Flightless offspring "Roscosmos"

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2011 year can be called one of the most unfortunate years for the national astronautics. Four major space catastrophes: February 2011 - Geo-IK-2 geodesic satellite loss, August 2011 - two catastrophes at once - loss of a communication satellite and progress of a cargo ship, and here is another catastrophe - a loss to an orbit (in other words, loss) Phobos-Grunt apparatus. Moreover, the loss of Phobos-Grunt is the most devastating failure of the Russian cosmonautics, since this project began its development from the last century, and a huge amount of various resources were spent on it. The claimed cost of the device itself is not so great in its current scale - about 5 billion rubles. However, in the time that has elapsed since the appearance of the very idea of ​​the apparatus, which was to explore the surface of one of the satellites of Mars, the creation of calculation tables and software components alone cost a very round sum. This is not to mention the salaries and bonuses received by the leaders, designers and workers of the Lavochkin NPO.

And today, with a fairly calm look, the general director and he, in combination, the general designer of that very famous Lavochkin NPO, Viktor Khartov, says that the mission of the Phobos-Grunt apparatus will not be completed in any case. They say that there are trials about “what to do?” And “who is to blame?” Victor Hartov himself is inclined to believe that failure with the spacecraft rests on software flaws. But, they say, there is nothing terrible - everything is insured there.



But didn’t it all matter about insurance, or our Roscosmos has long and finally become not the forefront of domestic science, but a workshop that is focused on solving only monetary issues. Fly - well, do not fly - insurance companies will return the money - that's the whole problem, according to agency representatives.

Even if the problem of "Phobos-Grunt" really lies in program errors, then who prevented Mr. Hartov from checking the correctness of all systems? It seems to be far behind those days when all flights were calculated solely on paper using the abilities of several dozen mathematicians. Or computer systems of NPO im.Lavochkina do not allow to calculate possible extraordinary situations that may arise during the flight of a spacecraft? If so, then why was it necessary at all to take on such an ambitious project. Then Hartov and Roscosmos officials would have forgotten about their own ambitions, and they would have installed their spectrometers and thermo-detectors on the American rover Curiosity, which, by the way, was not only successfully launched, but even sends information signals that, in connection with our space recent failures look really impressive.

Sometimes it seems that people who are appointed to senior positions in Roskosmos and its subsidiaries simply deliberately do everything against the real development of the national cosmonautics. Of course, this judgment is exaggerated, but such a number of failures in a very short time period is difficult to explain.

There is an opinion according to which all the failures of the past few months are connected with the underfunding of the scientific component of the projects. If we take this as a basis, we get the following situation. In research centers about Roscosmos there are people who are forced to work for low wages and without the necessary financial investments in the projects being implemented. However, no one, for some reason, quits and does not even try to say that, they say, sir, give me more money, otherwise our “cans” will not fly. “Underfinanced” designers continue to draw something with blunt pencils on scraps of paper, “underfinanced” workers continue to collect something from improvised means, “underfinanced” programmers reluctantly fill the program codes with their left hand, and “underfinanced” cleaners poorly rub floors in the assembly hall - the dust of the authorities and climbs into the eyes, not letting see all this "underfinancing".

Who prevented the same Mr. Hartov from stating that insufficient funds were allocated for such a large-scale project to be fully implemented. And so it all resembles nothing more than the notorious sabotage or aiding sabotage. And let the terms give some Soviet zamselost, but otherwise the situation in our recent space program is difficult to call. They ate not sabotage, then either experienced bureaucratic “pofigism”, or total incompetence, which is extremely unlikely due to the worldwide fame of the same NGO named after Lavochkin.

It turns out that laxity and hope for insurance have brought our space industry to the point beyond which there is a real vacuum. With such “squandering” of spacecraft, foreign investors will not want to contact us either. It is worth noting that such countries as Germany, Switzerland, China, Sweden, France, Ukraine, Bulgaria, and Poland participated in the Phobos-Grunt program (namely, in terms of filling the apparatus with equipment). Will they want to finance new projects of Roscosmos? If they want, with much less enthusiasm.
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  1. +3
    16 December 2011 07: 27
    I completely agree, gentlemen, like Khartov, have already eaten so much on kickbacks and budget cuts that you can’t put up with it anymore.
    1. Almor
      +1
      16 December 2011 08: 19
      bully ... In every ministry, wherever you look, there is some element of a system of rollback and breaking budget investments ... There will certainly be responsible shit and you need to start with it !!! am
      1. Desert Fox
        +5
        16 December 2011 09: 31
        Gentlemen, I think Comrade Hartov is somewhat undeservedly accused. Maybe he warmed himself up on the kickbacks, but in Russia there have always been two troubles, fools and fools who are trying to indicate which way we should go! fellow Therefore, I believe that in the beginning it is necessary to heal and seal those comrades who are sitting in our cabinet of ministers. I think all the main kickbacks and frauds go there, and all the rest are content with the crumbs that fell from the master's table.
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +6
    16 December 2011 07: 36
    The one who does nothing is not mistaken, but a lot of shit still needs to be removed from Roskosmos.
    1. vadimus
      +1
      16 December 2011 08: 31
      Aha, and all this is gamut for an orbit, far away. Zadolbala bent thieving. It's a shame for the state and for Gagarin and Korolev!
      1. lokdok
        0
        16 December 2011 10: 55
        And what does Gagarin and Korolev have to do with it? That the Queen had no accidents?
        1. svvaulsh
          +4
          16 December 2011 12: 53
          There were accidents, only he created a rocket from scratch, and this rocket then flew for 50 years without accidents. And now this rocket began to fall. This is not a design error, but a system one. And these are two big differences!
  3. mitya
    +3
    16 December 2011 07: 42
    On the count of him !!!!
  4. mitrich
    +8
    16 December 2011 07: 45
    Local failures, especially in such a high-tech sphere as astronautics, occur in many states. The United States also had failures in the reporting year. So it would not be worth the author, with the words of a plumber who came from a rally on Bolotnaya Square, to try to fuck with higher mathematics. One could try to make a semblance of analysis for each accident (in the Internet there is information on these issues). Otherwise, everything from the author is too simple: the money was stolen - "Progress" fell ... Well, the hidden enemies have hurt more. It's old already. Not impressed, sir!
    1. 0
      16 December 2011 08: 47
      And how do you like this letter?
      http://open-letter.ru/letter/26645
      1. 0
        16 December 2011 09: 20
        Is this something ??? http://www.famous-scientists.ru/1097/ if so, it is strange that the doctor of biological sciences writes this
      2. mitrich
        0
        16 December 2011 09: 33
        Varnaga,
        I read it. I was saddened, of course. If Morozov’s revelations are not the spite of the dismissed and, therefore, offended by the leadership of the NGO, the picture is not good. It would be interesting to read the official reaction to this letter, if any.
      3. Desert Fox
        +3
        16 December 2011 10: 03
        I read it. Re-read. The letter is interesting, sad, with notes of narcissism, (narcissism is bright at the end, when the author writes about the Moor winked ) But certainly not everything is so neglected. I think if everything was exactly that way for 100, then our rockets and satellites would explode at the start. All the same, we deduce them.
  5. Anatoly
    +2
    16 December 2011 09: 14
    A devastating article. In Soviet times, comrade Khartov would have been jailed long ago. And here he calmly and with a grin, breeds demagogy about insurance and "proceedings". It is necessary to plant such people for undermining the country's defense capability.
  6. marauder
    +2
    16 December 2011 09: 27
    And you saw how many errors in WIND. Tens of thousands. And what, Bill Geytsa under the shot. The article was written by a friend who is a complete zero in programming.
    Any moron can criticize, for this the presence of the mind is not at all obligatory.
    Nothing, they will fix the errors, they will send the device again. That all at once and like clockwork does not happen.
    1. +2
      16 December 2011 13: 44
      Just dropping Windows is cheaper than dropping a rocket. In critical systems, a slightly different level of responsibility. Therefore, Windows does not control nuclear reactors.
  7. 0
    16 December 2011 10: 16
    Well this year there were much more missile launches than before,% errors and failures are possible, well, and if you think about what didn’t fly (GLONASS, Phobos, Geo-IR-2), and not imported commercial communications satellites, for example, then maybe someone sabotages.
  8. 0
    16 December 2011 10: 45
    You think it’s difficult to make a saboteur out of an engineer?
  9. +3
    16 December 2011 10: 46
    And here is the constructor? Military representatives did not have to disperse!
  10. dred
    -1
    16 December 2011 11: 38
    so sorry that did not fly.
  11. 0
    16 December 2011 14: 05
    On "free funds", which for them is the state budget, you can throw up your hands. And, the Boss, who allocated the money, for such passes must rip these hands out of the ass.

    Quote: General Designer - General Director of the Lavochkin Scientific and Production Association Viktor Khartov on spacecraft of the new generation: "This year we must make a colossal leap ..."

    And an interview from 23.07.2010: Viktor Vladimirovich, you headed the Lavochkin NGO a few months ago. When they made this decision, you obviously had a certain idea about the company. The first months made adjustments to it?
    - Somehow it turns out that workers in the space industry know little about other firms. For example, I worked at the railway company "Information Satellite Systems" and more or less knew the enterprises with which we had direct contacts. That is, those, for example, from whom we ordered something, or they are from us, with whom we conducted joint projects. But about the company named after Semyon Alekseevich Lavochkin, my ideas were rather vague.

    - Obviously, measures have been outlined that will ensure the solution of the challenges? Did you have to change anything already?

    - Of course, there are innovations. What kind? I will return to the question of the industrial approach to working on spacecraft, a lack of which I felt in Khimki. Maybe I didn’t think of such a term in vain, but it seems convenient to me. What are the advantages of this approach? These are very clear schedules, clear planning of each project. Each project should have a manager engaged in managerial activities, so that the process goes on, everything fits together in terms of time, money.
    In addition, the industrial approach is a very strict quality system that must permeate everything. You probably understand that the quality system is not a grandmother-inspector in the workshop, which brought the finished part, she measured it and said: good. This is a complete profanation of the meaning of the quality system. Its essence is the establishment of all processes, starting with the design of the satellite and ending with its operation in orbit. So that all these processes are clear, defined, described, with constant monitoring that all of them are carried out correctly. The consequence of the correct implementation of these processes will be the high quality of the finished product.


    That's it!
  12. Mercuryxp
    0
    16 December 2011 16: 59
    the current situation in the space industry only reflects a general negative trend in modern Russian science and high-precision industry. an example of the state's interest in space can be found on the website of the NGO. Lavochkin (www.laspace.ru) section vacancies and proposed wages. I think that for such a responsible research institute the salary of "Qualified engineers with work experience" should be much higher than 20 rubles
  13. Strabo
    0
    16 December 2011 17: 20
    Victor Khartov, the general director and also concurrently the general designer of that famous NGO Lavochkin, is inclined to believe that the failure with the spacecraft rests on software flaws. PAY ATTENTION the director combines the position of general designer. We must understand that he is also engaged in economic activities i.e. skiing This is where you can warm the handles. And in general, one case is an emergency, this is the loss of the country's budget money. And do not you dear readers suggest the idea of ​​enemies or traitors in NGOs. Or maybe an external impact, but for any sabotage, external or internal. Why doesn’t this bother anyone? here is the question.
  14. 0
    16 December 2011 17: 29
    This is all sad. Civil aircraft construction has already been ditched here (if you figure it out, for the sake of whom? Boeing and others, someone warmed up well on this). There was space, with it the "guys" are more difficult, a lot of military. But if you remember the purchase of French Mistrals for our Navy, then, too, "a question to be solved". Unfortunately.
  15. swetlOFF
    0
    16 December 2011 17: 51
    Not a fan of exaggeration, but if you look more closely, we will find a similar picture ABSOLUTELY in all industries, even in those that are strategic. And this situation is not at all happy, especially against the background of high-sounding statements about the development of "NANOTECHNOLOGIES", it is time to do something and change dramatically.

    The lyrics on the topic FOBOS-SOIL - http://www.npo-lavochkina.ru/index.php/lirika-fobos-grunt
  16. Novik
    +1
    16 December 2011 19: 18
    The Phobos accident is a systemic crisis of our cosmonautics. Pay attention, the last time a successful mission to another planet was the flight of the VEGA-1, VEGA-2 vehicles in 1986. Further, the flight of two Phobos models of 1988 ends in failure, although one of the vehicles reached the vicinity of the Red Planet and managed to transmit a small stream of scientific information. Then, in 1994, the Mars spacecraft was unable to launch the Proton launch vehicle into orbit and it fell in South America, somewhere in the Andes. I mean this is not an intrigue aliens as you might think smile, this is a very complex multilevel task. And since the team of our designers could not cope with it after the triumph of 1986, then what do we want from the current engineers? What can we expect from the current designers, if earlier we could send entire flotillas of probes with an interval of 2-4 years, accumulating invaluable experience. exactly a quarter of a century since our last successful, ambitious, recognized by all success. Is it a lot or a little, and you take as a starting point, for example, 1961, and then it will become completely sad. During these 25 years, we have been slipping from our positions slowly at first, and then in the era of the 90s, they completely abandoned planetary exploration until better times. Old experienced people left, and new young specialists, at least they could learn to get in the direction of Mars or the Moon, and not to transport soil from other celestial bodies, but as at the dawn of development - tough fall on these bodies. And money has nothing to do with it - you can't buy experience, here you need to either painstakingly learn from others (there are no others, and those are far away), or learn by trial and error itself. So, this whole project is for me, from the very beginning it resembled a PR action. We set a deliberately impossible task, relying on the glorious past, maybe it will fly. Or maybe they wanted to coincide with the elections, see what our achievements are. No, well, there are certainly achievements in this area, for example, we are the best in the world carried out a SIMULATION of flight and landing on Mars. But with a real flight, such a misfortune that we are waiting for home (according to NORAD, the de-orbit of "Phobos" is scheduled for January 9). In general, if we continue to launch stations with an interval of 15 years, then Russia has nothing to do in deep space, the result will be the same.
  17. 0
    22 December 2014 23: 14
    Only Khartov himself is certainly not to blame for anything. Already everything is on him. These grabbers have already been shaken.