With holes faster and quieter

The Comp Bullet is an original bullet with very small holes, which can be fired much faster, quieter and with the least impact. Bullets since the invention of the gunshot weapons constantly modified, getting better. And it seems that today they are the most advanced. However, everything in the world is changing. Here and Comp Bullet - the original and cutting-edge solution offered by modern technology.

Comp bullets have a rather unusual design: in its bottom there is a blind hole that connects with the smallest wall holes. During deflagration (burning of gunpowder during an explosion) there is usually a huge pressure from a large amount of gases, which put pressure on the bottom of the bullets, pushing them. At the same time they overcome the friction of the rifling of the barrel, and then with a deafening clap fly out of the barrel immediately behind the bullet.

And when fired with Comp bullets, friction is reduced due to the passage of gases through wall holes. As a result, the initial speed of the bullet greatly increases. Comp bullet wall holes are made so precisely that, according to the developers, they are a kind of muzzle brake, which reduces the recoil of the weapon. Because of this Comp bullets can be very accurate and very fast to shoot.

Made of hard copper alloys on high-precision CNC machines, Comp bullets are lightweight and quite expensive. Therefore, they are unlikely to be widely used, for example, in military weapons, but for law enforcement agencies and in practical shooting new bullets can be quite interesting and in demand.

Comments

[vadimus]

For specialists, it will probably be interesting

[snek]

Very interesting - in fact, the first attempt to somehow radically change the bullet in almost a hundred years.

[APASUS]

Actually ((((((snek Yesterday, 09:50)))) so to say stupid !!
The whole history of mankind is associated with the improvement of the bullet. And in short, it went all the way, from just a ball to a bullet with a displaced center of gravity !!!
Look at least at Blondo !!!

[trojan768]

What does not come up with a person to kill another person ... Offset designers ...

[Swag]

The dead end option, even for special forces, is expensive, not rational, and the fawn is immediately clear whose shot.

[NovoSibirets]

Yes, no that pale, you can always say that the setup. Competitors specifically used our bullet to blame us.
But I think snipers are interesting, the bullet speed is higher - flatness is better. The sniper caliber, as a rule, is larger, so the bullet's penetrative effect will be sufficient. I think the specialists will be interested.

[m.metis2011]

Swag, And as if it’s not clear, perhaps ...?

[NovoSibirets]

The article is interesting, but uninformative. Almost nothing about bullet ballistics, penetration, damaging effect ... It would be interesting to know how much the initial velocity of a bullet increases, the range of a direct flight, penetration decreases, well, it cannot be essentially hollow, and even made of a copper alloy , compete with all-metal ones ... I strongly doubt that the initial speed is much higher than usual ... Although I think the damaging effect is higher - if it enters the body, it should fall apart into fragments and cause more substantial damage than usual ... In short, it’s tasty but few.

[Andrey77]

How much does one such bullet cost? How are all ammo to platoon?

[sancho]

Why did everyone come up against the price? This is 1 rub. a little thing, and in China 1 rub a bunch. They won airplanes for the price of an automaton.
And, actually it would be better to describe ballistics in the article!

[Strabo]

Yes, I would like more information on what this "novelty" is capable of, as far as I know, hunters have drilled holes in lead bullets for a long time. And with a shot from a distance, they could put out a small fire.

[Andrey77]

Hunters have enough of a cartridge with HP (a hole in the hard shell of a bullet nose). Are we talking about rifled weapons?

[Evil Tatar]

T.N. expansive ...
Briefly and clearly...

[Viktor123]

It's one thing to put out a fire. I also read about this. There are 2 more nuances: a sound wave over the ears "sitting by the fire". And the shooter's exposure if he shoots from a prone position: a dust trail on the ground shows the shooter's "lying" position. It’s like marking yourself with a tracer at night. And they poke him with "bad" cartridges!

[Mr. Truth]

The future lies with an arrow-shaped striking element and a metal-plastic sleeve.
And in these, that in the picture of the BK bullet, it’s clear that the horseradish, the bottom has a flat shape, for greater aerodynamicity there should be a cone.

[Odessa]

Fuck me minus. Maybe I'm a shitty physicist ?! Where is the relationship between the holes in the pool and the efficiency is quieter and faster. I doubt about the increase in speed, because because of the holes the speed of the bullet, on the contrary, should decrease according to the laws of physics, since air is penetrating and being in the pool will give a huge error. And about quieter, in doubt? It is possible that because of the holes during the shot they will start to whistle like teapots It would be more interesting if the publication was more overview.

[NovoSibirets]

And for what minus that? For demand in Russia do not hit. Especially I will give)).
I believe that the speed of the bullet increases due to a decrease in the friction force of the bullet walls against the barrel channel. Apparently the powder gases leaving the holes create pressure between the wall of the bullet and the barrel and thereby reduce the pressure of the bullet on the barrel, the pressure is compensated, and the friction force decreases, the speed of the bullet increases I understand.

Quote: Odessa

the speed of a bullet, on the contrary, according to the laws of physics, should decrease, since air penetrating and being in the pool will give a huge error

Your words have a rational grain, not only do several forces act on a bullet,

so the holes will create additional forces. Maybe these forces are simply not critical for accuracy ...
Why and say that the article is interesting, but uninformative.

[snek]

As I understand it, after reading the information on their website, greater speed is achieved through a more efficient use of the energy of powder gases. Among what they boast of is no range.

[NovoSibirets]

Yes, probably. If they "protrude" the initial velocity of the bullet (for the sake of increasing the rate of fire), decrease the recoil, and say nothing about the range, flatness, hence this is a bullet for short-range shooters. In addition, it is soft, the possibility of a ricochet is reduced, which is good for special operations. Here is probably the barrel for which the bullet is))

[Evil Tatar]

That's it ... Not air, but gases.
A hovercraft was also a great idea ...

What to say about silence?
Sound scattering - this is some novelty ...

Directional sound and diffused, not at all the same ...

[Igor]

Quote: Odessa

Fuck me minus. Maybe I'm a shitty physicist ?! Where the relationship between the holes in the pool and efficiency is quieter and faster

In my opinion, if I'm not mistaken on mortar shells, such holes are used, just to increase the firing range.

[b904]

wrong dear holes in the mortar to transfer the ignition to the propellant charge, and it is these holes that whistle when the mine falls

[AlexAl]

Who can explain to me how the moisture tightness of the powder is ensured? Or do you need to carry a climatic chamber with you to these ammunition?

[Nick]

AlexAl.
Along the way, the holes in the pool are located inside the cartridge case and are protected from moisture, and in order to reduce noise, it is most likely possible due to the fact that the gases begin to exit the barrel not sharply, immediately after the bullet exits, but as the bullet exits barrel when the rear of the bullet is still in the channel. I think something like this.

[snek]

Interested in the question and found the manufacturer’s website. Taken from there:
The principles on which it is based
How do the gases behave during deflagration? They push in all directions and a limited quantity passes quickly beyond the bullet, making it starting its movement. The case is still stopped, sticked to the walls of the cartridge chamber and will begin to move back with the slide, only when we don't have pressure. When the superior part of Comp Bullet will be beyond the muzzle, it will discharge, through the advanced vents, an important amount of gas, creating a muzzle brake effect perfectly symmetrical, thanks to the extremely precise vents works, done by numerical control. At the same time, according to the holes inclination kind, it can create a "rocket" effect generating the opposite of the recoil energy force. As a consequence, the effect into the hand will be less violent in order to give a greater control for faster shoot. Regarding the compensated weapons or those equipped of hybrid type holes, this system anticipates the compensation work, releasing, towards the direction of the rooms, the gas jets leaking from the superior part of the bullet, before that the following one passes through the barrel equipped with hybrid holes or compensated. It deals with a bullet which is made inside of the brake muzzle properties.

(my translation, with abbreviations - for laziness):
On what principles does it work.
How do gases behave when ignited? (the first sentence describes the operation of a conventional bullet, I am not translating it). When the front of the Comp bullet extends outside the barrel, the powder gases will be expelled through its front holes, creating a completely symmetrical muzzle brake effect, thanks to the very precise positioning of the holes made with digital control. At the same time, due to the inclination (angle of inclination) of the holes, a "rocket" effect is created, the energy of which is directed in the direction opposite to the recoil energy. As a result, the forces acting on the hand will be less, which allows you to aim more accurately and shoot faster. (further they are already considering "hybrid type holes").

It turns out that these are rather cartridges not for sniper rifles, but for pistols and submachine guns, which confirms the "lineup": 4 pistol bullets and only one rifle.

Here, by the way, the site itself, if anyone is interested: http: //www.compbullet.com/prodottieng.html

[Igor]

Quote: NovoSibirets

The article is interesting, but uninformative. Almost nothing about bullet ballistics, penetration, damaging effect ... It would be interesting to know how much the initial velocity of a bullet increases, the range of a direct flight, penetration decreases, well, it cannot be essentially hollow, and even made of a copper alloy , compete with all-metal ones ... I strongly doubt that the initial speed is much higher than usual ... Although I think the damaging effect is higher - if it enters the body, it should fall apart into fragments and cause more substantial damage than usual ... In short, it’s tasty but few.

Yes, Pindos have a lot of work on this topic, they still have sleeveless cartridges.

[snek]

The manufacturer is an Italian office

[Evil Tatar]

Quote: Odessa

Fuck me minus

Interesting offer...
I want to note that a woman with a displaced center of gravity invented a woman ...
Her (bullets) actions on the meat of a soldier, although we know by hearsay, we know ...

What else can a sweet lady, a dark night, dream of in a "cold" bed?

Everything for YOU guys ... Use ...

[Viktor123]

Just below, Novo Sibir has a picture with the characteristics of the wound channels of bullets of calibers 5, 45 mm and 5,56 mm. It all depends on the weight of the bullet, the weight of the powder charge and the pitch of the rifling of the barrel. Bullets fly at the limit of speed and rotation. And when hit in an obstacle (body), depending on the conditions, they begin to change the trajectory and collapse. only 5,45 is destroyed by about 30%, and 5,56 - about 70%. The destruction of a bullet also depends on the fact that in front of the bullet there is only meat or meat and bones.

[marauder]

The bullet is full of holes.

You taught physics. Speed ​​is greater and returns are less. How much energy a bullet will receive, just as much will a rifle get.

The friction costs are so insignificant that they just can not be taken into account.
the effect of increasing speed can only be due to the fact that the bullet has become lighter. Such bullets have already been made. instead of lead, aluminum was used in the core. They refused because the bullet had poor ballistics.

And even if it is very simple to explain. each barrel, more precisely, barrel cutting is designed for a certain bullet speed. if the speed is less or more, the bullet will not fly correctly. will somersault.

In general, there are many kulibs on earth, every day they invent a wheel.

[NovoSibirets]

Speak a bicycle? Oh well...
Right now in Russia there is a lot of talk about the need to abandon AK. But how many people know that AK with a 5,56 NATO bullet shows completely different numbers! Both accuracy and accuracy are increased!
Our engineers need to develop new ammunition. To improve the quality. Conduct surveys. Drill, saw, cut, bite! Yes, even steal ideas. But raise!
So, a bicycle is not a bicycle, but you need to look ...

Here, by the way, is an instructive link about the damaging effect of bullets of various calibers. If interesting.

http://ohrana.ru/usefull/articles/1476/

[marauder]

Quote: NovoSibirets

But how many people know that AK with a 5,56 NATO bullet shows completely different numbers!

I talked with the military who is responsible for the supply.
He says that now the army comes under the NATO 5.56h45.
these are models AK 101, 102, 108
The characteristics are slightly better than those of our "five"

Like it or not, the Pindos made a good cartridge. By the way, this cartridge is very popular among Russian hunters.
In which case, both sides of the conflict will have the same caliber. Cool

[NovoSibirets]

Quote: Maroder

In which case, both sides of the conflict will have the same caliber. Cool winked

I am for! )) Especially in the context of the link I gave you. I also want my bullet to “behave” as viciously in the enemy as it does in me, God forbid!

5,45

5,56

[Mr. Truth]

This is from the old bullet, it was used until the 80s, then the M-855 went broke into two parts in a wound. and now the amers are already on the M-855a1 which passes a hole punch with a hole punch.

[NovoSibirets]

Follow the link above. Everything is there. The striking effect of both ammunition is almost identical. They both break in half!

In the 80s, the 5,56 cartridge was modified and received a heavier and longer bullet with increased armor-piercing under the designation M855. In Europe, this cartridge is known as SS109 and has a higher speed of rotation of the bullet in flight, which according to the statement of the developer (company FN) stabilizes the bullet, but such a statement is not proved by practice. Ammunition is not very different in its striking effect from the previous cartridge, you can even say that they are almost identical to the American M193,

[NovoSibirets]

By the way, there is an opinion that a new ammunition is coming! Something close to 6,5! Golden mean.

[Odessa]

Maybe it is coming if it doesn’t get stuck on the road as always. This is a quote from the publication. At the same time, they overcome the friction of the rifling of the trunk, and then with a deafening clap fly out of the barrel immediately behind the bullet. This again, two in one, stun acoustics and neutralize, dumb bullet ...

[marauder]

Quote: NovoSibirets

By the way, there is an opinion that a new ammunition is coming! Something close to 6,5! Golden mean

They refused. Type a lot of things have to be redone.
Although the Japanese use this caliber. Very satisfied.

[NovoSibirets]

Quote: Maroder

Refused.

No wonder! It’s much more important to save money than to save a fighter! ((

[Zynaps]

Quote: Maroder

They refused. Type a lot of things have to be redone.

who refused it? only the appearance of the "grendel" ammunition is in question. and Remington is already in full swing preparing NATO gunsmiths for its 6.8x43.

nothing special needs to be redone there. everything is taken into account by a powerful hurricane. development of modular weapons mastered soon about 30 years. The new Czech submachine gun CZ 805 Bren A1 and A2 already have interchangeable barrels for the new ammunition.

Belgian FN SCAR - similarly. others-others, too, are tightened.

vooot. and ours (perhaps) will be better able to master the "grendel" - it was created on the basis of 7.62x39R and will be better in a number of parameters than Remington's.

or squeeze everything out of domestic 7.62 and 5.45 - their potential has not yet been exhausted. but this requires a little - staff, money, responsibility and skill, different from the passion for cutting with a rollback.

[NovoSibirets]

Is there a reference? To inquire.

[Mr. Truth]

Remington’s external ballistics are no better than 5,56’s, therefore there will be no breakthroughs.

[Mr. Truth]

They do not use NATO calibers, and they refused the famous arisaki in favor of thirty.

[Viktor123]

The Japanese used the 6,5mm caliber in the Arisaka rifles. The same caliber was used by our Russian gunsmith, Lieutenant General Fedorov, when he created an automatic rifle and the world's first automatic rifle (1916). And due to the fact that there was no line in Russia at that time for the production of 6,5 mm cartridges, he used Japanese cartridges in his machine gun.

[dred]

Interesting development. What's next?

[Zynaps]

Quote: Maroder

Like it or not, the Pindos made a good cartridge. By the way, this cartridge is very popular among Russian hunters.

are mistaken. NATO 5.56 is practically useless for hunting. in the forest from him a terrifying rebound. among hunters, NATO 7.62 is more popular. although it has a drawback - excess power. It is not much different from a rifle. the worldwide popularity of SKS as a hunting rifle is determined not only by the cheapness and combat qualities of a domestic rifle, but also by the balance of a successful ammunition 7.62.

and in general, Afghanistan has long shown the shortcomings of a low-pulse cartridge in a war in the mountains. on combat soldiers preferred to take the good old AKM / AKMS. in Chechnya, the same situation. 5.45 and 5.56 possess the soldier’s insufficient striking ability in modern defense, and even the effective range of destruction no further than 400 m distance.

[Tyumen]

Bullets with a * nose * and no holes, in my opinion, are French high-speed THVs.

[Zynaps]

Quote: NovoSibirets

Is there a reference? To inquire.

Popenker, for example: http://world.guns.ru/assault/chex/cz-05-r.html

there he also reads about the Grendel and Rem 6.8x43 in the section on ammunition.

[NovoSibirets]

Thanks.

[Mr. Truth]

Here about the cartridges dispersed, I think that the hypothetical 6,5x45 as a single one can be suitable for replacing both machine gun cartridges and machine-gun rifles.

[Viktor123]

In the late 80s, the replacement of SVD - SVK 6x49mm caliber was ready for production. But the 90s came ... And from this rifle an ordinary sniper confidently hit targets at a distance of 1 km.

[nikolai.mar]

We both killed such, and we will behave ... Ways are more sophisticated)))

[zmey]

Of the 8 bullets, only two are similar to automatic (rifle) made of solid copper alloys on high-precision machines !!!!
This is another scam for money and spraying attention to stupid ideas !!!
Copper and its alloys are quite soft, where the core of these holes is in conventional bullets !!!
what penetration can we talk about ??? only about the stopping action of large-caliber pistol bullets.
For an experiment, try drilling a hole in the feces pool. 5,45 or 5,56?
how much will one such bullet cost ???
the combat value of such a bullet in feces. 5.45-5.56 is close to ZERO !!! due to what mass will the barrier be pierced ???

[Glenn witcher]

Something I remembered the bike about Sokolov's bullet-hole.

[Honory]

An interesting little thing. But not applicable. Nobody canceled the laws of the economy. As I understand it, the Americans again excelled.

[ivan1974]

smart solution