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The Russian rifle has a lot of records, and even more - ahead!

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Patriotic rifle ORSIS has become a world-class sensation


The pages of the KM.RU portal often contain materials of critical content. We offer readers interviews of experts who are not afraid to point out the real problems of our country. At the same time, it would be completely wrong to form only a negative picture of the present. In Russia, in spite of everything, there are major successes. Far from all the plants collapsed, not all the best minds went abroad.

The outstanding achievement of Russia was the ORSIS rifle, which has already managed to create a sensation both domestically and in the world.

The Russian rifle has a lot of records, and even more - ahead!


For details, we turned directly to the manufacturer. And here are the answers we received.

1. Is it true that individual ORSIS models are superior to world analogues?

All ORSIS rifles have the accuracy of 0,5 MOA. This means that five shots at a distance of 100 m fall in a circle with a diameter of 1,5, see. If a rifle has a accuracy of less than 1 MOA, then this weapon can be considered highly accurate. The accuracy of ORSIS rifles at half an angular minute corresponds to the performance of many foreign analog rifles, and sometimes exceeds these figures.

2. Which countries are the most serious competitors of domestic products in your field?

First of all, these are weapon manufacturers of Austria, England, the USA and Germany.

3. Is the ORSIS rifle a product for hunting, sport or self-defense?

The entire range of ORSIS is divided into three areas: special, hunting and sports rifles. Most buyers of ORSIS rifles are high-precision shooters and hunters. Thanks to calibers such as .300 Win Mag. (7.62x67 mm) and .338 Lapua Magnum (8.6x70 mm) The effective range of rifles in these calibers can be up to 1200 - 1600 m, respectively, which allows owners of ORSIS carbines to hunt long distances, whether steppes or mountains.

Excellent indicators of accuracy are of interest for athletes who take part in the Championships for high-precision shooting, and it should be noted, they perform very successfully.



4. Tell us about victories with rifles ORSIS in competitions in high-precision shooting.

If we talk in particular about the ORSIS T-5000:
- The TsSN FSB Alpha team took the gold with the ORSIS T-5000 rifles at the 11 World Sniper Shooting Championship (Hungary) in 2012.
- Belarusian Alfa took the gold with ORSIS T-5000 rifles at the Sniper Olympics in 2014.
- Ian Berry with an ORSIS T-5000 rifle achieved excellent results (third place in the “B” and “G” classes) at the prestigious “Mac Queen” sniper competitions in the UK in 2014.
- The ORSIS T-5000 rifles brought gold to the Chinese team at the Sniper Shooting World Cup (Hungary) 2015 year.
- Valery Shits with an ORSIS T-5000 rifle won first place in the qualifying match (600 distance m) at the F / TR Championship in Pakistan in April 2016 of the year.

This is not the last victories of the flagship "Promtechnology", many records and achievements are still ahead!

5. Why is the price of your products so high, and do you plan to lower them?

The price of ORSIS rifles is absolutely competitive for rifles of this class. The fact is that the technologies and materials used form the final cost of the product. For example, grooves inside the bore are made by single-pass cutting technology, the so-called “Technology of Champions”. This method is quite expensive and costly in terms of time, but it allows you to get trunks with excellent accuracy and minimal tolerances.



It should also be noted that modern high-precision weapon systems can only be made of first-class materials. Wood laminate and high-grade barreled steel used for the manufacture of barrels: stainless steel (type 416R) and chrome-molybdenum steel (type 4140). Special stainless, high-strength steels are used for the production of bolt groups and release mechanisms. False constructions are made of various materials: wood laminate (special weapon plywood), precious woods and aluminum.

If we compare the cost of foreign rifles in Russia, in most cases ORSIS will have the most attractive price.

6. Are there orders for ORSIS from other countries?

We are actively working in the international market: with the countries of Europe, the Middle and Far East, the CIS countries.



7. How strong is the design base on which ORSIS is based and will there be any new models soon?

We have our own design office, and it has developed advanced technical solutions that are implemented in the process of manufacturing high-precision weapons systems ORSIS. For carrying out design work, modern software, computer simulation tools and control software for CNC systems are used. Cooperation with specialists of leading Russian research institutes and higher educational institutions specializing in metalworking, materials science, design and testing of modern weapon systems is carried out on an ongoing basis.

ORISIS is above all a whole team of like-minded people who are passionate about work, aiming at achieving the best results and proud of their products.

At the plant's facilities, a full cycle of production of rifled weapons has been established: the manufacture of barrels, bolt groups, triggers, boxes, assembly, inspection and test shooting of finished products. Development of designs, technologies, selection of equipment - all this was carried out by the specialists of the plant without the involvement of foreign experts. Rifles ORSIS - completely independent, original development.
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  1. alpamys
    alpamys 12 June 2016 05: 43
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    Maybe it’s not haphazard to anyone, therefore, they do not make rifles for such distances, the Germans, the Austrians, the Swiss, the recognized gunsmiths, since they do not, it means there is no need.
    1. B-15
      B-15 12 June 2016 07: 16
      +25
      It is necessary to ask a completely different question - why do you have to make products necessary for the country under foreign cartridges? Where are our ammunition with similar characteristics ??
      And so, this is an extremely necessary product. And to complete the picture, the material lacks a small overview of the products.
      1. qartzess
        qartzess 12 June 2016 07: 52
        +11
        Orsis is a private and commercial project, which is why they are made to common world calibers. 223, 308, 3006, 338 have long been mastered by our industry in both free hunting and combat variants.
        And for special tasks for the army, the state must engage in new developments, which is being done (for example, the Exhaust rifle complex, etc.)
      2. alpamys
        alpamys 12 June 2016 07: 59
        +1
        Quote: B-15
        It is necessary to ask a completely different question - why do you have to make products necessary for the country under foreign cartridges? Where are our ammunition with similar characteristics ??
        And so, this is an extremely necessary product. And to complete the picture, the material lacks a small overview of the products.

        Exactly ... the design of any weapon begins with a cartridge, in the union he was engaged in shooting from chalk and for competitions there were special cartridges, the so-called "target" with a brass sleeve.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 12 June 2016 08: 15
        +5
        Quote: B-15
        Why do you have to make products necessary for the country under foreign cartridges?

        There are good cartridges, why reinvent the wheel?
      4. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 12 June 2016 09: 26
        +6
        Where are our ammunition with similar characteristics?
        Novosibirsk cartridge, Barnaul cartridge. Plus, the Lobaevs have their own ("candle factory") in the near future.
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 12 June 2016 17: 49
        +3
        The Russian rifle has a lot of records, and even more - ahead!

        T-5000 is definitely a buzz karamultuk! The Chinese broke up with him at special forces competitions good
      6. Hon
        Hon 12 June 2016 23: 37
        +1
        And we just do not have enough high-quality sniper cartridges
  2. mivmim
    mivmim 12 June 2016 07: 11
    +2
    Well done, to shoot with her.
  3. Deck
    Deck 12 June 2016 07: 47
    +6
    The technology of barrel production, purchased from Bartlane, shutter groups and USM under license from Farley, American CNC machines, training of specialists in the USA - this is the basis of Orsis production. Therefore, the last paragraph of this advertising article is not true. Why not a domestic cartridge? Because 7.62x54 R not only does not correspond to modern ideas about high-precision ammunition, but also there are no cartridges and especially bullets that allow you to assemble an accurate cartridge.
    1. qartzess
      qartzess 12 June 2016 08: 01
      +2
      I completely agree, the 7,62 x 54R is a military hard worker (SVD, RPK, etc.), but it’s nothing like a precision munition, although the Record rifle with it gives a more or less decent result, though not at distances close to a kilometer.
      1. lukke
        lukke 12 June 2016 14: 01
        +6
        I completely agree, 7,62 x 54R is a military hard worker (SVD, PKK, etc.)
        I would give dearly to see how you would shoot with ammunition 7.62x54 from RPK
        1. qartzess
          qartzess 12 June 2016 18: 10
          +3
          Smiled, of course the PC !!!
  4. air wolf
    air wolf 12 June 2016 08: 17
    +1
    This one, Lobanov, had already got his Orsis ss, the SV-98 was shooting no worse, and from the Russian there was only a plant in Russia. Barrels made of imported steel, like everything else. We have better price-quality ratio: Elk-7-1, MP-142K
    http://www.baikalinc.ru/ru/company/317.htm
    which also need to be promoted, because this is purely ours!
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 12 June 2016 08: 44
      +7
      Lobanov is Lobanov, and Promtekhnologii is Rogozin Jr. ( laughing wink they say so at least, and the eldest, whether the younger is not important)
      1. cap
        cap 12 June 2016 08: 46
        0
        Quote: kagorta
        Lobanov is Lobanov, and Promtekhnologii is Rogozin Jr. ( laughing wink they say so at least, and the eldest, whether the younger is not important)


        The youngest was "lucky". laughing
    2. cap
      cap 12 June 2016 08: 44
      +5
      Quote: air wolf
      which also need to be promoted, because this is purely ours!


      Better to see.
    3. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 12 June 2016 08: 47
      +3
      That moose 7 that mr 142 civilian versions and the difference in the rifling of the trunk. And these boltoviki were made under hunting cartridges.
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    5. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 12 June 2016 10: 01
      +8
      First, not Lobanov, but Lobaev (their two brothers). Secondly, what does the Lobaevs have to do with ("ORSIS" and "PROMTECHNOLOGIA")? They, the Lobaevs, have their own (the "LOBAEV" corporation)!
    6. qartzess
      qartzess 12 June 2016 10: 58
      +4
      Well, let the Kalashnikov concern promote both Elk and MP-142K, and no one is stopping, instead, for example, Los 9,3x64, for example, can’t be bought at all, but has anyone seen MP-142K in a store ??? And Orsises and even import went to the store and bought.
      Lobanov, Lobaev or Rogozin, who cares who promotes, no matter whose technology, it is important that this is done in Russia, people work for us and get paid.
      The more industries there are, the more competition, the better the product will be.
  5. Antiprogressor
    Antiprogressor 12 June 2016 08: 50
    +3
    Quote: alpamys
    Maybe it’s not haphazard to anyone, therefore, they do not make rifles for such distances, the Germans, the Austrians, the Swiss, the recognized gunsmiths, since they do not, it means there is no need.

    In the ultra-long-range with us, Lobarev is making progress.
    Not everyone is capable. And the Germans invite our gunsmiths to work. And the leaders of the United States. Well, it is necessary to learn from their private elite gunsmiths. And not a single one of the Ministry of Defense will order on a massive scale (very expensive and capricious) And not a single large plant will be able to withstand tough extra-standard, non-regulatory requirements (otherwise, why are the standards?)
    Further. Ammunition is selected for quality and for export. We have Kalashnikov and were produced under the NATO patron.
    A private company only for export and hope. There can be only one support from the state: a kick in the ass for the sake of the lobby of the state corporation. So sticks in wheels fly from all sides. And then there’s a development cartridge, move on, spend a billion of your own money, get into debt, and state competitors will eat you up. So thank privateers for this small contribution to the history of Russian small arms.
  6. Antiprogressor
    Antiprogressor 12 June 2016 09: 03
    +5
    Quote: air wolf
    This one, Lobanov, already got ss to his Orsis

    Absolute ignorance and idle talk.
    Lobaev is not Sorokin. And he never released Orsis.
    Match barrel LOBAEV Hummer Barrels. [6] It is made 100% of domestic materials [7]. It has been announced that the rifle is preparing for a world record for shooting at 3400 m and above [7].
    "Remember, writing for the newspaper or the free son of the ether: not sonnets, but sonatas; not Chopin, but Shakespeare"
    Damn it! For some reason, the auto editor is changing Lobaev to Lobarev.
    1. 31rus2
      31rus2 12 June 2016 21: 04
      +1
      Dear this record already exists or is implemented, and in compliance with all formalities
  7. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 12 June 2016 09: 43
    -1
    Deja vu. Osiris's advertisement again?
  8. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 12 June 2016 09: 48
    -1
    Something often recently appeared articles about Orsis. Could advertise less intrusively, at least on this site repeat
    1. qartzess
      qartzess 12 June 2016 11: 05
      +2
      The advertisement is engine of the trade!
  9. lukke
    lukke 12 June 2016 13: 59
    +1
    Which countries are the most serious competitors of domestic products in your area?

    First of all, these are weapon manufacturers of Austria, England, the USA and Germany.
    Ukrainians were offended, and Pedro went into a binge
  10. Skubudu
    Skubudu 12 June 2016 17: 59
    +1
    For more private weapons companies such as Orsis, so that there was competition and a quality product.
    The fact that Orsis does the barrels for its rifles on American machine tools and according to American technology, there is nowhere to go ... in Matrasia the production of high-quality high-precision weapon trunks is really very developed. It is a fact.
    1. Tarikxnumx
      Tarikxnumx 12 June 2016 22: 52
      +4
      Absolutely agree. I can't understand the "patriots" at all, what's wrong with using the best imported technologies? What's wrong with taking someone else's work and making your own, even better, on their basis. Or it is necessary to spend man-years and billions of money to do the same thing but from scratch and then again catch up with a potential enemy, competitor, rival (underline the necessary). By creating modern weapons (and indeed any equipment) using modern equipment, even if purchased abroad, we find ourselves on an equal footing. But most importantly, we get the opportunity to train specialists in their homeland and the chances that they will stay here after training are much higher than if they studied and worked abroad.
      The second global plus is that if Russia itself, from scratch, began to create such a technical chain, then where is the guarantee that such an investment will not turn into a banal drank shouting "We have a lot of money, everyone has a double premium!"
      Once I read a story about Peter the Great and Aleksashka Menshikov ...
      Peter published the first newspaper in Russia. By the way, on a Dutch printing press. :) He showed Menshikov a sheet, roughly speaking, A3 on gray paper, without frills and pictures. Menshikov laughed and compared it with European newspapers, which then were already published in two spreads and on excellent white paper with illustrations, etc. For this he snatched out another chuckle from Peter and the phrase - "Rejoice, little, then the big will come" ...
      Therefore, as for me, the emergence of such companies as Lobaev Arms, ORSIS, etc., albeit working for the time being on imported equipment and partly on imported raw materials, should be rejoiced no less than the new Armata and PAK-FA. The equipment is imported, but the people working on it are ours and I hope we will remain ours ...
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 13 June 2016 11: 56
        -1
        Quote: TarIK2017
        Therefore, as for me, the emergence of such companies as Lobaev Arms, ORSIS, etc., albeit working for the time being on imported equipment and partly on imported raw materials, should be rejoiced no less than the new Armata and PAK-FA. The equipment is imported, but the people working on it are ours and I hope we will remain ours ...

        In my opinion, all of these docs and dusk are certainly great, but only at the level of fuss in the sandbox, we will rejoice when we will produce machines and steel for these very docs with dusk, and not only in the required quality and quantity.
  11. tracer
    tracer 13 June 2016 17: 35
    +1
    Well done guys. WHAT did you grumble about? Men make good weapons as they can. But they can! This is an example of a production that wants and can do good things. Yes, they are expensive, like all good things. It's just that we have plenty of "STOLOV", but the exact ones are not very accurate yet. By and large, only Lobaev and ORSIS work at this level. Only the best practices of "commercial" arms companies can and should be in demand in the military and security divisions of the Russian Federation. But only shooters, sportsmen or hunters, or simply weapon lovers who exploit this or that rifle, are able to reveal what is better and what is worse. It is this kind of feedback that allows the design to be brought to high standards of quality and reliability.
  12. Tarikxnumx
    Tarikxnumx 14 June 2016 05: 52
    0
    Quote: Blondy

    In my opinion, all of these docs and dusk are certainly great, but only at the level of fuss in the sandbox, we will rejoice when we will produce machines and steel for these very docs with dusk, and not only in the required quality and quantity.


    Well, suppose we have analogues of American steels (for the same 416r there is an almost complete analogue of 20X13). The issue is exclusively in demand. While these companies produce weapons in small batches, it makes no sense to use our steel. Just because its cost price will not have a significant impact on the final price of the product. But if suddenly there are global government orders, then they will very quickly switch to domestic steel.
    The same goes for machine tools. If a global need arises, then the production of machine tools will be adjusted.
    Once again, the main plus from the existence of these companies is the specialists involved in them.
    Dumb birdies, even with the most modern equipment and in the presence of any metals, will not be able to establish the production of ultra-precise trunks ...
  13. Zai pali
    Zai pali 15 June 2016 15: 00
    +1
    Shot Sako TRG-42 with 338 Lapua Magnum per kilometer. Impressive. But a cartridge costs 7 Australian dollars. Until fig. There is no sense. Mosin rifle can be shot at 600-700 meters for 65 cents, the choice of the face.