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Icebreaker "Soviet Union" can become a command center

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As part of the program for the military development of the Arctic, there was a proposal to strengthen the management system of the new element. A few days ago it became known that the Ministry of Defense was asked to modernize one of the existing nuclear icebreakers by installing special military equipment on it. After this, the ship will be able to become a new command post, which will participate in the management of the Arctic grouping of the armed forces.


Stanislav Golovinski, Deputy General Director of Rosatomflot, told about plans to re-equip the existing nuclear icebreaker 28 in January. According to the official, the state corporation Rosatom and Rosatomflot, which is part of it, suggested that the Ministry of Defense consider the possibility of creating a new mobile command post for the Arctic. The basis for this object should be the atomic icebreaker "Soviet Union".

During his recent performance in the Russian Geographical Society, S. Golovinsky noted that the Soviet Union icebreaker, owned by Rosatomflot, was decommissioned as early as 2006. When carrying out repairs and upgrades, the vessel will be able to return to service and accomplish the assigned tasks for a long time. According to the deputy general director of the operator, the restoration will extend the life of the icebreaker by two decades.



The Ministry of Defense has already received an offer from Rosatomflot, but the reaction of the military department is still unknown. The official reports of the Ministry of Defense have not yet commented on the future fate of the “Soviet Union” as a command post for the Arctic grouping. Unofficial media sources have not yet announced any information on this.

The atomic icebreaker "Soviet Union" was built according to the project 10520 "Arctic" and became the fourth vessel of its series. The icebreaker was launched in 1986 and became part of the nuclear fleet three years later. According to some reports, the draft of new vessels was developed taking into account possible military applications. For this, the design provides for various equipment for the installation of weapons and related equipment.

From the middle of the last decade, the icebreaker was preparing for repairs and upgrades, but such work took too much time. Despite the supply of new components and assemblies in 2007-2008, in 2010, the Soviet Union was withdrawn from the fleet, after which the long process of determining its future fate began. For several years the ship was in Murmansk.

Later it was decided to restore the icebreaker and return it to the service. It was reported that the full implementation of the project of restoration and modernization is associated with some difficulties, primarily with the lack of a real customer of such works. In the summer of 2014, there were official announcements about the start of work that will take several years. It was assumed that the icebreaker will be able to return to the sea in 2016-17.

Probably already during the last works, it was decided to consider the option of developing a project to upgrade an existing icebreaker in order to create a promising command post. In this case, the "Soviet Union" will be able to get a number of new equipment for communication, control and data processing, which will allow the crew to coordinate the actions of the various forces of the Arctic group.

The state of the project, for obvious reasons, is still unknown. Probably, only the most general moments were worked out and the principal possibility of the planned modernization of the icebreaker was revealed. In this case, the final decision will have to take the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. If the military department decides to rebuild the ship, then within the next few years a new mobile command center will appear in the fleet. Otherwise, the “Soviet Union” will probably return to its former service after restoration.

The icebreaker Sovetsky Soyuz has a displacement of about 23 thousand tons, a length of 150 m, a width of 30 m and a normal draft of about 10 m. The icebreakers of the Arctic project were equipped with two atomic reactors of 171 MW. Used electric motors allow the icebreaker to reach speeds up to 20 nodes. The range is limited only by stocks of provisions, etc. resources. The autonomy of the vessel reaches 7 months. The crew includes a 100 man.

From the beginning of the seventies to the end of the two thousandths, six icebreakers of project 10520 were built and commissioned: the Arctic, Siberia, Russia, the Soviet Union, Yamal and 50 years of Victory. Only the last two vessels of the series are currently in operation, one more (the “Soviet Union”) is under reconstruction. Other icebreakers are awaiting disposal. As follows from the latter News, the fourth icebreaker of the project in the foreseeable future may return to service, possibly already in a new quality. Such modernization will not only save the unique vessel, but also provide the Arctic grouping of the armed forces with modern means of communication and control.


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  1. kristofer
    kristofer 2 February 2016 06: 47
    16
    creatively. and the name of the ship would be a hint :)
    1. Sweles
      Sweles 2 February 2016 08: 51
      16
      so here ...
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 2 February 2016 16: 46
        +3
        Quote: Sveles
        so here ...

        In Soviet times, linear icebreakers in wartime were supposed to be armed and introduced into the Navy as a rank II cruiser ... And in the photo, the atomic icebreaker "Russia" during state tests ...

        But we also had combat icebreakers. These included PSKR projects 97AP and 97P ...

        In the photo PSKR project 97P "Irtysh" ...
        1. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 2 February 2016 23: 00
          +1
          Why "were"? There they are, they are serving.
    2. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 2 February 2016 09: 56
      -17 qualifying.
      Just thoughts - why is it needed?
      Looks more like "Shoigu, and Shoigu, give me money for repairs"
      1. DarkMatter
        DarkMatter 2 February 2016 14: 53
        +4
        Yes, yes, more minuses. And there’s probably nothing to write?
        In the future, it was decided to restore the icebreaker and return it to service. It was reported that the full implementation of the restoration and modernization project is associated with some difficulties, first of all, with the absence of a real customer of such work.
        According to the official, the state corporation Rosatom and Rosatomflot, which is part of it, were proposed to the Ministry of Defense ...


        And I will write. There is really no money. If the army needed such a command post, it would probably have bothered. But for some reason, Comrade Kiriyenko and ROSATOM do not want to pay for repairs, they go to Shoigu, although ROSATOM has all kinds of money.
        If such an offer had been received about 3 years ago, I would also be glad, but now there is no time for excesses. If the Ministry of Defense considers that this device is necessary, then I will only be glad, but for now, I emphasize once again, the thoughts are - why this command post? None of the minusers bothered to answer the question and explain their position, therefore I think that they want "Schaub wasO". hi
        1. scientist
          scientist 2 February 2016 17: 59
          0
          A dubious idea at the expense of a mobile KP, the admirals will not want to be on duty next to the reactor for months.
          But the icebreaker’s energy supply problem can really be solved much more efficiently than hundreds of Arctic fuel-based diesel power stations, which you’ll try to deliver to ice airfields.
          1. Vladimir Postnikov
            Vladimir Postnikov 2 February 2016 20: 15
            +2
            A dubious idea, say? How so?
            Where should the commander be? Ahead, on a white horse.
            So here.
            A control center with an admiral or several admirals breaks the ice in front, and guard ships go behind in the wake formation. And so that the command post is not attacked in the forehead, then .... here my imagination is not enough. Maybe someone from the experts will help?
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 21: 45
              -1
              Yes there are couch experts.
              Fighting bears, fighting likes, deer there.
              In general, of course, this is not a control center, but the central base of a Very Large Area. There, and not always by plane, and not guaranteed. A thing in our household is necessary. And in the forehead, from the beginning in the world, find such a forehead, a joker.
              1. Vladimir Postnikov
                Vladimir Postnikov 3 February 2016 01: 13
                +3
                Appeal to you to a stranger is the first sign of a boor.
                I won’t even talk about the content. Often boors are nonsense. Next to the boor, a couch expert is a lamp of thought. The boorish patriots are sure that it is only Russian submarines that plow the expanses of the Arctic, and only Russian submarines carry numerous cruise missiles.
                Well, God bless them, with boors.
          2. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 2 February 2016 23: 01
            +4
            "... the admirals will not want to be on duty next to the reactor for months ..." - the admiral to the admiral, however.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 21: 36
        -4
        Go take a walk, do not bother uncles.
  2. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 2 February 2016 06: 52
    22
    It is pleasant to hear: "The icebreaker SOVETSKY SOYUZ is a new command post for the command and control of the Arctic group of the Russian armed forces." Plans to re-equip the atomic icebreaker - to life!
  3. O_s_c_a_R
    O_s_c_a_R 2 February 2016 07: 49
    14
    Just do not rename, leave the name. Let it be a reminder to the present and future enemies
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 2 February 2016 21: 19
      +3
      Good name Soviet Union
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 February 2016 07: 53
    +1
    It would be too good to guard such a command post.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 2 February 2016 08: 55
      +6
      Quote: aszzz888
      It would be too good to guard such a command post.

      Two or three URO destroyers, a pair of multipurpose nuclear submarines, an aircraft carrier and a DVKD (just in case), and you can command the Arctic Grouping! smile
      Although the ship with the same name must be in the Navy!
      IMHO
      1. FID
        FID 2 February 2016 09: 06
        +7
        Yes, who snoops into high latitudes !!! Where the icebreaker floats, what destroyers and frigates ....
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 2 February 2016 09: 33
          +3
          Snooping around, just like - aviation, submarines. And on the icebreaker, the means of dealing with them, it seems, are not provided ...
          1. FID
            FID 2 February 2016 10: 29
            +1
            Quote: engineer74
            Snooping around, just like - aviation, submarines.

            Name who, besides the USSR, mastered navigation in the circumpolar regions ????
            1. engineer74
              engineer74 2 February 2016 11: 58
              +3
              EMNIP, the first submarine surfaced at the North Pole was American ... sad
              I don’t tell you about aviation. smile
              1. FID
                FID 2 February 2016 12: 28
                +4
                Quote: engineer74
                EMNIP, the first submarine surfaced at the North Pole was American ...
                I don’t tell you about aviation.

                I'm not talking about ascent, but about NAVIGATION ... And about aviation, Americans DO NOT FLY in high latitudes ... And the vaunted GPS does not work there, believe me the old ....
            2. igordok
              igordok 2 February 2016 12: 44
              10
              Quote: SSI
              Name who, besides the USSR, mastered navigation in the circumpolar regions ????

              Whose Arctic?
    2. common man
      common man 2 February 2016 09: 05
      +2
      It is necessary to guard any command post. But this man will make his way to any place in the Arctic, even to the North Pole. And he will lead others.
    3. da Vinci
      da Vinci 2 February 2016 11: 08
      +3
      Nuclear ships need to be guarded constantly. wink
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 February 2016 13: 10
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      It would be too good to guard such a command post.

      The nuclear icebreaker itself is not a small ship, and if there is such a command post, not only communication equipment, but also weapons will be installed on board the ship.
      According to some reports, the draft of new vessels was developed taking into account possible military applications. For this, the design provides for various equipment for the installation of weapons and related equipment.
  5. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 2 February 2016 08: 12
    +5
    Quote: Mangel Alys
    It is pleasant to hear: "The icebreaker SOVETSKY SOYUZ is a new command post for the command and control of the Arctic group of the Russian armed forces." Plans to re-equip the atomic icebreaker - to life!

    I agree to all 100%!
  6. qwert
    qwert 2 February 2016 08: 15
    +8
    Yes, give it a drink, after the renovation will be renamed. I would even bet 500 rubles that the name will not be left. Although, of course, I'm for the "Soviet Union". I just do not believe the current administration, which announces various de-Stalinisations and blames Lenin for the collapse of the USSR.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 2 February 2016 09: 03
      +5
      There is a curious nuance: in 1986 it was named after the Country, and now the memory of the Country, it turns out?
      You can’t rename it, we’ll look like Ov ...
    2. FID
      FID 2 February 2016 09: 07
      +5
      I support you !!!
  7. jonht
    jonht 2 February 2016 08: 38
    0
    So you don’t have to place anything there, the main thing is to say loudly, they say that he’s ... and let him follow and hunt for him, but the real one will be quiet and not noticeably ply in the other direction ....
  8. Pig
    Pig 2 February 2016 08: 46
    +4
    "" the project of new ships was developed taking into account possible military use ""
    ALL nuclear powered ships were designed with military use in mind
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 2 February 2016 10: 11
      +2
      Quote: Pig
      ALL nuclear powered ships were designed with military use in mind

      Not only nuclear powered ships. Linear river-sea icebreakers of the Kapitan Krutov series were originally equipped with standard devices for installing artillery and small arms.
      1. spravochnik
        spravochnik 2 February 2016 11: 36
        +3
        The projects of almost all civil courts in the USSR envisaged their use in the interests of the Navy in the threatened period.
  9. Idiot
    Idiot 2 February 2016 11: 19
    +3
    If all icebreakers are equipped with anti-ship missiles and air defense systems with the appropriate guidance and control systems and introduced into the Navy, then, along with the bases of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the Arctic, we need not worry about the northern strategic direction. Disputes about Arctic shelves will subside. And the name, in my opinion, is so symbolic that it must be left.
  10. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx 2 February 2016 11: 53
    +2
    Icebreakers of the 10520 project of the Arctic series - there were 4 pcs. the best in the world at that time, since no one crawled to the joint venture, except for them, in such a record short time. At the moment, there also seems to be no alternative. The boats are beautiful. Autonomy is limited by products and resources - since there is a desalination plant of its own .. But you can throw food even by helicopter ..
  11. 31rus
    31rus 2 February 2016 12: 05
    +2
    Dear, there is something to think about, if already making the command post it is "universal", that is, the ability to transform into any icebreaker, ship, the nuclear-powered ship itself is more an economic question, which is better and more economically profitable to reanimate or build a new promising icebreaker
  12. oxotnuk86
    oxotnuk86 2 February 2016 13: 31
    +3
    I agree with "engineer 74" you need such a com. a point with provision and autonomy for 7 months in the Novaya Zemlya zone and the 2nd with provision in the Bering Strait area. This is how we will designate the zone of our interests more precisely, the borders of Russia in the Arctic.
  13. AAV
    AAV 2 February 2016 13: 40
    +1
    I think the idea of ​​using an icebreaker as a KP is not unique. All the same, the main task of vessels of this class is to ensure the navigation of other ships in high latitudes, and especially along the Northern Sea Route.
    Among civilian vessels there are ice class vessels (the same dry cargo vessels) designed for navigation in ice. It may be more appropriate to develop a project for a specialized vessel of this class, but exclusively for military purposes.
  14. Starik72
    Starik72 2 February 2016 14: 55
    +2
    I am not an expert in this matter, but I think that the icebreaker is a peaceful vessel, and it is necessary for escorting vessels of all types in the most difficult conditions of the Northern Sea Route. But they need to provide the best protection, because during the war they will try to destroy them first of all. And for the command post, to build a heavy ice class vessel that can go along the NSR, and of course with excellent protection, and to disguise it among civilian vessels easier. And the SOVIET UNION icebreaker will be repaired, and when it will serve its time, put up as a MONUMENT and in honor of the Great country, destroyed (I will write by idiots, they will apparently be deleted anyway) by scum.
  15. TTX
    TTX 2 February 2016 15: 01
    0
    Rosatomflot has no money why not accept the proposal and it is not necessary to use the icebreaker as a KP. We are waiting for what the President of the Russian Geographical Society will say.
  16. corporal
    corporal 2 February 2016 16: 04
    0
    I don’t know how justified the KP is to place on an icebreaker. Let it be mobile, but it’s like an eyesore in the middle of the icy desert. One good missile with a JBL, and u ..... ..... The Arctic group is beheaded. request
  17. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 2 February 2016 18: 39
    +1
    Ship 30 years old - it's time to scrape! Reasons: 1- Armament planned to be deployed 40 years ago is not relevant in our time. 2- Modernization of the nuclear power plant of a development ship of the 60's is a step backward both for industry and the Navy. 3- If you look at the map of the Arctic Ocean, it becomes clear that the KP of the Arctic grouping should be on Cape Chelyuskin or Severnaya Zemly. (What kind of KP, if it will be in Murmansk, then in Vladik - repairs, maintenance and change of crew with the duty nobody will cancel the shift).
    But a modern nuclear icebreaker with the use of stealth technology and modular placement of weapons, depending on the task at hand, is very necessary. And to conduct a group of warships along the NSR to strengthen the fleets, and to intimidate with "Calibers" from the Pole, and any landing operation in the region is impossible without it, and intelligence in the broadest sense of the word.
  18. igorek4515
    igorek4515 2 February 2016 21: 14
    0
    And so that the command post is not attacked in the forehead, then .... here my imagination is not enough. Maybe someone from the experts will help?

    And who will attack him there in the ice "on the forehead" ..? Perhaps only polar bears :)))
  19. jekasimf
    jekasimf 2 February 2016 23: 01
    +1
    I would like to ask what weapons it will fight off the enemy’s nuclear submarines hiding under the 2-meter layer of ice? Bullshit. Will this pair of our nuclear submarines have to swim with it to protect it? !!! And that is not a guarantee.
    1. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 3 February 2016 02: 04
      +1
      The fact is that not only nuclear-powered ships (American, British and French), but now also Japanese and Korean, and German submarines with anaerobic propulsion systems can enter the Arctic. And they all carry cruise missiles. The Seawulf alone can carry up to 50 Tomahawks. And the range of the Tomahawks varies - up to 2500 km. As a result, only one Seawulf from the ice-free Barents Sea can cover half of the Arctic. And the States have three of them.
      In the Arctic, ice is not constant. Currents. Breaks and holes constantly appear. For example, one submarine of the "Virginia" type floats into the hole, launches its 12 Tomahawks, and back under the ice. And if not one?
      A couple of boats to guard here is definitely not enough. I asked the question above. Here, he returned, read the opinions. It became sad. Yes, "wiring" is with an icebreaker. On you God, that we do not fit.
  20. Olegi1
    Olegi1 3 February 2016 01: 15
    +1
    Generally speaking, the KP, moreover, of an entire group, must be disguised and well guarded. A hefty colossus in the middle of the icy desert doesn’t correspond to this at all. Not to mention the fact that it will be necessary to protect it, as AUG ... The idea is worthless, IMHO. But it would be nice to restore it as a purely icebreaker. AND in no case do not change the name!
  21. rumor_today
    rumor_today 3 February 2016 03: 07
    -3
    Another beaver cut. Someone really needs budget money, really.