The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army

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Do you think that the most terrible, in the opinion of the Americans, is in the arsenals of the Syrian government forces? No, these are not Smerch and Hurricane multiple rocket launchers. Non-rocket complexes "Tochka" and heavy flame-throwing systems "Solntsepek". And, of course, not armored vehicles with artillery. Western propaganda is mostly silent about them. The Western public and, personally, US President Obama are very concerned about the use of the most "savage", in their opinion, kind weapons - hand-made so-called "barrel" or "barrel-bombs".

The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army

This photo has become a favorite illustration of materials about "barrel" bombs.

Say, the villains of Assad in some secret workshops stuffed barrels of gasoline under the trotyl and striking elements, and then, hanging them under the helicopters, dropped on the heads of unsuspecting civilians.

For many westerners and politicians, these “barrel” bombs have become much more dangerous than chemical weapons (which were destroyed in Syria thanks to our country) and the ISIL and Al Qaeda, which were banned in Russia, put together. Promotion of the topic with this sinister weapon took place according to all the rules of military propaganda. One has only to recall the campaign to demonize the actions of the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. Many tricks, by the way, resemble those that are currently used. For example, the myth of the toy mines, which the Soviet troops "scattered in large numbers near the villages to kill children." Of course, these facts were not really confirmed by anything, there were no real toy bombs. But how many then talked about it. The same with the use of chemical warfare agents, no real facts and rivers of lies.

Later, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and to justify the intervention in the region, the Western media described the "atrocities" of the invaders. Many people remember absolutely terrible history that the soldiers of the Baghdad dictator killed premature babies in Kuwaiti maternity hospitals, throwing them out of special containers. As it turned out, this chilling story is entirely invented by American PR people. And statements about chemical weapons in Iraq? From him "freedom-loving nations" led by the United States saved the world. And where are these stocks of agents? Also a lie from start to finish.


In the majority of photographic materials about barrel bombs, for some reason they do not explode, but lie and wait for foreign correspondents to take pictures of them.

And how demonized the population of an entire Balkan country - Yugoslavia. Serbs were killed not only by NATO bombs, but also falsified and completely Nazi, by definition, by polls in which Western propagandists tried to prove that in intellectual development Serbs are "the most backward in Europe." Fortunately, "in enlightened Europe" it did not come to measuring the shape of skulls and other things, which was practiced in Germany during the Third Reich.

You can also recall the abominable behavior of Western propaganda during the events in South Ossetia in August 2008, as well as the situation in the Donbas.

Finally, the events in Libya and Syria. The once-prosperous country of Libya, which has broken apart, was also subjected to monstrous defamation — a real informational aggression. And, as it turned out, much that was attributed to the regime of the deceased colonel was invented from beginning to end. We see all this in Syria: informational stuffing by various bloggers, London’s “human rights observatories” and professional human rights defenders.


And this “bomb” of the villains - the asadists stuffed with some white powder (where are the destructive elements that they talk about so much?) And dropped it so that to be substituted again. By the way, why in many photos of these bombs with 200 kg of TNT from a strike on the ground just stomps, and does not tear to shreds?

Returning to the notorious barrel bombs. If you look completely unbiased, you can understand that we are dealing with an organized campaign. In fact, analyzing the photo and video materials posted on the Web, one can understand that these are fakes, many of which are concocted very roughly and designed for people who are absolutely not trying to analyze what they are shoving. We can confidently say that it will take some time, and we, as has repeatedly happened, will find out who organized all this, distributed and financed all this.
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  1. +24
    25 October 2015 06: 57
    As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool
    1. +10
      25 October 2015 07: 50
      Quote: Taygerus
      As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks

      But this crap works in the west. So are people dumb at the end? requestMaybe they just hunt something to hang noodles on their ears?
      1. +28
        25 October 2015 08: 18
        Alex28 (3)
        But this crap works in the west
        All true.
        In the theory of warfare, such “stuffing” is called a mental attack on the information front. Moreover, psychology has proved that, the more monstrous and absurd the lie, the more the layman believes in it! Goebbels spoke of this.
        So that’s why American PR-provocateurs work for public opinion in their favor against Russia quite qualified. Although to us their antics seem just wild! In fact, the Americans draw from the world community from Russia the image of a blasphemous enemy, drawing world public opinion to their side in the war with Russia. What for? Americans need Western access to ALIEN material and human RESOURCES to wage war against the Russian Federation.
        Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!
        1. +2
          25 October 2015 19: 16
          Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!

          In addition to retaliatory measures, they should be beaten with their own weapons. Once they believe all kinds of fables, they need to fantasize all kinds of nonsense regarding the USA, NATO and the actions of their armed forces, the more ridiculous the better. And throw it all into their territory through all the available media. Everything should be mutual.
          1. +3
            25 October 2015 21: 03
            Quote: efimich41
            Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!

            In addition to retaliatory measures, they should be beaten with their own weapons. Once they believe all kinds of fables, they need to fantasize all kinds of nonsense regarding the USA, NATO and the actions of their armed forces, the more ridiculous the better. And throw it all into their territory through all the available media. Everything should be mutual.


            I agree with you! True, there is one nuance - if our people start making such stuffing, first of all, we will all die of laughter - imagine that, for example, Konashenkov, will, barely restraining his laughter, tell some kind of nonsense thread. It is not in our blood to "lie with a blue eye" and remain serious. This is what distinguishes our liberals - but if they are supported by the Goebbels from the USA and Europe, can they outbid them? Let them lie in our favor with a serious look)))
            1. +3
              26 October 2015 01: 45
              Of course, you should not stoop to the level of arrogant lies of Western propaganda.

              Then you can lose your own audience. Let people in the west be zombified and fooled by the deceitful media, but at least in the post-Soviet republics people have now "seen the light"

              An important role here is played by the fact that the Russian media and the Russian leadership skillfully use the Truth-Uterus - and this "hooks" people
        2. +1
          26 October 2015 05: 02
          Power is in the truth.
          Even the most stupid mattress zombie absurdly clicks muddy eyes, at the mention of an IMPOSSIBLE FACT: Russia is invited to Syria, subject to all necessary rules, and the Americans are impostors, lawlessnesses.
          The Kremlin still has a lot of trump cards in reserve.
          For example, what kind of legitimacy of the current ukroputists can be discussed if the MANDATORY impeachment procedure has not been implemented?
          I am sure this key moment will come to light one day. Nothing is forgotten.
        3. 0
          27 October 2015 11: 52
          The main thing the Russian side does not yawn with exposure
          V.V.P. constantly unambiguously reminds the world community who really is the enemy of everything human. Unfortunately, these statements in the West are "cut out" or not translated (omitted as not important). I would like to believe that very soon the moment of truth will come ... Although at the last moment V.V.P. will save the face of the lamb, by all means exchanging it for certain preferences for the Russian Federation.
          PS to the photo: Hope to EAT !!!
      2. -7
        25 October 2015 13: 44
        Quote: Alex28
        Are people stupefied at the end?

        Well, you listen and almost believe your media ??? If you say no, I won’t believe you !!!!!
        1. 0
          27 October 2015 11: 58
          I watch TV extremely rarely. And then, in order to look at the news from a different perspective. As they say, trust but verify!
          Who read (see photo) the news will never believe until the end ...
        2. 0
          27 October 2015 12: 53
          Quote: sssla
          Well, you listen and almost believe your media?

          And who better to believe? Really what spreads dill propaganda? In recent days, two high-ranking officials, including the ousted president of the country, defeated the country of Dill and its lawyers in European courts. What is it for? Probably the lawyers were bought or recruited by V.V. Putin personally.
        3. 0
          27 October 2015 17: 20
          Yes I believe you! The Tu-154 was shot down by Ukraine, the Boeing was shot down by Ukraine. What shot down, who personally shot down is a minor issue.
        4. 0
          27 October 2015 20: 26
          you then definitely believe yours judging by your channels, it just doesn’t tear me apart from laughter from your channels, at least even from dialect
      3. +1
        25 October 2015 14: 00
        Americans are like women, by God, they came up with it themselves, they were offended ... their cheap sets up, like with "slopes" and a bunch of incomprehensible mortar outfits in Iraq will no longer be rolled out
      4. +2
        26 October 2015 04: 26
        People in this info-shit live deep, they think, dream and dream, for years.
        The stump is clear that they have no options to have at least some opinion different from that imposed by the promatras media.
        However, even there, there are sane and adequate.
        Marine Le Pen, for example. I bow to this wise woman.
        1. +1
          27 October 2015 20: 29
          and in the Bundestag - Sarah Wagenknekht, also a strong woman. German men degenerated into a campaign, if you look at how she lowers the entire German government
    2. 0
      25 October 2015 12: 53
      Quote: Taygerus
      As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool

      I personally watched a Russian TV report about these Syrian "barrel bombs" about a year ago, which is also a mess ?????????????
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 12: 33
        Crap is not that these bombs exist (it's true) Crap is that they are dropped on civilians. The Syrians began to see such weapons out of despair. If they had regular bombs (factory-made), they would drop them.
        1. +1
          27 October 2015 12: 56
          In isolated cases. The Syrian aviation has enough bombs, NAR and UR to bomb the masses with ammunition made on the knee. These are landmines - without GGE at all, used for additional cleaning of the area after air and artillery strikes, mainly as a psychological and "non-lethal" weapon. Also used for the destruction of fortifications. The Syrians are not fools to substitute slow vertices under the ZPU and CPV in combat conditions and bomb into the white light. Their pilots are very professional, they have a supply of ammunition. Wh - ODAB-500, a pair of which surpasses twenty barrels of ammonium nitrate in terms of damaging effect. And so, the CAA also uses over-caliber 120 / dofiga mm mines from gas cylinders and other home-made, leaky barrels to whistle (from 10 barrels, it is good if one with saltpeter). When such a candy falls / flies and, if it still explodes, all the beaters in the pants find the Akbar cats and hide in the cracks, after which they are knocked out by the infantry with the support of the armor.
          Pendosy lied.
        2. 0
          27 October 2015 13: 22
          Quote: DenZ
          Crap is that they are dumped on civilians.

          civilians, are those that are moving along the underground passages with weapons?
          A similar type of bomb was used during the Second World War. Our allies were honored with this, only equipped with normal explosives. To undermine dams in Germany. Probably they are all three civilians that in the flood zone were warned in advance in Dresden too. Or were there no civilians there?
          Yes, and the Nazis used dummy barrels. For the sake of noise.
          1. 0
            27 October 2015 19: 29
            Exactly, and the white powder is the one that didn’t fit into the Powell tube hi
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  2. +23
    25 October 2015 07: 08
    Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.
    1. +5
      25 October 2015 08: 18
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.

      This one that is dropped from a bomber and brings down a lot of people, because you’ll catch horseradish? laughing
      1. 0
        25 October 2015 18: 33
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Quote: PlotnikoffDD
        Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.

        This one that is dropped from a bomber and brings down a lot of people, because you’ll catch horseradish? laughing


        No. That jumping one.
    2. +2
      27 October 2015 09: 09
      It is necessary to start a rumor ISIS about bullets smeared with lard. :) Instantly everyone will run away.
  3. +4
    25 October 2015 07: 28
    The talents of Western PR managers are running out. They can’t suck anything out of their fingers anymore, here they need to change something or PR managers or ....
    Serbs were killed not only by NATO bombs, but also by falsified and completely Nazi, by definition, polls

    I have experienced this trick myself. After my questions: Who pays for the survey, the calls somehow suddenly stopped, until I can understand why.
  4. +9
    25 October 2015 07: 57
    Barrel bomb is an ordinary homemade product. So to say not from a good life. And like any home-made product, it is much worse than regular weapons in terms of effectiveness, such as cluster munitions or APB (vacuum bombs), flamethrowers. Very bad in the West has become with the organizers and organizers of information wars, the qualification falls.
    1. ICT
      +7
      25 October 2015 08: 28
      homemade work


      standard products (sort of like ours)


  5. +32
    25 October 2015 08: 05
    The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army
    - the most terrible Syrian weapon for ISIS, and more importantly - for its creator, ideological inspirer and sponsor - the United States, these are not tanks, "Solntsepeks", "barrel bombs" and not even the Russian Air Force at the Syrian airbase Khmeimim. Not at all. The most terrible weapon for them is the ability and readiness of the Syrian people and their army, even after four years of the hardest war and a series of serious defeats, to fight for the independence of their country, the readiness and ability to successfully destroy the enemy (ISIS, all kinds of oppositions), which with direct participation Russian Air Force has only grown stronger. I wish the Syrian people victory over the enemy, peace and prosperity!
    I have the honor.
    1. Fat
      +5
      25 October 2015 10: 54
      this is why GDP helps the Syrians and not the Khokhlov-Hatskrayshchiks
  6. +3
    25 October 2015 08: 11
    In the Great Patriotic War, our pilots dumped holey barrels on fascists. They whistled terribly when falling. Many nerves could not stand it.
    1. +3
      26 October 2015 08: 43
      I heard the same thing that the Nazis did. On the Junkers, they caught one barrel and dropped it. But as eyewitnesses said, our soldiers only smirked, although yes the barrels howled awfully.
  7. +5
    25 October 2015 08: 14
    In terms of the invention of ducks, Western propaganda is an unsurpassed master. To lie, to dodge, to come up with sensations for one’s public, not too spoiled by education and intellect — that’s their main task! While some people make money by all means, the media distracts the crowd so as not to interfere with the process.
    1. +1
      25 October 2015 13: 51
      Quote: professor
      No fakes

      You are right these are real filming. But the question is whose money. And the fact that the clip says that it’s Syria and the Syrian troops are bombing is CHEPU U A.
      1. -18
        25 October 2015 13: 53
        Quote: sssla
        You are right these are real filming. But the question is whose money. And the fact that the clip says that it’s Syria and the Syrian troops are bombing is CHEPU U A.

        Cool. I did not know that the Syrian militias had aviation. wassat
        1. +6
          25 October 2015 14: 07
          Quote: professor
          I did not know that the Syrian militias had aviation.

          You understand what and about whom !!! Do not pretend that you do not understand))
      2. 0
        27 October 2015 20: 30
        I agree more in Slavic seems
  8. -3
    25 October 2015 08: 20
    In fact, analyzing the photos and videos posted on the Web, you can understand that these are fakes, many of which are very rudely prepared and designed for people who are absolutely not trying to analyze what they are slipping into.

    No fakes. Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

    1. +22
      25 October 2015 09: 36
      Quote: professor
      No fakes. Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

      Professor, do you still mourn the white and fluffy moderate terrorists? Any bomb is good against Islamists, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a factory FAB-500 or a makeshift barrel barrel.
      Accept something like this:
      1. -7
        25 October 2015 10: 22
        Quote: 0255
        Professor, do you still mourn the white and fluffy moderate terrorists?

        What are you? For me, they all need to be sent as soon as possible to a meeting with the prophet. However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help. Circus.

        Syrian Free Army refused to cooperate with Russia in the fight against IS

        Quote: 0255
        Any bomb is good against Islamists, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a factory FAB-500 or a makeshift barrel barrel.

        Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage.

        Quote: 27091965i
        The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this

        Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.
        1. +8
          25 October 2015 10: 31
          Quote: professor
          Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.

          Oleg, and what "unnecessary torment" does a barrel filled with ammonium nitrate cause in comparison with FAB-250? what
          1. +1
            25 October 2015 10: 34
            Quote: Bongo
            Oleg, and what "unnecessary torment" does a barrel filled with ammonium nitrate cause in comparison with FAB-250?

            Did I talk about the barrel? I responded to the comrade post about weapons in general. Claims to the barrel are poor reliability and no accuracy.
            1. +7
              25 October 2015 10: 40
              Quote: professor
              Did I talk about the barrel? I responded to the comrade post about weapons in general. Claims to the barrel are poor reliability and no accuracy.

              Oleg, didn’t you write this?
              Quote: professor
              Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage.

              There is no difference in collateral damage when applied to residential areas. I am sympathetic to the reaction of the Israeli authorities to rocket attacks on Israeli territory. But I do not see the difference in the Syrian and Israeli bombing attacks on the settlements occupied by Islamists.
              1. -25
                25 October 2015 11: 05
                Quote: Bongo
                Oleg, didn’t you write this?

                I replied to the post "The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy, and it cannot be humane or not humane. It was created for this." Weapons can and should be "humane". To the barrel of a claim is not in its humanity or lack thereof.

                Quote: Bongo
                There is no difference in collateral damage when applied to residential areas.

                Of course there is. This is the difference between "whom Allah will send" and a targeted strike with minimal attendant sacrifices. By the way, they are trying to use small-caliber ammunition.


                Quote: Bongo
                But I do not see the difference in the Syrian and Israeli bombing attacks on the settlements occupied by Islamists.

                Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike? They scatter leaflets, send sms, ring up, or maybe they beat first with warning ones so that people can leave the quarter? How, then, explain that the number of victims in Syria went to hundreds of thousands, and in Gaza, all died (according to them) about 2000 people, including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.
                1. +10
                  25 October 2015 11: 10
                  Quote: professor
                  The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.

                  Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza No. Besides, who makes the "civilians" stay in the areas occupied by the Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?
                  1. -32
                    25 October 2015 11: 19
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza

                    Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS? wink

                    Quote: Bongo
                    Besides, who makes the "civilians" stay in the areas occupied by the Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?

                    And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.
                    1. +15
                      25 October 2015 11: 22
                      Quote: professor
                      And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                      Well, of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", which provoked the outbreak of an armed conflict there.
                      1. -29
                        25 October 2015 11: 25
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Well, of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", which provoked the outbreak of an armed conflict there.

                        So these are your allies. We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (Rhetorical question)

                        Let's go back to the materiel.
                      2. +13
                        25 October 2015 11: 30
                        Quote: professor
                        So these are your allies.

                        My? what
                        Quote: professor
                        We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (A rhetorical question)

                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome fellow moreover, about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.
                        Quote: professor
                        Let's go back to the materiel.

                        Let's Yes
                      3. -19
                        25 October 2015 11: 35
                        Quote: Bongo
                        My?

                        Well yes. You are a citizen of Russia.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome, especially since about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.

                        What do you mean "let them come"? Bring them, place them, give them a roof over their heads, feed them, help with money as Europeans do.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Let's

                        Agreed. hi
                      4. +12
                        25 October 2015 11: 37
                        Quote: professor
                        What do you mean "let them come"? Bring them, place them, give them a roof over their heads, feed them, help with money as Europeans do.

                        As if the Europeans are happy with them or they have a choice.
                      5. +5
                        25 October 2015 12: 28
                        Quote: professor
                        Quote: Bongo
                        My?

                        Well yes. You are a citizen of Russia.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome, especially since about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.

                        What do you mean "let them come"? Bring them, place them, give them a roof over their heads, feed them, help with money as Europeans do.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Let's

                        Agreed. hi


                        Eeeee, forgive me, what does it mean "graft them like Europeans do"? Do you have any proof that Europeans are bringing Syrians to Europe by Europeans?
                      6. +20
                        25 October 2015 14: 14
                        Quote: professor
                        Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS?

                        And how many similar comments did you leave when the USA burned Basra with white phosphorus together with people? I will answer for you - not one.
                      7. +15
                        25 October 2015 12: 42
                        Quote: professor
                        Kids of your allies, we treat

                        Yeah, five children from Syria were cured to create an appearance, and in Gaza, five hundred children were killed.
                        This is the whole policy of Israel - the most important thing is to "show off", to deceive the whole world.
                      8. +7
                        25 October 2015 12: 36
                        Quote: professor
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Well, of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", which provoked the outbreak of an armed conflict there.

                        So these are your allies. We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (Rhetorical question)

                        Let's go back to the materiel.

                        And we are gum. we help you, they will come to us for the night too. You have some strange claims, like we don’t treat them with a specialist, we don’t feed .... Some kind of nonsense. Do we really have to make them go to us? This is not democratic.
                        The USA is an ally of Iraq, are they really letting Iraqis in for the night, they bring it to the USA and feed it there?
                      9. +6
                        25 October 2015 13: 59
                        Quote: professor
                        and you?

                        PROFESSOR ALEX
                      10. +4
                        25 October 2015 11: 34
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Quote: professor
                        And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                        Well, of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", which provoked the outbreak of an armed conflict there.

                        Exactly, let the EU feel on its own skin what the Arab Spring is driving at.
                    2. +8
                      25 October 2015 13: 59
                      Quote: professor
                      Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                      Professor and you are a liar))) And you know about it))))) How not ashamed of such an educated and so lie ?????
                      1. +8
                        25 October 2015 14: 06
                        Quote: sssla
                        Quote: professor
                        Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                        Professor and you are a liar))) And you know about it))))) How not ashamed of such an educated and so lie ?????

                        Professor is not just a liar. In this topic, he becomes in the pose of a humanist, against WMD, so that war criminals are tried (I wait when he demands to judge an ally of Israel for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki), on the other he rejoices in deaths in Syria, he has all the terrorists there, and here but it sheds tears for the refugees from Syria, who are taken out, fed and laid to sleep in Israel and Europe.)))
                        .
                      2. +7
                        25 October 2015 14: 21
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Professor is not just a liar. In this topic, he becomes in the pose of a humanist, against WMD, for war criminals to be tried

                        In this case, he needs to condemn the United States for hundreds of war crimes.
                        But the USA is an ally of Israel, and this says a lot.
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                    4. +4
                      25 October 2015 14: 11
                      Quote: professor
                      Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                      Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????
                      1. +4
                        25 October 2015 14: 13
                        Quote: sssla
                        Quote: professor
                        Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                        Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????

                        The professor does not answer uncomfortable questions, but the accuser of him is notable.)))
                      2. -18
                        25 October 2015 14: 34
                        Quote: sssla
                        Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????

                        Do not tell my slippers. Before the war, about 100 thousand people lived in Syria with Russian passports. Mostly women married Syrians. And now these women and children returned to their mothers (most of them prefer Europe rather than Russia), and you reported how you received the Syrian refugees. You accepted yours, and even then not all. You here Fatima with a dozen of her children accept.

                        According to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), as of January, 238 people were seeking asylum in Russia. However, most of them - 836 people - are refugees from Ukraine. Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria.

                        For comparison, Turkey has received more than two million Syrians, and in Germany the number of asylum seekers by the end of the year can reach 1,5 million people, mainly from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

                        As of January, only 790 people had refugee status in Russia, including 419 from Afghanistan, 229 from Ukraine and only two are from Syria. Elena Burtina from the Moscow Committee for Civil Assistance, which provides assistance to refugees, notes that even there are more refugees from Malta in Russia.

                        Russia is preparing to evacuate from Syria
                        Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has counted about 100 Russian citizens living in Syria with their families.
                      3. +4
                        25 October 2015 14: 42
                        [quote = professor] [quote = sssla] Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ????? [/ quote]
                        Do not tell my slippers. Before the war, about 100 thousand people lived in Syria with Russian passports. Mostly women married Syrians. And now these women and children returned to their mothers (most of them prefer Europe rather than Russia), and you reported how you received the Syrian refugees. You accepted yours, and even then not all. You here Fatima with a dozen of her children accept.

                        According to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), as of January, 238 people were seeking asylum in Russia. However, most of them - 836 people - are refugees from Ukraine. Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria.

                        For comparison, Turkey has received more than two million Syrians, and in Germany the number of asylum seekers by the end of the year can reach 1,5 million people, mainly from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

                        As of January, only 790 people had refugee status in Russia, including 419 from Afghanistan, 229 from Ukraine and only two are from Syria. Elena Burtina from the Moscow Committee for Civil Assistance, which provides assistance to refugees, notes that even there are more refugees from Malta in Russia.

                        Ahahahaha. The professor is really bad. Then he writes "Quote: professor
                        Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, it doesn’t treat them. "That" Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria. "But the process went in the head of the professor, he already counted a certain number of Syrians in Russia. Not all is hopeless.)))
                      4. -8
                        25 October 2015 14: 50
                        Quote: Your friend
                        But the process went in the head of the professor, already counted some number of Syrians in Russia. Not everything is hopeless.)))

                        Young man, once again make a mistake in spelling my nickname I will send to the emergency.

                        For those who have a bad understanding, I’ll repeat it one last time. According to Lavrov (you know this?), About 100 Russians lived in Syria. Russia accepted 000 refugees from Syria and only 2 (two) of them received refugee status. Where else are 340 Russians not to mention native Syrians? request
                      5. +7
                        25 October 2015 14: 58
                        Quote: professor
                        Quote: Your friend
                        But the process went in the head of the professor, already counted some number of Syrians in Russia. Not everything is hopeless.)))

                        Young man, once again make a mistake in spelling my nickname I will send to the emergency.

                        For those who have a bad understanding, I’ll repeat it one last time. According to Lavrov (you know this?), About 100 Russians lived in Syria. Russia accepted 000 refugees from Syria and only 2 (two) of them received refugee status. Where else are 340 Russians not to mention native Syrians? request

                        Just don't throw me into the thorn bush !!!))) Not an emergency, please, just not that. Such an old, "wise" person, but he takes offense at such things.
                        It's cool, the person writes at the beginning that Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, then he himself writes that there are 2340 refugees - and accuses me that I have a bad "understanding". Che is logical.
                        It does not occur to him that the Russians who returned to Russia are not going to receive refugee status, they returned home.
                        So how is your statement, where did the Russian Foreign Ministry call the CCA terrorists? I am waiting for confirmation from you, but still no way.
                      6. +9
                        25 October 2015 18: 18
                        Bullshit and lies designed for stupid people. If they are citizens of the Russian Federation, then they have come home. And they are not entitled to refugee status. And 97660 Russians can be anywhere, this is their own business.
                      7. -9
                        25 October 2015 18: 22
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        Bullshit and lies designed for stupid people. If they are citizens of the Russian Federation, then they have come home. And they are not entitled to refugee status. And 97660 Russians can be anywhere, this is their own business.

                        Therefore, only two received. Looks like family members. But that's why 97 decided not to return to Russia is an interesting question. With Russia's acceptance of Syrian refugees, everything is crystal clear. hi
                      8. 0
                        27 October 2015 14: 38
                        Did you follow the fate of every Syrian with a Russian passport ????
                        Enough pouring water and talking nonsense, about your bile addressed to Syria and Russia, I already wrote with you, too, everything is crystal clear, it is not clear what forces you to go to this portal, do you want to throw mud at everyone, attract attention or are you "paid" ???
                      9. 0
                        28 October 2015 00: 01
                        Professor, just the rest of 97000 are Russian citizens and they returned home, so they did not receive refugee status!
                      10. -6
                        25 October 2015 18: 42
                        Quote: professor
                        Where else are 97660 Russians not to mention native Syrians?

                        It’s clear where - in Europe
                      11. +4
                        25 October 2015 18: 45
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: professor
                        Where else are 97660 Russians not to mention native Syrians?

                        It’s clear where - in Europe

                        Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?
                      12. -7
                        25 October 2015 18: 48
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?

                        Elementary proof.
                        If out of 100t of Russian citizens, about 3% chose to return to Russia, and in Syria today there are 5 million refugees, then somehow you don’t have to be too smart to understand. that Russians (and Christians - Syrians) for a long time and without problems receive status in Europe.
                        That they do not sit in the ruined Allepo, but in calmer countries
                      13. +3
                        25 October 2015 18: 51
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?

                        Elementary proof.
                        If out of 100t of Russian citizens, about 3% chose to return to Russia, and in Syria today there are 5 million refugees, then somehow you don’t have to be too smart to understand. that Russians (and Christians - Syrians) for a long time and without problems receive status in Europe.
                        That they do not sit in the ruined Allepo, but in calmer countries

                        Where does this 3% come from? Otkel firewood?
                      14. -7
                        25 October 2015 18: 45
                        Quote: atalef
                        It’s clear where - in Europe

                        I know it. I want to hear it from the idiot. As well as explanations why they did not return to Russia, but went on the run to the damned West.
                      15. +6
                        25 October 2015 19: 13
                        The only thing I can accurately prove (and show) to you is that I am not a Jew. Although you, dear Professor, have not presented anything other than digits and what Lavrov said request Lavrov said that there were 100 Russian citizens or compatriots? These are two big differences.
                      16. -1
                        25 October 2015 19: 39
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        Although you, dear Professor, have presented nothing but numbers and what Lavrov said

                        And for whom am I posting links? For yourself beloved?
                        http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/russia-unwelcoming-few-syrian-refugies/30045
                        98.html

                        http://www.gosrf.ru/news/4709/
                      17. +7
                        25 October 2015 20: 04
                        Thank you, Professor. I read carefully the article in the Voice of America.
                        238 people applied for asylum
                        234 016 refugees from Ukraine
                        2 refugees from Syria,
                        2 Syrian Circassians whose ancestors lived in the North Caucasus in the 000th century ... We found refuge in Kabardino-Balkaria.
                        Yes, Lavrov voiced the figure of 100 Russian citizens (I will check in our sources) living with their families. But he also added that in case of need they will be evacuated. But the article, old friend ... I would also like to leave for Europe. here in the "Voice of America" ​​it is written ... that those Syrians who do not support the legal regime do not want to go to Russia. And what the hell do we need here?
                      18. +1
                        25 October 2015 20: 07
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        Thank you, Professor. I read carefully the article in the Voice of America.
                        238 people applied for asylum
                        234 016 refugees from Ukraine
                        2 refugees from Syria,
                        2 Syrian Circassians whose ancestors lived in the North Caucasus in the 000th century ... We found refuge in Kabardino-Balkaria.
                        Yes, Lavrov voiced the figure of 100 Russian citizens (I will check in our sources) living with their families. But he also added that in case of need they will be evacuated. But the article, old friend ... I would also like to leave for Europe. here in the "Voice of America" ​​it is written ... that those Syrians who do not support the legal regime do not want to go to Russia. And what the hell do we need here?


                        Ohhhhhh ... already the Voice of America has gone ... serious evidence, I hope you realized how wrong you were?))))))
                      19. +5
                        25 October 2015 20: 25
                        I just quoted what you suggested. And I honestly pointed out the name of the source. Information from the information enemy, just ... Where is a hundred thousand? I still don’t understand. With all the desire in Russia to obtain citizenship is very easy lately. Close to me Six refugee families from Donbass and their children settled in. For six months they all received citizenship, housing, work ... the land of the sea ... If, what, and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
                      20. -9
                        25 October 2015 20: 28
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...

                        1. Do not squeeze.
                        2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.
                      21. +8
                        25 October 2015 20: 36
                        Quote: professor
                        Not a foot to you.

                        Professor, hi
                        From sumy and prison do not renounce ....
                        They will bring, without legs, against the will ... laughing
                      22. +5
                        25 October 2015 20: 46
                        Anything can happen ... request
                      23. -3
                        25 October 2015 20: 20
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        But he also added that in case of need they will be evacuated. But the article, old friend ...

                        Well? I don’t remember the EMERCOM flights that evacuated 100 Russians and their families, and this is about another 000 minimum. Did I miss anything?

                        Quote: Barkhan
                        I would like more other departure to Europe

                        Again? If not to Russia, then where did they disappear from Syria? Maybe they forgot what peaceful life is in Russia and decided to wait out the war in the basements?

                        Quote: Barkhan
                        And for hell do we need them here?

                        So your compatriots after all. And the rest of the Syrians are your allies.
                        Quote: Victorio
                        how accurate is this information, but: "The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria."

                        Where? In those 10 liberated villages?
                      24. +1
                        27 October 2015 15: 44
                        Hey people! Enough Professor minus. All the same, do not persuade in anything, and we lose the alternative opinion with arguments, though not always convincing.
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                      26. +4
                        26 October 2015 23: 44
                        And in honor of what should Russian citizens receive refugee status? My husband has a partner in the factory - an Adygei from Syria. His wife is from Maykop. We arrived, issued a husband and children by the Russians. Not refugees. It works normally, it is on the military register, it teaches the Russian language. Has your number 97660 become smaller? And I think the same with the rest.
                      27. +1
                        27 October 2015 14: 33
                        Dear, why did you get that 2340 refugees with Russian passports ??? If he has a Russian passport, he is a citizen and only if he does not have one, he is considered a refugee, so that 100 of our citizens are not refugees upon arrival from Syria, respectively, they do not fall into official statistics on the arrival of refugees.
                    5. 0
                      25 October 2015 20: 12
                      Quote: professor
                      Quote: Bongo
                      Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza

                      Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS? wink

                      Quote: Bongo
                      Besides, who makes the "civilians" stay in the areas occupied by the Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?

                      And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                      ======
                      how accurate is this information, but: "The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria."
                      1. -2
                        25 October 2015 20: 39
                        Quote: Victorio
                        The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria. "

                        You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay
                      2. +1
                        25 October 2015 20: 43
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Victorio
                        The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria. "

                        You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

                        Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...
                      3. 0
                        25 October 2015 21: 03
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Victorio
                        The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria. "

                        You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

                        Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...

                        800t in small groups and dashes.
                        Although what to take - mufti laughing
                      4. 0
                        25 October 2015 21: 11
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Victorio
                        The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian airstrikes against extremist positions, more than 800 refugees have returned to Syria. "

                        You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

                        Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...

                        800t in small groups and dashes.
                        Although what to take - mufti laughing

                        Well, of course, this is the mufti ... ahahahaha ... what to take from him.
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                    7. 0
                      27 October 2015 20: 39
                      Russia didn’t start it there, it’s not for us to disentangle. But Israel contributed to this, and as they say - do not dig a hole
                2. +4
                  25 October 2015 12: 57
                  "Of course there is. This is the difference between" whom Allah will send "and a targeted strike with minimal accompanying casualties. By the way, they try to use small-caliber ammunition."
                  Of course not, and both guilty and innocent people die there and there.

                  "Hmm ... Do Assad people warn the population before the strike? Do they scatter leaflets, send text messages, ring up or maybe hit first warning people so that people can leave the quarter? How then explain that the number of victims in Syria went to hundreds of thousands, and in Gaza, everything died (according to their data) about 2000 people including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world. "
                  Is war going on in Gaza? Do Arabs have tanks, guns, armored personnel carriers in gas, do they use all this for Jews? And that Assad killed all the hundreds of thousands of people in Syria? That's a bastard. And that they’re phoning everyone right away, they’ll send a text message to everyone - not a single person was killed because of this. So just humanists. I have no doubt that if Israel starts a real, bloody war, if there is a question of Israel’s extinction, there will be no text messages, no calls, and there will be cluster bombs and nuclear weapons, and rightly so.
                  1. -3
                    25 October 2015 19: 20
                    Quote: Your friend
                    Is war going on in Gaza?

                    But what about genocide without war belay
                    Quote: Your friend
                    Do Arabs have tanks, guns, armored personnel carriers in gas, do they use all this for Jews?

                    Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria wink
                    Quote: Your friend
                    And that Assad killed all the hundreds of thousands of people in Syria?

                    Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

                    Quote: Your friend
                    I have no doubt if Israel starts a real, bloody war,

                    We had real wars more than once.
                    And why is it always used in relation to us - IF
                    And if tomorrow a meteorite falls on your head?
                    Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
                    1. +1
                      25 October 2015 19: 28
                      Quote: atalef
                      Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria

                      And how many dead in Syria?
                      Quote: atalef
                      We had real wars more than once.

                      Nothing you had!
                      Quote: atalef
                      And why is it always used in relation to us - IF

                      You are such a nation! Always were Jews, but wanted by the Jews ...
                      Quote: atalef
                      Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

                      You will win in advance ... One word "chosen" negative Sorry for the early one. I am far from determining the quality of a person by nation, but FORCE !!! hi
                      1. -4
                        25 October 2015 20: 07
                        Quote: Alex28
                        And how many dead in Syria?

                        us today (according to their sources - 230t)
                        Quote: Alex28
                        Nothing you had!

                        And Syria gave us the Golan laughing
                        And Jordan Jerusalem (East) laughing
                        In general, all the weapons that the USSR supplied to the Arabs (and which we UNKNOWN in what way turned out to be) - probably they gave us the same wink

                        Quote: Alex28
                        You are such a nation! You have always been Jews, but wanted to be Jews ..

                        Do not choke on saliva
                        Quote: Alex28
                        You will surely win ... One word "chosen

                        Clever wink
                        Quote: Alex28
                        and early excuse me. I am far from determining the quality of a person by nation, but FORCE !!!

                        not far i would say hi
                    2. +3
                      25 October 2015 19: 32
                      But what about genocide without war belay

                      What genocide? I did not say a word about genocide? Why do you attribute to me that I did not say?
                      Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria wink

                      Why on earth? Those. if the Arab throws a stone at you or launches a rocket, then there will be more victims than in Syria, where are the tanks, guns and planes? Nonsense.
                      Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

                      Kindergarten. Where did I say that Assad is a saint and did not kill anyone?
                      We had real wars more than once.
                      And why is it always used in relation to us - IF
                      And if tomorrow a meteorite falls on your head?
                      Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

                      How much have I written to you about this ??? When you had real wars, no one warned about the bombing, no one sent SMS, no one called. And now you are writing some nonsense. Really kindergarten.
                      1. -2
                        25 October 2015 20: 11
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Why on earth? Those. if the Arab throws a stone at you or launches a rocket, then there will be more victims than in Syria, where are the tanks, guns and planes? Nonsense.

                        and what is there, they put 230t of militants?
                        Strange, our palaces screamed that only in Yarmouk (Palestinian refugee camp, a suburb of Damascus), where 500t lived, 60t died (much more than in all wars against Israel), and 12t remained there, with hundreds starving to death (the rest fled) or are fighting against Assad.

                        Quote: Your friend
                        Kindergarten. Where did I say that Assad is a saint and did not kill anyone?

                        So what's the question?
                        Quote: Your friend
                        When you had real wars, no one warned about the bombing, no one sent SMS, no one called

                        Then there were no such norms --- times change
                      2. +1
                        25 October 2015 20: 21
                        and what is there, they put 230t of militants?
                        Strange, our palaces screamed that only in Yarmouk (Palestinian refugee camp, a suburb of Damascus), where 500t lived, 60t died (much more than in all wars against Israel), and 12t remained there, with hundreds starving to death (the rest fled) or are fighting against Assad.

                        Honestly, where are the screams of your "pale", and the fact that in Syria hundreds of times more people died in several years than you did in Israel in several decades. Your answer is strange.
                        Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

                        So what's the question?

                        Why Pol Pot?
                        Then there were no such norms --- times change

                        And you are consistent)))) (see below)
                        Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
                      3. -2
                        25 October 2015 20: 42
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Honestly, where are the screams of your "pale", and the fact that in Syria hundreds of times more people died in several years than you did in Israel in several decades. Your answer is strange.

                        No, the conversation is about barrels on the one hand and high-precision on the other. Like by the way and the results
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Why Pol Pot?

                        To the fact that he, like Assad, did not personally kill anyone
                        Quote: Your friend
                        And you are consistent)))) (see below)
                        Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

                        Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
                        FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?
                      4. 0
                        25 October 2015 20: 54
                        No, the conversation is about barrels on the one hand and high-precision on the other. Like by the way and the results

                        Brrrr ... in general, the conversation we have in this thread is about the number of victims in Syria and you. Are you tangled in branches?
                        To the fact that he, like Assad, did not personally kill anyone

                        Well, Assad didn’t personally kill anyone, which I told you about. (
                        Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
                        FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

                        Iiiiii? Uncover the great changes in the world after this court appeared? Really began to kill, burn, cut less ??? Let me finally feel the difference !!!!
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                      7. +5
                        25 October 2015 21: 53
                        Quote: atalef
                        itata: Your friend
                        And you are consistent)))) (see below)
                        Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
                        Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
                        FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

                        Alexander, but something about the court, you are not very precise and accurately reporting. This court does not actually work.
                        The International Criminal Court (International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; abbreviated as ICC) is the first permanent international criminal justice body that is competent to prosecute those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. Officially began its work on July 1, 2002.

                        The Russian Federation signed the Rome Statute on September 13, 2000, but has not yet ratified it and, therefore, is not a State party to the International Criminal Court. At the same time, Russia cooperates with the ICC and participates in its work as an observer.
                        A number of countries fundamentally object to the very idea of ​​the ICC as limiting the sovereignty of states and giving indefinitely wide powers to the court; Among them are the USA, China, India, Israel and Iran.
                        The USA is the most ardent opponent of the ICC. Although the US government signed the Rome Statute in 2000, it already withdrew its signature in 2002. Initially, Bill Clinton, when signing the document, explained that the United States was not going to ratify the Rome Statute until they had first-hand experience of the work of the International Criminal Court. In the future, the Bush administration, on the pretext of protecting its military personnel, completely refused to participate in the Rome Statute, calling it violating US national interests and sovereignty. In addition, in 2002, a special Law on the Protection of American Personnel Abroad (English) Russian was adopted, which allowed the use of military force to release any American citizen or citizens from among US allies detained in the territory of any state on the basis of the ICC. The United States also entered into bilateral agreements with a number of countries in which it was obliged them not to extradite suspected American citizens to the International Criminal Court, and if these agreements were violated, the United States would cease providing them with military assistance and any other support.

                        And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?
                      8. -1
                        25 October 2015 22: 35
                        Quote: andj61
                        And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?

                        Accept the Roman status - you mean.
                        So Andrey, it’s not a problem when you live with a country that does not recognize the Roman Status (of course, it will not give you away), a problem when you get into a country, it recognizes the status (and this is practically the whole of Europe - as an example), and then you under the white handles and in the jail.
                        And so, of course there is no problem, sit at home, who will touch you.
                      9. 0
                        25 October 2015 23: 04
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: andj61
                        And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?

                        Accept the Roman status - you mean.
                        So Andrey, it’s not a problem when you live with a country that does not recognize the Roman Status (of course, it will not give you away), a problem when you get into a country, it recognizes the status (and this is practically the whole of Europe - as an example), and then you under the white handles and in the jail.
                        And so, of course there is no problem, sit at home, who will touch you.


                        atalef: Yes, but there has been a trial since 2002, it is already real.
                        FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?


                        It’s bzdets, so to paint about a new era with the advent of a new court, in order to later admit that the court is complete crap, you can put it on the part if you travel to countries that have not signed the Rome Statute. Che, a good court that will change a lot lol
                      10. +6
                        25 October 2015 23: 16
                        The funny thing is that all these European countries are themselves independent and duplicitous ... Russia will rise, they will stand before us, turning into one bitter attention ... China will rise, they will eat with sticks and squint their eyes ...
                3. +2
                  25 October 2015 13: 55
                  Quote: professor
                  Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike?

                  The discussion was about this. Only the problem is not what they warn, but about the fact that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???
                  1. -6
                    25 October 2015 13: 59
                    Quote: sssla
                    Only the problem is not that they are warning, but that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???

                    No one is warning children in Sderot before rocket fire. Thanks to radars, children have only 15 seconds to run into the bomb shelter. So 5 minutes is an eternity. In my years I have run more than a kilometer during this time.
                    1. +1
                      25 October 2015 14: 05
                      Quote: professor
                      So 5 minutes is an eternity.

                      What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???
                      1. +8
                        25 October 2015 14: 08
                        Quote: sssla
                        Quote: professor
                        So 5 minutes is an eternity.

                        What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???

                        You see, the difference is that if innocent people are killed from the use of "high-precision" weapons by the Israeli army - then this is a mistake, a regrettable accident, but if innocent people died from the bombs of Assad's troops - then, of course, these are bloody terrorists and war criminals. Obviously.
                      2. -5
                        25 October 2015 14: 27
                        Quote: sssla
                        What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???

                        The difference is that in "5 minutes" you will be at a safe distance.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And how many similar comments did you leave when the USA burned Basra with white phosphorus together with people?

                        Seriously? Find the topic where it was discussed and show what I wrote there.
                      3. +5
                        25 October 2015 14: 35
                        Quote: professor

                        Seriously? Find the topic where it was discussed and show what I wrote there.

                        That was a couple of years ago, but I still remember. At first you asked to prove that you used white phosphorus.
                        Then you raised the topic -And whether the United States signed the White Phosphorus Convention.
                        Sorry, but I don’t remember another. Maybe there was no other wink
                        By the way, here is the latest article on US crimes. there are no your comments, you probably haven’t noticed the article
                      4. -9
                        25 October 2015 14: 38
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Sorry, but I don’t remember another. Maybe there was no other

                        Was there a boy?
                      5. +17
                        25 October 2015 15: 46
                        Quote: professor

                        Was there a boy?

                        Of course not. Basra and corpses were not burned in the streets of Belgrade. In Vietnam, no one used gas and napalm. And the hospital in Afghanistan was not bombed either.
                        But Assad in Syria, the butcher is yes.
                      6. +4
                        25 October 2015 21: 16
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Of course not. Basra and corpses were not burned in the streets of Belgrade. In Vietnam, no one used gas and napalm. And the hospital in Afghanistan was not bombed either.
                        But Assad in Syria, the butcher is yes.

                        In the Torah, nothing is said about this ... Assad "Demon" and the Jews are holy. Hard to remember? And there was a boy ... And don't argue anymore ...
                    2. +1
                      25 October 2015 19: 39
                      Quote: professor
                      No one is warning children in Sderot before rocket fire. Thanks to radars, children have only 15 seconds to run into the bomb shelter. So 5 minutes is an eternity. In my years I have run more than a kilometer during this time.

                      And who started?
                      1. -2
                        25 October 2015 20: 12
                        Quote: Alex28
                        And who started?

                        And in court they ask who started it?
                      2. +2
                        25 October 2015 20: 38
                        Quote: atalef

                        And in court they ask who started it?

                        No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?
                      3. -2
                        25 October 2015 21: 09
                        Quote: Alex28
                        Quote: atalef

                        And in court they ask who started it?

                        No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?

                        Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
                        That is life
                      4. +4
                        25 October 2015 21: 16
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Alex28
                        Quote: atalef

                        And in court they ask who started it?

                        No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?

                        Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
                        That is life

                        Seriously, Assad is already terrified. How many years is the war going on? How many have already filed, well, those who have what?
                      5. +3
                        25 October 2015 21: 51
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Seriously, Assad is already terrified. How many years is the war going on? How many have already filed, well, those who have what?
                        THE DENYUZHKA NEEDED FOR THEM :::: At least they need to crack (one word "Saints") Turns out already ...
                      6. +1
                        25 October 2015 21: 36
                        Quote: atalef

                        Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
                        That is life

                        I’ll continue !!! Life is not about money, but according to conscience. On that we stand and you (you) do not understand this !!!! Oaths and persecution will be until you understand that conscience (soul) is at the head of everything! S. W. Alexander
                      7. 0
                        25 October 2015 21: 45
                        Quote: atalef
                        And in court they ask who started it?

                        Before your conscience, answer! The Torah does not recognize conscience! I do not recognize the Torah! Judge ... requestAnd the court will not be yours !!! Believe me!
                      8. -1
                        25 October 2015 22: 33
                        Quote: Alex28
                        Before your conscience, answer! The Torah does not recognize conscience!

                        Another Torah connoisseur. laughing
                        how many letters in the Hebrew alphabet do you even know? laughing
                      9. -7
                        25 October 2015 23: 01
                        Quote: atalef
                        Another Torah connoisseur

                        Do they thump there before entering the site? request
                      10. +1
                        25 October 2015 23: 09
                        Quote: MACCABI-TLV
                        Quote: atalef
                        Another Torah connoisseur

                        Do they thump there before entering the site? request

                        "They", "there", "thump" - comrade are going the right way. (
                    3. 0
                      25 October 2015 22: 23
                      exercise correctly. otherwise it will come in handy again.
                  2. -1
                    25 October 2015 19: 21
                    Quote: sssla
                    Quote: professor
                    Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike?

                    The discussion was about this. Only the problem is not what they warn, but about the fact that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???

                    In what takes more than 5 minutes laughing , by the way, at what distance will you manage to escape even in 5 minutes. if they tell you that your house will be bombed?
                    1. 0
                      25 October 2015 20: 46
                      Quote: atalef
                      In that it takes more than 5 minutes laughing, by the way, at what distance you will have time to escape even in 5 minutes. if they tell you that your house will be bombed?

                      It depends on the preparation.To all!!!Request !!!! Do not minus: "Professor" and "Atalef". These are real antipodes.
                      1. 0
                        25 October 2015 21: 10
                        Quote: Alex28
                        It depends on the preparation.

                        So - you will survive good
                4. +2
                  25 October 2015 19: 34
                  Quote: professor
                  and in Gaza, all (according to their data) killed about 2000 people, including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.

                  Professor, update the training manual in your synagogue. It has already been ordered to speak to the PFGU and only to one PFGU and not to hide anything !!!
              2. 0
                27 October 2015 20: 37
                and Israel will play out soon. they also help the SSA, no matter how much they deny it. And their shelling of the Syrian government army is another confirmation of this. It’s a pity the people of Israel, except Jews (in a bad sense), there are adequate people. And so if they start to cut them out, I would not want to see them in their homeland, let them run to the geyropu
        2. +6
          25 October 2015 11: 02
          Quote: professor
          What are you? For me, they all need to be sent as soon as possible to a meeting with the prophet.

          So FSA are terrorists for you or not? Then you write as SSA- "militias" are fighting for freedom and "will turn up Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam", today write that these "militias" should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.
          You yourself level the land of Gaza and Lebanon for shelling Hezbollah or Hamas, and you condemn Assad when he uses the army against terrorists
          Quote: professor
          However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained his sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help. Circus.

          Maybe they were offered to surrender and go to the side of Assad, but they refused? If they refused, then let them go to the other world.
          Quote: professor
          Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.

          There are no wars without casualties among the civilian population and not painful deaths, no matter how much this is wanted. Your beloved USA, using chem. weapons in Vietnam, phosphorus and uranium bombs, tell us about humanity
          1. -15
            25 October 2015 11: 13
            Quote: 0255
            So FSA are terrorists for you or not? Then you write as SSA- "militias" are fighting for freedom and "will turn up Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam", today write that these "militias" should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.

            For me, all armed Syrians are enemies, but judging by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the FSA are no longer terrorists, but almost allies. So wait, in a couple of days they will be called at least militias on Russian TV.

            Quote: 0255
            You yourself level the land of Gaza and Lebanon for shelling Hezbollah or Hamas, and you condemn Assad when he uses the army against terrorists

            Do not tell my slippers. We would like to raze them to the ground would have razed them.

            Quote: 0255
            Maybe they were offered to surrender and go to the side of Assad, but they refused? If they refused, then let them go to the other world.

            And you do not guess, but listen to what Lavrov offered them. wink

            Quote: 0255
            There are no wars without casualties among the civilian population and not painful deaths, no matter how much this is wanted. Your beloved USA, using chem. weapons in Vietnam, phosphorus and uranium bombs, tell us about humanity

            Is the USA now in every barrel a gag? US crimes give you an excuse to commit your crimes?
            1. +3
              25 October 2015 11: 48
              Quote: professor
              And you do not guess, but listen to what Lavrov offered them. wink

              In politics, they often say one thing and do it differently. Putin tode promised to bomb only IS, but the Russian Aerospace Forces are bombing the "moderate" too. And rightly so soldier
              1. -7
                25 October 2015 11: 52
                Quote: 0255
                In politics, they often say one thing and do it differently. Putin tode promised to bomb only IS, but the Russian Aerospace Forces are bombing the "moderate" too. And rightly so

                We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel. hi
                1. +2
                  25 October 2015 12: 02
                  Quote: professor
                  We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel. hi

                  As for the "materiel", I told you everything
                2. -1
                  25 October 2015 22: 16
                  Quote: professor
                  We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel.

                  We’ll return. We don’t believe Moses, and so on ..
            2. +2
              25 October 2015 12: 31
              "For me, all armed Syrians are enemies, but judging by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the FSA are no longer terrorists, but almost allies. So wait, in a couple of days they will be called at least militias on Russian TV."
              Give, please, an example where the Foreign Ministry called the SSA terrorists? And then vague doubts torment me that you are mistaken.
            3. +1
              25 October 2015 19: 23
              Quote: professor
              US crimes give you an excuse to commit your crimes?

              Oleg, well, so obviously do not distort. Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization, and therefore we are allies, no?
              1. -3
                25 October 2015 19: 42
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Oleg, well, so obviously do not distort. Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization, and therefore we are allies, no?

                Recognize Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorists with all the consequences, and then we'll talk. So far, Hezbollah is your ally.
              2. -1
                25 October 2015 20: 15
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization

                Hi Andrew
                terrorist - these are different concepts


                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                and therefore we are allies, no?

                Well, the step is yours .Hizballah. Hamas, Islamic Jihad.
                Then for sure allies.
          2. +6
            25 October 2015 13: 08
            Quote: 0255
            So FSA are terrorists for you or not? Then you write as SSA- "militias" are fighting for freedom and "will turn up Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam", today write that these "militias" should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.

            For Israel, all the terrorists in Syria are "militias" in general, it looks like Israel is taking leaps and bounds to justify Hitler.
            Here is what their Prime Minister Natanyahu said about that time:
            Adolf Hitler initially planned not to destroy the Jews, but only to expel them from Europe belay
            and accused Muslims of "inciting" the burning of Jews in Nazi Germany:
            but the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, persuaded him to commit genocide
            http://9tv.co.il/news/2015/10/21/215551.html
            These are the things the next step will probably be to justify Hitler and recognize him as a "prominent political figure" of Europe who wanted the formation of the state of Israel and only "evil" Muslims "prevented" him.
            And then, apparently, Hitler’s recognition as a national hero will follow.
            Half the world is in shock.
            This is the answer to the question why some Jewish Israelis consider IS terrorists, Al-Nusra - "militias".
        3. 0
          26 October 2015 23: 38
          However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained his sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help.

          Where does the information come from? The fact that the "moderates" flew to Moscow twice does not mean an offer of assistance to the rebels. Rather the opposite.
        4. 0
          27 October 2015 20: 33
          You did not understand the course of the Russian Federation - they proposed cooperation, they refused - now we have every right to destroy them. The world was offered!
    2. +5
      25 October 2015 09: 56
      Quote: professor
      FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


      The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.
      1. -8
        25 October 2015 12: 13
        Quote: 27091965i
        Quote: professor
        FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


        The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

        Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate
        1. +7
          25 October 2015 12: 41
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: 27091965i
          Quote: professor
          FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


          The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

          Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

          Seriously? Those. if high-precision weapons were sent on the wrong tip and for example they went to the hospital, and they killed a couple of innocent people, then this can be called minimization of losses ??? Here it is ...
          1. -10
            25 October 2015 12: 56
            Quote: Your friend
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: 27091965i
            Quote: professor
            FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


            The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

            Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

            Seriously? Those. if high-precision weapons were sent on the wrong tip and for example they went to the hospital, and they killed a couple of innocent people, then this can be called minimization of losses ??? Here it is ...

            It goes without saying that everyone understands that war is a war and civilian casualties are inevitable, but marriage in high-precision weapons or a mistake is one thing (you tried to avoid it, but force majeure didn’t allow it) or you initially use weapons that aren’t accurate, and it’s unknown where the incident is, I foresee your smile, but the court in The Hague will ask, what did you do to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties?
            1 scattered flyers?
            2 warned by glad about or by phone
            3 made warning bombing with a minimum charge
            4 marked territory with smoke bombs
            5 gave time after all this to the departure of citizens
            6 used precision weapons
            I'm not talking about such objects, such as schools, hospitals, mosques
            Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.
            Barrel throwers
            That's the whole difference.
            1. +8
              25 October 2015 13: 04
              Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.
              It seems that you are delirious when a hospital in Kunduz was bombed with high-precision weapons in Afghanistan (knowing that it is a hospital), what did you do "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"? Did they scatter leaflets or mark the territory with smoke bombs? Probably all this was done and I just don't know.
              1. -1
                25 October 2015 18: 25
                Quote: Your friend
                Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

                There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
                So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
                Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice
                Quote: Your friend
                What is the impression that you are delirious when a hospital in Kunduz in Afghanistan was bombed with high-precision weapons (knowing that it was a hospital), that you did "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"?

                Once again I say that mistakes occur and happen all the time, the only question is when you (not literally) stand trial - they will ask you what you did to exclude it. That's all.
                Warned? Gave the opportunity to leave? Used precision weapons?
                You probably think, we (in Israel) out of kindness of soul, throw out leaflets, warn by phone, fully document the whole process from making a decision to an attack? Why is there a legal adviser in every battalion and it is present and approves all orders?
                Yes, because we are at 21, and not in the Middle Ages, when the crowd passed, the men were killed, the women were raped, robbed and went on.
                There are rules, laws and conventions, violations of these are a direct route to The Hague.
                And when you stand in front of the judge, he will not give a damn what you wanted to win, he will ask, victory is wonderful, but what did you do to minimize civilian casualties --- this is
                1. +4
                  25 October 2015 18: 38
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

                  There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
                  So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
                  Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice
                  Quote: Your friend
                  What is the impression that you are delirious when a hospital in Kunduz in Afghanistan was bombed with high-precision weapons (knowing that it was a hospital), that you did "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"?

                  Once again I say that mistakes occur and happen all the time, the only question is when you (not literally) stand trial - they will ask you what you did to exclude it. That's all.
                  Warned? Gave the opportunity to leave? Used precision weapons?
                  You probably think, we (in Israel) out of kindness of soul, throw out leaflets, warn by phone, fully document the whole process from making a decision to an attack? Why is there a legal adviser in every battalion and it is present and approves all orders?
                  Yes, because we are at 21, and not in the Middle Ages, when the crowd passed, the men were killed, the women were raped, robbed and went on.
                  There are rules, laws and conventions, violations of these are a direct route to The Hague.
                  And when you stand in front of the judge, he will not give a damn what you wanted to win, he will ask, victory is wonderful, but what did you do to minimize civilian casualties --- this is


                  Oh my God, what the Hague is, in The Hague, real terms are given only to losers. All, all war is a war crime. High-precision weapons, low-precision what is the difference - and all your jur. advisers, SMS no more than a way to otmazatsya in case of error. I repeat once again, if a real war comes to Israel (God forbid), no one will remember about sms, warnings, about the jur. advisers.
                  1. -4
                    25 October 2015 19: 09
                    Quote: Your friend
                    Oh my god, what the Hague is, in the Hague the real terms are given only to the losers

                    Are you sure ? belay
                    Quote: Your friend
                    All, all war is a war crime.

                    No, war is not a war crime, illegal methods of war are a war crime.

                    Quote: Your friend
                    High precision weapons, low precision, what's the difference

                    Only in the number of innocent dead
                    Quote: Your friend
                    - and all your jur. advisers, SMS no more than a way to otmazatsya in case of error.

                    No, so that the one who fears for his life doesn’t die (the civilian population suffers hostages of war, anyway), but bandits can either run or fight to the end
                    Well, in the case of filing a lawsuit, of course, I did A, B, C, D - who did not obey - it was my own fault.
                    Of course, all actions must be properly documented.
                    Quote: Your friend
                    Once again, if a real war comes to Israel (God forbid),

                    She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.
                    So don’t tell me what war is.
                    Quote: Your friend
                    no one will remember about sms, warnings, about jur. advisers

                    They are not. We are yes.
                    We have a completely different approach, which is probably probably why they cannot defeat us.
                    1. +7
                      25 October 2015 19: 26
                      Are you sure ? whites

                      Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?
                      No, war is not a war crime, illegal methods of war are a war crime.

                      Once again, war is a war crime, and legal or illegal methods of war are all immoral chatter. Killing people cannot be legal.
                      Only in the number of innocent dead

                      YOU are talking nonsense. Precision weapons were not invented at all in order to reduce the number of innocents killed. It was invented to accurately hit the GOAL. Do not come up with some strange functions of precision weapons.
                      No, so that the one who fears for his life doesn’t die (the civilian population suffers hostages of war, anyway), but bandits can either run or fight to the end
                      Well, in the case of filing a lawsuit, of course, I did A, B, C, D - who did not obey - it was my own fault.
                      Of course, all actions must be properly documented.

                      I say excuse, because the innocent still die.
                      She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.
                      So don’t tell me what war is.

                      Lord, do not put pressure on pity, you have not seen a real war, and I have not seen. A real war is when a full-blooded division is brought into battle in the morning, but it is no longer at the end of the day. As in the Second World War, when millions died, and not several thousand like yours.
                      They are not. We are yes.
                      We have a completely different approach, which is probably probably why they cannot defeat us.

                      It is so naive if not to say another word. Your allies of the USA, when they are really fighting, they don’t make any calls or calls. I understand that you are a patriot and all that, just don’t make a country out of Israel with a halo and wings.
                      1. -4
                        25 October 2015 20: 17
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?

                        Then he was gone
                        The International Criminal Court (English International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; in abbreviated form - ICC) - the first permanent international criminal justice body, The competence of which includes the prosecution of those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. ABOUTofficially began its work on July 1, 2002.
                      2. +5
                        25 October 2015 20: 27
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?

                        Then he was gone
                        The International Criminal Court (English International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; in abbreviated form - ICC) - the first permanent international criminal justice body, The competence of which includes the prosecution of those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. ABOUTofficially began its work on July 1, 2002.


                        Tada kada was not. Cada US cassettes thrown in Iraq? Crimes against humanity and war crimes have a statute of limitations?
                      3. +7
                        25 October 2015 20: 49
                        And that this "international body" will sing about the city of Fallujah, pouring it with phosphorus.
                    2. +1
                      27 October 2015 00: 28
                      She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.

                      The war for their land is different from the war for the occupied territories. And going to a military settlement on the occupied lands, one must be prepared for retaliatory measures by the local population.
                2. +4
                  25 October 2015 18: 55
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

                  There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
                  So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
                  Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice ... And when you stand before the judge, he will not give a damn about what you wanted to win, he will ask - victory is wonderful, but what you made to minimize civilian casualties --- this is a question

                  Atalef, do you yourself believe in what you wrote? So it should be ideally, but for example, the American and NATO generals, the "victors" of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya were handed over to the Hague tribunal, were they asked for the deaths of civilians? And the Hague only judges those who are not pleasing to the United States. When will we see Saakashvili, Turchinov, Poroshenko, Obama, McCain in The Hague as the accused?
                  1. -7
                    25 October 2015 19: 27
                    Quote: 0255
                    Atalef, do you yourself believe in what you wrote?

                    From the first to the last letter. Ask any Israeli and he will subscribe to any of my words.
                    These are the realities of war (modern) and in BV in particular
                    Quote: 0255
                    but for example the American and NATO generals, the "victors" of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya were handed over to the Hague tribunal

                    For what ? You know, a war crime can be sued by any citizen, not a state - a citizen.
                    There were claims, but I say again - the problem is not the death of civilians (this is war), but not taking measures to minimize them
                    Quote: 0255
                    And the Hague is judged only by those who are not pleasing to the United States. When will we see Saakashvili, Turchinov, Poroshenko, Obama, McCain as the accused in The Hague?

                    Never until a lawsuit has been brought against them (substantiated and supported by facts) - in war crimes
                    Here issuing an order for the use of barrel bombs is a crime, the implementation of this order is the same.
                    The fact is whether you like it or not.
                    1. +5
                      25 October 2015 19: 39
                      Here issuing an order for the use of barrel bombs is a crime, the implementation of this order is the same.

                      Seriously: Is barrel bombs a prohibited weapon? Who banned him? I'm just not in the know, maybe it's true.
                      Never until a lawsuit has been brought against them (substantiated and supported by facts) - in war crimes

                      That is the truth. NEVER.
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                4. 0
                  26 October 2015 02: 37
                  War is a crime. Everything else is either unconscious delirium or conscious attempts to justify the victors.
            2. 0
              25 October 2015 13: 22
              Quote: atalef
              Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.


              If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.
              The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?
              1. -6
                25 October 2015 13: 45
                Quote: 27091965i
                If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.

                No, not everything. You do not use WMD and so on.

                Quote: 27091965i
                The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?

                War criminals must be tried.
              2. -4
                25 October 2015 18: 28
                Quote: 27091965i
                If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.

                and if this stronghold is in the basement of a hospital or school? Your actions? , and get to him through the streets, put half of the personnel?

                Quote: 27091965i
                The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?

                And where is it written in the charter - regardless of civilian casualties? Bring me a paragraph?
                1. +3
                  25 October 2015 19: 18
                  Quote: atalef
                  And where is it written in the charter - regardless of civilian casualties? Bring me a paragraph?


                  You did not correctly ask the question.

                  21. Activity and decisiveness of actions:

                  The commander’s decision to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end. Inaction, failure to use all the forces, means and opportunities to achieve success, indecision and passivity lead to defeat. Page 18. Combat Charter for the preparation and conduct of combined arms combat.
                  1. -2
                    25 October 2015 20: 21
                    Quote: 27091965i
                    21. Activity and decisiveness of actions:

                    In what? The destruction of the enemy, or the innocent civilian population?
                    Quote: 27091965i
                    The commander’s decision to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end. Inaction, failure to use all the forces, means and opportunities to achieve success, indecision and passivity lead to defeat. Page 1

                    AN ENEMY, I understood correctly 7 The question is not in the destruction of the enemy, but in measures to prevent accidental casualties.
                    Read carefully --- ACCIDENTAL VICTIM EVENTS
                    1. +2
                      25 October 2015 21: 15
                      Quote: atalef
                      Read carefully --- ACCIDENTAL VICTIM EVENTS


                      Now is not the time of chivalry when they went out into the open field. Fights are mainly fought in the settlements where the civilian population is located. Why they didn’t come out, if they were offered a corridor, they can be answered only after taking the settlement. Therefore, "the decision of the commander to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end." The adversary is a generic name.

                      If I am not mistaken, do you think they are not negotiating?
            3. +5
              25 October 2015 15: 25
              to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties?
              1 scattered flyers?
              2 warned by glad about or by phone
              3 made warning bombing with a minimum charge
              4 marked territory with smoke bombs
              5 gave time after all this to the departure of citizens
              6 used precision weapons
              I'm not talking about such objects, such as schools, hospitals, mosques
              Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.
              Barrel throwers
              That's the whole difference.

              ===
              the main thing here is not to organize a revolution
            4. 0
              27 October 2015 00: 10
              Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.

              Yeah. The United States does not crawl out for shooting weddings and bombing hospitals from The Hague. Yes, and Israel behind the BSU in the United Nations school and hospitals there (in The Hague) is not visible.
        2. +6
          25 October 2015 12: 50
          Quote: atalef
          Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

          And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists? Invent a homing head for a barrel? laughing
          1. -3
            25 October 2015 18: 29
            Quote: 0255
            And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists?

            Pyom, quarterly.
            Quote: 0255
            Invent a homing head for a barrel?

            Well, explain it in court, they will enter your position.
            1. 0
              25 October 2015 19: 02
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: 0255
              And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists?

              Pyom, quarterly.

              So that the soldiers who entered the city were shot from the windows of the houses? About the court, I unsubscribed above. That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.
              1. -2
                25 October 2015 19: 38
                Quote: 0255
                So that the soldiers who entered the city were shot from the windows of the houses?

                Spin, we spin
                Quote: 0255
                That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.

                Not at all if the measures described by me have been implemented.
                1. +4
                  25 October 2015 19: 58
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: 0255
                  That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.

                  Not at all if the measures described by me have been implemented.

                  It's my pleasure? belay In Yugoslavia, NATO bombed residential areas in Belgrade, a chemical plant, columns of Albanian refugees from Kosovo, mind you - with precision weapons. 249 soldiers, 22 policemen were killed, 4-6 Yugoslav tanks were destroyed, the same number of armored personnel carriers, and the number of civilian casualties amounted to about 1700 people. - is this in your opinion such a "concern for civilians"?
                  Atalef, you're naive. Flood someone else like NATO "is making efforts to prevent civilian casualties."
                  Look at what Libya has become after the "democratization" of NATO bombs, taking care of civilians just like that am
                  1. -6
                    25 October 2015 20: 48
                    Quote: 0255
                    249 soldiers, 22 policemen were killed, 4-6 Yugoslav tanks were destroyed, the same number of armored personnel carriers, and the number of civilian casualties amounted to about 1700 people. - is this in your opinion such a "concern for civilians"?

                    So what's the problem ? Let them sue good
                    Quote: 0255
                    Atalef, you're naive. Flood someone else like NATO "is making efforts to prevent civilian casualties."

                    I am real, everything that I write happens with us.
                    Quote: 0255
                    Look at what Libya has become after the "democratization" of NATO bombs, taking care of civilians just like that

                    You know, I don’t give a damn about Libya. If someone rapes, this does not mean that I can do the same thing.
                    I see a difference in approach
                    Therefore - barrel bombs and the death of civilians, for you = -norm. in order to achieve a goal
                    For us, no.
                    Maybe the results are therefore different. hi
                    1. +5
                      25 October 2015 20: 59
                      I see a difference in approach
                      Therefore - barrel bombs and the death of civilians, for you = -norm. in order to achieve a goal
                      For us, no.
                      Maybe the results are therefore different. hi


                      So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.
                      I am really glad that there is such a clean and naive person like you.
                      1. -2
                        25 October 2015 21: 02
                        Quote: Your friend
                        So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.

                        such ?
                      2. +1
                        25 October 2015 21: 17
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.

                        such ?

                        No, like naive Chukchi young men who believe in the Hague Tribunal)))
                      3. +2
                        25 October 2015 22: 29
                        Yes, these are exactly you and your overseas friends. guilty of destroying millions. all over the earth.
                    2. +1
                      25 October 2015 22: 24
                      Quote: atalef
                      So what's the problem ? Let them sue good

                      Can you still believe in the honesty and integrity of the Hague Tribunal, which in Yugoslavia accused only Serbs and turned a blind eye to the atrocities of the Croats and Albanians, as well as the Americans dropping uranium bombs?
        3. +1
          26 October 2015 23: 59
          Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties.

          Written by a citizen of a state "parting" on the UN, Geneva, IAEA and others in the field of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction.
          ... shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of saltpeter

          The drop height compensates for the lack of electronics and the trajectory correction, the accuracy depends on the pilot's experience. The manpower efficiency in field shelters and unarmored vehicles is comparable. The cost of FAB and homemade products are significantly different. Why overpay? After all, Israel does not demolish all the houses of "Palestinian terrorists" with missile and bomb strikes, but uses specially armored bulldozers, since it is cheaper. Similarly, the Syrians "optimize" costs.
    3. +1
      25 October 2015 12: 49
      Where in the passage you mentioned about humanity?) Who are you asking the question to?
    4. 0
      26 October 2015 23: 32
      Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

      Industrial FABs for ISIL and Co., and self-made (moderate) ones for the "moderate" opposition.
      "Good" terrorists get good coffins, and "bad" ones get bad ones.
  9. +4
    25 October 2015 08: 27
    Perhaps a message will soon appear that we should be afraid of all the barrels standing on the ground. What a little! What a horror!
    1. +2
      25 October 2015 09: 38
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Perhaps a message will soon appear that we should be afraid of all the barrels standing on the ground. What a little! What a horror!

      Yeah, I have barrels in the country ... Right now, they will write me down as terrorists laughing
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 00: 04
        Yeah, I have barrels in the country ...

        Probably there is also an APPARATUS for the production of a liquid that can be used in "Molotov cocktails"?
  10. +9
    25 October 2015 08: 28
    Nicho Nicho, the time of Western mini-Goebbels is approaching
  11. +3
    25 October 2015 08: 47
    The worst weapon for the West is the exposure of their crooked fakes, for then people start to THINK.
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    1. ICT
      +1
      25 October 2015 09: 16
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      Jani Radari “Gelsomino in the land of liars” was documentary.

      for both points of view, wink lol
    2. +8
      25 October 2015 12: 32
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      Two-faced mu ... ki, everything they have built on a lie.

      Yes, all of them are big dreamers and storytellers there. You can still recall how Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahu dishonored the whole world showing from the UN rostrum a picture of the Iranian nuclear bomb he imagines lolThe laughter was smile

      The main thing for them is to start misinformation and after that it is possible to bomb someone and other things that are not entirely beautiful to do.
    3. +1
      25 October 2015 22: 25
      Two-faced mu ... ki, everything they have built on a lie.

      The USA is an empire of lies. And their father, Satan, is a liar and father of lies.
  13. +4
    25 October 2015 09: 22
    And the villains - the Assadists - stuffed this "bomb" with some white powder (

    Unfortunately, the author who raised a rather important problem does not understand at all what he writes about. request
    And the villains - the Assadists - stuffed this "bomb" with some white powder (


    This white powder - not TNT, but a handicraft made by explosives - most likely a mixture of ammonium nitrate with aluminum powder. This cheap and easy to manufacture surrogate explosive is powerful enough, but also very capricious in terms of reliability. Being very hydroscopic, it absorbs water losing its explosive properties.
    1. +6
      25 October 2015 09: 43
      Quote: Bongo
      This white powder - not TNT, but a handicraft made by explosives - most likely a mixture of ammonium nitrate with aluminum powder. This cheap and easy to manufacture surrogate explosive is powerful enough, but also very capricious in terms of reliability. Being very hydroscopic, it absorbs water losing its explosive properties.

      If this bomb was intended for Islamists, it is a pity that it did not explode.
      1. +4
        25 October 2015 09: 48
        Quote: 0255
        If this bomb was intended for Islamists, it is a pity that it did not explode.

        And there is. Yes The Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the "world community" for some reason did not notice this.
        1. -5
          25 October 2015 18: 32
          Quote: Bongo
          The Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the "world community" for some reason did not notice this

          Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row.
          Now come in handy for ourselves.
          1. 0
            25 October 2015 18: 58
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Bongo
            The Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the "world community" for some reason did not notice this

            Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row.
            Now come in handy for ourselves.

            Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?
            1. -4
              25 October 2015 19: 15
              Quote: Your friend
              Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?

              EEEE, do not slow down at the level of the African elephant, since when do suicide belts drop from helicopters?
              Or do you think saltpeter with aluminum powder can only be rolled up in barrels?
              In Syria, the official representative offices of Hamas and Islamic Jihad were opened (well, and a dozen other territorial organizations.) - with training camps and the entire infrastructure.
              Now they are all against him and are fighting.
              1. 0
                25 October 2015 19: 36
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Your friend
                Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?

                EEEE, do not slow down at the level of the African elephant, since when do suicide belts drop from helicopters?
                Or do you think saltpeter with aluminum powder can only be rolled up in barrels?
                In Syria, the official representative offices of Hamas and Islamic Jihad were opened (well, and a dozen other territorial organizations.) - with training camps and the entire infrastructure.
                Now they are all against him and are fighting.

                It's funny that the thread is about bombs from helicopters, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, in the manufacture of bombs" what bombs and helicopters does Hamas have ???? And you still ask me not to slow down ???? Hahahaha ...
                1. 0
                  25 October 2015 20: 22
                  Quote: Your friend
                  ricko speech in the thread is about bombs from helicopters, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, in the manufacture of bombs

                  But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore? wink
                  1. +2
                    25 October 2015 20: 28
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Your friend
                    ricko speech in the thread is about bombs from helicopters, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, in the manufacture of bombs

                    But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore? wink


                    Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (
                    1. -1
                      25 October 2015 20: 49
                      Quote: Your friend
                      Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (

                      You are talking about helicopters, and I'm talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
                      1. +1
                        25 October 2015 21: 00
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (

                        You are talking about helicopters, and I'm talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

                        This is not me, this is the whole branch about helicopters and bombs from them. And you have about Hamas and Islamic Jihad (
                      2. +1
                        25 October 2015 22: 32
                        not a topic like that. we are talking about bombs.
          2. +1
            27 October 2015 00: 16
            Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row belts. Now it is useful for themselves.

            Israeli instructors of the Syrian rebels are also not teaching herbariums to collect and supply Al-Nusra and Co. not paints with brushes, but weapons.
    2. +2
      25 October 2015 09: 45
      Quote: Bongo
      hydroscopic

      Guyгroscopic. hi
      1. +1
        25 October 2015 09: 51
        Quote: Corporal
        Hygroscopic

        Thank you hi
    3. +8
      25 October 2015 13: 17

      To be honest, the photo is extremely similar to the staged one, if the barrel fell from such a great height that it entered the ground so deeply, at least it should have stood up all the tiles "nearest" to it, which is lined with the road, and the cut of the tiles that adjoins the barrel is even as if it had been neatly cut off.
  14. +9
    25 October 2015 09: 48
    Well, yes, of course ...... throwing nuclear "Kids" and "Fatties" on the heads of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki is a prank (there is no need to apologize), but tossing barrels at terrorists is sheer "chaos".
    Where does the public look only?
  15. ICT
    0
    25 October 2015 09: 58
    Quote: Author Roman Katkov
    In fact, analyzing the photos and videos posted on the Web that these are fakes,


    let's get rid of rhetoric and analyze this video


    ..........
    as for me, this is a barrel dropped into the territory occupied by the enemy, the destroyed part of the buildings and it is not clear whether it fell into that godfather.


    and the author of the article is just the same journalist as the foreign media. distorting facts, NOT more than that
  16. +6
    25 October 2015 11: 02
    If my memory serves me right, these weapons were widely used by Israel in its first wars with the Arabs, compensating for the absence of bombers. Only there the barrels were not dropped from helicopters, but transport aircraft were used. There was a precedent when they sent a plane loaded with barrels in auto mode to one of the objects of the Arabs.
  17. +3
    25 October 2015 11: 28
    To smoke the enemy from shelters, buildings, basements in Chechnya, they used RPGs with packages of ordinary chloramine b attached to a grenade, which is also not a "humane" but effective weapon.
  18. +3
    25 October 2015 11: 31
    information war is becoming increasingly important .......
  19. Are
    +1
    25 October 2015 13: 50
    Quote: Volga Cossack
    information war is becoming increasingly important .......

    War is garbage, the main thing is how to file it .. wink You can agree to the complete insanity that nuclear weapons are the most humane .... fool
  20. +2
    25 October 2015 14: 47
    and they say they still strewed white powder on the igilys, and they in a panic decided that this was a chemical weapon
    it turned out - flour)))
  21. +4
    25 October 2015 15: 01
    Quote: professor

    Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.
    Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 15: 31
      Quote: Eugene30
      Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

      Do not worry so much about them. "Palestinians" live better than Russians. And their mortality rate is less than yours, and life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. Worry about yourself.
      1. +3
        25 October 2015 15: 45
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Eugene30
        Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

        Do not worry so much about them. "Palestinians" live better than Russians. And their mortality rate is less than yours, and life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. Worry about yourself.

        You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))
        And what mortality in Germany and Britain, horror. So it seems the Palestinians live better than the Germans. To cite mortality as an argument for a better Palestinian life is such insanity, with an average age in Palestine of about 18-19 years. This proves a lot))))
        You are such a professor.
        http://ru.theglobaleconomy.com/compare-countries/
        1. -2
          25 October 2015 15: 50
          Quote: Your friend
          You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))

          Young man, learn the materiel.
          Россия 70.47
          Judea and Samaria 75.91

          LIFE EXPECTANCY AT BIRTH

          PS
          Even in Gaza they live longer than yours (74.87). sad
          1. +2
            25 October 2015 15: 59
            [quote = professor] [quote = Your friend] You lied again in 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. They lied 2,3 times.))) [/ Quote]
            Young man, learn the materiel.
            Россия 70.47
            Judea and Samaria 75.91

            You are really delusional. Your "Palestine" (you yourself wrote so) suddenly became "Judea and Samaria" ???))))
            How about an example that the Russian Foreign Ministry called the SSA terrorists?
            What about the evidence of your words that Europeans bring Syrians to their place ???
            Do not forget?
            PS Even in Gaza? Well, and in Gaza the death rate is probably lower than in Germany, which is probably why they live better than in Germany. Excellent professor - you are the best.)))
          2. +3
            25 October 2015 16: 17
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Your friend
            You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))

            Young man, learn the materiel.
            Россия 70.47
            Judea and Samaria 75.91



            PS
            Even in Gaza they live longer than yours (74.87). sad


            You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....
            PS. But what about your data from the desk that found the WMD in Iraq? Well, the one that provided the test tube with powder, which was shocked at the UN by a person from the USA? Good data you have)))
            1. +2
              25 October 2015 17: 07
              All that the professor wants to present here about the so-called short life expectancy in Russia is simply a fraud.
              In fact, everything is "a little" wrong.
              In 1961-1962, the average life expectancy of the population of the RSFSR was 68,8 years, by 1990 it had not changed and amounted to 69,2 years
              In 1991, the USSR collapsed, followed by radical reforms and the associated socio-economic crisis, which negatively affected the life expectancy of the population.
              By 1995, the average life expectancy of the population of Russia fell to 64,5 years. Since 2004, a steady increase in life expectancy began. In 2013, it grew to 70,8 years.

              http://newsruss.ru/doc/index.php/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B6%D0%B

              8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD

              %D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81

              %D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8

              That is, we reached the standard of living at 70 years old in 1990 (25 years ago), but then in connection with the coming to power of various reformers such as Chubais, Gaidar, Berezovsky, and so on, drug addiction flourished in the country under the "leadership" of Yeltsin. , alcoholism, tobacco smoking, crime has grown tremendously, I mean murder, heart disease and life expectancy has dropped dramatically.
              Therefore, we have now actually only reached the life expectancy that existed under socialism, and in the fall in life expectancy, we should be "grateful" to the reforms and reformers of the 90s.
              Here are the data from another site on life expectancy in the USSR / Russia:
              1917 32
              1927 44
              1939 47
              1955 64
              1956 67
              1958 68
              1959 69
              1961 70
              1975 70,4
              1980 70,9
              1985 71,4
              1990 69,5
              1995 64
              1. +1
                25 October 2015 17: 18
                Again, I forgot to add that life expectancy in "warm" countries where there is no winter for half a year and other "changes" of nature and there is a fairly basic health care always above remember where in our country, for example, most centenarians are right in the Caucasus - where it is always warm (Africa , We will not take into account India's terrible unsanitary conditions there, and there is really little to eat)
            2. -1
              25 October 2015 18: 09
              Quote: Your friend
              You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....

              No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

              Farewell hi
              1. +1
                25 October 2015 19: 27
                Quote: professor
                No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

                What's the use? At least 99,9 years ..... Russians in this are different from you. Well, until 65-70 you still can do something - and then you are a burden, both for relatives and for the state. What good is it from you if besides gas !!! are you not producing anything?
                Our, Russian people, more practical than the Jewish ones, died, appeared before God, umuntul for all sins, and here he was born again.)))
                What about the Jews? They cling to life worthless until noon, they will create a bunch of problems for everyone - from relatives, doctors and to carers, they still can’t decide who to leave the junk on.
                We have nothing to lose, they lived and left - they repented and returned))))))))) Optimal 70, but that would have fallen asleep and did not wake up.
                1. -3
                  25 October 2015 20: 25
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  .Russians and in this they differ from you. Well, until 65-70 you still can do something - and then you are a burden, both for relatives and for the state

                  Indeed, they differ, we have animals, not a burden either for relatives or for the state.
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  What good is it from you if besides gas !!! are you not producing anything?

                  Gazprom - dreams come true?
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Ashi, Russian people, more practical than the Jewish ones — died, appeared before God, mantained for all sins, and here he was born again.

                  Baobab?
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  What about the Jews? They cling to life worthless until noon, they will create a bunch of problems for everyone - from relatives, doctors and to carers, they still can’t decide who to leave the junk on.

                  Now I will pay.
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  We have nothing to lose, they lived and left - they repented and returned))

                  Are back
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  23. 0
    25 October 2015 16: 21
    And in my opinion in these barrels of bleach - so that moderate-free-democratic medieval homeless people organized with Turkish, American, Saudi and Israeli money do not become seedlings of the plague. winked
  24. 0
    25 October 2015 16: 50
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Eugene30
    Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

    Do not worry so much about them. "Palestinians" live better than Russians. And their mortality rate is less than yours, and life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. Worry about yourself.

    Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?
    1. -3
      25 October 2015 18: 13
      Quote: Eugene30
      Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

      I usually don’t feed trolls ...
      In case of "genocide" do they live 5 years longer than you? wink
      1. +1
        25 October 2015 19: 44
        Quote: professor
        In case of "genocide" do they live 5 years longer than you?

        I don’t know how about five years, but somehow I’ve come across people who have passed the northern camps in my life, in the Perm Territory, in the Komi Republic (the Gulag), the climate is not the same. What is characteristic is that these people, despite their age, have fairly good health, excellent memory, are not poorly educated, and certainly do not look their age — at least you can remove them from 10-15 years. How to explain it? It seems that under extreme conditions, the human body includes some kind of reserves tuned to make the body resist time and circumstances. But what is characteristic is that they (the Gulag) are self-sufficient, while the long-lived drug-livers are simply a burden.
        May God grant health to everyone .... Just observation.
        1. -1
          25 October 2015 19: 48
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          How to explain it?

          This is called natural selection. The strongest survived. This does not apply to the Philistines. There, as can be seen from the statistics, almost everyone survives.
        2. -3
          25 October 2015 20: 28
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          How to explain it?

          No way, the weak died long ago - but this does not mean at all that they did not want to live or did not deserve a happy long life
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          But what is characteristic is that they (the Gulag) are self-sufficient, while the long-lived drug-livers are simply a burden.

          A burden? For whom ?
          Send your mom and dad to the Gulag (not for you personally, so for those who wish), so that they become self-sufficient, otherwise God forbid, you will have to spend money on medicines.
          hi
    2. -1
      25 October 2015 18: 34
      Quote: Eugene30
      Quote: professor
      Quote: Eugene30
      Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

      Do not worry so much about them. "Palestinians" live better than Russians. And their mortality rate is less than yours, and life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. Worry about yourself.

      Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

      In relation to whom? If in Russia life expectancy is less than in Palestine (by 5 years) - maybe you would prefer that you would be genocidal too?
      1. +2
        25 October 2015 18: 50
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Eugene30
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Eugene30
        Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

        Do not worry so much about them. "Palestinians" live better than Russians. And their mortality rate is less than yours, and life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. Worry about yourself.

        Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

        In relation to whom? If in Russia life expectancy is less than in Palestine (by 5 years) - maybe you would prefer that you would be genocidal too?


        Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?
        1. -2
          25 October 2015 19: 40
          Quote: Your friend
          Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?

          Who cares ? We are talking about life expectancy.
          1. +1
            25 October 2015 19: 45
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Your friend
            Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?

            Who cares ? We are talking about life expectancy.

            Indeed, none, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, a microscopic amount of old people. That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?
            1. -1
              25 October 2015 20: 31
              Quote: Your friend
              indeed, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, there are a microscopic number of old people.

              Yes ? I wonder how they have an average life expectancy of 75 years?
              Did you learn math?
              Quote: Your friend
              That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?

              And since when did we occupy Palestine? Since 1948 wink
              Already one youth has reached the age of 75. wink
              1. +2
                25 October 2015 20: 37
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Your friend
                indeed, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, there are a microscopic number of old people.

                Yes ? I wonder how they have an average life expectancy of 75 years?
                Did you learn math?
                Quote: Your friend
                That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?

                And since when did we occupy Palestine? Since 1948 wink
                Already one youth has reached the age of 75. wink


                What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...
                1. -2
                  25 October 2015 21: 14
                  Quote: Your friend
                  What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...

                  This is who has an average age of 75 at palaces? Do we have 82? belay
                  It is about average life expectancy.
                  For those who are in the tank. one lived to 80, the second to 60. both seem to be up to 70.
                  Got it?
                  Life expectancy is one of the most important indicators
                  quality of life.
                  1. +2
                    25 October 2015 21: 24
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Your friend
                    What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...

                    This is who has an average age of 75 at palaces? Do we have 82? belay
                    It is about average life expectancy.
                    For those who are in the tank. one lived to 80, the second to 60. both seem to be up to 70.
                    Got it?
                    Life expectancy is one of the most important indicators
                    quality of life.


                    You have an average age of 82 years in Israel ???????????????????? Ahahahahha ...
                    Once again, look on the Internet how the average age differs from the average life expectancy. Do not take a break. Ahahaha ....
                    Got it?

                    Seriously, look at the Internet for the difference in these terms and how they are considered. It is just a shame that you carry.
                    By the way, I turn to you, you are all the same unfamiliar to us. Be more polite.
  25. +1
    25 October 2015 18: 28
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Eugene30
    Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

    I usually don’t feed trolls ...
    In case of "genocide" do they live 5 years longer than you? wink

    Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically. In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers. These are all facts recorded by international organizations, and this happens all the time. You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 18: 34
      Quote: Eugene30
      I would say they live longer only theoretically.

      No, not theoretically. This is their own data confirmed by WHO. By the way, at our own expense, we treat 140 "Palestinians" a year, supply Gaza with water and electricity free of charge, and at this time they have 000 newborns per 31.11 population. It is the 1,000th largest birth rate in the world. In comparison, you have 37, which is 11.6th in the world. Here is a "genocide". fellow
    2. -2
      25 October 2015 18: 41
      Quote: Eugene30
      Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

      Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
      Quote: Eugene30
      In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

      Apparently, it does not end.
      Quote: Eugene30
      then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

      That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
      Quote: Eugene30
      You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

      This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi
      1. 0
        25 October 2015 18: 47
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Eugene30
        Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

        Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
        Quote: Eugene30
        In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

        Apparently, it does not end.
        Quote: Eugene30
        then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

        That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
        Quote: Eugene30
        You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

        This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi


        Is it not difficult to provide evidence of the standard of living in Russia and in Palestine?
      2. +2
        25 October 2015 19: 53
        Quote: atalef
        This is your own life for nothing, if you cry for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than the Russian

        You know, but this example is not entirely correct ...... Palestine, it is also in AFRICA Palestine ...
        Take Russia - there is everything your heart desires - tropics, subtropics, arctic, steppes, tundra, etc. - if we take the Caucasus, then we stick long-livers with 1X1, and if the polar region ... then alas, here everything is shorter with a duration, since the life processes are different (half a day, half a year polar night) - and if everyone is aligned across all regions - then we get the average duration, which you take for the "trump card" for the whole of Russia.
        Do not be a jerk)))
        1. -1
          25 October 2015 20: 53
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          You know, but this example is not entirely correct ...... Palestine, it is also in AFRICA Palestine ..

          Palestine in Africa !!! , So I would listen and listen. good
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Take Russia - there is everything your heart desires - the tropics, subtropics, the Arctic, the steppes, the tundra, etc. - if you take the Caucasus, we will stick the centenarians 1X1

          And I have an employee father 102 - stick horseradish laughing
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          and if we align everyone in all regions, then we get the average duration, which you take as the "trump card" for all of Russia.

          Take Norway, is it like the climate is not subtropical, or Canada? - and so what?
          Trump?
          1. 0
            26 October 2015 10: 07
            Quote: atalef
            Palestine in Africa !!! , So I would listen and listen.

            Well, you understand that it’s figurative wink laughing
  26. +1
    25 October 2015 18: 30
    Ahahahaha .... The professor added me to the blacklist.))) How shallow and cowardly, for such a respectable person respected in the forum)))) Ayayay ...
    1. +4
      25 October 2015 18: 58
      He needs to work out ... and here you are with your arguments. wink
      1. +1
        25 October 2015 19: 02
        Quote: Barkhan
        He needs to work out ... and here you are with your arguments. wink

        Well, in general, I used to read his comments, he had good thoughts especially in arms, when he slightly lowered our urapatriots, for whom the ak-47 is the pinnacle of military thought. I just did not know that the professor is so touchy)))
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          1. 0
            25 October 2015 19: 42
            Yes, we have a lot of bad things to fix. And our standard of living is lower than in Israel, and the army of Israel is strong. It's like that. But that nonsense that the professor writes is something.
          2. -2
            25 October 2015 20: 33
            Quote: Barkhan
            . It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is the most important thing.

            And hearts laughing
            Quote: Barkhan
            . Again they are trying to (so far softly, but more insistently and impudently) to suggest that being a patriot is ashamed and not advanced

            good
            Quote: Barkhan
            Well, that's enough! Let's start raking

            Well, well, intelligence
            1. +5
              25 October 2015 21: 11
              Thank you, but without your invitation, I’ll figure it out at home. Jews always overestimate their intelligence. And then they are found in Mexico and London, in the bathroom with a scarf around their neck.
              I do not pretend to be highly intelligent or highly educated. But I will do everything possible from me so that the enemies do not insult my fellow citizens.
              1. +1
                25 October 2015 21: 28
                Quote: Barkhan
                Thank you, but without your invitation, I’ll figure it out at home. Jews always overestimate their intelligence. And then they are found in Mexico and London, in the bathroom with a scarf around their neck.
                I do not pretend to be highly intelligent or highly educated. But I will do everything possible from me so that the enemies do not insult my fellow citizens.

                Yes, what kind of enemies they entertain me, I don’t know about you, one has an average age = AVERAGE LIFE, another has mortality as a criterion of a standard of living.)))
  27. +10
    25 October 2015 18: 45
    The professor is not as simple as it seems. A clever, well-read, quirky, cunning, cunning ... enemy. Everything that is connected with Russia, its actions or its allies is obseratsya systematically, juicy and with "evidence". Laughs and is overwhelmed by "facts and documents. "Everything that is connected with the United States or Israel is brilliant and wonderful. What is only today the video of the destroyed Syrian tanks ... ". His compatriot Aron Zaavi tried to besiege him, saying that the Syrian tankers are not so cowardly ... But the man suffered and it is impossible to stop. In general, one can speak of courage in such a situation, one can only visit it personally.
    And yet I respect the Professor. He honestly does his job. For money or ideologically, it doesn’t matter. This is even useful for the site. So as not to relax. Friends need to be kept close and enemies even closer.
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 18: 53
      Quote: Barkhan
      The professor is not as simple as it seems. A clever, well-read, quirky, cunning, cunning ... enemy. Everything that is connected with Russia, its actions or its allies is obseratsya systematically, juicy and with "evidence". Laughs and is overwhelmed by "facts and documents. "Everything that is connected with the United States or Israel is brilliant and wonderful. What is only today the video of the destroyed Syrian tanks ... ". His compatriot Aron Zaavi tried to besiege him, saying that the Syrian tankers are not so cowardly ... But the man suffered and it is impossible to stop. In general, one can speak of courage in such a situation, one can only visit it personally.
      And yet I respect the Professor. He honestly does his job. For money or ideologically, it doesn’t matter. This is even useful for the site. So as not to relax. Friends need to be kept close and enemies even closer.

      Clever? He did the stuffing, and when you ask him the question where the data came from, the evidence will be presented, not one answer, a lie, and then an emergency))))
      1. +4
        25 October 2015 18: 59
        The training manual is not rubber, however ...
    2. +2
      25 October 2015 19: 06
      I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.
      1. -1
        25 October 2015 19: 41
        Quote: raid14
        I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.

        SHABAK? belay Shabak does not do this.
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 19: 47
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: raid14
          I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.

          SHABAK? belay Shabak does not do this.

          Well, you know better in Shabak ... (brush)
        2. 0
          26 October 2015 10: 50
          MAMAD and a bunch of other organizations are engaged in social networks in Israel. That is, the Israeli counterintelligence does not collect and does not process information on the Internet, you still keep us stupid.
  28. +5
    25 October 2015 18: 54
    Regarding bombs ... The site probably has Comrades in the subject? ... We have a lot of warehouses and storage facilities with expired, or close to this, ammunition. Their disposal also rises a penny. And if they are poured on "moderately"? To fill the barrel with mortar mines or artillery shells, the effect will be more serious? And we don't seem to go beyond the framework of the "Geneva conventions". For reliability, the initiating charge is attached. Well, who needs to come up with something.
    1. +1
      25 October 2015 18: 56
      Quote: Barkhan
      Who knows? Worth the game of candles?

      The fill factor in this case will be low and there is a high probability that not all will detonate. In an explosion, it scatters them.
      1. +5
        25 October 2015 19: 37
        It seems that everything detonates during explosions during disposal. And I would say a bunch of mines with a barrel is not sickly, it’s buzzing. There were a lot of bombs under the Union of Aviation too. As I understand it, looking at the ruins, there is no question of further gallant bombing?
        1. -1
          25 October 2015 20: 36
          Quote: Barkhan
          With explosions during disposal, everything seems to detonate

          Quote: Barkhan
          .And I would say a bunch of mines with a barrel is not sickly, so it’s buzzing

          yes, the first ball in the fight
          Quote: Barkhan
          .It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

          somehow weak negative
          1. +4
            27 October 2015 11: 13
            What hurt you about the fight, it’s probably said that you’re a minor most likely ... I personally attended the disposal of ammunition. with a Jew? That's good. I'm not going to lie.
    2. -1
      25 October 2015 19: 43
      Quote: Barkhan
      "If you fill the barrel with mortar mines or artillery shells, the effect will be more serious? And we don't seem to go beyond the" Geneva Conventions ".

      It turns out that the problem is not explosives, but the fact that this type of ammunition excludes targeted bombing.
      1. +6
        25 October 2015 20: 13
        Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.
        1. -3
          25 October 2015 20: 54
          Quote: Barkhan
          Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.

          what did you say there?
          Quote: Barkhan
          b.It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

          2-0, obviously not in yours hi
          1. +5
            25 October 2015 21: 19
            Actually, it was a joke, but you can have a different gradation of humor near the coast of the M. Sea ... I would like to ask you to stop "poking" at strangers. Even if you are overwhelmed with emotions.
            1. +1
              25 October 2015 21: 30
              Quote: Barkhan
              Actually, it was a joke, but you can have a different gradation of humor near the coast of the M. Sea ... I would like to ask you to stop "poking" at strangers. Even if you are overwhelmed with emotions.

              He has a defensive reaction when there is nothing to answer. And since I believe in him, even because of powerlessness in the emergency situation, he doesn’t throw him like a professor)))
              1. +5
                25 October 2015 23: 02
                We’ll see, see ... but educated people, even tearing each other with skewers in a duel, must remain polite ... Otherwise, it resembles the stench of the field when you accidentally step into a bunch of d ....
          2. +1
            25 October 2015 21: 46
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Barkhan
            Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.

            what did you say there?
            Quote: Barkhan
            b.It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

            2-0, obviously not in yours hi

            2-0 ??? Atalef, confess you are still a minor? An adult, such nonsense does not write. (
      2. 0
        25 October 2015 20: 15
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Barkhan
        "If you fill the barrel with mortar mines or artillery shells, the effect will be more serious? And we don't seem to go beyond the" Geneva Conventions ".

        It turns out that the problem is not explosives, but the fact that this type of ammunition excludes targeted bombing.

        Still, you can answer me, otherwise you began to ignore the campaign as a professor))), when and where did the barrel bombs be banned?
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  29. -1
    25 October 2015 18: 59
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Eugene30
    Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

    Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
    Quote: Eugene30
    In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

    Apparently, it does not end.
    Quote: Eugene30
    then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

    That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
    Quote: Eugene30
    You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

    This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi

    Are you all so quirky Jews? That one, that the second insists on the standard of living in Palestine in comparison with Russia. And proving this, that Israel does not carry out the systematic expulsion of Palestinians from their land, about the permanent bombing and other terror.
    1. -3
      25 October 2015 19: 45
      Quote: Eugene30
      Are you all so quirky Jews?

      No, we just champed it for more than a dozen years, now here you are, wellcome to our club.
      Quote: Eugene30
      And proving this, that Israel does not carry out the systematic expulsion of Palestinians from their land, about the permanent bombing and other terror.

      Well, it’s someone who has terror, since all vital signs - from child mortality to life expectancy in Palestine are higher than in Russia (and Syria is the same) hi
      1. 0
        25 October 2015 19: 47
        Quote: atalef
        Well, it’s someone who has terror, since all vital signs - from child mortality to life expectancy in Palestine are higher than in Russia (and Syria is the same)

        I guess who provided this ... wink laughing
        1. -1
          25 October 2015 20: 58
          Quote: Alex28
          I guess who provided this ..

          The standard of living in Palestine. Of course, Russia, she does not get used to at her own expense - to improve the lives of others (you wanted to say this)?
      2. +2
        25 October 2015 19: 55
        So you did not answer me:
        Is it not difficult to provide evidence of the standard of living in Russia and in Palestine?
        And on this phrase of yours, "If out of 100 tons of Russian citizens, about 3% chose to return to Russia" - 3% otkel?

        Child mortality Palestine 22,93, Russia 10,7. Again, become like a professor. Not good.
        In Syria for 2010 14,9.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%

        D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8E_%D0%BC%D0%BB

        %D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%

        D1%80%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8
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          1. 0
            25 October 2015 20: 30
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_уровню_младенческой_смертности
            Sorry)
            1. 0
              25 October 2015 20: 36
              Quote: Your friend
              .wikipedia

              That is enough.
  30. 0
    25 October 2015 20: 31
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Your friend
    You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....

    No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

    Farewell hi
    That's why you dumped there? Want to live longer? laughing
    1. -3
      25 October 2015 20: 35
      Quote: Iskander
      That's why you dumped there? Want to live longer?

      On the contrary. Here the standard of living is higher and the duration is longer because I and people like me dumped here and created a flowering garden here.
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 00: 19
        You will need a couple of revolutions, several wars, collectivization, privatization, then you will tryndet about the standard of living and its duration. And if we didn’t let you, you wouldn’t be there. It’s not rude in my rules, but I can’t! If you want to know my opinion about Israel, it is complicated. One thing is clear - you have plenty of fascism, although you don’t call it that, and it’s almost no better than Palestinians. It’s a pity for ordinary people both here and there! But pride is a great sin if the word sin means something to you. God understands everything, but do you understand Him?
        1. +4
          27 October 2015 09: 09
          And what kind of interesting people are those who have arranged all this bugging for us? If you bring the microscope closer, almost all the Jews will turn out to be. Nothing bad about the Jews ... they just know how. Young people. And the revolution, and privatization, and many more (relatively peaceful) ways of taking money from the population. I have many Jewish acquaintances, excellent doctors, engineers, teachers ... maybe it’s just that the dough flows are not the same, but they still haven’t shown their character. It’s stupid to be offended by people who know how to get out of such a virtuoso in this life ... you just have to always remember this.
      2. +4
        27 October 2015 08: 59
        A blooming garden, heaven or hell ... everyone has his own idea. I, as I don’t watch the report from Israel, have sand and stones ... How not to ennoble the desert anyway. But here, as they say to an amateur, I love pristine nature. Well, it’s even funny to talk about the difference in the size of states. You can lay out spitting on the sea with Persian rugs and roses in three layers. And it’s more difficult to improve a large territory. There have recently been attempts to separate, reduce its territory and heal in Europe .. The result is sad request
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  31. +1
    26 October 2015 01: 00
    Quote: Alex28
    Oh, this crap works in the west. Are people really stupefied at the end?

    I was in the USA when I was studying in 1995. On the one hand, I really liked the people - for the most part they were friendly, polite, tactful. On the other hand, I got the impression that they generally care about everything except family and work - there’s absolutely nothing to talk about. It seems to me that they don’t watch and listen to it all, but flip it from channel to channel ...
  32. +2
    26 October 2015 06: 35
    It would be much more efficient to fill the barrels with pig manure. "Non-lethal ammunition", t.s.
    1. -2
      26 October 2015 07: 02
      Quote: Horn
      It would be much more efficient to fill the barrels with pig manure. "Non-lethal ammunition", t.s.

      good
      1. +5
        27 October 2015 10: 59
        And why are you happy, ammunition with such a filling can be used on both sides of the border.
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  34. 0
    26 October 2015 14: 31
    Quote: Taygerus
    As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool

    They are always trying, you see, they will come up with some terrible lie that their electorate will believe in, and will sell the solution they need ... this is war, there are no rules, there is no honor, there is no conscience.
  35. 0
    26 October 2015 23: 15
    "Barrel - bomb" will explode near Geyropa when oil reaches $ 100-150!
  36. +3
    26 October 2015 23: 23
    That srach is then bred. I always respected the interlocutors from Israel on this site, but in my opinion, this time they specifically suffered! What hooked you, professor and atalef, so much that you went down to the banal transitions to comparing nationalities and actually insulting Russia and Russians, forgetting to put punctuation marks at the same time? And do not convince me that due to the fact that you dumped, the standard of living has worsened here)
    1. +4
      27 October 2015 09: 16
      It is unintentionally wink It escaped. Then, it makes sense, it calms down and everything becomes much thinner. These are smart guys.
    2. +1
      27 October 2015 10: 42
      Quote: Alexander2012
      That srach is then bred. I always respected the interlocutors from Israel on this site, but in my opinion, this time they specifically suffered! What hooked you, professor and atalef, so much that you went down to the banal transitions to comparing nationalities and actually insulting Russia and Russians, forgetting to put punctuation marks at the same time? And do not convince me that due to the fact that you dumped, the standard of living has worsened here)

      Because they began to lie a lot, and when they were poked into their lies here, the real essence of these gentlemen was revealed.
    3. +2
      27 October 2015 18: 49
      I don’t understand what you all argue with moishes here? They are the same special as those who are in the Netherlands, there is no aircraft industry, there is no auto industry, but there is no nichrome, Jews serve women, bl. and all the same there are specialists, I understand with the Germans, French or Japanese with amers, they at least let out their own, but why did they sign up for it? After the American alterations?
  37. +1
    27 October 2015 00: 17
    Strange, but when the KAB-500 falls on the heads of unsuspecting people, are they somehow satisfied? Bombs from the barrel will obviously be weaker. What is the noise?
  38. 0
    27 October 2015 00: 22
    Quote: atalef
    But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore?

    Bombs on the bus explode from a blow to the ground? You do not find that they (bombs) are a fundamentally different way to activate (detonate)?
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  40. +1
    27 October 2015 09: 41
    professor (6) IL October 25, 2015 20:28 ↑
    Quote: Barkhan
    If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
    1. Do not squeeze.
    2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 10: 44
      Quote: lurk
      professor (6) IL October 25, 2015 20:28 ↑
      Quote: Barkhan
      If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
      1. Do not squeeze.
      2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.

      Well, thank God.)))
  41. +1
    27 October 2015 09: 47
    Quote: professor
    Agreed. hi

    ohhhh already shaved
  42. 0
    27 October 2015 13: 33
    Americans do not invent anything, they describe and classify to others what they themselves use everywhere. It’s just that they have established it in industrial production and put it on stream, and it is simply not possible for the same Syrians to organize the production of means of mass destruction of the enemy so clearly. It was a chemical weapon as opposed to a Jewish atomic bomb, but it was taken away. Jews waved their bombs and pulled territory from Syria. And then the Syrians began to run out of moderate bombs, and they began to sculpt them from everything that came to hand. But what if there are no moderate bombs, then everything, Khan, to surrender at the mercy of the enemy?
    The Armenian radio is asked the question: What is stronger than vodka or the atomic bomb? Answers AR: Yes, nevermind, if only knocked down.
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  44. 0
    27 October 2015 18: 57
    Quote: Tatiana

    In the theory of warfare, such “stuffing” is called a mental attack on the information front.

    In fact, a psychic attack is in the film "Malchish-Kibalchish", when the bourgeoisie under a gramophone go into the attack.
    And if we talk about the adopted terminology, then we are fighting an information struggle, and the adversaries - an information war