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Perspective inter-guard multichannel system of electronic warfare from KRET will lead to a dead end US plans for BSU

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As 25 learned on April 2016, the ground-based and airborne electronic warfare systems Krasuha-4, Khibiny and Himalaya will not be the only horror for the command of the US Armed Forces, as well as the Allied Forces in various theaters of operations. According to TASS, the Concern Radioelectronic Technologies (JSC) has started the testing phase of some elements of the multi-channel and multi-frequency promising modular EW complex currently being developed, designed for strategic defense of the Armed Forces units, industrial and civil infrastructures from enemy strategic aerospace offensive operations.

According to one of the representatives of the concern, the new complex will be formed on the basis of a large number of radiating antenna modules, the energy potential and frequency of which will be set individually, and their antenna posts will receive specialized individual protection systems against air attack weapons.

From this information it follows that, firstly, almost every radiating module of the new electronic countermeasures system will be presented by AFAR, which will allow suppressing several dozen enemy radar and electronic means by multiple digital beams (even one module will be multi-channel), and the system a digital information distribution bus with an open architecture will allow you to connect tens and hundreds of similar modules, which will allow you to fight immediately against thousands of enemy assets. Secondly, the new electronic warfare system will implement an action exclusively aimed at the enemy, which will not create chaos among our units of RTR, air defense, as well as military and civilian aviation.

Coordinates of all radio-emitting and radio-contrast enemy objects participating in an MRAU or any type of offensive operation will be relayed to distribution points and control of EW modules from any ground-based, sea-based and airborne reconnaissance (Radar-DRLO “Oppotnik-G”, “ Gamma-С1 ”, low-altitude detectors of the“ Three Hundreds ”76Н6, general ship radar“ Fregat ”,“ Furke ”, СРТР and passive location“ Valeria ”, airborne airplanes A-50U). These capabilities will allow the electronic control system from KRET to form the most accurate digital picture of the tactical situation with all sources of threats: thanks to the A-50 linking, tactical and strategic cruise missiles outside the radio horizon can be easily pinned off, thus allowing the EW ground posts to be prepared for pre-determined angles and azimuthal coordinates.

A promising EW system also has a number of additional unique qualities that are not available to any Western country today. Thus, due to the huge separation of antenna EW post-modules from each other and from command and control points, the system is able to operate on vast expanses of the Russian Federation, covering the most important Far Eastern, Arctic and European strategic directions with a thick sheet of radio-electronic interference. The functionality of the system will exceed the performance of the Krasuha-4 complex thousands of times: it will be possible to link it not only with single divisions or brigades of the C-300 / C-400 air defense system, but also with structures such as the 1-e Leningradsky Red Banner Air Force Command and Air defense. Even before the enemy’s air attack system enters our enemy’s ground defense system, their means of obtaining external target designation, and the homing system, will be exposed to the most powerful radio-electronic interference: a substantial part of them will be put out of action, and the air defense system will finish. That is, the additional purpose of the advanced EW system is to ensure increased survivability of air defense.

Separate REB radiation modules, as if controlled by a block of an array of electric strings, can be switched on in groups in one or another section of the theater, where air defense and aviation systems will need support with a disproportionately larger amount of high precision weapons the adversary. To this can be attributed the Baltic UN or the North-Western United Nations, on which the combined arsenals of the US SLCM / ALCM and NATO amount to thousands.

TYPES OF RADIO ELECTRONIC INTERFERENCE, AND ALSO ADDITIONAL MEANS OF PROTECTION OF EW MODULES OF NEW SYSTEM AGAINST HIGH-PRECISION WEAPONS

Being a multifunctional ground-based EW complex, "Krasuha-4", equipped with a narrow-beam parabolic antenna, is capable of targeting, broadband noise, as well as barrage interference. The airborne radar “Raptor” AN / APG-77, operating in LPI mode (reduced power and frequency hopping at a frequency of 1 kHz), cannot be “silenced” only by targeted interference, therefore noise and barrier interference will be more appropriate here.

The possibility of placing the modules of the advanced EW system on air carriers is a unique solution, but the tactical situation is very unstable. Today, EW planes could operate over a given area of ​​the theater, and tomorrow - a whole brigade of "Patriots" or temporary supremacy of enemy fighter aircraft would force them to look for other carriers, or to apply passive radio-electronic interference, which in a complex terrain has a number of features that can finally get radioelectronic means the enemy in a "dead end", and act on much larger spaces.

The “focus” is that passive REBs, due to the possibilities of multiple reflections from various artificial and natural reflecting objects with the properties of conductors (to a greater degree) and dielectrics (to a lesser degree), can cover large spaces through the use of specialized dielectric lens , tape and dipole reflectors scattered from aircraft and deployed on the earth's surface. In addition, in the concept of passive REB, innovations may appear, represented by the antenna module emitter of passive interference, which can be “sheltered” from the enemy reconnaissance aircraft behind a mountain ridge or other elevation of relief; This interference can be called semi-active.

Even in spite of the fact that the power of such “relayed” interference (especially in the case of natural reflecting media) is rather weak due to the large scattering coefficient, their efficiency can be quite high against tactical radio communication channels such as fighters performing low-altitude flight in an area where multiple retransmission of radioactive electronic interference occurs. As for passive interference with the use of artificial reflectors, there has also been significant progress over the past 30 - 40 years. Angular, tape and other reflectors began to equip inexpensive and effective microprocessor signal amplifiers that can not only confuse the enemy’s radar with a reinforced reflected signal in the form of dozens of false targets on the pilot’s display, but also change the frequency range of the received signal, which would be misleading the number of enemy radar and communications equipment on a conditional front area of ​​several hundred kilometers. Due to the possibility of introducing active sources of radiation and amplifiers into the method of setting passive REBs, the possibility of frequency correction of REBs appeared, which is a solid advantage in various tactical situations where the enemy can use various radio equipment. Thus, in large regional theaters, all frequency ranges of the REB setting will be important: against tactical aviation and missile defense systems - this is the centimeter X-band, against the DRLO and BIUS “Aegis” aircraft - against the decimeter S-band, against long-range radar and communication channels - decimeter and meter ranges.

The types of radio-electronic interference are also classified according to the effect on the enemy’s radio and electronic equipment. They include imitating and masking REB, and imitating are the most complex and promising.

Imitating interference creates a false information tactical picture for enemy air, land and sea radars. For example, in our troops there are a huge number of different stations of passive electronic and electronic reconnaissance, air defense missile systems, mobile ground-based operational-tactical and strategic missile systems, BPKRK, etc. Each combat vehicle of these complexes has a unique effective scattering surface of the reflected radar signal of RTR aircrafts and enemy target designation, among which the best Western models are the E-8C J-STARS, F-35A, F-22A and the Global Hawk unmanned aircraft "And" Triton "; They are equipped with powerful synthetic aperture radar. The EPR of our ground units can be clearly calculated in the anechoic chamber, and also confirmed during irradiation with the radar of the Tu-214Р aircraft in natural conditions on the ground, and then transferred to the developers of the promising EW system for further inclusion of a simulated type into the program catalog. In this way, any sample of a ground-based launcher identical to a real one can be modeled on the enemy’s radar screen (from launchers of the C-300PMU-2 - 5P85CE complex to the SPC K340P of the Bastion complex). The setting of imitating interference can overload the throughput of enemy radars, which will not effectively select real targets and could lead to the failure of a military operation.

A similar technique is already being embodied in the American cruise missile of the EW MALD-J, which simulates the EPR of various NATO OVS aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment, just like the RTV radar and anti-aircraft missile systems, are the first targets on the list of destruction of the US and NATO air attack weapons. It is logical to assume that a more advanced analogue of the 34YA6E "Gazetchik-E" radar protection complex will become an excellent defensive means for ground or sea modules of the advanced electronic warfare system "Concern Radioelectronic Technologies" at the time of unforeseen circumstances (the approach of a HARM, SLAM-ER or JASSM-ER ). The complex is activated at the moment of detection of an approaching element of a high-precision weapon by an autonomous RLO. The radar / electronic warfare station is turned off, dipole reflectors and aerosols are thrown into the air, and multifrequency generators are also turned on to divert and withdraw PRLR, missiles with IKGSN and laser seeker. But new modifications of "HARMs" are capable of memorizing the initial coordinates of the radiation means, and therefore active protection complexes may also be required, which have taken root well in armored vehicles, especially in modern tanks.

The new EW system will provide strategic support where the provision of the required air defense units may be insufficient and hide from the eyes of all the most important operational and tactical movements of our army throughout the country.
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  1. itr
    itr 6 May 2016 05: 48
    -57%
    somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 May 2016 05: 53
      +99
      Quote: itr
      in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, where did the cool EW troops come from ???

      There are no refueling stations in the Kuril Islands, but everyone has gas in the cars. How did he come from? And hell knows. Russia is generally a mysterious country winked
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 6 May 2016 06: 19
        +8
        There is an answer to this question. )))) They no longer know where to put this fuel. laughing
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 6 May 2016 06: 56
        +10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There are no refueling stations in the Kuril Islands, but everyone has gasoline in the cars. How do you know how the hell knows. Russia is generally a mysterious country winked

        In the USSR, there was also a shortage of everything. And it was. Where did it come from? Resourcefulness. They did something out of nothing. And Romanov, plus for you, because the past reminded you.
      3. opus
        opus 6 May 2016 16: 02
        +10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Where from?

        in the Kuril Islands, fuel is bought not in liters, but in barrels.


        There is one entrepreneur in Kunashir who brings fuel from Vladivostok for consumers. A 200-liter barrel of AI 92 in Yuzhno-Kurilsk, according to local residents, costs 10 thousand. It is easy to calculate how much a liter costs - an average of 50 rubles. Approximately the same price for diesel fuel.

        Quote: itr
        somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????


        Russian electronic components have many special designs: radiation protection, the ability to work in extreme temperatures, etc. But who, besides the military and astronauts, do they need?

        - K1.6350 box body.
        - container body
        - a microwave integrated product U52219 of OJSC NPP Almaz;
        - R-168ShDM antenna and filter unit;
        - mast mast telescopic device of Vladimir Electropribor Plant OJSC;
        - radio station R-168-5, OJSC "Ryazan Radio Plant";
        - radio station R-168-100;
        - graphic information manipulator, modules KLVS-08, LAN, modules CPU-11 -; device UZPI; Computer Baget-23V; "BAGUET-RS3BM" computer, video monitor ВМЦ-51.3ЖК -, keyboard ВМ-85 of JSC "NPTs" Sapsan ";
        - product BRIZ-KM (satellite navigation system 14TS853), ZAO KB NAVIS;
        - product M-498 (data transmission equipment) of Penza Production Association Elektropribor OJSC;
        - dose rate meter of Altair LLC;
        - automated leveling system ASG2.00.00.000 - LLC "Enterprise" Hydrotechnics ";
        - diesel electric units ADS-10, ADS-30 from LLC AMP Komplekt for 55 million;
        - EMU amplifier;
        - rectifier device LLC "Impulse-Project";
        - PM818 module (broadband microwave power amplifier);
        - documenting device;
        - oscilloscope;
        - static converter;
        - HF3 and HF4 ....
        All this is "ours", well, almost.
        ADS10, ADS-30 components are Chinese
        1. dfh4ydfh
          dfh4ydfh 9 May 2016 00: 48
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          dfh4ydfh 9 May 2016 00: 48
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    2. Sura
      Sura 6 May 2016 07: 36
      +24
      somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

      Where does this FACT come from?
      And, how do we take everyone into space and we created and serve most of the ISS, the second by even weapons ... that we first count on the accounts and then everything on the oars, on the oars and so on until the orbit ... fellow laughing
    3. Homo
      Homo 6 May 2016 08: 07
      +18
      Quote: itr
      somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact,

      Where did such deep knowledge come from? Do not confuse the lack of phones equal to the latest iPhone model with electronics!
      1. itr
        itr 6 May 2016 09: 08
        -26%
        Homo chickpeas so name that from the electronics our country does Lamps do not count
        No televisions, no telephones. Which computer do you have? and don’t have to list Che, we are doing it by the hands of the Chinese under the license. Here the soldering iron factories are still alive)))) I recently bought it myself with a wooden handle. Patriotism is good but the facts are facts
        As long as economists in the form of Mr. Rogozin rule the country, we will have optimization current and outsourcers. His last act showed that to save himself he had blamed everything on a 70 year old man! Very courageously! and he took it and resigned it))))) I confused the cards by swagger and by the way in the USSR, the same was not all smooth; with electronics, they lagged far behind the USA
        1. itr
          itr 6 May 2016 09: 41
          -14%
          Right now I'm sitting in the office and looking in a circle of sony and asus computers, a smart calculator, samsung printers, HP, a tachograph for a car - Chinese crap, Nevelir - also China, the th cooler - China, IIII OOOOOO GODS, here it is a native electronic device of RUSSIAN production " PLATO "!!!!!! and I slander our electronics engineers everything for people !!! how did we live without him))))) PS: We waited for Plato for 6 months. In the center they said you will take away a little)))))) It's true !!!!!
          1. grandson of Perun
            grandson of Perun 6 May 2016 11: 04
            +27
            Quote: itr
            Right now I'm sitting in the office and looking in the circle of Sony and Asus computers, a city calculator, Samsung printers ...

            To each his own.
            Someone (the aforementioned Japanese and Koreans) make consumer goods for the "consumer society", and someone (we) make weapons to defend the country from the "democratizers".
            Someone makes "one hundred varieties of sausage" and "flies to the moon" in Hollywood, and someone conducts fundamental scientific research and built + brought out the real ISS with their carriers.
            PS: if Elbrus processors are not used in consumer electronics, this does not mean that they do not exist in nature wink
            1. Maxom75
              Maxom75 6 May 2016 23: 02
              +11
              Who should buy our products? Our developments in oil refining were muddied, they said we were behind. Watch an interview with one of the directors of Lukoil on the Russia-24 channel. So, according to his words, we did not lag behind, and for some we are ahead, but they are not being implemented, since we need an order for at least 10 units, and Lukoil needed 3, they could also order Bashneft, Tatneft, Rosneft. " and Gazpromneft, but they ordered in Europe and China. Thus, their development went to the basket. The conclusion is simple, the state should regulate and be the customer for its own developments, set standards in such a way as to force the manufacturer to purchase equipment designed and manufactured in Russia. And each such installation is from 70 to 100 million dollars. Approximately 17 units were bought. This is how a billion dollars left the country. The same is in the agricultural sector. I suggested already in my letters to the Ministry of Agriculture not to subsidize Rosselkhozbank, but to choose branches of the best manufacturers, to study their equipment, technology, processes, to pay them a premium. Reproduced copied equipment, modules, production lines and processing lines at defense enterprises not up to loaded x now as a government order. If a farmer or an agricultural holding wants to expand production, it is easy to calculate the type of equipment, premises (modules), storage sizes, required electrical substations, pumps, pipelines, etc. using tables. To issue a loan to a peasant with a ready-made production complex, the cost of which is already known, the approximate agricultural production and the rate of profit are known. The payback period is known. calculate the size of the state subsidy and state. support (up to 70% of the cost of the complex is paid by the state as in Israel). Until full payment, the complex is considered a pledge and cannot be mortgaged or sold. This will reduce the cost of product quality control, prevent the spread of diseases and epidemics. The question is where did the state get money for this? Believe me, with this approach, the costs of agriculture on the part of the state will remain unchanged for 5 years, then they will decrease by about half, and the volume of agricultural products will increase 4 times. Pros: loading their own enterprises, new jobs in the village, finished marketable products come from farms, and not from large food factories, where they make not food, but feed for people. The same is true in the low-rise construction of social housing. This is the secret of Europe. You think why they are constantly tightening standards for fuel, agricultural products and so on. It is these strict standards that are adopted in order to protect the domestic market from competitors.
          2. Pre-cat
            Pre-cat 6 May 2016 14: 08
            +9
            A few years ago, at some round anniversary of LG, the head of the company's scientific research department said that without the use of theoretical and practical developments of Soviet and Russian scientists, the company would never have achieved such success. True, his gratitude was limited to a sincere "thank you".
          3. 933454818
            933454818 8 May 2016 10: 46
            +6
            Well, I live in Portugal and the same thing — Sony, Citizen, Samsung, and a lot of things made in China and something people don’t care about at all. And no one is killed because of guilt for the past. For the dictator Salazar, etc.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 9 May 2016 21: 01
              0
              I don’t know about Salazar, but I don’t worry about Stalin either. I regret only that he lived a little. And that we do not have a new Stalin. The situation is something very much reminiscent of the prewar years.
              But still, I congratulate everyone, especially the Veterans of that war, from the Finnish to the war with Japan, on the Great Victory! Health and long life to you!
        2. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 6 May 2016 11: 40
          +13
          Quote: itr
          Patriotism is good but the facts are facts


          The fact that we have electronic warfare and the Americans themselves admit that we are 20 years ahead of them does not suit you?
          Then you went to the wrong resource.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 9 May 2016 21: 02
            +2
            A man confuses the everyday with the everyday.
        3. opus
          opus 6 May 2016 16: 33
          +13
          Quote: itr
          chickpeas so name that from electronics our country makes Lamps do not count

          Go for it (it's so offhand)
          1. Bytovuha:
          GUIDE TO MANUFACTURERS OF ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS of Russia, the CIS and the Baltic countries

          2. Specificity (Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) - the stump is clear; I can’t give the entire list of PIs and nomenclatures; there are hundreds of sheets of them there.



          What’s more interesting to you: MOSFET 44 001.01 - 2010 "Microwave Devices", MOSFET 44 001.03 - 2010
          "Semiconductor devices" or products of quantum electronics MOS 44 001.05-2010?

          3.Double

          Performing OCD, Milander bought a license for Cortex-M3

          Spanks and MO and us ...

          Koneno is not all ice, therefore.
          On October 3, 2015, the United States became aware of charges of illegal export of microelectronics to 11 immigrants from the former USSR, two of whom are Russian citizens. According to the investigation, the US Department of Commerce suspects the illegal export of 165 companies and individuals (of which 119 are Russian), and export restrictions are now imposed on them. Some of these companies are among the leading suppliers of electronic components for the Russian defense industry.

          Repeating the story of 2012 ... wink


          Ultra-fast EV10AQ190CTPY - Quad 10-bit 1.25 Gsps ADC "for some reason" needed by the RF Ministry of Defense.


          and what to do?
          Even if TAM RAD750 costs $ 200 thousand and this is not from a good life ..
        4. 73bor
          73bor 6 May 2016 17: 14
          +8
          The Americans also have "axes" with Chinese boards, and in the USA the production of televisions stopped already in the early 80s, and electronic warfare in our army has always been advanced!
        5. bovig
          bovig 6 May 2016 20: 10
          +10
          Quote: itr
          Homo chickpeas so name that from the electronics our country does Lamps do not count
          No televisions, no telephones. Which computer do you have? and don’t have to list Che, we are doing it by the hands of the Chinese under the license. Here the soldering iron factories are still alive)))) I recently bought it myself with a wooden handle. Patriotism is good but the facts are facts
          As long as economists in the form of Mr. Rogozin rule the country, we will have optimization current and outsourcers. His last act showed that to save himself he had blamed everything on a 70 year old man! Very courageously! and he took it and resigned it))))) I confused the cards by swagger and by the way in the USSR, the same was not all smooth; with electronics, they lagged far behind the USA

          You have all the electronics locked up on TVs, phones and computers!))))) Develop your horizons and you will see that the world is not as flat as you imagine it!))))))
        6. Gray-haired
          Gray-haired 7 May 2016 13: 55
          +2
          Why are you fighting in a padau, poor fellow? Al grew up without vitamins, or gray matter in the hospital, at the time you were born of God, was not there at all? laughing
        7. NordUral
          NordUral 9 May 2016 20: 57
          +1
          But not always lagged behind. In the 50s we walked alongside, only Khrushchev and all were ruined, and Brezhnev and K were all finished up under the guise of general well-being, we simply did not think where it came from. And already labeled with a compass, the type of forever dated finished off the USSR. And then ... that then we ourselves see that, just as the liberals came to power, they are sitting on the neck of the country.
    4. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 6 May 2016 08: 17
      +13
      long ago we did and we owned 15% of the world market of calculators .. and the most sophisticated electronics and automation in serial production is available only to Russia - look at Cosmos - we are the first everywhere .. we work in the instrument-making industry related to crate
    5. iliya87
      iliya87 6 May 2016 09: 01
      +8
      You know, I've been asking a similar question for about 15 years. We and the United States fly into space, not so long ago, China joined. Who first flew everything in the know. The competitive process of the geniuses of science (I think anyone will argue that the space industry is a shine of scientific knowledge and inventions) of the USSR / Russia and the USA. so why some kind of plasma TVs, banal microwaves, etc. appeared in Europe / USA and we have naked Vasya? I think answering this question, understanding will come why we are ahead of the rest in the army (not everywhere, of course, but all the same), but in terms of everyday life or scientific grandees (the Nobel Prize, for example) we are somewhere in the opera ...
      1. Sura
        Sura 6 May 2016 10: 27
        +7
        You know, I've been asking a similar question for about 15 years. We and the United States fly into space, not so long ago, China joined. Who first flew everything in the know. The competitive process of the geniuses of science (I think anyone will argue that the space industry is a shine of scientific knowledge and inventions) of the USSR / Russia and the USA. so why some kind of plasma TVs, banal microwaves, etc. appeared in Europe / USA and we have naked Vasya? I think answering this question, understanding will come why we are ahead of the rest in the army (not everywhere, of course, but all the same), but in terms of everyday life or scientific grandees (the Nobel Prize, for example) we are somewhere in the opera ...

        The answer is simple, we have a competitive price for consumer electronics. The manufacture of all household goods the West has moved for the most part to China.
        1. It's warm there. The walls of the workshops are thin (cheap), heating is not necessary (how much does it take for heating?).
        2. Z.P. an average of $ 500 (women sitting on conveyors) per month (in the United States $ 3000-5000)
        3. A full range of minerals for the production of electronics. Duties for transportation across the border of the finished product are less than for transportation of various kinds of rare-earth materials, etc.
        And all this is included in the price of the final product.
        1. opus
          opus 6 May 2016 16: 52
          +3
          Quote: Sura
          1. It's warm there. The walls of the workshops are thin (cheap), heating is not necessary (how much does it take for heating?).

          For the production of electronics: heat, not relevant.
          Cooling relevant, cleanliness of the room.
          Estimate how much pollen, virus, bacteria, midges, dirt, soot (China is one of the most zass..h countries).
          Quote: Sura
          2. Z.P. an average of $ 500 (women sitting on conveyors) per month (in the United States $ 3000-5000)


          Yes that's right
          -There is no UST, no pension payments, no medical insurance either (in the USA I have a friend who receives 50004 a month, insurance $ 1200 (all incl. truth), there are no labor laws that take these points into account in China.

          Nearly 165 thousand people signed up for a petition to Apple, in which they asked to protect Chinese workers manufacturing iPhone for the whole world.
          / stand up for Apple's Chinese slaves here:

          carpal tunnel syndrome, depressiac, eyes, brains: from the beginning of 2010, ten Foxconn workers committed suicide, and three others tried to commit suicide

          Foxconn CEO Terry Gou recently attended a company’s New Year party at the Taiwan Zoo, accidentally dropped that he “constantly has a headache on how to manage a million animals” (Foxconn staff includes about 1,2 million employees) ... Then (as it is customary to "apologize", after a hangover)
          Quote: Sura
          3. A full range of minerals for the production of electronics. Duties for transportation across the border of the finished product are less than for transportation of various kinds of rare-earth materials, etc.

          No - with PI in China, trouble (not enough). With duties, all the rules.
          It's simple:
          open an enterprise in China? Time to spit: buy a license, work.
          When you create a production, everything is turnkey in 3 months.
          no bribes, no kickbacks, no approvals.
          and we have?
          For land acquisition pay (bribe), for water, for electricity - pay. SES - pay, firefighters, I can continue to pay.
          + official procedure (pay ok), and time.
          result?

          Over the past 25 years, Intel has invested $ 4,7 billion in the Chinese economy.
          Fab 68
          +
          Intel announced its intention to invest $ 6-8 billion in the construction of one new and modernization of four plants in the United States, which plans to produce 22-nm processors.
          the third generation (Sandy Bridge) was created It is in Israel.
          Yes, and third-generation Intel Core processors (Ivy Bridge) half developed in Israel
          One of Intel's largest 22nm factories is located in KiryatGat and is called Fab 28. The first 22nm Ivy Bridge processors were released on Fab 28 in KiryatGat.
          1. opus
            opus 6 May 2016 16: 58
            +3
            Intel plans to launch the 28th release of products on the 10-nanometer process technology in 2016. According to this technology, in particular, processors with the code name Cannonlake will be manufactured, which should become Skylake's successors (almost released in 2015). Well, in 2018, Intel expects to start manufacturing products using 7-nanometer technology ...
          2. Sura
            Sura 6 May 2016 18: 21
            +2
            For the production of electronics: heat, not relevant.
            Cooling relevant, cleanliness of the room.
            Estimate how much pollen, virus, bacteria, midges, dirt, soot (China is one of the most zass..h countries).


            You, obviously, have never been to Russia and what frosts are, you can’t even imagine if I looked at you in January at minus 20-40 degrees Celsius in an unheated room when there is a thick layer of hoarfrost on all surfaces. I assure you that flies and midges are there only in the form of snowflakes.
            A person first freezes, then begins to fall asleep and may not even wake up when.
            Every urban Russian knows when heating is turned on, the price of utility bills increases quite significantly.
            You started koment with incompetence, respectively, all further points are simply stupidly far-fetched and this is all called scientific trolling of a not very competent person.
            There are documentaries about the work of such factories, where large, long and loud show and tell everything, watch technical TV channels.
            1. opus
              opus 6 May 2016 18: 49
              +4
              Quote: Sura
              You obviously have never been to Russia and what are frosts,

              Of course ... almost 50 years here. In Len. area. at our humidity, -28grs it is more difficult for me to endure than -48grs in Yakutsk (it was there too) and often on a service rally in Baikonur and Krasnoyarsk and Murmansk.
              Quote: Sura
              I assure you that flies and midges are there only in the form of snowflakes.

              Is it in China or ours?

              we have "snowflakes do not fly"
              in China: The highest level of danger due to smog is declared for the first time in Beijing

              Indications of the content of harmful particles PM 2,5 (the smallest dust particles with a diameter of not more than 2,5 micrometers, not captured by ordinary masks) in the air on Monday reached the values 300 micrograms per cubic meter and continues to rise. World Health Organization considers a safe concentration of suspended particles PM 2,5 to 25 μg / cubic meter.

              In some suburbs, the level of fine dust rose up to 976 micrograms.
              What are filtration plants for the electronics industry - I know how much it costs.
              Quote: Sura
              Every urban Russian knows when to turn on the heating

              what are you speaking about? vaasche ?! "skidded, or what"?
              Quote: Sura
              You started koment with incompetence, respectively, all further points,

              This farted into a puddle without removing the panties user:

              Who, in general, during the entire period of his "stay at the topvar", did not write / say anything clever (well, or reasonable), except for nonsense of the age of 12 years old child?

              Well, well, "competent".
              I doubt that you could understand what was written ...
              Quote: Sura
              Watch TV technical channels.

              You look like RenTV.
              Let me give you "advice" to understand what it is about, you need to read at least Michael Crichton (John Michael Crichton) Disclosure

              Beat on all sorts of "sexual harassment", business ethics and other American studies.
              in essence in those processes. Your level of development is enough to understand "about dust"
              1. Sura
                Sura 6 May 2016 19: 24
                -1
                Ek heart burst, beat in anger,
                how many, yes with insults ... poison then poison. To distort, distort, show pseudoscientific trolling, the terry liberalist is clearly visible, at a feeding. About dust and dust particles in China ... well, finally they found out ... and how much it was all about, otherwise the planet would not have known anything, enlightened. You yourself do not know anything other than REN, at least I will offer Science 2.0

                Carefully read where I started my komenty, otherwise I took seven miles to the side to heaven, so you fight in quiet anger ... but insanity came quietly.
                1. opus
                  opus 6 May 2016 19: 45
                  +6
                  Quote: Sura
                  Ek heart burst, beat in anger,

                  well, at least self-critical
                  Quote: Sura
                  You started koment with incompetence, respectively, all further points, just stupidly far-fetched

                  Yes, and it did not "beat" ... the talkative heads podstali. Lolami never was the Russian land strong ... where did you just "come in large numbers", al mutants?
                  Quote: Sura
                  the terry liberalist is seen, on complementary feeding.

                  the main thing is that you don’t know how you see it. This is important.
                  Liberast, not liberast, especially the degree of hairiness ("terry") is not for you to judge.
                  "visible"? and you knock "where should", the exploits of the ancestors do not give peace? "We smashed them, smashed them at Komsyuk meetings" - is this a dream?

                  Quote: Sura
                  , I will offer at least Science 2.0

                  mutually, on an open day St. Petersburg State Electrotechnical University "LETI" named after IN AND. Ulyanova (Lenina) (SPbGETU "LETI")

                  invite. M. b. then you will not write about "elastic bands for panties"
                  Quote: Sura
                  Carefully read where I started my comments, otherwise they took seven miles to the side, so you fight in quiet anger ... but insanity came quietly.

                  1. I not only read, but also answered
                  2.You haven’t read what I wrote about because of your grayness.
                  Otherwise, sow ravings
                  Quote: Sura
                  I would have looked at you in January at minus 20-40 degrees Celsius in an unheated room, when a thick layer of hoarfrost lies on all surfaces. I assure you that flies and midges are there only in the form of snowflakes.
                  A person first freezes, then begins to fall asleep and may not even wake up when.

                  did not write.
                  - who suggested that they drive the workers into the unheated.
                  It's written fool
                  Quote: opus
                  For the production of electronics: heat, not relevant.
                  Cooling relevant, cleanliness of the room.

                  this is not an MBT assembly shop, not a Pella, but the Novosibirsk assembly of Su

                  3. Whoever hurts something, sculpts about it.
                  Read his comments carefully, then we’ll talk about insanity
                  1. Sura
                    Sura 6 May 2016 20: 29
                    0
                    The question was asked:
                    Зyou know, I’ve been asking a similar question for about 15 years. We and the United States fly into space, not so long ago, China joined. Who first flew everything in the know. The competitive process of the geniuses of science (I think anyone will argue that the space industry is a shine of scientific knowledge and inventions) of the USSR / Russia and the USA. so why some kind of plasma TVs, banal microwaves, etc. appeared in Europe / USA and we have naked Vasya? I think, having answered this question, understanding will come why we are ahead of the rest in the army (not everywhere, of course, but still), but in everyday life or scientific giants (the Nobel Prize, for example), we’re somewhere in the opera ...

                    I chew i.e. why do not we do consumer electronics in Russia

                    The answer was given:
                    The answer is simple, we have a competitive price for consumer electronics. The manufacture of all household goods the West has moved for the most part to China.
                    1. It's warm there. The walls of the workshops are thin (cheap), heating is not necessary (how much does it take for heating?).
                    2. Z.P. an average of $ 500 (women sitting on conveyors) per month (in the United States $ 3000-5000)
                    3. A full range of minerals for the production of electronics. Duties for transportation across the border of the finished product are less than for transportation of various kinds of rare-earth materials, etc.
                    And all this is included in the price of the final product.
                    And you:
                    ДFor the production of electronics: heat, not relevant.
                    Cooling relevant, cleanliness of the room.
                    Estimate how much pollen, virus, bacteria, midges, dirt, soot (China is one of the most zass..h countries).

                    And then :
                    -who suggested driving the workers into the unheated.
                    Written by fool

                    And about dust particles ...
                    Is it in Russia that winter is not warm?
                    How many of you are sitting there? In a few minutes, one person will not have time to collect different info with different links all over the Internet, or
                    everything is already ready for sections and there is no need to look for a long time, then it should be well paid. Some inconsistent komenty.
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 6 May 2016 14: 26
        +9
        Quote: iliya87
        so why some kind of plasma TVs, banal microwaves, etc. appeared in Europe / USA and we have naked Vasya? I think, having answered this question, understanding will come why we are ahead of the rest in the army (not everywhere, of course, but still), but in everyday life or scientific giants (the Nobel Prize, for example), we’re somewhere in the opera ...


        Yes, one political scientist, Sergey Karaganov, answered here. I think I answered correctly, to God - godly, to Caesar - Caesarean.
        Russia is the only country that defeated all empires, starting from the Genghisides who conquered half the world, ruled China, then the Swedes, who captured half Europe, then Napoleon, then Hitler. We must realize that we are not a nation of traders or manufacturers of shoes, because no matter how hard we try, we get the best tanks.
        1. ver_
          ver_ 8 May 2016 14: 22
          0
          ..we are the descendants of the Genghisides .. Genghis Khan = Caesar Khan = Yuri George Dolgoruky .. His hands reached Italy ..
      3. Idiot
        Idiot 6 May 2016 14: 31
        +4
        A commonplace microwave was invented in the USSR in 1940. Not ready to make a link now, but it's true.
        1. opus
          opus 6 May 2016 17: 10
          +9
          Quote: pft, fkb
          A commonplace microwave was invented in the USSR in 1940. Not ready to make a link now, but it's true.


          1. Not commonplace.
          2.This is not "true" (in 1940 ..) wink Truth- in 1941
          From the archive of the newspaper "Trud" June 13, 1941

          Then .... on June 22, the Second World War began. There was no time for "microwaves"


          and Percy Spencer received a patent for a microwave in 1946 year.
          The world's first microwave oven “Radarange” was released in 1947 by Raytheon and was not intended for cooking, but for quick defrosting of products and was used exclusively by the military (in soldiers' canteens and canteens of military hospitals). Its height was approximately equal to human growth, weight 340 kg, power - 3 kW, which is approximately two times more than the power of a modern household microwave oven. In 1949, their mass production began. This stove cost about $ 3000

          In 1949 we had no time for microwave ovens (there was nothing to eat, let alone "warm up"

          as well as microwave ovens were in the USSR

          ZIL model, Mriya MV model, Electronics, Dneprjanka-1 and Dneprjanka-2 models and SP-01 Electronics, SP-10 Electronics, SP-18 Electronics, SP-23 Electronics, SP Electronics -23, Electronics SP-25, Electronics SP-27, Temp, Pluto, Volzhanka, Rado-Gourmet, Fairy, Take care


          Nya, Yukon, Lena, Mila, Mila-2, Yuzhpolymetal ..

          Microwave Oven Electronics SP-27, VNIITE, 1989.

          good

          in 1989 the stove "Electronics" SP-18 cost 350 p....

          The average salary in the USSR was at that time 233 rubles.
      4. Idiot
        Idiot 6 May 2016 14: 31
        0
        A commonplace microwave was invented in the USSR in 1940. Not ready to make a link now, but it's true.
        1. atakan
          atakan 8 May 2016 04: 11
          +1
          before.
          there is one excellent book on this subject.
          if you read, it will be clear - this technology was familiar to the ancestors in the 30s.
          http://www.e-reading.club/book.php?book=20131
          Dolgushin Yuri
          Title: Miracle Generator
    6. uskrabut
      uskrabut 6 May 2016 09: 44
      +20
      Western media write that in Russia, bears ride bicycles on the roads. Lies! There are no roads in Russia!
    7. vikmar64
      vikmar64 6 May 2016 10: 23
      +7
      Quote: itr
      somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

      In Russia there is no civilian electronics, since there, in addition to the technical and technological level, it is necessary to be able to work in the market with all the consequences ... But the military has different conditions. We always had military electronics and fulfilled all the requirements of the military (within reason wink ) By the way, in the early 70s, when the first PCs appeared, in the USSR there were technological and design developments of a higher level, obtained about the development of AWACS equipment, but they belonged to the category of "secret". On the other hand, even if they were declassified, there is still a question, "would they take the market," then we did not have such skills. And now ours have a very good level in microwave technology, radio photonics and quantum technologies. In 3-4 years, KRET promises working samples of new radars, which, from a distance of 500 km, allow obtaining an almost "television" image of an object with layer-by-layer scanning of its device.
      1. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 6 May 2016 11: 02
        0
        That's right, all military technologies were labeled "sov.secret". And the market requires competition, only under the USSR we didn’t need it. And special military equipment has always been at a high level in the USSR / Russia, the only thing that is now more widely covered is all this ...
    8. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 6 May 2016 10: 52
      0
      What kind of electronics are you talking about? which is in household appliances?
    9. Winter cherry
      Winter cherry 6 May 2016 14: 33
      -2
      How is it not electronics? Do you remember the ruby ​​TV? That's how we are slowly developing. ))))
    10. bovig
      bovig 6 May 2016 20: 02
      +1
      Quote: itr
      somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

      Not every fact is a fact. If personal computers and cell phones are not manufactured in Russia (which is a fact), then this fact does not mean that there is no radio electronics as an industry ... By the way, oddly enough, Soviet radio components are still produced! Not so much as imported ones, of course, but they are still on sale ... Why not appear new? Well, not for mass use, but for special purposes ... That's the difference between our defense industry, that the commercialization of any development is not a priority - only as necessary.
    11. Operator
      Operator 7 May 2016 21: 30
      0
      Never mind - the US military complains about an electronic bubble for AWACS over the Russian air base Khmeimim exclusively for a fee from Shoigu laughing
    12. Katman
      Katman 8 May 2016 20: 05
      0
      The mysterious country of Russia. The Finns drink more Russians, but still more vodka in Russia. Why instead of C-400 not fill the whole world with C2H5OH? Indians and blacks, one hell, the same Japanese, Indians, (The Chinese, it seems, are already getting used to). Well, WE will be like fools, there is no one, we drink with ourselves. Honestly, a bad idea.
    13. Mairos
      Mairos 10 May 2016 12: 38
      0
      Who told you that in Russia there is no electronics? Do not confuse household electronic fintufluha (even useful) and electronics in general. Moreover, in Russia there are successful developments in the field of radio photonics, read on the internet.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 May 2016 06: 19
    +5
    EW complex, designed for strategic defense of the armed forces, industrial and civil infrastructures from strategic aerospace offensive operations of the enemy.

    His native and must be protected for real! good
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 6 May 2016 06: 30
    +13
    These guys need to send money from Rusnano, then everyone will surely be torn apart. And then they have a lot of money there.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 6 May 2016 07: 00
      +2
      Yeah. And try to "break" Chubais laughing
  4. raketnik
    raketnik 6 May 2016 06: 35
    -5
    Quote: itr
    somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

    and the tale about the king of the soltan ---- GO THERE I DO NOT KNOW WHERE AND Bring THAT, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ...... laughing that weakened tsatsu on my knee ..... AT LEAST I STARTED THE SERVICE IN A SEPARATE REB BATTERION IN THE NOVOSIBIRSK REGION. AND IN 86 YEAR TWO STATIONS ARE DISSOLVED AGAIN AT ANGLES OF THE DESANTURY REGION ON SHILOVSKY
  5. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 6 May 2016 06: 58
    0
    And how to protect all of this from the EMP of a nuclear explosion conducted in near space over our territory ??? And will these systems work after that? The same applies to them, if in the near space over Europe or the United States detonate nuclear charges, what will happen to their electronic warfare systems?
    PS Perhaps this question is amateurish, then forgive my forgiveness ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 May 2016 07: 42
      +5
      We have already learned how to protect electronics from EMP. The only question is the power of the impulse and its consequences, because in return quite combat equipment can fly.
      Nuclear charges are the last resort. But all sorts of jammers, tricks and jamming stations can significantly complicate the life of the enemy, since they affect precisely the incoming channels.
    2. Homo
      Homo 6 May 2016 08: 10
      +4
      In a nuclear war, neither EW, nor tanks, nor infantry will be needed, and indeed nothing will be needed - the simplest microbes and bacteria do not need equipment
    3. Samoyed
      Samoyed 6 May 2016 08: 42
      +1
      The opinion of the amateur. The case of the impact on the homing heads. They should be sensitive in terms of functionality, therefore it is easier to crush them. And the rest of the electronics is no longer important. And secondly, this homing head can slip an adequate artificial mirage in terms of the target’s parameters and take it to him.
    4. uskrabut
      uskrabut 6 May 2016 09: 46
      +5
      Radio tubes won't do anything wassat
  6. cedar
    cedar 6 May 2016 07: 43
    +4
    Now the main thing is for the teams to use electronic warfare systems to pass on time and clearly, i.e. so that the top command staff at a decisive moment does not betray and sell, and on this the adversary works hard and does not spare money.
    There is a legitimate hope that the Russian Guard will be a means of combating the corrupt traitors of the motherland!
    1. Iline
      Iline 6 May 2016 08: 13
      +2
      They are doing everything right and moving in the right direction. the enemy must be beaten into the most sensitive, and this is today over the hill complex management systems. There is no system - there is no control, and individually, as I understood from the analysis of the capabilities of the latest weapons, is not welcome.
      The children played a lot of computer games with their several "lives" and the ability to repeat.
      The other day, an American general was very sad about the possibilities of our existing electronic warfare equipment.
  7. baudolino
    baudolino 6 May 2016 07: 45
    +6
    I hope that in addition to the information issued, there are also owls. secret surprises.
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 6 May 2016 07: 57
    +4
    Quote: itr
    somehow it's still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact , then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

    in Russia there is no electronics and it fact... you probably wanted to write fake? Judging by the store shelves, we have only Turkish tomatoes and only Norwegian salmon, though we have our own seeds, but there are no domestic military electronics on the shelves. So it became a shame for you, however, the Americans also scratch their turnips - how is that ???
  9. Pazuzu
    Pazuzu 6 May 2016 08: 00
    +1
    Quote: itr
    somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????

    Why did you get such nonsense? If iPhones are not made in Russia, this does not mean that there is no electronics. The development and production of electronics for the defense industry is in full swing, and without borrowing imported components.
  10. Volksib
    Volksib 6 May 2016 08: 08
    -1
    The story with the URO destroyer "Donald Cook" and our Soviet-made Su-24 with the "Khibiny" proved the effectiveness of this type of electronic warfare. NATO grouping involved in ucheniyah.Tak to say turn off the "decisive force"))))). How many crew members have filed a report on dismissal?))) ..
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 6 May 2016 08: 41
      +4
      Yes, stop quoting these tales about the dismissal of the crew, this duck was launched by clearly local - like "patriotic" media.
      The critical issue of using electronic warfare is effective range. Will a destroyer, an electronic warfare carrier, be able to "allow" the effective range of electronic warfare in a combat situation? Judging by open sources, the setting of the suppressive signal was carried out directly in the air defense zone of the destroyer.
      One can only guess.
      If the ship’s group is covered by aviation, it will be impossible to approach for jamming - this is a matter of tactics.
      1. LVMI1980
        LVMI1980 6 May 2016 09: 57
        +1
        I learned this news from the Belarusian media. (Ours were still silent about this)
      2. Volksib
        Volksib 6 May 2016 11: 21
        +2
        Fairy tales are not fairy tales, but Aegis was suppressed on a destroyer. The Su-24 simulated an attack on a ship several times. An American drone was planted in Crimea. The development of domestic electronic warfare equipment is underway and this is very encouraging.
  11. kos2910
    kos2910 6 May 2016 08: 20
    +1
    Quote: itr
    no electronics and this is a fact

    Who invented this? Military electronics has always been, and has now recovered. If iPhones do not, this does not mean that there is no electronics. The problem is in the radiation resistant element base - they hoped to buy everything in the west. They will restore it, they did it before.
  12. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 6 May 2016 08: 32
    +2
    As far as I remember, even the very first HARMs already remembered the coordinates of the radar installation. And the latest modifications are distinguished by a more complex algorithm for selecting the trajectory - approach to the radar from the flank / rear, where it is more difficult to detect for directional stations, frequency tuning.
  13. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 6 May 2016 08: 39
    0
    Good news in the morning !!!! good luck!!!
  14. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 6 May 2016 08: 54
    +2
    The author focused on EW in the microwave range. And, since (straight asks, as in the old days - a potential) a completely real enemy expanded the frequency range of the tactical link of ground and air forces from 30-400 MHz to 2500 MHz and all this is SDR, then here it would be to "sharpen teeth" on the pages of VO. But I'm afraid this is in the section "before reading - burn!"
  15. RedBaron
    RedBaron 6 May 2016 09: 15
    -3
    Quote: Rusfaner
    The author focused on EW in the microwave range. And, since (straight asks, as in the old days - a potential) a completely real enemy expanded the frequency range of the tactical link of ground and air forces from 30-400 MHz to 2500 MHz and all this is SDR, then here it would be to "sharpen teeth" on the pages of VO. But I'm afraid this is in the section "before reading - burn!"

    It’s even problematic to discuss here, so it’s not patriotic hi
  16. guzik007
    guzik007 6 May 2016 09: 18
    +2
    I have long read a fantastic story by Sheckley, if memory serves. This is how Situevina is described there, when as a result of using all sorts of tricky means of counteracting the weapons of opponents, space rangers were forced to fight with swords, all the rest of the weapons simply did not rattle.: =) It seems to be coming to that.
    1. grandson of Perun
      grandson of Perun 6 May 2016 11: 17
      +4
      Quote: guzik007
      I have long read a fantastic story by Sheckley, if memory serves. This is how Situevina is described there, when as a result of using all sorts of cunning means of counteracting the weapons of opponents, space rangers were forced to fight with swords, all the rest of the weapons simply did not rattle.: =)

      You can see right away - Sheckley is a science fiction writer, not a techie.
      Swinging in weightlessness with swords is still a pleasure (and artificial gravity, after all, will also not rattle: =)
      A techie would write about crossbows, they not only work in zero gravity, but also work in a vacuum wink
  17. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 6 May 2016 09: 21
    0
    A powerful addition to the existing air defense and missile defense systems of Russia.
    The publication of partial TTDs will be a cold shower for our "partners".
    However, their intelligence certainly does not sleep ...
  18. lotar
    lotar 6 May 2016 09: 24
    +1
    somehow it’s still strange in Russia there is no electronics and this is a fact, then where did the cool EW troops come from ??????
    Cool EW troops use a different element base for their equipment and use microwave ranges of work. In this direction, as they say, they are ahead of the rest of the planet, and all kinds of intellects and apples before these developments, as before the Moon.
  19. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 May 2016 09: 31
    +6
    Whatever they say, but KRET "gives the country coal" and this is a fact. Dry, Lever, Himalayas, Mercury, etc. ... while we are leaders in the topic of electronic warfare. suggests that so far "the foe has no methods against Kostya Soprykin."
    In this regard, as I once said, the topic of contactless air defense systems based on electronic warfare is interesting.
  20. Wolka
    Wolka 6 May 2016 09: 37
    0
    very informative, but modern flying machines (airplanes, cruise missiles, drones, etc.) or rather their jet, turboprop engines are more than 50% controlled by electronics, so it may be more expedient to create something that would completely "jam" this electronic filling of these birds are still approaching the borders of the Russian Federation ...
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  22. Cananecat
    Cananecat 6 May 2016 09: 48
    +1
    Back in the 80s, I heard about complexes for protecting special-purpose objects by simulating this object in a different frequency range in another place. And you say where the cool EW troops ... evolve from. )))
  23. Yarik76
    Yarik76 6 May 2016 11: 17
    0
    Well - you can congratulate the magicians of the emitters and wish you success in work!
  24. Ru_N
    Ru_N 6 May 2016 12: 34
    0
    Are these technical details of the latest EWs known to everyone? Or is it such a disguise of information disguised as an article? Or is it not the latest electronic warfare?
  25. Mercenary
    Mercenary 6 May 2016 12: 37
    +1
    Glad for our electronic engineers! (True, I did not understand much of the article, but it doesn’t matter) one question torments. For example, an adversary flies over the Baltic (as in April). Our guys turn on electronic warfare and this unholiness fades so that they won’t find a way home? Like that?
  26. Mestny
    Mestny 6 May 2016 13: 45
    -1
    Quote: itr
    Right now I’m sitting in the office and looking in a circle around Sony and Asus computers, a Sitesen calculator, Samsung printers, HP, a tachograph for a car — Chinese crap, Nevelir — also China, a cooler —China, IIIII OOOOO GODS

    Can stop staring at Chinese technology, and get up and work?
    And then it’s written in the article, people work, invent, despite the Chinese printers.
  27. Torins
    Torins 6 May 2016 14: 05
    +3
    Quote: itr
    Right now I'm sitting in the office and looking in a circle of sony and asus computers, a smart calculator, samsung printers, HP, a tachograph for a car - Chinese crap, Nevelir - also China, the th cooler - China, IIII OOOOOO GODS, here it is a native electronic device of RUSSIAN production " PLATO "!!!!!! and I slander our electronics engineers everything for people !!! how did we live without him))))) PS: We waited for Plato for 6 months. In the center they said you will take away a little)))))) It's true !!!!!

    Do you know that an American iPhone is 80% Chinese components? Do you know that any American or EU resident has a computer that consists of 80% of Chinese components?
  28. Idiot
    Idiot 6 May 2016 14: 40
    0
    The most promising missile defense system is the formation of a plasmoid on the BZ flight path. Energy-consuming, but extremely effective.
  29. Torins
    Torins 6 May 2016 15: 02
    0
    Quote: pft, fkb
    The most promising missile defense system is the formation of a plasmoid on the BZ flight path. Energy-consuming, but extremely effective.

    There have not yet been studied the side effects of such weapons)
  30. AAV
    AAV 6 May 2016 16: 05
    +1
    Let's conduct a simple experiment: let's compare the amount of technical information and the range of products, for example, on the website of Texas Instruments http://www.ti.com/ and OJSC SPC ELVIS in Zelenograd http://multicore.ru.

    The conclusion suggests itself that in Russia with an element base it is somehow not very ... Or is it so terribly secret ...
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 6 May 2016 16: 59
      -1
      Quote: AAV
      Let's conduct a simple experiment: let's compare the amount of technical information and the range of products, for example, on the website of Texas Instruments http://www.ti.com/ and OJSC SPC ELVIS in Zelenograd http://multicore.ru.

      The conclusion suggests itself that in Russia with an element base it is somehow not very ... Or is it so terribly secret ...

      See comment N2 (second from the top, this is after the first).
    2. opus
      opus 6 May 2016 17: 27
      +2
      Quote: AAV
      Let's conduct a simple experiment: compare the volumes of technical information and the product range, to

      You are not comparing that, take JSC "PKK Milandr" at least




      you can look at the list of OCD of one Integral (there, by the way, there are already small FPGAs)


      from

      to

      15 pages of OCD, and what date?
  31. Pitot
    Pitot 6 May 2016 17: 24
    0
    Or maybe one Englishman was right - GDP is friends with aliens? And we laid out some technology. They are not offensive. Purely defensive (almost). And the more greyhound the Merikostan headed by the Snatovtsy, the more types of EW we have. Cool. And very good.
  32. Budilnik
    Budilnik 6 May 2016 17: 51
    0
    More EW good and different!
  33. Kenneth
    Kenneth 6 May 2016 17: 52
    0
    I read the article and just felt sorry for the poor Americans
    They probably don’t know that we have a digital beam. It is even cooler than the Zhidai sword.
  34. luxprofi
    luxprofi 6 May 2016 22: 32
    -2
    As much as I would not like to believe the author of the article, but I must admit honestly, this cannot be trusted. Our army has electronic warfare systems, it's already good. Better they are American, no, not better. 25 years of reforms, drunken screams from the rostrum of the popularly elected, 25 years of "improving" the investment climate, Skolkovo and nano fantasies of an iPhone lover, modernization of the Academy of Sciences, the cycle of Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Chubais like gears in a planetary gear, all this ended with puffing up cheeks. "Russia is getting up from its knees." Our EW, the most EW in the world. Well this is not true! There is no microelectronics. What is the technical process by which our LSIs are produced? It is impossible, after 25 years of non-existence, to step into the future. It is impossible to produce a Mercedes without knowing how to produce at least a Volkswagen. Well, the fact that in general there are some pieces of iron is already good.
  35. RedBaron
    RedBaron 7 May 2016 06: 48
    -1
    Quote: luxprofi
    As much as I would not like to believe the author of the article, but I must admit honestly, this cannot be trusted. Our army has electronic warfare systems, it's already good. Better they are American, no, not better. 25 years of reforms, drunken screams from the rostrum of the popularly elected, 25 years of "improving" the investment climate, Skolkovo and nano fantasies of an iPhone lover, modernization of the Academy of Sciences, the cycle of Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Chubais like gears in a planetary gear, all this ended with puffing up cheeks. "Russia is getting up from its knees." Our EW, the most EW in the world. Well this is not true! There is no microelectronics. What is the technical process by which our LSIs are produced? It is impossible, after 25 years of non-existence, to step into the future. It is impossible to produce a Mercedes without knowing how to produce at least a Volkswagen. Well, the fact that in general there are some pieces of iron is already good.

    Well, for Volkswagen you are wrong, as this concern includes brands such as Bugatti and Porsche;)
    Everything else is too impotent laughing
  36. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 7 May 2016 08: 17
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    Let's wait for the conversion .. When the defense order decreases, enterprises will have to get out. Then advanced military developments will trample on the masses.
  37. jann
    jann 7 May 2016 12: 06
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    What are you speaking about?! We have long and firmly settled behind everyone both in electronics and elsewhere! Take off your pink glasses! We can make a couple of prototypes, but we can’t put it into mass production even though you crack! But what they’ve mastered well is to rub glasses, which they’ve successfully and recently been busy with. Well, countless thefts and cut! Here we are precisely and with a margin ahead of the rest!
  38. Olegi1
    Olegi1 7 May 2016 14: 49
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    Quote: opus
    Quote: pft, fkb
    A commonplace microwave was invented in the USSR in 1940. Not ready to make a link now, but it's true.


    1. Not commonplace.
    2.This is not "true" (in 1940 ..) wink Truth- in 1941
    From the archive of the newspaper "Trud" June 13, 1941

    Then .... on June 22, the Second World War began. There was no time for "microwaves"


    and Percy Spencer received a patent for a microwave in 1946 year.
    The world's first microwave oven “Radarange” was released in 1947 by Raytheon and was not intended for cooking, but for quick defrosting of products and was used exclusively by the military (in soldiers' canteens and canteens of military hospitals). Its height was approximately equal to human growth, weight 340 kg, power - 3 kW, which is approximately two times more than the power of a modern household microwave oven. In 1949, their mass production began. This stove cost about $ 3000

    In 1949 we had no time for microwave ovens (there was nothing to eat, let alone "warm up"

    as well as microwave ovens were in the USSR

    ZIL model, Mriya MV model, Electronics, Dneprjanka-1 and Dneprjanka-2 models and SP-01 Electronics, SP-10 Electronics, SP-18 Electronics, SP-23 Electronics, SP Electronics -23, Electronics SP-25, Electronics SP-27, Temp, Pluto, Volzhanka, Rado-Gourmet, Fairy, Take care


    Nya, Yukon, Lena, Mila, Mila-2, Yuzhpolymetal ..

    Microwave Oven Electronics SP-27, VNIITE, 1989.

    good

    in 1989 the stove "Electronics" SP-18 cost 350 p....

    The average salary in the USSR was at that time 233 rubles.



    Electronics SP-18 was assembled from us from Samsung parts. I had two of these, they worked for a long time.
    1. Stabilization
      Stabilization 8 May 2016 17: 38
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      I still use a similar stove, not a lot different model only, it seems older.)) Plow be healthy
    2. In100gram
      In100gram 11 May 2016 17: 33
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      And I ate such cockroaches in the town. All the wiring tightly. Semipalatinsk region. She's Big ...