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"Caliber": the irresistible fist of Russia

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"Caliber": the irresistible fist of Russia



The results of the combat use of high-precision complex "Caliber" in Syria showed that with Russia you should talk to "you"

Without power and its demonstration of the world can not be achieved. This axiom from time to time needs to be confirmed, which became the missile attacks of the Caliber complex on the Daesh facilities in Syria. Russia showed one of its "fists" with which it can protect itself and those who ask her about it. In the West, this fact has sobered up some, and "humiliated and insulted countries and peoples have received hope," as reported by the Russian Planet.

Sudden and effective in all respects, the result aroused great interest in this. arms. Numerous responses sometimes exaggerated or, on the contrary, diminished the possibilities of this modern and really formidable complex. Today, the passion around Caliber has somewhat subsided, which makes it possible to more objectively evaluate this miracle weapon and some features of its use.

Complex


"Caliber" is a universal complex of missile weapons, sea, ground and air-based. It is designed to defeat cruise missiles (KR) surface, submarine and ground targets in a wide range of range in any weather and climate conditions day and night with strong fire and electronic countermeasures of the enemy. In the West, "Caliber" under the code SS-N-27 is eloquently called the "Asheater" (Sizzler). System integrator and manufacturer of the complex - Concern Morinformsystem-Agat OJSC.

An important feature of the complex is the multivariate execution. Today, its carriers can be surface ships ("Caliber-NK"), submarines ("Caliber-PL") and high-passable cars ("Caliber-M"). In 2014, it became known about the deployment in Novorossiysk of diesel-electric submarines with cruise missiles of the “Caliber” type. In addition to modern, the “Caliber” will be installed on most Soviet-built surface ships of the Russian Navy during their modernization.

Of particular interest is the container version ("Caliber-K") of the performance of the complex in standard 20-and 40-foot containers. In this embodiment, it is almost impossible to recognize the combat complex, which ensures high secrecy of the delivery of the Caliber to the intended combat area.

In the export version under the general name Club complex of the above-water (Club-N, Club-U), underwater (Club-S), coastal (Club-M) and container (Club-K) performance is sold abroad. The characteristics of the Caliber known today repeat the possibilities of export options.

Missiles

Another important feature of the complex is the presence of a wide range of missiles for various purposes and characteristics (the manufacturer is the Novator Design Bureau). This provides high flexibility and adaptability of the use of Caliber, taking into account the existing conditions and capabilities. For obvious reasons, the characteristics of the CD of the “Caliber” family for “internal use” are not communicated or are presented in the most general form. Known data refer only to export performance missiles.

Types of missiles are determined by the purpose and features of their use. This is the rocket of 533РТЭ54) goals. They can be placed in transport-launch containers / cups or run from standard torpedo tubes; the letter "E" means the export version.

The export missiles with 1,2 – 2,3 t mass can hit targets at a distance from 40 to 300 kilometers with a high-explosive (cassette) penetrating type warhead with 200 – 450 kg. CUs have a near-subsonic (supersonic) speed on a marching (final) section of the flight trajectory, which is carried out at low altitudes above the water (10 – 20 m) and earth (50 – 150 m) surface in the rounding mode of the terrain. These features, combined with navigation systems, anti-missile maneuver and homing head (on the final leg of the flight) reduce the chance of survival to almost zero.

And one more important feature. The Calibra missiles are equipped with a unique small-sized engine of the Rybinskie Motors scientific-production association: a travel bag-sized unit can easily be lifted by two people.


Model of anti-ship missile 3М-54E. Photo: wikipedia.org

Feature of application

The defeat of ground targets of militants in Syria was the first combat use of the Caliber complex and real proof of its capabilities. The first two group attacks on ground targets at a range of at least 1,5 thousand km were delivered by four Caspian ships flotilla. On the night of October 7 and November 20, their Caliber-NK naval systems fired 26 and 18 3M14 missiles, respectively. The third blow with four missiles on December 8 of the same year from the underwater position was delivered by the Rostov-on-Don submarine (project 636) from the Mediterranean Sea. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, all designated targets were hit.

Thus, the reports on the range of the KR 3М14 type in 2,6 – 3 thousand km correspond to the real characteristics. Consequently, our “Caliber” is a strategic weapon and is not inferior, but in terms of distance and superior to the American Tomahawk KR. Western media reports about shortfalls to the goals of at least four missiles, our Ministry of Defense categorically denied. At the same time, it would not be superfluous to recall dozens of American "Tomahawks" that did not reach the targets and fell on the territory of other countries during the military operations of the United States and NATO in Iraq and Yugoslavia.

"Caliber" confirmed the high ability to overcome the enemy's missile defense. His missiles passed through the air defense zones of Iran and Iraq, which had been warned in advance, and were not detected by the intelligence services of western countries. At the same time, the most effective Turkish air defense system in the region did not see them either, our KR’s area of ​​responsibility went around a safe route.

According to the British The Daily Telegraph, if there was a similar complex in Iraq, the US invasion of the Persian Gulf could have failed. A serious concern was expressed by the Pentagon, where the presence of the “Caliber” (Club) in other countries is regarded as a destabilization of the situation in the world (read, a threat to the USA).

The interest in Caliber abroad was stepped up by the low price combined with real results. A competitive complex can be installed on a number of samples of military equipment of Western production. Today, Club of various modifications are India, China, Algeria and Vietnam. There is a high probability of its appearance in other countries.

conclusions


It is clear that the widespread use of expensive "Caliber" on the objects of the militants is unwise. But in this case, the positive results of political and military significance are obvious: Russia has shown the presence of effective strategic weapons, which will be applied without hesitation if necessary. In addition, the results of use in combat conditions confirmed the characteristics of the weapon, shown during tests and exercises, which, for all their seriousness, cannot be compared with the conditions of the combat situation.

As experience shows, it should be more often, but within reasonable limits, to demonstrate the capabilities of your weapon. Especially those who smile sweetly through clenched teeth and clench their fists in the hope of delivering a sudden blow. For this it is not a sin to use and organized information leakage.
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  1. Mera joota
    Mera joota 14 February 2016 06: 43
    -74 qualifying.
    It is clear that the widespread use of expensive "Caliber" on the objects of the militants is unreasonable

    Well, if it was possible to shoot, for a demonstration, but why did they need re-launches?

    Russia has shown the availability of effective strategic weapons, which without hesitation will be used if necessary.

    NATO experts saw the low reliability of domestic TKRs, many missiles simply did not reach the target, some fell on the territory of Iran, some in Syria itself.

    The author naively believes that "Caliber" will become a kind of bogey with whom "we will threaten the Swedes", but this is not so. NATO has known about our TKR for a long time, since the times of the USSR, the fact that they became a discovery for the domestic man in the street is probably the trouble of our propaganda.
    1. bracket
      bracket 14 February 2016 07: 52
      19
      envy further ... do not choke on the poison
      1. Army1
        Army1 14 February 2016 13: 26
        +3
        Quote: Staffa
        envy further ... do not choke on the poison

        And you do not envy states with 4 nuclear submarines with 150 KR, is this enough to drive Germany into the Stone Age?
        1. bve56
          bve56 15 February 2016 12: 22
          +2
          Silly remark, especially the first comment! They have cruise missiles from the last millennium (short-range tamahawks)! The West, for example Germany, wrote about the amazing accuracy of the "caliber" and the shocking range with bypassing missile defense systems. The western estimate of the Caliber ranges from 4000 to 5000 km. This news was even advertised by America, which is very fond of finding fault with Russian. But there is no trick against scrap. They generally wrote that Russia has restored its impressionable power since the times of the USSR. By the way, only about two months ago I saw a turning point in the American press, which was simply forced to accept the fact of superiority in many industries, including the quietest submarines in the world, which simply abolish the meaning of aircraft carriers at the moment, since they can destroy them with impunity, and this despite protection by support ships from nuclear submarines. The caliber is also launched from submarines, as well as bombers, including supersonic ones, as well as from small ships. I have not seen a more dumb comment here on the site than the first one after the article.

          Serge Babkov
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 16 February 2016 17: 59
            -1
            Quote: bve56
            Stupid remark, especially the first comment

            your remark is much dumber.
            Quote: bve56
            They have cruise missiles of the past millennium (tamahawks with short range)

            2500km do you think this is not enough?

            I think the only reason that it makes no sense to make the range longer is the approach time, because The Kyrgyz Republic is subsonic, and the states are developing a global impact program using promising hypersonic complexes.
            We are also working in this direction, but so far I have not seen any results. States have tested with varying success.
            Quote: bve56
            Even America advertised this news, which is very fond of Russian fault.

            As a rule, Americans like to overstate ours, because this is a great way to develop Russophobia and squeeze dough from Congress and allies in NATO.

            Quote: bve56
            They generally wrote that Russia’s impressive power has been restored since the days of the USSR. By the way, only about two months ago I saw a turning point in the American press, which simply had to accept the fact of superiority in many industries, including the quietest submarines in the world, which simply abolish the meaning of aircraft carriers at the moment, since they can destroy them with impunity, and this despite protection by support ships with nuclear submarines. The caliber also starts from submarines, as well as bombers, including supersonic ones, as well as from small ships. I have not seen a dumber comment here on the site than the first after the article.

            complete nonsense ... what are you talking about?
            what nafig power since the days of the USSR ???? that we didn’t come close. and you still write about the stupidity of others ???? as the saying goes: “if the enemies scold us, then we are going the right way.” and according to your words, they praised us. during the "friendship" with the West, the ruble was 19 each (there was such a short time), but our energy resources almost all went to private shops with very dubious owners.
            and you also write about the quietest submarines, but they, like the best tanks and aircraft of the 5th generation, are not yet or are in a single quantity, and when they will be, a huge question. But there are already problems with the gas turbine engine and they are stupidly slowing down the fleet rearmament program, today the article was about the fact that we have a banal problem with shells of large calibers for artillery, and in general with cartridges everything is also creaking. The developments are good, but there is little in the hardware. Fortunately, at least due to export, some models were brought to mind and now we can take them into service (su-30cm, diesel-electric submarine "Varshavyanka" 667, the same calibers). so think .... and then tear your throat!
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 14 February 2016 07: 55
      +9
      Quote: Mera Joota
      The author naively believes that "Caliber" will become a kind of bogeyman with whom "we will threaten the Swedes"

      In fact, for this purpose, Russia has a strategic nuclear forces. Well, Caliber is a long fist. As our commander said. Who do we need and so get it.Something like this.
      1. rumor_today
        rumor_today 15 February 2016 03: 43
        -3
        You are a victim of frantic base propaganda.
    3. n.kolesnichenko
      n.kolesnichenko 14 February 2016 12: 26
      14
      Well, where are the fallen missiles? Probably exhibited at an exhibition in Ankara or Riyadh?
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 14 February 2016 18: 54
        +4
        Quote: n.kolesnichenko
        Well, where are the fallen missiles? Probably exhibited at an exhibition in Ankara or Riyadh?

        What do you take higher in the State Department itself!
      2. Simple
        Simple 14 February 2016 23: 17
        0
        And how many "tomahawks" that have fallen (and there are more than 2000 of them) are displayed at the arena? Monino?
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    4. Army1
      Army1 14 February 2016 13: 23
      12
      Again cheers am , I will explain for those who are not in the subject. Everyone was wildly surprised at the use by Russia of the SHIP-EARTH cruise missiles from the SURFACE SHIP; there was nothing similar in the USSR, except for SUBMARines (Grenade missile) !!! good And I don’t understand where the stupid shouts like "SHA WE ARE ALL PARVOYOY !!!" With me 10 Carriers-ships with 8 cells, which are also used for missiles caliber PLO and anti-ship missiles, WE STRUGGLE wassat What can I say about the United States, which has 80 carriers with 90 cells each, can we give them right away ??? BUT now they will call me an envious person. And yet, everyone apparently forgot that Russia has Strategic Aviation and 20 Strategists can fire a salvo of 200 missiles, which could well destroy the air defense of Turkey itself. But we are all Going Caliber. wassat Although the rocket is excellent, especially the anti-ship option !!!
      1. Army1
        Army1 14 February 2016 13: 48
        +1
        Well, another vegetable put a minus, because the truth does not fit with his world of illusions
        1. Anton Gavrilov
          Anton Gavrilov 14 February 2016 14: 11
          +5
          Put a plus to smooth someone's stupidity.

          This is the top var, relax, here stupid cheers-patriotism in the order of ordinary things unfortunately.
          1. kush62
            kush62 14 February 2016 19: 46
            +7
            Anton Gavrilov (1) Today, 14:11 ↑
            Put a plus to smooth someone's stupidity.

            This is the top var, relax, here stupid cheers-patriotism in the order of ordinary things unfortunately.

            What I like is that each successive one here is an order of magnitude smarter and more patriotic than the previous one. There is no limit to perfection. And the announcement of the supply of plus sounds like a feat.
            And if in essence, then people rejoice at the opportunity to adequately respond when it becomes necessary to "friends and partners" to their bad deeds. Not all professionals, not all in the subject. But for the Motherland and the armed forces, there is another reason to rejoice. It is clear that when they begin to scatter atomic bombs left and right. this is overkill.
        2. Anton Gavrilov
          Anton Gavrilov 14 February 2016 14: 20
          +4
          If we talk about the caliber as a whole, then yes, for us this is a huge step forward, and the tendency for ships to enter service with them cannot but rejoice.

          But! There are very few carriers with it, and so far they have no significant influence on the balance of power. For all that we have with them is: 1 11661 and 3 21631 in the Caspian Sea, each with 8 each. This maximum can be used here 32 missiles.

          At the Black Sea Fleet, 2 21631, this year there will be 2-3 11356, as well as 8 on each, there are also 2 Varshavyanki, of whom there will be 4,3 this year — I will say so, I’ll go there very soon ( wink ), Vary of pieces on 6 can carry, but more than 4, as recorded in official data, the RND salvo confirms this. Until the end of the year there will be about 76 missiles at a time, unfortunately about the second three 11356, well, you can definitely forget about the two .

          On the Federation Council there is only 885 having 24-32 pieces, and there are 1 22350 16 pieces, until the end of this decade there will be at best 1 22350 and 1-2 885. That is all there will be 40-52 missiles in 2020 -80, let's see how 94 goes.

          There are no carriers on the BF from the word at all, as well as on the Pacific Fleet, but alas, there is not much that is on other TVDs ... So it's too early to rejoice.
          1. stas132
            stas132 14 February 2016 20: 56
            +3
            Please enlighten how many high-explosive fragmentation rockets do I need to put an airfield out of action? How many airfields do Turkey have, for example?
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 17 February 2016 09: 54
              -1
              I think a dozen is enough! correct if I am wrong!
              in Turkey, the main thing is to shy away from Ijirlik, but there the Afrikans are sitting. and the base is strategic.
              I think if the Turks decide on a gamble, then everything that is there will be relocated. ours are unlikely to work on it, it will definitely be world 3.
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 14 February 2016 19: 00
        +2
        Quote: Army1
        With less than 10 Ship Carriers with 8 cells,

        Is it really TOLD about container performance in vain? Let them stand even on wagons, even on dry cargo ships! And even the announced performance characteristics (export) allow us to create a lot of headaches for our sworn "partners"!
        1. stas132
          stas132 14 February 2016 20: 57
          0
          I apologize for the minus, it seems that I accidentally clicked on the tablet.
    5. Allech28-2
      Allech28-2 14 February 2016 21: 02
      +5
      Quote: Mera Joota
      NATO experts saw the low reliability of domestic TKRs, many missiles simply did not reach the target, some fell on the territory of Iran, some in Syria itself.

      As always, bare words .. One, one fact, at least !!! It’s interesting that there are videos with flying calibers, but there aren’t any fallen ones. Your idle talk, in an era when everyone has a camera in their pocket, is ridiculous, and sometimes disgusting becomes.
      1. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 14 February 2016 23: 08
        +1
        but there are no fallen


        Yes, we just need to google our resources.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO8aTpp6Jeg
        1. sevsor
          sevsor 15 February 2016 04: 22
          +1
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO8aTpp6Jeg
          What you propose to look at as proof of the crashed "Caliber" is actually translated as "monitoring the remains of a military aircraft that exploded in the atmosphere of the city of Al-Numan", which is located in Syria and is currently under the control of ISIS bandits. It turns out the missiles "fell" where they should))))
      2. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 14 February 2016 23: 13
        0
        but there are no fallen


        I remember exactly the video where the Iranians put the rest of the fallen X-101 into a truck, but it is signed in Arabic, you will find it.
        1. sevsor
          sevsor 15 February 2016 04: 28
          +1
          So if you don't remember exactly where the video comes from, what kind of trash is shown in the photo, you can't translate from Arabic even with the help of the simplest translator "Googlt Translator", why post such "evidence", dear?))))
      3. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 14 February 2016 23: 16
        0
        So sho, if you did not specifically see, and if their leadership of this "honest" "" "" non-propagandistic "" "" resource did not publish an article with the appropriate analysis, this does not mean that this fact did not exist, our missiles fell, alas in a single quantity.
    6. Allech28-2
      Allech28-2 14 February 2016 21: 02
      0
      Quote: Mera Joota
      NATO experts saw the low reliability of domestic TKRs, many missiles simply did not reach the target, some fell on the territory of Iran, some in Syria itself.

      As always, bare words .. One, one fact, at least !!! It’s interesting that there are videos with flying calibers, but there aren’t any fallen ones. Your idle talk, in an era when everyone has a camera in their pocket, is ridiculous, and sometimes disgusting becomes.
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  2. sa-ag
    sa-ag 14 February 2016 07: 47
    +6
    "... The defeat of militant ground targets in Syria was the first combat use of the Caliber complex and a real proof of its capabilities."
    Well, the fact that the missile hit the target does not mean all its capabilities, did it fly in a difficult jamming environment or did it overcome the air defense zone? No, this is a landfill situation, and at the landfill it is possible and more difficult to organize conditions.
    1. n.kolesnichenko
      n.kolesnichenko 14 February 2016 12: 29
      10
      Of course yes" !!! The USA used their "Tomahawks" in a "VERY" difficult jamming situation in Iraq and Yugoslavia !!!
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 14 February 2016 18: 19
        0
        Quote: n.kolesnichenko
        Of course yes" !!! US used its Tomahawks in a "VERY" difficult jamming environment in Iraq

        In Iraq, yes, jamming took place to be
        1. sivuch
          sivuch 14 February 2016 23: 27
          +2
          do not share the source?
          And then I read that only one side applied the interference, and so intensively that there were problems for their communications
  3. igorka357
    igorka357 14 February 2016 07: 49
    +7
    It is not clear why they minus a person, neither the amers, nor any other less developed country with good armed forces, our "calibers" will not shake their knees! Of course, for Syria, Libya, Iraq, or Afghanistan, this is a formidable weapon, but now for Turkey. ..you just can't imagine how many of them need to be sent there on their own to inflict tangible damage on it! The Americans sent thousands of axes to Iraq and that the Russians got scared and died of fear of the "tomahawks", but no! -weapon, besides, we have it for a long time! Our irresistible fist, this is our triad of Strategic Missile Forces, here its Americans piss mom do not worry, in all other technological terms, they unfortunately surpassed us! And I'm just glad that we now have such a ruler in power who is not afraid to demonstrate the strength of his state to protect it, but as you have noticed, combat readiness is increasing not only by "calibers", because nothing can be solved by them alone! You need to look at things realistically, and not be stuck in vain, otherwise we will lose!
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 14 February 2016 09: 09
      12
      You shouldn’t particularly strain (this is about the process of degrading the characteristics of our missiles) and there’s no need to worry about the quantity — there is someone. Here you have to compare and improve memory:
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 14 February 2016 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: igorka357
      It is necessary to look at things realistically, and not to idle in vain, otherwise we will lose!

      Here you are right, we look wider,
      Quote: Mera Joota
      but why did they need re-launches?

      We look. For example, I assume that there was a break-in of missiles and other equipment for working at long distances. Until the launch of the rockets, at least I had not heard about the work of the Caliber at such distances. This is tantamount to an experimental jet, used and tested in sound. And how will he behave in supersonic, no one is interested? all the more, it is possible to test without hiding, not by blankets, but by explosives.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 14 February 2016 09: 23
        +3
        Here are interesting features of the launches of "Caliber" and "Tomahawks" at different times (by the way, nothing is said about any thousands of axes fired across Iraq, apparently the axes were "stupid")
        http://www.newscom.md/rus/informatcionnaya-vojna-utki-krilatie-raketi-i-nepriyat

        nosti-s-nimi.html
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 14 February 2016 12: 15
          +2
          I thought you would understand what I am talking about "thousands" figuratively ..))
        2. opus
          opus 14 February 2016 19: 36
          +4
          Quote: yuriy55
          Here are interesting features of the launches of "Caliber" and "Tomahawks" at different times (by the way, nothing is said about any thousands of axes fired across Iraq, apparently the axes were "stupid")

          ? found on what to refer to: "Mandarin Studio" - Moldovan news (well, they know everything about Moldova)


          On September 10, 1995, with the USS Normandy, 13 Tomahawk missiles were launched from the center of the Adriatic Sea against key Bosnian Serb air defense systems (Radar) (Operation Decisive Force).
          On September 3, 1996, 44 UGM-109 and AGM-86 B-52 cruise missiles were launched, for air defense targets in southern Iraq.
          On August 20, 1998, about 75 Tomahawk missiles were launched simultaneously in two separate areas in Afghanistan and Sudan in retaliation for the bombing of US embassies by al-Qaeda.
          16 декабря 1998 года 415 missiles The Tomahawk were launched at key Iraqi sites during Operation Desert Fox.
          In early 1999, 218 Tomahawk missiles were launched from American ships and an English submarine during Allied Force operation against key targets in Serbia and Montenegro.
          In October 2001, approximately 50 Tomahawk missiles hit targets in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom).
          During the invasion of Iraq in 2003 more 802 missiles Tomahawk were released at key Iraqi sites.
          On December 17, 2009, two Tomahawk missiles were fired at targets in Yemen.
          On March 19, 2011, 124 Tomahawk missiles were launched by the United States and British troops (112 American, 12 British) against at least 20 Libyan targets around Tripoli and Misurata.
          As of March 22, 2011, 159 UGM-109s were fired by the United States and Britain from ships against Libyan targets.
          On March 19, 2011, in conjunction with other US Navy vessels, the USS Stout struck Tomahawk cruise missiles at Libyan air defense as part of Operation Odyssey Dawn
          September 23, 2014, 47 Tomahawk missiles were launched from the USS Arly Burke and USS Philippine Sea, from international waters in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, against LIVE targets in Syria in the immediate vicinity of Ar Raqqah, Deir ez-Zor, Hasek and Abu Kemal, and against the Khorasan group in Syria west of Aleppo.


          415+> 802 => 1217 units.
          Not "thousands" but more than a thousand(only for Iraq), if EVERYTHING is counted, THOUSAND THOUSANDS, 100%
          ============================================

          United States Navy (excluding USAIF) for 2015 has ammunition about 3,500 KR Tomahawk totaling $ 2.6 billion dollars (delivery / shipment report).
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2016 12: 17
      +3
      Quote: igorka357

      igorka357
      (8)

      Today, 07: 49

      ↓ New


      It is not clear why a person was minus, neither amers, nor any other more or less developed country with good armed forces, will not shake knees from our "calibers"


      And what, "Caliber" can not carry nuclear weapons? Contradict yourself.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 14 February 2016 15: 39
        +2
        Even the artillery has special warheads and what, everyone considers the guns a super-weapon))?
      2. papik09
        papik09 14 February 2016 17: 00
        -1
        Quote: siberalt
        Contradict yourself.

        Are you Zhvanetsky? No? Why do you write like that ... "bomb yourself" ...
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2016 12: 17
      0
      Quote: igorka357

      igorka357
      (8)

      Today, 07: 49

      ↓ New


      It is not clear why a person was minus, neither amers, nor any other more or less developed country with good armed forces, will not shake knees from our "calibers"


      And what, "Caliber" can not carry nuclear weapons? Contradict yourself.
    5. n.kolesnichenko
      n.kolesnichenko 14 February 2016 12: 31
      0
      In Turkey there are more WORTHY objects for striking them with "Calibers" !!!
  4. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 14 February 2016 07: 50
    +7
    Russia has shown the availability of effective strategic weapons, which without hesitation will be used if necessary.
    Now these weapons need to be placed on carriers (especially submarines) as much as possible. Accumulate to organize a series of sequential launches. At the same time, the options for container placement of the "Ashbringer" will come in handy.
    This is so that bad thoughts do not wander into Anglo-Saxon heads "foolishly". yes
    1. mark1
      mark1 14 February 2016 08: 54
      +3
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Now this weapon needs to be placed on carriers (especially submarines) as much as possible.

      Not a bad option, in my opinion, - placing "calibers" on cruisers pr 1164, 1144 instead of part of the air defense missile system "Fort", their weight and size characteristics are close and the SU, given the availability of container options, will also not be so difficult to attach. Or, also an option for nothing, use the Sevmorput lighter carrier
  5. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 14 February 2016 08: 02
    +5
    Of course, it's pointless to frighten NATO with conventional weapons. But here are the "Caliber" and "Iskander" with special. Warheads are another matter. I am afraid that in the case of a serious batch with the same Turkey, it will not do without them.
  6. 31rus
    31rus 14 February 2016 08: 47
    +8
    Dear, once again about the main thing, "Caliber", an excellent complex, but not a panacea, besides, we only caught up with the United States, in this type of weapons, but more elegant and better, but only caught up, it is still necessary to re-equip all ships undergoing modernization, being The KR "Caliber", just like the American ax, can be knocked out by planes and air defense, but the use of fighters in Syria, the very thing, a strike into the depths of ISIS, where no one is waiting for a strike, against reconnoitered targets is quite logical and justified. especially if these targets are on the border or controlled by a "friendly country", which is why "Caliber" is a weapon for widespread use, but what about the price, tell me, is it cheap now?
  7. blizart
    blizart 14 February 2016 08: 58
    +4
    How is it that the combat use is spinning the brand. Who, besides experts and fans of weapons, knew about it before the launch? And now - "Caliber"! Sounds!
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 14 February 2016 09: 15
      +2
      Quote: blizart
      How combat use spins a brand... Who, besides experts and fans of weapons, knew about it before the launch? And now - "Caliber"! Sounds!


      I would note effective combat use. A massive launch of 26 missiles !!! Can someone give a similar example here? Not including volleys MLRS ...
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 14 February 2016 12: 22
        +4
        Of course ... it's easy! On one day, two American boats threw 14 and 7 axes into Iraq, respectively, on the second day 6 and 7 axes, and this is in 1991, so of course our Armed Forces will overwhelm everyone as before, you just don't have to mindlessly break into battle, and idle with shouts of hurray "caliber" to rush into battle! Improve, bring to mind, develop new ... and, rivet, rivet, so that there would be something to answer to all presumptuous mongrels like half a Europa, and about amers our dear Strategic Missile Forces will be taken care of!
  8. Arkan
    Arkan 14 February 2016 09: 20
    +2
    "Caliber" is great !!! But, one cannot stop there, because the Anglo-Saxons must be kept in eternal fear.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 February 2016 09: 23
    +5
    The fact that we have these missiles, and they are better than the meritos, is already good. Stamp them more and more. I think it will come in handy.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 February 2016 11: 46
      +6
      Americans in parallel with the Tomahawks, who have cheapened
      for mass production, we developed a new generation of KR -
      stealth AGM-129.
      So it’s especially impossible to relax in Russia.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 14 February 2016 12: 24
        0
        Do not tell me the combat use of AGM was at least once .. then that's it ..))
        1. opus
          opus 14 February 2016 19: 47
          +5
          Quote: igorka357
          Do not tell me the combat use was at AGM at least once.

          and the KR "Caliber" did not have a single one until 2015.
          So what?
          Quote: igorka357
          then that's it ..))


          December 10, 1997 anti-ship missiles AGM-129A destroyed two unoccupied
          trailer, m equipment of the space observatory belonging to the University of Utah and the University of Tokyo ... located in the zone of "dangerous operations" (such was the excuse) of the US Army Dugway training ground.
          at a distance of 3500km with an inert warhead - excellent result



          Quote: voyaka uh
          developed and new generation KR -
          stealth AGM-129.

          ? belay


          In 1993, the missile entered service with the American strategic bombers B-52H (12 KR).

          AGM-129A manufactured 461, and how many dozens of AGM-129B, AGM-129C
          Since 2007 rockets taken off with weapons and more than 200 already sent to storage and part of the museum.


          KR were removed from the "nuclear offset" (under the contract) and placed for long-term storage by the end of 2008. The further fate of these missiles unknown yetHowever, it can be assumed that they will modified to the level of precision cruise missiles with a non-nuclear high-explosive fragmentation or penetrating warhead. (86 not enough)
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 14 February 2016 22: 36
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        developed a new generation of the Kyrgyz Republic -
        "stealth" AGM-129. So, Russia can't really relax.

        Quote: opus
        KR were removed from the "nuclear offset" (under the contract) and placed for long-term storage by the end of 2008. The further fate of these missiles is still unknown,

        Since 2007, missiles have been withdrawn from service and more than 200 have been sent for storage.
        24 April 2012 at Tinker airbase completed the destruction of the last AGM-129A.
        No luck, however ... sad
        1. opus
          opus 15 February 2016 02: 08
          +2
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          24 April 2012 at Tinker airbase completed the destruction of the last AGM-129A.

          only AGM-129A and only 395 pieces that were attributed to the 581st Missile Maintenance Squadron



          Threat and we zhurnalyugam showed destruction ONLY 27 .... of 395.
          HZ. destroyed 395 or so ...
          ZhCI 129A -35 years

          The B-52H Stratofortress is the only platform for these missiles.
          B-52 in service.

          AGM-129B, AGM-129C-no, and there are about 55-70 of them
  10. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 14 February 2016 10: 27
    +7
    No testing of any weapon will cause such shit to boil. "partners"as its combat use.
  11. King, just king
    King, just king 14 February 2016 11: 32
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    The fact that we have these missiles, and they are better than the meritos, is already good. Stamp them more and more. I think it will come in handy.


    And who said and proved that "Caliber" is better than "Ax"? According to a simplified scheme, the "ax" is already made of plastic, stuffed with filling and forward - crushed with a mass. And what will our Russian Navy be re-equipping and how? Old ships are easier to cut than to carry out deep modernization, new ones with a dick.
    Isn’t it better to create missile fields with UVP on land in such situations - the Kuril Islands, Primorye, Tatarstan, Kaliningrad, the Arctic.
    What is now happening in the press with the "Caliber" reminds me very much of the agitation about the S-300. The caliber was fired a couple of times, and the S-300 was not in any real battle, unlike the Patriot, but it is still the best in the world! And the S-400 is generally a "super-super-super", it is already in the ranks, although the missiles from the S-300, and the long-range, for which the complex was actually done, still cannot be driven away (but I do not argue, because I do not follow the information on the S-400 ).
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 14 February 2016 11: 33
    +5
    "Caliber has confirmed the high capabilities of overcoming missile defense
    enemy. "////

    Which ones? A carefully selected route that does not pass over air defense systems -
    it is right.
    But otherwise, the Caliber roughly corresponds to the Tomahawk: in speed, shape, size.
    Finding and intercepting both missiles is a lot of fun, you have to strain yourself, but it is quite possible.
  13. da Vinci
    da Vinci 14 February 2016 11: 50
    +4
    "Caliber: The Irresistible Fist of Russia". Undoubtedly, the car is good, it has something to be proud of. But before shouting "Hurray" and "the most," it is better to remember the 40s of the XX century. Even to look at the performance characteristics table published above, Caliber does not have an absolute superiority over its analogs, the parity established in the 80s has been achieved. The "Club" system is a very advanced complex, but primarily in terms of mobility and stealth (transportation). Remember the irony towards the United States - they say using tomahawks against a weak enemy is not an achievement but self-promotion. The situation is the same here. And the "trembling knees" in the Baltic countries and Scandinavia are nothing more than the desire of local politicians in the struggle for power + "drank" money for defense + singing along to NATO (i.e. the United States) + making Russia an aggressor (which received only for the fact that NATO has 30 years?). Therefore, there is no need to rest on our laurels, but to produce a sufficient number of Calibers for a possible emergency and hastily develop promising directions, otherwise when they write that it takes 2-3 years to develop a preliminary project, a prototype - 2-3 years, and tests 3-4 years , this is a crime against the state. smile
    1. Corvetkapitan
      Corvetkapitan 14 February 2016 15: 33
      +5
      The Tomahawk is an American analogue of the Soviet X-55 subsonic cruise missile, with a maximum range of 2500 km, and the Caliber surpasses both the first and the second in speed and range and, if possible, maneuver and evade interceptors. This year, it should be part of the Black Sea Fleet MRK Vyshny Volochek, it is armed with Caliber. In addition, the Black Sea Fleet should be replenished with two new submarines, Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino, which also have Caliber on board. The Northern Fleet of Russia should be replenished with the Thundering corvette, also armed with Kadibras. All these ships are now under construction. So there is no question of resting on laurels. Russophobic Latvia and others like it, and without any launches of Caliber, entered NATO and fought against Russia in Chechnya, on the side of Dudayev ...
      1. opus
        opus 15 February 2016 05: 06
        0
        Quote: Corvetkapitan
        Tomahawk, this is an American analogue of the Soviet subsonic X-55 cruise missile,

        X-55 is ONLY aviation missile (Tu-95 and Tu-160) in service since 1983

        BGM-109 Tomahawk (in service with the same since 1983)
        * Sea-based missiles SLCM: BGM-109A / ... / F, RGM / UGM-109A / ... / E / H
        * GLCM ground-based missiles (disposed of) BGM-109G
        * Airborne missiles MRASM (partially utilized): AGM-109C / H / I / J / K / L
        incl. BGM-109 Tomahawk can NOT be "analogous" to the X-55
        Quote: Corvetkapitan
        The caliber surpasses both the first and second in speed and range and, if possible, maneuver and evasion of interception means

        not superior.
        He is something close to RGM / UGM-109C Block-IIA
        Quote: Corvetkapitan
        In addition, the Black Sea Fleet should be replenished with two new submarines,

        as of January 1, 2016 the United States has more than 3500KR BGM-109 Tomahawk (surface / underwater base, excluding AGM-109A (they probably lie that they destroyed), B, C

        Carriers ... well under 100







        We have .. well, from the strength of 100 pieces (the USSR was able to afford 80-100 pieces of KS-122 (3M10)
  14. ultra
    ultra 14 February 2016 14: 23
    +6
    I suggest the author to avoid pathos headlines. hi
  15. Old26
    Old26 14 February 2016 16: 22
    +6
    Quote: Nikolay71
    Of course, it's pointless to frighten NATO with conventional weapons. But here are the "Caliber" and "Iskander" with special. Warheads are another matter. I am afraid that in the case of a serious batch with the same Turkey, it will not do without them.

    But we just forget that Tomahawks can be equipped with special warheads

    Quote: Corvetkapitan
    Tomahawk, this is an American analogue of the Soviet subsonic X-55 cruise missile, with a maximum range of 2500 km

    In fact, exactly the opposite. The Kh-55 was the Soviet counterpart of the American "tomahawk"

    Quote: Corvetkapitan
    and the caliber surpasses both the first and second in speed and range and, if possible, maneuver and evasion of interception means.

    I wonder how. So they fired at a range of about 1600 km and the conclusion is immediately made that in all respects it is superior to both the Ax and the Kh-55? What is this analysis based on? And more about evasion maneuvers. Something new in the history of the use of "Caliber"
  16. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 14 February 2016 17: 41
    +4
    An important point is that the calibers were used from small missile ships or even boats.
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 14 February 2016 19: 03
      0
      The commercial component of the launch is that they are containerized. That is, anyone can buy and put at least a seiner at least on a dry cargo ship. Or on a boat
      1. opus
        opus 15 February 2016 02: 12
        +2
        Quote: Kenneth
        That is, anyone can buy and put at least a seiner at least on a dry cargo ship. Or on a boat

        And who will give the TSU?
        Who will "sell" digital cards from launch zones to the target (not the MSC in general, but the MSC from the launch zone to the target, the MSC of the route)?
  17. sa-ag
    sa-ag 14 February 2016 18: 27
    +4
    After the use of Calibers in Turkey, they decided to "hang" AWACS, I think so not so much to control the flights of the Russian Aerospace Forces, but so that new launches of Calibers would not become such a surprise as it was the first time
  18. 3vs
    3vs 14 February 2016 19: 00
    +6
    These "toys" must be put on stream, as for the production of cartridges ...
    Time seems to be running out, production needs to be increased.
  19. Kenneth
    Kenneth 14 February 2016 19: 01
    +2
    I wonder what kind of noise is because of the Caliber. This is news: the presence of Russia in the Kyrgyz Republic. In terms of its capabilities, the Caliber roughly corresponds to the Tomahawk, even it seems not cheaper. This launch is nothing more than a PR move, both political and similarly commercial. From the point of view of the country's security, the issue is not the presence of Gauges, but among them.
  20. TOR2
    TOR2 14 February 2016 19: 46
    +1
    "Caliber" will be an important argument in modern "conversations". For example, countries A, B and C have united in a military-political alliance and have become thoroughly insolent. Further, confident of a quick victory, this company attacks country D. Country D possesses weapons of the "Caliber" type, and sets them in motion in sufficient quantities. In country A, a hydroelectric power plant is attacked, followed by a dam break. The largest chemical plant in country B is under attack. In country C, the glow from a burning oil refinery complex is clearly visible. In the economies of countries A, B and C, chaos comes + discontent of the population accustomed to a comfortable life. Realizing that the blitzkrieg was unsuccessful, and there will be no special replenishment, the united army, having rolled the blue banners, begins to move back. Here, of course, everything is simplified, but the meaning is clear.
    Therefore, we should have several hundred "calibers", and on all possible carriers ships, aircraft and railway.
    If you look closely at the "Status 6" system from the same ideology.
  21. Goauld_Baal
    Goauld_Baal 14 February 2016 22: 10
    +2
    "Caliber: The Irresistible Fist of Russia". Now, if the Russian Federation can simultaneously launch 10000 - 15000 calibers, only then can we say that there is a fist. In the meantime, you can only rely on tactical nuclear weapons. Yes, and in addition to calibers, one must also have political will.
  22. maligyn
    maligyn 14 February 2016 22: 57
    0
    I wonder if we already have electromagnetic bombs? (in relation to Turkish tanks in case of entry into Syria)
    1. opus
      opus 15 February 2016 02: 23
      +2
      Quote: maligyn
      I wonder if we already have electromagnetic bombs? (in relation to Turkish tanks in case of entry into Syria)

      Don't "worry" - there are RUBBER BOMBS (tested in China)
      Joke of the 1980s, TASS report:
      China dropped a nuclear bomb on Russia, killing 50 million people.
      Russia dropped a rubber bomb on China, killing 350 million people ....
      Remark: rubber bomb continues to jump around China


      wink
  23. kos2910
    kos2910 15 February 2016 09: 32
    0
    Quote: Army1
    10 8-cell carrier ships

    It should be taken into account that these carriers are small rocket ships, on which Tomahawks, in principle, cannot be shoved, and they can be made cheap and a lot. Amers have carriers - large ships or aircraft carriers. Do you feel the difference? How many small rocket ships do we build? And at what price? And who's stopping to stuff a lot of calibers on the same "Peter the Great" or "Moscow"? Another question is that the Amers have accumulated several thousand Tomahawks, and how many Calibers we have - maybe hundreds ...
  24. cedar
    cedar 16 February 2016 15: 19
    +1
    We have a defensive doctrine ... That is, everything that is available will fly back, and this is not only "Caliber". Over there in Syria in smart hands and old Soviet bombs precision weapons. As the ancestors instructed - "To fight not by numbers, but by skill!"