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The military forces of Dushanbe and Bishkek are one name


Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are members of the CSTO, personifying in this organization the concept of “consumer security”. Both countries are unable to protect themselves because of the extremely limited economic, scientific, technical, military, and even, despite the high fertility, demographic potential.

The situation is aggravated by the fact that at the end of the 80-s and in the 90-s a large part of the non-indigenous (primarily Slavic) population was expelled from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, which dealt a severe blow to the economies of both countries and sharply limited the possibilities of military construction. At the same time, both of them are in an extremely complex geopolitical situation that threatens their statehood. In the south - Afghanistan and Pakistan, the sources of radical Islamism (the second with the nuclear power). In the west - Uzbekistan, which can be dangerous both in the current state of a full-fledged state, and even more so if it turns into another hotbed of religious extremism.

In the east - China, slowly but surely drawing Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan into its orbit in a peaceful - economic and demographic way. However, for these two countries, it is senseless to regard China as a potential adversary due to the absolute incompatibility of military capabilities.

Kyrgyzstan flew away

The land forces of Kyrgyzstan are divided into Northern and South-Western regional commands.

The SRK includes the 8 motorized rifle division (headquarters is Tokmak city), the 2 motorized rifle brigade (Koy-Tash), the 25 brigade of the special forces Scorpion (Tokmak), several separate battalions.

YuZRK has a 1 th motorized rifle brigade (Osh), a 24 th brigade of special forces Ilbirs, several separate battalions.

There is also a 3-I anti-aircraft artillery brigade.

In service is up to 215 tanks T-72 (in reality there are hardly more than 150 of them), from 30 to 42 BRDM-2, about 400 BMP and BMD (up to 274 BMP-1, 113 BMP-2, minimum 4 BMD-1), more than 300 armored personnel carriers (200 MTLB, up to 122 BTR-70, 15 BTR-80). Part of the armored vehicles belongs to the National Guard (VV MVD) and the border troops of the country.

The artillery gun -30), 12 MLRS BM-2. There are 9 ATGMs (18 "Baby", 2 "Competition", 1 "Bassoon") and 141 PTO MT-18.

In the 4 air defense missile defense system "Strela-10", to 400, the Strela-2 / -3, 24, ZSU "Shilka", 24 anti-aircraft guns ZU-23-2 and С-60.

The Kyrgyz Air Force was armed with about 100 MiG-21 fighters, but now they have all lost their combat capabilities. The only aircraft that can apply weapon, are 4 training L-39 (can be used as light attack aircraft). There are 4 passenger aircraft - 2 Tu-154 and 2 "Boeing-737", intended for the top management of the country. The Air Force also includes from the 2 to 6 helicopter Mi-24 and 9 – 19 multi-purpose Mi-8.

As part of the 5 anti-aircraft missile brigade - 4 division (24 PU) ZRK C-75, 2 division (8 PU) C-125, 1 division (12 PU) ZRK "Circle".

The only military-industrial enterprise in the country is the Dastan plant, which produces conventional and reactive ("Flurry") torpedoes. Kyrgyzstan itself is not needed because of its lack of a navy. Throughout the post-Soviet period, Bishkek has been bargaining with Moscow on what conditions to transfer the plant to the ownership of the Russian Federation. At the same time, most of its products are exported to India.

On the territory of the country is 999-I Air Force Base of the Russian Federation. These are roughly 10 combat aircraft and up to 15 helicopters.

As can be seen, the military potential of Kyrgyzstan is modest. The level of combat and moral and psychological training of personnel, to put it mildly, is low.

With the Pamir by thread


In Tajikistan, the situation is much worse.

With the exception of the Baltic republics, which refused to consider themselves successors of the USSR, Tajikistan became the only former Allied republic that did not receive any share of the Soviet army after the collapse of the country. National Armed Forces were created in the post-Soviet period with the help of Russia. At the same time, the Tajik army initially became a synthesis of government troops and opposition forces during the civil war of the first half of the 90's. Although 20 years have passed since then, the complete integration of these formations did not happen, as demonstrated by the events of the second half of 2015. Nevertheless, formally, the country's Armed Forces are considered to be one. All of their military equipment of Soviet production, transferred by Russia. There is no own defense industry in Tajikistan. In the past two years, began the flow of technology from China.

Amusing guardThe ground forces of Tajikistan include six brigades: 1 and 3 th motorized rifle, 11 th mountain rifle, 7 th air assault, 1 th MTR (Presidential Guard), 12 th artillery. All heavy military equipment is in the 1 Brigade of the SSO, which simultaneously performs the function of the MVD.

The tank fleet consists of 14 conditionally new T-72. There are 15 BMP-2, 23 Soviet (20 BTR-80, 2 BTR-70, 1 BTR-60) and 11 Chinese (5 YW-531H, 6 WZ-523) armor trans.

Artillery includes X-NUMX – 10 towed guns D-12, 30 – 10 mortars PM-15, 38 MLRS BM-18.

In the terrestrial VOP 3 division of S-75 (18 PU), 4 division of S-125 (16 PU), several tens MPADS "Arrow-2», 28 SoL-23-4 "shilka», 22 antiaircraft gun C-60 .

The air force does not have combat aircraft and is purely symbolic. They include the 3 transporter (Tu-134A, Yak-40, An-26), 4 training L-39 and 1 Yak-52. Up to 14 combat helicopters Mi-24 and 12 – 24 multipurpose Mi-8.

The 201-I military base of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (the former 201-I motorized rifle division) is deployed in the country (in Dushanbe and Kurgan-Tube). It includes - 3 tank, 1 reconnaissance, 1 communications battalions, 1 division of SAU, including 1 mountain (3 mountain). The X-NUMX tanks T-86, 72 BMP-123, 2 SAU 36C2, 3 18C2, 12 MRLS BM-24, 21 ADMS ZRK (18 "Wasp", XNXXGHUM) X-NXX, 12 XMNUMX, 6, 10 AMS (6 "Wasp", XNXXGHUM, XNUMX, XNUMX, XNUMX, XNUMX AMR (XNUMX "Wasp", XNXXNXX, Axis, XNUMX, XNUMX, XNUMX AMS (XNUMX "Wasp", XNHX, APN, XNXX, XNUMX, XNUMX ZRK XRNXX, XNUMX XNUMX ZRK (XNUMX "Osa"

Bargaining is inappropriate here.


As is the case with another CSTO member - Armenia (“Outpost with questions”), the Russian military bases are of utmost importance for the security of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. True, there are significant differences in the behavior of the authorities of these countries.

Armenia and NKR have very powerful and combat-ready armies, but Yerevan does not require Moscow to pay for staying the 102 base on its territory. On the contrary, he himself largely finances it. And even more so does not impose any other conditions in connection with the functioning of the base.

In Kyrgyzstan, not to mention Tajikistan, things are much worse with armies. However, they regularly crave payments for the maintenance of Russian military bases in their territories and put forward various other demands (for example, on the status of their citizens working in the Russian Federation).

The most amazing thing is that Moscow is being blackmailed and begins to discuss the Kyrgyz and Tajik demands seriously. Although the answer to them should be only one: a statement of immediate withdrawal. For military and geographical reasons, it would be much easier for Russia to defend only Kazakhstan from the expansion of the Islamists from the south, especially since the latter itself possesses highly capable armed forces. For Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, the withdrawal of Russian troops will be a disaster. If the leaders of these countries are not aware of such simple things - this is their problem, not ours. Strangely, this does not seem to be understood in Moscow either.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 3 2016 04: 48
    +25
    The army of Oorfene Deuce just wants to hide behind the backs of Russian soldiers and even give them more money for it. I imagine what will start there if the Russian troops leave there: war and chaos with a large number of civilian casualties.
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer April 3 2016 05: 10
      +9
      It looks like it has already begun. See the latest news from Nagorno-Karabakh.
      1. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 April 3 2016 07: 42
        +31
        Armenia and NKR have very powerful and combat-ready armies, but Yerevan does not require Moscow to pay for staying the 102 base on its territory. On the contrary, he himself largely finances it. And even more so does not impose any other conditions in connection with the functioning of the base.

        - This is understandable: the Armenians are an ancient and wise people and are well aware that in the event of a large-scale conflict with much stronger (at least on paper) Azerbaijan (which, moreover, is most likely supported by Turkey, which since ancient times has its interests in the Caucasus and never hiding her desires to turn Azerbaijan into her vassal (or, if luck, a colony), and destroy Armenia as a state), only Russia and no one else can help protect their interests. Even despite the fact that Russia has recently largely equipped Baku with modern weapons (T-90 tanks, other armored vehicles and artillery systems, etc.), Azerbaijan paid well. For the sake of fairness, it is worth noting that Russia also supplied modern armaments to Armenia, moreover, on credit, in the amount of, if not mistaken, $ 200 million. It is possible that it was precisely the fear of the forthcoming military strengthening of the positions of Armenia in the unrecognized NPO that caused (or just the reason) that Aliyev decided to aggravate the conflict. I believe that the further escalation of the conflict and its outcome largely (if not decisively) depend on Russia.
        And the Kyrgyz and Tajiks are well aware that Russia is pursuing the goal of protecting its own interests in the Central Asian region (covering the border from the access of Islamic radicals from Afghanistan, which has been plagued by endless war, suppressing drug trafficking from there, and counteracting the subversive activities of Western (and Chinese too) in the region and much more) is simply forced to maintain their defenses and agree to the demands of Dushanbe and Bishkek. In any case, it is indisputable that one must meet the enemy as far as possible of their own borders - especially if there is such an opportunity.
        I have the honor.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets April 3 2016 08: 26
          +23
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          But the Kyrgyz and Tajiks are well aware that Russia, pursuing the goal of protecting its own interests in the Central Asian region, is simply forced to maintain their defense capabilities and agree to the demands of Dushanbe and Bishkek.
          + you for the analysis. hi I just want to note, protecting its distant approaches, Russia defends both Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, often with the blood and life of their soldiers. And the rulers of those countries, realizing this, also want to get enough of it. This is at least disgusting and disgusting.
        2. heccrbq8
          heccrbq8 April 3 2016 08: 28
          +6
          How much did this "wise" people get in trouble in Russia, killing and maiming my compatriots, no need to tell?
          1. sichevik
            sichevik April 3 2016 10: 04
            +3
            Quote: heccrbq8
            How much did this "wise" people get in trouble in Russia, killing and maiming my compatriots, no need to tell?

            And who did not play tricks? In my opinion, everyone was perverted. And just as ours, our own, home-grown (all kinds of Kazan, Tambov and many others there) were mischievous at one time, so the hair stands on end. In every nation there are scum and bastards but in the bulk there are many normal people.
            1. Cap.Morgan
              Cap.Morgan April 3 2016 11: 13
              +20
              Quote: sichevik
              Quote: heccrbq8
              How much did this "wise" people get in trouble in Russia, killing and maiming my compatriots, no need to tell?

              And who did not play tricks? In my opinion, everyone was perverted. And just as ours, our own, home-grown (all kinds of Kazan, Tambov and many others there) were mischievous at one time, so the hair stands on end. In every nation there are scum and bastards but in the bulk there are many normal people.

              That is, you want to say that in the Russian cities, Asians were massively beaten and raped, deprived of their property, took away apartments and houses? Wasn't it like that?
              Tolerast noodles are just hanging on your ears.
              Do not tell me where the "nanny" is now - an Uzbek woman who took away a four-year-old child's head a month ago and wandered, waving a terrible trophy near the metro, with cries of Allah Akbar! Give an example when Russians were seen in such excesses.

              Tambov, Kazan ...
              Here are drug dealers from Central Asia - the completely real evil that exists now, it can be observed personally, so to speak, at any time convenient for you.
              1. sichevik
                sichevik April 3 2016 11: 58
                +6
                So why do you personally observe drug dealers, so to speak, at any time convenient for me, and the law enforcement agencies do not notice point blank? How so? Everyone sees, but they do not see. Or for a fee they don’t want to see? An Uzbek and two Tajiks made repairs to me in the apartment. Talked a little with them. I will not say that they are all so poor, unhappy, honest and good. There are all kinds of things. Very cunning and on their own mind. But our fellow citizens very often throw them for money, or simply after the work done they turn them over either to the police or to the FMS. This is not to pay for repairs. For some reason, this patient is completely remembered by the mentally abnormal Uzbek. And the Kyrgyz, who jumped under the subway train to save the fallen Russian, the girls had already somehow forgotten. By the way, I didn’t hear that in Armenia they would once cut up raped, robbed and killed Russians. In Central Asia, I won’t deny it was like that, I just can’t say anything about Kazakhstan. But the conversation was just about the Armenians.
                1. Cap.Morgan
                  Cap.Morgan April 3 2016 17: 07
                  0
                  Quote: sichevik
                  For some reason, this patient is completely remembered by the mentally abnormal Uzbek. And the Kyrgyz, who jumped under the subway train to save the fallen Russian, the girls had already somehow forgotten. By the way, I didn’t hear that in Armenia they would once cut up raped, robbed and killed Russians. In Central Asia, I won’t deny it happened, I just can’t say anything about Kazakhstan. But the conversation was just about the Armenians.

                  I didn’t mean Armenia.
                  But neighboring Azerbaijan is definitely yes.
                  About the distinguished Kyrgyz history is muddy. The policeman claimed that the savior went in an unknown direction. Then he was found?
              2. Semurg
                Semurg April 3 2016 12: 11
                0
                Quote: Cap.Morgan


                That is, you want to say that in the Russian cities, Asians were massively beaten and raped, deprived of their property, took away apartments and houses? Wasn't it like that?
                Tolerast noodles are just hanging on your ears.
                Do not tell me where the "nanny" is now - an Uzbek woman who took away a four-year-old child's head a month ago and wandered, waving a terrible trophy near the metro, with cries of Allah Akbar! Give an example when Russians were seen in such excesses.

                .

                what is true is true the wave of skinhead killings of Asians in the Russian Federation was muffled. It seems like last year the "Russian" In Armenia he crumbled a whole family with the children, but of course he did not shout Allah Akbar in this, you are right. Good and bad, as well as with mental disabilities, people in approximately equal proportions are present in all nations and peoples, and your statements that such Russians do not smell like Nazism and faith in a superior race without flaws.
                1. Cap.Morgan
                  Cap.Morgan April 3 2016 17: 15
                  +7
                  Quote: Semurg
                  Quote: Cap.Morgan


                  That is, you want to say that in the Russian cities, Asians were massively beaten and raped, deprived of their property, took away apartments and houses? Wasn't it like that?
                  Tolerast noodles are just hanging on your ears.
                  Do not tell me where the "nanny" is now - an Uzbek woman who took away a four-year-old child's head a month ago and wandered, waving a terrible trophy near the metro, with cries of Allah Akbar! Give an example when Russians were seen in such excesses.

                  .

                  Good and bad people, as well as those with mental disabilities, are present in approximately equal proportions among all nations and peoples, and your statements that among Russians there are such dumb ones as Nazism and faith in a higher race without flaws.

                  Azerbaijanis threw the grandmother’s wife upside down from the window.
                  Uncle and aunt kicked out of the house. The uncle then died of grief.
                  My wife and mother-in-law were taken away an apartment in the center of Baku, now a large democratic boss lives there.
                  Of course, we can assume that they are mentally ill. In equal proportions.
                  1. Semurg
                    Semurg April 3 2016 18: 08
                    -3
                    Quote: Cap.Morgan

                    Of course, we can assume that they are mentally ill. In equal proportions.

                    A Tajik family was slaughtered and beaten in the street, and a little girl was dragged out from under a car and beaten to death. The guardianship organs were taken away from another Tajik family of an infant and he safely fell ill and died there. And of course all nations have bad and good people and there is no need to tell tales about the "Russians" that they are angels and all the other demons. and the mentally ill are present in equal proportions in all nations. It is clear that you have personal scores, so of course there is no impartiality or objectivity.
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              4. tacet
                tacet April 3 2016 17: 32
                +2
                Not so long ago in Armenia, a serviceman of the RF Armed Forces destroyed a family of local residents. Or did you forget? So do not distort the words of the sichevik. Do not judge a people by its individual representatives.
                1. Cap.Morgan
                  Cap.Morgan April 3 2016 17: 42
                  0
                  Quote: tacet
                  Not so long ago in Armenia, a serviceman of the RF Armed Forces destroyed a family of local residents. Or did you forget? So do not distort the words of the sichevik. Do not judge a people by its individual representatives.

                  Nothing is known about this story and its investigation.
                  1. tacet
                    tacet April 4 2016 10: 37
                    0
                    "Nothing is known about this story and its investigation." V. Kovtun said about the same a couple of issues of "Sunday Evening" ago
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 April 3 2016 08: 22
        +3
        While within the framework of the usual probing.

        12 Azerbaijanis, a Mi-24G SuperHind tank and helicopter or a budget gift from Ukraine PU-1 - with Ukrainian ATGMs (in fact, this only allows you to determine the type of helicopter).

        18 Armenians and 35 injured.

        Both sides began to pull the equipment to the line of contact. However, in the evening the fighting subsided and in the morning there were no reports of resumption.
    2. Finches
      Finches April 3 2016 09: 07
      +5
      Amusing armies are not amusing, but strategic goals must be pursued here, which the Kremlin is doing - through the military component, it is gradually integrating these republics back into an alliance with Russia! If they are thrown, tomorrow there will be radicals in them, and after tomorrow the NATO base, under the pretext of fighting the radicals!
      1. Talgat
        Talgat April 3 2016 09: 45
        +13
        Quote: Finches
        through the military component, gradually integrates these republics back into an alliance with Russia!

        Yes, that's right, and rightly so

        They write here that it may be cheaper and easier for Russia to "throw" Central Asia - and together with KZ to protect the Kazakhstan southern border - as the southern border of the EAC

        This is a deeply erroneous - isolationist point of view. We will lose Tajiks - Kyrgyzstan, it is not clear what will happen to Uzbekistan - the south of KZ will become unstable. On the contrary - it is necessary to jointly expand the influence further south - which, in principle, is what we are doing.

        We already heard in the 90s from liberals and traitors "throw off the yoke of Central Asia" (Solzhenitsyn is a bastard) - and we were also meant. As a result, Russia did not become richer or stronger, but only weakened and lost all those positions.

        Kazakhstan has already proved that it was not a "yoke" and it was a mistake to "throw off" it

        It is now clear that the Central Asian republics were an important component of stability - and there was work for them in the USSR. Eurasia should always move and "press" to the south - come there - as the steppe people always did - and later the Russian empire and then the USSR

        Otherwise, the south will come to us to all
      2. black
        black April 3 2016 10: 23
        +6
        So far, only the citizens of these republics are well integrated in Russia.
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan April 3 2016 11: 20
          +3
          Quote: black
          So far, only the citizens of these republics are well integrated in Russia.

          Of course, it will soon be like in Germany.
          It would be necessary to grind the veil and donkey - to go to work.
    3. Oorfene Deuce
      Oorfene Deuce April 3 2016 10: 16
      +3
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Army of Oorfene Deuce

      smile What is characteristic, Bishkek (Frunze) is my homeland wink
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt April 3 2016 11: 58
      +2
      What kind of dregs? The successors of the USSR could not be several states, by definition, if the Union collapsed! And, even more so, to refuse such, even if, hypothetically, it has occurred to someone to suggest this to them. belay As an author with such concepts that are not intricate in general, you need to be more careful! lol
      As for the defense capabilities of the CSTO member countries, maybe I could agree with the author if he had at least the prefix of a major general of the RF Armed Forces or a military adviser. And so, personal opinion is not news from where taken.
      1. Androsh
        Androsh April 3 2016 14: 36
        +1
        Indignation is understandable, but it is not clear why the troops should be withdrawn .. this can later result in even greater expenses. The author wrote about the withdrawal of our troops, and this is shortsightedness or betrayal.
        What will happen if Russia withdraws troops is not difficult to guess, Tajikistan will start calling for Americans or Chinese, and they will pay them twice as much. Although it’s more profitable for the Americans to create chaos there, to poison the Taliban, Isis or Uzbeks, then we will see thousands of refugees in Russia and we will have to restore order there, losing soldiers and equipment, which will result in even greater expenses.
    6. Malkor
      Malkor April 6 2016 07: 57
      0
      The data in the article is absolutely incorrect, I served in 201VB, I won’t say the amount of equipment (maybe some secret), multiply by 10 in the lower direction, you won’t be mistaken. as for the Tajik army, only with me more was transferred to them than indicated in the article in total. Young soldiers came to us (their technicians-repairmen) dismantled what was written off for scrap metal, they took spent units (their military unit in the sense), despite their youth - everyone knew the device and correctly understood it. Who is the author of the article, please do not pour acidic cabbage soup into your ears.
  2. Homo
    Homo April 3 2016 05: 08
    +26
    "The most surprising thing is that Moscow is being led to this blackmail and is starting to discuss the Kyrgyz and Tajik demands in earnest."
    This is how the author killed everything that was positive in the article. It is necessary to distinguish "being led to blackmail" from the politics and interests of Russia. Is he a negotiator or a consultant? If not, then his conclusions are worthless. hi
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 April 3 2016 08: 11
      +2
      Is he a negotiator or consultant? If not, then his conclusions are worthless.
      In this case, all of our comments are worthless.
      1. Oorfene Deuce
        Oorfene Deuce April 3 2016 10: 39
        +4
        Quote: aleks700
        In this case, all of our comments are worthless.

        Have you thought otherwise?
        Discussion of topical topics, especially on economics and domestic politics, as well as "beloved" Serdyukovsko-Vasilyevskie village doctors - rather an opportunity to let off steam, express their point of view, which is unlikely to change the current state of affairs. The authorities ignore the priorities of the majority, they have their own interests, most often mercantile.
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 April 3 2016 16: 50
          +1
          Have you thought otherwise?
          Discussion of topical topics, especially on economics and domestic politics, as well as "beloved" Serdyukovsko-Vasilyevskie village doctors - rather an opportunity to let off steam, express their point of view, which is unlikely to change the current state of affairs. The authorities ignore the priorities of the majority, they have their own interests, most often mercantile
          We are not here to influence the authorities - this is not possible, but to exchange opinions and share news.
      2. From Udmurtia
        From Udmurtia April 3 2016 10: 43
        0
        In principle, this is so - just kitchen talk. There is no watered here. parties or movements In principle, this is so - just kitchen talk. There is no watered here. party or movement.
    2. avt
      avt April 3 2016 09: 45
      +16
      Quote: Homo
      Here, the author killed everything positive that was in the article.

      What's positive about the article? When Akayev was still building “Asian Switzerland,” about 200 spirits in galoshes came to him. So they were able to lift ONE turntable into the air, but all the heroes are straight, invincible, well, when the Uzbeks are cut and beaten with sticks, exactly before the arrival of the Russian airborne troops. no better, their "generals" are cut with knives with knives, and then all this "presidential army" goes to the Pamir with a otvetka and they have to negotiate that they should be released back to Dushanbe.
      Quote: Homo
      "The most surprising thing is that Moscow is being led to this blackmail and is starting to discuss the Kyrgyz and Tajik demands in earnest."

      Exactly ! Frozen from impunity, especially Rakhmon. To hook specifically on the pizza, turn it inside with fur and let it hang on its flagpole instead of the largest flag and think about the meaning of life, then you can politely drink a cup of tea ..... with all due respect. NONE of these local bayev is not seriously engaged in anything, except for the protection of drug trafficking, and the risks there are quite serious and dope themselves, and moreover show off throw Russia ... fool There it may be so wrapped up already this year that they will not have time, like at one time Akayev and Bakiev, to reach the Russian border! Everything is ready across the river.
  3. Chisayna
    Chisayna April 3 2016 05: 10
    0
    Nude nude, Tsar Leonid, resurrected. The Tajik Armed Forces have real combat experience. Another thing is that M. Khudoiberdyev and his brigade are no longer there. There are no those who fought from 92 to 97.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 3 2016 06: 23
      0
      I do not deny fighting experience, but the army as such is practically gone. plus you.
  4. Cappit
    Cappit April 3 2016 05: 14
    +1
    Yes, wonderful things are yours, Lord!
  5. Leprekon
    Leprekon April 3 2016 05: 44
    +15
    After reviewing some expert statements, the author realized that he was far from Vanga, and that he could be read only in a sitting position - the main paper should be well wrinkled.

    August 7, 2008 (http://regnum.ru/news/1037955.html)
    There will be no Georgian offensive, this is absolutely ruled out.

    According to "Arab Spring" 2012
    The most important act will be with a probability of 99 percent in 2012. This is the defeat of Syria, obviously Iran. It is almost absolutely inevitable


    Typical "everything is a scavenger, Putin is evil" - from the Yeltsin clip!
    1. Riv
      Riv April 3 2016 09: 11
      0
      Well, what are you doing? A person needs to work out the cookies - that’s what he writes.
  6. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo April 3 2016 05: 55
    +4
    An article like "The hell we got into Syria, it's still far away." The enemy must be met and beaten at distant lines, and not at home. The house will be more whole.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 3 2016 06: 44
    +6
    If the leaders of these countries are not aware of such simple things - this is their problem, not ours.

    I do not think that if we leave Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, the problems will be solved. On the contrary, there will be many more. There is no empty place in nature - we will leave, the NATOrovskis will come. Do we need it? So surrounded by their bases, do not breathe!
    1. Oorfene Deuce
      Oorfene Deuce April 3 2016 11: 58
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      There is no empty place in nature - we will leave, the NATOrovskis will come. Do we need it? So surrounded by their bases, do not breathe!

      Quite right. Only in 2014. The NATO airbase in Manas (Kyrgyzstan) was closed. The fact that she was there, the decision, it seems to me, was dictated by financial considerations. Moreover, the Kyrgyz side has repeatedly raised the issue of increasing the rent, and the United States partially satisfied these requirements. And the level of corruption among the power structures of the Kyrgyz leadership has always gone off scale ...
      By the way, there was one tragic episode when a NATO warrior, being under drugs, shot a Kyrgyz driver awaiting check at a checkpoint.
      In the meantime, Russia has its own air base in Kant in Kyrgyzstan, and a test center for the Navy in Issyk-Kul.
      1. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen April 3 2016 12: 28
        0
        Kyrgyz driver, Russian by nationality like .... ((((
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce April 3 2016 13: 10
          0
          It may very well be ... The media said - "The murder of a citizen of Kyrgyzstan by a NATO serviceman."
  8. Odysseus
    Odysseus April 3 2016 06: 55
    +7
    Khramchikhin in his repertoire, if only he could give something and leave somewhere. If he were appointed by the US President, he would be invaluable to the motherland. America would finally begin to leave various regions of the world.
    Seriously, the proposal to leave Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan is simply insane. It will either give these republics to the PRC, or, even worse, to the Islamists. That, in turn, will bring down the situation in neighboring Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Protect the border of Kazakhstan with a length of thousands of kilometers and not having a natural obstacle is an almost impossible task.
  9. moskowit
    moskowit April 3 2016 07: 25
    +4
    Hello to you. And where did you all read that we were going to leave? It's just that the author speculatively considers a fantastic situation ... And the fact that the armies of these states are not able to restrain external aggression is a fact!
  10. Chisayna
    Chisayna April 3 2016 07: 52
    -5
    And who is going to invade Tajikistan? The army of Afghanistan?
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 3 2016 08: 04
      +6
      But what about the igil or the Taliban.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 April 3 2016 08: 23
      +7
      Quote: Chisain
      And who is going to invade Tajikistan? The army of Afghanistan?


      Here are so many drugs coming from Afghanistan:
      Over the past 10 years, drug production in Afghanistan has grown 40 times. Last year, Afghanistan ranked first in the world for the production of hash. According to the state drug control agency, 549 tons of drugs in opium equivalent come to Russia from Afghanistan in a year, and 711 tons of the same potion go to Europe.

      http://www.nbenegroup.com/true/drugtrafik.html

      These are the main routes:
      Badakhshan Afghanistan - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh, Kyrgyzstan - Sumgait, Azerbaijan (previously morphine was converted into heroin in the Baku region, but with the development of production in Afghanistan itself, Azerbaijan turned into one of the transit points) - Bosnia, Croatia - Western Europe.
      Badakhshan Afghanistan - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh - Bishkek - Samara - Moscow - Estonia - Sweden - USA.
      Badakhshan Afghanistan - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh - Bishkek - Yekaterinburg - Moscow - Estonia - Sweden - USA.
      Badakhshan Afghanistan - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh - Bishkek - Nizhny Novgorod - Moscow - Estonia - Sweden - USA.
      Badakhshan Afghanistan - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh - Bishkek - Saransk - Moscow - Estonia - Sweden - USA.
      Badakhshan - Dushanbe Afghanistan Tajikistan - Bombors, Georgia - Kobuleti (previously morphine was converted to heroin here, but with the development of production in Afghanistan itself, Kobuleti also turned into one of the transit points) - Adjara - Turkey.
      Afghan province Murghab - Mountain Badakhshan, Tajikistan - Osh - Bishkek - Ganja, Azerbaijan - Moscow - Šiauliai, Latvia - Europe.
      Mazar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan - Termez, Uzbekistan - Shali, Chechnya - Nakhichevan, Azerbaijan - Turkey.
      Mazar-e-Sharif - Termez - Samarkand - Ganja - Dagestan - Shali - Moscow - Siauliai.
      Mazar-i-Sharif - Termez - Samarkand - Ganja - Dagestan - Karachay-Cherkessia - Abkhazia - Romania.

      http://ria.ru/spravka/20100603/242406939.html
    3. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik April 3 2016 08: 26
      +1
      so that these two republics become the stronghold of Islamic extremism! why does the United States have a base in Kyrgyzstan?
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 3 2016 09: 12
        +2
        the presence of the military bases of the Russian Federation may somehow be holding back the broads (which I personally doubt very much), but how can these bases hold back the drug flow?
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  11. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 3 2016 09: 05
    +1
    The main weapon of war is not in his hands, but in his head.
    This is evidenced by the conflict between Georgia and Russia.
    As soon as the effect of the drug passed, the brave horsemen threw down their weapons and, dressed in civilian uniforms, became "innocent sheep" ...
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  13. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 3 2016 10: 04
    +1
    Quote: novobranets
    Quote: Aleksandr72
    But the Kyrgyz and Tajiks are well aware that Russia, pursuing the goal of protecting its own interests in the Central Asian region, is simply forced to maintain their defense capabilities and agree to the demands of Dushanbe and Bishkek.
    + you for the analysis. hi I just want to note, protecting its distant approaches, Russia defends both Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, often with the blood and life of their soldiers. And the rulers of those countries, realizing this, also want to get enough of it. This is at least disgusting and disgusting.
    I completely agree ....... it’s Vile! But the Asians .....
  14. Yak28
    Yak28 April 3 2016 10: 16
    +5
    Quote: Aleksandr72
    : Armenians are an ancient and wise people

    That’s why they are almost everything in Moscow, or they are engaged in trade either in crime and Azerbaijanis are the same sages
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 3 2016 13: 53
      +5
      Quote: Yak28
      That’s why they are almost everything in Moscow, or they are engaged in trade either in crime and Azerbaijanis are the same sages


      Viktor Alksnis wrote well in this article (click.):
  15. Alex
    Alex April 3 2016 12: 43
    +6
    Yes, this Central Asia is like a suitcase without a handle: it's hard to carry and not to be thrown. Of course, it is not bad to have a "cordon sanitaire" controlled by the Islamist scum, but the price is rather big. Maybe you can arrange a coup at the top, put in a more compliant leadership, then you can talk about money. And then from the outside somehow it turns out not very neatly.
  16. Radikal
    Radikal April 3 2016 12: 50
    0
    It is not clear how all the above written comments are related to the content of the article? what
  17. Crown
    Crown April 3 2016 13: 27
    +2
    With the collapse of the USSR, the Central Asian republics (and not only the SA) fell into development almost in the Middle Ages.
  18. Lelek
    Lelek April 3 2016 13: 50
    0
    (The most surprising thing is that Moscow is conducting this blackmail and begins to discuss Kyrgyz and Tajik demands in earnest. Although there should be only one answer: a statement of immediate withdrawal.)

    We are forced to "carry on" this blackmail, because if our military is withdrawn from these territories, there will be a second Afghanistan with its drug production, and products will pour into Russia in wide traffic. So let's think about what is more dangerous - the "blackmail" of the Tajik-Kyrgyz "elites" or the emergence of drug mafia states in our belly (although now the main flow of Afghan heroin goes through these countries). yes
  19. Chisayna
    Chisayna April 3 2016 14: 01
    -1
    As for the drug mafia, this is work for the Federal Drug Control Service.
  20. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 April 3 2016 14: 30
    0
    Something the author with the number of vehicles in the Tajik army is clearly cheating on. It seems that this is his outdated data.
    After the reorganization of the 201st MSD staff to the 201st WB staff, the number of our troops was reduced, the units were disbanded, and the excess equipment was transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Tajikistan. Of the only 149 guards of the SMEs, after the reduction of TB to TR, order was transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Tajikistan 20 tanks. From the same regiment, two GSADn 2s1 (36 guns + control systems) were transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the RT. Some 191th SMEs and 92 SMEs transferred some equipment.
  21. Yereke
    Yereke April 3 2016 17: 12
    -12%
    )) Yes, the author in his imperial style of his elder brother and, as usual, the barrel organ dragged about the Russian genocide .. it is not surprising that no one from their neighbors favors them. Learn to respect your neighbors, then you will gain recognition. They thought better of themselves when Putin barely assembled a regiment for the war in Chechnya in the early 2000s after the collapse of the USSR, and even a sailor had to make a soldier ..
    1. Gas truck
      Gas truck April 3 2016 19: 02
      +5
      do not stick your nose into other people's conversations, "citizen of a great country."
    2. pigkiller
      pigkiller April 4 2016 00: 32
      +2
      If the neighbors "do not favor" the Russians, why would they stick to Russia for permanent residence?
      Get rid of the inferiority complex and build your great independent states.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 April 4 2016 02: 34
        0
        Quote: pigkiller
        If the neighbors "do not favor" the Russians, why would they stick to Russia for permanent residence?

        And what kind of visa they will not introduce? So welcome?
  22. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force April 3 2016 19: 54
    0
    Yes, all of them are not wealthy without Russia! only pathos!
  23. nord62
    nord62 April 3 2016 20: 26
    +1
    Those who served in the army of the USSR know perfectly well what narrow-film warriors are, and to them I include all Asians — the base is their inheritance and construction battalion! The second factor is the meanness and venality overwhelmingly. The fact that they are bent, so I have no doubt about this, the question is WHO and what consequences will be for neighboring states and the Caucasus ? what
    1. Chisayna
      Chisayna April 4 2016 05: 11
      +3
      Well, you’re wide-screen, would say it to snipers, Okhlopkov or Nomokonov in person. Or their descendants.
    2. Polochanin
      Polochanin April 4 2016 11: 25
      +2
      Brother, go eat potato pancakes or grandmothers to the stage of constipation, so that from the strain on the pot the eyes open wider.
      He himself may have served in the construction battalion, although judging by the crab on the avatar in the navy, he just doesn’t need everyone to fit in one comb. Everyone happens. I knew Uzbeks, Armenians and Azerbaijanis in those military units where, by definition, they took only Slavs, and even then not all, so they were highly skilled specialists.
      We can safely say that Belarus will bend too in the event of a direct military conflict with the West. There are no "non-bendable" in this world, the only question is who and how will bend. You know the saying "it is easier to beat the dad in a crowd". One by one, they will not just bend us down, but they will rattle us so that mom does not grieve.
      And the Caucasus, by definition, also belongs to Asia, just remember the "wild division". Were the fighters worthless?
  24. Hauptam
    Hauptam April 3 2016 22: 24
    +2
    All the end of the parade of sovereignty, who need Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, have eaten up the reserve since the times of the USSR. Soon, writing will be forgotten, because they did not have it. They tried to be a people and became a crowd. What army are they ?????
  25. Nasty
    Nasty April 4 2016 01: 20
    0
    Quote: sichevik
    Quote: heccrbq8
    How much did this "wise" people get in trouble in Russia, killing and maiming my compatriots, no need to tell?

    And who did not play tricks? In my opinion, everyone was perverted. And just as ours, our own, home-grown (all kinds of Kazan, Tambov and many others there) were mischievous at one time, so the hair stands on end. In every nation there are scum and bastards but in the bulk there are many normal people.

    These are their bastards.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 April 4 2016 02: 36
      0
      Quote: Nasty
      These are their bastards.

      In the 30s - criminals also had such a word ... A bit differently called names - ideologically close ..
  26. stas
    stas April 4 2016 01: 55
    -1
    Basmachi were, and remained so. No other is given to them.
  27. Kostya
    Kostya April 4 2016 13: 23
    +1
    Indeed, let’s arrange "arson" here !?
  28. Sarma
    Sarma April 5 2016 05: 26
    0
    Stop talking with those who organized the pogroms of the Russian population. Russia’s troops should be sent to their homeland, and foreign and independent boors who came to Russia should be sent from Russia to their homeland and at least eat each other there. Independent states should live at their own expense, and not at the expense of the Russian Federation and protect yourself!