Submachine gun for retro cartridge. OZ-39

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Last two decades in stories Domestic small arms can rightfully be called the second era of submachine guns (the first was in World War II). Moreover, in this second epoch, many more samples of automatic weapons under the pistol cartridge than in the first.

The OZ-39 submachine gun developed in the Tula TsKIB SOO serves as a peculiar link between both “eras”. Work on the new weapons began in the year 1998. What is in it from the "first era"? Cartridge. The fact is that at that time a considerable number of 7,62x25 TT ammunition cartridges were still stored in the army warehouses, which were used for PCA-41, PPS-43, TT and other domestic weapons of the time of Interbellum and the Great Patriotic War. In the middle of 90, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, taking into account the current criminal situation, was actively working on the issue of weapons of special forces. They needed automatic weapons, and the existing AKS-74U were to some extent dangerous for use in urban environments because of the high propensity of the bullet cartridge 5,45x39 mm to bounce. It was then that they remembered the good old 7,62x25 TT. And not only they remembered, but sometimes they even started offering to adopt it again together with some machine gun from the times of the Second World War: they were already outdated for military use, but for the policeman, as it seemed, they were still suitable. It cannot be said that such actions would make sense: the bullet of the TT cartridge has less stopping effect than that of the PM or Luger, although it retains sufficient energy at much greater distances.



Submachine gun for retro cartridge. OZ-39


Yes, PPS or PPD, for all its merits, were no longer suitable for operation in modern conditions. For this reason, in the Tula TsKIB SOO in 1998, on an initiative basis, the creation of an OTs-39 submachine gun chambered for TT. Works led designer V.V. Zhlobin. It was assumed that the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense would be interested in the new submachine gun. In addition, the designers offered to use the OC-39 and as a training weapon. In the latter case, novice shooters would not only learn to handle weapons, but also rationally spend 7,62x25 mm TT cartridges accumulated in warehouses.

Externally, the OTs-39 turned out to be the most common representative of its class: a stamped metal receiver, a plastic pistol grip and forearm, as well as a magazine receiver located directly in front of the trigger guard. Automation also does not stand out against the background of other domestic submachine guns and is based on a free gate. Handle loading displayed on the left side of the weapon and folded up. The trigger mechanism is made according to the Kurk scheme, which, according to the manufacturer, significantly improves the accuracy of firing single. In addition to the single mode USM allows you to fire bursts. Mode selection is carried out using the three-position flags of the fuse-translator of fire, located on both sides of the receiver above the fire control handle, just below the thumb arrow. In addition to the layout of USM greater accuracy of fire is provided by a special muzzle. Firstly, it has a relatively large mass, and secondly, the release of powder gases occurs in both directions sideways and upwards, which ultimately reduces the toss of the barrel when fired.

Weapon ammunition is made from a detachable box "horn" on 20, 30 or 40 cartridges arranged in two rows. It should be noted that usually double-row magazines for pistol cartridges are made straight box-shaped, but Tula engineers came to the conclusion that the sector-type magazine turns out to be more reliable in some situations. Approximately the same time they decided at Heckler-Koch when developing MP5.

Special tricks in terms of "body kit" Tula designers have not provided. OTs-39 has a regular metal butt folded to the right (in this case, the shoulder rest can be used as a "tactical" handle). The aiming devices of the submachine-gun consist of an adjustable front sight, closed by a namushnik, and a diopter sight with adjustment on 100 and 200 meters.



When in the early 2000s, conversations about returning to the 7,62x25 mm cartridge began to gradually subside, Zlobin and his colleagues finalized the OTs-39 to use the 9x19 Luger cartridge, which had much greater prospects. To do this, they changed the design of the store, redesigned the shutter and made some other improvements. In general, the design and principles of its work remained the same. The modification for the 9-mm cartridge was called OTs-39P.

Information about the test results OTs-39 and feedback from potential users is extremely small. However, those crumbs that are available, as well as the fact that this submachine gun has not yet been put into service, allow us to say that OTs-39 is destined to remain another purely showpiece. In addition, in our country many other more successful machine pistols have been developed.
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  1. dred
    +3
    18 December 2011 10: 12
    PP made as if on my knees.
    1. +4
      18 December 2011 11: 25
      Thank you, Cyril, did not hear about such a PP. And the good old 7,62x25 TT, is the oldest Mauser of 7,63 mm caliber, descended from the ancient Borchard of 7,65 mm caliber,
      1. 0
        18 December 2011 13: 09
        And on this machine in general there is little information. Two or three articles, not counting this.
  2. +2
    18 December 2011 11: 32
    TsKIB does not have its own modern production base; under the USSR everyone was together TOZ, Mashzavod, Tskib.
    here on my knees
    1. 0
      18 December 2011 19: 25
      Oh well, how Kalash is tuned, everyone who prevents them from ordering a body kit for their machine, especially since it is not expensive, for a design bureau ...
  3. Alexnov2001
    +3
    18 December 2011 12: 12
    And in the warehouses probably PPS-43 was quite a lot - why reinvent the wheel?
    1. dimmax
      +3
      18 December 2011 12: 47
      Why "lay"? Is lying. And Mosin rifles lie. And the engines are on the siding. Why throw away something that might come in handy?
      1. +3
        18 December 2011 14: 51
        Quote: dimmax
        And the engines are on the siding.


        Do not comfort yourself with hope, steam locomotives were cut, only museum ones remained on the reserve bases of locomotives



        Locomotive stock base in Larbe, Amur Region
        1. 0
          18 December 2011 16: 56
          Is it a steam locomotive of the CO or L series? No? From the century before last, a lot of trash lies in the outskirts of Russia.
        2. dimmax
          +4
          18 December 2011 18: 09
          And no.
          In general, special settling tanks where steam locomotives are stored are scattered throughout the territory of the former USSR. During my trips, I have seen dozens of such bases until now.
          This is done for strategic reasons. Because if the uneven hour of vigorous war begins, then the first thing that gets cut off is electricity. There will also be problems with a solarium. A steam engine, as you know, needs firewood (coal) and water.
          Another question is that steam locomotives, which can be revived without surgery, were probably few. The main trouble is colormet. In the connecting rods were brass bushings, 5 kg each ...
          One locomotive storage base in Shcherbinka, near Moscow. There, of all the steam locomotives, I saw only one of the remaining bushings, which apparently they simply could not get out ...
          1. +2
            18 December 2011 18: 27
            Exhibition steam locomotive. Look at the path in front of him, as well as at the next one. In order for the rail head to be so rusted, they did not go on them for at least six months.
            1. dimmax
              +2
              18 December 2011 18: 37
              Quite possible. I do not take my camera on business trips. In Shcherbinka there are apparently well-preserved ones, but they don’t allow you to climb inside. And I'm not special in steam locomotives.
              And this is a photo from the forum of a lover of steam calls, so do not blame me for taking someone else's. request
              1. +4
                18 December 2011 23: 12
                Quote: dimmax
                In Shcherbinka there are apparently well-preserved


                Specially climbed into Shcherbinka. That's what I found there





                If this is not bad, then what is bad I do not know. You don’t get angry if that, I just saw these bases in the 70s, there was already a full ass there
            2. +1
              18 December 2011 23: 07
              Quote: Andrey77
              Exhibition steam locomotive.


              That's for sure. I was at such a base in the late 70s, the windows were clogged with plywood, there was no talk of paint, part of the spotlight was partially shot
          2. mega_jeka
            -1
            18 December 2011 22: 27
            Paravoz was not abandoned due to nuclear war. They just seem to drive along a narrow-gauge railway, but ours is not a narrow-gauge railway. And in Europe, a narrow-knee railway. For this and left
            1. puffnutiy
              0
              19 December 2011 02: 21
              On the narrow gauge railway special steam locomotives and wagons ride. Even the museum has narrow gauge railways near Pereslavl. Locomotives traveled along the same rails on which electric trains now go. Everything was correctly written above - this was a strategic reserve in case of war. Like the State Reserve.
          3. Charon
            0
            19 December 2011 10: 45
            I also saw a dozen such sedimentation tanks. But 10 years ago. Now, passing through the same places I no longer see.
            It seems that they are not there not because they did not need steel, but because the last ones who knew how to ride them died. And there is simply no one to re-open. Not menagers from the salons of cellular communications to attract.
            Steam engines in technical universities have not been studied since at least the 80s.
            1. puffnutiy
              +1
              20 December 2011 17: 44
              there are still knowledgeable people, but very few ...
  4. 0
    18 December 2011 13: 10
    some sort of hat. who can take such homemade seriously. a good locksmith will make such a pestle in his garage.
  5. 0
    18 December 2011 16: 12
    even the photo shows our Russian accuracy in manufacturing and attention to detail ... and the vaunted Russian design and ergonomics
  6. 0
    18 December 2011 16: 50
    We took it from the PPP warehouses and turned it into OTs-39 ... The whole change is the cartridge: 7,62x25 by 9x19.
    1. Tyumen
      0
      18 December 2011 19: 36
      Quote: Andrey77
      7,62x25 by 9x19.

      What are you talking about? At the faculty and was 7,62
  7. Farkash
    0
    18 December 2011 17: 17
    The author of the article does not delicately mention PPP, speaking about serviceability:
    And PPSh or PPD, with all its advantages, were no longer suitable for operation in modern conditions. For this reason, in Tula TsKIB SOO in 1998, on an initiative basis, it began the creation of an OTs-39 submachine gun under the TT cartridge.
    although he speaks of him earlier:
    The fact is that at that time a considerable number of cartridges 7,62x25 TT were still stored in army warehouses, which were still used on PPSh-41, PPS-43, and TT
  8. +3
    18 December 2011 18: 24
    Lick it, in the design plan, it turns out something like this:




    And the feeling that he was riveted on his knee by a drunk milling machine with a drinking buddy by an engineer who had drunk to delirium tremens, what is shown at the beginning, is a clone of the Sudeevsky PP in the garage, and not the work of the Central Design Bureau ...
  9. Anatoly
    0
    18 December 2011 22: 09
    I will slightly deviate from the topic of this PP. - Something our "Izhmash" is quiet. It seems that by the end of the year they promised to show a novelty, an alternative to AK. and silence ... and everyone is waiting! fellow
    1. 0
      19 December 2011 00: 29
      Who should be shown. And the public will wait. wink
      1. Anatoly
        0
        19 December 2011 00: 38
        Who needs? Are you hinting at our "Connoisseur of English furniture"? lol
  10. 0
    19 December 2011 09: 10
    ... it certainly looks wretched ... BUT, if anyone remembers how many bulls were allocated for defense in 1998, Gogu (+ the crisis then lupanul) then there is nothing surprising ... And I think the price of the product at the output turned out to be cheap.
    In general, as they wrote above, it was possible to get PPPs from warehouses.
  11. +4
    19 December 2011 11: 13
    Such an impression from your comments that the weapon should be somehow glamorous. For me, combat characteristics, reliability and ease of use are the main thing. And leave pink glamorous pistols for young ladies and gays.
  12. TIPOK
    0
    19 December 2011 23: 13
    I support Forward in this regard.
  13. sergskak
    0
    9 February 2012 15: 02
    Legendary cartridge !!! It’s a pity that it’s not in demand by specialists. There would be a desire, but you can do a lot. Here he would also have an expansive bullet!
  14. goodkit
    0
    12 September 2012 17: 30
    Nothing he is not a clone of the faculty. They are stupidly different, and the same cartridge only used in them, a free shutter (and this is a stupidly large part of the software) and the use of stamping. And the differences are the sea. Let's start with the size, OTs-39 35 cm without butt, compare with the PPS, which is 615 meme long and folded. Weight again. Plus PPP shoots with the shutter open, and this trigger. Plus, as far as I remember, in PPS there was no single fire. In short, they are different. And about ergonomics, cho, I like it. Before right-handed / left-handed people, and under the thumb, when the same golem lever (lever) is riveted on the AK from year to year. The shutter handle is on the normal side, the magazine release lever is cool. Wait, AK custom fans install this for themselves, and they sacredly believe that such a lever under the trigger bracket was invented by the Merikans. Plus ATTENTION! Shutter! Delay! Where are these features in the post-Soviet space you saw in 98m? Well, in general, respect is what we have developed on an initiative basis.
  15. glitch
    0
    11 March 2014 16: 33
    my most respected cartridge is 7.62 / 25, undeservedly forgotten. in 90m, he developed a very similar software for him. it didn’t work then (I wanted to offer it for production), but the ballists thoroughly calculated my scheme, they said it’s quite working. the fact of the matter is that with this cartridge even half of the resource has not been worked out, and if someone has a stopping effect, put an expansive bullet, and without losing range, accuracy, accuracy, an excellent ammunition. and I am sincerely glad that this also comes to someone and I’m very glad that they did such an automatic machine both in terms of ergonomics and production price, it is very excellent. and I completely agree with you. he would still have a removable barrel with a length of 180-240 mm and in general would not be equal.
  16. glitch
    0
    11 March 2014 16: 43
    9mm at distances up to 50 meters, further, it is almost pointless. especially PMovsky. a friend told me, back in the USSR, the convict escaped, put on 3 sweatshirts and from about 50-60 meters an officer from the PMa got 2 times (out of 8 shots), then the convict was detained, powerful bruises and an rib were broken on the body, all the damage. so that at such distances the PM-injury)) but 7.62 / 25 would have pierced right through ... even when you compare these 2 rounds the PM-ovsky looks awkward, and the TT-shny is beautiful, elegant, not bulky, but the strength is felt in it . under it, and a carbine could be made and the TT was with a 2-row clip, with a more comfortable handle and outwardly much more beautiful, for some reason, unfortunately, for some reason did not go, although it was developed ..
  17. glitch
    0
    11 March 2014 17: 14
    Margolin would still be under this cartridge, with a different long barrel and a store more easily ..
  18. Shatea
    0
    30 March 2014 13: 22
    cool barrel))