Ghost Ship - Ghost Machines

As reported edition cnews.ru. Army machines - "ghosts" or Ghost Ship - this is the latest development of the American military, which can mislead any opponent. It is compared with the invincible Mongolian cavalry, thanks to which the Mongol warriors often deceived enemy shooters. The commanders of the invincible cavalry tied a stuffed straw out to horsebacks, which in turn distracted enemy fire and greatly increased the riders' chances of surviving under fire. Taking over the experience of the Mongol warriors, trying to make their army less vulnerable to the enemy, the US military created a unique Ghost Ship system - the “ghost” machine.

The Ghost Ship system controls the traditional controls of the car, which allows military equipment to move without a crew. The driver-soldier, following the indicated path, being in another vehicle, remotely controls the vehicle with the help of a controller and a display. One vehicle with HMMWV can control three drones and create the illusion that a whole platoon is present, confusing the enemy. Remote machines - "ghosts" allow not only to deceive an enemy ambush, but also to carry out dangerous missions, for example, reconnaissance and demining, the operator can control an impromptu demining machine from a distance of two and a half kilometers. In addition, they are able not only to perform the function of managed "robots", but also to return fire. This task is carried out with the help of a remotely controlled weapon module CROWS with a twelve point seven tenths of a millimeter machine gun. At the moment, this system is only being tested at the White Size test site in New Mexico, USA, where the military is trained to operate these armored protective vehicles without driver guidance.

According to the results of the first tests, they made a request from the developers for more surveillance systems to eliminate the so-called blind viewing areas, as well as GPS - in order to navigate the difficult and unfamiliar terrain. The value of this Ghost Ship project in today's American Army is enormous. According to the latest data, the US Army is already preparing to write off lightly armored HMMWV vehicles, which are already being counted on by thousands, the decommissioned vehicles cannot provide good crew protection in difficult combat mission conditions. In total, it is planned to reduce the fleet of tactical vehicles from one hundred forty-four thousand to a little over fifty thousand combat vehicles. Thanks to Ghost Ship, the accrued amount of equipment that was required to be written off can be used by the American army and become an active and cheap means of conducting any military operations, even in difficult Afghan terrain.

Comments

[slan]

Who is the author of this insanity?
And what is the deep meaning of driving in circles of four cars with one driver? The loss of these four units and the Negro-helmsman in exchange for revealing the firing position of the enemy?))
It is strange that the author stopped his stream of consciousness and did not reach the tanks and ghost aircraft carriers without a crew and ammunition. And then after all, how effectively can the enemy be misled))

[itr]

It seems to me that today I learned a lot of interesting things. I won’t be surprised that the author of this masterpiece, the so-called ESAUL, today he’s just super
Brain explosion no less

[vadimus]

Some kind of packing! Now we set the armada of old Lada Led westward

[Tyumen]

Quote: slan

And what is the deep meaning of driving in circles of four cars with one driver

Habit . They were doing this even under the Union, when, insuring themselves against our getting into mine launchers, they began to roll a mobile ICBM in a 100-kilometer circle in the Arizona desert. In response, they received * Scalpel *. Here's the answer.

[APASUS]

He drove four HMMWVs to the village and crushed the whole army of the enemy into noodles. So it's artificial intelligence!
And then these robots toss the winner into the air!
And as before they didn’t get to such an x ​​..........

[slan]

No, the whole trick here is that cars are empty like straw bales on Mongol horses and there is no other robotics on them, and this, according to the author, is not required, it’s enough to cause the enemy to be confused by the absurdity of what is happening, so that the enemy runs in a panic and told on the road about terrible ghost cars, turning in a stampede of associates.
That's because the Mongol horses, who at that time were valued more than people, grazed with bales of straw on their backs, and enemy archers shoot them, pedantically aiming at straw (about two hundred meters, or how many bows there were), spend everything then the walking Mongols leave arrows (and the pedestrian Mongol is worse than the tank, everyone knows what Asians are athletes) and the enemy surrenders in complete confusion, struck by such a devilish cunning.
Where did the author get such a "historical reconstruction", curious?))

[Anatoly]

In general, not an article, but the beginning of the script of the next American fiction action movie!

[Lech e-mine]

After a dose of heroin, the author and the black man in the car still do not see this.

[dred]

Flock of bullshit.

[snek]

Interestingly, I could not find an English-language source about "HMMWV ghost ship", although there are Russian mountains. By the way, the author forgot to insert the last paragraph from such news:
"Modern ghost machines are able not only to pretend to be controlled, but also to respond with fire. For this, a remotely controlled CROWS weapon module with a 12,7-mm machine gun is used. According to the test results, the soldiers requested more video cameras from the developers to eliminate blind vision zones, as well as GPS - so you don't get lost in the difficult Afghan terrain. "
And it’s quite possible to find the application to find such a machine, for example, send columns in front to take mines and land mines.

[slan]

Quote: snek

send columns ahead to take mines and landmines

Well, yes, it’s not so interesting not to send a mine trawl in front of the column or bother with high-explosive devices. Well, now the head vehicle of the column can now be simply blocked by radio interference, the 21st century in the yard, it’s enough to bother with grenade launchers in the last century. But what a psychological effect. The main thing is to write in capital letters that this is a ghost, otherwise not all enemies will immediately guess.
And so everything is true, a similar technique in combination with guided weapons and other devices can only be useful. And for misleading inflatable layouts there are other less costly means.

[snek]

Well, the Americans seem to be like the most belligerent country on the planet, so I think if their soldiers say "put more cameras and gpies", and not "yes we don’t need your ghostly hell," then, in theory, a useful thing in the household.

[slan]

Vague doubts torment that they say just that))
As I understand it, we are talking only about promising developments of remote control for cars. And the tactics of using ghost units are the fruit of someone's wild fantasy.

[snek]

Well, for example, in aviation, the use of drones is an ever-expanding practice in many countries. The ground equipment here is lagging behind, but I see no reason why it should not be gradually transferred first to remote, and then to automatic control.
Moreover, the article says: "The American army is already preparing to write off lightly armored HMMWV vehicles, the count of which is already in the thousands, the decommissioned vehicles cannot provide good protection for the crew in the difficult conditions of a combat mission. In total, it is planned to reduce the fleet of tactical vehicles from one hundred and forty-four thousand. up to a little over fifty thousand combat vehicles. Thanks to the Ghost Ship, the accrued amount of equipment that had to be written off can be used by the American army and become an effective and cheap means of conducting any military operations. "
Simply put - why throw away something that might come in handy

[slan]

Yes, it is not the idea of ​​using remote control on lightly armored cars that causes laughter, but the title of the article and nonsense about "creating the illusion of the presence of a whole platoon" of "ghost cars" like "invincible Mongol cavalry" with bags of hay instead of horsemen.

[snek]

Comparison with the Mongols and the idea of ​​inducing fear and horror is really nonsense, but the nonsense of the author of the article. You can find dozens of situations where the use of such machines will be appropriate. A few examples: firstly, as I said above, the use as a head machine in a column. Destruction (no matter by what means) of the head vehicle (well, preferably closing) is the ABC of attack on the convoy of any land equipment since the Second World War (and maybe even earlier). Secondly, reconnaissance of hazardous areas. You know that in such an area there is a high probability that there are militants - we are sending such a machine there. Yes, they quickly destroy it, but a drone hangs from above and they found themselves by opening fire. The enemy was found, there are no losses, except for the equipment, which is already planned for decommissioning.
If you do not see the application of something, this does not mean that it (application) is not. Before World War I, many generals regarded aviation as a kind of quirk that had no place in real combat, the same was with the idea of ​​iron ships, and with tanks, etc.

[slan]

I still believe. Yes, the future belongs to robotic systems. It is easier to implement it in surveillance aircraft, because drones have long been a reality. And no one argues that there will be "unmanned" tanks, let alone reconnaissance vehicles. But here we are talking, I repeat, about the development of promising remote control systems for a car, without appropriate systems for remote or automated control of fire, mine clearance, etc. they are meaningless. Moreover, the control is not particularly remote and not at all automated.
What you wrote about the strategy of using an unmanned aircraft and a reconnaissance vehicle has nothing to do with the subject of discussion. Since the article deals with four cars with a black suicide bomber, sent to no one knows where in order to observe what will be done to them there. Agree, there is a big difference with your strategy. Question - and if he goes there in one car, the observations will be very different?)) Of course, there will be some difference, four defenseless cars will shoot 4 times more, but still the "logic" is similar the operation is highly questionable.
Well, I repeat that it is the form of the presentation of this news by the author and his allegory with the "invincible straw cavalry" that causes laughter. That in reality there are quite useful promising ones, I emphasize, I have no doubts about developments. And it's sad that ours are not doing this, and then how will it be with drones.

[snek]

Well, the fact that the tactics of application proposed in the article are, I do not argue with you. Maybe the author just loves horses ... or the Mongols. I think in practice the search for ways to use this machine will look like this: a trial batch will be sent to Afghanistan and they will say: "Here are a dozen remote-controlled jeeps with machine guns, you are a military type - so think about how to use them for war."
The news itself is interesting, just written with some kind of author's fantasies.

[FROST]

A very useful thing. In fact, a universal platform for creating wheeled combat robots.

[bober]

experts.v reconnaissance and from the front let mine trawl. this is what the Americans have not thought of yet))))))))))) Russian ingenuity. Moreover, each machine also shoots and how you will know which enemy it encountered. And this is 4 cars in theory should terrify a detachment of 10 militants. since militants see that the forces are unequal. plus you can create false maneuvers with the help of this technique. the warriors were found))))))))))))))

I agree with the Russians easier. why the hell is it if you can platoon send your forehead to the forehead in contact))))))))))))))

[slan]

Non-Russian specialist, does your non-Russian ingenuity suggest that you use four empty decommissioned cars with one driver "for reconnaissance"? Explain please, why the heck?
According to your non-Russian idea, 4 such "ghosts" will terrify 10 militants?)) How? What kind of "false maneuvers"?)) What kind of maneuvers will there be, he will drive one car with his left hand, the other with his right foot ... but what organ remains to shoot? And he will look in general in the other direction from the road - the scout is the same)) Or is it worth filming enemy streets on cameras for Google?))
Although, I agree, it is guaranteed to ditch 4 obsolete pieces of equipment, an ideal just way)) But is it not expensive? Equipment then at a cost will pull on a normal BRM. And the crew did not learn how to replace the computer in real tasks, the more so replace the four crews with one black suicide))
Here is a non-Russian intellectual amused, intelligence with four weakly armored empty ghost machines for intimidation)) Maybe even put the acoustics with ominous music, so that the militants did not seem enough? In reconnaissance, just one machine with firepower and protection of four is needed than four troughs without a single shooter.
Write more. Or are you the author?))

[bober]

and who said that there is only one person in the base hamer. There will be 4 staff who can control the rest of the machines. And 4 cars can provide all-round protection, in which case the crew under cover of 3 empty cars can successfully leave the scene
and all the firepower will be directed at one brdm, and you’ll have to divide by 4 and if the grenade launcher has one chance that the crew will not be able to fit it increases 1k 4.so say that the toad is crushing)))))))
and doesn’t they value the life of a soldier in the West anymore. here and showed that it’s more expensive for you. you consider losses in technology. who has nothing))))))))))))))))

[slan]

Quote: bober

4 cars are supposed to terrify a detachment of 10 militants. Since militants see that the forces are unequal.

Or maybe it would be better to send four buses with tinted windows and the inscription "Navy seals", so the militants will shit.

[NUT]

maybe the strategist is bad with me, but if there are unmanned aircraft, then why not be land and sea military equipment?

[slan]

Yes, there is a long time, especially sea boats, not to mention underwater vehicles.

[Drcoks]

There are even unmanned "spaceships" =)))

[dobry-ork]

Some crap. The USSR began testing the tank with radio control in 1929 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD % D0% BA)
But, in my opinion, these developments are ahead of their time

[Project by nemesis]

Damn, they have a multi-billion dollar debt, and they manage to wage war in countries and create new models of military equipment !! ....

[bober]

they may have a big debt, but they have a huge backlog. Compare the industry of the United States with any other country and you will see that no one even stands next to them. In Italy, 3 trillion euros are not very worried about the debt. And the US debt the main debt is domestic debt, that is, to the citizens of their own country. China, they owe something about one and a half trillion dollars. And if you compare the annual budget of the United States, you will see that it is almost nothing.

[Drcoks]

Is it worth it? take a car, set up electronics, isn’t it easier to send a UAV? and not cheaper?

[Honory]

What is the meaning of invaluable Mongolian experience? And not a completely robot and not a full-fledged fighting machine.