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Winchester: shutter and magazine (part of 1)

Winchester - referring to the famous gun, "conquered the Wild West" - a thing too famous and popular not to write much and in detail. Including on the pages of VO, where, in particular, at one time my materials were published about the battles of Americans with the Indians at Rosebad and Little Big Horne. It told not only about these battles themselves, but also about weapons. However, the design of the hard drive and the circumstances surrounding it are so interesting that ... inevitably have to return to them. Moreover, the author had the time not only to “hold on” to the 1895 hard drive, but also to shoot from it, and subsequently to hold in his hands a completely unique specimen of the hard drive.

Winchester model 1866 of the year (4-I model, caliber .44-40).

And it was so that as a boy I saw a “gun” in my grandfather’s room on the wall. The family chronicle told me that it was from this gun that my uncle, who later died in the war, almost shot my future mother, blurting out her grandfather wolf's canister almost at close range. One kartechina remained in her hand for the rest of her life! Well, and then I myself saw how my grandfather chopped lead pieces of square section into pieces and stuffed the resulting “cubes” with cartridges with which ... a raven shot in the garden!

Volcanic Pistol.

Bang! And from the flying crow only feathers flew! Then he began to teach me to shoot, and the complexity of the gun seemed amazing to me: first, squeeze the trigger, then fold the lower arm, so much so that even the trigger fell out of the gun, then put the cartridge in, lift the lever upwards and only then shoot! The guns of the fathers of the neighbors' boys with overlapping trunks seemed somehow unreal to me. Moreover, studying in a special school with English from the second grade, I very quickly read the stigma on it: "Winchester 1895, the American Army."

The scheme of the hard drive 1873 year.

Well, and only then I learned that his grandfather had been given in 1918, when he was in charge of grain procurements, was in command of food detachments and ... he was shot, and he himself shot. But after the civil war, the military winchester was offered to surrender to him, and he gave it to the mess. In the armory, he was replaced with a rifled barrel for a smooth larger caliber, removed the clip for the holder, which was on the receiver, pulled the spring and the feeder out of the store, and at the same time changed the forearm. At that time in Soviet Russia there were a lot of such converted guns, because the winchesters too were supplied to us a lot and many of them for some reason turned out to be in the rear, and not at the front. Often they made fences for themselves (“cuts”), fists, and we have one such in the Penza Museum of Local Lore. Well, in 1965, the GED film “Sons of the Great Bear”, shot based on the novel of Liselotta Welskopf Heinrich, came to our screens, and I also became ill with the hard drive for life, although then I had to part with my grandfather's gun.

Winchester: shutter and magazine (part of 1)

Lever arm and receiver hard drive mod.1895 year.

Well, it is, so to speak, the “personal impressions of the author,” and this is what tells us about where “it all began” “dry science история". And it was that 14 February 1854, an American named Benjamin Henry received a patent for ... a pistol, which had bullets (and they are gunshots, that is, bezelzovye ammunition!) Were in a tubular store under the barrel, and fed into the barrel with special lever, structurally combined with the trigger guard.

Russian soldiers with winchesters in their hands ...

It should be noted that the "first highlight" of the design - lead bullets of caliber 10-mm filled with a charge ... mercury fulminate was more original than this lever. True, there was nothing more than explosive mercury inside the bullet! When the trigger hit the striker, it pierced the explosive inside the bullet through an opening in the bolt, it flashed, and this, in general, was enough to throw it out of the barrel. This design simplified the design of the gun (no need for an ejector!), But it is known that the simpler the weapon, the better. The gun was called Volcanic.

Canadian Royal Mounted Police and also with Winchesters.

But ... despite all these advantages, the new weapon did not enjoy success on the market. The fact is that the speed of the bullet was small and, accordingly, the destructive power was also small. And it also turned out that holding the gun in my right hand and working with the left lever was uncomfortable. One could, of course, hold the pistol by the barrel and reload it with the right one. The company tried to bet on the Volcanic multiply-charged rifle, with a store of unbelievable length, but she did not have commercial success. As a result, the manufacturer, by the way, also called Volcanic, went bankrupt!

Winchester advertising.

Here we will go back a little and remember how the weapons were loaded at all at that time. However, A.A. is shorter and better. You can hardly tell Pushkin about this, and he described this process in his novel “Eugene Onegin” as follows:
That guns really flashed,
Rattles a ramrod hammer.
In the faceted trunk bullets leave,
And clicked the trigger for the first time.
Here is a powder streak greyish
On the shelves pouring. Notched
Securely screwed flint
Cocked ...

To solve the problem of accelerated loading helped the invention of cartridges, in which together there was a bullet, and gunpowder, and primer. However, even earlier, the inventive human thought created a bezgilzov shot - that is, a bullet without a sleeve, in which the projectile charge was inside! I must say that many attempts were made at the time to create rapid-firing multiply-charged weapons. But scrolling revolvers, as well as multiply-charged pistols, as a rule, all had several barrels firing alternately!

Another advertisement.

That is, the magazine could solve the problem for a lot of cartridges, and Benjamin Henry took care of it with his creation, and in 1860, he received a new patent for the cartridge rifle with an 15 charging magazine under the barrel. He replaced low-power bullets with a charge inside with cartridges with a ring ignition of the .44 caliber, and again it is clear with the ring one. After all, the bullet head of one cartridge was directly opposite the bottom of the other. And if there was a cap, then when you hit the butt on the ground could happen an accidental shot.

The shutter of the master gunsmith Erskine S. Allin, installed on the model 1861 of the year. Rifle "Springfield."

During the years of the American Civil War 1861 - 1865. This Henry rifle was used very actively. The advertisement claimed that “You can charge it on Sunday and shoot all week without recharging!” But it was still very inconvenient to charge - it could only be done while standing, and also through the slot running along the entire store from below ( moved the lever of the sleeve-pusher), there was dirt and dust. Yes, and the lever itself could move into the hand when moving, which could cause a delay in shooting, and the loading process was very long. To do this, the lever at the base of the spring needed to be pushed to the stop toward the muzzle of the barrel, fix, and then detach the lower part of the magazine from the upper one, move the upper part to the side so that it would not interfere, and insert the cartridges into it. Looking at the lever sticking out of the slot in the store, it was possible to determine whether a rifle is charged or not. That is, it was clearly not the best solution, although with a fully equipped magazine, its rate of fire reached 30 shots per minute. Something else was needed, and that was how the famous 1866 Winchester of the year appeared.

The same age of the “yellow guy”: single shot carbine mod.1866, “Springfield” with a folding shutter.

The main "highlight" was the spring-loaded door of the store, located on the receiver on the right. Now the store has become possible to charge "from the rear end", that is, holding the rifle in your left hand and not necessarily standing, but also lying (very comfortable!) And sitting in the saddle.

Flip-flop Snyder rifle. Opened

It should be noted that the successful Winchester system (well, he bought Henry's patent and released the yellow guy, i.e. 66 carbine) immediately brought to life well, just a lot of imitations, and now something about them is the time to tell a little more details.

Flip-flop Snyder rifle. Closed

Let's start with a nearly identical copy of Winchester’s main rival, John M. Marlin, who in 1870 started with the production of revolvers and derringers, and eventually improved the hard drive. The main disadvantage of the latter was the shutter, which closed the shutter box on top and slid inside the grooves. The cartridge case was thrown upwards and sometimes hit the shooter’s face.

Marlin Carabiner. Model 1894 year chambered Remington .44 Magnum 44 1894 g.

Marlin invented the U-shaped bolt and receiver, closed on top. When reloading, he also moved back, but at the same time a window was opened at the same time, through which the sleeve was also removed to the right. Thanks to this, it was possible to install an optical sight above the barrel of the Marlin carbine. Initially carbines were produced calibers .32 and .45 (7,7 and 11,43-mm), but then there were others.

Marlin carabiner chambered for .30-30 Winchester.

Then A. Borgess of Oswego released his version of such a rifle. She has a noticeable whimsical lever, but the mechanism itself is similar to Winchester. In 1878, his rifle was tested, but recognized as fragile. Firms Schneider also did not remain aloof from participating in the development of this system and also proposed a bolt operated by a barrel-mounted lever. But when the valve was moved forward, the bolt did not move backward, but ... it went down in the grooves of the receiver.

The shutter rifle "Marlin".

At the same time, a cartridge was fed to it, the bolt was raised, and a special lever (also known as an extractor) pushed it into the barrel. The rifle's rate of fire was at the level of the “Winchester” and “Marlin” firing rates and was distinguished by a very short gate box. Such a system was described in the English book by the designer Green Gun (WW Greener) “The Gun and its Development”, published at the end of the 19 century, and reprinted at the beginning of 20. Then information was borrowed from it by the famous weapon historian V.Ye. Markevich, already our author, and ... everything!

Schneider shutter system.

At the same time, K.Kh. Ballard of Worcester, Kentucky, also decided to have his say in the development of lever-operated rifles. He made an excellent ... single-shot rifle, which is still being sold, and then he came up with a paddle for multiply charging with a barrel gantry. And he acted, unlike all the others, on the principle “to do is simple - very difficult, and difficult - very simple”. The bolt from him was also controlled by a lever clamp, but “drove” inside the receiver due to the fact that the gear cutting on it was rolling along two gears! The benefit from this was that the bolt moved extremely smoothly, but then both the bolt and receiver were very long, and therefore heavy. Ballard rifles were released the following calibers: .32, .38, .44 (7,7, 9 and 11-mm), and then also .45 and .50. And if the hard drive cartridge 50-caliber contained 90 Grand. gunpowder then Ballard 115! That is, his rifles were more powerful! There were rifles with an under-barrel magazine on 5 and on 11 cartridges and, although they were in demand, they could not compete on equal terms with the hard drives.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 November 2015 07: 53
    Such a system was described in the English book by designer Griner

    It is generally accepted that the surname reads like Greener.

    an American named Benjamin Henry received a patent for ... a gun in which bullets (and they are shots, that is, caseless ammunition!) were in a tubular magazine under the barrel, and fed into the barrel using a special lever, structurally combined with a trigger guard.

    This reloading system is still known today as the "Henry Staple". And the article is very good. good
    1. kalibr
      9 November 2015 11: 28
      Yes, you are right, of course, somehow I missed it in my pursuit of "translation accuracy". In the same place, the syllable is open. And the bracket - of course.
  2. bandabas
    bandabas 9 November 2015 07: 55
    They wrote beautifully about grandfather. +
  3. Free wind
    Free wind 9 November 2015 08: 41
    Interesting, informative. And why did they offer grandfather to hand over weapons? Maybe grandfather himself decided to remake the rifle in a gun, it was probably hard to find cartridges for the hard drive? I don’t know what the arms law was before, but shotguns used to be sold freely.
    1. erg
      erg 9 November 2015 10: 21
      In Russia, in the First World War, hard drives were supplied under the Russian rifle cartridge. Initially, it was planned to establish the production of "Mosinka" in the states, but something went wrong and the Americans offered to produce a Winchester under the Russian cartridge. Although, probably with a native patron, a lot was delivered to Russia.
      1. gross kaput
        gross kaput 9 November 2015 13: 56
        Quote: erg
        to establish the production of "mosinka" in the states, but something went wrong and the Americans suggested

        Well, for some reason, it didn’t work out, they were released by Remington and Westinghouse, only one rem before the start of the revolution managed to deliver 400 thousand of the 1 million stipulated by the contract.
        Quote: erg
        Americans proposed to produce a Winchester under a Russian cartridge

        The choice of Winchester was due only to the fact that weapons were needed yesterday laughing and accordingly, while the production of three at the Remington and Westinghouse was unfolding, the offer of the hard drive to immediately put the M1895 under our patron was very helpful, but after the mass production of three in 1916, the purchases of the m1895 lost relevance.
        Quote: erg
        Although, probably with a native patron a lot was delivered to Russia.

        Let's just say a few pieces for the M1895 native cartridges, or rather they were produced for several calibers, but specifically they went to the Russian army under our 7,62X54.
        1. erg
          erg 9 November 2015 19: 52
          Thanks for the info. I relied on the memoirs of Fedorov, where he points out problems with the organization of production of the three-line in the states. But I didn’t know that the production was still established.
          1. gross kaput
            gross kaput 9 November 2015 22: 17
            Quote: erg
            But I didn’t know that the production was still established.

            Well, Duc American mosquitoes, even in our time, are far from an artifact, and such a curious fact - remington before the revolution managed to put only part of the rifles stipulated by the contract, but a certain number of unsent rifles went into service of the American expeditionary force during the Yankee intervention in Vladivostok in 1918.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 9 November 2015 22: 43

        Somehow, it’s dumb to put a Russian rifle cartridge into a tubular magazine.
    2. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 9 November 2015 10: 26
      changes in the law on weapons in the USSR in my opinion in 1928 concerned mainly short-barreled weapons and finally tightened in 1936 to the point that even small-bore rifles and hunting smooth-bore rifles could be acquired only by artisan craftsmen, and all weapons including premium ones if they died relatives should have passed the owner or the prison, although before that they sold the small caliber without requiring any documents and permits
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 9 November 2015 14: 03
        Quote: LPR Insurgent
        toughened to the point that even small-bore rifles and hunting shotguns could only be acquired by artisans

        They screwed on a threaded nut, and a smooth-bore weapon on a hunting ticket could be purchased up to the 75th year, and then permission was issued by the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And until the 59th, absolutely anyone, not even a hunter, could buy a smooth trunk.
        1. rc56
          rc56 9 November 2015 17: 17
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Hunting ticket smoothbore weapons could be purchased until the 75th year

          I bought my first TOZ-16 smoothbore in February 1986 precisely by hunting ticket. No permission was required. Then he drove her in a cotton case through the entire Union by plane - just passing the stewardess.
    3. kalibr
      9 November 2015 11: 29
      So it would have been a rifle cartridge! Fighting!
  4. Glot
    Glot 9 November 2015 09: 06
    I had a chance to hold three such hard drives in my hands. In Tajik, trophy. I don't remember the years of release, however, as well as the models, but there were small and all releases of the end of the year before last - the beginning of the last century.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 9 November 2015 09: 30
    Interesting article. +
  6. AlexA
    AlexA 9 November 2015 09: 42
    We look forward to continuing.
  7. alex-cn
    alex-cn 9 November 2015 09: 48
    I always thought that there was only a "Russian Winchester" with a box magazine. Thanks to the author. plus delivered.
    This shutter is not dead now. FN Launches Timber carbine under 444 marlin. Not to mention the many replicas of different calibres made in the USA and Italy ...
  8. Alex
    Alex 9 November 2015 13: 12
    Vyacheslav, thank you very much! "+" good

    Such a moment aroused interest:
    ... the loading process was very lengthy. To do this, the lever at the base of the spring had to be moved all the way to the side of the muzzle of the trunk, locked, and then the lower part of the magazine should be disconnected from the top, take the top to the side so that it did not interfere, and insert cartridges into it. Looking at the lever sticking out of the slot in the store, it was possible to determine if the rifle was loaded or not.
    As far as I understood from the description, the loading process is somewhat reminiscent of loading plastic balls into toy gun stores. Or did you mess something up?
    1. kalibr
      9 November 2015 16: 16
      No, that's right. Why didn't it have a forend under the barrel this very tube? And could not have by definition! There was a slot in which a bronze lever went. And at the top, the tube was split and at the top there was an L-shaped groove. Here it was necessary to put a lever like that of the MP-40 into this groove, then raise the upper part of the tube and remove it from the hook from the lower one. Take the top to the side, and fill the bottom with cartridges "back to front". And then do everything in reverse order. It is clear that doing this while lying down was possible, but inconvenient. And the lever ... as soon as it got under the fingers of the left hand ... interfered.
  9. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 9 November 2015 13: 44
    Shoot lying down, and from the trench probably uncomfortable.
    1. kalibr
      9 November 2015 16: 18
      And when he tried to shoot from the hard drive lying on the ground, he suffered. The lever goes far down. It is necessary either to tilt the gun sideways or to bend over yourself or to kneel.
      1. Alex
        Alex 9 November 2015 17: 53
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Shoot lying down, and from the trench probably uncomfortable.

        Quote: kalibr
        And when I tried to shoot from the hard drive while lying on the ground I was tormented. The lever goes far down.

        Yes, the length of the staple is 20 centimeters, plus the center of rotation is almost at the lowest point. Considering the almost 90-degree sector ... It is clear, for a cavalryman, perhaps, an excellent weapon, but the infantry is not very convenient. By the way, in those very "Indian" films with Goyko Mitic I saw how famously they reloaded the winchester with one hand - the rifle was held vertically upward and a kind of sharp circular motion was made with the brush. I wonder if it's a cinematic trick or is it really possible?
        1. kalibr
          9 November 2015 20: 48
          With a carbine can be and can be. And with a rifle, no! I so wanted to make a friend - famously, like in the movie to open the trigger with the bolt. And ... the trigger tightly jammed the bolt. I had to shove the file and press it down. Spring is very strong. In addition, 4,5 Kila rifle You do not throw over one hand, even if you open the trigger in advance!
  10. Bayonet
    Bayonet 9 November 2015 17: 11
    Great article! Just have fun! good
    1. kalibr
      9 November 2015 17: 19
      We are glad to try, Your Excellency! Thank you most sensitively! (The colonels in the Russian army didn’t say that, of course, but ... privates, and I always have the rank of private soldier!)
  11. NIKNN
    NIKNN 9 November 2015 20: 47
    Great article, really liked it! Thanks to the author!
  12. moskowit
    moskowit 9 November 2015 21: 30
    Thank you interesting. There is a book by the Beetle "Rifles and Submachine guns", there is about Henry's rifle, but in passing, and the article contains complete information. Yes, and in the eyes are "Sharp Falcon", Winnetou and "Faithful Hand" are a friend of the Indians next to them with "Winchesters" in their hands. True, it's true Mitich fired from a half-squat like a machine gun ...
    1. gross kaput
      gross kaput 9 November 2015 23: 04
      Quote: moskowit
      and in the article the information is complete

      In the article, it is not only incomplete, but also turned upside down, which, in principle, is the norm for some overly prolific "writers".
      So briefly the story of the appearance of Lever-action Winchester without and here’s what tells us about where “it all started” “dry science history” In which the author is not strong and is forced to repeat theses from an ancient article in the journal "Technology of Youth" of the 80s (there was such a heading - the history of weapons)
      So the first patent for a bullet cartridge, a bolt and a store was received by Walter Hunt (cartridge US5701A on August 10, 1848, mechanism US6663A on August 21, 1849), the above-mentioned comrade immediately sold his patent rights to Lewis Jennings, who improved its design and patented it under his own name on December 25 1849 under the number US6973A, but Jennings was not able to translate the idea into clear dollars, in 1852. Henry enters the case, who, having bought out the rights to the design, tried his associates to organize production, but unsuccessfully, so all rights once again migrated to two later very famous comrades - Horatio Smith and Daniel Wesson, who organized the Volcanic Rehearsing Arms company, but they quickly burned out and were forced to sell all the rights, developments and technologies to Oliver Winchester - who was not a gunsmith but was a merchant from God - and he, in turn, attracted Henry to the project, who had already forgotten about that caramultuk with a bracket, and only when Henry remade the system instead of flying bullets chambered for rimfire and, accordingly, added an extraction mechanism, then the weapon gained recognition and popularity, and Smith and Wesson organized a new production that is known and still works, and the company founded by Oliver Winchester unfortunately has not existed for several years.
      Well, the author in his repertoire especially hung this phrase Moreover, studying in a special school with English from the second grade, I very quickly read the mark on it: "Winchester 1895 American Army." it is clear that the tale about grandfather was written as a lyrical introduction, but why are they so stupidly substituted?
      I'm wondering if the author even knows where the American nickname of the soldier came from - "Geei"? this is not to mention the M1895 in the American army. laughing
      1. kalibr
        10 November 2015 06: 46
        Again, your accusatory diarrhea has begun. Do you need to put a photo of the shank of the bolt box, where is this inscription? My friend just bought one from me, "straight from childhood." There is.
        Last time you gave me the names of the authors who write about weapons, go to exhibitions there, etc. This is when you got me about the crane shutter. Mol. deprecated this term. Markevich is not an authority. How about Shokarev, Plotnikov, Dragunov? Authoritative? So they also have this term in their general monograph Firearms (Avanta Publishing House, 2007) on page 69. And then about Russian rifles in the Russian-Turkish war. And I remembered where I got it from. Of course, 2007 is not the 15th, but I think that they have not changed their opinion during this time. So there is always something to deepen, expand and supplement, and it is great that you have something to supplement my materials, but just what for ...?
        1. gross kaput
          gross kaput 10 November 2015 12: 59
          Quote: kalibr
          Again, accusatory diarrhea has begun.

          No, I’m just trying to close your fountain of revelations, you, as usual, quickly sprinkled a hack, one of my friends of operas about people like you says - “It’s not easy to lie - but how beautiful - you will listen” laughing
          Quote: kalibr
          You need to put a photo of the liner shank, where is this inscription?

          Go ahead, but wait, I know instead of pictures I will hear again something like "I do not intend to throw pearls in front of pigs." And now that with regards to the markings on the Winchester M 1895, you, as usual, heard the ringing but did not understand where it was, and you guessed with your own "scientific conclusions" on the M1895, the barrels were branded in the chamber on the left, and the receiver jumper above the barrel on these marks was the caliber of the weapon on the jumper of the box it is simplified - for example .30 ARMY or 7,62 for the Russian order on the barrel, army weapons also had a simplified name for the hunting caliber, usually marked completely - .30 US ARMY, but the Winchester m 1895 marking was located in a completely different place in the area fastening the neck of the butt. But this is a trifle and in particular, what annoys me most of all in your article is that you were even too lazy to find out where the legs of the hard drive system grow from
          1. kalibr
            10 November 2015 13: 10
            One example of a bad upbringing is when a person does not answer the questions that he himself inspired. I asked you about Dragunov? Zero emotion. Pro crane shutter wrote? Posted! Now you cling to another. Yes, the marking was on the mount on the neck of the butt, but this is the same as I wrote! You want to say that I did not hold it in my hands? He held, and more than once in his youth and literally yesterday. I wrote to you that my good friend collects all weapons. So he also has a hard drive. And just 1895 g. And the stigma on it is all the same, where they are supposed to be and on them everything is the same as what I wrote. And do not get annoyed. We must take and write better, with a high index of novelty on the system Advego-plagiatus. And then you better imagine that the author has the right to write as he sees the topic. And more or less to insert into it ... Brokgauz and Efron, too, were not all painted. Something is always behind the scenes. For other authors ...
            Yes, imagine that I know where the abbreviation GI-I went from - govermental issue.
            1. gross kaput
              gross kaput 11 November 2015 00: 56
              Quote: kalibr
              One example of bad parenting is when a person does not answer questions that he himself inspired

              To begin with, the post was not completed - the chief entered, I had to interrupt. Secondly, this is your habit - it is pompous to notice that you have certain rules prohibiting you from proving something to someone - and, forgive me, you are fussing, you are on topics of no fundamental importance, but completely ignore questions concerning much more serious blunders and your discoveries and "sensations". As for the next murzilka and the role of Dragunov in writing it, in general, such books about everything and at once are not in his style and most likely in its release he played the role of a "wedding general" and perhaps he did not read the text itself - which, unfortunately in our time is not rare (he once worked part time "Negro" for a fairly well-known man hung with titles like barboska fleas though in the end he nit proved to be decent and recent studies throw I tried but that's another story, well, that's after a -that time of our cooperation, he did not even skim through the texts) As for the topic of crane gates, I will not explain any more - in Russia nowadays there has long been a strict classification, including those related to locking mechanisms, the greatest attention to the use of correct terms and definitions in the description of the weapon is given by forensic experts (the specifics are such - you cannot be mistaken), who during the production of the ball. examinations have the right to use only either special manuals and reference books or a list of approved expert literature. I gave you an excerpt from the manual, another book from this list is available to almost every shooter fan - this is the Beetle's handbook - open the section dedicated to gates and enjoy the description of the crane and swing gate.
              Quote: kalibr
              And the stigmas on it are all the same where they are supposed to be and on them all the same that I wrote.

              Once again, for those who are in the tank - the branding of M 1895 hard drives of that period - an American army at the top, a Russian order at the bottom, a model marking in the middle - located on the neck of the butt behind the trigger, common for all M 1895 variants, regardless of caliber and performance. The only marking that you can pull on your version is a hunting winchester under 30-40 gait, it really had the mark .30 US Army on the barrel, but it does not have a caliber indication on the receiver, which is typical for hunting options, only now the markings do not match on them in the late 20s, the earliest carbine with this marking dates back to 1927
              But all this small things and lyrics I’m more and more about global smile - how did you promise to understand the impartial history of the Winchester so that you could not clearly state the beginning - or rather, Comrade Hunt, from whose patent it all started, but Smith and Wesson were forgotten? But they pulled together a bunch of parallel developments while managing to plainly not tell anything, while also posting a photo of the modern version of the carbine Marlin M1894 dating it for some reason 1894 when 44 magnum was still missing.
            2. gross kaput
              gross kaput 11 November 2015 01: 07
              Quote: kalibr
              govermental issue

              Well, for the future, weapons belonging to the U.S. Army are marked as belonging not to the army but to the goverment government, gov., The exception is only in the part of weapons manufactured for the U.S. ILC and purchased directly from them but it is also quite rare but the USMC marking is found.
  13. SlavaP
    SlavaP 9 November 2015 22: 25
    Many thanks to the author for the article - interesting and informative. I regularly shoot from Marlin 0.357 - a wonderful toy, lightweight, easy to reload. Of course, it is inconvenient to shoot while lying down - but it is not intended for this! That is, it is a weapon of fast, maneuverable combat at a short distance (urban battalion commander) or in the conditions of a forest or mountains.
    1. kalibr
      10 November 2015 06: 57
      Well, well, that even here I did not lie ...