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Barguzin is not the last argument

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Recreation of a railway-based strategic missile system is a necessary task for today. At a minimum, this is a response to the development of the so-called American missile defense system, complete with the concept of a fast global strike, whose task is to nullify our nuclear potential and make it ineffective. And we need to look for means and ways to break through this missile defense - only then there will be confidence that a quick global strike will not take place.


The railway complex has a number of advantages, which forced us to return to the idea of ​​its use. The main thing is maneuverability. Track the location of the complex to the enemy will be very difficult. However BZHRK "Barguzin" will probably equip a less heavy rocket than the previous one - "Well done", developed by the Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and produced in Pavlograd. Most likely it will be a product based on Yars.

There are BZHRK and disadvantages, which also should not be ignored. First of all - the problem of safe operation of such a complex. Yet this is not a stationary launch pad, but a railway platform. The rocket has toxic components of fuel, at least in the system of breeding warheads. And in general, to travel around a country with a nuclear warhead - there are serious additional risks. Plus, experience shows: there is a very large load on the railway, both in the literal sense - because of the huge mass of the train, and in the figurative - the schedules and schedules break.

Barguzin is not the last argumentIt is not necessary to consider the re-creation of BZHRK as an exhaustive response to the American approach. weapons mass destruction to our borders. For nuclear deterrence to be effective, we need to create a grouping of high-precision weapons such as cruise missiles. We have it, but it is necessary to increase the quantity and work on new, more efficient samples. And most importantly - to base this weapon as close as possible to the territory of the United States. We can blame Romania and Poland for the deployment of missile defense systems on our territory, but we need to understand: the main player is the United States. And they consciously endure these funds on the territory of other countries, primarily in Europe, in order for us to clash with our neighbors and, in the event of an armed conflict, beat them. And the territory of America will remain intact. And with the understanding that these are not Turkish, Polish or Romanian means of attack, they are approaching our frontiers, namely American ones, we need to pull up strike forces to the territory of the United States, including with small-sized nuclear ammunition. That is what will be the most effective deterrent.

We cannot create land bases in neighboring countries with the United States, so the main burden will fall on the fleet - surface and underwater. We will have to have logistics points to call our ships there during combat patrols, but no more. This is also the answer to those who say that Russia does not need a powerful ocean fleet.

And when the Americans feel that their territory, their infrastructure under the gun, they will begin to negotiate. Recall 1962 year: on the one hand, there was a rather tough confrontation, but on the other - it was after the Caribbean crisis that the Americans agreed to an agreement, including on the missile defense system, and on strategic missiles. When they projected Hiroshima and Nagasaki to themselves, they immediately began to negotiate. Now something similar is needed, although it is advisable not to bring the case to a crisis.
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  1. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 27 May 2016 07: 13
    +8
    It is necessary to lay several landmines under the American mainland and inform the American authorities of this flagrant outrage.
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 27 May 2016 13: 49
      +2
      and at night, our scientists slightly change the inclination of the earth's axis?
    2. Megatron
      Megatron 27 May 2016 15: 43
      +2
      Interestingly, is it really possible to place missiles in Cuba again?
      1. kuz363
        kuz363 27 May 2016 18: 10
        +3
        Apparently unrealistic. As in other neighboring countries, because the United States will not tolerate such a neighborhood as Russia deploying a missile defense system in Romania, Poland, Bulgaria ... And maybe soon in the Baltic states. Changing the ruling regimes of the countries of America is a trifling matter. The USA ate this dog.
      2. demo
        demo 30 May 2016 13: 11
        +1
        In Nicaragua. To guard the channel.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 28 May 2016 07: 27
      +1
      Wherever the Americans build bases, Washington's main goal.
  2. Yurmix
    Yurmix 27 May 2016 07: 57
    +19
    When they projected Hiroshima and Nagasaki upon themselves, they immediately agreed. And now something similar is needed, although it is advisable not to bring the matter to a crisis.

    Do not bring it how? There can be only one conversation with these scum, only all the best weapons in Russia and not otherwise, then they will stand on their hind legs. The language of diplomacy is not stupid, and throwing beads in front of pigs is at a loss.
    1. poacher
      poacher 28 May 2016 01: 00
      0
      the Yankees, on the other hand, continue their nuclear tests, they did not sign a termination agreement ... play ahead of schedule when they plan their tests, launch their small charge from a container-type installation, and preferably from their bulk carrier ... and let them look around.
  3. Titanumide
    Titanumide 27 May 2016 12: 43
    +1
    And if you equip a missile defense with a non-nuclear arsenal of long range. And the load is not large and operation is less dangerous. And how do you look at anti-aircraft missile defense?
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 27 May 2016 13: 51
      0
      meaning? what to cover and from what? s300v will cope with the threat much better than the BZHRK air defense tied to rails
      1. marshes
        marshes 27 May 2016 14: 33
        0
        Quote: DrVintorez
        meaning? what to cover and from what? s300v will cope with the threat much better than the BZHRK air defense tied to rails

        Stations.
        For you in the Russian Federation this is not a problem, you produce the complexes yourself. For countries with not a large budget, but a busy railroad. Titanumid, the case says. The same TOR-2 modular design can be used.
        1. Lieutenant Izhe
          Lieutenant Izhe 28 May 2016 13: 10
          -2
          But the most powerful and destructive weapon is alas people.

          belay Why not "Verboi" ("Needle") from the knee on the "shooting star of Death" SHAKE ?! wassat
          (the one-term effectiveness of the fight against hypersonic warheads of the BR is TRACKED!) laughing
          PS Dap on this site "military-technical" WUNDERkindOFF, damn it ... starting with L. Ivashovwassat
          1. Lieutenant Izhe
            Lieutenant Izhe 28 May 2016 15: 36
            0
            this answer refers to the offer to "work" as Thor on BB BR ..
            swamps (3) KZ Yesterday, 14:33 ↑
            Quote: DrVintorez
            meaning? what to cover and from what? s300v will cope with the threat much better than the BZHRK air defense tied to rails
            Stations.
            For you in the Russian Federation this is not a problem, you produce the complexes yourself. For countries with not a large budget, but a busy railroad. Titanumid, the case says. The same TOR-2 modular design can be used.
          2. Alekspel
            Alekspel 12 November 2016 20: 10
            +1
            Compared to Ivashov, you are a pygmy in all respects, and if you already work as a paid troll, then you bite your tongue in relation to people like Leonid Grigoryevich.
    2. trantor
      trantor 27 May 2016 15: 57
      +3
      Quote: Titanumide
      And if you equip a missile defense with a non-nuclear arsenal of long range. And the load is not big

      And where did you get that conventional ammunition will have less mass than nuclear? Quite the contrary ... well, if its power is not brought to the minimum absurdity smile
    3. kuz363
      kuz363 27 May 2016 18: 13
      +1
      Most likely, the operation of such air defense will be much more expensive than stationary. And efficiency is doubtful
    4. Lieutenant Izhe
      Lieutenant Izhe 28 May 2016 12: 31
      -1
      And how do you look at anti-aircraft missile defense?

      then at the same time ... belay
      BZHRK need to "equip and ...
      military brothel! wink
      laughing
      PS tukhachevshchina, damn it ... "optional decavilions" fool
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 May 2016 12: 44
    +1
    we need to pull up strike forces to the territory of the USA, including with small-sized nuclear munitions. This will be the most effective deterrent.

    Gold words. When our missiles are in Cuba, I’m sure the mericatos will sing a completely different song.
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 27 May 2016 13: 53
      +1
      missiles in a cube is good. but the question is - in how many minutes do Americans tear apart Cuba with tomahawks, etc.? now is not the 60s. in my opinion, it is more expedient to create an answer at home. and away from Europe: the Urals, Siberia, etc.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 27 May 2016 15: 26
        +1
        Quote: DrVintorez
        in my opinion, create an answer at home. and away from Europe: the Urals, Siberia, etc.

        The rocket launchers in Chukotka used to stand before. Http://nicksmirnoff.livejournal.com/38882.html
        Why can’t you put it now?
        1. kuz363
          kuz363 27 May 2016 18: 16
          0
          In Chukotka, it is possible to deliver medium-range missiles up to 5000 km, if you exit the ABM treaty. Then it covers not only Alaska, but also half of the US territory.
    2. Lieutenant Izhe
      Lieutenant Izhe 28 May 2016 12: 44
      0
      Golden words

      Tukhachevschina and profanity from Adjutant General L. Ivashov .. laughing
      Our "Boats" are already shooting "from the pier", ballistic missiles need LESS AN HOUR to ...
      QUESTION...
      Maybe it is simpler and GUARANTEED ON YOUR territory will ensure the STEALTH of nuclear forces deterrence, so that "then" within an hour, GUARANTEED to "counter-buy" the supporter ?!
      So, are our boats moving "along the bottom of the world's okiYana" or the enemy, especially in peacetime, DOES NOT ACCENTRATE their routes, so that later like aquarium fish ...?
  5. GAndr
    GAndr 27 May 2016 12: 48
    +22
    Missiles whoever says it is expensive, and missile defense is developing, submarines are good, but damn it is also expensive and countermeasures are also developing by leaps and bounds. Of course, rockets and boats need to be built and as much as we can handle. But the most powerful and destructive weapon is alas people. And it is unfortunate that Washington understood this much earlier than in the Kremlin.
    In short, you need as much as possible forces, means and all that can be poured into various independence movements within the United States and its litter. That is, in fact, to do what they did to us.
    And do you know why this should be a priority? And because in a real nuclear war it will go to all of us, including us. And without a nuclear war, the US cannot defeat us, just as it does for us. Therefore, the most correct and true way to victory over the Anglo-Saxon world is various internal revolutions. Let their stinking stinking world all over the planet simply collapse. And it will become much easier for everyone to breathe.
    This is the most perfect weapon at this moment ..
    1. korvin1976
      korvin1976 27 May 2016 13: 44
      +5
      You measure from the point of view of the rule of law. Unfortunately, the United States and its other satellites have long ceased to be legal states. Freedom of speech, human rights, in these states are fiction. A fiction built on the "permission" of the state to use these freedoms for its citizens, but only in those cases in which it is not directed against the state.
      Recently there was an article about a referendum in Texas. Do you think Texas will be able to separate? I really, really doubt it. even if the referendum in Texas is in favor of sovereignty, then the federal authorities will not allow this, legally at the first stage, if it does not help Texas wash off with blood. And everyone will not care about laws, human rights and other freedoms.
      Russia is currently taking the right path, it is showing the world that it adheres to established laws and regulations. This is a rather long process if we take into account the confrontation of the Western media, but to a certain extent the result is already visible from a part.
      The "exclusivity" of the United States is that they believed that they are GOD. And it happened in August 1945. The events of August 1945 and the events of biblical times are very similar. And from that time on, the United States became the "exclusive" hegemon in the world.
      1. cap
        cap 27 May 2016 14: 18
        -1
        Quote: GAndr
        And without a nuclear war, the US cannot defeat us, just as it does for us. Therefore, the most correct and true way to victory over the Anglo-Saxon world is various internal revolutions. Let their stinking stinking world all over the planet simply collapse. And it will become much easier for everyone to breathe.
        This is the most perfect weapon at this moment ..

        Quote: korvin1976
        Russia is currently taking the right path, it is showing the world that it adheres to established laws and regulations. This is a rather long process if we take into account the confrontation of the Western media, but to a certain extent the result is already visible from a part.


        problem


        Of course this is a problem. Drive the rat into a corner.
        The world hegemon (which made the whole world believe in its exclusiveness) will not give up so easily.
        problem
      2. GAndr
        GAndr 27 May 2016 20: 54
        +2
        Not everything is done quickly. The main thing is to work in this direction. It is clear that in the USA it’s not democracy for a long time but fascism. However, let us recall how ideologically strong the police state was the USSR, whoever said anything. Nevertheless, drop by drop, drop by drop through an alien culture, through a fifth column, dissidents, etc. the Anglo-Saxons managed to rock the USSR and now we have what we have. I think that we need to act something like this, well, of course with its own nuances. The main thing is to set fire and let it smolder. We know that the greater the action, the greater the reaction. That is, the stronger the mattress covers will tighten their nuts the better, in the end there will be an explosion.
        Look, because now the USA has completely lost that former halo of a free country where everyone aspired to, and this is only the beginning.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 27 May 2016 15: 57
      0
      Quote: GAndr
      . Let their stinking stinking world all over the planet simply collapse.

      It’s a good idea, and it has been in the air for many years, but here’s how to make the Americans fight where they fight badly and haven’t fought yet, that is, on their own territory, it’s not to harm their neighbor in someone else’s garden.
      I think it would be necessary to redirect some of the funds from the Ministry of Defense to these types of weapons behind enemy lines.
      1. GAndr
        GAndr 27 May 2016 21: 02
        +2
        Everything is very simple, we must stupidly tweak the war on their continent. Let it be so far in its southern part. Creating as many centers of tension as possible at their borders, let them divert their forces there. Exactly as they do by unleashing wars in Europe at our borders.
        By the way, there are countries like Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. where we can send an army at the request of their governments. Again, too much straining for mattresses, when there is not a weak army near which is the thread of a banana country, but the Russian army ...
        In short, they need to be stupidly mirrored :) Let them make fun of a hot pan :) And you can come up with an excuse to deploy troops, even the most ridiculous one, as they do by deploying their missile defense bases in Europe. And at least - we introduce troops at the request of the Venezuelan government so that the Amazon forests are not cut down by poachers :))
    3. Lieutenant Izhe
      Lieutenant Izhe 28 May 2016 12: 59
      0
      But the most powerful and destructive weapon is alas people.

      yeah, the "German PROLETARIAT", already in 41 "as one" rose up against the "treacherous Hitler" ... laughing
      FEAR ONLY(guaranteed-inevitable scribe))) before destruction can hold back ANY ENEMY!
    4. MaksoMelan
      MaksoMelan 31 May 2016 16: 07
      0
      This USSR had a state-educational state. If the United States falls apart then there will be local kings and sectarians and each will have a nuclear missile. Except maybe Washington. We must not allow the collapse of the United States. But hang them on the neck of Mexico, lobbying the introduction of Mexico in the United States! This bomb will be! And to agitate the Mexicans on this as the desire of Mexico in the bosom of democracy, the care of local Mexicans about their relatives at home! Let's see what happens. Well, there are also countries where their bases are. Blow up the words of Reigon who did not want to allow the collapse of the USSR.
  6. a-cola
    a-cola 27 May 2016 12: 50
    +1
    And now is not all of their infrastructure under attack? I thought that our ICBMs would reach anywhere in the United States.
  7. black
    black 27 May 2016 12: 52
    +4
    Well, not all the cons here, as it is written in the article. Yes, the equipment is heavy and cripples the piece of iron. Not without it. Previously, nuclear warheads were not afraid to carry, but now it has become scary. #I cried#
    1. pimen
      pimen 27 May 2016 13: 40
      +4
      why immediately cripples a piece of iron? Even the former heavier carriage additionally relied on two neighboring ones. This trick remains in stock. In addition, are PGRC in this sense less problematic?
      1. black
        black 27 May 2016 15: 17
        0
        A hundred meters from me sits a former rocket launcher who served in the railway complexes. He claims that the load on the canvas was ultimate. Added work to repairmen.
        1. pimen
          pimen 27 May 2016 15: 35
          0
          if you believe that the YaRS weighs 49t, then up to 68-70t is a sufficient supply (this is without any trick)
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 27 May 2016 16: 07
      0
      Quote: black
      Well, not all the cons here, as it is written in the article. Yes, the equipment is heavy and cripples the piece of iron. Not without it. Previously, nuclear warheads were not afraid to carry, but now it’s scary

      I'm not a fan of the gossip girl Vicki, but here you can find all the links to materials on the BZHRK "Molodets" https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0
      %BE%D0%B9_%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%
      B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%
      BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81
      And also on the Barguzin BZHRK. By the way, the Yars rocket is twice as light as the Scalpel missile used in the Molodets BZHRK.
  8. Evdokim
    Evdokim 27 May 2016 12: 54
    +2
    BZHRK a good addition to the available. Let it scratch turnips, and give birth to another insidious plan, spend denyushku and time. Then we will please them with something else. laughing lol
  9. killganoff
    killganoff 27 May 2016 13: 01
    +1
    BZHRK certainly a serious argument, but there is one BUT!
    The element base of almost all electronic filling in modern products of the Russian military-industrial complex contains IMPORT components, which does not exclude "spyware", which in turn can perform not only parasitic functions at the moment of "H". Gone are the days when we were independent when launching high-tech projects and did not depend on the field of electronics from foreign partners.
    As a person who was closely associated with the navy and the military-industrial complex at one time, I am frightened by the situation when the old, but completely one's own, is replaced with a new one with an enemy filling ... and these are practically all the latest products !!! Whoever is close to this will understand.
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 27 May 2016 13: 57
      +3
      reassure you. There are completely domestic systems. even at pc arm level. Yes, it’s not i7, yes, it slows down. but! they work.
  10. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 27 May 2016 13: 04
    +5
    We also need to revive the Kurier PGRK.
    http://topwar.ru/68819-proekt-podvizhnogo-gruntovogo-raketnogo-kompleksa-kurer.h

    tml
    1. marshes
      marshes 27 May 2016 14: 38
      0
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      We also need to revive the Kurier PGRK.

      You still have no normal, modern, road infrastructure.
      Are concrete concretes reinforced with continuous concreting, with asphalt pavement?
  11. BOB044
    BOB044 27 May 2016 13: 04
    +6
    I completely agree with the author Leonid Ivashov. The main hope for the fleet above and below the surface with missiles is the main hope. The closer we are to the United States, the more accommodating they will be. The United States understands only power. But Russia has power.
  12. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 27 May 2016 13: 05
    +2
    From my childhood I remember such trains heading towards the western borders of our country, and there were still mysterious green cars (not refrigerators). Very beautiful wagons, without windows, doors :)
  13. Vasya353
    Vasya353 27 May 2016 13: 05
    +4
    Quote: black
    Yes, the equipment is heavy and cripples the piece of iron. Not without it. Previously, nuclear warheads were not afraid to carry, but now it has become scary. #I cried#

    I agree. Let our BZHRK cripple our piece of iron better than their missiles cripple our country.
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 27 May 2016 15: 41
      +1
      How to say they are crippling: "To ensure the operation of the BZHRK on some sections of the railways, the track bed had to be strengthened, bridges had to be strengthened."
      So they will be stronger, will last longer our railway. And in another way would the railroaders deal with this issue? smile
      But seriously, according to SNiP 2.01.07-85, the load from the axis of the four-axle wagon is 294 kN (30 tf);
      the mass of the launcher together with the rocket in the TPK exceeded 200 tons, i.e. 3 times more than the standard, because they used two four-axle carts, instead of the usual two two-axle carts, well, as already mentioned, by transferring part of the load to adjacent, front and rear cars using special devices.
  14. Yugra
    Yugra 27 May 2016 13: 08
    +5
    I believe this uncle. He still opposed mattresses in the USSR ...
  15. oblako
    oblako 27 May 2016 13: 18
    +1
    Fiercely plus. Absolutely true statement and no alternative.
  16. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 27 May 2016 13: 34
    0
    The author of the article thinks in old categories. They are not going to put the old 100 tons rocket on the modern BRZhK, but the modern 50 tons on the basis of Yars or Rubezh. Therefore, the load on the railway. the canvas will be ordinary, like any car. These rockets are solid fuel and low toxicity. And instead of three missiles on the train, it’s planned like six. Although of course you have to create a security system and traffic schedules.
    1. Recoil
      Recoil 27 May 2016 14: 17
      +1
      As Leonid Grigoryevich said, the breeding unit is liquid fuel.
  17. VB
    VB 27 May 2016 13: 35
    +2
    In my opinion, the Status and hypersonic missiles, together with the Barguzin, will put the collective west on the brink of unconditional and guaranteed destruction. As I understand it, the introduction of these complexes into service until 19, at most until 20. In the West, they understand that after this date they will NEVER EVER MORE and will not be able to do anything with us, therefore, they have to hurry up and start in the next year or two. True, even now they will not see the 41st, they will not see millions of prisoners, the people are morally ready to meet them. Rather, it will be 1914, but they won't like it, well, no way am
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 27 May 2016 18: 23
      0
      Rather, the opposite. In 1941, the people went into battle with the name of Stalin, for the party of the CPSU. And now who will go to fight for? Putin, Chubais and other liberals? Which brought the country to a beggarly state when they officially talk about the cost of food 30-40% of the family budget. But actually clearly more. In the West, the cost of food is 10-20%.
  18. Arkan
    Arkan 27 May 2016 13: 41
    +1
    There is already an agreement with Nicaragua on the use of the infrastructure of their ports, a little over two thousand kilometers to the US coast. You can already get it.
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 27 May 2016 14: 00
      -2
      you won't get anything out of Nicaragua. unless of course you yourself are the first to bahn. although if you bahn, then 3-4 "burks" will knock down everything that will be launched (I believed it right now). With the first blow to autonomy (Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc.), the Americans will simply demolish everything that moves.
      1. pimen
        pimen 27 May 2016 14: 22
        +1
        Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, (maybe Mexico?) - in any way, would unload the European theater
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 27 May 2016 14: 57
        +1
        "Burke" is not a panacea, a couple of warheads will fly, but this is enough for the territory to be uninhabitable for a very long time, and the Americans take this fact into account, but you do not. The submarine still needs to be found and destroyed, with the surface fleet of course worse. No one will shoot from the ports of Nicaragua, and rest for the crews and repairs, that's it.
        1. DrVintorez
          DrVintorez 27 May 2016 15: 37
          -2
          On their shores, the Americans are able to create for us only a dense anti-submarine defense, which we never dreamed of. You can turn on the minus thrower, but this proves the speed of launching and the arming of the same berks
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 27 May 2016 15: 50
            0
            Quote: DrVintorez
            we have only a dense anti-submarine defense

            Well, Ohio, by the way, are on alert duty in certain squares of several thousand by several thousand kilometers, and these areas are probably lined with modern systems (it is silly to believe that the United States preserved the sausage and did not develop or modernize it in any way). Thus, getting close to the submarine and torpedoing it without letting them launch the Tridents 2 is very difficult if not impossible. And Ohio-class submarines simultaneously find 6-7 units on combat patrols.
            It is necessary to develop its own missile defense and not only around Moscow, but also cover other cities and important industrial facilities.

  19. 31rus2
    31rus2 27 May 2016 13: 47
    0
    Dear, do you agree with this? With common truths? In such a rank and with such education, I honestly expected more from Ivashov. For example, the development and improvement of missile defense, reconnaissance and surveillance systems, another controversial moment, the railway train is dangerous, but nothing more than an airplane strategist or pl on the base, we have good practices on both the CD and ICBMs, which means that the answer to the euro should be to strengthen air defense, to deploy Iskander and Caliber on facilities in Romania and Poland, and on the US ICBM and all negotiations to conduct precisely with such a linkage, and not separately for the KR and ICBM, as for submarines, it should be "free hunters", but also pay more attention to missile defense, now mine is no less relevant, the S-500 is not a panacea, although something already
  20. Recoil
    Recoil 27 May 2016 14: 15
    +4
    Gentlemen, please respect the piety - Leonid Grigorievich left the armed forces with the rank of colonel general, and finished TashVOKU when most of us were not yet in the world. More polite gentlemen.
  21. Old26
    Old26 27 May 2016 14: 23
    0
    Quote: GAndr
    Of course, rockets and boats need to be built and as much as we can handle

    So much, or how much can we master?
    As for the BZHRK. BI will be held at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Then two or three starts. After that, in early 2017, based on the results of these launches, a decision will be made on the full-scale deployment of work on the Barguzin. Or not ...

    Also. This is a very expensive affair. And the deployment of one division of the BZHRK is not the best option (in the USSR they planned to deploy 7 divisions, but deployed 3)
  22. Mestny
    Mestny 27 May 2016 14: 39
    -1
    Quote: a-cola
    And now is not all of their infrastructure under attack? I thought that our ICBMs would reach anywhere in the United States.

    The question is how long it will fly. It is clear that the less the better.
  23. volodya
    volodya 27 May 2016 15: 36
    +2
    They were afraid before our railway complexes, while Gorbachev and the drunk didn’t do anything!
  24. Flinky
    Flinky 27 May 2016 18: 20
    0
    And Nicaragua, what do you think Mr. Ivashov is for us?
  25. MaksoMelan
    MaksoMelan 31 May 2016 16: 09
    0
    It would be nice to buy a place for a base in Cuba just to buy and not to rent. And how to place everything on our own territory there that we want.
  26. Old26
    Old26 6 June 2016 00: 22
    0
    Quote: poacher
    the Yankees continue nuclear tests, they did not sign a termination agreement ..

    Yah? And really continue. What bastards are sitting in our Kremlin. They are silent, as they scored water in their mouths, instead of themselves ... Damn ... What Nonsense YOU CARE!!!! And they signed, and do not continue.

    Quote: Amurets
    Missile launchers in Chukotka used to stand. Why now you can’t put

    Kolya! the missilemen did not stand, although everything was ready and a military unit had already been identified. There should have been 4 R-14 missiles there. Then, already in the 80s, they planned to stage Pioneer, but the commission gave an unequivocally negative answer and managed to defend it despite the fact that it went against the opinion of the Politburo of the Central Committee

    Quote: kuz363
    In Chukotka, it is possible to deliver medium-range missiles up to 5000 km, if you exit the ABM treaty. Then it covers not only Alaska, but also half of the US territory.

    In general, it is not clear what the ABM Treaty has to do with it. And further. At one time, smart heads from the Strategic Missile Forces, despite pressure from the Politburo, said NO to the deployment of missiles in Chukotka.
  27. zombirusrev
    zombirusrev 13 June 2016 17: 39
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    The last argument of Russia is the "PERIMETR" system .... or what is its name "dead head" ....
  28. ksv36
    ksv36 7 November 2016 11: 26
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    Quote: zombirusrev
    The last argument of Russia is the "PERIMETR" system .... or what is its name "dead head" ....

    The "dead hand" will be more correct.
  29. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 9 November 2016 14: 49
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    Attacking us is crazy! How many times can we destroy America? Yes, and they too us. We have different ones there, the so-called dead head or dead hand. Even by concentrating a certain amount of nuclear warheads in one place and blowing up in the very last case, you get an argument with the name (So just get the hell out of it). Let Barguzin be built, maybe this will help prevent the last case.
  30. Alekspel
    Alekspel 12 November 2016 20: 16
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    Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
    Tukhachevschina and profanity from Adjutant General L. Ivashov ..

    Attention administrators, such "lieutenants" should be banned forever. In his several comments, he did not express a single significant word, except for dirty expressions addressed to the respected general. He himself must have turned away from the service.
  31. fukudi
    fukudi 14 November 2016 20: 11
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    It was said for Cuba. Yes, this is an argument. The Kuril ridge, islands near Kamchatka, Kamchatka, Chukotka and its islands, Sakhalin, for starters, it will be cooler than Cuba, if Sarmatia is established there, given its characteristics, most of the strategic US objects are guaranteed it will be destroyed. Even if you install the Sarmatian ridge on the deserted islands for the United States, this will be a huge argument, and a decision on missile defense in Romania, Poland, etc. decided in favor of Russia.