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Color music for Rosguards

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On July 3, Vladimir Putin signed a package of laws that finally fixed the creation of a new Russian law enforcement agency - the Federal Service of National Guard forces. Now, when the legal base has been formed, the command of the FSFIS takes up practical work: prescribes the organizational structure, develops combat manuals and various instructions, and creates a logistics system. It is planned to purchase new types of weapons and military equipment, aircraft and small arms. weapons.
Not so long ago, it became known that the Poisk-6MSN combat deltaplants, as well as domestic high-precision sniper complexes T-5000 developed and manufactured by Orsis, will appear in Rosguards. But if in the internal troops that became the basis of the FASVNG, before the start of the reform, there was a coherent system of forming a fleet of vehicles and armored vehicles, then the OMON, SOBR, patrol and patrol service units and private security guards transferred to the office of the Ministry of the Interior are not as good safely.


Therefore, it is interesting to find out what kind of cars and for what specific tasks the command of the Russian Guard is planning to purchase.

In the mountains and country roads

Currently, the FSVNG does not plan to purchase not only the latest Tanks and infantry fighting vehicles of the Armata and Kurganets families, but also the Boomerang armored personnel carriers. According to the leadership of the department, such machines are more suitable for full-fledged combined arms combat using high-precision weapons, aviation and artillery, but not to maintain law and order. The novelties of the Russian military-industrial complex have too aggressive appearance and excessive armament for the tasks facing the Rosguard.

Therefore, the command of FSFNG decided to leave the older armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82, which, albeit in limited numbers, will continue to serve in separate units of operational regiments and battalions, reconnaissance and special forces detachments, as well as riot police and special security forces.

According to representatives of the Russian Guard, armored personnel carriers will perform a limited range of tasks, such as the destruction of terrorists, support for assault groups with fire and evacuation of the wounded. And the basis of the vehicle fleet of operational units and subunits, special forces and intelligence will be composed of both ordinary trucks and specialized armored vehicles.

Until recently, armored personnel carriers were also equipped with special motorized military units (SMVCH), whose soldiers, together with the police, carry out the tasks of maintaining public order during mass events. But experience has shown that there was simply no work for armored personnel carriers, therefore combat vehicles were idle in the parks. Currently, the command of the Rosguards has decided to withdraw the BTR from the SMHF.

In the fleets of units and subunits of FSFVN, there will not be any armored vehicles of the “Typhoon-K” and “Typhoon-U” families, the tests of which are now actively conducted by the Ministry of Defense of Russia. According to Rosgvardi specialists, as in the case of Armata, Kurgants and Boomerang, the characteristics of the newest armored vehicles are superfluous for the tasks facing the units and divisions of the federal service.

It should be noted that the Russian military department itself has not yet decided what tasks the Typhoons will perform. It is assumed that the newest armored cars will go into service of reconnaissance battalions and brigades, as well as special forces. But for the time being, the Defense Ministry’s Main Armored Directorate continues to test new products.

The main armored vehicle of operational units and subunits, reconnaissance and special purpose detachments of the FASVNG should be Ural-VV. Developed using the experience gained on Typhoon-U, Ural-BB, created on the basis of a three-axle truck Ural-4320, it can withstand small arms, and due to the V-shaped bottom it can protect personnel from an explosive device capacity of about five kilograms in TNT equivalent. In addition to mine protection, at the request of Rosgvardia, the Ural-VV is equipped with so-called hanging seats fixed in the landing compartment so that the feet of the serviceman do not touch the floor of the vehicle. Thanks to this decision, in the event of a mine exploding, the fighters will not receive leg injuries.

Color music for RosguardsThe main tasks of the new armored car are the safe delivery of personnel to the site of the operation and the transportation of ordinary cargo, equipment, and other property. To repel a possible attack in the Ural-VV boards, loopholes for small arms were equipped.

While the command of the Rosguard does not plan to additionally install heavy weapons on armored vehicles. Part of the "Ural" equip sound and light complexes designed to disperse riots, but no more. True, in the future it is possible that part of the armored vehicles will receive remotely controlled combat modules with machine guns or automatic grenade launchers, but so far the issue is being studied. Currently, Ural-VV is already being supplied to the 604-th special purpose Red Banner Center.

As the experience of operating new cars shows, if on rough terrain in the forest, fields and snow they behave excellently, then in mountainous terrain with steep slopes they lose to another product of the Ural Automobile Plant, the Federal armored car, which has been actively bought by internal troops for the last few years .

Due to the installation of additional armor and mine protection in comparison with the basic version, the center of gravity of the Ural-BB has shifted upwards, which negatively affects the stability of the vehicle when it overcomes steep slopes.

The proven Federal has no such problem. Due to the fact that an armored capsule is installed in the body, in which personnel is transported, the center of gravity of the armored vehicle, on the contrary, has moved lower, which significantly improves maneuverability.

Therefore, at present, the leadership of FSFNG has made a compromise decision: units and subunits that perform tasks in mountainous areas, including as part of a joint group of troops (forces) to conduct counter-terrorist operations in the North Caucasus, will be equipped with the latest Ural-VV, but will keep in the car parks "Federals".

It is noteworthy that the FSBNG, as before, the internal troops, prefers machines manufactured by the Ural Automobile Plant, while their colleagues from the Ministry of Defense purchase KamAZ products. According to Rosgvardi specialists, “Urals” are traditionally designed to perform tasks at the tactical level, that is, not only they are distinguished by high maneuverability, but also, importantly, even unprepared servicemen can easily cope with their repairs away from service centers and repair agencies.

But the trucks produced by the Kama Automobile Plant, win on the roads and have a large carrying capacity. Therefore, KamAZ trucks were traditionally used at the operational level - for the supply of property, fuel and food from district and army warehouses to divisions and brigades.

The command of the Rosgvardia does not intend to violate the established system: “Ural-VV” and “Feds” will carry personnel who perform service and combat tasks, and KamAZ trucks will bring up material resources.

City Patrol

For work in cities and towns in the new department they plan to use ordinary trucks and cars, including off-road vehicles, such as the UAZ-Hunter or the Patriot, as well as buses with special color-graphic design, lighting and sound facilities and places for detainees.

In addition to ensuring public order, the Rosgvardians must fight terrorists. To solve such problems, the FASVNG command plans not only to continue the use of Tiger family armored vehicles, but also to order new families from the industry.

A few years ago, the Ministry of the Interior had already purchased special police vehicles SPM-1 and SPM-2, created on the basis of the GAZ-23034 "Tiger" for mobile special purpose units and quick response. In general, the car has proven itself well, but there were also drawbacks.

The main feature of the police "Tigers" was that, unlike similar machines purchased by the Russian Defense Ministry, SPM has a high class of protection (5-th against 3-th from military "Tigers"). Although thicker armor affected patency, such a sacrifice is quite acceptable for actions in urban environments.

Also on special police cars mounted loopholes for firing from the standard armament of special forces soldiers and a mount for installing a PC or PKM machine gun on the roof of an armored car.

As noted by the Rosgvardi specialists, in general, the SPM still satisfies all the requirements, therefore the tasks to develop and produce new armored vehicles based on the “Tiger” are not worth it. At the same time, specialized vehicles are already being developed: command and staff, communications, reconnaissance and surveillance, some of which are being tested.

To carry out tasks in urban conditions, the fleet of special-purpose units and subunits of the Rosguard will be replenished with specialized armored vehicles “Patrol”, created by Asteys based on a two-axle cargo KAMAZ-43502.

According to the representatives of the Russian Guard, a new armored car was originally created under the requirements of the FASVNG and with the participation of specialists of the department. Compared with the “Ural-VV”, the “Patrol” is distinguished by better maneuverability in urban environments, including on narrow streets and in driveways. True, the Patrol’s passability outside settlements and roads leaves much to be desired, so it will not be able to compete with Ural-VV.

The main task of the Asteys product is to safely deliver special forces soldiers to the place of operations. For this, the Patrol is equipped with armor, loopholes are installed in the sides, and the machine itself withstands an explosion at an IED equivalent to five kilograms of TNT.

But as in the case of the "Ural-VV", the command of the FSFISI does not plan to install weapons on the "Patrol". The cars will be painted according to a special color scheme and equipped with special light-sound complexes to combat riots.

It is planned that the “Patrols” will be primarily equipped with riot police and SOBRs. But some of the vehicles will go into service with individual units of regiments and battalions of the patrol and patrol service and special motorized units.

Also, the Rosgvardi command began purchasing specialized Tornado cars based on the Ural-4320 truck and intended to destroy barricades and other artificial barriers. The machine is equipped with a blade, means for spraying gases and a water cannon. In the stern part there is a special manipulator that can be used to disassemble the debris, and also to use it for mine clearance.

Currently, the first "Tornado" has already entered service with the demining units of the 5-th operational regiment of a separate operational division.

Yes, forgot about the ravines

The command of Rosgvardiya has built a quite logical and promising scheme for the use of automotive technology. But we must not forget that, in addition to the internal troops, where the command paid great attention not only to keeping the equipment in good condition, but also to standardizing the park, the FSFIS included police units, where the picture is different.

In particular, the car parks of most of the riot police, SOBRov and PPS regiments represent a jumble of different cars, ranging from UAZ- "loaves" and ending with such rare books as GAZ-66 and ZIL-131. At the same time, good condition sometimes leaves much to be desired.

And if in Moscow and other large cities the technical readiness of the vehicle fleet of special purpose units and rapid response at a very high level, then in the province there are only a few vehicles per unit in good condition.

Another serious problem is the lack of trained specialists in the repair and operation of military automotive equipment. If for the needs of the internal troops, specialists trained the military institute of the explosives in Perm, and if necessary, the high command selected officers of the necessary military occupational specialties from the higher education institutions of the Ministry of Defense, but in educational institutions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs about the training of specialists in repair and operation of weapons and military equipment .

So the task before the command of FSFNG is quite complicated. On the one hand, to maintain in good condition everything inherited, and on the other, to actively buy new products, re-equip units and divisions, and train young specialists.
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  1. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 16 July 2016 07: 01
    +2
    At least a year will be required for the result to be well-coordinated units, equipped with everything necessary. I hope there is time.
    1. Homo
      Homo 16 July 2016 11: 56
      +12
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      At least a year will be required for the result to be well-coordinated units, equipped with everything necessary.

      Units coordinated and staffed already exist, they are only reassigned (at the top level).
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      I hope there is time.

      Time to what? request
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 16 July 2016 13: 09
        +1
        Units that are well-coordinated and staffed already exist, they were only reassigned (at the top level)

        Wait and see.
        Time to what?

        Before they begin to be used for their intended purpose.
    2. Andrey Petrov47
      Andrey Petrov47 16 July 2016 12: 54
      +5
      Yes, in the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and so it was all chiki-farts.
  2. red joni
    red joni 16 July 2016 07: 09
    +1
    I think at the World Cup the terrorists will have no chance against our growing guard.
    1. corporal
      corporal 16 July 2016 13: 31
      +5
      Quote: red joni
      terrorists will have no chance

      Spit three times.
  3. Takashi
    Takashi 16 July 2016 07: 19
    0
    I understand that in the Russian Federation we simply copy US laws, as well as its organizational structure. So our National Guard is very similar to the US National Guard. I.e. personally submits to the president and carries out all his orders.
    1. creak
      creak 16 July 2016 10: 22
      +8
      [quote = Takashi]. So our National Guard is very similar to the US National Guard. I.e. personally submits to the president and carries out all his orders.
      Not certainly in that way. In the normal period, parts of the US National Guard can be used by state governors, where they are deployed, to maintain public order for police assistance and in the aftermath of acts of nature.
      At the same time, being a combat ready reserve of the US Army, if necessary, the National Guard is transferred directly to the President of the country to participate in hostilities, including and abroad.
      Parts of the US National Guard have already taken part in hostilities in Afghanistan and Iraq.
      There are also differences in the principles of acquisition and service ...
    2. Homo
      Homo 16 July 2016 11: 58
      +5
      Quote: Takashi
      I understand that in the Russian Federation we simply copy US laws, as well as its organizational structure.

      Yeah! And the wheel was copied (because it is round) and the plane (because there are two wings), etc. am
  4. Alexey T. (Oper)
    Alexey T. (Oper) 16 July 2016 07: 33
    +23
    I wonder what kind of package of laws we are talking about, if, for example, the provision on the service was not only not signed, but it seems that it was not even developed? And in the law on the troops of the National Guard, there are some common phrases and no specifics.
    For example, I, as an employee of the National Guard (its police component), absolutely do not understand the conditions and features of further service. And I haven’t found these documents on any legal website, although I searched very carefully (the benefit is now on vacation and there is time to rummage through the network).
    1. matross
      matross 16 July 2016 13: 47
      +18
      I agree with you, colleague hi
      There is a riot in the divisions, complete misunderstanding and preparation for escape. Putin signed the decree on April 5 and we have been waiting three and a half months for an answer to the question "what's next?" Further, as I understand now, there is a powerful struggle under all high carpets for positions, powers and integration into new corruption chains. VV both served and continue to serve - for them it is just a change of signboard, but for the transferred police units (tens of thousands of employees) it is a serious change. But at the top, no one is in a hurry, they have more important things to do ... Where is the staffing at least ?? There is not even a talk about the provision on the service. And people read - a package of laws ... la-la-urya ... guard-shmardia ... While the National Guard is just a word that proudly hangs in the air.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 32
        +1
        Exactly!!! Got a lot of new? Probably only the prints in the drillings have changed?
  5. Oden280
    Oden280 16 July 2016 07: 36
    +12
    The bogeyman is complete. In the OMON and the Special Operations Regiment, the equipment was manufactured according to the staffing table. The riot police has 3 cross-country vehicles and one platoon bus. In SOBR, there are 1–2 cars, 2–1 jeeps based on the region of base, and one minibus. The same goes for weapons. On average, there were 4-5 units of weapons per SOBR fighter for a variety of tasks.
    Armored trucks, in the presence of certain pluses, have a number of main disadvantages, such as a decrease in carrying capacity and dynamic characteristics, horseradish quickly jump out from under the shelling, and the fact that after the armor is blown up wedges and everyone who remains behind them is trapped.
    The desire to adjust everything to a bad VVshny standard finally finishes off the special forces transferred to him.
    1. RexMVDshny
      RexMVDshny 16 July 2016 09: 48
      +1
      And, what would you advise, there is at least some standardization.
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 16 July 2016 10: 45
        +3
        Do not touch what works.
      2. Nehist
        Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 36
        +2
        Yes it is impossible to carry out standardization !!! I will repeat it earlier, I wrote above! It was staffed on the basis of a specific task and appealing to the region !!!
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 34
      +1
      Well, everything was completed to carry out a specific task in relation to the region! And now this army will be in the army
  6. erased
    erased 16 July 2016 08: 18
    +8
    the Russian military department itself has not yet decided which tasks the Typhoons will solve

    This phrase is valid for most types of equipment and weapons, which were made on an initiative basis. That is, the cart was placed in front of the horse. And this is with regard to the most important army and defense industry, despite the fact that a huge amount of money is being spent on everything! And then there are 7-8 submachine guns, 3-4 pistols, with a dozen different armored vehicles. Etc!
    The National Guard, also known as the Rosnatsi, is an overly bulky structure that has absorbed such different structures that it is almost impossible to bring them to a common denominator. For example, special forces detachments of the explosives and regiments of the PPS or companies of private security. And where to stick the licensing system?
    In a word, it turned out like this - to grab at first, then to think.
    And then. Specialized technology is one thing. And if the industry is loaded with the release of the same type on the basis of principle, but different in configuration, then the economy will burst from such de-universalization. BTR-80, BTR-82, Typhoon-K, Typhoon-U, Boomerang - nothing will crack? Or so - UAZ, Tiger, Wolf, Patrol.
    In a word, the rest is a beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine.
    1. user
      user 16 July 2016 10: 10
      +8
      July 3, Vladimir Putin signed a package of laws that finally consolidated the creation of a new Russian law enforcement agency - the Federal Service of the National Guard Forces.

      The National Guard, also known as the Rosnatsi, is an overly bulky structure that has absorbed such different structures that it is almost impossible to bring them to a common denominator.


      Sorry if I accidentally offend anyone, but the National Guard is created for future tasks that may arise in September 2016 or in 2018 during the election. The presence of a center for forecasting the internal and geopolitical risks of the Russian Federation on the face, and here the main thing is to overstate than to understate. I completely agree with this, but having lived all my life in the USSR, and now the Russian Federation I am tormented by vague suspicions, this concerns the right of the guard (well, you can write anything) to open fire on the crowd and especially the strengthening of all kinds of responsibility (in the latest versions of the law) for not denunciation (well, or what is it called right?).
      Maybe my suspicions will seem ridiculous to someone, but I live in this country all my life and there is a certain experience of life, so to speak.
      1. Slavs69
        Slavs69 17 July 2016 11: 05
        +1
        Quote: user
        open fire on the crowd

        Read carefully the Federal Law "On the Russian Guard" Art. 21. And where do you see permission to shoot at the crowd?
        1. user
          user 17 July 2016 13: 20
          0
          I didn’t even begin to correct and correct anything; note that there is a contradiction in paragraphs 4 and 5 of Article 21 of the Federal Law

          4. It is forbidden to use weapons against women with visible signs of pregnancy, persons with obvious signs of disability and minors, except for the cases when these people show armed resistance, commit a group or other attack that threatens the life or health of citizens or a military officer (employee) of the National Guard .
          5. A serviceman (employee) of the National Guard troops shall not be entitled to use weapons in case of a significant concentration of people if random persons may be injured as a result of their use, with the exception of cases of using weapons to prevent (suppress) a terrorist act, release hostages, repel a group or armed attacks on important state facilities, special cargoes, communications facilities, guarded by the National Guard, and on their own facilities of the National Guard.


          Law enforcement practice in the Russian Federation is very selective, somewhere like that. . .
          1. Slavs69
            Slavs69 17 July 2016 18: 04
            +1
            Quote: user
            You do not find

            No. clause 4 is completely copied from art. 23 of the Federal Law "On the Police". Item 5 was also present in the police law, but it was necessary to exclude cases of the impossibility of using weapons in the suppression of a terrorist attack, when there is a possibility of the presence of unauthorized civilians who unwittingly found themselves in the CTO zone (for example, "Nord-Ost, when there was a large accumulation of hostages, because formally fighters did not have the right to use weapons to kill in a large crowd of citizens.) And believe me, when holding mass events or when suppressing group violations of order, none of the commanders will give the command to equip employees with firearms, because the law is such a drawbar .... but! as Nice has shown, the presence of an armed reserve at the site of a mass event is necessary.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 16 July 2016 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: erased
      The National Guard, aka Rosnatsi

      "Well, you b_lin give" (C) "Features of the national hunt"
      You will come to an agreement before the Schutzstaffen :-) Although the historical peralelli is straightforward
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 16 July 2016 11: 59
      +4
      By the way, I have not heard about the transfer of the PPS to the Russian Guard. Riot police and SOBR, VOKhRa are being transmitted, and the PPS in the Ministry of Internal Affairs remain as far as I know. Wh from infa then? belay
    4. Nehist
      Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 38
      0
      The structure is generally superfluous and not clear ... And so the law enforcement agencies wagon and a small cart ...
  7. demotivator
    demotivator 16 July 2016 08: 35
    +5
    How much I read, but I still can’t understand. So is it the National Guard or the Russian Guard? The heading is talking about the Russian Guard, and then in the text - the National Guard. Grew up and nat - these are different concepts. Why so much confusion?
    1. erased
      erased 16 July 2016 08: 38
      +8
      Confusion in the minds of lawmakers. That they had not thought of before the gendarmerie. Although essentially the correct name.
    2. Alexey T. (Oper)
      Alexey T. (Oper) 16 July 2016 09: 20
      +10
      The law is called "On the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation." So the National Guard is right after all.
      1. atos_kin
        atos_kin 16 July 2016 17: 17
        +2
        Well, a very "thoughtful" name of the troops for a multinational state. It remains to create a "very very state", i.e. of "all-national" status to equip these troops, besides the "Armata", with nuclear missiles, a pair of submarines, and necessarily an icebreaker. It would not hurt if the national commander of the national guard was the first deputy guarantor of the nation.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 40
          +2
          So after all, they will repost !!! As at one time the Emergencies Ministry front-line aviation and artillery of the VGK
    3. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 16 July 2016 09: 22
      +5
      I also don’t quite understand why some kind of Rosguard, if the new organization is officially called, is the Federal Service of the Forces of the National Guard ...
      1. Uryukc
        Uryukc 17 July 2016 02: 05
        +1
        She and the service, she and the troops, she and the guard - does this alone seem to me a strange name?
        1. erix-xnumx
          erix-xnumx 17 July 2016 03: 23
          +1
          I agree with the name muddied so that without a half liter can not be figured out.
      2. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 17 July 2016 02: 31
        0
        I remember during the Great Patriotic War, the Red Army fighters rushed with bundles of grenades along the Tigers.
        Coincidence, probably .., but for me, personally, is not pleasant.
  8. maksim2609
    maksim2609 16 July 2016 09: 41
    +3
    Guards created. Next in line are the musketeers of the king ...
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 16 July 2016 10: 27
      +2
      And the cardinal?
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 16 July 2016 11: 16
        +5
        Quote: cth; fyn
        And the cardinal?

        Kudrin his last name :-)
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 16 July 2016 15: 24
          +7
          Carefully "re-read the film": the wife of the King of France entered into an unofficial relationship with the main enemy of the country, a subject of England, the Duke "B", the counterintelligence service (cardinal) uncovered this conspiracy, and almost brought it to the king, BUT a peasant from the province (D artagnan) drugged brains of the 3 Musketeers who quit the service and helped him betray his king. In the process, he seduced the wife of the owner of the hotel where he lived, but this is so, little things.
    2. Uryukc
      Uryukc 17 July 2016 17: 42
      0
      Para-para-paradise in our lifetime!
      beauty and cup happy blade
      bye bye shaking feathers on hats fate more than once whisper merci baku)))
  9. RexMVDshny
    RexMVDshny 16 July 2016 10: 08
    +1
    Firstly, the unification of the fleet should be unambiguous, however, it must be borne in mind that if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation perform tasks so to speak standardized and there is the possibility of unification of equipment, then units of the National Guard of the Russian Federation perform various tasks that do not allow a clearly standardized fleet. But you need to strive for this
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 16 July 2016 10: 33
      +4
      The main thing is that unification would consist in spare parts, the same axles and engine. Machines may differ and may not resemble each other at all, but if they use only components and assemblies, then their provision will not be difficult. A striking example of BM Shot and KAMAZ 4326 based on the nodes of which it was built.
      That is why I believe that unification should not be built on machines, but on nodes.
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 44
      0
      Now tell me if you advocate for unification !!! Why the hell in the mountains for example heavy BTT?
  10. Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari 16 July 2016 11: 24
    +1
    It would be interesting now to go to serve in the guard: fun times are coming.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 08: 17
      0
      For God's sake sign a contract and go
  11. Rav_Poroh
    Rav_Poroh 16 July 2016 11: 35
    +7
    The author - the patrol service of the police is not transferred to the Russian Guard, it will remain in the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  12. Old warrior
    Old warrior 16 July 2016 13: 41
    +1
    We are not so much Nat. Guard needs to be restored, how many NKVD.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 08: 21
      0
      I agree, but we need Comrade Stalin and L.P. Beria. By the way, not the most negative character in our story
  13. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 16 July 2016 14: 07
    +8
    What is there to talk about. The "National Guard" was created to suppress unarmed protests and eliminate armed provocations. She needs patrol cars, water cannons and paddy wagons.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 08: 25
      0
      Lieutenant, for example, if a gang of some scumbag infiltrates the city of N. Do you want to use water cannons to kill them or immediately call the Airborne Forces?
  14. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 16 July 2016 14: 12
    +1
    To the Old Warrior: "... to restore the NKVD"
    I agree with your idea, but doesn’t it seem to you that the horde of white-collar workers (Kasyanov, Navalny, Akhedzhak, Latin) is therefore free and gnawing the foundations of Russia, because their presence serves as the reason for the creation of the National Guard? And whether the National Guard will tame the liberals, is still a big question.
  15. akmoa781
    akmoa781 16 July 2016 14: 13
    0
    Once the efforts of Stalin and Beria created a very effective law enforcement system of the NKVD. This system was successfully finally destroyed in 2011. They are trying to build something new and effective on its ruins.
    Everything new is well forgotten old, or it may be easier to take your head in your hands, go back and do not break anything, add what you need now and get what you need now, but .... ????????
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 July 2016 15: 21
    +1
    That's how we live officially and emotionally. There is no Rosguard, there is a National Guard.
  17. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 16 July 2016 17: 16
    +4
    Somehow the equipment for the National Guard, designed for operations in cities, is very alarming. Against whom are they going to use it? Against people driven to hopelessness by poverty? Who will mine the roads along which the National Guard will go?
    Cars will be painted according to a special colorographic scheme and equipped with special light and sound systems to combat riots.

    the command of the Russian Guard began the purchase of specialized Tornado vehicles created on the basis of the Ural-4320 truck and designed to destroy barricades and other artificial barriers. The machine is equipped with a blade, gas spray and a water cannon.

    I would like to see the terrorists this technique is designed to fight. They try to keep us, as always, for idiots who can inspire anything.
    In fact, I see that a war is being prepared against the people who can oppose the dominance of the oligarchs and poverty.
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 16 July 2016 19: 34
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail M
      I would like to see the terrorists this technique is designed to fight.

      You will not see. this technique has one purpose - to suppress riots within the country. And there is only one effective method of combating terrorism - undercover. And for him a completely different technique is needed.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 17 July 2016 08: 48
        +2
        There is no technique needed !!! And SEXOTS are necessary !!! (who do not know the secret agents)
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 17 July 2016 15: 31
          0
          Quote: Nehist
          There is no technique needed !!! And SEXOTS are necessary !!!

          And they too.
    2. Slavs69
      Slavs69 17 July 2016 11: 08
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail M
      I would like to see the terrorists this technique is designed to fight.

      Drive to the Caucasus. Take a look firsthand
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 08: 31
      0
      Field Marshal, but the Internal Troops didn’t scare you? Or do you think that in case of unrest, God forbid, BB would have stood and husked seeds? Forgot Novocherkassk?
  18. bbss
    bbss 16 July 2016 17: 53
    +4
    Yes, I’m still thinking where and from which side is the permit system stuck ?!
    After the idiotic alteration of the police into police in the ranks of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, professionals greatly decreased. Everything just began to settle down ...
  19. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 16 July 2016 17: 58
    +1
    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
    At least a year will be required for the result to be well-coordinated units, equipped with everything necessary. I hope there is time.

    BRED !!!
    Money is NOT! wassat
    Another global cut !!!
    shl. or "hidden" mobilization ??? belay
    "In fact, I see that a war is being prepared against the people who can oppose the dominance of the oligarchs and poverty." (C) Mikhail m (+)
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 08: 35
      0
      Astronaut, why repeat the horror stories of Kasyan IR?
  20. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 16 July 2016 18: 07
    0
    Quote: akmoa781
    Once the efforts of Stalin and Beria created a very effective law enforcement system of the NKVD. This system was successfully finally destroyed in 2011. They are trying to build something new and effective on its ruins.
    Everything new is well forgotten old, or it may be easier to take your head in your hands, go back and do not break anything, add what you need now and get what you need now, but .... ????????

    Will not work !
    The old system defended the state! Now, .... (write, yourself)! wink
  21. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 16 July 2016 18: 20
    0
    Quote: dr.star75
    Carefully "re-read the film": the wife of the King of France entered into an unofficial relationship with the main enemy of the country, a subject of England, the Duke "B", the counterintelligence service (cardinal) uncovered this conspiracy, and almost brought it to the king, BUT a peasant from the province (D artagnan) drugged brains of the 3 Musketeers who quit the service and helped him betray his king. In the process, he seduced the wife of the owner of the hotel where he lived, but this is so, little things.

    Again, this stinky England!
    A similar option, "Midshipmen, forward!" ! laughing
  22. NKVD
    NKVD 16 July 2016 20: 26
    0
    They decided to save money on pensions for old people. Long live amusing regiments.
  23. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 16 July 2016 21: 37
    0
    Quote: Cosmonaut
    Quote: dr.star75
    Carefully "re-read the film": the wife of the King of France entered into an unofficial relationship with the main enemy of the country, a subject of England, the Duke "B", the counterintelligence service (cardinal) uncovered this conspiracy, and almost brought it to the king, BUT a peasant from the province (D artagnan) drugged brains of the 3 Musketeers who quit the service and helped him betray his king. In the process, he seduced the wife of the owner of the hotel where he lived, but this is so, little things.

    Again, this stinky England!
    A similar option, "Midshipmen, forward!" ! laughing

    Minusoid, designate your mosk, with which, you do not agree? laughing
    Smelly England? With Smelly England? Or with the movie "Midshipmen, Forward!" ?
    Where, you, bewildered ???! wassat
  24. Sars
    Sars 17 July 2016 06: 09
    +1
    It is quite enough to liberoids, white huntsmen, other traitors-pests to overpower the FSB, but this is not the case with the FSB.
    And the authorities are preparing the WG for the elections to the Duma and the president - apparently they expect riots.
  25. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 17 July 2016 09: 09
    +2
    Quote: Nehist
    There is no technique needed !!! And SEXOTS are necessary !!! (who do not know the secret agents)
    Even earlier (8.38) the same author: "The structure is generally superfluous and incomprehensible." In your spare time, read about goal setting and the set of objectives for achieving a goal. It will be interesting if you can figure it out.
  26. Slavs69
    Slavs69 17 July 2016 10: 59
    +2
    "The OMON, SOBR, and regiments of the patrol and guard service transferred to the department from the Ministry of the Interior"- the patrol service was not transferred.
    "old armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82 " - in the OMON and SOBR some time before the "hitalov" In the FSVNG there was a command to hand over the existing armored personnel carriers to the BHVT warehouses, and they were, mainly, in small quantities in the Southern Federal District and in the western regions. Behind the Urals, units in large detachments (but their use is a real haemorrhoid) were mostly laid up.
    "armored vehicles of the families "Typhoon-K" and "Typhoon-U", .... the characteristics of the latest armored vehicles are superfluous for the tasks facing the units and divisions of the federal service. " - radically disagree. And about the notorious "Federal" - the initial stage of a protected car, the passed stage.
    "For work in cities and towns in the new department they plan to use ordinary trucks and cars, including off-road vehicles, such as the UAZ-Hunter or the Patriot, as well as buses with special color-graphic design, lighting and sound facilities and places for detainees."- in addition to this, they use the ATN (vehicle for transporting orders)" Kamaz-Vakhta "or" Ural-Vakhta "for 25 seats. And as for the work in the city of OMON and SOBR, they prefer" Gazelles "," Soboli "or" Ford -Transit".
    "In particular, the car parks of most of the OMON, SOBR and PPS regiments are a jumble of various cars, from UAZ “loaves” to such rarities as GAZ-66 and ZIL-131. At the same time, the serviceability sometimes leaves much to be desired. " - Forget about rarities! "author-writer" was at least one riot police? Once again I will repeat the teaching staff in the Ministry of Internal Affairs !!! author, read the Presidential Decree on the establishment of the FSVNG !!!
    "And if in Moscow and other large cities the technical readiness of the vehicle fleet of special purpose units and rapid response at a very high level, then in the province there are only a few vehicles per unit in good condition."- LYING!!!!!!
    1. Ivan staryi
      Ivan staryi 18 July 2016 20: 22
      0
      PPS is valid in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and there will remain in the foreseeable raging. Apparently, we are talking about separate units of explosives that performed the functions of ensuring public order. For example, in the Moscow metro. Drew attention to patrols of 2-3 privates, led by a sergeant in police uniform? These are just the military personnel of VV.
      1. Slavs69
        Slavs69 19 July 2016 18: 12
        0
        Quote: Ivan staryi
        Pay attention to the patrols

        Everything is correct. This is an SMHCH. But, again, the author riveted an article without leaving the computer. Didn't study the materiel. Which military units and formations were serving in the PLO, which were "operational, and not stupid:" patrol and post service. "
  27. Slavs69
    Slavs69 17 July 2016 11: 38
    +1
    "According to representatives of the Russian Guard" .... "According to the experts of the National Guard" ..... "While the command of the National Guard does not plan additionally ..." - the author, it's good to drive the foam !!!! what representatives? What are the experts? What command communicated these opinions, words, decisions to you? And where, in the kitchen? A set of stamps for a passing article. You didn’t even really bother to get acquainted with the subject of the article, with the norms of the position of vehicles, not only for parts of the explosives, but also for OMON and SOBR (since this infa is classified as secret). Another ex perd ???
  28. Uryukc
    Uryukc 17 July 2016 21: 34
    0
    The article is most annoying in the article, these obviously are not Russian guardsmen, but judging by the background of the occupying forces. And why do all uber in foreign x / f flashlights instead of eyes)))
  29. Tishka
    Tishka 18 July 2016 00: 33
    -1
    Yes, you can’t do anything to stay in power at all costs! Even the shooting of cars of those who supported you in the elections, the authorities are afraid of their people, even to disperse those who are not happy, they created a national guard! In what way, can they immediately be put on tanks, so that it would be more convenient to pacify the people?
  30. Mikhalychch
    Mikhalychch 18 July 2016 03: 09
    0
    The National Guard stripped the police - there were only "non-combat units" left ... Why was it necessary to transfer the Non-Departmental Security or FSUE Security to a new unit, what will be their functions, probably to protect state structures, but how will this be comparable to competition in the security business. Yesterday, these Guards took under the protection of citizens' apartments, shops and other objects and were considered more reliable than private traders. Such a feeling that the center even more centralized even the Police, which was not subordinate to local authorities. Today, in the localities, in municipalities, especially in small monotowns, there are no left protection from criminals, there were units that work only on the tails, committed crimes, and there are no units for prevention, which would patrol the streets. Rosgvardia, represented by OVO, WILL NOT PATROL THE STREETS, SMALL FOR THE SYSTEM. Where is the truth, brother?
  31. Mikhalychch
    Mikhalychch 18 July 2016 03: 17
    0
    But the old Guard, will be considered guards and what? ..