Lend-Lease: Interest and Comparisons

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“Now they say that the Allies never helped us ... But it cannot be denied that the Americans drove so many materials without which we could not build up our reserves and could not continue the war ... We got 350 thousand cars, but what cars !. We didn’t have explosives, gunpowder. There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder, explosives. And how much they drove us to sheet steel. How could we quickly set up production tanksif not for American steel help. And now they present the matter in such a way that we had all of this in abundance. ”
Karpov V.V. Marshal Zhukov: Opala. M .: Veche, 1994


Lend-Lease in numbers. Released not so long ago article on the Lend-Lease on the materials of the newspaper "Pravda" aroused the obvious interest of the “VO” readership, but the comments on it personally left a strange impression on me. Well, let's say, tolerantly speaking, some people just read it inattentively, and commented on it without thinking at all. And someone read in it what was not there at all, and why so, it is not clear at all. Meanwhile, it was written in black and white that it is, in fact, a reprint of the official document from the Pravda newspaper. Which has been made in order that this source became known to readers "IN". And, by the way, there was immediately a person who found both this number of the newspaper and a copy of the “Message ...” and put it in his commentary. Why didn't I do this? But it became curious whether anyone has enough skills with a computer to work and interest in this topic. I see that there is a skill, and there is enough interest, although not all. Many immediately began scribbling "accusations" of Russophobia, and God knows what else, but this is all about Pravda, the press organ of the Central Committee of the CPSU (B). For me personally, this is nothing more than an official source of information, which for some reason in our country has not been used for a long time. I just put the stingy lines of a dry newspaper message in a readable literary text. Everything! So do not look for devils in the censer, it is stupid, and I would even say meaningless. Who is trying to refute this way? The document, the publication of which permission was given by Stalin himself? For it is unlikely that 11 of June 1944 of the year without its indication in print could have appeared a document containing such important information for the country. Many, however, expressed wishes for more specific information, as well as comparisons and comparisons ... Well, now we will continue this topic! But first, let's think, why did this “Message ...” appear at all?



Lend-Lease: Interest and Comparisons

US President Franklin D. Roosevelt Signs Lend-Lease Law


An article in Pravda is a good PR!


As you know, in the USSR there was no PR, and even more than that, theses defended themselves, where it was explicitly stated that this was an invention of the bourgeoisie with the aim of duping the working people. And yes, it really is. But it is like a hammer with which you can smash your head, and you can hammer nails. For example, what did the residents of Berlin feel when they saw how strongly tanned young men in white shorts and girls in short skirts pass in front of them, striking a step? And what did Muscovites think when girls in white shorts and boys in white trousers walked in the same way on Red Square? Both those and others rejoiced, and experienced exactly the same positive emotions. This, by the way, is the real PR, which has always been in our country, not only in words, of course, but in practice! Why at first Hitler in the same “Pravda” was called a cannibal and painted offensive cartoons on him? The enemy was, and the enemy must be laughed at! And why, after the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, they began to call him the “Chancellor of the German Nation” and send congratulations? And because now we were "friends", and friends are useless to scold.


For those who want to get acquainted with all the details history Lend-Lease - with all the dates, figures and testimonies of the Russian participants in the war, we can recommend the book: By Albert L. Weeks, Lexington Books, New York, 2004.


Here and the publication of a message from 11 June 1944, the goal of informational influence on the society of the USSR and ... the leadership of Nazi Germany. In our people, of course, we have already felt the weariness of the war and its burden, and it was necessary to “please” it, to show how much everything is sent to us, that with such support “victory will be ours”. Accordingly, Hitler’s leadership, which Pravda also read, was given a clear message: “You cannot be defeated by us with such help from the United States, Britain and Canada.” That is why these completely secret figures were made public in it, and they were absolutely correct. What if the Germans would find out, say, overestimated, through some of their spy channels? Then everything could be attributed to "Bolshevik propaganda." And then, n-ee, in Pravda everything is true! Can you imagine what a blow it was to the consciousness of the German leadership? So the publication of this message should be considered as a very intelligent and thoughtful course of the Soviet leadership in its informational opposition to Nazi Germany. The significance of this message is indicated by the fact that its text was reprinted with ALL ARMY FRONT NEWSPAPERS. For example, I got his text in the newspaper 4-th Guards Tank Army "To defeat the enemy." Excerpts from the message reprinted ALL local newspapers, such as "Stalin's flag", "Working Truth", "Stalin's way" and others. And the letters "from the people", published in them in response; “With deep satisfaction ...” and so on, the citizens of the USSR wrote in them. Another thing is that later this information became profitable to be silent about, which is why neither Zhukov, Yakovlev, nor their ilk referred to this official source. That is, there was freedom of speech and freedom not to enjoy this freedom!


September 1940 of the year. US destroyers at the port of Davenport. "Destroyers in exchange for bases"


"Dervish" and other PQ


Surprisingly, many VO readers do not see at all what is written in the text before their eyes, and the official text. Foaming at the mouth - otherwise you will not say, they claim that ... help came only at the end of the war, and at the beginning it was not there. But is it? To begin with, the industrial potential of the two countries at war against Hitler - Great Britain and the USSR in general terms as of June 1941, was 1: 1. In this case, Britain actually lost the battle for the Atlantic, because of which even went to an unprecedented agreement "destroyers in exchange for the base" with the non-fighting at the time the United States. And the question arises, how can you help another country when you have a “case of joints”? However, please note that in the “Message ...” the following dates of commencement of deliveries are indicated: from the UK - “From 22 June 1941 of the year to 30 of April of 1944 –th”. That is, it is clear that it wasn’t something we’ve already been sent to 22 of June, but the negotiations on deliveries began immediately after the start of the war and were positive, otherwise Pravda would have said it!


The flagship of the convoy PQ-6 cruiser "Edinburgh"


But the data on the first Atlantic convoys from the UK, held in 1941 year. The first convoy was called "Dervish" and did not yet have a letter designation. The Dervish departed from 21 August Iceland and arrived in Arkhangelsk 31 August 1941. It was followed by PQ-1 (Iceland 29 September - Arkhangelsk 11 October); PQ-2 (Liverpool October 13 - Arkhangelsk October 30); PQ-3 (Iceland 9 November - Arkhangelsk 22 November); PQ-4 (Iceland 17 November - Arkhangelsk 28 November); PQ-5 (Iceland 27 November - Arkhangelsk 13 December); PQ-6 (Iceland December 8 - Murmansk December 20).

The Dervish consisted of 6 ships carrying 10 000 tons of rubber, 1 500 tons of soldiers' boots, tin, wool, industrial equipment, ammunition 3 800 depth charges and magnetic mines, and 15 disassembled fighters "Hrichein". Another 24 aircraft "Hurricane" was on board the aircraft carrier "Argus". The PQ-1 already included 10 of commercial ships loaded with aluminum, rubber and copper, 20 tanks and 193 Hurricane fighters. What was put up by other convoys is probably also known, but finding this information is not so easy. However, judging by the list of understanding of what is required in the first place, then it was not yet. For example, it is not very clear whether we really needed these depth charges and whether it was not more useful to order more of the same copper or machine tools. But the British, too, could not give all that we wanted. So the balance of interests associated with military supplies from England, before the US entered the war, was clearly not in our favor. However, it is also clear that “one’s own shirt is always closer to the body” and why this is so is understandable. Moreover, we emphasize that, according to the Anglo-Soviet agreement of 27 June 1942, the military aid of Great Britain to the Soviet Union during the war was declared completely free. But until this date, the USSR paid for supplies in gold and currency, that is, in fact, bought what was sent to him on these first convoys.


One of the ships involved in the wiring of the northern convoys. Cruiser "Devonshire"


Numbers, percentages and comments ...


Many readers of “VO” in their comments expressed their wishes to get acquainted with the comparative indicators of lend-lease supplies. However, another A.S. Pushkin wrote: “How to compare, yes to see ...”, and he was undoubtedly absolutely right. So let's see and compare: how much of what was produced in the USSR, how much was supplied under Lend-Lease and in what percentage is one with the other.
• Explosives: 558 thousand tons produced; 295,6 thousand tons delivered; 53%.
• Copper: 534 thousand tons produced; 404 KT; 76%.
• Aluminum: 283 thousand tons; 301 KT; 106%.
• Tin: 13 KT; 29 KT; 223%.
• Aviabenzin: 4700 thousand tons; 2586 KT; 55%.
• Car tires: 5953 thousand; 3659 thousand; 62%.
• Railway cars: 1086 pcs .; 11 075 units; 1020%.
• Railway rails: 1 101,1 thousand tons; 622,1tys. tons; 57%.
• Sugar: 995 thousand tons; 658 KT; 66%.
• Canned meat: 432,5 million cans; 2077 million cans; 480%.
• Animal fats: 565 thousand tons; 602 KT; 107%.

And now let's think about what this or that indicator means in practice. Half of the gunpowder and explosives used in the course of hostilities are lend-lease supplies. So every second bullet and every second projectile, a bomb or a torpedo, a hand grenade or a mine produced the effect they had due to ... supplies. Every second shot at the enemy was "foreign" - that's how it is! And how many Germans killed all these bullets shells and bombs? Probably a lot, is not it? But they could not have killed if they were not there and then ... they would have killed our soldiers! By the way, besides the actual explosives, 22 was also supplied to a million shells and 991 a million different shells for shells.


TNT boxes for lend-lease


Copper delivered 76%. But copper is just the very bullets with which the soldiers of the Red Army killed Wehrmacht soldiers. And this is a lot more, without which the war can not go successfully. Aluminum - "metal of war". Over the years of the Great Patriotic War, our aluminum manufacturer UAZ has never fulfilled its supply plan for all 100%. But the demand for aluminum was covered by the supply of Lend-Lease. And it is clear why at first our planes were worse than German ones, and only then the situation began to straighten. By the way, aluminum, delivered under Lend-Lease in the USSR, would be sufficient for the production of all Soviet combat aircraft during two years of war. We'll keep silent about tin in general, but we will pay attention to aviation gasoline - every second flight of our aircraft was carried out on imported fuel. We lacked our own! As well as car tires. You can't get far without a spare tire!

Well, after all, not only gasoline was supplied to us. Equipment was also supplied to establish its own production. And its supply was such that the annual output of the Soviet aviation fuel during the war years increased from 110 000 tons in 1941 to 1 670 000 tons in 1944.

Food supplies were also very important. What is the bitterness of life? Sweet sugar! And - it was delivered 62% of the volume of its own production. Canned and animal fats - the same! "How to burst, and you will sink!" - Our proverb says, and this is very true.

And the number of deliveries included army shoes 15 417 000 pairs, blankets 1 541 590, alcohol 331 066 liters and buttons (and without them, even pants will not be worn!) 257 723 498 pieces!


Spitfire-V Soviet Air Force


Reverse Lend-Lease: Herring and Military Secrets


Some of our “informed” readers are very fond of writing in the comments about the Mongolian horses and camels that came to Berlin, and also about the so-called “reverse Lend-Lease”. But horses cannot be harnessed to Katyusha! For the entire war, the domestic auto industry delivered only 600 (!) Vehicles (mainly ZiS-6) suitable for installing this weapon system on them, while under the Lend-Lease from the USA about 20 thousand cars were delivered, on the chassis of which Katyusha "Just mounted. Not on the backs of the Mongolian camels and not at all on carts (although the project for the production of such an installation, moreover, existed at the Penza Pipe Plant!), Drawn by the Mongol horses! World War II was a war of motors, not horses!


A very good photo in the newspaper Pravda. We are not alone in the fight against Hitler, help will come


As for the "return deliveries", then ... for example, the Rodina magazine, which for some reason was not held in high esteem among the "experts" of the VO, spoke about them, for example. They supplied both wood and alloying additives ... But, most importantly, the convoys that were traveling from Russia back to England along the northern route were brought there. Do you know what? Ice cream and salted fish! Yes, yes, during almost the entire war we fed the British with our fish, because it was difficult for them to catch it in the Atlantic. And some of the fish were made specifically for ... Winston Churchill. He was specially prepared for Solvenian herring, which he used to bite ... Armenian cognac! So here it is entirely possible to say that our Siberian fishermen literally saved the British, if not from starvation, then from sensitive malnutrition. In addition, the USSR’s decision to transfer the technology of gunpowder production for the engines of our Katyusha MLRS to the Americans became especially valuable for the United States, as it does not sound surprising. In this area, as it turned out, the USSR had a significant priority, which allowed, firstly, to establish the release of the necessary gunpowder for “Katyusha” in the United States, and secondly, this solution allowed us to solve the problem of quickly providing this weapons and the American army, which sharply increased its fire superiority over the enemy. Both the Kalliop installations on tanks and the underwing missiles hanging under the Thunderbolts and Lightings would not have appeared if we had not shared our secrets in this area with the Allies. But Stalin even demanded a patent from abroad to protect a double-loading fuse on a mortar, if only this simple device would not fall into the hands of allies, who lost a lot of soldiers from double-loading.

Accordingly, what was not given to us was ... heavy bombers. The reason is clear. Such a weapon, if we had mastered it well, could already pose a danger to the United States and Britain themselves after the war, and the leadership of these countries was well aware of this. The USSR was not allowed to secret development of atomic weapons!


Article from the newspaper "Red Star" from 25.11.1941 year. Then it was a trend to speak well of Lend-Lease tanks


"Matilda" tanker Chibisov


Again, for some reason, the question of quality constantly arises. And he should not get up! People always help ... not the best, leaving the last to themselves. And this is normal! And only when there is a lot of “better”, they share it. That is why the first Hurricane fighters were delivered to us, and not the Spitfire. At the same time, Matilda tanks were not very needed in England itself and that is why they went to the USSR. Well, what Soviet tankers liked and what not, they will tell us the memoirs of the famous tanker V.P. Chibisov "English tanks at Steep Log" (Novosibirsk, 1996).

Having fallen into an English tank as a commander, Chibisov in his memoirs described in detail everything he liked and everything he didn’t like, namely the mediocre attack of these tanks at Krutoy Log, where the Germans burned most of the vehicles of his unit, and he himself was captured by them.

Let's start with the positive. So, he really liked the "infantry-anti-aircraft" machine gun "Bren", which he called the "gentleman machine gun". Nothing more, all the details are perfectly fitted, all angles are rounded, it shoots very accurately. The machine gun "Demon", in his opinion, was just a "workhorse", reliable, but no more. Everything in the tank was surprising: both how quietly its diesels worked, and the fact that the entire tank was covered with a layer of sponge rubber from the inside, so it was possible to ride inside it without a helmet, as it was simply impossible to hit your head with metal. The spring seat was comfortable, on which it was possible to "ride" up and down, it was easy to disassemble and had a sight (unlike ours for the 45-mm gun) and the gun itself, with a smaller caliber, not inferior to ours in armor penetration. But most of all he was struck by the “concern for people”, about their convenience. So, the boxes for shells resembled suitcases and were made of varnished plywood, so they were very light, unlike ours. A small primus was attached to the tank for heating food, which was also very convenient. And he wrote that the British did all this for the war, but unlike us it wasn’t rude, clumsy to just drive and shoot, but with concern for the convenience of those who would ride and shoot. I did not like the "sea tarp" included in the set of tank inventory. Light thin and durable, in Russian frost, it hardened so that it turned into tin. I did not like the Thompson submachine gun that came with the tank. Very "thick bullets" and with 50 m did not penetrate the German helmet, although they left a decent dent in it! A lot of complaints from the tankers caused the chassis. The tank walked well on sand and snow, but on the slopes in ice became virtually uncontrollable. It was necessary to weld “spurs” onto the tracks, but their thickness had to be strictly determined, otherwise they would cling to an armored bulwark. The armor with a thickness of 78 mm was respected, but the political officers told the tankers that we had handed the British the recipe for our armor from the KV tank, but the British were unable to make high-quality armor with a thickness of 75 mm, so they have 78. Another story was the story that on the Czech tanks, which Chibisov had already seen knocked out, there were English machine guns. The caliber is the same as that of the Germans - 7,92-mm. That is, the British imperialists profit from the war, sell machine guns "Demon" to the Germans! Well, about how all this was actually, the VO has already been told.

That is, the significance of Lend-Lease also lies in the fact that our Soviet citizens in large numbers got acquainted with Western technology, flew on their planes, worked with their radars, direction finders, radio stations and other devices, worked on imported modern machines and industrial equipment. And they saw that all this can, it turns out, be done and ... without the "achievements of socialism", or rather, these achievements themselves are still quite far from this technique.


Photo in the Pravda newspaper for No.327 from 25 on November 1941, although the Matilda tank itself is not very visible on it. By the way, about the Matilda tanks, the Penza newspaper Stalin's Banner in 1941 wrote as follows: “... the tanks of Captain Morozov’s unit stood out with their impressive appearance ... These are English tanks with powerful diesel engines that operate clearly and silently ... From the very first days studying English tanks, our soldiers were convinced of their high qualities. The multi-ton tank is very mobile. It has steel armor, simple controls and powerful firearms to combat enemy tanks and infantry ... Of great interest were armored British transporters following the convoy. "They are well armed, their weapons can equally well hit air and ground targets."

Well, the role of the same Matilda tanks in battles near Moscow is indicated by the fact that a photograph of this tank, and also a close-up, again, got on the front page of the newspaper Pravda. Even the Hurricane even hit only the second. Everyone understood what it meant then. It was a kind of language without words. The size of the photograph and the place where it was placed spoke for them!


It is clear that such sources are not for everyone. Heavy, voluminous, takes a lot of time to read ... But ... interesting! Here is “Truth” from 1942 of the year


"The investigation is conducted by experts"


Mentioning about the convoys of the northern route, there is no doubt that there is a “connoisseur” who has read the same Pikul and will report that in the 1942 year the agreed delivery plans were fulfilled only by 55 percent. And in the most difficult time of the preparation of the Kursk operation (in Washington and London they knew about this work), deliveries were interrupted for 9 months and started again only in September 1943. And it is clear that such a long break is not a technical issue, but a political one! That is, these are the "machinations" of the imperialists. So writes, for example, someone O. B. Rakhmanin, and someone could read it, and not only him, by the way, this information is also widely distributed. The main thing is to immediately begin to expose. However, this historian is not too accurate. Deliveries were not stopped for 9 months, but for 6, and only along the Northern route. But there were other routes. Through the Far East and Iran, and here supplies on them at this time significantly increased.


But you open such a binder and find a lot of interesting things in it. For example, this: a toast to the Anglo-Soviet-American Union, although until recently, the newspaper had just as beautifully proclaimed a toast to “brothers in arms” - Germany and the USSR. That’s where it turns out that we got the ability to “change shoes” right on the go - from Pravda. And then J. Orwell will write about this in the novel “1984”: “Oceania has always fought with Eurasia!”


Well, a story will still follow about repayment of debts ...
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  1. +1
    3 August 2019 06: 16
    Quote: hohol95
    Our people deserved all this in much greater quantities!

    This is the most correct judgment!
  2. +2
    3 August 2019 11: 54
    It is clear and understandable that Lend-Lease helped us. Although not disinterestedly. Why pound water in a mortar? I didn’t understand the disdainful attitude in the article about helping Mongolia. Yes, the horses weren’t equipped with rocket launchers, that’s a no brainer. But if they weren’t there, there wouldn’t be so many cavalry divisions and corps. There would not have been cavalry-mechanized groups, which were actively used in 44-45, in my opinion the best means of that time for pursuing the enemy, raiding the rear, and developing operational success. And you need to look at the proportions and ratios. After all, the USA is a large and developed country, unlike small Mongolia. It turns out that the Mongolian People's Republic gave away the last things, both horses, food, and warm clothes. What was also beneficial for the USSR was that at first the MPR supplied all this to pay off the debts it had to our country. Well, money for the construction of tank columns and aircraft was provided by the Mongols free of charge. This is the point of the articles about Mongolian assistance.
  3. 0
    3 August 2019 16: 14
    Quote: ccsr
    Otherwise, some modern universities are no match for the Soviet ones, which I graduated from during the time of Brezhnev.

    Source studies were also taught under Brezhnev. Open any one.
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 12: 20
      Quote: kalibr
      Source studies were also taught under Brezhnev. Open any one.

      This may have happened at a humanitarian university, but I can’t remember that this was taught at a technical university.
  4. -3
    3 August 2019 16: 14
    Quote: ccsr
    Otherwise, some modern universities are no match for the Soviet ones, which I graduated from during the time of Brezhnev.

    Source studies were also taught under Brezhnev. Open any one.
  5. -2
    3 August 2019 16: 17
    Quote: ccsr
    And you cite editorials, not resolutions. Moreover, who told you that propaganda material could not be used in the Resolutions?
    Quote: kalibr
    And you are still twitching...

    You twitch when they rightly point out to you that deliveries from the UK could not begin immediately after June 22, even if Pravda wrote about it.

    How much nonsense can you write? IN TRUTH there was NOT an EDITORIAL, but the OFFICIAL TEXT of the government message. Open the newspaper and see for YOURSELF!
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 12: 26
      Quote: kalibr
      IN TRUTH there was NOT an EDITORIAL, but the OFFICIAL TEXT of the government message.

      Just don’t distort - you first said something here about the Resolution for the sake of credibility, now you say that it was a message, and this is the “editorial”, because they were usually published in the first column of the first page. You either do not understand the difference between the Resolution and the message, or you are simply trying to get away with it, which is too noticeable.
      Quote: kalibr
      Open the newspaper and see for YOURSELF!

      I saw enough of them in Soviet times, and I myself carried out the work according to the Resolutions, so you will sell such nonsense to someone else, because I know well how the propaganda in Pravda differs from the real instructions set out in the texts of the Resolutions.
  6. -1
    3 August 2019 16: 17
    Quote: ccsr
    And you cite editorials, not resolutions. Moreover, who told you that propaganda material could not be used in the Resolutions?
    Quote: kalibr
    And you are still twitching...

    You twitch when they rightly point out to you that deliveries from the UK could not begin immediately after June 22, even if Pravda wrote about it.

    How much nonsense can you write? IN TRUTH there was NOT an EDITORIAL, but the OFFICIAL TEXT of the government message. Open the newspaper and see for YOURSELF!
  7. -1
    3 August 2019 16: 18
    Quote: kalibr
    The resolutions could not use propaganda material?

    Hard case!
  8. -2
    3 August 2019 16: 18
    Quote: kalibr
    The resolutions could not use propaganda material?

    Hard case! You couldn't imagine it!
    1. +1
      4 August 2019 16: 49
      Quote: kalibr
      Hard case! You couldn't imagine it!

      Well, you shouldn’t take everyone here as illiterate, especially since your bias is obvious to any unbiased reader.
      Enlighten:
      DECISION OF THE POLITIBURO OF THE CPSU(B) Central Committee ON MEASURES FOR THE LIQUIDATION OF KULAC FARMS IN AREAS OF COMPLETE COLLECTIVIZATION. 30.1.1930

      Based on the policy of eliminating the kulaks as a class and in connection with this, out of the need to carry out in the most organized way the process of liquidation of kulak farms that began in areas of complete collectivization, to decisively suppress the attempts of counter-revolutionary opposition of the kulaks to the collective farm movement of the peasant masses, Recognizing the urgency of these activities in connection with the approaching agricultural crisis. campaign, the Central Committee decides:

      http://xn--e1aaejmenocxq.xn--p1ai/node/13992
      Aren't these political statements used as propaganda material on the ground?
  9. +3
    3 August 2019 20: 19
    About Lend-Lease and Shpakovsky

    Shpakovsky, in his role, as always tries to shock readers with the next “revelations”, now he is trying to exaggerate the role of Lend-Lease in the Victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. But because at the institute, he did not fully understand dialectics, then he uses a metaphysical method to evaluate all events, while the situation must be looked at in dynamics.

    Of course, there was help from the Allies, thanks to them for that, but it did not play a decisive role in the most difficult moments of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1943. Supplies increased gradually, and a large number of them occurred in 1944-1945, when the USSR itself increased its power.

    Yes, the first foreign tanks appeared in November 1941, but there were only a few vehicles, i.e. at the most decisive moment, the share of, for example, foreign aid at that time was a fraction of a percent.

    In total, during the war, Lend-Lease deliveries of tanks amounted to 12,3%, self-propelled guns to 7,8%, the share of aircraft was 13%, and artillery was only 2,7%. , small arms approximately - 0,75%. of the total quantity produced in the USSR in 1941-1945.

    There were serious deliveries of cars; Lend-Lease vehicles in the Soviet vehicle fleet accounted for 64%. but they also forget that this figure is the total for the entire war. In the first years of the war, the number of automotive vehicles was low - that’s why Mongolian horses were needed.

    For example, in 1942, imported cars accounted for only 0,4%; it was only at the final stage of the war that by January 1945 their share amounted to 30%. The peak of gunpowder supplies also occurred at the end of the war. The picture is similar with all other supplies.

    Even for the main types of supplies, the share of Lend-Lease products in the total volume of production and supplies to the USSR does not exceed 28%. In general, the share of Lend-Lease products in the total volume of materials, equipment, food, machinery, raw materials, etc. produced and supplied to the USSR is usually estimated at 4%.
  10. -1
    3 August 2019 20: 26
    Quote: Alexander Green
    usually estimated at 4%.

    Scoops!
    1. +3
      4 August 2019 13: 00
      Quote: kalibr
      Scoops!

      Why scoops? You can do the math yourself.
    2. +2
      4 August 2019 13: 05
      And here is a diagram of US aircraft deliveries to the USSR by year, which confirms the need for a dialectical approach to analyzing any event.
      1. -2
        4 August 2019 13: 42
        At first there was nothing to supply; we had to do it ourselves. The ports suck, logistics are not organized. You can't do all this instantly. Once we did it, everything went well.
        1. +1
          4 August 2019 16: 52
          Quote: kalibr
          At first there was nothing to supply; we had to do it ourselves.

          This is a lie - the Lend-Lease law allowed for the rental of equipment and weapons from the US Army, i.e. there was something to deliver.
        2. +3
          4 August 2019 19: 46
          Quote: kalibr
          You can't do all this instantly. Once we did it, everything went well.

          This is what you should have taken into account in your article, so as not to exaggerate the importance of Lend-Lease for the USSR. But for you, the main thing was: to shock readers, and not to make a real analysis.
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  12. +1
    4 August 2019 18: 21
    Apparently the author does not see any benefit for the United States in this. Give weapons to both and let them kill each other as much as possible. And we will come and bury their corpses, rape their women and take away their lands.
  13. 0
    4 August 2019 19: 48
    Quote: ccsr
    Don't tell me - they print much more waste paper there now than in Soviet times, so you shouldn't take everything at face value if it was printed in the USA.

    There are links to archives there. Open. You can request and check. It's clear?
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 12: 34
      Quote: kalibr
      There are links to archives there. Open. You can request and check. It's clear?

      So why didn’t you use them in your article, but took as a basis the newspaper Pravda, where even the timing of the arrival of the first batch of weapons from Great Britain does not correspond to reality, which I told you based on the memoirs of F. Golikov, if you know who it is and what he was doing at the time.
  14. -2
    4 August 2019 19: 50
    Quote: ccsr
    Well, don’t take everyone here for illiterate people,

    You are the first among them!
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 12: 35
      Quote: kalibr
      You are the first among them!

      May be. But unlike you, I’m not an opportunist who “wouldn’t spare my father for the sake of a catchphrase.”
  15. -2
    4 August 2019 19: 51
    Quote: Alexander Green
    This is what you should have taken into account in your article, so as not to exaggerate the importance of Lend-Lease for the USSR. But for you, the main thing was: to shock readers, and not to make a real analysis.

    But this should be clear to the smart ones... The genies did not work for the Americans to build a port and build a railway overnight. And for everyone else... the Bible says this well.
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 23: 05
      Quote: kalibr
      The Bible says it well about this.

      What does the History of the CPSU say about this?
      1. -1
        5 August 2019 07: 30
        The Bible is more relevant now. This is how our commies are licking their priests today... Where is the CPSU? In the dustbin of history!
        1. +3
          5 August 2019 10: 21
          Quote: kalibr
          The Bible is more relevant now.

          Looking for someone,
          Quote: kalibr
          Where is the CPSU? In the dustbin of history!

          And rumors about the death of the CPSU are somewhat exaggerated.
  16. -1
    4 August 2019 19: 54
    Quote: ccsr
    Aren't these political statements used as propaganda material on the ground?

    No! This is the source, and the PRIMARY one. It's not my fault that you don't understand this. Or rather, you don’t know. For such statements, students receive a failure in source studies. Open the FGIOS on Source Studies Network. At least this will enlighten you a little.
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 23: 20
      Quote: kalibr
      No! This is the source, and the PRIMARY one.

      You are mistaken, “respected scientist.” The primary sources of such information are requests for supplies and receipts for receiving them, and the newspaper is not even a secondary source, because information could only have gotten into it from a certificate from the supply department, or a report, or something else of the same kind.
      Ay-yay-yay, how did you teach students if you don’t know that primary documents or primary sources are documents which contain registered information,
      1. -1
        5 August 2019 06: 42
        Quote: Alexander Green
        which contain registered information,
        Reply

        I know. But when these sources are classified and there are no others, then OFFICIAL statements become such where they are published. In this case, this is the official source - the newspaper Pravda, the organ of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party)b)
        1. +2
          5 August 2019 10: 10
          Quote: kalibr
          I know. But when these sources are classified and there are no others, then OFFICIAL statements become such where they are published.

          These are all your inventions. Because primary sources are classified, secondary sources, whatever one may say, do not become primary. .
          1. +1
            6 August 2019 19: 25
            Government reports published in the press organ of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks are, by definition, primary sources.
            1. 0
              7 August 2019 11: 17
              Quote: kalibr
              Government reports published in the press organ of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks are, by definition, primary sources.

              Where did you find this definition? Something got mixed up again...
    2. +1
      5 August 2019 12: 46
      Quote: kalibr
      For such statements, students receive a failure in source studies. Open the FGIOS on Source Studies Network. At least this will enlighten you a little.

      Relax, professor, I don’t care about your “source studies,” because there are some that have already become historical documents of the last years of the USSR, where I am listed as the performer on the back of the last page. True, this applies to MO, but after many years, perhaps your students will become familiar with them if the bar is removed from them. So train them well, but not on the basis of newspaper articles, so that they do not make erroneous conclusions about when Lend-Lease began and the first deliveries of weapons and property from the allies.
  17. 0
    4 August 2019 21: 47
    Quote: Stas157
    But if they didn’t exist, then perhaps there would be supplies from other countries, and a lot would be produced ourselves.

    Which ones are these? From Mars?
  18. 0
    4 August 2019 21: 48
    Quote: ccsr
    This is a lie - the Lend-Lease law allowed for the rental of equipment and weapons from the US Army, i.e. there was something to deliver.
    Reply

    There are 300 tanks for the entire army! Don't make people laugh!
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 12: 51
      Quote: kalibr
      There are 300 tanks for the entire army! Don't make people laugh!

      In addition to tanks, the US Army had a huge number of other weapons, and especially those that our country primarily needed - artillery systems, communications equipment, aircraft, engineering equipment, and most importantly - vehicles.
      So the Americans could begin deliveries in much larger volumes already in 1941-1942.
  19. 0
    4 August 2019 21: 50
    Quote: ccsr
    We are forced to order shells for it, and it is not a fact that they will be supplied as part of Lend-Lease, and will not require payment for such a delivery, especially if it is expensive ammunition. This is where American companies profited - for example, they refused to supply repair kits for tank radio stations, and when we asked to include them in the delivery package, they refused, forcing us to buy an entire radio station.

    Source and link to it!
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 13: 01
      Quote: kalibr
      Source and link to it!

      Tarasov Vyacheslav Mikhailovich, the late colonel of the GRU, who during the war served in the Air Force Research Institute and was involved in the development of transition devices for docking captured German and American radio stations to connect them to the on-board network and antenna equipment of our aircraft. He was sent to the troops to re-equip entire squadrons when the required number of foreign radio stations was recruited. So he talked a lot about how things were then with supplies under Lend-Lease, and why the Americans refused to supply us with spare parts and production for the manufacture of simple wires and communication cables, and why there was an acute shortage of these products in the troops throughout the war.
  20. 0
    4 August 2019 21: 51
    Quote: snerg7520
    558 thousand tons produced; 295,6 thousand tons delivered; 53%

    Subtract from 558 295 and how much is it?
    1. +3
      4 August 2019 23: 37
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: snerg7520
      558 thousand tons produced; 295,6 thousand tons delivered; 53%
      Subtract from 558 295 and how much is it?

      According to your arithmetic, how much was it? The percentage is determined as follows:.
      1) Determine the total quantity produced и delivered 558+295,6=853,6 thousand tons,
      2) Determine the percentage produced to the total number 558/853,6=65,4%
      3) Determine the percentage delivered to the total number 295,6/853,6=34,6%
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 06: 35
        Once again, for the literate, WE PRODUTED 556 like this?
        Did you set it to 295 SO? Or is it not?
        295 is so much from 556. Why do you take a percentage of both OUR PRODUCED and FROM SENT?
        You have THREE APPLES. I GAVE YOU THREE MORE. ONLY 6. Right? Did I give you half or a third of this amount?
        1. +2
          5 August 2019 10: 01
          Quote: kalibr
          Why do you take a percentage of both OUR PRODUCED and FROM SENT?

          To calculate the contribution to the Victory. in relative units (or percentages) the base is taken, and this is the sum of everything produced, and relative to this value, the contribution of each side is determined.. So it turns out that the American contribution according to this nomenclature is approximately one third.
          1. -1
            5 August 2019 13: 02
            There is no need for either relative or approximate...they produced 558. They delivered 293. ALL. Accessible to the most unperverted mind. Inaccessible to the perverted.
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 17: 27
              Quote: kalibr
              Accessible to the most unperverted mind. Inaccessible to the perverted.

              Those who studied well at school think correctly, as it should be, and not as bad students like or as they can achieve..
  21. 0
    5 August 2019 10: 39
    Quote: Alexander Green
    And rumors about the death of the CPSU are somewhat exaggerated.

    And where is she? Lives and wins?
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 17: 31
      Quote: kalibr
      And where is she? Lives and wins?

      It still lives, but now Bolshevism is in demand again, which recognizes the class struggle up to the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. http://bolshevick.org
  22. -1
    5 August 2019 10: 43
    Nowhere in the material does it SAY what is considered a CONTRIBUTION to victory. We are talking about how much WE PRODUCED, and HOW MUCH WE DELIVERED IN COMPARISON WITH THIS. Everything else is a numbers game. You grew three apples, they gave you three more. How much is this? What is unclear? Or are you completely tormented by age-related dementia?
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 17: 40
      Quote: kalibr
      You grew three apples, they gave you three more. How much is this? What is unclear? Or are you completely tormented by age-related dementia?

      You will make your grandchildren poor students, take a textbook on statistics, then you will understand that the three apples that you were given are 1/2 of what you now have. Same with Lend-Lease...
  23. +2
    5 August 2019 12: 10
    Quote: ccsr
    Did he serve in the People's Commissariat of Defense of the USSR, that he could know the exact figure? It's not even funny to refer to such sources of "information". By the way, how did he take into account the decommissioning of equipment?

    I didn’t take write-offs into account; I took output from 5 factories where I personally visited on a business trip and multiplied it by the number of months of their operation. However, in a report to Hitler, he considered this number too fantastic and decided to divide it by 2, but no one at the General Staff believed 15 thousand.
    1. +1
      5 August 2019 13: 08
      Quote: yehat
      I didn’t take write-offs into account; I took output from 5 factories where I personally visited on a business trip and multiplied it by the number of months of their operation.

      They sold him a lie, apparently showing him a warehouse of finished products for several months, but he believed that it was released in one month, and the province went to write. Even between quarters, there was a difference in the output of our products, and not taking into account the fact that obsolete or worn-out equipment is constantly being written off is simply not serious for a military professional.
  24. +1
    5 August 2019 12: 58
    Then look at this: “Foreign policy of the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War. - T.2: Documents and materials January 1 - December 31, 1944. - M: OGIZ, Gospolitizdat, 1946 - P.142 – 147. Available for the completely stupid...
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 18: 18
      Quote: kalibr
      “Foreign policy of the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War. - T.2: Documents and materials January 1 - December 31, 1944. - M: OGIZ, Gospolitizdat, 1946 - P.142 – 147. Available for the completely stupid...

      And you didn’t even understand this source, but it confirms that Lend-Lease supplies to the USSR during the most difficult years of the war were minimal.
      Quote from your link "Of the sent amount, 7,4 million tons arrived in the Soviet Union, .... including 1941 million tons in 1942-1,2" .
      This is only 16% of supplies in 1941-1944.
  25. +1
    5 August 2019 12: 59
    Quote: ccsr
    so that this is taught in technical universities.

    And who needs source study at a technical university? This is a special discipline of humanitarian universities
  26. 0
    5 August 2019 13: 12
    Quote: ccsr
    So the Americans could have started deliveries in much larger volumes already in 1941-1942.

    The United States did not fight the Germans until December 10, 1941. How to supply anything under Lend-Lease to a country with which you are NOT AN ALLY. Moreover, Soviet holdings in the United States were frozen after the Soviet Union attacked Finland and expelled it from the League of Nations. That is, deliveries could begin only after the relevant agreements were signed. And not right away. There were no ready ports, logistics... You didn’t know that? Well, enlighten yourself, Google to the rescue!
    1. +1
      5 August 2019 13: 25
      Quote: kalibr
      The United States did not fight the Germans until December 10, 1941. How to supply anything under Lend-Lease to a country with which you are NOT AN ALLY.

      So this didn’t stop Great Britain from supplying American weapons under Lend-Lease, but for the USSR, after the attack on June 22, did something stop them?
      Quote: kalibr
      That is, deliveries could begin only after the relevant agreements were signed.

      So Golikov was already negotiating there in July, long before Germany declared war on the United States. And what prevented deliveries from starting within an acceptable time frame in the summer of 1941?
      Quote: kalibr
      There were no ready ports, logistics...

      Did the Americans have no ports? Do not make me laugh...
  27. +1
    6 August 2019 02: 42
    "The percentage relationship is one with the other.
    • Explosives: 558 thousand tons produced; 295,6 thousand tons delivered; 53%.
    • Copper: 534 thousand tons produced; 404 KT; 76%.
    • Aluminum: 283 thousand tons; 301 KT; 106%.
    • Tin: 13 KT; 29 KT; 223%.
    • Aviabenzin: 4700 thousand tons; 2586 KT; 55%.
    • Car tires: 5953 thousand; 3659 thousand; 62%.
    • Railway cars: 1086 pcs .; 11 075 units; 1020%.
    • Railway rails: 1 101,1 thousand tons; 622,1tys. tons; 57%.
    • Sugar: 995 thousand tons; 658 KT; 66%.
    • Canned meat: 432,5 million cans; 2077 million cans; 480%.
    • Animal fats: 565 thousand tons; 602 KT; 107%.

    Now let’s think about what this or that indicator means in practice. Half of the gunpowder and explosives used during the war came from Lend-Lease. This means that every second bullet and every second shell, bomb or torpedo, hand grenade or mine produced its intended effect due to... supplies. Every second shot"
    Well, continue in the same spirit. .
    Let's try some arithmetic:
    "Explosives: 558 thousand tons produced; 295,6 thousand tons delivered - 53%"…
    “Now let’s think about what this or that indicator means in practice. Half of the gunpowder and explosives used during hostilities were supplied under Lend-Lease.”
    558+296=854 means now
    854 thousand tons = 100% of gunpowder and explosives used during the war...
    8,54 thousand tons = 1%
    296 / 8,54 = 34,542% approximately, this is exactly the amount of supply via LL...
    That is, a third, but not half, comes from LL...
    Which does not in any way detract from the importance of these supplies...
    But he greatly belittles Mr. Shpakovsky, who wrote an excellent article, but could not resist inserting his anti-Soviet little line...
    I don’t believe that a person, even if he was hit hard by the party school, forgot arithmetic, not even mathematics!...
    This is rather a later introduction to any PR...
    I didn’t consider the rest, because everything there is also a deliberate mistake towards the West; those who wish can easily count it themselves...
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  29. +1
    6 August 2019 06: 25
    "Saw Shura, Saw ..."
  30. 0
    6 August 2019 19: 03
    Quote: ccsr
    Did the Americans have no ports? Do not make me laugh...

    We have!
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 21: 54
      Quote: kalibr
      We have!

      How did we send weapons and equipment to Spain from Murmansk during their Civil War?
  31. -1
    6 August 2019 19: 05
    Quote: ccsr
    And what prevented deliveries from starting within an acceptable time frame in the summer of 1941?

    No state of war!
  32. -1
    6 August 2019 19: 06
    Quote: Alexander Green
    are 1/2 of what you now have.

    That is half! THREE APPLES FROM SIX IS HALF! Has dementia completely tormented you?
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 20: 24
      Quote: kalibr
      That is half! THREE APPLES FROM SIX IS HALF! Has dementia completely tormented you?

      I'm surprised how you managed to finish school...
  33. 0
    6 August 2019 19: 10
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Bolshevism is in demand

    Soon it will be banned, like in Turkey...
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 20: 32
      Quote: kalibr
      Soon it will be banned, like in Turkey

      So what? This is even good, crooks won’t bother.
  34. +1
    6 August 2019 19: 12
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Those who studied well at school think correctly, as it should be, and not as bad students like or as they can achieve..
    Reply

    I see how you studied at school. You can't take away 6 apples from 3...
  35. +1
    6 August 2019 19: 31
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Those who studied well at school think correctly, as it should be, and not as bad students like or as they can achieve..
    Reply

    I see how you studied at school. You can't take away 6 apples from 3...
    1. +1
      6 August 2019 20: 37
      Quote: kalibr
      I see how you studied at school. You can't take away 6 apples from 3...

      Don’t make people laugh, everyone already understands what your arithmetic skills are.
  36. 0
    7 August 2019 11: 45
    Quote: Alexander Green
    You can't take away 6 apples from 3...

    You can not!
  37. 0
    7 August 2019 11: 46
    Quote: Alexander Green
    It's even good

    And for propaganda and membership on the bunk. Fine!
    1. +1
      7 August 2019 23: 10
      Quote: kalibr
      And for propaganda and membership on the bunk. Fine!

      It builds character.
  38. 0
    7 August 2019 11: 47
    Quote: Alexander Green
    That is half! THREE APPLES FROM SIX IS HALF! Has dementia completely tormented you?
    I'm surprised how you managed to finish school...
    Reply

    There is something to surprise me. This is the first time I’ve heard that three out of six is ​​not half!
    1. +1
      7 August 2019 23: 25
      Quote: kalibr
      There is something to surprise me. This is the first time I’ve heard that three out of six is ​​not half!

      Are all grant eaters really that stupid?
      For the last time I’ll explain, to make it easier for you to understand, I’ll explain it on your apples. I have two apples, you gave me another apple. A bully attacks me, I fight him off with the apples I have
      All three blocks hit the bully in the face and gave him three bruises. Houdigan runs away.
      So I caused 2/3 of the bruises with my apples and 1/3 with your apple. So it is with Lend-Lease weapons.
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        1. +1
          8 August 2019 22: 24
          Quote: kalibr
          And red-bellied people are generally stupid people.

          Oh, who would say,,,,, better read a reference book on statistics.
  39. -1
    7 August 2019 11: 48
    Quote: ccsr
    How did we send weapons and equipment to Spain from Murmansk during their Civil War?

    Secretly! They pretended that they didn’t send anything... And in small quantities. Not comparable to Lend-Lease.
    1. -2
      9 August 2019 17: 26
      Dear V.Sh. , I read the article with great interest, as well as all the comments! Your arguments, supported by obvious facts, sound quite convincing. It’s clear that many people don’t like this, the time is now... You’ve done a lot of work, and probably not everyone will have the civil courage to tell the truth as you did! Respect to you! hi
  40. 0
    31 July 2022 17: 08
    sleek article. They helped through the stumps, but then they had to pay for it. And so on. Of course there is a role for Lend Lease. But not critical. If they wanted to help, they would help more and better. buttons..... You can tie up your pants with a belt. Whether there are buttons or not on the tunic is not visible. If only they had replaced them with wooden ones, they wouldn’t have died from wooden buttons. Why were these buttons collected from the dead?
  41. 0
    15 March 2023 11: 04
    Even before the start of the war, the Nazis received 65 thousands of trucks from Ford offices in Germany, Belgium and France. In addition, the Ford subsidiary in Switzerland has repaired thousands of German trucks. He repaired the German motor transport and the Swiss branch of another American auto giant General Motors, which concurrently was the largest contributor to the German auto concern Opel, successfully cooperating with it throughout the war and receiving fair dividends. But Ford was out of competition!

    According to American military historian Henry Schneider, Ford helped the Germans obtain rubber, vital to German industry. Not only that, until the very beginning of World War II, the owner of the US auto giant supplied Hitler with military equipment; the Fuhrer awarded the hero of the day the highest award of the Third Reich for foreigners - the “Grand Cross of the German Eagle.” The German consul even traveled to Detroit to personally hang a Golden Cross with a swastika on the auto tycoon's chest. Ford was delighted with this award. Over 30 of Detroit's richest residents attended a grand gala dinner on the anniversary, July 1938, 1500.

    Even with the outbreak of World War II, Ford did not stop collaborating with the Nazis. In 1940, Ford refused to assemble engines for aircraft in England, which was at war with Germany, while in the French city of Poissy, its new plant began producing aircraft engines, trucks and cars for the Nazi army, which entered service with the Wehrmacht. And after 1941, Ford's branch in occupied France continued to produce trucks for the Wehrmacht, and its other branch, in Algeria, supplied Hitler's General Rommel with trucks and armored cars. Even in April 1943, when the Soviet Union was fighting bloody battles with the Nazis, Ford's French subsidiaries worked exclusively for the benefit of Germany. Five-ton cargo trucks and Ford passenger cars were the main army transport of the Wehrmacht. The main issue for the corporation remained the question of profit, which it tried to obtain at any cost. At the end of the war, Allied aircraft bombed the plant in Poissy, but did not touch the same Ford plant in Cologne, Germany, although almost the entire ancient city was destroyed. What is noteworthy is that after the war, the Ford company, like its powerful competitor General Motors, thanks to the efforts of major lawyers, achieved compensation from the US government “for damage caused to their property in enemy territory.”

    Ford was far from the only American corporation that had a hand in creating the German military machine. By the time of the outbreak of World War II, the cumulative contributions of American corporations to their German branches and representative offices were about 800 million dollars. Ford's investment is 17,5 million, Standard Oil of New Jersey (now existing under Exxon) - 120 million, General Motors - 35 million, ITT - 30 million.

    For example, American companies supplied thousands of aircraft engines for the Reich aviation and, most importantly, licenses for their production. For example, the BMW Hornet engines that powered the Junkers-52, the most popular transport aircraft in Germany, were manufactured under license from the American company Prat & Whitney.

    General Motors in Germany belonged to Opel. The factories of this company stamped Reich armored vehicles, as well as almost 50% of Junkers-88 bomber power units. In 1943, the German branch of General Motors developed and began producing engines for the Messerschmitt-262 - the first Luftwaffe fighter jet.

    IBM has managed to triple its capital during World War II. Much of it was obtained through cooperation with Hitler. The counting machines supplied through the German branch allowed the Nazis to quickly conduct a census of the population of the occupied countries and determine the number of persons to be arrested (the equipment helped to identify even those Jews who had already carefully concealed their origin for several generations). IBM supplied many departments of the Reich with its calculating machines, spare parts for them and special paper, including concentration camps.

    That is, first America armed Hitler, and then, when it realized that the bet on Hitler had warmed up, it began to arm the USSR. THIS IS NOT HELP - THIS IS TRADE FOR A FAT PIECE OF EUROPE!!!

    SO KEEP YOUR ELIGIBILITY ABOUT US HELP. THEY WERE JUST PAYING SO THAT MORE PEOPLE IN EUROPE WOULD DIE!!!
  42. 0
    1 November 2023 05: 46
    In addition to the columns “produced in the USSR” and “delivered from the USA,” the author forgot two more important columns - how much was BEFORE the war (of the same cars) and how much was spent (that is, how much was enough to wage the war - shells, for example). Without this, all these numbers are just a scam.