About the future of the Airborne Forces

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About the future of the Airborne Forces


Airborne troops are rarely used today as airborne troops. Only at the exercises can you see a drop in a whole unit or even a part. And this trend originated in Afghanistan. Yes, light units quickly moved into combat areas. At the same time, they used not only the "native" BMD, but also the BMP. But it became dangerous to risk divisions if the enemy had decent air defense weapons.

Helicopters and airplanes were used for the early redeployment to combat areas. Sometimes for landing combat intelligence groups. And the other paratroopers?

The rest - "riding" on armored vehicles at high speed. That ensured sufficiently effective use of such units.

Ultimately, when the concept of using amphibious assault forces took on a more or less understandable form, the question arose of additional fire weapons and heavy equipment for the airborne forces. Heroism, possession of improvised means in hand-to-hand combat, the ability to "stand to death" needed to be supported by real tanks and guns. So that the "winged infantry" was able to withstand conventional infantry.

Note that the most difficult means of fire in the Airborne For many years was "Nona-S".



What it is more, 120-mm divisional-regimental cannon, howitzer or mortar, hard to say. Easy, versatile and fairly effective means of dealing with infantry and artillery. In all other cases, paratroopers had to rely on light weaponcarried or carried with you.

The first sign in the upcoming innovations was the "Sprut".



The machine, who saw it in action, is more than peculiar. Nedotank. Tank gun on the basis of the chassis of the developed light tank "Judge" (Object 934) and modular from BMD-4M. Self-propelled anti-tank gun, with a very impressive running and maneuvering characteristics and firing accuracy is not inferior to tanks on which there is the same gun. 125-mm smoothbore gun 2А75, which is an upgrade 2A46, which is in service today. The only difference is that instead of the muzzle brake the recoil length is increased and the suspension of the machine is used to extinguish the energy of the shot.

The second swallow is indeed a swallow. Only on tracks. Speech, as you probably understood, is about the BTR-MD "Shell", which (or which) should be replaced as an honored veteran of the BTR-D. Who saw with his own eyes how this armored cart rushing along the road, he could not remain without impressions.



As you can see, the work on replacing old ones and introducing new types of weapons for the Airborne Forces is underway. Yes, it would be nice to complete everything that revolves around BMD-4M.



Go ahead. And then we have Omsk. There, as you know, there is a large training center for the Airborne Forces. The one where the tragedy occurred, where the barracks fell.

After the tragedy, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu decided to expand the training center in connection with the changing tasks of the Airborne Forces. Construction of new barracks, construction of new educational buildings, a new landfill.

The question arises: why so much new? "We are ours, we will build a new world"? Almost yes. Work on the territory of the center. Unfortunately, getting admission there is virtually impossible. But the following information arrives.

According to the statement of the airborne troops commander Vladimir Shamanov, the Omsk 242-th training center of the airborne forces from this year begins to prepare an expanded range of specialists for the airborne units.

First of all, these are specialists in work with UAVs. Everything is clear here, intelligence gets an eagle eye on the wings.

The next innovation is the training of tankers. It was a very controversial statement by Shamanov about the organization of tank companies in the Airborne Forces. Then a lot of copies were broken on the topic, why goat accordion.

Omsk has a major advantage in the training of such specialists. The fact is that exactly there is a branch of the Moscow Academy of Logistics. And what is especially important, the academy trains not only specialists of higher special education, but also an average link. And about the equipment of the Academy is known far beyond Russia. It is the academy’s specialists who will prepare tankers for T-72B3 amphibious assault troops.



But this is not the limit. In addition to the tankers in the airborne appeared BMP-2. Two brigades of the Eastern Military District will be armed with just such machines. It seems to be a strange choice, however, if you look, nothing strange. BMP-2 and BMD-3 are very similar in TTX. However, the BMP and goes further, and it has more troop compartment. Here, in fact, the whole secret is revealed.



What do we get? It seems to be airborne troops, but with tanks, anti-tank self-propelled artillery, BMP, capable of carrying more personnel and further. Plus a new BTR, in which the 13 man fits.

In our opinion, some reformatting of the Airborne Forces is not far off. From airborne troops to highly mobile troops. The name may not change, the essence, by the way, too. If that - the paratroopers will still be the second to meet the enemy. The first, of course, border guards. But if (God forbid, of course) you have to defend one of our allies, then, undoubtedly, the paratroopers will be the first.

And if we are talking about this vision of the situation, then our realities are as follows: Russia's presence of the most numerous airborne troops in the world obliges these troops not to be regarded as an operational stopper for any problem that arises, but as a force capable of taking the first blow and detain the enemy until the arrival of the main forces. This is the first. And the second - using high equipment and mobility, deliver a preemptive strike to the enemy. And in principle, it does not even matter whether this blow falls from the sky or rolls on the ground. The essence of this does not change.

But turning the Airborne Forces into highly mobile and sufficiently armed troops to solve operational-tactical tasks is a very significant matter. Not at all dissatisfied with the traditions established by Margelov.
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  1. +7
    August 2 2016
    Using high equipment and mobility, deliver a preemptive strike to the enemy.
    I believe that the Airborne Forces will cope with such a task from the best side.
    1. 0
      August 5 2016
      I think if you equip the Airborne Forces with such airplanes then you can try with new equipment. The one that is Almaty, or Krugan, or something on this basis and on the same principles. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2HKaU9iKw
  2. +9
    August 2 2016
    Today on TV I saw the answer of the commander of the airborne assault division in Pskov. "A paratrooper is not only able to break bricks, it is a thinking, one might say, an intellectual fighter. He is capable of solving any tasks assigned to him." I am glad that our military-industrial complex also supports this direction with equipment and other devices that help paratroopers to solve problems. The guys from the landing force deserve pride and respect. I would go myself, but I am already old, but I have 3 jumps behind my shoulders. Happy holidays guys. All the best.
    1. vv3
      +1
      August 2 2016
      I also saw this interview. It's very good that the Airborne Forces have such commanders ... Only there is no intellectual fighter, there must be intellectual, or rather information combat systems. It is a pity that the author of the article did not remember about the Andromeda-D automated control system. In which they plan to soon integrate a UAV. This is a system specially created for the Airborne Forces. Of course, this is more of a command and control system, and its information capabilities, target designation and even reconnaissance capabilities are severely limited. But there are attempts ... With such commanders, I am sure that our lag will be eliminated. Happy Airborne Forces!
  3. +1
    August 2 2016
    Time dictates new conditions for the use of airborne forces, I really want to keep up (this is not in their rules).
  4. +3
    August 2 2016
    Happy Airborne, comrades!
  5. +2
    August 2 2016
    Happy holiday to all of us, because in fact we are so guys! health and success! Good luck with business! drinks
  6. Cat
    -19
    August 2 2016
    In addition to useless bathing in fountains and statements about one’s own elitism, the dying military branch is unremarkable in the light of the growing concept of a global strike, where technology makes it possible to deliver massive attacks to any point on the planet without touching the enemy, and a mass of inert troops that are sensitive to absolutely all types of air defense having low firepower and low autonomy, perhaps with the study of vertical take-off technologies for large ships or the concept of aviation conglomerations such as American airship cities, or with no parachute high-speed landing on the surface, this type of troops will get a new life, while the concept of using current realities are obscure.
    1. +7
      August 2 2016
      I suspect that "your lordship" will die earlier, and the Airborne Forces will live and instill fear in potential opponents.
      1. Cat
        +6
        August 2 2016
        Looking at the hanging hangers on greasy hogs, such thoughts do not arise, who can be defeated by pot-bellied alkanauts who attack citizens attacking with a throw from a fountain like walruses, so should marines celebrate, are they closer to the sea element, what does the airborne forces and fountains have to do with it?
    2. +1
      August 2 2016
      I do not agree. In the event of an invasion of the territory of Russia, will you be naughty in your cities with caliber, smashing industry and infrastructure to smithereens? The Airborne Forces will eliminate such a problem more delicately, and most likely, due to its mobility, will not allow the enemy to enter our cities.
    3. 0
      August 2 2016
      And also polite, in addition! Sarcasm.
      1. Cat
        -3
        August 2 2016
        Not a single regiment of the Airborne Forces took part in the operation in Crimea; there were brigades of marines.
        1. +5
          August 2 2016
          Quote: Cat
          Not a single regiment of the Airborne Forces took part in the operation in Crimea; there were brigades of marines.

          To block and disarm 20 thousand people, well armed, you need a certain set of personnel. And not just in quantity, but also in quality. We needed specialists who know how to do this. Therefore, I gave instructions and instructions to the Ministry of Defense, what to hide, under the guise of reinforcing the protection of our military facilities in the Crimea, to transfer the special units of the Main Intelligence Directorate and the Marine Corps there, paratroopers.
          © God xoxlov
          1. Cat
            -1
            August 3 2016
            The landing is not air, the landing is different, in this case it was landed from the ships of the Black Sea Fleet.
    4. +2
      August 2 2016
      Quote: Cat
      in the meantime, the concept of application in current realities is obscure.
      What is not clear? Namely, in the modern realities of highly maneuverable war, where the concept of rear is becoming more and more conventional, the Airborne Forces are the kind of troops that can provide high mobility and a quick response to various threats. It is not necessary to parachute every time, but it is imperative to have such an opportunity, in case of operational necessity. Yes, those airborne forces with which the history of the troops began, modern airborne forces, and even more so the airborne forces of the future, these are significant differences, but one thing will always remain, this is a high morale and high mobility, readiness at any time to complete a combat mission where it is required. There is no need to predict the "uselessness" of the Airborne Forces, they will also land on Mars, this is the kind of troops that will always be needed. For Russia, with its vastness, the Airborne Forces is a vital branch of the military. God willing, under the banner of the Airborne Forces, they will organize the Corps of the Russian Airborne Troops, which will include our marines, there is nothing for it to remain in the Coastal Service.
      1. Cat
        0
        August 2 2016
        The stealth of five six transport aircraft? Thanks to AWACS, they will be destroyed by interception long before entering the landing zone, and I repeat, a completely useless kind of troops in conditions where our military doctrine does not dictate complete superiority in aerospace.
        1. 0
          August 2 2016
          and so that the interceptors are afraid and develop long-range air defense systems ... Most likely this is much cheaper than fifth-generation aircraft. By principle, we ourselves will not fly, and we won’t let anyone! wink
          1. 0
            August 2 2016
            Quote: nail1972
            and so that the interceptors are afraid and develop long-range air defense systems ...

            Ahem ... in order to hit the interceptors, the range of the air defense system should be approximately 0,7-0,8 * (the distance from the position of the air defense system to the ejection zone) + 0,5-0,6 * (the flight range of the airborne interceptors).
            Moreover, transport workers are a large, subsonic, low-maneuverable target. On it you can safely work with RVV DD - even the antique "phoenix", and he will not miss.
    5. +3
      August 2 2016
      Dying army


      There is such a film, American truth, but the essence of the landing is reflected there as nowhere else accurately. This film is Starship Troopers. There was such an episode when a cadet in a knife throwing class asked the instructor why he needed to throw knives when he could press a button? For which the sergeant ordered him to raise his hand to the cadet, struck her with a knife throw and ended with the phrase: So that the enemy could not press the button, you learn to throw knives. "
      That and with the landing. Yes, now some plans for a global strike are being built there, global containment. Everyone wants to press the buttons. And the Airborne Forces are precisely those troops that are designed to prevent the enemy from clicking on it.
    6. 0
      August 3 2016
      What makes you think that the third world will begin with massive strikes? especially on the territory of nuclear-weapon states. Why does ALL have such a conviction? China will bring its troops into our territory, will we attack them with atomic bombs? Hardly. We will try to squeeze out with conventional troops. (And do not say that this cannot be. Everything changes and it is not known what will happen in 20 years) Therefore, the Airborne Forces as the most prepared should remain. Airborne is a brand of military force. The whole army must be built on brands. For example, SS divisions that fought better than others. For example, the tank division of the Airborne Forces. Or motorized infantry division or artillery.
  7. +6
    August 2 2016
    Happy Holiday, Airborne!
    "If anything, the paratroopers will still be the second to meet the enemy. The first, of course, are the border guards."
    First, God forbid war, the air defense warriors will enter the battle, my kind of troops. Although, we can also be called border guards wink
    Quote: Cat
    Dying army

    The landing troops were, are and will be. And not only the air. In the light of modern requirements, they will be modified. What the authors wrote about.
    1. Cat
      +2
      August 2 2016
      It’s too expensive to destroy the entire satellite orbital system and all air attack means for the landing of two three airborne brigades, this is the final stage of the invasion, when the resistance of the enemy air groups is suppressed, but not the troops that are the first to engage in battle, the war of the last half of the twentieth century and the war of the first half past twelve, a little different things, the concept needs to be finalized.
      1. +2
        August 2 2016
        You, as I understand it, mean offensive military operations with the landing of airborne units behind enemy lines. But do not forget that there is still the task of defending our own territory, where the mobility of our army in defense (given frankly speaking the small number of our armed forces throughout the country) is the most important task. From this point of view, the Airborne Forces are the most important component of the stability of our defense.
        1. Cat
          -2
          August 3 2016
          The most important component in the importance of our country's defense is weapons of mass destruction, since the enemy has large production and human resources and no airborne regiments will help us in the war against the billionth NATO unit, but they are also trying to deprive us of this by installing missile defense systems along our borders.
      2. vv3
        +3
        August 2 2016
        Kotik, you’re right only in one thing, that we don’t have the concept of conducting a modern war without the use of nuclear weapons. But your inventions and judgments, despite some logic, do not make sense, like mine about the use of modern information systems. The forum does not need to go deeper than discussing aircraft and tanks - they don’t understand. Everyone is interested in what we have and how it is apply in modern conditions and what is needed for this, no one is interested. And then heaps of minuses will not work for you ...
  8. +8
    August 2 2016
    To protect our country, with its impassability in vast expanses, the Airborne Forces are what you need. Margelov Vasily Filippovich good memory, airborne honor and glory!
  9. +3
    August 2 2016
    Glory Airborne !!!
  10. +2
    August 2 2016
    Nobody except us! Happy Bratwa!
    1. +2
      August 2 2016
      FOR THE Airborne !!! HOLIDAY !!!!!!!!!!
  11. +8
    August 2 2016
    While the spirit of Margelov is alive in the airborne forces, the airborne forces are alive! While the airborne troops are alive, Russia is alive!
  12. +2
    August 2 2016
    Yes, everything is marked correctly. Saturation with fire weapons is simply necessary. The Airborne Forces have long turned into the most effective highly mobile force.
    But I would like to warn our ardent "reformers" against senseless name changes due to the expansion of functions. There are enough negative examples ... The police, the Aerospace Forces, the National Guard ... We still have enough mind to call our glorious Airborne Forces airmobile troops ...
    1. 0
      August 2 2016
      olicia, VKS, National Guard ... Mind our glorious airborne forces are still enough called airmobile troops ...


      Well, if the Air Force became the Aerospace Forces, then the Airborne Forces will be "Space Marines"))
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  14. 0
    August 2 2016
    The re-equipment of the Airborne Forces is long overdue. "Nyura" does not cope with all tasks, reinforcement of "Octopus" significantly increases the firepower of subunits. Tanks in the Airborne Forces, this is the second echelon, an armored fist, a reference point with which you can overturn the enemy. Changes in the tactics of using the airborne forces, according to the developing situation, are very important. Nobody except us !!!
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    1. +1
      August 2 2016
      Well, it’s better to give the T-90s to the Syrians than to give them to their warriors. And then, it’s stupid to think that after Shoigu came to the Ministry of Defense, the fat generals died out sharply. As they say, the Baltic Fleet will not let you lie.
      1. Cat
        0
        August 2 2016
        You don’t need to give anything to anyone, to remake the T-90 into special equipment for that matter, are you too rich to become?
    2. +2
      August 2 2016
      There is a deficit in the Eastern Military District and T-72 B3 ... So, the wealthier we are, the happier
    3. 0
      August 2 2016
      Quote from rudolf
      It’s just not clear why the brigades were changed to BMP-2, why not BMP-3 / 3M. With BMD-4M twin brothers, easier operation

      So bmp-3 still need to produce. And so the Kurgan plant should supply 144 shells and BMD-4m by the end of the year.
      http://vpk.name/news/160463_rossiiskie_vdv_poluchat_144_edinicyi_bmd4m_i_bronetr
      ansporterov_rakushka.html? new # new
      And the plant is not in the best condition go bankruptcy proceedings.
      Quote from rudolf
      And instead of the T-72B3, they could fork out for the T-90.

      Well, if they put the T-72 as a biathlon, then not many are worse than the T-90. And there you look and armata.
      Quote from rudolf
      Not so many of our Airborne Forces, JBBs are even smaller, would not be impoverished.

      Well dshb and airborne forces now one structure in the Russian Federation. handed over dshb several years ago. Perhaps they are planted on the BMP-2 and T-72.
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        1. 0
          August 2 2016
          Quote from rudolf
          This BMP-3M must be launched into production, and the basic BMP-3 is available.

          Well, these BMP-3s mean somewhere. It turns out to pick up, and then something to replace.
          Quote from rudolf
          but ideal for air transportation.

          It is doubtful. BMD-4m weighs 13,5 tons, and BMP-3 18,5 tons. So BMP-3 in the IL-76 squad will not fit. And this is the main requirement of the Airborne Forces. But they are suitable for the railway platform for the DShB. But where to get them?
          Quote from rudolf
          then the T-90A is still preferable to the T-72B3.

          There is a long debate. If the T-72b3m with relict and panorma (engine 1 thousand l / s) assure it, this is one thing, but if the T-72b3 drill rig, then there’s nothing to think about.
          Quote from rudolf
          Armata may be too heavy for mobile units.

          It seems 48t is declared. Well, wikipedia data of course. Although the requirement for bridges has not been canceled. So the t-90s and armata are somewhere in the same weight category.
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    4. 0
      August 2 2016
      Most likely this is a temporary solution. It’s long overdue to transplant to something more modern, but they only managed to rivet the kurgans for parades ... request
  16. 0
    August 2 2016
    The armament of the Airborne Forces of the MBT is the right decision, but the MBT should be the best of the existing ones.
  17. +1
    August 2 2016
    Khokhlyatsky paratroopers no longer jump, in general! It seems we are moving in the same way - turning the airborne into aeromobes sad
    Happy holiday, fellow soldiers !!!
    1. +1
      August 2 2016
      Leap is not an end in itself. jumping is just a way of delivering a soldier to the battlefield. In Afghanistan, most of the paratroopers who served there parachute also did not see. Training in Dzharkurgan or Kushka, by helicopter and Gordez and forward. And so, one and a half years before the demobilization. But this does not deprive these guys (already grandfathers) of the rank of paratrooper.
      To land large masses of troops today is dangerous. Air defense with one blow will be able to destroy units in the air
      1. 0
        August 2 2016
        I read somewhere:
        With the current saturation with air defense means, the phrase "Drop the landing" takes on a double meaning.
    2. +2
      August 2 2016
      Quote: AllXVahhaB
      Khokhlyatsky paratroopers no longer jump, in general! It seems we are moving in the same way - turning the airborne into aeromobes

      Most likely, we are moving in the direction of the separation of the Airborne Forces into light parachute parts of the first echelon, designed to capture landing sites, and medium-heavy airmobile parts of the second echelon, intended for landing by landing method on captured platforms.

      Given the practice of using the Airborne Forces after the Second World War, rearmament on army equipment is just asking. For in almost all operations, the airborne forces operated not just on the ground together with motorized riflemen, but had their own lanes / areas of responsibility.
  18. 0
    August 2 2016
    Russia’s presence of the world's largest airborne troops obliges us to consider these troops not as an operational plug in the event of any problem, but as a force capable of taking the first strike and delaying the enemy until the main forces approach.
    Isn't that the same thing?

    There was a very controversial statement by Shamanov about the organization of tank companies as part of the Airborne Forces.
    On the contrary, this innovation has been asking for a long time, for example, 1-2 VDD and 1 MSD, including one tank battalion, were one of the VDK composition for VDO. In Afghanistan, the 103th Airborne Forces included 62 detachments, in 345 of the detachment of detachments of infantry and military operations, a tank company, and in 56 of the special operations detachment, a tank platoon.

    In addition to tankers, BMP-2 appeared in the Airborne Forces. Two brigades of the Eastern Military District will be armed with just such vehicles.
    The step is absolutely logical, the equipment can be delivered as part of the landing landing, if necessary, personnel can participate in the landing from helicopters. In 56 ODShBr during their stay in the OKSV there were 102 BMP-2D, 60 BTR-70.
    1. +1
      August 2 2016
      Quote: strannik1985
      Isn't that the same thing?

      “Sea cats are based here,” the Minister explained.
      - Sea? - the President asked, - And how do they differ from the landing troops?
      “To be honest,” the General lowered his voice, “there’s one fundamental difference: they jump, and these swim. The rest - the same scumbags, they are just smaller and they have more territoriality.
      - In what sense? - I did not understand the Head of State.
      “It is very simple,” the Minister began to explain, “Each subspecies of the Sea Cats, and we have mainly three of them, grows and learns at its Sea Theater, some in the Arctic, others in the Black Sea, and others in the Pacific. Because of this, there are some differences, in particular, in the degree of frost resistance and wool moisture resistance. But, basically, they are all the same - pirates and thugs. The main specialty is the capture of bridgeheads ...
      “Let me guess,” the President interrupted, “And then they must die heroically or hold him until the main group approaches, which, by the way, is the same thing?”
      “You are beginning to understand the main task of the Special Forces, Mr. President,” the General nodded approvingly.
      - And they, too, are proud of it?
      “Why,” the General nodded.
      - Yes, they are maniacs with suicidal tendencies! - the Head of State was indignant.
      “In no case,” the Minister firmly replied, “they are morally stable and mentally healthy highly motivated young military cats who clearly understand their combat mission.”
      © I. Koshkin. "Serving the Fatherland!" An old military cat blank.
    2. 0
      August 2 2016
      BMP2 in these teams did not appear but were. These brigades (DSB) did not previously obey the Airborne Forces. I understand this is about the teams in Ussuriysk and Ulan-Uda ..
  19. 0
    August 2 2016
    An airborne fighter MUST BE ABLE to jump with a parachute and act in isolation from the rest of the forces, autonomously, performing a combat mission. Let it be called airmobile, let the equipment be transported by air to the base - it is important that these are forces that with decent armored vehicles (excluding MBT) can be in a few hours thousands of kilometers from the location, and solve the problem. The presence of such forces in many hotheads is instead of a cold shower.
  20. +1
    August 2 2016
    Exactly so, and be able to rely only on yourself. That is, it is sensible and sober to think. For a long time I have not felt in drunkenness on the second of August. As well as drinking threw a long time ago. I think that the paratrooper is not the one who can not hesitate to piss into the fountain in Gorky Park with a torn vest on his belly, but the one who keeps his fighting spirit and body in order. I have something to remember and someone to remember. Many of my memories will never grow old. Who knows, I'll talk to him on "those" topics, and who does not know will not understand and it is necessary. Keep yourself in the hands of men, do not stoop to the level of drunken robbery in all cities and villages of Russia. Happy Holidays!
  21. +3
    August 2 2016
    When you look at these sleek aluminum sides of the vehicle, it becomes a little uncomfortable. Of course, without detracting from the military merits of the Airborne Forces (now, most likely, there will be those who will say that "this is not a bug, but a feature" and "so it is necessary"), but the moment may have already ripened to revise the performance characteristics and bring closer the security standards of the equipment developed for the landing to motorized rifle samples? Of course, in theory, the landing force operates purely in the rear, always strikes down suddenly, etc. But there were other cases when units used bluntly in the forehead, and no one would give a guarantee against repeating this (even old infantry fighting vehicles are being introduced into the landing force). And besides, standardization / unification / economy. Apparently, the command is gradually beginning to realize that the number of modern airborne forces is excessive for local conflicts, and in the case of global missiles and aviation will still be in time earlier.
    The Airborne Forces slightly remind me of a hussar: light weapons, beautiful shape, honorable service, a heroic areola, heavy losses in the event of a real combat clash.
    1. 0
      August 7 2016
      The main task of the Airborne Forces is to fly to the region the fastest, disembark and complete a combat mission. In a war, the speed of the transfer of troops is one of the most important components. Forget the 1940s over-the-horizon landings. Now the Airborne Forces is a real reserve in case of a breakthrough by the enemy along the front of our vast Motherland. Only the Airborne Forces in such a dangerous situation are able to fly into a given area in a matter of hours and, by counterattack or defense, stop the enemy's breakthrough. But there is still a lot of situations when the Airborne Forces are very useful. And this is where the problem arises. The problem of the standard technology of motorized riflemen is in weight and dimensions. It stupidly cannot be transported by transport aircraft in mass quantities. Therefore, the airborne forces are all light. Its protection is worse than that of a motorized rifle, but in combat power it will not yield in any way. Especially after the adoption of the "Nona", "BMD-4M" with "Bakhchi" and "Sprut-SD" with a full-fledged tank gun. Physics has not gone anywhere. It is impossible to create a 12-15 ton armored vehicle with security like the 30-35 ton Bradley or the 40 ton Puma. This is impossible at this technological stage. This means that it is necessary to increase the firepower, which the designers are happy to do.
      And tanks should be given to the Airborne Forces when necessary and when it is possible to use them promptly.
  22. +1
    August 2 2016
    I note that I read in passing and AH .... l, gentlemen, what are you talking about ????? In my opinion, I am the most sober of those celebrating today. Technical equipment is certainly good, but we are not being driven for a frontal strike. During the service they told me about 40 minutes of battle of our unit, maximum. And I think, I hope that these Pribluda needed to extend our survival to complete the task.
  23. 0
    August 2 2016
    That's when I hear about some "calculated" forty minutes. He laughs, and he took my commanders when they just passed the service asked for "estimated time to hold out." You probably have a million-plus engine on your car.
  24. 0
    August 3 2016
    Omsk, Heromsk. Spraying continues.
    In Ishim, a training was created-removed.
    I understand that gentlemen’s officers are better off living in a millionaire city.
    And in general, our gentlemen officers snickered.
    Zazhralis!
    Happy snicker! Landing ...
  25. 0
    August 3 2016
    And if we are talking about just such a vision of the situation, then our realities are as follows: the presence of the world's largest airborne troops in Russia obliges us to consider these troops not as an operational plug in the event of any problem, but as a force capable of taking the first blow and delay the enemy until the main forces approach.

    According to an open source, the number of personnel units of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation, excluding mobile reserves, is:

    According to unofficial data voiced by TASS (an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense) for the 2015 year, the number of Russian airborne forces was 45 000 troops [2].

    According to foreign estimates, the personnel of the Airborne Forces numbers 36 000 troops [1].


    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Воздушно-десантные_войска_
    1. 0
      August 3 2016
      For comparison:

      The total number of personnel of the XVIIIth airborne corps is 88 thousand people.

      Source: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/285/vdv-ssha © Portal "Modern Army"

      And this, without taking into account the airborne forces of the other NATO countries.

      The NATO Airborne Forces in terms of airborne and airborne armored vehicles are equipped much more modestly than their counterparts from Russia, since they mainly use military vehicles for various purposes. But on the other hand, they are much better equipped with military transport aircraft, as they are armed with not only a large fleet of military transport aircraft, but also a rather large fleet of transport and military transport helicopters, of various models and modifications. Which allows them to have much higher mobility, both strategic and tactical.
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        January 28 2018
        wanderer_032 And this, without taking into account the airborne forces of the other NATO countries.

        In other armies of NATO countries there are few ....
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    August 3 2016
    The machine, who saw it in action, is more than peculiar. Nedotank.

    Why say so? This is a completely normal light tank with high firepower and high mobility. Plus, it is airborne and amphibious. The machine fully meets the requirements of the main customer.

    Many people have questions about its security. To which I can say that significantly enhancing the protection of any BBM, now does not present a serious technical problem. Because There are not only mounted protective kits of various kinds, but also active protection systems.
    And all this, our domestic defense industry can produce in series and install on the equipment coming into the troops, at the request of the main customer. Or to supply such kits separately, which can be installed directly - on the spot, either by the forces of the repair divisions of units armed with one or another type of equipment, or by involving factory specialists seconded to the unit.
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      January 28 2018
      wanderer_032 Why say so? This is a completely normal light tank with high firepower and high mobility. Plus, it is airborne and amphibious. The machine fully meets the requirements of the main customer.

      Why did the Americans then withdraw light tanks from the 82 Airborne Forces during the years of the “ХV”?
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    January 28 2018
    the presence in Russia of the world's largest airborne troops

    With what fright are they the most numerous?
    According to unofficial data voiced by TASS (an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense) for the 2015 year, the number of Russian airborne forces was 45 000 troops

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2018491

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    Currently, the organization, weapons and equipment of the US Airborne Forces have transformed from Cold War standards to modern requirements. As a quick reaction force, the 18th Airborne Forces has the highest operational pace among US Army corps. According to the requirements of the American command, the airborne or air assault battalion must be deployed to the theater of operations in 18 hours after the order is received, the brigade tactical group must be deployed in 96 hours, the light division in 120 hours, and the entire corps within 30 days . The five-division composition of the corps is envisaged: one airborne, two heavy, one air-assault and one light division. The total number of personnel of the XVIIIth airborne corps is 88 thousand people.
    Source: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/285/vdv-ssha © Portal "Modern Army"

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