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Thunder of freedom

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In the Cuban army, the equipment does not age


“In the blue Antilles Sea, the Caribbean is also called him, izlestan evil ramparts, decorated with openwork foam, rocks Cuba on the map: a green long lizard with eyes like wet stones,” the poet Nicolas Guillen painted the Island of Freedom. And he warned Washington: “But you, a seaman standing on a strong guard by the sea, remember the high copies of the sparkling, the language of the tongues of fire and the lizard that you woke up to pull the claws out of the map!” Lizard finally woke up at the very beginning of 1959, and the Soviet Union helped her to find sharp claws.

Cuba became the military outpost of the USSR in the very underbelly of the United States, which experienced in 1962 a tremendous shock from Russian nuclear warheads, whose launch positions - even for a short time - settled among the palm forests of the rebellious island.

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Equipped, as they say, to the teeth of the Soviet weapons, The revolutionary armed forces (PBC) of Cuba quickly became the strongest in Latin America. Already by 1961, Castro’s army far surpassed all other Central and South American states combined in armored power, receiving 150 “thirty-four”, 41 heavy IS-2 and several dozen self-propelled guns SU-100. They played a role in 1961 in the defeat of the "Guanos" landing in the Bay of Pigs. They say that Fidel himself with a well-aimed shot from the SU-100 hit one of the ships equipped with the CIA, and the T-34-85 did not allow the ships of the US Navy to evacuate those who tried to flee the island of counter-revolutionaries from the island. Five lungs looked like nonsense against this background tanks M41 "Walker Bulldog", with which the Yankees supplied those same "gusanos." And the ousted Batista four years earlier had been delivered as many as seven medium Shermans, who ultimately fell into the hands of the rebels (against whom they were intended). One of those Shermans with the triumphant Fidel entering Havana can be seen on the Cuban bill in one peso.

In the future, the equipment of the Cuban army with Soviet and partially East European military equipment only increased. The Republic has acquired a strong military aviation and “biting” the military fleet with ship-to-ship missiles (the first in Latin America). The Soviet units withdrawn from Cuba at the end of the Caribbean Crisis left even exotic equipment such as the FKR-1 ground-to-ground class Fidel, taking only nuclear warheads to them. Cubans loved to carry these gifts in parades.

By the middle of the 80, more than 200-thousand RVS had over 600 tanks (according to some data, up to 900) - from light PT-76 to medium T-62, hundreds of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, powerful caliber artillery to 152 mm inclusive, tactical and anti-aircraft missile systems, near 170 fighter jets (MiG-17, MiG-19, MiG-21, MiG-23), three diesel submarines of the 641 project, a pair (later three) specially designed in Zelenodolsk for export of the new 1159T project guard and three ten 183P, 205 and 205U missile boats. Cuban troops demonstrated excellent training in Angola and Ethiopia, performing combat missions in the interests of Pax Sovietica. In short, it was still that thorn, stuck in the ass Pax Americana and much more durable than the other allies of the Warsaw Pact (the question of what turned the content of Pax Sovietica, leave this article).

Along the way, Havana solved her own problems by force. For example, in 1977, the Dominicans did not cobble too long with the release of the detainee from a Cuban civilian ship: the afterburning flight of a dozen MiG-21 stunned their capital, Santo Domingo, quickly brought the banana republic leadership to their senses.

Kulibiny reluctantly


The collapse of the USSR was especially painful for the air and naval forces of Cuba. The shortage of spare parts, components and just modern models of military equipment was keenly felt by the ground forces.

Thunder of freedomBut the Cubans do not give up. Today, Freedom Island is not only a panopticon of the American autoclassic, but also a unique workshop of military equipment, also "vintage". It's amazing how Cubans manage to cope with the weight culture in the prepared products, which are not at all intended for what the local Kulibins do with them. The explanation is one: the equipment is Soviet, strong.

In the measures on "re-equipment" a bet is placed on the extension of the service life of elements of Soviet military equipment that are suitable for use, and the machines themselves have become unusable. This, for example, is about the combat modules of the BMP-1 (the tower with the 73-mm Thunder instrument and the Malyutka ATGM launcher) and the 100-mm D-10T tank guns, taken from the T-54 and T-55 tank guns . "Top" BMP-1 without any alteration is installed on the chassis of wheeled armored personnel carriers BTR-60PB. In the second case, lightweight towers of local design with an 100-mm tank gun are mounted on the same base. By the way, this wheeled infantry fighting vehicle practically repeated the Soviet experimental BMP GAZ-50, created in 1971 on the same chassis and with the same weaponry. With the only difference that the “Malyutka” anti-tank missile system used by Cubans is not the original Soviet system, but, apparently, the Chinese modification HJ-73C or HJ-73D with semi-automatic guidance and tandem warhead.

On some Cuban BTR-60PB, the roof was completely cut off, and in the troop compartment, an 23-mm paired anti-aircraft gun ZU-23-2 was installed. Similarly, the old BTR-152 open type armored personnel carriers are used (this is no longer Cuban know-how, but rather a self-made 152 modification that is quite common in the countries of Asia and Africa).

This kind of metamorphosis Soviet military equipment began to undergo in Cuba for a long time - the picture of Fidel Castro in the prime of life on the background of the BTR-60P, converted to self-propelled gun with the Czechoslovak 30-mm paired automatic anti-aircraft gun M53 / 59, is known. On the part of the BTR-60PB mounted rotating Spark 37-mm automatic anti-aircraft guns.

T-34-85 also adapts to the self-propelled installation of various types. These are the ACS with the 100-mm anti-aircraft gun KS-19 on a rotating platform and two versions of the 122-mm self-propelled howitzer based on the D-30A. In one case, the gun was installed in a tank tower with armor cut off in front and on top, in the other - the tower was removed, and the gun was placed in an open wheelhouse like German self-propelled guns of the Second World War period, created, in particular, on the basis of captured French tanks (something like D -30 and "thirty-three" at one time the Syrians were making). Part of the Cuban T-34-85 converted into 130-mm self-propelled guns with openly installed M-46. There is also an anti-aircraft version of the thirty-three with the 57-mm C-68 pairing from the Soviet ZSU-57-2.

Two local modifications of the BMP-1 were observed: the tank destroyer (a kind of Cuban Ferdinand) with the X-NUMX-mm tank gun D-100T and a self-propelled howitzer with the D-10A, also installed in the rear of the hull, but in an open-top armor jacket. The improvised self-propelled guns of the Soviet Union complemented a decent, by Latin American standards, park of Soviet-made self-propelled howitzers (30 40-mm “Gvozdik” and 122-mm “Acacias”).

But that's not all. Cubans liked the KrAZ-255B army trucks. On their chassis created a whole family of self-propelled guns "Jupiter". AT stories there are similar examples: for example, in the 30-ies the 76-mm SU-12 was adopted on the armament of the Red Army on the chassis of the three-axle GAZ-AAA.

On the "Jupiter" of the first generation installed 130-mm gun M-46 and 122-mm howitzer D-30A. In the second generation, the chassis itself underwent significant alteration - it was made two-cabin in the manner of the MAZ-543. On the platforms of such “Jupiter”, both the M-46 and the second Soviet 122-mm A-19 cannon of the 1931 / 1937 model, which had a self-propelled variant reasonably equipped by the Cubans with a two-chamber muzzle brake following the D-30 model, are installed.

Another local development is the 120-mm mortar based on the BRDM-2. By the way, a very reasonable decision. From the body of the truck so especially you do not shoot, but from a specially prepared BRDM-2 just right.

By increasing the maneuverability of artillery in such an original way, the Cubans did not forget about the anti-aircraft missile systems of the target air defense. They turned the semi-stationary C-75 and C-125 into self-propelled ones by placing missile launchers on the T-55 platform. For the C-125 self-propelled variant, a new transport-charging vehicle based on PT-76 was created. Here, it should be noted, Cubans are not first movers. The Chinese C-75 self-propelled tracked versions (HQ-2B on special chassis), C-125 - Poles (Newa SC complex based on T-55, very similar to Cuban) created their own versions, and on the car platform they are found in North Korea (for example, C 125 on KrAZ-255B).

Helicopter carrier from a trawler


The basis of the reactive artillery are the Soviet BM-21 "Grad", BM-14 and BM-24. But there are also samples. Under the name “Kanimar-57” there is a former self-propelled Strela-1 anti-aircraft missile system launcher (based on the BRDM-2), in which, instead of the transport-launch containers of the SAM, a pair of 32-charging aviation blocks UB-32 with 57- is suspended mm unguided rockets C-5. Such use of “ereses” is quite widespread in various kinds of conflicts, including in the territory of the former USSR.

The inimitable development of the Cuba RVS is the MLRS, which is a combination of a car chassis and an anti-submarine 212-mm 12-barrel rocket-propelled bombing unit Sberch-6000. This miracle of technology, apparently, turned out after the cancellation of three ships of the project 2T, each of which had two RBU-1159. So we can assume: RVS have a battery of six such MLRSs, even though there was a reserve of RSL-6000 depth-attack jet bombs, with which the Cubans are ready to ohazhivat and land enemy.

The exclusion from the fleet, apparently, due to the technical condition of all the 1159T frigates (one of them was sold after writing off to some private company that flooded it at the Cayman Islands for the fun of diving) deprived the Cuban Navy of more or less large surface ships. But even here, ingenious islanders carried out "import substitution" by arming the 3200-ton large fishing trawler "Rio Damuji" of the Spanish-built 1972 of the year. There are two single-container PKR P-20 launchers (export version of the P-15U), removed from the outgoing 205U project missile boat, an artillery unit with the 100-mm tank gun D-10T, the ship's 25-mm paired anti-aircraft gun 2XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. machine gun DShK. On top of that, there is a helipad on the trawler. Of course, on the one hand, it turned out the devil knows what, and on the other - Cuba demonstrated one of the options for mobilizing the fishing fleet. Subsequently, realizing the futility for such a tank gun ship, the Cubans replaced it with an 3-mm AK-12,7 twin automatic gun mount, removed from the 57M hydrofoil torpedo boat (nine units were delivered to Cuba by the Soviet Union in 725-206).

There was an unexpected use of 533-mm single-tube torpedo tubes OTA-53-206М dismantled from these boats. Cubans installed a torpedo tube on a kind of catamaran from motor boats (at least two such "torpedo boats" are known). And the observant foreigners reported that they had seen a super-small submarine in the port of Havana. Considering Cuba’s ties with the DPRK, which has become more experienced in the construction of such babies, maybe.

Of the nearly two dozen rocket boats of the 205 and 205U projects donated by the USSR in 1972 – 1982, only six are left in the Cuban Navy system. The naval command that was removed from the decommissioned PU-20 missile launches was decided to be placed on trailers, equipped with such Bandera (Flag) translated from Spanish) coastal defenses in addition to the existing Soviet Rubezh self-propelled anti-ship missile systems.

In short, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Cuba are not going to give up their positions in the region. And when the urgent need for further weapon improvisations disappears, God knows.
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  2. yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 10 2016 06: 35
    +9
    What can be added if since childhood:

    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 10 2016 11: 10
      +10
      Quote: yuriy55
      What can be added if since childhood:

      Although for me it’s not childhood or even youth - when I hear "Cuba" - a lump in my throat ... I can't say anything except

      ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
      1. moskowit
        moskowit April 10 2016 16: 55
        +4
        And I remember that there was an interesting film in the early 60s, "The Black Seagull" was called ... And the most popular New Year's costume among girls was the costume of the revolutionary Cuban woman. A black beret, an officer's shirt and satin harem pants ... Looked very nice, dark girls were very good ...
    2. Venceremos
      Venceremos April 10 2016 13: 16
      +8
      Quote: yuriy55
      What can be added if since childhood:




      And earlier performance by Joseph Kobzon

  3. Talgat
    Talgat April 10 2016 06: 42
    +9
    Nice interesting article

    It can also be added that Cuba not only "did not surrender" after the death of the USSR, but also became the "seed" from which a whole Bolivarian Alliance of 9 countries sprouted

    The USSR strove for this - invested funds - but it is surprising that the ideas of freedom and equality did not die - but gave an unexpected shoot after the departure of the Soviet Union

    Without any replenishment from outside, having the example of Cuba, the legendary revolutionaries are freedom fighters and just honest and decent people - like Ortega, Evo Morales or Mukhika and others led the peoples of Central Asia in a quest for independence and a decent life

    A special role was played by Venezuela and Hugo Chavez - who became the unwritten leader of all 9 countries. Their oil and money, Cuban doctors and engineers, mutual assistance - mutual assistance - made all Amer’s sanctions ineffective

    Well, then - you know already - China joined, which in fact "protects" the Bolivarians instead of the USSR (who are essentially the same communists) and recently returned the "prodigal son" - Russia (visits of Putin and the leadership of the Russian Federation to the ALBA countries, flights of strategists, etc. e), Russia, having returned, complements China well in helping ALBA - for example, high-tech weapons - for example, air defense or fighters are better to buy in Russia - since the Chinese still leave much to be desired - and can fail in the X-hour.

    But for example, the same Belarus never turned away from the Bolivarians, since it was in fact the last splinter of the USSR. Old Man has always been friends with Venezuela and Cuba, etc. For the simple reason that he has no oligarchs - and neither they nor "world capital" affect the policy of Belarus

    It is interesting that the Bolivarians (like Iran, by the way) are warm and striving for friendship not only with Russia but with all the fragments of the USSR - these days our NAS visited Liberty Island:

    "... The Cuban press wrote that Castro and Nazarbayev talked in a warm atmosphere, touched upon a variety of topics of international politics. ... As a result of the negotiations, the defense recognized that relations between Kazakhstan and Cuba remain traditionally warm, the two countries need to maintain ties and develop cooperation
  4. Talgat
    Talgat April 10 2016 06: 52
    +6
    Quote from the article:

    "... the question of what the content of Pax Sovietica turned into, we will leave outside the scope of this article ..."

    But I do not agree with this "hairpin"

    Yes, the USSR spent money on helping the allies - but at the same time it pursued and defended its geopolitical interests

    And defended successfully

    The standard of living in the USSR is proof of this. It was very close to the European one - although the USSR did not rob the whole world and did not have the advantages of marine civilization, most of the territory was removed from ports and was in an unfavorable climate

    Liberasts deceived us all - including a lie about the inefficiency of the Soviet economy - about the supposedly unnecessary costs of the army and allies

    So what? Now there is no expense for the allies - no army, the USSR collapsed and lost all its geopolitical influence and position. Loss on all fronts

    And what - do we live better? After the collapse, people began to eat bread milk meat 7 times - 8 times less. (Statistics are given by Sergey Kara Murza - read) Education and medicine were lost. Engineers and teachers, doctors, communists and Komsomol members - turned into beggars, homeless people, prostitutes and bandits. At best in shuttles. Scientific institutes, factories and hospitals closed

    The fact that after 2000 they began to live a little better - this is the price of oil went up - and Putin planted half of the oligarchs returning part of the income to the population. But we’ll not even catch up with the USSR until we change
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 10 2016 07: 29
      +5
      Cuba has a state ideology in tune with the aspirations of the people. Cubans know where they are going, and therefore the country is invincible. hi
      1. Valkokaarti
        Valkokaarti April 10 2016 10: 30
        -11%
        Quote: siberalt
        Cuba has a state ideology

        Which one? The country of extreme sekas-tourism? Or the ideology of issuing Cubans on coupons of skinny chicken once a week and drinking water from a barrel, because there is no tap? And what kind of people in their right mind would like this for themselves?
        Quote: siberalt
        Cubans know where they are going

        Cubans go to the inevitable, to the inevitable EVOLUTIONARY the fall of a closed authoritarian regime.
        Quote: siberalt
        therefore, the country is invincible.

        The country has long been living in the shadow economy: currency prostitution, black smuggling, poaching and illegal smuggling of Cubans into the United States are the main sectors of the country's GDP.
        Watch videos about the cube of Russian tourists, there it is all colorfully shown, the 21st century in the yard !!!!!!!
        1. Victorio
          Victorio April 10 2016 16: 46
          +4
          Quote: Valkokaarti
          Quote: siberalt
          Cuba has a state ideology

          Which one? The country of extreme sekas-tourism? Or the ideology of issuing Cubans on coupons of skinny chicken once a week and drinking water from a barrel, because there is no tap? And what kind of people in their right mind would like this for themselves?
          Quote: siberalt
          Cubans know where they are going

          Cubans go to the inevitable, to the inevitable EVOLUTIONARY the fall of a closed authoritarian regime.
          Quote: siberalt
          therefore, the country is invincible.

          The country has long been living in the shadow economy: currency prostitution, black smuggling, poaching and illegal smuggling of Cubans into the United States are the main sectors of the country's GDP.
          Watch videos about the cube of Russian tourists, there it is all colorfully shown, the 21st century in the yard !!!!!!!

          ===
          name a democratic and independent country of that region / South America that would have better medicine than Cuba
          1. Come on
            Come on April 11 2016 02: 21
            0
            Medicine, yes, is modest, but there is concern for people. I saw the dock once. the film about it was surprised honestly speaking. But the rest is not ice and a gradual transition to a market economy is inevitable, otherwise there will be growing tension within the country. The Cubans have a unique chance, after all, the people are not fragmented, and if the authorities do not stupid and allow private property, then investments and money will flow into the country. Indeed, only on one tourism, thanks to the positive image of Cuba, does the country have a chance to become prosperous. The main thing is that the people have the opportunity to control the processes.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik April 10 2016 07: 54
    +2
    The revolutionary armed forces of Cuba are not going to surrender their positions in the region. And when the urgent need for further weapons improvisations disappears, God knows.... While this is so .. But Castro is not forever .. Who will replace them ...? ..
  6. Blondy
    Blondy April 10 2016 08: 02
    +2
    About ... whether Cuba and much more. In the field of competitiveness and economical development, some guys (and girls), in my opinion, have been asking for something for too long.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 10 2016 14: 11
      -1
      Quote: Blondy
      About ... whether Cuba and much more. In the field of competitiveness and economical development, some guys (and girls), in my opinion, have been asking for something for too long.

      I have the floor of the 18 department, the numbers on 2 weeks fly to Cuba - I’m all reaping their first lips, and you read it — so half operates on info from the USSR
  7. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 April 10 2016 08: 08
    +7
    Involuntarily Kulibins ... But did the Cubans have another choice? Almost all military equipment that was used by the Cuban army was supplied by the Soviet Union and eventually, of course, in the absence of a sufficient number of spare parts, fails, but:
    But the Cubans do not give up. Today, Freedom Island is not only a panopticon of the American autoclassic, but also a unique workshop of military equipment, also "vintage". It's amazing how Cubans manage to cope with the weight culture in the prepared products, which are not at all intended for what the local Kulibins do with them. The explanation is one: the equipment is Soviet, strong.

    They, the Cubans, simply have no other choice: the army must be armed with what is called here and now, especially if we take into account the "peacefulness" of their northern neighbor, from which only a not very wide sea strait separates.
    A classic example of the use of old equipment (by the way, there is a mention of it in the article): this is a 130-mm M-46 cannon on the chassis of the old T-34-85 - I don’t know what the technical and operational characteristics of this type of weapon are, but the fact of saving is respectful equipment and its use in new quality:
    1. Valkokaarti
      Valkokaarti April 10 2016 10: 37
      -9
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      the army must be armed with what is called here and now, especially if we take into account the "peacefulness" of the northern neighbor, from which only a not very wide sea strait separates.

      Do you really think that tractors of the 50s can somehow interfere with the "peace-loving" neighbor, if he suddenly wants to fire missiles at them ????
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      They - the Cubans simply have no other choice.

      Today they have only one way out, to run on inflatable rafts towards their "peaceful" neighbor, which they regularly do.
      Therefore, only the naive would think that in the event of a military conflict in Cuba there will be many who wish to protect the Castro family.
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      but the fact of saving the equipment and using it in a new quality arouses respect:

      It is rather a "shame of God" I must say. Although it's no surprise that they cook broth from skinny chicken 3-5 times, with the same technique.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 10 2016 12: 49
        +7
        Do you really think that tractors of the 50s can somehow interfere with the "peace-loving" neighbor, if he suddenly wants to fire missiles at them ????


        Naturally, they will not be able to repel the full-scale aggression of their "peace-loving" neighbor. But making a victory very expensive is quite. Otherwise, the Americans would have long ago tidied up Cuba to their raking paws.

        Therefore, only the naive would think that in the event of a military conflict in Cuba there will be many who wish to protect the Castro family.


        Again, this refutes the very existence of the Island of Liberty at a time when the much richer and more powerful Iraq, Serbia and Libya are being swallowed up by their "peace-loving neighbors."

        Today they have only one way out, to run on inflatable rafts towards their "peaceful" neighbor, which they regularly do.


        This is not an option in ANY case, if this flight becomes widespread and the communist regime falls, then the Americans will quickly bring everyone back and surround the island with patrol ships. So the locals won't even see a "dead chicken" once a year. But your "sexually" fantasies then there will definitely come true and it will really be the only way to make a living.

        It is rather a "shame of God" I must say. Although it's no surprise that they cook broth from skinny chicken 3-5 times, with the same technique.


        But they have the world's best free medicine and free education, their children do not die under "democratic" bombs and they work for themselves, and not for an oligarch uncle or a foreigner.
        1. Valkokaarti
          Valkokaarti April 10 2016 13: 42
          -5
          Quote: alicante11
          Otherwise, the Americans would have tidied Cuba to their raking legs long ago.

          Well, then what about the Cuban neighbors not tidied up, who have more resources and a smaller population and an army?
          Quote: alicante11
          when much richer and more powerful Iraq, Serbia and Libya are swallowed up by "peace-loving neighbors."

          Well, then what else are much richer like Norway or Thailand still not swallowed up by "peace-loving neighbors"?
          Quote: alicante11
          Americans will quickly bring everyone back and surround the island with patrol ships.

          The rest of the "Latinos" are not very successful in returning something, although the wall was built.
          Quote: alicante11
          But your "sexually" fantasies then there will definitely come true and it will really be the only way to make a living.

          And by the way, this is by no means the worst way for them; Cuban girls have it all, just how to drink tea, features of mentality and physiology.
          Quote: alicante11
          But they have the best free medicine in the world

          Nonsense! Although by "Soviet standards" it can be.
          But only on time, this is all unthinkable without modern and expensive equipment and developed pharmacology. And all this in Cuba is not, nor the appropriate technologies, nor specialists, nor resources, nor currency.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 10 2016 15: 24
            +3
            Well, then what about the Cuban neighbors not tidied up, who have more resources and a smaller population and an army?


            For instance? Haiti, Dominican Republic? Or are you talking about Venezuela? So the first two have long been and irrevocably "tidied up", and the third under the leadership of Chavez as well as Cuba could make the war very expensive for the Amers.

            Well, then what else are much richer like Norway or Thailand still not swallowed up by "peace-loving neighbors"?


            I mean not swallowed? For a long time and irrevocably. And on the hind legs in front of the West they stand and tolerantly substitute all the necessary places when they order.

            And by the way, this is by no means the worst way for them; Cuban girls have it all, just how to drink tea, features of mentality and physiology.


            But this is an insult. It’s a pity that you didn’t say this on Havana Street, you would have cleaned the ryashok in full. And rightly so.

            Nonsense! Although by "Soviet standards" it can be.


            Others are not judged by themselves. This is me about "nonsense". In general, you do not work well, only for an internship you were admitted to the unit of "controversial daughters of officers"?
            1. Talgat
              Talgat April 10 2016 18: 06
              +1
              I support Alicante!

              They justified everything very clearly and precisely.

              Before the revolution, Cubans slaves cut reeds like slaves - while their women appeased fat Amer tourists in 5 star hotels. The pro-American dictator Batista suppressed freedom and kept people in poverty and lack of rights

              Having dropped the neo-colonial diktat - Liberty Island gained not only independence and medicine with education - they gained dignity and honor - which will not be sold for "bourgeois barrel of jam and a box of cookies" - remember Malchish Kibalchish drinks

              And all 9 countries of ALBA did the same

              Quote: Valkokaarti
              do you think that the tractors of the 50s can somehow interfere with the "peace-loving" neighbor, if he suddenly wants to fire missiles at them ????


              The US is not afraid of tractors - it’s clear that the Bolivarian Union is military weaker - and there are still no Chinese bases

              The United States is afraid of the spirit and desire of peoples for freedom. The Bolivarian idea is very popular in LA - and when millions are inspired by the idea of ​​resistance - no aggressor or dictator - not even the United States - can break them with any bombing

              And besides, Venezuela, for example, decently armed itself with the new Sukhoi and C-300, etc. There it’s even difficult to bomb it now
              1. atalef
                atalef April 10 2016 19: 51
                -1
                Quote: Talgat
                Before the revolution, Cubans slaved reeds like slaves - while their women appeased fat Amerov tourists in 5 star hotels

                Believe me, little has changed now, they still chopped cane, and about prostitution in Cuba, it’s enough to read the impressions of Russian tourists
                Quote: Talgat
                The pro-American dictator Batista suppressed freedom and kept people in poverty and lack of rights

                What has changed ?
                Only without slogans, pliz
                Quote: Talgat
                Liberty Island gained not only independence and medicine with education - they gained dignity and honor

                Open the borders and you will see how fast Cubans rush to the states
                Quote: Talgat
                And besides, Venezuela, for example, decently armed itself with the new Sukhoi and C-300, etc. There it’s even difficult to bomb it now

                They don’t have time for this, they are standing in lines for toilet paper.
        2. atalef
          atalef April 10 2016 13: 51
          -3
          [quote = alicante11] [quote]
          But they have the world's best free medicine and free education, their children do not die under "democratic" bombs and they work for themselves, and not for an oligarch-uncle or a foreigner. [/ Quote]
          What then are they on 57 place in the world in terms of life expectancy? wink
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 10 2016 15: 25
            +3
            What then are they on 57 place in the world in terms of life expectancy?


            The reason is commonplace. The general state of the economy does not contribute to high life expectancy. Give examples where this is not so.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 10 2016 19: 46
              -1
              Quote: alicante11
              The reason is commonplace. The general state of the economy does not contribute to high life expectancy. Give examples where this is not so.

              Strange, but it seems to be the best medicine in the world (as you say) belay
              Show me a country that is economically full of priests, but at the same time it has -
              Quote: alicante11
              But they have the best free medicine in the world and free education.

              Storyteller.
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 April 11 2016 14: 55
                +1
                Strange, but it seems to be the best medicine in the world (as you say)


                Because not oligarchs are fed, but people are treated. Exaggerated, but true.

                Show me a country that is economically full of priests, but at the same time it has -


                Cuba.

                Storyteller.


                No more than you.
  8. sa-ag
    sa-ag April 10 2016 08: 15
    +3
    Sadness is all this, without the availability of modern electronics
    1. Valkokaarti
      Valkokaarti April 10 2016 10: 39
      -4
      Quote: sa-ag
      Sadness is all this, without the availability of modern electronics

      Sadness is all without a normal leadership in the country, political freedoms and at least the minimum acceptable standard of living.
  9. volodya
    volodya April 10 2016 09: 04
    +6
    Quote: sa-ag
    Sadness is all this, without the availability of modern electronics

    But still they could not strangle Cuba! Although many were crushed. Well done guys!
  10. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 April 10 2016 09: 11
    +6
    As they say ... the need for invention is strong ... Well done, the main task of such armed forces is to cause unacceptable damage to the aggressor and protect the coastal zone. If necessary, you can put some kind of banana "democracy" in place, although you should not give a reason to Washington and its mongrels.
    Regarding modern electronics, and who said that it is not? You can buy a lot and quite on the level. Aggressor, you can punish in full if only the elite did not sell their people.
    1. Valkokaarti
      Valkokaarti April 10 2016 10: 42
      -10%
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      although you should not give a reason to Washington and its mongrels.

      Are you writing from the zone? What are the "mongrels"? In your cell?
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 10 2016 12: 51
        +5
        Are you writing from the zone? What are the "mongrels"? In your cell?


        You do not know the lexicon of the "zone", there are "sixes", "roosters", etc. "animals". And the mongrels are not there. But in world politics - there is.
        1. Valkokaarti
          Valkokaarti April 10 2016 13: 45
          -7
          Quote: alicante11
          You do not know the lexicon of the "zone"

          I know perfectly well both the "lexicon of the zone" and the general level of criminalization of our society.
          But let it be known to you, in the cultural world people do not reason with "criminal concepts" and do not divide people (especially in world politics) into sixes and so on.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 10 2016 15: 17
            +1
            I know perfectly well both the "lexicon of the zone" and the general level of criminalization of our society.


            According to your statements, this is not visible.

            But let it be known to you, in the cultural world, people do not reason with "criminal concepts"


            Yes, in a "cultural form" they simply rob, kill, destroy entire states. And all under the guise of "tolerance". You yourself are not disgusted with this duplicity?
  11. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets April 10 2016 09: 30
    +5
    An interesting article, still there were photographs. Article plus.
  12. Arkan
    Arkan April 10 2016 10: 19
    +2
    I respect the Cubans! America let him smoke bamboo! If the Americans decide to land again on Liberty Island, then the losses for them will be very unacceptable.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 10 2016 19: 52
      +2
      Quote: Arkan
      I respect the Cubans! America let him smoke bamboo! If the Americans decide to land again on Liberty Island, then the losses for them will be very unacceptable.

      Obama landed, returned alive laughing
      1. Starshina wmf
        Starshina wmf April 11 2016 12: 00
        -1
        BUT DECLINED.
  13. dv_generalov
    dv_generalov April 10 2016 11: 32
    +3
    Well done !!!!!!!
  14. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 12: 25
    +4
    Here is alteration armored personnel carrier 60
  15. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN April 10 2016 12: 54
    0
    It is a pity, of course, that the article is without a photo ... I would like to look at the pepelats of local Kulibins!
    1. cobalt
      cobalt April 10 2016 12: 59
      +1
      I found some photos for you, look.
    2. thinker
      thinker April 10 2016 13: 16
      +1
      You on a silver platter on a silver platter? Everything is in nete yes
  16. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 12: 54
    +3
    Btr 60 with a zoo looks like this among Cubans.
  17. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 12: 57
    0
    And here’s the BRDM 2 self-propelled mortar
  18. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 13: 00
    +3
    But I like this model most of all
  19. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 13: 08
    +1
    Zu57 based on BTR 60 shows how deeply cut the body
  20. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 13: 11
    +1
    Zrk Cubans modernized in this way, making them self-propelled.
  21. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 13: 22
    +1
    T 34 - D 30 is such a symbiosis
  22. cobalt
    cobalt April 10 2016 13: 28
    +2
    And here's another photo of self-propelled alterations, it turned out very worthy
  23. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 10 2016 14: 23
    +1
    Quote: Talgat
    After the collapse, people began to eat bread milk meat 7 times - 8 times less. (

    But is your statistics lying? Now I can just go to almost any store and simply, WITHOUT A QUEUE, buy ANY meat of your choice. In the USSR, my parents and I could not afford such a thing, if meat happened, it would fly quickly or they had to stand in long lines to get something incomprehensible and unimaginable. request

    Another example - during the 70 years of Soviet rule, the village where my relatives' house was was heated by stove heating, and the problem of hot water was extremely urgent. But in modern Russia, we were able to buy an excellent water heating unit without question, and only in 2000 we finally had gas in our village and we had the opportunity to put an automatic heating circuit!

    Quote: atalef
    I have the floor of the 18 department, the numbers on 2 weeks fly to Cuba - I’m all reaping their first lips, and you read it — so half operates on info from the USSR
    Ask a colleague from me - I have repeatedly been to the Island of Non-Freedom (though the last time a couple of years ago) and I can tell a lot "firsthand". laughing

    Quote: Valkokaarti
    Do you really think that tractors of the 50s can somehow interfere with the "peace-loving" neighbor, if he suddenly wants to fire missiles at them ????
    Exactly ! It is ridiculous to compare the small and technically very backward army of a very poor state with any modern one. The comrade above said correctly - "Kulibins against their will" ...
  24. volodya
    volodya April 10 2016 14: 57
    +4
    They should have thrown a pair there
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 10 2016 15: 16
      +2
      Quote: volodya
      They should have thrown a pair there

      And what for is it there, excuse me? Is someone about to bomb Liberty Island? With airplaneoff?

      Sneakers do not tell .. eagles, damn it, indoor .. learned three words - Caliber, Armata, and S-400, and now they pop it, without getting there ..

      Wildly pisses off at times yes
      1. IS-80_RVGK
        IS-80_RVGK April 10 2016 15: 25
        +3
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        And what for is it there, excuse me? Is someone about to bomb Liberty Island? With airplaneoff?

        Do not tell the slippers .. house eagles .. have learned three words - Caliber, Armata, and S-400, and pop them now, without getting into ..

        Wildly pisses off at times

        Yeah, here you are, a corrupt liberal, a fifth column and an American spy. Well, never have these trustees evoked confidence in me. It turns out not in vain.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 10 2016 16: 03
          +1
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK
          Yeah, here you are, a corrupt liberal, a fifth column and an American spy. Well, never have these trustees evoked confidence in me. It turns out not in vain

          Oh Makar! Listen, are you called differently .. or am I confusing with whom? what

          I, too, I remember, he tried to call me an earthworm ..
          1. IS-80_RVGK
            IS-80_RVGK April 10 2016 16: 11
            +3
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Oh Makar! Listen, are you called differently .. or am I confusing with whom?

            I, too, I remember, he tried to call me an earthworm ..

            An attempt to drive Volodin cost a lot. They seem to be friends with the head of the site. In general, Volodin got into a jaundice and drank me without any warning. With some tortured justification, I allegedly insulted the chief editor. But since the Russians did not give up, he still moved to a new armored account from the Reserve of the Supreme Commander. smile
            And, yes, I didn’t call a worm. hi
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 10 2016 16: 22
              +3
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK
              Trying to drive Volodin cost a lot

              YYYYYYY laughing ... understandably..

              I’m trying to say that Volodin’s article - um ... well, not really - cost 114 minuses only for this comment .. and another one and a half hundred over the next laughing

              Quote: IS-80_RVGK
              And yes, the worm I did not call

              Well, maybe I didn’t understand what .. okay, let's go ..

              So what are my complaints?

              - What, in Cuba, the S-300 is urgently needed?
              - Or are there few Orloffs on the site, which 10 tanks in Latvia offer to extinguish with gauges?

              And? wink
              1. IS-80_RVGK
                IS-80_RVGK April 10 2016 16: 31
                +2
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                So what are my complaints?

                - What, in Cuba, the S-300 is urgently needed?
                - Or are there few Orloffs on the site, which 10 tanks in Latvia offer to extinguish with gauges?

                It was such an attempt to make a joke with a cunning plan to cut down the advantages of urapatriots. And then do you understand somehow after the lieutenant general it is already a little uncomfortable in the rank of corporal. smile

                Quote: Cat Man Null
                I’m trying to say that Volodin’s article - um ... well, not really - cost 114 minuses only for this comment .. and another one and a half hundred over the next

                What do you want? Well, you stepped on a sore spot, here the militant old people are full of all sorts of political views. Pension for all of them is an extremely sensitive topic. Volodin is in these moods and tried to play with his illiterate article.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 10 2016 16: 33
                  +2
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK
                  after the lieutenant general is already a little uncomfortable with the rank of corporal

                  C'mon .. it’s a bargain .. on New Year’s Eve, I’m also in the ranks .. happens wink
    2. UNFAMILIAR
      UNFAMILIAR April 10 2016 21: 05
      0
      Will our base be cast
  25. UNFAMILIAR
    UNFAMILIAR April 10 2016 20: 56
    0
    And the illustrations are the box recourse
  26. Grishka cat
    Grishka cat April 10 2016 21: 18
    0
    Cuba, even with the help of the USSR, and now China, is defending its national interests in PAX AMERICA. Previously, until 1959 this was impossible in America, it was impossible in principle. Apparently, Batista should have been and F. Castro and his comrades should have appeared. And also the USSR and communist ideas! Without this, there would be no Island of Freedom! At first, Castro did not position himself as Marxist, but the United States, as always, ruined everything!
    And the fact that people are running, well, what can you do, in the USA there are jelly banks and dairy rivers!
  27. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 10 2016 23: 14
    +2
    Quote: UNKNOWN
    Will our base be cast

    You are our smart one, but explain to me how it is for such great supposedly fighters with Washington as the Castro brothers, - ON THE SAME ISLAND - THE WHOLE EXTERRITORIAL ENCLAVE of the USA is located? with the base of Guantanamo, remember? wink And this is strange, half a century already, and everything exists, has not been wiped off the face of the earth, desecrates the sacred free Cuban land! what is it, huh?


    Quote: Grishka the Cat
    And also the USSR and communist ideas!

    I will delight you! F. Castro associates (mainly children of wealthy Cuban latifundists) were not communists as long as they were supported by the same USA and Mexico. When did he decide to deviate from the line of the Washington party, because I realized that he was framed - he decided to rely on the USSR - he instantly became a communist! laughing

    Quote: Grishka the Cat
    Apparently, Batista should have been and F. Castro and his comrades should have appeared
    And again, comrade, I will delight you! You do not understand the nefig in Cuban affairs! wink You probably don’t know that at the end of his reign, Batista turned out to be objectionable to the United States, and a group of "barbudas" was urgently created, which was charged with overthrowing his regime. But this did not succeed, they were defeated and driven into the mountains.

    In Washington, they quickly understood everything and said, ok, not a problem, let them finish it. Moreover, Batista quickly reported that they understood everything and wouldn’t do any more harm!

    And "Radio Rebelde" with a portable radio began to broadcast urgently - "Free people of all countries - save us! Communist heroes are dying in the jungles of Cuba!" And Moscow "heard", although theoretically and technically it shouldn't have ... bully

    And quickly, out of nowhere, "the people's militia ... no. Not Donbass, but Cuba" appeared, weapons began to appear from somewhere ("yes, anyone can buy in the market or in Voentorg"). laughing And under Castro's command, instead of several tens of half-dead soldiers, there was a well-armed army of several thousand people, which miraculously was able to COMPARE with the GOVERNMENT TROOPS in battles and take Havana !!! fellow