbrus. Elbrus still has problems of overheating, the stump - certainly does not suffer from overheating.
    The problem is management - we do not have managers for talents, because working with them is very difficult and problematic - but what is the return on them)

    True except Elbrus. He does not pull anything, it works as it should. Its specific productivity (in terms of tact or megahertz) is quite global. And everything that appeared in the stump was already in metal (silicon) in large machines, both here and abroad. Pentkovsky competently put it all in one crystal.
  13. -1
    26 December 2019 06: 45
    "What awaits GLONASS in the future?"

    Under the current regime, nothing good is expected. Gradual destruction and oblivion.
  14. -1
    17 January 2020 00: 07
    Just a month ago, cheers wrote that we would defeat everyone, and together with the Chinese we would tear them apart.
    And more than once.
    And suddenly this ....

    How to use the phone now ...: (((