Strange warriors of Novgorod

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Mr. Novgorod the Great always stood apart among other Russian cities. Veche traditions were especially strong in him, and for a long time the role of the prince was reduced to arbitration and organizing the defense of external borders. A large role in politics and public life was played by rich families, but all the letters and treaties were sealed by the archbishop - it was his foreign travelers who called him "the lord of the city." Novgorod warriors were also unusual. It would seem that there was never a shortage of enemies: the Lithuanians, the Swedes, the Knights of the Sword, the pagan tribes - there was from whom both extensive possessions and their native city to defend. Yes, and by their nature, the people of Novgorod were very adventurous and cocky people. Nevertheless, there are only two Novgorod bogatyrs - Sadko and Vasily Buslaev, and even then, not quite “correct”. True, sometimes Gavrila Oleksich, the great-grandson of a certain Ratmir (Ratshi), is included in the number of Novgorod bogatyrs. But Gavrilo Oleksich did not make a hero alone, like Ilya Murometsu, and did not fight against monsters, like Dobrynya and Alyosha Popovich - he performed his feats as part of the Novgorod army. He became famous during the Battle of the Neva (1240), when, pursuing the Swedes, he tried to ride a ship on a horse, but was thrown into the water. Gavrila Oleksich had two sons: Ivan Morekhina and Akinf. One of Ivan’s grandchildren was Gregory Cannon, who is considered to be the founder of the noble family of the Pushkins. From the other son of Gavrila, Akinf, they gave birth to the Kamensky clan, one of whom became the hero of the article Damn general. Nikolai Kamensky and his nickname Suvorov.

But Vasily Buslaev, who, like Gavrilo Oleksich, by the will of S. Eisenstein, became the hero of the famous film “Alexander Nevsky,” was actually not seen by anyone in the defense of Russian lands, and weapon he is not heroic - most often referred to as "black elm" (club).



Strange warriors of Novgorod

Vasily Buslaev and Gavrilo Oleksich in the film by S. Eisenstein “Alexander Nevsky”, 1938


Two epics about this bogatyr are known: “Vasily Buslaev and Novgorod” (recorded 20 variants) and “Vasily Buslaev's trip” (15 records).

IN AND. Dahl reports that the word "buslay" means literally "a rakish mot, a reveler, a broken fellow." Meanwhile about the father of Basil says:

"With the New City did not pair,
With Pskov he did not flinch,
And with Mother Moscow did not stop talking. ”


Therefore, there is reason to believe that “Buslaev” is not a patronymic, and, moreover, not a surname, but a characteristic of this bogatyr, who has already become from 7 years:

"Joke-off, joke,
Joking - from unkind joke
With boyar children, with princely:
Which pulls the hand - hand off,
Which by the leg - the leg off,
Two or three together will collide -
lie without a soul. "


And when Vaska grew up, his “mischief” and “jokes” began to have a purely mercantile character. Gaining a crowd of 30 people, many of whom, judging by their nicknames (Novotorzhenin, Belozerianin and others), were alien people, not Novgorodians, he began to go on peers, starting quarrels with the “merchants of the rich” and “Novgorod men”. And even representatives of the Church (“old man” Pilgrim) did not escape Vaskin’s “mischief”. In some texts, this old man is also Buslaev’s godfather:

“You listen to me, I am a godfather to you,
I taught you to read and write, I taught you to do good deeds, ”he appeals to him.
To which Vaska replies: "When you taught me, I took the money."


And further:

"You devil carries, yes you are my godfather,
Water carries you, but all at the wrong time.
And he hit his blacked out visor
And he killed the starcheschis, his cross father. "


As a result, “the townspeople subjugated and made peace” and pledged to pay “every year three thousand”. Some researchers believe that the “struggle of the Novgorod political parties” is reproduced in the epic. However, we can rather assume that Vaska appears here as a typical “criminal authority” and racketeer.


Vasily Buslaev against Novgorod men, illustration by R. Smirnova


It is not excluded that the team of Buslaev could also provide services for the protection of their clients, or, conversely, arrange attacks on their opponents. The existence of such “brigades” even in the 15th century confirms Metropolitan Jonah, who reported in a letter to the Novgorod archbishop Euthymius that they exist in Novgorod:

“Between wrangles, and strife, and murder, and bloodshed, and heartfelt assaults were created and created by Orthodox Christianity; they hired that evil and godless deed, hire on both sides of gloating and wanting bloodshed, drunkards and careless, evil people about their souls».


The cognitive tests that Buslaev’s candidates are subjected to are curious: it was necessary with one hand to raise a glass of wine and a half buckets and drink it, after which Vasily also beat them on the head with his favorite “black elm”. It is clear that after such tests a person became either an invalid or a psychopath with post-traumatic disorders of personality and behavior. However, I think that in this case we have a place with a hyperbolic description of the ritual of initiation into the ears: the wine cup was maybe big, but not “half a bucket”, and the blow of the club was probably purely symbolic.

However, in the same epic it turns out that there is a bogatyr in Novgorod and is stronger than Buslaev. More precisely - bogatyrka. This is some kind of a black woman, a maidservant of his mother, who, by her order, in the midst of the “epic” street fight, easily drags the unprofitable Vaska from the street and locks him in the cellar. Some explain this unexpected obedience of violent Buslaev by his fear of disobeying his mother, but this is completely not in the character of this hero, who, in his own words, does not believe, either in sleep or chok, but only in the very, notorious, black elm. Further, it is already told about the “exploits” of the blacksack. Having delivered Vaska “by appointment,” this girl, seeing that his friends are defeated, “drops maple buckets from the cypress arm”, and begins to wield them like a club, nailing many opponents “to death”.


Ryabushkin B.P. The girl-Chernavushka beats the men of Novgorod. 1898


And then, having spat on the order of his mistress, he releases Basil, who completes the pogrom of the “Novgorod muzhiks”, which ended with the agreement on the payment of that annual “tribute”.

In the following epic, Vasily suddenly realizes that he has:

"A young man was bitto-robbed,
Under old age, it is necessary to save the soul. "
Or, in another version:
"I have made a great transgression,
He has beaten many men of Novgorod ”.


Equipping the ship, he turns to his mother:
"Give me a great blessing
To go to me, Vasily, in Erusalim-grad,
With all the squad of horror,
I pray to the Lord
Enclose the holy shrine
In Yerdane River, swim. ”


Knowing the price of these good intentions of her son, the mother gives him a blessing with the proviso:

"If you, child, go to rob,
And do not wear Vasily damp earth. "


However, Vaska does not need blessing on such conditions, he “dodges like a loach around her,” and the mother concedes, even helps with the equipment:

"Bulat from the heat is melted,
Mother's heart dissolves,
And she gives a lot of lead, powder,
And gives Basil grain stocks,
And gives weapons a long,
Take care of you, Vasily, rampage your head. "



Shoot a flat-bottomed rowboat with a sail. The name comes from the Askui River - the right-hand tributary of the Volkhov near Novgorod, where such boats were built. Modern reconstruction



Vasily Buslaev and his band, illustration


On the way to Jerusalem, Buslaev's band meets with the robbers, who are “three thousand, robbing beads, galleys, ships are scarlet”. But, having “tasted” Vaskin's “elm tree”, the robbers “bow down” to him, offer rich gifts and even give a guide.


Novgorod ushkuyniki. Miniature from the Facial Chronicle


Another obstacle on the way is “Suboy fast, but the shaft is thick,” that is, a strong current and a high wave, the experienced team of Basil successfully copes with this. Further, on the Sorochinsky mountain (from the name of the river, which is now called the Tsaritsa — a tributary of the Volga), Buslaev sees the skull, and does not find anything better than to kick it. And hears a terrible warning:

"I was well done and not a mile,
I am lying on the Sorochinsky mountains,
Yes, lie to you on my right hand. "


Images of the skull and snakes with similar inscriptions were often seen on facial synodics common in medieval Russia. For example:
"Behold, man, and understand, this is your head, after your death shall be yours."


The words of a dead head do not make the slightest impression on Vasily; moreover, it seems that he perceives them as a challenge. So, for example, having reached the Holy Land, contrary to warnings, bathes naked in the Jordan River. On the way back, on the same Sorochinsky mountain, where the skull lies, Buslaev already finds

"Gray is a combustible stone,
A stone thirty cubits wide,
In the valley is a stone and forty cubits,
Its height is a pebble, for three elbows. ”


The stone is clearly grave, it has an inscription prohibiting jumping over it. However, there are texts in which the inscription, on the contrary, has the character of a call: “Who will skip this stone and jump?”. In any case, the character does not allow Buslaev to just pass by: he jumps over the stone himself, and orders his own companions to jump. Then, she decides to complicate the problem: according to one version, she jumps over a stone along, not across, according to another - “face back”. And here luck finally leaves this hero:

"And not quartered only quarters,
And then he was killed under the stone. "


The satellites buried him, as predicted - near the skull.

Here we are probably dealing with pre-Christian ideas that the dead can take with them people who are stepping over a corpse, or through a grave. It is especially dangerous to step over the grave along, since in this case the person does not just cross the path of the deceased, but share his path with him.

Of course, attempts were made to correlate the epic Vasily Buslaev with any real historical face. I.I. Grigorovich (a Russian historian of the 1171th century) and S.M. Soloviev talked about the Novgorod posadnik Vaska Buslavich, whose death is reported by the Nikon chronicle (written in the middle of the XVI century) under 1171. In addition to Nikonovskaya, the death of this posadnik is mentioned in the Novgorod Pogodinsky chronicle ( written in the last quarter of the XNUMXth century): "The same (XNUMX) year, the posadnik Vasily Buslaviev died in Veliky Novegrad." It is assumed that this news fell into this chronicle from Nikonovskaya. The literary critic A.N. Robinson and the Soviet historian and philologist D.S. Likhachev also trusted this news.

But N.M. Karamzin reacted to this chronicle news with distrust. The academician I.N. Zhdanov, who found out that there are no Vasily Buslaev in the lists of Novgorod mayor, or a person with a name that is even remotely similar. S.K. Shambinago considered the Nikon chronicle an unreliable source due to frequent insertions of “song material”. Modern researchers agree with him, believing that the Nikon Chronicle includes "news gathered from folklore sources." But in a much more "authoritative" among historians of the Novgorod First Chronicle, a certain Zhiroslav was named as posadnik in 1171.

Another Novgorod bogatyr - the famous Sadko, again, is absolutely not similar to the heroes of the epics of the Kiev cycle. Sadko does not possess bogatyr force, but he is an excellent (possibly ingenious) guslar and singer. It is his voice that attracts the king of the sea, from which the hero receives an award, making him one of the first people of Novgorod.


D. Belyakov as Sadko, Archangel Drama Theater


40 variants of epic Sadko were collected, which, according to the place of recording, are divided into 4 groups - Olonets, Belomorsk, Pechora and Ural-Siberian. Among the latter is the epic of the hammerwork of the Nevyansk Demidov Plant, the famous Kirsha Danilov. At the same time, there is only one absolutely complete version containing all the episodes - recorded by the Onega narrator A.P. Sorokin (records were also obtained from 10 bylin). Sorokin's epic about Sadko consists of three parts, which other narrators turn out to be separate songs.

There are different versions about the origin of Sadko bylina: according to the first one, Sadko is a native Novgorodian, according to the second - a newcomer. The second version seems to be more preferable, since in Kirsha Danilov's epic it is reported that, having grown rich, Sadko remains an outcast, and even asks the tsar of the sea: “Teach me to live in Novgorod”.

The sea king advises him:

"Bring you with people with customs,
And just about their dinner, Dospey,
Call the young men, townspeople,
And they will know and vedati. "


I think that the native Novgorodian himself would have guessed who should be invited to the “honorable feast”, whom to lend to and with whom to make the necessary acquaintances. But let's not get ahead.

First of all, let us say why Sadko had to sing alone on the bank of the Ilmen-lake. It turns out that, for some reason, he was no longer invited to feasts (perhaps the repertoire was no longer suitable, but maybe Sadko allowed himself some sort of audacity), and he was in a state of depression. Attracted by his singing, the king of the sea offers him a reward. According to the most well-known version, Sadko should beat a pawn with eminent people that he would catch a golden feather in the Ilmen-lake.


Frame from the film "Sadko", 1952


It is not quite clear what value this fish has, and why this mortgage is so interesting for Novgorod merchants: well, there is, perhaps, some very rare fish in the lake. Once a person argues, perhaps he has already caught her, and knows the place where she is found. Why on this insignificant occasion put at stake all his fortune? For the less common, but more logical version, Sadko hires a fishing artel, which catches for him many big and small, red and white fish. During the night, the fish caught (and folded into the barn) turns into gold and silver coins - this is a record of the same Kirsha Danilov.

This ends the first part of the epic Sorokin (and the first songs about Sadko by other storytellers). And the second begins with the fact that, having grown rich, Sadko remains a stranger in Novgorod, and, following the advice of the king of the sea, tries to establish contacts with influential people. But even here he fails, because at this feast there is a new quarrel with the eminent Novgorod. As a result, he again beats the bet that he can buy all the goods of Novgorod. Sometimes he succeeds in this, and he again confuses the Novgorod merchants, but more often Sadko fails (as the goods are brought up all the time: first Moscow, then foreign, and their prices go up). One way or another, Sadko turns out to be the owner of a huge amount of unnecessary goods, which cannot be sold in Novgorod. But with cash, probably already a problem. That is why he has to swim "overseas" - try to realize them: the third, the most fabulous (and, as it is believed, the most ancient and archaic) part of the epic begins.


Sadko, shot from the Soviet film 1952


Through Volkhov, Lake Ladoga and Neva Sadko enters the Baltic Sea, from it to distant countries (in some variants of the epics even India is called), where it successfully sells all goods.


Andrey Ryabushkin. "Sadko, a rich Novgorod guest", 1895 year


The main adventure begins on the way home. A strange storm strikes the sea: there are huge waves around, the wind breaks the sails, but Sadko’s ships stand still. In the bylinas recorded in the Russian North, Sadko sends to see if his ship is sitting on a “submerged puddle” (underwater scattering of stones, typical of the White Sea). But he himself already realizes that the matter is bad: he, apparently, has some unpaid debts to the sea king, and he is doing everything possible to avoid a meeting with the "benefactor." At first, Sadko resorted to the ancient rite of “feeding the sea”, which was remembered in Novgorod, and in the early twentieth century, fishermen threw bread and salt into the water. Sadko does not waste time on trifles - he orders to throw barrels of gold, silver and pearls into the sea. However, the storm does not stop, and the ships, as before, stand still, and it becomes clear to everyone that a human sacrifice is required (the same Novgorod fishermen still threw a straw effigy into the water as a replacement sacrifice at the end of the 19th century). VG Belinsky, as is known, admired Sadko's "daring", including his willingness to save his comrades at the cost of his life. However, this “readiness” looks somewhat doubtful, and in this situation Sadko behaves not too decently: knowing who the sea king demands to himself, he tries in every way to deceive fate. Initially, he announces that he will go to the sea king, whose lot will be drowned, then - on the contrary, who will remain afloat, and this time he will make his “lot” of iron, while his subordinates will have “veterinary” - all in vain. Realizing, finally, that you cannot outwit the king of the sea, Sadko last time (as he thinks) plays the harp, puts on the most expensive sable coat and orders an oak raft to be lowered into the sea. On this raft he falls asleep, and wakes up already in the sea kingdom. Considering that Sadko wakes up again in the final of the epic story - on the bank of the Chernava River (or Volkhov), some considered him an underwater adventure to be a dream.

So, being at the bottom, Sadko meets with the sea king. There are several versions of the reason for such a "call." According to the first, most prosaic and uninteresting, the king of the sea, really, is not satisfied with not receiving a tribute:

“You are, Sadko, a rich merchant!
You have always been Sadko, by the sea,
But I, the king, did not cry tribute.
Yes, is it good, Sadko, I bite you alive?
Do you want me to burn you with fire, Sadko? ”


According to the second, he wants to ask Sadko some questions: he demands that he judge him in a dispute with the queen:

"I then demanded you here,
Tell me, tell me and tell me
What do you have in Russia is expensive?
We have a conversation with the queen,
Gold or silver in Russia is expensive
Or is there expensive iron iron? ”


Sadko replies that gold is expensive, but people need iron.

In one single version, the sea king wants to play chess with Sadko. But, more often, he wants to once again listen to his playing on the harp and singing.


V. Korolkov. "Sadko"


Sadko has to play and sing for three days without a break. He does not know that the tsar’s dance caused a terrible storm on the surface, it was reported to him by a gray-haired, bearded old man, in which Sadko recognizes Saint Nicholas of Mozhaisky. Since, according to the legend, in the Sofia Cathedral of Kiev, a previously drowned but alive and all wet girl was found next to his image, Nicola was often called “Wet” and was considered the patron saint of sailors and in distress.


Icon of St. Nicholas. Late 12th – early 13th century, Novgorod


The saint orders to break the harp - break the strings and break the pegs. The sea king stops dancing and the storm stops. This is followed by an “offer that cannot be refused”: the king demands that Sadko accept a new reward and marry in his kingdom. On the advice of St. Nicholas, Sadko chooses the most ugly of the brides offered to him - Chernava. There are two versions of the need for such a choice. According to the first, she is the only earthly girl in the underwater kingdom; according to the second, Černava is the embodiment of a real river flowing near Novgorod.


I. Repin, "Sadko"


Sleeping after the wedding feast, the hero wakes up on the ground. Soon they return to Novgorod and its ships. The epic ends with Sadko’s promise to build a “cathedral church” in Novgorod.

Are there real prototypes for this Novgorod merchant-hero? It is hard to believe, but the Novgorod chronicles claim that Sadko (Sotko, Stko, Sotka) Sytinich (Sitinits, Stjnich, Sotich), saved by St. Nicholas, built the church of Saints Boris and Gleb in Detinets. And not one, two or three - in total 25 sources speak about it. Among them are: the Novgorod first chronicle of both izvodov, the Novgorod second, Novgorod the third, fourth and fifth, Novgorod Karamzinskaya, Novgorod Bolshakovskaya, Novgorod Uvarovskaya, Novgorodskaya Zabelinskaya, Novgorod Pogodinskaya, the Chronicler of Novgorod masters, the Pskov first chronicle, the Sofia first, Perm Tcherskinskaya, the Chronicler of Novgorod masters, the Pskov first chronicle, the Sofia first, Perm Tcherskinskaya, the Chronicler of Novgorod masters, the Pskov first chronicle, the Sofia first, the Perm Tcherskinskaya, the Chronicler of Novgorod masters, the Pskov first chronicle, the Sofia first, the Perm Tcherskinskaya, the Chronicler of Novgorod masters, the Pskov first chronicle, the Sofia first, the Perm T. chronicle code of the end of the XV century ,, Rogozhsky chronicler, Vladimir chronicler, Resurrection and Nikon chronicles, and so on.

14 sources contain news about the foundation of this church in 1167. It was also reported that it was built on the site of the first, wooden, St. Sophia Cathedral, burned down in 1049 year. And then this church is mentioned many times in annals and acts: it is reported about its consecration (1173), about restoration after a fire (1441), about dismantling for decay (1682).


Novgorod Detinets on the Khutyn Icon, XVI – XVII centuries

This is one of two images of the Novgorod Church of Boris and Gleb, which seems to be bigger and higher than the St. Sophia Cathedral, which has come down to our time.


Many researchers believe that over time, frankly fantastic details lay over the real story about a merchant who had been saved at sea. Perhaps the Finnish legends about the singer Vaynemeinen and the sea king Ahto also had some influence. Among the optimists were such authoritative historians as A.N. Veselovsky, V.F. Miller, A.V. Markov and D.S. Likhachev, who made a rather bold statement that "Sadko Chronicles and Sadko bylinas are one and the same person." But everyone, of course, is free to have his own opinion on this matter.
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  1. +5
    21 June 2019 05: 45
    Thank you,
    very informative article!
    I wanted to point out a couple of questions:
    Firstly, the peculiarity of Novgorod is not in the veche system, the veche system in modern historiography is considered as a single institution for Russia of the XI-XIII (or the beginning of the XIV) centuries, what we know for Novgorod and Pskov for the late period is the period of the formation of “aristocratic "Or" oligarchic "republic.
    Secondly, I completely agree with the author about the “peculiarity” of Novgorod from, say, Kiev, but the peculiarity is connected not with the “special veche system”, but with the fact that these are different tribes, then different states, often colliding with each other .
    And the last, the most difficult: it is the isolation of the epic layer of different periods, and in the epics, the period of the break of the tribal system, the formation of the proto-state, and the later stratifications are distinguished. This is the same as the "myths" of ancient Greece, where the same processes are described. See, for example, I. Y. Froyanov, Yu. I. Yudin. Epic story. SPb. 1997.
    1. +8
      21 June 2019 06: 50
      Edward could not resist however wink
      “Well, ka” drive your “academician” to the stall, or else “during the period of the tribal tribal break .....” tfu twice laughing
      Today is not a place or time for “crackers” !!! Today is a day of robbery and fairy tales tongue
      And I’m not better than you, I started reading the article and the paw is trying to copy “subtle moments”, but “stepped on my throat” - well, out of place to chop, something like “The author of the work simplified the processes of relations between the prince and veche authorities "," did not reflect the influence of the Orthodox Church ..... " wassat
      To stand!!! I offer only today and now the wonderful work of Valery, we will consider and comment on how people believe in miracles, fairy tales, stories ....
      Indeed, if you plunge into the fate of the heroes of today's work with children's eyes, abandoning the pure pragmatics of Buslaev and science fiction about Sadko, there are many layers of moral lessons (do not run up, love your mother, believe in God, be honest and keep your word .....). And one of the most important is “the girl = Tsarevna Chernyavka”, “Shershchel fa” !!!!
      About ten years ago I watched such a "girl - Chernyavka" who, on a winter evening, in a sled drove home her unlucky drunken husband. And she did it in such a way that the language could not be called otherwise than the royal “process”! And “I don’t even know what to call him” managed to lead her like the last “trash”! Rest your feet in the snow, sing obscene songs and so on. So the girl on the “attacks of the missus” with royal grace shook out the last “face in the snow”, then with love returned to the sled. Drunk again for her, she again him "in a snowdrift" and so apparently to the house! But he doesn’t throw, but drags! Real Russian woman !!!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. +3
        21 June 2019 07: 33
        We agreed, we will drive the "crackers"!
      2. +1
        21 June 2019 11: 47
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Today is not the place and not the time of "crackers"

        Well, Vladislav, you, directly ... wanted to say "set the tone for the discussion," but realized that this is the very "cracker". Therefore, I will say this: they dispersed the harsh, formidable clouds of academicism, which were ready to expel critical lightning from themselves, generously sprinkling comments with the life-giving moisture of fairy-tale romance and children's delight. smile hi
        I’ll say this about myself - both heroes of the article - I’ve absolutely disliked Buslaev and Sadko since my childhood.
        The first is a typical scumbag, spiteful, aggressive and absolutely alien to such concepts as "justice", "conscience" - only an exclusive desire to everyone and always prove their physical superiority by violence and cruelty. As a child, he constantly came into conflict with such people to bloody snot. Most of them, by the way, went to criminal charges, many did not survive the 90s.
        The second is a crafty mercenary. The character is not so disgusting, but also unpleasant. For me, as a man brought up on the exploits of pioneers, heroes, based on self-sacrifice, disinterestedness and honesty, he was just a swindler - slippery, quirky and deceitful. So I myself beat the muzzle in childhood. smile
        Of course, a lot has changed with age. The "Buslaevs" who have survived to our time have dried up and are now walking around the village with shaking hands, shooting money for drinks at the rogue "cages", and when we meet, we all greet, communicate, share news, count the rest and sincerely rejoice at each other.
        Something from the topic of the article brought me somewhere. smile
        I, at one time, was substantively interested in the history of Novgorod — native places, after all. It seems that if fewer heroes such as the heroes of this article by Valery were born in it, and more such as we have in Kiev, such as Ilya, Dobrynya, Nikita Kozhemyaki, etc., there are glorious pages in the history of this great city (Novgorod ), although there are already a lot of them, it could be much more ...
        1. +4
          21 June 2019 13: 59
          Strange warriors of Novgorod
          And when Vaska grew up, his “mischief” and “jokes” began to have a purely mercantile character. Gathering a team of 30 people, many of whom, judging by their nicknames (Novotorzenin, Belozeryanin, etc.), were newcomers, not Novgorodians, he began to go to feasts, starting quarrels with "rich merchants" and "Novgorod men." And even representatives of the Church (the “old man” Pilgrim) did not escape Vaskin’s “mischief”.

          Set off an article.
          The hero of Novgorod, he is a Russian man, is shown as it is, without cuts for "moral and ethical reasons" and slick history ...
          After all, not "the face of morality", but people of flesh and blood, with their own morals and morals characteristic of that not a simple era.
          1. +2
            21 June 2019 15: 42
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Bogatyr Novgorod

            Gopnik.
            If there was a bogatyr, he would put his baton aside, take a weapon in his hands and go to fight for Mr. Novgorod Novgorod somewhere in Zavolochye, Stone, Korela or Chud. Spread the boundaries of Novgorod, would base cities, take tribute from any Zyryans or Ugra. And, perhaps, honestly would lay down a head in the battle against some conditional Lithuania or Chudi, reflecting the raid on the Russian lands, or on the same Zhdan-gore in a fair battle against the Suzdal prince or in other battles of which in all periods of Novgorod's history enough - and then more honor and glory.
            And in peacetime, waving a club for hire on city streets as part of a bandul of the same thugs as himself is not heroism. You could see as many such "heroes" on the Kiev streets in winter 2014.
            1. +4
              21 June 2019 17: 00
              Yes, they are enough in Russia wink beat your own, so that strangers are afraid, it is not for nothing that this saying appeared negative they spread rot on their people, and they lick their feet on strangers, this is very evident in the world soccer championship, and with the “new brothers” from the CIS countries Yes nothing is changing in this country hi
              1. +3
                21 June 2019 17: 12
                Quote: Popuas
                Yes, they are enough in Russia wink beat your own, so that strangers are afraid, it is not for nothing that this saying appeared negative they spread rot on their people, and they lick their feet on strangers, this is very evident in the world soccer championship, and with the “new brothers” from the CIS countries Yes nothing is changing in this country hi

                Dear Papuan, there are enough and enough of such prokhendey in all countries and at all times!
                So I agree with Mikhail, but you won’t throw out heroes from a fairy tale! In this connection, I propose the slogan "this is our k-o-z-l-and-n-and we will kill him ourselves, but we will not betray him to strangers!"
                By the way, Mikhail, why is closer to my heart and soul the “minor hero” of the Novgorod epics - Chernyava (fight girl) !!!
                1. 0
                  21 June 2019 17: 30
                  Yes, it’s enough everywhere, I completely agree, but we have it at the state level, that's sad hi
                2. +2
                  21 June 2019 18: 48
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  Chernyava (fight girl) !!!

                  This is yes. Though I am not a fan of such women, but where would it be without them? We had one such, a yoke, however, did not wave, but the men with her were quieter than the water they behaved, that the opera, that the sledaks, that the bosses. Not for word, not for deed, I did not climb into my pocket, while preserving both femininity and charm. It has long been. Now she, probably, already to 60 ...
                  1. +2
                    21 June 2019 19: 30
                    Reincarnation of Sophia Bluestein?
                    1. +2
                      21 June 2019 19: 45
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Reincarnation of Sophia Bluestein?

                      With a reverse vector of application of effort. laughing
                    2. +2
                      22 June 2019 07: 10
                      Quote: Trilobite Master
                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      Chernyava (fight girl) !!!

                      This is yes. Though I am not a fan of such women, but where would it be without them? We had one such, a yoke, however, did not wave, but the men with her were quieter than the water they behaved, that the opera, that the sledaks, that the bosses. Not for word, not for deed, I did not climb into my pocket, while preserving both femininity and charm. It has long been. Now she, probably, already to 60 ...

                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Reincarnation of Sophia Bluestein?

                      Believe me, friend Anton, if such a "girl" puts on epaulettes, then put out the light gentlemen officers!
                      I don’t want to get personal, but in my life I was “sworn” as my immediate boss! The heads of the police departments walked on the wall that even I was afraid to speak! Says - cut off !!! Slave girls just howled under her command !!! But they didn’t run!
                      Most interesting, I learned a lot from her and am grateful to fate that she brought me together with this person!
                      I will smile! I’m sitting at 21:00, I’m printing a “service check”. The boss comes in and says, why are you alone, where is everyone? I answer, at home, three hours after the working day ended. She “I’m at work, you are at work, I don’t like it”, takes the phone and calls her deputy “Angelika Borisovna, where are you at home?” You cook, you feed your husband, why am I in the service? ” Make two more similar calls and leaves home. At 23:00 the entire personnel department of the Office was at work! Moreover, I killed another hour to drive them back home !!!
                      1. +3
                        22 June 2019 13: 33
                        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                        I’m sitting at 21:00, I’m printing a “service check”. The boss comes in and says, why are you alone, where is everyone? I answer, at home, three hours after the working day ended. She “I’m at work, you are at work, I don’t like it”, takes the phone and calls her deputy “Angelika Borisovna, where are you at home?” You cook, you feed your husband, why am I in the service? ” Make two more similar calls and leaves home. At 23:00 the entire personnel department of the Office was at work! Moreover, I killed another hour to drive them back home !!!

                        We saw such fighting women. One of the worst categories of bosses, who, imagining themselves to be queens, spit on the staff and do not comply with the requirements of the legislation and orders of the Minister, and as a result, units quickly fall apart. And it’s not for nothing that the personnel officers are called the Inspectorate for Combating Personnel.
                      2. +3
                        22 June 2019 21: 31
                        A dangerous thing is power. It’s not easy to stop.
  2. +3
    21 June 2019 06: 56
    Valery, great stuff! Loved it!
    1. +1
      21 June 2019 20: 53
      Quote: kalibr
      Valery, great stuff! Loved it!

      me too, but Sadko’s shoe is not fashionable ..
      there is also more fashionable ..
  3. +1
    21 June 2019 08: 15
    We are pleased with the level of articles on VO.
    1. +3
      21 June 2019 10: 43
      Once at a time is not necessary!
      1. +2
        21 June 2019 11: 47
        Kotya, you’re right: sometimes such rubbish, but sometimes you read and the soul rejoices
  4. +10
    21 June 2019 08: 57
    We are directly forming a hero encyclopedia on HE, is not it?
    It is gratifying, gratifying ....
  5. +3
    21 June 2019 09: 39
    The name comes from the Askuy River - the right tributary of the Volkhov near Novgorod, where such boats were built
    It seems to me a mistake here, there is no such river, but there is the Oskuya river, which is really the right tributary of the Volkhov, though it is not very close to Novgorod.
    1. +5
      21 June 2019 11: 32
      A similar version of the origin of the term "ushkuy" is presented in the "Russian Humanitarian Encyclopedic Dictionary, 3 vols. The Oskuya river is named Askuy there. What this version is based on remains a mystery. The etymology of the term ushkui has been well studied, so it is interesting why the author chose such an exotic option ...
      1. +5
        21 June 2019 12: 53
        Judging by the minuses under the comment, the inadequate contingent on the site is more and more spreading and expanding its habitat. Once again, I return to the proposal of the administration on the need for argumentation of the minuses. This will allow some minusers to at least write to learn. Still good.
    2. +1
      21 June 2019 11: 54
      At school, we were told that the name comes from a rope ring on the bow of a boat.
      1. +3
        21 June 2019 17: 19
        The most common version of the etymology of the word ushkuy - is associated with polar bears!
        True or false I do not know!
        1. +1
          21 June 2019 18: 05
          How?!?!?
          1. +3
            22 June 2019 05: 31
            The etymology of this term is presumably related to the Pomeranian word “oshkuy” meaning “polar bear”.

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ушкуй
            On the bow of the boat was a bear’s head. From pomors, we went earflaps, and from them Don Cossacks. Ataman from the Indo-European wataman (cotton wool, vatar - wind, man - man) - helmsman, the main sail.
            1. +1
              22 June 2019 07: 00
              Not the fact that the head of a bear, but maybe the head of a swan or something fabulous? Not you, not I, were not there and did not take a picture
    3. VLR
      0
      23 June 2019 15: 38
      Askuy is the old name of the Oskuya river. And there are many theories of the origin of the word "ear", but there is no generally accepted one.
  6. -5
    21 June 2019 12: 40
    aquaman sucks - Sadko steers ...
    1. +4
      21 June 2019 17: 23
      Expressions choose!
    2. 0
      21 June 2019 21: 02
      Quote: arhitroll
      aquaman sucks - Sadko steers ...

      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Expressions choose!

      "archtroll" on the site for 5 years, he knows all the expressions ...
  7. -7
    21 June 2019 12: 45
    The author, it seems, is very worried that at that time there was still no Russian Guard, so the heroes then blossomed.
    1. +2
      21 June 2019 17: 19
      Quote: iouris
      The author, it seems, is very worried that at that time there was still no Russian Guard, so the heroes then blossomed.

      Arguing?
      1. -5
        21 June 2019 19: 25
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: iouris
        The author, it seems, is very worried that at that time there was still no Russian Guard, so the heroes then blossomed.

        Arguing?

        Is the absence of the Russian Guard in medieval Novgorod small?
        1. +3
          22 June 2019 07: 13
          With all due respect, it annoys me when the warm is confused with the soft !!!
    2. +1
      22 June 2019 11: 53
      Quote: iouris
      that at that time there was no Rosguard, so the heroes then bloomed

      If you personally meet such a "hero", then run for protection to the police or the National Guard.
      1. -1
        23 June 2019 20: 26
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote: iouris
        that at that time there was no Rosguard, so the heroes then bloomed

        If you personally meet such a "hero", then run for protection to the police or the National Guard.

        Yeah, and if would met with comrade Sadko, then - to the federal antimonopoly agency!
        Do not tell my sneakers!
        I will smile a little! Years ago, on vacation in the village of Kuchegury (Krasnodar Territory), I simply made reflexes to the traffic police who stopped at the pedestrian crossing and were not fastened with seat belts .....! The senior squad tried to be outraged, but the second crew member (old ensign) read my further reaction through the eyes and yanked his colleague ....! After that they simply gave a military greeting and did not violate traffic rules. Now a question? What is the point of scaring me with hooliganism, if it's already a quarter of a century - this is my hmm ... work .......
        You go still Novgorod gopnik Sailboat or Trilobit Master scare! The only thing I can not understand the role of the National Guard in our case? As a professional, I’ll say straightforwardly any brawl on the part of such brawlers as Vaska Buslaev, is solved with the help of their soul mates and mothers ..... and not OMON !!! It works without fail, it’s the only thing it’s necessary to put up without victorious realities (about how a riot squad of OMON twisted a drunkard Kbyzdoha) and, as a result, without orders and medals !!! But you solve the problem in the bud. And there is the missus meter in the jump, she will punish the other half (she will leave it without borsch or sex). Moreover, experience shows that this is much more effective than 15 days of arrest! The main thing is that she does not score her two-meter bull to death with a frying pan (there were precedents) !!!
        1. 0
          23 June 2019 22: 08
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          As a professional, I’ll say straightforwardly any brawl on the part of such brawlers as Vaska Buslaev, is solved with the help of their soul mates and mothers ..... and not OMON !!!

          I’m not being a professional, but I can recall a lot of cases when soul mates and mothers become victims of the so-called domestic violence, from which the same riot police save them.
          1. 0
            23 June 2019 23: 16
            Exactly you are not a professional! Connecting to the solution of issues of domestic violence OMON is the top of not competence!
            The solution to such issues is the level of the district commissioner. If he or his leadership fails, then the maximum trouble is solved at the level of the head of the territorial department.
            The law is formal and its implementation is simple - there is a corpus delicti - a criminal case is instituted. No - administrative protocol. The conflict is different. A clever precinct will decide this issue in favor of the family, stupid for the sake of the law! As they say, who studied for whom ..... Moreover, in this case, the main thing is prevention and prevention, and not punitive measures.
            The most commonplace example! My mom’s cat stuffed her face with a neighbor’s cat. Drunk neighbor decided not to put up with shame and strangle his cat? I had to intervene, now every time the neighbor's face reports how much the cat eats, what it writes and poop !!! It's just that every person needs an approach! How did I decide? He just lied to him, what did you finish off with you the rat-catcher! In the evening I talked about this topic in the nearest store with a couple of grandmas. Laughter and sin now all believe that the cat is a super Pied Piper! And most importantly, he is alive!
            Roughly speaking, the police do not go with flowers, but with problems and troubles! From your own experience, you may not be loved, but you must know and respect !!! And there.....
            Example two! If, being a local police officer, you won’t play an ostrich! Within three years you will build your image and fame! Then it will work for you .....
            And so, in cold weather, my acquaintances help neighbors start cars !!!? More than once or twice, I saw how district police officers help change wheels, take grandmothers across the road, and much more ... from the side of stupidity. You can’t help everyone in life, but it forms an attitude towards you. You can don’t rush around bypassing your site, but you can know who, when and where to call ...., ask ...., find out !!! To be honest, the work is round-the-clock, you are always at the service, but emotionally grateful! The main thing is if you behave humanly !!!
            1. 0
              24 June 2019 20: 01
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              Connecting to Domestic Violence

              If this violence is a bit of a drunkard, then yes. That's just it can be a seasoned bandit.
  8. -4
    21 June 2019 19: 22
    "To which Vaska replies:" When you taught me, you took the money. "
    Vaska is our man! laughing
  9. +4
    21 June 2019 19: 38
    I liked the article. The author drew attention to the "epic heroes" from a different perspective. The only question that arose in me: why should we perceive epics solely as a description of the exploits of positive HEROES, and not allow the perception of epics as a description of "exploits of asocial personalities"? say to show by their example how normal people should not be ??? I am not a historian.
    1. +2
      21 June 2019 21: 08
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      The author drew attention to the "epic heroes" from a different perspective.

      Yes, it seems that everything is okay with us .. and Ivan-DUrak, and Emelya-loafer, even Ilyusha lay on the stove for half his life, assuming! that is paralyzed! ... and so on ... lol
      1. 0
        22 June 2019 13: 46
        There are fabulous heroes, and there are epic ones. The example of "Ilyusha" is the only epic, but this does not mean that Muromets was a "parasite" or "paralyzed"))) We now spend half their lives on the couch, but not all "parasites are on the body of society)))". But imagine that the saying "lay on the stove" in those days had no allegorical meaning? Heroes (we mean - warriors) in those days could only be people trained in military affairs. Maybe Ilya was trained as a warrior, but did not want to do this business, but was engaged in something else, and his comrades and relatives, especially his mother-in-law))) a warrior's helmet in those days was worth a fortune) was engaged in a less profitable business ??? And he was surrounded by "brains dripping" - they say "lying on the stove", and Ilyusha was a convinced pacifist in his youth ....))) By the way, don't tell me, is the nightingale-robber a fabulous or epic hero? He seems to be found in fairy tales and in epics, but I'm not sure about epics.
        1. +1
          25 June 2019 10: 30
          More than once I met data on the Nightingale: the governor of the Vyatichi tribe, for kyans and Rostovs — cursed unchristen, prevented the prince crusaders from roaming through the Debrnansky forests (from Chernigovai Smolesnka — in Zalesye), arranged outposts on centuries-old oaks with Vyatitsa men — for which detachment of Elijah (Christian hero), tied and taken to Kiev for reprisal.
    2. +1
      22 June 2019 00: 07
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      The only question that arose in me: why should we perceive epics solely as a description of the exploits of positive HEROES, and not allow the perception of epics as a description of "exploits of asocial personalities"? say to show by their example how normal people should not be ??? I am not a historian.

      Obviously, a Russian person is so arranged - to forgive the repentant, even if he is an "associal personality". And, an ineradicable faith in justice and love. Is it true or not I don't know request but still Russia and we are alive. So true Yes .
  10. +1
    21 June 2019 21: 56
    I wonder how Russia would change if it won
    Novgorod, not Moscow?
    Novgorod with "parliament" -veche, "English" fistfights,
    universal literacy of the population, including ordinary people,
    trade with the Hanseatic League. Novgorod, not knowing humiliation from the khans
    Golden Horde .... A completely different country ...
    1. +5
      21 June 2019 23: 10
      Then there would be no Russia. Novgorod, as an oligarchic or aristocratic republic, in the fifteenth century was a dead end of development and the object of expansion on the part of Moscow and Lithuania, it could only be about who would master this city-state.
    2. 0
      22 June 2019 00: 33
      I wonder what role financiers played in Veliky Novgorod?
      There was no Russia at that time, Russia was created by the Moscow tsars. Novgorod could neither buy nor defeat Moscow. Perhaps Lithuania, perhaps, could become the center of the "Russian world", but became the outskirts of the Polish world, and the Polish world later fell into decay.
      And why are relations of vassal dependence on khans considered as humiliation? At that time there were no nations and national pride. In addition, the khans were able to create a global centralized structure. And it worked. If something is nonsense, but it works, then it is not nonsense. Moscow princes also created a centralized state before many, and it worked. Not at all like Novgorod.
  11. xax
    +1
    21 June 2019 23: 11
    Thank you very much for your work!
    All three articles about the heroes were great to read.
    I only note that modern films on this topic are really the allocation of parasites that devour their story. After all, they are taken with all seriousness. However, about the cartoons - I would argue! The cartoons about the heroes mentioned earlier are, firstly, humor (and humor has never claimed to be at least some kind of true historical source), and secondly, they, although they do not correspond to reality, are still for a certain generation they completely raised the issue of having their own (and not foreign) superheroes. The main thing is to understand that these are humorous works, then there will only be a reminder of the presence of our own story and heroes in it, and their perception from the images of these cartoons will not come. I will say this if I personally did not watch those cartoons - I would not open your articles. That was the beginning, so to speak, light and laid-back).
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    1. +2
      22 June 2019 01: 04
      It was cooler there: "ha ... s tears on his head and hangs on a nail"
      There is epic power in these lines! "Oh head!" - a true epic hero. good fellow
  13. -2
    22 June 2019 14: 45
    Explore the mythology of Mediterranean civilizations. Such things happened in them that the "strange heroes of Novgorod" never dreamed of. But now it is being embodied with might and main.
  14. 0
    22 June 2019 15: 32
    Karamzin is right - the characters who live have completely different characteristics.
  15. 0
    22 June 2019 19: 37
    ambiguous opinion about the article and the advantages (for the style and debunking of political and propaganda myths) that history textbooks hang like noodles on the ears of our children). And if from the point of view of grumbling - (minuses) - a request to the author to rely more on reliable facts (as much as possible). they are difficult to find on the Internet, but if you try and kill time, you can raise dissertations on historical topics of interest.
    ps Ushukuyniki - not from the tributary, but from the Old Turkic - uch kui, uch kai, uch kai yok. - translated into modern Russian - a large boat (the size of three Tatar)
    In general - thanks for the article, I liked it
    1. 0
      25 June 2019 10: 34
      Well, of course! The ancient Türks and their descendants are entirely sailors and rivermen!
      1. 0
        28 June 2019 18: 09
        In vain you are so excited without understanding, nevertheless it is so! The Tatars of Kazan were the first to call the Ushukuyniks of Novgorod robbers, from there the nickname went to Sarai, the then capital of our Motherland, and only then the word "Ushukuyniki" came to Novgorod itself - a fact well-known among historians
        1. 0
          3 July 2019 10: 21
          In the 13-14th century the so-called "Kazan" was Bulgaria, and no one called them "Tartars". This time. Secondly, on the ears (a type of boat) Novgorodians used to go to Yugra long before the "Mongol-Tatars", and long before the Khlynov guys. Khlynovtsy (Vyatka) - later figurants of "ushkuynism". These are really derbani and Bulgaria. and Sarai, and Kostorma with Yaroslavl. Thus, the ushkuyniki are a continuation of the tradition of the Circumbaltic sea campaigns, partly Scandinavian, mostly Varangian (that is, Russian). By the way, all Slavic settlement in Central and Northeastern Europe is exclusively linked to rivers. River civilization. Where do the proud steppe heroes come from, where do the Turks come from? - This is a completely different way of life. If only because Istemi khan in 555 did not get to the Volga by boats.
          1. 0
            3 July 2019 13: 31
            Well, of course, Bulgar, I wrote this for non-specialists in a modern way by the Kazan Tatars .. By the way, the Tatars were called the Tatars by the Mongols (not autochthonous of course), and ours, who were called Tatars in Russia, which for the Mongols meant - the same as for ancient Romans the word barbarian - everyone else. other nomads And of course, the Novgorodians built ushkui (boats, boats, etc.) long before the invasion of felt walls from the east by the people, I only assert that the word itself was Tartars, or, if you like, Bulgarian zymology, because previously this name was not found in historical documents
  16. 0
    23 June 2019 11: 17
    Where is Mikhailo Potyk?
    1. VLR
      0
      23 June 2019 15: 36
      In the first article ("Heroes of epics and their possible prototypes") there is little about him.
  17. 0
    27 June 2019 16: 09
    However, one can more likely assume that Vaska acts here as a typical “criminal authority” and a racketeer.
    Typical ear