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The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army

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Do you think that the most terrible, in the opinion of the Americans, is in the arsenals of the Syrian government forces? No, these are not Smerch and Hurricane multiple rocket launchers. Non-rocket complexes "Tochka" and heavy flame-throwing systems "Solntsepek". And, of course, not armored vehicles with artillery. Western propaganda is mostly silent about them. The Western public and, personally, US President Obama are very concerned about the use of the most "savage", in their opinion, kind weapons - hand-made so-called "barrel" or "barrel-bombs".


The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army

This photo has become a favorite illustration of materials about "barrel" bombs.

Say, the villains of Assad in some secret workshops stuffed barrels of gasoline under the trotyl and striking elements, and then, hanging them under the helicopters, dropped on the heads of unsuspecting civilians.

For many westerners and politicians, these “barrel” bombs have become much more dangerous than chemical weapons (which were destroyed in Syria thanks to our country) and the ISIL and Al Qaeda, which were banned in Russia, put together. Promotion of the topic with this sinister weapon took place according to all the rules of military propaganda. One has only to recall the campaign to demonize the actions of the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. Many tricks, by the way, resemble those that are currently used. For example, the myth of the toy mines, which the Soviet troops "scattered in large numbers near the villages to kill children." Of course, these facts were not really confirmed by anything, there were no real toy bombs. But how many then talked about it. The same with the use of chemical warfare agents, no real facts and rivers of lies.

Later, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and to justify the intervention in the region, the Western media described the "atrocities" of the invaders. Many people remember absolutely terrible history that the soldiers of the Baghdad dictator killed premature babies in Kuwaiti maternity hospitals, throwing them out of special containers. As it turned out, this chilling story is entirely invented by American PR people. And statements about chemical weapons in Iraq? From him "freedom-loving nations" led by the United States saved the world. And where are these stocks of agents? Also a lie from start to finish.


In the majority of photographic materials about barrel bombs, for some reason they do not explode, but lie and wait for foreign correspondents to take pictures of them.

And how demonized the population of an entire Balkan country - Yugoslavia. Serbs were killed not only by NATO bombs, but also falsified and completely Nazi, by definition, by polls in which Western propagandists tried to prove that in intellectual development Serbs are "the most backward in Europe." Fortunately, "in enlightened Europe" it did not come to measuring the shape of skulls and other things, which was practiced in Germany during the Third Reich.

You can also recall the abominable behavior of Western propaganda during the events in South Ossetia in August 2008, as well as the situation in the Donbas.

Finally, the events in Libya and Syria. The once-prosperous country of Libya, which has broken apart, was also subjected to monstrous defamation — a real informational aggression. And, as it turned out, much that was attributed to the regime of the deceased colonel was invented from beginning to end. We see all this in Syria: informational stuffing by various bloggers, London’s “human rights observatories” and professional human rights defenders.


And this “bomb” of the villains - the asadists stuffed with some white powder (where are the destructive elements that they talk about so much?) And dropped it so that to be substituted again. By the way, why in many photos of these bombs with 200 kg of TNT from a strike on the ground just stomps, and does not tear to shreds?

Returning to the notorious barrel bombs. If you look completely unbiased, you can understand that we are dealing with an organized campaign. In fact, analyzing the photo and video materials posted on the Web, one can understand that these are fakes, many of which are concocted very roughly and designed for people who are absolutely not trying to analyze what they are shoving. We can confidently say that it will take some time, and we, as has repeatedly happened, will find out who organized all this, distributed and financed all this.
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  1. Taygerus
    Taygerus 25 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +24
    As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 25 October 2015 07: 50 New
      +10
      Quote: Taygerus
      As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks

      But this crap works in the west. So are people dumb at the end? requestMaybe they just hunt something to hang noodles on their ears?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 25 October 2015 08: 18 New
        +28
        Alex28 (3)
        But this crap works in the west
        All true.
        In the theory of warfare, such “stuffing” is called a mental attack on the information front. Moreover, psychology has proved that, the more monstrous and absurd the lie, the more the layman believes in it! Goebbels spoke of this.
        So that’s why American PR-provocateurs work for public opinion in their favor against Russia quite qualified. Although to us their antics seem just wild! In fact, the Americans draw from the world community from Russia the image of a blasphemous enemy, drawing world public opinion to their side in the war with Russia. What for? Americans need Western access to ALIEN material and human RESOURCES to wage war against the Russian Federation.
        Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!
        1. efimich41
          efimich41 25 October 2015 19: 16 New
          +2
          Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!

          In addition to retaliatory measures, they should be beaten with their own weapons. Once they believe all kinds of fables, they need to fantasize all kinds of nonsense regarding the USA, NATO and the actions of their armed forces, the more ridiculous the better. And throw it all into their territory through all the available media. Everything should be mutual.
          1. frost1979
            frost1979 25 October 2015 21: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: efimich41
            Therefore, as on any front, the Russian side must take timely measures to refute such “stuffing” in the media. The main thing for the Russian side is not to yawn with exposure. Everything is like in a hot war!

            In addition to retaliatory measures, they should be beaten with their own weapons. Once they believe all kinds of fables, they need to fantasize all kinds of nonsense regarding the USA, NATO and the actions of their armed forces, the more ridiculous the better. And throw it all into their territory through all the available media. Everything should be mutual.


            I agree with you! True, there is one caveat - if ours start doing such stuffing, first of all, we will all die of laughter - imagine that, for example, Konashenkov will barely restrain laughter, telling a thread of rubbish. It’s not in our blood to “lie on the blue eye” and remain serious. This is what our liberals differ in - but if they are kept by Goebbels from the USA and Europe, can they outbid them? Let with a serious look lie in our favor)))
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 26 October 2015 01: 45 New
              +3
              Of course, you should not stoop to the level of arrogant lies of Western propaganda.

              Then you can lose your own audience. Let the people in the West be zombified and fooled by the deceitful media, but at least in the post-Soviet republics people are now "seeing"

              An important role here is played by the fact that the Russian media and the Russian leadership skillfully use the Pravda-uterus - and this "catches" people
        2. Flor Fokic
          Flor Fokic 26 October 2015 05: 02 New
          +1
          Power is in the truth.
          Even the most stupid mattress zombie absurdly clicks muddy eyes, at the mention of an IMPOSSIBLE FACT: Russia is invited to Syria, subject to all necessary rules, and the Americans are impostors, lawlessnesses.
          The Kremlin still has a lot of trump cards in reserve.
          For example, what kind of legitimacy of the current ukroputists can be discussed if the MANDATORY impeachment procedure has not been implemented?
          I am sure this key moment will come to light one day. Nothing is forgotten.
        3. skrabplus.ru
          skrabplus.ru 27 October 2015 11: 52 New
          0
          The main thing the Russian side does not yawn with exposure
          V.V.P. constantly does not ambiguously remind the world community who is actually the enemy of everything human. Unfortunately, these statements in the West are "cut out" or not translated (omitted as not important). I want to believe that very soon the moment of truth will come ... Although at the last moment V.V.P. it will save the face of the sheep, by all means exchanging this for certain preferences for the Russian Federation.
          PS to the photo: Hope to EAT !!!
      2. sssla
        sssla 25 October 2015 13: 44 New
        -7
        Quote: Alex28
        Are people stupefied at the end?

        Well, you listen and almost believe your media ??? If you say no, I won’t believe you !!!!!
        1. skrabplus.ru
          skrabplus.ru 27 October 2015 11: 58 New
          0
          I watch TV extremely rarely. And then, in order to look at the news from a different perspective. As they say, trust but verify!
          Who read (see photo) the news will never believe until the end ...
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 27 October 2015 12: 53 New
          0
          Quote: sssla
          Well, you listen and almost believe your media?

          And who better to believe? Really what spreads dill propaganda? In recent days, two high-ranking officials, including the ousted president of the country, defeated the country of Dill and its lawyers in European courts. What is it for? Probably the lawyers were bought or recruited by V.V. Putin personally.
        3. TT62
          TT62 27 October 2015 17: 20 New
          0
          Yes I believe you! The Tu-154 was shot down by Ukraine, the Boeing was shot down by Ukraine. What shot down, who personally shot down is a minor issue.
        4. nemets
          nemets 27 October 2015 20: 26 New
          0
          you then definitely believe yours judging by your channels, it just doesn’t tear me apart from laughter from your channels, at least even from dialect
      3. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 25 October 2015 14: 00 New
        +1
        Americans, like women, by God, they themselves came up with, they themselves were offended ... their cheap setups, like with "ramps" and a bunch of obscure mortar outfits in Iraq, will no longer be rolled
      4. Flor Fokic
        Flor Fokic 26 October 2015 04: 26 New
        +2
        People in this info-shit live deep, they think, dream and dream, for years.
        The stump is clear that they have no options to have at least some opinion different from that imposed by the promatras media.
        However, even there, there are sane and adequate.
        Marine Le Pen, for example. I bow to this wise woman.
        1. nemets
          nemets 27 October 2015 20: 29 New
          +1
          and in the Bundestag - Sarah Wagenknekht, also a strong woman. German men degenerated into a campaign, if you look at how she lowers the entire German government
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 25 October 2015 12: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Taygerus
      As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool

      I personally watched about a year ago a report from Russian television about these Syrian "barrel bombs", which is also crap ?????????????
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 27 October 2015 12: 33 New
        0
        Crap is not that these bombs exist (it's true) Crap is that they are dropped on civilians. The Syrians began to see such weapons out of despair. If they had regular bombs (factory-made), they would drop them.
        1. Thronekeeper
          Thronekeeper 27 October 2015 12: 56 New
          +1
          In single cases. Syrian aviation has enough bombs, NAR and UR to bomb the masses with ammunition made on their knees. These are land mines - without GPE in general, used to clean up the area after air strikes and artillery strikes, mainly as psychological and non-lethal weapons. Also used to destroy fortifications. The Syrians are not stupid in order to substitute slow-moving vertes under the ZPU and CPV and bombard the white light. Their pilots are very professional, there is a supply of ammunition. Wh - ODAB-500, a pair of which in terms of its striking effect exceeds twenty barrels of ammonium nitrate. And so, CAA uses 120-dofig mm high-caliber mines from gas cylinders and other home-made drums to make whistles (out of 10 barrels, it’s good if there is one with saltpeter). When such a candy falls / flies and, if it still explodes, all the bendyuzhniki in their pants find the Akbar cats and hide in the cracks, after which they are knocked out by the infantry with the support of the armor.
          Pendosy lied.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 27 October 2015 13: 22 New
          0
          Quote: DenZ
          Crap is that they are dumped on civilians.

          civilians, are those that are moving along the underground passages with weapons?
          A similar type of bomb was used during the Second World War. Our allies were honored with this, only equipped with normal explosives. To undermine dams in Germany. Probably they are all three civilians that in the flood zone were warned in advance in Dresden too. Or were there no civilians there?
          Yes, and the Nazis used dummy barrels. For the sake of noise.
          1. General Frost
            General Frost 27 October 2015 19: 29 New
            0
            Exactly, and the white powder is the one that didn’t fit into the Powell tube hi
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  2. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 25 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +23
    Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 25 October 2015 08: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.

      This one that is dropped from a bomber and brings down a lot of people, because you’ll catch horseradish? laughing
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 18: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Quote: PlotnikoffDD
        Rubber bomb is much worse! Tell the American PR people about her.

        This one that is dropped from a bomber and brings down a lot of people, because you’ll catch horseradish? laughing


        No. That jumping one.
    2. Venhard
      Venhard 27 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +2
      It is necessary to start a rumor ISIS about bullets smeared with lard. :) Instantly everyone will run away.
  3. venaya
    venaya 25 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +4
    The talents of Western PR managers are running out. They can’t suck anything out of their fingers anymore, here they need to change something or PR managers or ....
    Serbs were killed not only by NATO bombs, but also by falsified and completely Nazi, by definition, polls

    I have experienced this trick myself. After my questions: Who pays for the survey, the calls somehow suddenly stopped, until I can understand why.
  4. vrach
    vrach 25 October 2015 07: 57 New
    +9
    Barrel bomb is an ordinary homemade product. So to say not from a good life. And like any home-made product, it is much worse than regular weapons in terms of effectiveness, such as cluster munitions or APB (vacuum bombs), flamethrowers. Very bad in the West has become with the organizers and organizers of information wars, the qualification falls.
    1. ICT
      ICT 25 October 2015 08: 28 New
      +7
      homemade work


      standard products (sort of like ours)


  5. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 25 October 2015 08: 05 New
    +32
    The most "savage" weapons of the Syrian army
    - The worst Syrian weapons for ISIS, and more importantly, for its creator, ideological inspirer and sponsor - the United States, these are not tanks, Solntsepeki, barrel barrels and not even the Russian Air Force at the Syrian air base Khmeimim. Not at all. The worst weapon for them is the ability and readiness of the Syrian people and their army, even after four years of severe war and a series of serious defeats, to fight for the independence of their country, their willingness and ability to successfully destroy the enemy (ISIS, all kinds of opposition), which is directly involved The Russian Air Force has only grown stronger. I wish the Syrian people victory over the enemy, peace and prosperity!
    I have the honor.
    1. Fat
      Fat 25 October 2015 10: 54 New
      +5
      this is why GDP helps the Syrians and not the Khokhlov-Hatskrayshchiks
  6. kind
    kind 25 October 2015 08: 11 New
    +3
    In the Great Patriotic War, our pilots dumped holey barrels on fascists. They whistled terribly when falling. Many nerves could not stand it.
    1. Oladushkin
      Oladushkin 26 October 2015 08: 43 New
      +3
      I heard the same thing that the Nazis did. On the Junkers, they caught one barrel and dropped it. But as eyewitnesses said, our soldiers only smirked, although yes the barrels howled awfully.
  7. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 25 October 2015 08: 14 New
    +5
    In terms of the invention of ducks, Western propaganda is an unsurpassed master. To lie, to dodge, to come up with sensations for one’s public, not too spoiled by education and intellect — that’s their main task! While some people make money by all means, the media distracts the crowd so as not to interfere with the process.
    1. sssla
      sssla 25 October 2015 13: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      No fakes

      You are right these are real filming. But the question is whose money. And the fact that the clip says that it’s Syria and the Syrian troops are bombing is CHEPU U A.
      1. Professor
        Professor 25 October 2015 13: 53 New
        -18
        Quote: sssla
        You are right these are real filming. But the question is whose money. And the fact that the clip says that it’s Syria and the Syrian troops are bombing is CHEPU U A.

        Cool. I did not know that the Syrian militias had aviation. wassat
        1. sssla
          sssla 25 October 2015 14: 07 New
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          I did not know that the Syrian militias had aviation.

          You understand what and about whom !!! Do not pretend that you do not understand))
      2. nemets
        nemets 27 October 2015 20: 30 New
        0
        I agree more in Slavic seems
  8. Professor
    Professor 25 October 2015 08: 20 New
    -3
    In fact, analyzing the photos and videos posted on the Web, you can understand that these are fakes, many of which are very rudely prepared and designed for people who are absolutely not trying to analyze what they are slipping into.

    No fakes. Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

    1. 0255
      0255 25 October 2015 09: 36 New
      +22
      Quote: Professor
      No fakes. Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

      Professor, do you still mourn the white and fluffy moderate terrorists? Any bomb is good against Islamists, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a factory FAB-500 or a makeshift barrel barrel.
      Accept something like this:
      1. Professor
        Professor 25 October 2015 10: 22 New
        -7
        Quote: 0255
        Professor, do you still mourn the white and fluffy moderate terrorists?

        What are you? For me, they all need to be sent as soon as possible to a meeting with the prophet. However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help. Circus.

        Syrian Free Army refused to cooperate with Russia in the fight against IS

        Quote: 0255
        Any bomb is good against Islamists, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a factory FAB-500 or a makeshift barrel barrel.

        Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage.

        Quote: 27091965i
        The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this

        Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 25 October 2015 10: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: Professor
          Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.

          Oleg, what "unnecessary torment" does a barrel full of ammonium nitrate cause compared to FAB-250? what
          1. Professor
            Professor 25 October 2015 10: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: Bongo
            Oleg, what "unnecessary torment" does a barrel full of ammonium nitrate cause compared to FAB-250?

            Did I talk about the barrel? I responded to the comrade post about weapons in general. Claims to the barrel are poor reliability and no accuracy.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 25 October 2015 10: 40 New
              +7
              Quote: Professor
              Did I talk about the barrel? I responded to the comrade post about weapons in general. Claims to the barrel are poor reliability and no accuracy.

              Oleg, didn’t you write this?
              Quote: Professor
              Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage.

              There is no difference in collateral damage when applied to residential areas. I am sympathetic to the reaction of the Israeli authorities to rocket attacks on Israeli territory. But I do not see the difference in the Syrian and Israeli bombing attacks on the settlements occupied by Islamists.
              1. Professor
                Professor 25 October 2015 11: 05 New
                -25
                Quote: Bongo
                Oleg, didn’t you write this?

                I replied to the post "The purpose of weapons, the destruction of the enemy and it cannot be humane or non-humane. It was created for this." Weapons can and should be "humane." The barrel of the claim is not in its humanity or lack thereof.

                Quote: Bongo
                There is no difference in collateral damage when applied to residential areas.

                Of course there is. This is the difference between “to whom Allah will send” and a point strike with minimal attendant casualties. By the way, they try to use small-caliber ammunition.


                Quote: Bongo
                But I do not see the difference in the Syrian and Israeli bombing attacks on the settlements occupied by Islamists.

                Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike? They scatter leaflets, send sms, ring up, or maybe they beat first with warning ones so that people can leave the quarter? How, then, explain that the number of victims in Syria went to hundreds of thousands, and in Gaza, all died (according to them) about 2000 people, including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 25 October 2015 11: 10 New
                  +10
                  Quote: Professor
                  The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.

                  Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza no In addition, who forces “civilians” to remain in areas occupied by Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 25 October 2015 11: 19 New
                    -32
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza

                    Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS? wink

                    Quote: Bongo
                    In addition, who forces “civilians” to remain in areas occupied by Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?

                    And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.
                    1. Bongo
                      Bongo 25 October 2015 11: 22 New
                      +15
                      Quote: Professor
                      And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                      Well, yes of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", that provoked the beginning of an armed conflict there.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 25 October 2015 11: 25 New
                        -29
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Well, yes of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", that provoked the beginning of an armed conflict there.

                        So these are your allies. We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (Rhetorical question)

                        Let's go back to the materiel.
                      2. Bongo
                        Bongo 25 October 2015 11: 30 New
                        +13
                        Quote: Professor
                        So these are your allies.

                        My? what
                        Quote: Professor
                        We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (A rhetorical question)

                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome fellow moreover, about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.
                        Quote: Professor
                        Let's go back to the materiel.

                        Let's yes
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 25 October 2015 11: 35 New
                        -19
                        Quote: Bongo
                        My?

                        Well yes. You are a citizen of Russia.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome, especially since about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.

                        What does it mean to let them come? Bring them, place them, give a roof over your head, feed them, help with money like Europeans do.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Let's

                        Agreed hi
                      4. Bongo
                        Bongo 25 October 2015 11: 37 New
                        +12
                        Quote: Professor
                        What does it mean to let them come? Bring them, place them, give a roof over your head, feed them, help with money like Europeans do.

                        As if the Europeans are happy with them or they have a choice.
                      5. Your friend
                        Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 28 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: Bongo
                        My?

                        Well yes. You are a citizen of Russia.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Oleg, I live in the Far East and we have already snowed. Next week is expected in the afternoon to -20. Let them come, welcome, especially since about 1000 people leave Komsomolsk-on-Amur every year.

                        What does it mean to let them come? Bring them, place them, give a roof over your head, feed them, help with money like Europeans do.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        Let's

                        Agreed hi


                        Eeeee, excuse me for counting "vaccinate them, as Europeans do"? Do you have evidence that Europeans bring Syrians to Europe?
                      6. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 25 October 2015 14: 14 New
                        +20
                        Quote: Professor
                        Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS?

                        And how many similar comments did you leave when the USA burned Basra with white phosphorus together with people? I will answer for you - not one.
                    2. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 25 October 2015 12: 42 New
                      +15
                      Quote: Professor
                      Kids of your allies, we treat

                      Yeah, five children from Syria were cured to create an appearance, and in Gaza, five hundred children were killed.
                      This is the whole policy of Israel - the most important thing is to "splurge", to deceive the whole world.
                  2. Your friend
                    Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 36 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Well, yes of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", that provoked the beginning of an armed conflict there.

                    So these are your allies. We treat the children of your allies, the Germans feed, the Austrians let them overnight, and you? (Rhetorical question)

                    Let's go back to the materiel.

                    And we are gum. we help you, they will come to us for the night too. You have some strange claims, like we don’t treat them with a specialist, we don’t feed .... Some kind of nonsense. Do we really have to make them go to us? This is not democratic.
                    The USA is an ally of Iraq, are they really letting Iraqis in for the night, they bring it to the USA and feed it there?
                  3. sssla
                    sssla 25 October 2015 13: 59 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Professor
                    and you?

                    PROFESSOR ALEX
                2. 0255
                  0255 25 October 2015 11: 34 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Quote: Professor
                  And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                  Well, yes of course ... Russia should accept everyone, because it was our country, arming and supporting the "opposition", that provoked the beginning of an armed conflict there.

                  Exactly, let the EU feel in its own skin what the "Arab Spring" is bringing to.
              2. sssla
                sssla 25 October 2015 13: 59 New
                +8
                Quote: Professor
                Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                Professor and you are a liar))) And you know about it))))) How not ashamed of such an educated and so lie ?????
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend 25 October 2015 14: 06 New
                  +8
                  Quote: sssla
                  Quote: Professor
                  Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                  Professor and you are a liar))) And you know about it))))) How not ashamed of such an educated and so lie ?????

                  Professor is not just a liar. In this topic, he becomes in the pose of a humanist, against WMD, so that war criminals are tried (I wait when he demands to judge an ally of Israel for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki), on the other he rejoices in deaths in Syria, he has all the terrorists there, and here but it sheds tears for the refugees from Syria, who are taken out, fed and laid to sleep in Israel and Europe.)))
                  .
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 October 2015 14: 21 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Professor is not just a liar. In this topic, he becomes in the pose of a humanist, against WMD, for war criminals to be tried

                  In this case, he needs to condemn the United States for hundreds of war crimes.
                  But the USA is an ally of Israel, and this says a lot.
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            3. sssla
              sssla 25 October 2015 14: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

              Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 14: 13 New
                +4
                Quote: sssla
                Quote: Professor
                Russia won’t accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

                Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????

                The professor does not answer uncomfortable questions, but the accuser of him is notable.)))
              2. Professor
                Professor 25 October 2015 14: 34 New
                -18
                Quote: sssla
                Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ?????

                Do not tell my slippers. Before the war, about 100 thousand people lived in Syria with Russian passports. Mostly women married Syrians. And now these women and children returned to their mothers (most of them prefer Europe rather than Russia), and you reported how you received the Syrian refugees. You accepted yours, and even then not all. You here Fatima with a dozen of her children accept.

                According to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), as of January, 238 people were seeking asylum in Russia. However, most of them - 836 people - are refugees from Ukraine. Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria.

                For comparison, Turkey has received more than two million Syrians, and in Germany the number of asylum seekers by the end of the year can reach 1,5 million people, mainly from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

                As of January, only 790 people had refugee status in Russia, including 419 from Afghanistan, 229 from Ukraine and only two are from Syria. Elena Burtina from the Moscow Committee for Civil Assistance, which provides assistance to refugees, notes that even there are more refugees from Malta in Russia.

                Russia is preparing to evacuate from Syria
                Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has counted about 100 Russian citizens living in Syria with their families.
              3. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 14: 42 New
                +4
                [quote = professor] [quote = sssla] Is this not enough ?? 3 years ago already took a LITTLE ????? [/ quote]
                Do not tell my slippers. Before the war, about 100 thousand people lived in Syria with Russian passports. Mostly women married Syrians. And now these women and children returned to their mothers (most of them prefer Europe rather than Russia), and you reported how you received the Syrian refugees. You accepted yours, and even then not all. You here Fatima with a dozen of her children accept.

                According to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), as of January, 238 people were seeking asylum in Russia. However, most of them - 836 people - are refugees from Ukraine. Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria.

                For comparison, Turkey has received more than two million Syrians, and in Germany the number of asylum seekers by the end of the year can reach 1,5 million people, mainly from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

                As of January, only 790 people had refugee status in Russia, including 419 from Afghanistan, 229 from Ukraine and only two are from Syria. Elena Burtina from the Moscow Committee for Civil Assistance, which provides assistance to refugees, notes that even there are more refugees from Malta in Russia.

                Ahahahaha. The professor is really bad. Then he writes "Quote: professor
                Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them. "That" Only 2 refugees arrived from Syria. "But the process went into the head of the professor, already counted some number of Syrians in Russia. Not all is hopeless.)))
              4. Professor
                Professor 25 October 2015 14: 50 New
                -8
                Quote: Your friend
                But the process went in the head of the professor, already counted some number of Syrians in Russia. Not everything is hopeless.)))

                Young man, once again make a mistake in spelling my nickname I will send to the emergency.

                For those who have a bad understanding, I’ll repeat it one last time. According to Lavrov (you know this?), About 100 Russians lived in Syria. Russia accepted 000 refugees from Syria and only 2 (two) of them received refugee status. Where else are 340 Russians not to mention native Syrians? request
              5. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 14: 58 New
                +7
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: Your friend
                But the process went in the head of the professor, already counted some number of Syrians in Russia. Not everything is hopeless.)))

                Young man, once again make a mistake in spelling my nickname I will send to the emergency.

                For those who have a bad understanding, I’ll repeat it one last time. According to Lavrov (you know this?), About 100 Russians lived in Syria. Russia accepted 000 refugees from Syria and only 2 (two) of them received refugee status. Where else are 340 Russians not to mention native Syrians? request

                Just don’t throw me in the thorn bush !!!))) Just don’t emergency, please, just not that. Such an old, "wise" man, and resented by such things.
                It's cool, a person writes in the beginning that Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, then he himself writes that there are 2340 refugees - and accuses me that I have a bad understanding. Che is logical.
                It does not occur to him that the Russians who returned to Russia are not going to receive refugee status, they returned home.
                So how is your statement, where did the Russian Foreign Ministry call the CCA terrorists? I am waiting for confirmation from you, but still no way.
              6. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 25 October 2015 18: 18 New
                +9
                Bullshit and lies designed for stupid people. If they are citizens of the Russian Federation, then they have come home. And they are not entitled to refugee status. And 97660 Russians can be anywhere, this is their own business.
              7. Professor
                Professor 25 October 2015 18: 22 New
                -9
                Quote: Barkhan
                Bullshit and lies designed for stupid people. If they are citizens of the Russian Federation, then they have come home. And they are not entitled to refugee status. And 97660 Russians can be anywhere, this is their own business.

                Therefore, only two received. Looks like family members. But that's why 97 decided not to return to Russia is an interesting question. With Russia's acceptance of Syrian refugees, everything is crystal clear. hi
              8. Brown
                Brown 27 October 2015 14: 38 New
                0
                Did you follow the fate of every Syrian with a Russian passport ????
                Stop pouring water and talking nonsense, I’ve written everything crystal clear about your bile against Syria and Russia, it’s not clear what forces you to go to this portal, do you want to flood everyone with dirt, attract attention or are you “paid” ???
              9. KOMA
                KOMA 28 October 2015 00: 01 New
                0
                Professor, just the rest of 97000 are Russian citizens and they returned home, so they did not receive refugee status!
          2. atalef
            atalef 25 October 2015 18: 42 New
            -6
            Quote: Professor
            Where else are 97660 Russians not to mention native Syrians?

            It’s clear where - in Europe
          3. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 45 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Professor
            Where else are 97660 Russians not to mention native Syrians?

            It’s clear where - in Europe

            Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?
          4. atalef
            atalef 25 October 2015 18: 48 New
            -7
            Quote: Your friend
            Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?

            Elementary proof.
            If out of 100t of Russian citizens, about 3% chose to return to Russia, and in Syria today there are 5 million refugees, then somehow you don’t have to be too smart to understand. that Russians (and Christians - Syrians) for a long time and without problems receive status in Europe.
            That they do not sit in the ruined Allepo, but in calmer countries
          5. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Your friend
            Do not stoop to the level of a professor, but you cannot prove this, so why are you lying?

            Elementary proof.
            If out of 100t of Russian citizens, about 3% chose to return to Russia, and in Syria today there are 5 million refugees, then somehow you don’t have to be too smart to understand. that Russians (and Christians - Syrians) for a long time and without problems receive status in Europe.
            That they do not sit in the ruined Allepo, but in calmer countries

            Where does this 3% come from? Otkel firewood?
      2. Professor
        Professor 25 October 2015 18: 45 New
        -7
        Quote: atalef
        It’s clear where - in Europe

        I know it. I want to hear it from the idiot. As well as explanations why they did not return to Russia, but went on the run to the damned West.
      3. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 19: 13 New
        +6
        The only thing I can accurately prove (and show) to you is that I am not a Jew. Although you, dear Professor, have not presented anything other than digits and what Lavrov said request Lavrov said that there were 100 Russian citizens or compatriots? These are two big differences.
      4. Professor
        Professor 25 October 2015 19: 39 New
        -1
        Quote: Barkhan
        Although you, dear Professor, have presented nothing but numbers and what Lavrov said

        And for whom am I posting links? For yourself beloved?
        http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/russia-unwelcoming-few-syrian-refugies/30045
        98.html

        http://www.gosrf.ru/news/4709/
      5. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 20: 04 New
        +7
        Thank you Professor. I have carefully read the article in Voice of America.
        238 people applied for asylum
        234 016 refugees from Ukraine
        2 refugees from Syria,
        2 Syrian Circassians whose ancestors lived in the North Caucasus in the 000th century ... We found refuge in Kabardino-Balkaria.
        Yes, Lavrov announced the number of 100 citizens of the Russian Federation (I will check in our sources) living with their families. But he also added that they would be evacuated if necessary. But the article, my old friend ... I would like to leave for Europe. here in the "Voice of America" ​​it is written ... that those Syrians who do not support the legal regime do not want to go to Russia. And we need them here for hell?
      6. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Barkhan
        Thank you Professor. I have carefully read the article in Voice of America.
        238 people applied for asylum
        234 016 refugees from Ukraine
        2 refugees from Syria,
        2 Syrian Circassians whose ancestors lived in the North Caucasus in the 000th century ... We found refuge in Kabardino-Balkaria.
        Yes, Lavrov announced the number of 100 citizens of the Russian Federation (I will check in our sources) living with their families. But he also added that they would be evacuated if necessary. But the article, my old friend ... I would like to leave for Europe. here in the "Voice of America" ​​it is written ... that those Syrians who do not support the legal regime do not want to go to Russia. And we need them here for hell?


        Ohhhhhh ... already the Voice of America has gone ... serious evidence, I hope you realized how wrong you were?))))))
      7. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 20: 25 New
        +5
        I just quoted what you suggested. And I honestly pointed out the name of the source. Information from the information enemy, just ... Where is a hundred thousand? I still don’t understand. With all the desire in Russia to obtain citizenship is very easy lately. Close to me Six refugee families from Donbass and their children settled in. For six months they all received citizenship, housing, work ... the land of the sea ... If, what, and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
      8. Professor
        Professor 25 October 2015 20: 28 New
        -9
        Quote: Barkhan
        If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...

        1. Do not squeeze.
        2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.
      9. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 October 2015 20: 36 New
        +8
        Quote: Professor
        Not a foot to you.

        Professor, hi
        From sumy and prison do not renounce ....
        They will bring, without legs, against the will ... laughing
      10. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 20: 46 New
        +5
        Anything can happen ... request
  9. Professor
    Professor 25 October 2015 20: 20 New
    -3
    Quote: Barkhan
    But he also added that in case of need they will be evacuated. But the article, old friend ...

    Well? I don’t remember the EMERCOM flights that evacuated 100 Russians and their families, and this is about another 000 minimum. Did I miss anything?

    Quote: Barkhan
    I would like more other departure to Europe

    Again? If not to Russia, then where did they disappear from Syria? Maybe they forgot what peaceful life is in Russia and decided to wait out the war in the basements?

    Quote: Barkhan
    And for hell do we need them here?

    So your compatriots after all. And the rest of the Syrians are your allies.
    Quote: Victorio
    how accurate this information is, but: "The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria."

    Where? In those 10 liberated villages?
  10. samoletil18
    samoletil18 27 October 2015 15: 44 New
    +1
    Hey people! Enough Professor minus. All the same, do not persuade in anything, and we lose the alternative opinion with arguments, though not always convincing.
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  12. a housewife
    a housewife 26 October 2015 23: 44 New
    +4
    And in honor of what should Russian citizens receive refugee status? My husband has a partner in the factory - an Adygei from Syria. His wife is from Maykop. We arrived, issued a husband and children by the Russians. Not refugees. It works normally, it is on the military register, it teaches the Russian language. Has your number 97660 become smaller? And I think the same with the rest.
  13. Brown
    Brown 27 October 2015 14: 33 New
    +1
    Dear, why did you get that 2340 refugees with Russian passports ??? If he has a Russian passport, he is a citizen and only if he does not have one, he is considered a refugee, so that 100 of our citizens are not refugees upon arrival from Syria, respectively, they do not fall into official statistics on the arrival of refugees.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 25 October 2015 20: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Bongo
    Oleg, it is not correct to compare the scale of hostilities in the SAR and Gaza

    Let's compare the relative intensity of the bombing. What about leaflets and SMS? wink

    Quote: Bongo
    In addition, who forces “civilians” to remain in areas occupied by Islamists, or are they forcibly held there?

    And where do they go? Russia does not accept Syrian refugees, does not treat them.

    ======
    how accurate this information is, but: "The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria."
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 20: 39 New
      -2
      Quote: Victorio
      The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria. "

      You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay
    2. Your friend
      Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Victorio
      The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria. "

      You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

      Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...
    3. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 21: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Your friend
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Victorio
      The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria. "

      You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

      Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...

      800t in small groups and dashes.
      Although what to take - mufti laughing
    4. Your friend
      Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 11 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Your friend
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Victorio
      The Supreme Mufti also said that since the first Russian air strikes on extremist positions, more than 800 thousand refugees have returned to Syria. "

      You represent this column in 800t people, in 2 weeks belay

      Are they in one column? Well, what to take from them, the Syrians ...

      800t in small groups and dashes.
      Although what to take - mufti laughing

      Well, of course, this is the mufti ... ahahahaha ... what to take from him.
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  • nemets
    nemets 27 October 2015 20: 39 New
    0
    Russia didn’t start it there, it’s not for us to disentangle. But Israel contributed to this, and as they say - do not dig a hole
  • Your friend
    Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +4
    "Of course there is. This is the difference between" to whom Allah will send "and a point strike with minimal attendant casualties. By the way, they try to use small-caliber ammunition."
    Of course not, and both guilty and innocent people die there and there.

    "Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike? Throw leaflets, send sms, ring up or can they beat first with a warning so that people can leave the quarter? How then explain that the number of victims in Syria went to hundreds of thousands, but only in Gaza ( their data) about 2000 people including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world. "
    Is war going on in Gaza? Do Arabs have tanks, guns, armored personnel carriers in gas, do they use all this for Jews? And that Assad killed all the hundreds of thousands of people in Syria? That's a bastard. And that they’re phoning everyone right away, they’ll send a text message to everyone - not a single person was killed because of this. So just humanists. I have no doubt that if Israel starts a real, bloody war, if there is a question of Israel’s extinction, there will be no text messages, no calls, and there will be cluster bombs and nuclear weapons, and rightly so.
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 19: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: Your friend
      Is war going on in Gaza?

      But what about genocide without war belay
      Quote: Your friend
      Do Arabs have tanks, guns, armored personnel carriers in gas, do they use all this for Jews?

      Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria wink
      Quote: Your friend
      And that Assad killed all the hundreds of thousands of people in Syria?

      Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

      Quote: Your friend
      I have no doubt if Israel starts a real, bloody war,

      We had real wars more than once.
      And why is it always used in relation to us - IF
      And if tomorrow a meteorite falls on your head?
      Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 25 October 2015 19: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria

        And how many dead in Syria?
        Quote: atalef
        We had real wars more than once.

        Nothing you had!
        Quote: atalef
        And why is it always used in relation to us - IF

        You are such a nation! Always were Jews, but wanted by the Jews ...
        Quote: atalef
        Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

        Knowingly win ... One word "favorites" negative Sorry for the early one. I am far from determining the quality of a person by nation, but FORCE !!! hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 07 New
          -4
          Quote: Alex28
          And how many dead in Syria?

          us today (according to their sources - 230t)
          Quote: Alex28
          Nothing you had!

          And Syria gave us the Golan laughing
          And Jordan Jerusalem (East) laughing
          In general, all the weapons that the USSR supplied to the Arabs (and which we UNKNOWN in what way turned out to be) - probably they gave us the same wink

          Quote: Alex28
          You are such a nation! You have always been Jews, but wanted to be Jews ..

          Do not choke on saliva
          Quote: Alex28
          Knowingly win ... One word "favorites

          Clever wink
          Quote: Alex28
          and early excuse me. I am far from determining the quality of a person by nation, but FORCE !!!

          not far i would say hi
      2. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 32 New
        +3
        But what about genocide without war belay

        What genocide? I did not say a word about genocide? Why do you attribute to me that I did not say?
        Therefore, the kind of dead should be more than Syria wink

        Why on earth? Those. if the Arab throws a stone at you or launches a rocket, then there will be more victims than in Syria, where are the tanks, guns and planes? Nonsense.
        Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

        Kindergarten. Where did I say that Assad is a saint and did not kill anyone?
        We had real wars more than once.
        And why is it always used in relation to us - IF
        And if tomorrow a meteorite falls on your head?
        Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

        How much have I written to you about this ??? When you had real wars, no one warned about the bombing, no one sent SMS, no one called. And now you are writing some nonsense. Really kindergarten.
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 11 New
          -2
          Quote: Your friend
          Why on earth? Those. if the Arab throws a stone at you or launches a rocket, then there will be more victims than in Syria, where are the tanks, guns and planes? Nonsense.

          and what is there, they put 230t of militants?
          Strange, our palaces screamed that only in Yarmouk (Palestinian refugee camp, a suburb of Damascus), where 500t lived, 60t died (much more than in all wars against Israel), and 12t remained there, with hundreds starving to death (the rest fled) or are fighting against Assad.

          Quote: Your friend
          Kindergarten. Where did I say that Assad is a saint and did not kill anyone?

          So what's the question?
          Quote: Your friend
          When you had real wars, no one warned about the bombing, no one sent SMS, no one called

          Then there were no such norms --- times change
        2. Your friend
          Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 21 New
          +1
          and what is there, they put 230t of militants?
          Strange, our palaces screamed that only in Yarmouk (Palestinian refugee camp, a suburb of Damascus), where 500t lived, 60t died (much more than in all wars against Israel), and 12t remained there, with hundreds starving to death (the rest fled) or are fighting against Assad.

          Honestly, where are the cries of your "pale", and the fact that in Syria over the course of several years, hundreds of times more people died than you have in Israel over several decades. Strange is your answer.
          Well, he’s not personally, of course, Pol Pot, but he personally didn’t cut anyone

          So what's the question?

          Why Pol Pot?
          Then there were no such norms --- times change

          And you are consistent)))) (see below)
          Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
        3. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 42 New
          -2
          Quote: Your friend
          Honestly, where are the cries of your "pale", and the fact that in Syria over the course of several years, hundreds of times more people died than you have in Israel over several decades. Strange is your answer.

          No, the conversation is about barrels on the one hand and high-precision on the other. Like by the way and the results
          Quote: Your friend
          Why Pol Pot?

          To the fact that he, like Assad, did not personally kill anyone
          Quote: Your friend
          And you are consistent)))) (see below)
          Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.

          Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
          FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?
        4. Your friend
          Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 54 New
          0
          No, the conversation is about barrels on the one hand and high-precision on the other. Like by the way and the results

          Brrrr ... in general, the conversation we have in this thread is about the number of victims in Syria and you. Are you tangled in branches?
          To the fact that he, like Assad, did not personally kill anyone

          Well, Assad didn’t personally kill anyone, which I told you about. (
          Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
          FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

          Iiiiii? Uncover the great changes in the world after this court appeared? Really began to kill, burn, cut less ??? Let me finally feel the difference !!!!
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    2. andj61
      andj61 25 October 2015 21: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: atalef
      itata: your friend
      And you are consistent)))) (see below)
      Let's talk about the present and the past, for the future they are not being pulled to the Hague court.
      Yes, but the court has existed since 2002, it is already real.
      FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?

      Alexander, but something about the court, you are not very precise and accurately reporting. This court does not actually work.
      The International Criminal Court (International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; abbreviated as ICC) is the first permanent international criminal justice body that is competent to prosecute those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. Officially began its work on July 1, 2002.

      The Russian Federation signed the Rome Statute on September 13, 2000, but has not yet ratified it and, therefore, is not a State party to the International Criminal Court. At the same time, Russia cooperates with the ICC and participates in its work as an observer.
      A number of countries fundamentally object to the very idea of ​​the ICC as limiting the sovereignty of states and giving indefinitely wide powers to the court; Among them are the USA, China, India, Israel and Iran.
      The USA is the most ardent opponent of the ICC. Although the US government signed the Rome Statute in 2000, it already withdrew its signature in 2002. Initially, Bill Clinton, when signing the document, explained that the United States was not going to ratify the Rome Statute until they had first-hand experience of the work of the International Criminal Court. In the future, the Bush administration, on the pretext of protecting its military personnel, completely refused to participate in the Rome Statute, calling it violating US national interests and sovereignty. In addition, in 2002, a special Law on the Protection of American Personnel Abroad (English) Russian was adopted, which allowed the use of military force to release any American citizen or citizens from among US allies detained in the territory of any state on the basis of the ICC. The United States also entered into bilateral agreements with a number of countries in which it was obliged them not to extradite suspected American citizens to the International Criminal Court, and if these agreements were violated, the United States would cease providing them with military assistance and any other support.

      And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?
    3. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 22: 35 New
      -1
      Quote: andj61
      And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?

      Accept the Roman status - you mean.
      So Andrey, it’s not a problem when you live with a country that does not recognize the Roman Status (of course, it will not give you away), a problem when you get into a country, it recognizes the status (and this is practically the whole of Europe - as an example), and then you under the white handles and in the jail.
      And so, of course there is no problem, sit at home, who will touch you.
    4. Your friend
      Your friend 25 October 2015 23: 04 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: andj61
      And how can this ICC function if the vast majority of countries do not support it and do not take part in the functioning of its bodies? Including the USA, Russia, China, India, Indonesia and even like Israel?

      Accept the Roman status - you mean.
      So Andrey, it’s not a problem when you live with a country that does not recognize the Roman Status (of course, it will not give you away), a problem when you get into a country, it recognizes the status (and this is practically the whole of Europe - as an example), and then you under the white handles and in the jail.
      And so, of course there is no problem, sit at home, who will touch you.


      atalef: Yes, but there has been a trial since 2002, it is already real.
      FEEL THE DIFFERENCE?


      It’s bzdets, so to paint about a new era with the advent of a new court, in order to later admit that the court is complete crap, you can put it on the part if you travel to countries that have not signed the Rome Statute. Che, a good court that will change a lot lol
    5. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 25 October 2015 23: 16 New
      +6
      The funny thing is that all these European countries are themselves independent and duplicitous ... Russia will rise, they will stand before us, turning into one bitter attention ... China will rise, they will eat with sticks and squint their eyes ...
  • sssla
    sssla 25 October 2015 13: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike?

    The discussion was about this. Only the problem is not what they warn, but about the fact that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 13: 59 New
      -6
      Quote: sssla
      Only the problem is not that they are warning, but that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???

      No one is warning children in Sderot before rocket fire. Thanks to radars, children have only 15 seconds to run into the bomb shelter. So 5 minutes is an eternity. In my years I have run more than a kilometer during this time.
      1. sssla
        sssla 25 October 2015 14: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        So 5 minutes is an eternity.

        What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 25 October 2015 14: 08 New
          +8
          Quote: sssla
          Quote: Professor
          So 5 minutes is an eternity.

          What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???

          You see the difference in the fact that if innocent people are killed by the use of "high-precision" weapons by the Israeli army, then this is a mistake, a regrettable accident, but if Assad's innocent people died from the bombs, then of course, these are bloody terrorists and war criminals. Obviously the same.
        2. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 14: 27 New
          -5
          Quote: sssla
          What is the difference a blank weighing 1 ton or 5 will fall on you ???

          The difference is that in "5 minutes" you will be at a safe distance.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And how many similar comments did you leave when the USA burned Basra with white phosphorus together with people?

          Seriously? Find the topic where it was discussed and show what I wrote there.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 October 2015 14: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Professor

          Seriously? Find the topic where it was discussed and show what I wrote there.

          That was a couple of years ago, but I still remember. At first you asked to prove that you used white phosphorus.
          Then you raised the topic -And whether the United States signed the White Phosphorus Convention.
          Sorry, but I don’t remember another. Maybe there was no other wink
          By the way, here is the latest article on US crimes. there are no your comments, you probably haven’t noticed the article
        4. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 14: 38 New
          -9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Sorry, but I don’t remember another. Maybe there was no other

          Was there a boy?
        5. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 October 2015 15: 46 New
          +17
          Quote: Professor

          Was there a boy?

          Of course not. Basra and corpses were not burned in the streets of Belgrade. In Vietnam, no one used gas and napalm. And the hospital in Afghanistan was not bombed either.
          But Assad in Syria, the butcher is yes.
        6. Aleks28
          Aleks28 25 October 2015 21: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Of course not. Basra and corpses were not burned in the streets of Belgrade. In Vietnam, no one used gas and napalm. And the hospital in Afghanistan was not bombed either.
          But Assad in Syria, the butcher is yes.

          In the torus nothing is said about it ... Assad "Demon" and the Jews are holy. Is it hard to remember? And the boy was .... And do not argue anymore .....
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 25 October 2015 19: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    No one is warning children in Sderot before rocket fire. Thanks to radars, children have only 15 seconds to run into the bomb shelter. So 5 minutes is an eternity. In my years I have run more than a kilometer during this time.

    And who started?
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 20: 12 New
      -2
      Quote: Alex28
      And who started?

      And in court they ask who started it?
    2. Aleks28
      Aleks28 25 October 2015 20: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: atalef

      And in court they ask who started it?

      No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?
    3. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 21: 09 New
      -2
      Quote: Alex28
      Quote: atalef

      And in court they ask who started it?

      No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?

      Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
      That is life
    4. Your friend
      Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: Alex28
      Quote: atalef

      And in court they ask who started it?

      No !!!! Judged ... requestYugoslavia ... Continue?

      Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
      That is life

      Seriously, Assad is already terrified. How many years is the war going on? How many have already filed, well, those who have what?
    5. Aleks28
      Aleks28 25 October 2015 21: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Your friend
      Seriously, Assad is already terrified. How many years is the war going on? How many have already filed, well, those who have what?
      MONEY IS NEEDED :::: Need at least crack (one word "Saints") Turns already ...
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 25 October 2015 21: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef

    Go on. For this, a lawsuit must be filed, by the way, and a civilian can do the same, start, you look and people will reach for you. But on Assad and Co. - believe me, who will serve.
    That is life

    I’ll continue !!! Life is not about money, but according to conscience. On that we stand and you (you) do not understand this !!!! Oaths and persecution will be until you understand that conscience (soul) is at the head of everything! S. W. Alexander
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 25 October 2015 21: 45 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    And in court they ask who started it?

    Before your conscience, answer! The Torah does not recognize conscience! I do not recognize the Torah! Judge ... requestAnd the court will not be yours !!! Believe me!
  • atalef
    atalef 25 October 2015 22: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: Alex28
    Before your conscience, answer! The Torah does not recognize conscience!

    Another Torah connoisseur. laughing
    how many letters in the Hebrew alphabet do you even know? laughing
  • MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 25 October 2015 23: 01 New
    -7
    Quote: atalef
    Another Torah connoisseur

    Do they thump there before entering the site? request
  • Your friend
    Your friend 25 October 2015 23: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Quote: atalef
    Another Torah connoisseur

    Do they thump there before entering the site? request

    “They”, “there”, “thump” - comrade go the right way. (
  • VOLOD
    VOLOD 25 October 2015 22: 23 New
    0
    exercise correctly. otherwise it will come in handy again.
  • atalef
    atalef 25 October 2015 19: 21 New
    -1
    Quote: sssla
    Quote: Professor
    Hmm ... Asadovites warn the population before the strike?

    The discussion was about this. Only the problem is not what they warn, but about the fact that after 5 minutes they begin to bomb))) What is humanism ???

    In what takes more than 5 minutes laughing , by the way, at what distance will you manage to escape even in 5 minutes. if they tell you that your house will be bombed?
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 25 October 2015 20: 46 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      In that it takes more than 5 minutes laughing, by the way, at what distance you will have time to escape even in 5 minutes. if they tell you that your house will be bombed?

      It depends on the preparation.To all!!!Request !!!! Do not minus: "Professor" and "Atalef." These are real antipodes.
      1. atalef
        atalef 25 October 2015 21: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Alex28
        It depends on the preparation.

        So - you will survive good
  • Amnestied
    Amnestied 25 October 2015 19: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    and in Gaza, all (according to their data) killed about 2000 people, including militants? The population density in Gaza is one of the largest in the world.

    Professor, update the training manual in your synagogue. It has already been ordered to speak to the PFGU and only to one PFGU and not to hide anything !!!
  • nemets
    nemets 27 October 2015 20: 37 New
    0
    and Israel will play out soon. they also help the SSA, no matter how much they deny it. And their shelling of the Syrian government army is another confirmation of this. It’s a pity the people of Israel, except Jews (in a bad sense), there are adequate people. And so if they start to cut them out, I would not want to see them in their homeland, let them run to the geyropu
  • 0255
    0255 25 October 2015 11: 02 New
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    What are you? For me, they all need to be sent as soon as possible to a meeting with the prophet.

    So are FSA terrorists for you or not? So you write how the SSA- “militias” are fighting for freedom and “will be pulled up by Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam,” today write that these “militias” should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.
    You yourself level the land of Gaza and Lebanon for shelling Hezbollah or Hamas, and you condemn Assad when he uses the army against terrorists
    Quote: Professor
    However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained his sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help. Circus.

    Maybe they were offered to surrender and go to the side of Assad, but they refused? If they refused, then let them go to the other world.
    Quote: Professor
    Not any, but the one that destroys them with minimal collateral damage. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.

    There are no wars without casualties among the civilian population and not painful deaths, no matter how much this is wanted. Your beloved USA, using chem. weapons in Vietnam, phosphorus and uranium bombs, tell us about humanity
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 11: 13 New
      -15
      Quote: 0255
      So are FSA terrorists for you or not? So you write how the SSA- “militias” are fighting for freedom and “will be pulled up by Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam,” today write that these “militias” should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.

      For me, all armed Syrians are enemies, but judging by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the FSA are no longer terrorists, but almost allies. So wait, in a couple of days they will be called at least militias on Russian TV.

      Quote: 0255
      You yourself level the land of Gaza and Lebanon for shelling Hezbollah or Hamas, and you condemn Assad when he uses the army against terrorists

      Do not tell my slippers. We would like to raze them to the ground would have razed them.

      Quote: 0255
      Maybe they were offered to surrender and go to the side of Assad, but they refused? If they refused, then let them go to the other world.

      And you do not guess, but listen to what Lavrov offered them. wink

      Quote: 0255
      There are no wars without casualties among the civilian population and not painful deaths, no matter how much this is wanted. Your beloved USA, using chem. weapons in Vietnam, phosphorus and uranium bombs, tell us about humanity

      Is the USA now in every barrel a gag? US crimes give you an excuse to commit your crimes?
      1. 0255
        0255 25 October 2015 11: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        And you do not guess, but listen to what Lavrov offered them. wink

        In politics, they often say one thing and do it differently. Putin tode promised to bomb only the IG, but the Russian aerospace forces bomb the "moderate" too. And they’re doing it right soldier
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 11: 52 New
          -7
          Quote: 0255
          In politics, they often say one thing and do it differently. Putin tode promised to bomb only the IG, but the Russian aerospace forces bomb the "moderate" too. And they’re doing it right

          We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel. hi
          1. 0255
            0255 25 October 2015 12: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel. hi

            About the "materiel" I told you everything
          2. Aleks28
            Aleks28 25 October 2015 22: 16 New
            -1
            Quote: Professor
            We agreed, neither Lavrov nor Putin will not take a word. And now if you do not mind, we will return to the materiel.

            We’ll return. We don’t believe Moses, and so on ..
      2. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 31 New
        +2
        "For me, all armed Syrians are enemies, but judging by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the FSA are no longer terrorists, but almost allies. So wait, in a couple of days they will be called at least militias on Russian TV."
        Give, please, an example where the Foreign Ministry called the SSA terrorists? And then vague doubts torment me that you are mistaken.
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 October 2015 19: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        US crimes give you an excuse to commit your crimes?

        Oleg, well, so obviously do not distort. Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization, and therefore we are allies, no?
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 19: 42 New
          -3
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Oleg, well, so obviously do not distort. Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization, and therefore we are allies, no?

          Recognize Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorists with all the consequences, and then we'll talk. So far, Hezbollah is your ally.
        2. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Israel recognized ISIS as a banned organization

          Hi Andrew
          terrorist - these are different concepts


          Quote: Andrew Y.
          and therefore we are allies, no?

          Well, the step is yours .Hizballah. Hamas, Islamic Jihad.
          Then for sure allies.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 25 October 2015 13: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: 0255
      So are FSA terrorists for you or not? So you write how the SSA- “militias” are fighting for freedom and “will be pulled up by Assad like Gaddafi or Saddam,” today write that these “militias” should be sent to the prophet as soon as possible. Decide already, good CCA or not.

      For Israel, all the terrorists in Syria are “militias”. In general, it seems Israel is taking leaps and bounds to justify Hitler.
      Here is what their Prime Minister Natanyahu said about that time:
      Adolf Hitler initially planned not to destroy the Jews, but only to expel them from Europe belay
      and he blamed Muslims for “inciting” the burning of Jews in Nazi Germany:
      but the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, persuaded him to commit genocide
      http://9tv.co.il/news/2015/10/21/215551.html
      These are the things the next step will probably be the justification of Hitler and his recognition as a "prominent political figure" of Europe who wanted the formation of the state of Israel and only "evil" Muslims "prevented" him.
      And then, apparently, Hitler’s recognition as a national hero will follow.
      Half the world is in shock.
      Here is the answer to the question why some Jewish Israelis consider ISIS terrorists and Al-Nusra "militias."
  • Old old
    Old old 26 October 2015 23: 38 New
    0
    However, the Russian Foreign Ministry suddenly regained his sight and offered his help to a moderate opposition. However, the militia rejected this help.

    Where does the information come from? The fact that the "moderate" flew to Moscow twice did not mean an offer of assistance to the rebels. Rather, the opposite.
  • nemets
    nemets 27 October 2015 20: 33 New
    0
    You did not understand the course of the Russian Federation - they proposed cooperation, they refused - now we have every right to destroy them. The world was offered!
  • 27091965
    27091965 25 October 2015 09: 56 New
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


    The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 12: 13 New
      -8
      Quote: 27091965i
      Quote: Professor
      FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


      The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

      Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: 27091965i
        Quote: Professor
        FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


        The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

        Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

        Seriously? Those. if high-precision weapons were sent on the wrong tip and for example they went to the hospital, and they killed a couple of innocent people, then this can be called minimization of losses ??? Here it is ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 12: 56 New
          -10
          Quote: Your friend
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: 27091965i
          Quote: Professor
          FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?


          The purpose of the weapon, the destruction of the enemy and it can not be humane or non-humane. It was created for this.

          Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

          Seriously? Those. if high-precision weapons were sent on the wrong tip and for example they went to the hospital, and they killed a couple of innocent people, then this can be called minimization of losses ??? Here it is ...

          It goes without saying that everyone understands that war is a war and civilian casualties are inevitable, but marriage in high-precision weapons or a mistake is one thing (you tried to avoid it, but force majeure didn’t allow it) or you initially use weapons that aren’t accurate, and it’s unknown where the incident is, I foresee your smile, but the court in The Hague will ask, what did you do to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties?
          1 scattered flyers?
          2 warned by glad about or by phone
          3 made warning bombing with a minimum charge
          4 marked territory with smoke bombs
          5 gave time after all this to the departure of citizens
          6 used precision weapons
          I'm not talking about such objects, such as schools, hospitals, mosques
          Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.
          Barrel throwers
          That's the whole difference.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 13: 04 New
            +8
            Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.
            It seems that you are raving when in Afghanistan in Kunduz they bombed a hospital with high-precision weapons (knowing that it was a hospital), what did you do "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"? Not really scattered leaflets or designated territory with smoke bombs? Probably all this was done and I'm just not in the know.
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 October 2015 18: 25 New
              -1
              Quote: Your friend
              Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

              There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
              So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
              Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice
              Quote: Your friend
              What is the impression that you are raving when in Afghanistan in Kunduz they bombed a hospital with high-precision weapons (knowing that it was a hospital), what did you do "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"?

              Once again I say that mistakes occur and happen all the time, the only question is when you (not literally) stand trial - they will ask you what you did to exclude it. That's all.
              Warned? Gave the opportunity to leave? Used precision weapons?
              You probably think, we (in Israel) out of kindness of soul, throw out leaflets, warn by phone, fully document the whole process from making a decision to an attack? Why is there a legal adviser in every battalion and it is present and approves all orders?
              Yes, because we are at 21, and not in the Middle Ages, when the crowd passed, the men were killed, the women were raped, robbed and went on.
              There are rules, laws and conventions, violations of these are a direct route to The Hague.
              And when you stand in front of the judge, he will not give a damn what you wanted to win, he will ask, victory is wonderful, but what did you do to minimize civilian casualties --- this is
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 38 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Your friend
                Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

                There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
                So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
                Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice
                Quote: Your friend
                What is the impression that you are raving when in Afghanistan in Kunduz they bombed a hospital with high-precision weapons (knowing that it was a hospital), what did you do "to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties"?

                Once again I say that mistakes occur and happen all the time, the only question is when you (not literally) stand trial - they will ask you what you did to exclude it. That's all.
                Warned? Gave the opportunity to leave? Used precision weapons?
                You probably think, we (in Israel) out of kindness of soul, throw out leaflets, warn by phone, fully document the whole process from making a decision to an attack? Why is there a legal adviser in every battalion and it is present and approves all orders?
                Yes, because we are at 21, and not in the Middle Ages, when the crowd passed, the men were killed, the women were raped, robbed and went on.
                There are rules, laws and conventions, violations of these are a direct route to The Hague.
                And when you stand in front of the judge, he will not give a damn what you wanted to win, he will ask, victory is wonderful, but what did you do to minimize civilian casualties --- this is


                Oh my God, what the Hague is, in The Hague, real terms are given only to losers. All, all war is a war crime. High-precision weapons, low-precision what is the difference - and all your jur. advisers, SMS no more than a way to otmazatsya in case of error. I repeat once again, if a real war comes to Israel (God forbid), no one will remember about sms, warnings, about the jur. advisers.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 25 October 2015 19: 09 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Oh my god, what the Hague is, in the Hague the real terms are given only to the losers

                  Are you sure ? belay
                  Quote: Your friend
                  All, all war is a war crime.

                  No, war is not a war crime, illegal methods of war are a war crime.

                  Quote: Your friend
                  High precision weapons, low precision, what's the difference

                  Only in the number of innocent dead
                  Quote: Your friend
                  - and all your jur. advisers, SMS no more than a way to otmazatsya in case of error.

                  No, so that the one who fears for his life doesn’t die (the civilian population suffers hostages of war, anyway), but bandits can either run or fight to the end
                  Well, in the case of filing a lawsuit, of course, I did A, B, C, D - who did not obey - it was my own fault.
                  Of course, all actions must be properly documented.
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Once again, if a real war comes to Israel (God forbid),

                  She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.
                  So don’t tell me what war is.
                  Quote: Your friend
                  no one will remember about sms, warnings, about jur. advisers

                  They are not. We are yes.
                  We have a completely different approach, which is probably probably why they cannot defeat us.
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 26 New
                    +7
                    Are you sure ? whites

                    Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?
                    No, war is not a war crime, illegal methods of war are a war crime.

                    Once again, war is a war crime, and legal or illegal methods of war are all immoral chatter. Killing people cannot be legal.
                    Only in the number of innocent dead

                    YOU are talking nonsense. Precision weapons were not invented at all in order to reduce the number of innocents killed. It was invented to accurately hit the GOAL. Do not come up with some strange functions of precision weapons.
                    No, so that the one who fears for his life doesn’t die (the civilian population suffers hostages of war, anyway), but bandits can either run or fight to the end
                    Well, in the case of filing a lawsuit, of course, I did A, B, C, D - who did not obey - it was my own fault.
                    Of course, all actions must be properly documented.

                    I say excuse, because the innocent still die.
                    She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.
                    So don’t tell me what war is.

                    Lord, do not put pressure on pity, you have not seen a real war, and I have not seen. A real war is when a full-blooded division is brought into battle in the morning, but it is no longer at the end of the day. As in the Second World War, when millions died, and not several thousand like yours.
                    They are not. We are yes.
                    We have a completely different approach, which is probably probably why they cannot defeat us.

                    It is so naive if not to say another word. Your allies of the USA, when they are really fighting, they don’t make any calls or calls. I understand that you are a patriot and all that, just don’t make a country out of Israel with a halo and wings.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 25 October 2015 20: 17 New
                      -4
                      Quote: Your friend
                      Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?

                      Then he was gone
                      The International Criminal Court (English International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; in abbreviated form - ICC) - the first permanent international criminal justice body, The competence of which includes the prosecution of those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. ABOUTofficially began its work on July 1, 2002.
                    2. Your friend
                      Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 27 New
                      +5
                      Quote: atalef
                      Quote: Your friend
                      Well of course I lied. The Hague court landed those who dropped napalm on Vietnam, Samos, Pol Pot, Penochet, who dropped cluster bombs and phosphorus in Iraq ... I didn’t miss anyone, no?

                      Then he was gone
                      The International Criminal Court (English International Criminal Court, ICC or ICCt; French Cour pénale internationale; in abbreviated form - ICC) - the first permanent international criminal justice body, The competence of which includes the prosecution of those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Established on the basis of the Rome Statute, adopted in 1998. ABOUTofficially began its work on July 1, 2002.


                      Tada kada was not. Cada US cassettes thrown in Iraq? Crimes against humanity and war crimes have a statute of limitations?
                    3. BARKHAN
                      BARKHAN 25 October 2015 20: 49 New
                      +7
                      And that this "international body" about the city of Faluju will sing, to water it with phosphorus.
                2. Old old
                  Old old 27 October 2015 00: 28 New
                  +1
                  She goes with us, was and will be - did you sit under the rockets? And under shelling? And under the bullets restored energy? - And I Yes.

                  The war for their land is different from the war for the occupied territories. And going to a military settlement on the occupied lands, one must be prepared for retaliatory measures by the local population.
            2. 0255
              0255 25 October 2015 18: 55 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Your friend
              Of course, the innocent and dead victim of precision, humane weapons will be pleased that she died from precision weapons, and not from the vile barrel thrower.

              There is no difference, of course, they kill in the war, but there are rules for warfare and dulling from them - called war crimes.
              So - not taking measures to ensure that civilians die during the conflict (I do not say the exception at all, I say not taking the necessary measures) - this applies to them.
              Therefore, of course, it’s very widespread for the dead, but the living (commanders) can be brought to justice ... And when you stand before the judge, he will not give a damn about what you wanted to win, he will ask - victory is wonderful, but what you made to minimize civilian casualties --- this is a question

              Atalef, do you yourself believe in what you wrote? This should be ideal, but for example, the American and NATO “victorious” generals of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya were handed over to the Hague tribunal, asked from them for the deaths of civilians? And the Hague is judged only by those who are not pleasing to the United States. When will we see Saakashvili, Turchinov, Poroshenko, Obama, McCain as the accused in The Hague?
              1. atalef
                atalef 25 October 2015 19: 27 New
                -7
                Quote: 0255
                Atalef, do you yourself believe in what you wrote?

                From the first to the last letter. Ask any Israeli and he will subscribe to any of my words.
                These are the realities of war (modern) and in BV in particular
                Quote: 0255
                but for example the American and NATO “victorious” generals of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya were handed over to the Hague tribunal

                For what ? You know, a war crime can be sued by any citizen, not a state - a citizen.
                There were claims, but I say again - the problem is not the death of civilians (this is war), but not taking measures to minimize them
                Quote: 0255
                And the Hague is judged only by those who are not pleasing to the United States. When will we see Saakashvili, Turchinov, Poroshenko, Obama, McCain as the accused in The Hague?

                Never until a lawsuit has been brought against them (substantiated and supported by facts) - in war crimes
                Here issuing an order for the use of barrel bombs is a crime, the implementation of this order is the same.
                The fact is whether you like it or not.
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 39 New
                  +5
                  Here issuing an order for the use of barrel bombs is a crime, the implementation of this order is the same.

                  Seriously: Is barrel bombs a prohibited weapon? Who banned him? I'm just not in the know, maybe it's true.
                  Never until a lawsuit has been brought against them (substantiated and supported by facts) - in war crimes

                  That is the truth. NEVER.
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            4. tiheros
              tiheros 26 October 2015 02: 37 New
              0
              War is a crime. Everything else is either unconscious delirium or conscious attempts to justify the victors.
        2. 27091965
          27091965 25 October 2015 13: 22 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.


          If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.
          The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?
          1. Professor
            Professor 25 October 2015 13: 45 New
            -6
            Quote: 27091965i
            If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.

            No, not everything. You do not use WMD and so on.

            Quote: 27091965i
            The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?

            War criminals must be tried.
          2. atalef
            atalef 25 October 2015 18: 28 New
            -4
            Quote: 27091965i
            If you have a task, attack and capture the enemy stronghold. You use all the weapons you have available that are acceptable for this battle, even if this stronghold is located within the city.

            and if this stronghold is in the basement of a hospital or school? Your actions? , and get to him through the streets, put half of the personnel?

            Quote: 27091965i
            The answer about humanism in the war gives the combat charter of the Armed Forces, do you have to send people to it immediately to the Hague?

            And where is it written in the charter - regardless of civilian casualties? Bring me a paragraph?
            1. 27091965
              27091965 25 October 2015 19: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              And where is it written in the charter - regardless of civilian casualties? Bring me a paragraph?


              You did not correctly ask the question.

              21. Activity and decisiveness of actions:

              The commander’s decision to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end. Inaction, failure to use all the forces, means and opportunities to achieve success, indecision and passivity lead to defeat. Page 18. Combat Charter for the preparation and conduct of combined arms combat.
              1. atalef
                atalef 25 October 2015 20: 21 New
                -2
                Quote: 27091965i
                21. Activity and decisiveness of actions:

                In what? The destruction of the enemy, or the innocent civilian population?
                Quote: 27091965i
                The commander’s decision to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end. Inaction, failure to use all the forces, means and opportunities to achieve success, indecision and passivity lead to defeat. Page 1

                AN ENEMY, I understood correctly 7 The question is not in the destruction of the enemy, but in measures to prevent accidental casualties.
                Read carefully --- ACCIDENTAL VICTIM EVENTS
                1. 27091965
                  27091965 25 October 2015 21: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  Read carefully --- ACCIDENTAL VICTIM EVENTS


                  Now is not the time of chivalry when they went out into the open field. Fights are mainly fought in the settlements where the civilian population is located. Why they didn’t come out, if they were offered a corridor, they can be answered only after taking the settlement. Therefore, "the decision of the commander to defeat the enemy must be firm and without hesitation brought to the end." The adversary is a generic name.

                  If I am not mistaken, do you think they are not negotiating?
        3. Victorio
          Victorio 25 October 2015 15: 25 New
          +5
          to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties?
          1 scattered flyers?
          2 warned by glad about or by phone
          3 made warning bombing with a minimum charge
          4 marked territory with smoke bombs
          5 gave time after all this to the departure of citizens
          6 used precision weapons
          I'm not talking about such objects, such as schools, hospitals, mosques
          Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.
          Barrel throwers
          That's the whole difference.

          ===
          the main thing here is not to organize a revolution
        4. Old old
          Old old 27 October 2015 00: 10 New
          0
          Otherwise, you’ll go to court in The Hague.

          Yeah. The United States does not crawl out for shooting weddings and bombing hospitals from The Hague. Yes, and Israel behind the BSU in the United Nations school and hospitals there (in The Hague) is not visible.
    2. 0255
      0255 25 October 2015 12: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: atalef
      Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties. That's the whole difference, shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of nitrate

      And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists? Invent a homing head for a barrel? laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 25 October 2015 18: 29 New
        -3
        Quote: 0255
        And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists?

        Pyom, quarterly.
        Quote: 0255
        Invent a homing head for a barrel?

        Well, explain it in court, they will enter your position.
        1. 0255
          0255 25 October 2015 19: 02 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: 0255
          And what do you command to do if there is no precision weapon, and you need to fight terrorists?

          Pyom, quarterly.

          So that the soldiers who entered the city were shot from the windows of the houses? About the court, I unsubscribed above. That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.
          1. atalef
            atalef 25 October 2015 19: 38 New
            -2
            Quote: 0255
            So that the soldiers who entered the city were shot from the windows of the houses?

            Spin, we spin
            Quote: 0255
            That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.

            Not at all if the measures described by me have been implemented.
            1. 0255
              0255 25 October 2015 19: 58 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: 0255
              That's just the United States, bombing residential neighborhoods with precision bombs, something no one is judging.

              Not at all if the measures described by me have been implemented.

              It's my pleasure? belay In Yugoslavia, NATO bombed residential areas of Belgrade, a chemical plant, columns of Albanian refugees from Kosovo, mind you with high-precision weapons. Killed 249 military, 22 police, destroyed 4-6 Yugoslav tanks, the same number of armored personnel carriers, and civilian casualties amounted to about 1700 people. - Do you think such a "concern for civilians"?
              Atalef, you are naive. Pour over someone else as NATO "is making efforts to prevent civilian casualties."
              Look at what Libya has become after the "democratization" of NATO bombs, the concern for civilians is straightforward am
              1. atalef
                atalef 25 October 2015 20: 48 New
                -6
                Quote: 0255
                Killed 249 military, 22 police, destroyed 4-6 Yugoslav tanks, the same number of armored personnel carriers, and civilian casualties amounted to about 1700 people. - Do you think such a "concern for civilians"?

                So what's the problem ? Let them sue good
                Quote: 0255
                Atalef, you are naive. Pour over someone else as NATO "is making efforts to prevent civilian casualties."

                I am real, everything that I write happens with us.
                Quote: 0255
                Look at what Libya has become after the "democratization" of NATO bombs, the concern for civilians is straightforward

                You know, I don’t give a damn about Libya. If someone rapes, this does not mean that I can do the same thing.
                I see a difference in approach
                Therefore - barrel bombs and the death of civilians, for you = -norm. in order to achieve a goal
                For us, no.
                Maybe the results are therefore different. hi
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 59 New
                  +5
                  I see a difference in approach
                  Therefore - barrel bombs and the death of civilians, for you = -norm. in order to achieve a goal
                  For us, no.
                  Maybe the results are therefore different. hi


                  So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.
                  I am really glad that there is such a clean and naive person like you.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 25 October 2015 21: 02 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Your friend
                    So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.

                    such ?
                  2. Your friend
                    Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 17 New
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Your friend
                    So I imagine sitting Atalef at the computer, prints this message and his white wings grow, and the halo becomes especially dazzling.

                    such ?

                    No, like naive Chukchi young men who believe in the Hague Tribunal)))
                  3. VOLOD
                    VOLOD 25 October 2015 22: 29 New
                    +2
                    Yes, these are exactly you and your overseas friends. guilty of destroying millions. all over the earth.
              2. 0255
                0255 25 October 2015 22: 24 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                So what's the problem ? Let them sue good

                Can you still believe in the honesty and integrity of the Hague Tribunal, which in Yugoslavia accused only Serbs and turned a blind eye to the atrocities of the Croats and Albanians, as well as the Americans dropping uranium bombs?
  • Old old
    Old old 26 October 2015 23: 59 New
    +1
    Of course, if you do not pay attention to the Geneva Conventions on minimizing civilian casualties.

    Wrote a citizen of the state, "laying with parting" on the UN, Geneva, IAEA and others in the field of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction.
    ... shoot precision weapons or drop barrels of saltpeter

    The dump height eliminates the lack of electronics and the correctability of the trajectory, the accuracy depends on the pilot's experience. Efficiency in manpower in field shelters and unarmored vehicles is comparable. The cost of the FAB and homemade products are significantly different. Why overpay? After all, Israel does not demolish all the homes of "Palestinian terrorists" with missile and bomb strikes, but also uses specially armored bulldozers, since it is cheaper. So the Syrians are "optimizing" costs.
  • Your friend
    Your friend 25 October 2015 12: 49 New
    +1
    Where in the passage you mentioned about humanity?) Who are you asking the question to?
  • Old old
    Old old 26 October 2015 23: 32 New
    0
    Still, what's the problem? FAB-500 is more humane than 200 liters of nitrate?

    Industrial FABs for ISIS and Co., and self-made (moderate) for the "moderate" opposition.
    "Good" terrorists - good coffins, and "bad" - bad ones.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 October 2015 08: 27 New
    +4
    Perhaps a message will soon appear that we should be afraid of all the barrels standing on the ground. What a little! What a horror!
    1. 0255
      0255 25 October 2015 09: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Perhaps a message will soon appear that we should be afraid of all the barrels standing on the ground. What a little! What a horror!

      Yeah, I have barrels in the country ... Right now, they will write me down as terrorists laughing
      1. Old old
        Old old 27 October 2015 00: 04 New
        0
        Yeah, I have barrels in the country ...

        Perhaps there is an APPARATUS for the production of liquids that can be used in Molotov cocktails?
  • Alexart
    Alexart 25 October 2015 08: 28 New
    +9
    Nicho Nicho, the time of Western mini-Goebbels is approaching
  • Gray 43
    Gray 43 25 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +3
    The worst weapon for the West is the exposure of their crooked fakes, for then people start to THINK.
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    1. ICT
      ICT 25 October 2015 09: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      Jani Radari “Gelsomino in the land of liars” was documentary.

      for both points of view, wink lol
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 25 October 2015 12: 32 New
      +8
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      Two-faced mu ... ki, everything they have built on a lie.

      Yes, all of them are big dreamers and storytellers there. You can still recall how Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahu dishonored the whole world showing from the UN rostrum a picture of the Iranian nuclear bomb he imagines lolThe laughter was smile

      The main thing for them is to start misinformation and after that it is possible to bomb someone and other things that are not entirely beautiful to do.
    3. Mikhal
      Mikhal 25 October 2015 22: 25 New
      +1
      Two-faced mu ... ki, everything they have built on a lie.

      The USA is an empire of lies. And their father, Satan, is a liar and father of lies.
  • Bongo
    Bongo 25 October 2015 09: 22 New
    +4
    And the villains - asadists stuffed this "bomb" with some white powder (

    Unfortunately, the author who raised a rather important problem does not understand at all what he writes about. request
    And the villains - asadists stuffed this "bomb" with some white powder (


    This white powder - not TNT, but a handicraft made by explosives - most likely a mixture of ammonium nitrate with aluminum powder. This cheap and easy to manufacture surrogate explosive is powerful enough, but also very capricious in terms of reliability. Being very hydroscopic, it absorbs water losing its explosive properties.
    1. 0255
      0255 25 October 2015 09: 43 New
      +6
      Quote: Bongo
      This white powder - not TNT, but a handicraft made by explosives - most likely a mixture of ammonium nitrate with aluminum powder. This cheap and easy to manufacture surrogate explosive is powerful enough, but also very capricious in terms of reliability. Being very hydroscopic, it absorbs water losing its explosive properties.

      If this bomb was intended for Islamists, it is a pity that it did not explode.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 25 October 2015 09: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: 0255
        If this bomb was intended for Islamists, it is a pity that it did not explode.

        And there is. yes Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the “world community” for some reason did not notice this.
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 18: 32 New
          -5
          Quote: Bongo
          Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the “world community” for some reason did not notice this.

          Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row.
          Now come in handy for ourselves.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 58 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Bongo
            Syrians are by no means pioneers in this. Such weapons were previously used in many local conflicts, but the “world community” for some reason did not notice this.

            Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row.
            Now come in handy for ourselves.

            Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 October 2015 19: 15 New
              -4
              Quote: Your friend
              Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?

              EEEE, do not slow down at the level of the African elephant, since when do suicide belts drop from helicopters?
              Or do you think saltpeter with aluminum powder can only be rolled up in barrels?
              In Syria, the official representative offices of Hamas and Islamic Jihad were opened (well, and a dozen other territorial organizations.) - with training camps and the entire infrastructure.
              Now they are all against him and are fighting.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 36 New
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Your friend
                Eeeee, the Syrians taught bombs from helicopters to drop bombs ??? Seriously?

                EEEE, do not slow down at the level of the African elephant, since when do suicide belts drop from helicopters?
                Or do you think saltpeter with aluminum powder can only be rolled up in barrels?
                In Syria, the official representative offices of Hamas and Islamic Jihad were opened (well, and a dozen other territorial organizations.) - with training camps and the entire infrastructure.
                Now they are all against him and are fighting.

                It’s cool in the thread about bombs from helicopters, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad, in the manufacture of bombs" which bombs and helicopters are from Hamas ???? And you still do not ask me to slow down ???? Hahahaha ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 25 October 2015 20: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: Your friend
                  The talk in the branch is about helicopter bombs, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs

                  But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore? wink
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 28 New
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Your friend
                    The talk in the branch is about helicopter bombs, you write "Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs

                    But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore? wink


                    Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 25 October 2015 20: 49 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Your friend
                      Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (

                      You are talking about helicopters, and I'm talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
                      1. Your friend
                        Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 00 New
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Your friend
                        Ischo of time it was about bombs from helicopters (

                        You are talking about helicopters, and I'm talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

                        This is not me, this is the whole branch about helicopters and bombs from them. And you have about Hamas and Islamic Jihad (
                      2. VOLOD
                        VOLOD 25 October 2015 22: 32 New
                        +1
                        not a topic like that. we are talking about bombs.
          2. Old old
            Old old 27 October 2015 00: 16 New
            +1
            Yes, they taught him to use Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the manufacture of bombs and death row belts. Now it is useful for themselves.

            Israeli instructors of the Syrian rebels are also not taught herbariums to collect and supply Al-Nusra and Co. not weapons with brushes, but paint.
    2. corporal
      corporal 25 October 2015 09: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Bongo
      hydroscopic

      Guyгroscopic. hi
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 25 October 2015 09: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Corporal
        Hygroscopic

        Thank you hi
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 25 October 2015 13: 17 New
      +8

      Honestly, the photo is very similar to the staged one, if the barrel fell from such a great height that it went so deep into the ground, at least it should have put on stand the entire “closest” tile to which the road is lined and the cut at the tile that is adjacent to the barrel is flat as if she were neatly trimmed.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 25 October 2015 09: 48 New
    +9
    Well, yes, of course ...... dumping the nuclear "Kids" and "Fat Men" on the heads of the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is pranks (there is no need to apologize even), but barrels throwing barrels at the terrorists is a "mess".
    Where does the public look only?
  • ICT
    ICT 25 October 2015 09: 58 New
    0
    Quote: Author Roman Katkov
    In fact, analyzing the photos and videos posted on the Web that these are fakes,


    let's get rid of rhetoric and analyze this video


    ..........
    as for me, this is a barrel dropped into the territory occupied by the enemy, the destroyed part of the buildings and it is not clear whether it fell into that godfather.


    and the author of the article is just the same journalist as the foreign media. distorting facts, NOT more than that
  • Strashila
    Strashila 25 October 2015 11: 02 New
    +6
    If my memory serves me right, these weapons were widely used by Israel in its first wars with the Arabs, compensating for the absence of bombers. Only there the barrels were not dropped from helicopters, but transport aircraft were used. There was a precedent when they sent a plane loaded with barrels in auto mode to one of the objects of the Arabs.
  • raid14
    raid14 25 October 2015 11: 28 New
    +3
    To smoke the enemy from shelters, buildings, cellars in Chechnya, they used RPGs with packets of ordinary chloramine b attached to a grenade, which was also not a “humane” but effective weapon.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 25 October 2015 11: 31 New
    +3
    information war is becoming increasingly important .......
  • Are
    Are 25 October 2015 13: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Volga Cossack
    information war is becoming increasingly important .......

    War is garbage, the main thing is how to file it .. wink You can agree to the complete insanity that nuclear weapons are the most humane .... fool
  • antiexpert
    antiexpert 25 October 2015 14: 47 New
    +2
    and they say they still strewed white powder on the igilys, and they in a panic decided that this was a chemical weapon
    it turned out - flour)))
  • Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 25 October 2015 15: 01 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor

    Not. The Geneva Convention takes a different view. The weapon must kill without causing unnecessary torment.
    Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 15: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Eugene30
      Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

      Do not worry so much for them. "Palestinians" live better than the Russians. And their mortality is less than yours, and their life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. You worry for yourself.
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 15: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Eugene30
        Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

        Do not worry so much for them. "Palestinians" live better than the Russians. And their mortality is less than yours, and their life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. You worry for yourself.

        You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))
        And what mortality in Germany and Britain, horror. So it seems the Palestinians live better than the Germans. To cite mortality as an argument for a better Palestinian life is such insanity, with an average age in Palestine of about 18-19 years. This proves a lot))))
        You are such a professor.
        http://ru.theglobaleconomy.com/compare-countries/
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 15: 50 New
          -2
          Quote: Your friend
          You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))

          Young man, learn the materiel.
          Россия 70.47
          Judea and Samaria 75.91

          LIFE EXPECTANCY AT BIRTH

          PS
          Even in Gaza they live longer than yours (74.87). sad
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 15: 59 New
            +2
            [quote = professor] [quote = Your friend] You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.))) [/ Quote]
            Young man, learn the materiel.
            Россия 70.47
            Judea and Samaria 75.91

            You are really raving. Your "Palestine" (you yourself wrote this) suddenly became "Judea and Samaria" ???))))
            How about an example that the Russian Foreign Ministry called the SSA terrorists?
            What about the evidence of your words that Europeans bring Syrians to their place ???
            Do not forget?
            PS Even in Gaza? Well, and in Gaza the death rate is probably lower than in Germany, which is probably why they live better than in Germany. Excellent professor - you are the best.)))
          2. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 16: 17 New
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: Your friend
            You again lied for 2013 Palestine - 73,2 years, Russia - 71,07 years. Lied 2,3 times.)))

            Young man, learn the materiel.
            Россия 70.47
            Judea and Samaria 75.91



            PS
            Even in Gaza they live longer than yours (74.87). sad


            You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....
            PS. But what about your data from the desk that found the WMD in Iraq? Well, the one that provided the test tube with powder, which was shocked at the UN by a person from the USA? Good data you have)))
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 25 October 2015 17: 07 New
              +2
              All that the professor wants to present here about the so-called short life expectancy in Russia is simply a fraud.
              In fact, everything is "a little" wrong.
              In 1961-1962, the average life expectancy of the population of the RSFSR was 68,8 years, by 1990 it had not changed and amounted to 69,2 years
              In 1991, the USSR collapsed, followed by radical reforms and the associated socio-economic crisis, which negatively affected the life expectancy of the population.
              By 1995, the average life expectancy of the population of Russia fell to 64,5 years. Since 2004, a steady increase in life expectancy began. In 2013, it grew to 70,8 years.

              http://newsruss.ru/doc/index.php/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B6%D0%B

              8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD

              %D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81

              %D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8

              That is, we reached the standard of living at 70 years old back in 1990 (25 years ago), but then, in connection with the coming to power of various reformers such as Chubais, Gaidar, Berezovsky, and so on, under the "leadership" of Yeltsin, drug addiction blossomed in the country , alcoholism, smoking, crime increased unusually, I mean murders, heart disease, and life expectancy dropped sharply.
              Therefore, we now actually only achieved the life expectancy that existed under socialism and in the decline in life expectancy we should be "grateful" to the reforms and reformers of the 90s.
              Here are the data from another site on life expectancy in the USSR / Russia:
              1917 32
              1927 44
              1939 47
              1955 64
              1956 67
              1958 68
              1959 69
              1961 70
              1975 70,4
              1980 70,9
              1985 71,4
              1990 69,5
              1995 64
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 25 October 2015 17: 18 New
                +1
                Again, I forgot to add that life expectancy in “warm” countries where there is no winter for half a year and other “differences” in nature and there is a fairly elementary health care is always higher. Remember where in our country, for example, the most centenarians are right in the Caucasus - where it is always warm (Africa , India, we won’t take into account terrible unsanitary conditions there, and actually there’s not much to eat)
            2. Professor
              Professor 25 October 2015 18: 09 New
              -1
              Quote: Your friend
              You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....

              No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

              Farewell hi
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 25 October 2015 19: 27 New
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

                What's the use? At least 99,9 years ..... Russians in this are different from you. Well, until 65-70 you still can do something - and then you are a burden, both for relatives and for the state. What good is it from you if besides gas !!! are you not producing anything?
                Our, Russian people, more practical than the Jewish ones, died, appeared before God, umuntul for all sins, and here he was born again.)))
                What about the Jews? They cling to life worthless until noon, they will create a bunch of problems for everyone - from relatives, doctors and to carers, they still can’t decide who to leave the junk on.
                We have nothing to lose, they lived and left - they repented and returned))))))))) Optimal 70, but that would have fallen asleep and did not wake up.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 25 October 2015 20: 25 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  .Russians and in this they differ from you. Well, until 65-70 you still can do something - and then you are a burden, both for relatives and for the state

                  Indeed, they differ, we have animals, not a burden either for relatives or for the state.
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  What good is it from you if besides gas !!! are you not producing anything?

                  Gazprom - dreams come true?
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Ashi, Russian people, more practical than the Jewish ones — died, appeared before God, mantained for all sins, and here he was born again.

                  Baobab?
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  What about the Jews? They cling to life worthless until noon, they will create a bunch of problems for everyone - from relatives, doctors and to carers, they still can’t decide who to leave the junk on.

                  Now I will pay.
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  We have nothing to lose, they lived and left - they repented and returned))

                  Are back
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  • Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 25 October 2015 16: 21 New
    0
    And in my opinion in these barrels of bleach - so that moderate-free-democratic medieval homeless people organized with Turkish, American, Saudi and Israeli money do not become seedlings of the plague. winked
  • Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 25 October 2015 16: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Eugene30
    Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

    Do not worry so much for them. "Palestinians" live better than the Russians. And their mortality is less than yours, and their life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. You worry for yourself.

    Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 18: 13 New
      -3
      Quote: Eugene30
      Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

      I usually don’t feed trolls ...
      With the "genocide" they live 5 years longer than you? wink
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 25 October 2015 19: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        With the "genocide" they live 5 years longer than you?

        I don’t know how about five years, but somehow I’ve come across people who have passed the northern camps in my life, in the Perm Territory, in the Komi Republic (the Gulag), the climate is not the same. What is characteristic is that these people, despite their age, have fairly good health, excellent memory, are not poorly educated, and certainly do not look their age — at least you can remove them from 10-15 years. How to explain it? It seems that under extreme conditions, the human body includes some kind of reserves tuned to make the body resist time and circumstances. But what is characteristic is that they (the Gulag) are self-sufficient, while the long-lived drug-livers are simply a burden.
        May God grant health to everyone .... Just observation.
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 October 2015 19: 48 New
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          How to explain it?

          This is called natural selection. The strongest survived. This does not apply to the Philistines. There, as can be seen from the statistics, almost everyone survives.
        2. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 28 New
          -3
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          How to explain it?

          No way, the weak died long ago - but this does not mean at all that they did not want to live or did not deserve a happy long life
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          But what is characteristic is that they (the Gulag) are self-sufficient, while the long-lived drug-livers are simply a burden.

          A burden? For whom ?
          Send your mom and dad to the Gulag (not for you personally, so for those who wish), so that they become self-sufficient, otherwise God forbid, you will have to spend money on medicines.
          hi
    2. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 18: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: Eugene30
      Quote: Professor
      Quote: Eugene30
      Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

      Do not worry so much for them. "Palestinians" live better than the Russians. And their mortality is less than yours, and their life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. You worry for yourself.

      Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

      In relation to whom? If in Russia life expectancy is less than in Palestine (by 5 years) - maybe you would prefer that you would be genocidal too?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Eugene30
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Eugene30
        Does the Geneva Convention believe that Palestinians are people too?

        Do not worry so much for them. "Palestinians" live better than the Russians. And their mortality is less than yours, and their life expectancy is 5 years longer than yours. You worry for yourself.

        Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

        In relation to whom? If in Russia life expectancy is less than in Palestine (by 5 years) - maybe you would prefer that you would be genocidal too?


        Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 19: 40 New
          -2
          Quote: Your friend
          Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?

          Who cares ? We are talking about life expectancy.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Your friend
            Life expectancy in Palistine? OK. What proportion of the population in Palestine are people aged 50 to 70? What share in Russia?

            Who cares ? We are talking about life expectancy.

            Indeed, none, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, a microscopic amount of old people. That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 October 2015 20: 31 New
              -1
              Quote: Your friend
              indeed, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, there are a microscopic number of old people.

              Yes ? I wonder how they have an average life expectancy of 75 years?
              Did you learn math?
              Quote: Your friend
              That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?

              And since when did we occupy Palestine? Since 1948 wink
              Already one youth has reached the age of 75. wink
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 37 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Your friend
                indeed, despite the fact that the average age in Palestine is 18-19 years old, there are a microscopic number of old people.

                Yes ? I wonder how they have an average life expectancy of 75 years?
                Did you learn math?
                Quote: Your friend
                That's when all these young people grow up, how do you think they will overtake Israel in terms of life expectancy?

                And since when did we occupy Palestine? Since 1948 wink
                Already one youth has reached the age of 75. wink


                What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 25 October 2015 21: 14 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Your friend
                  What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...

                  This is who has an average age of 75 at palaces? Do we have 82? belay
                  It is about average life expectancy.
                  For those who are in the tank. one lived to 80, the second to 60. both seem to be up to 70.
                  Got it?
                  Life expectancy is one of the most important indicators
                  quality of life.
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 24 New
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Your friend
                    What??? You have average age = average life expectancy ???? And this person offers me to learn math ??? Ahahahaha ...

                    This is who has an average age of 75 at palaces? Do we have 82? belay
                    It is about average life expectancy.
                    For those who are in the tank. one lived to 80, the second to 60. both seem to be up to 70.
                    Got it?
                    Life expectancy is one of the most important indicators
                    quality of life.


                    You have an average age of 82 years in Israel ???????????????????? Ahahahahha ...
                    Once again, look on the Internet how the average age differs from the average life expectancy. Do not take a break. Ahahaha ....
                    Got it?

                    Seriously, look at the Internet for the difference in these terms and how they are considered. It is just a shame that you carry.
                    By the way, I turn to you, you are all the same unfamiliar to us. Be more polite.
  • Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 25 October 2015 18: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Eugene30
    Yeah, genocide politics, is that normal?

    I usually don’t feed trolls ...
    With the "genocide" they live 5 years longer than you? wink

    Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically. In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers. These are all facts recorded by international organizations, and this happens all the time. You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 18: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Eugene30
      I would say they live longer only theoretically.

      No, not theoretically. This is their own data confirmed by WHO. By the way, we treat 140 “Palestinians” at our own expense a year, supply water and electricity to Gaza for free, and they have 000 newborns per 31.11 people at that time. This is the 1,000th place in the world in terms of fertility. For comparison, you have 37, which is 11.6th in the world. Here is such a "genocide." fellow
    2. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 18: 41 New
      -2
      Quote: Eugene30
      Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

      Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
      Quote: Eugene30
      In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

      Apparently, it does not end.
      Quote: Eugene30
      then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

      That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
      Quote: Eugene30
      You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

      This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 47 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Eugene30
        Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

        Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
        Quote: Eugene30
        In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

        Apparently, it does not end.
        Quote: Eugene30
        then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

        That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
        Quote: Eugene30
        You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

        This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi


        Is it not difficult to provide evidence of the standard of living in Russia and in Palestine?
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 25 October 2015 19: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        This is your own life for nothing, if you cry for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than the Russian

        You know, but this example is not entirely correct ...... Palestine, it is also in AFRICA Palestine ...
        Take Russia - there is everything your heart desires - the tropics, subtropics, the Arctic, the steppes, the tundra, etc. - if you take the Caucasus, we’ll stick 1X1 to you long-livers, and if the Arctic ... then alas, everything is shorter with the duration, since the processes of life are different (half a day, half a polar night) —and if we align everyone in all regions - then we get the average duration such as you take for the "trump card" for the whole of Russia.
        Do not be a jerk)))
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          You know, but this example is not entirely correct ...... Palestine, it is also in AFRICA Palestine ..

          Palestine in Africa !!! , So I would listen and listen. good
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Take Russia - there is everything your heart desires - the tropics, subtropics, the Arctic, the steppes, the tundra, etc. - if you take the Caucasus, we will stick the centenarians 1X1

          And I have an employee father 102 - stick horseradish laughing
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          and if we align everyone in all regions, we will get an average duration such as you take for a “trump card” for all of Russia.

          Take Norway, is it like the climate is not subtropical, or Canada? - and so what?
          Trump?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 26 October 2015 10: 07 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Palestine in Africa !!! , So I would listen and listen.

            Well, you understand that it’s figurative wink laughing
  • Your friend
    Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 30 New
    +1
    Ahahahaha .... The professor added me to the blacklist.))) How shallow and cowardly, for such a respectable person respected in the forum)))) Ayayay ...
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 25 October 2015 18: 58 New
      +4
      He needs to work out ... and here you are with your arguments. wink
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Barkhan
        He needs to work out ... and here you are with your arguments. wink

        Well, in general, I used to read his comments, he had good thoughts especially in arms, when he slightly lowered our urapatriots, for whom the ak-47 is the pinnacle of military thought. I just did not know that the professor is so touchy)))
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          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 42 New
            0
            Yes, we have a lot of bad things to fix. And our standard of living is lower than in Israel, and the army of Israel is strong. It's like that. But that nonsense that the professor writes is something.
          2. atalef
            atalef 25 October 2015 20: 33 New
            -2
            Quote: Barkhan
            . It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is the most important thing.

            And hearts laughing
            Quote: Barkhan
            . Again they are trying to (so far softly, but more insistently and impudently) to suggest that being a patriot is ashamed and not advanced

            good
            Quote: Barkhan
            Well, that's enough! Let's start raking

            Well, well, intelligence
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 25 October 2015 21: 11 New
              +5
              Thank you, but without your invitation, I’ll figure it out at home. Jews always overestimate their intelligence. And then they are found in Mexico and London, in the bathroom with a scarf around their neck.
              I do not pretend to be highly intelligent or highly educated. But I will do everything possible from me so that the enemies do not insult my fellow citizens.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: Barkhan
                Thank you, but without your invitation, I’ll figure it out at home. Jews always overestimate their intelligence. And then they are found in Mexico and London, in the bathroom with a scarf around their neck.
                I do not pretend to be highly intelligent or highly educated. But I will do everything possible from me so that the enemies do not insult my fellow citizens.

                Yes, what kind of enemies they entertain me, I don’t know about you, one has an average age = AVERAGE LIFE, another has mortality as a criterion of a standard of living.)))
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 25 October 2015 18: 45 New
    +10
    The professor is not as simple as it seems. Intelligent, well-read, quirky, insidious, cunning ... the enemy. Everything related to Russia, its actions or its allies is obsessed systematically, juicyly and with "evidence". It is ridiculed and overwhelmed with "facts and documents. "Everything connected with the United States or Israel is brilliant and wonderful. Why is there only a video posted today of wrecked Syrian tanks ... with his comments on" cowardly Syrian tankers fleeing from, ready to detonate with ammunition a tank standing in an open, shot-off place ". His compatriot Aron Zawi tried to besiege him, saying that the Syrian tankers weren’t so cowardly ... But the person suffered and he couldn’t stop. Generally speaking about courage in such a situation is possible only by visiting it personally.
    And yet I respect the Professor. He honestly does his job. For money or ideologically, it doesn’t matter. This is even useful for the site. So as not to relax. Friends need to be kept close and enemies even closer.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 25 October 2015 18: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Barkhan
      The professor is not as simple as it seems. Intelligent, well-read, quirky, insidious, cunning ... the enemy. Everything related to Russia, its actions or its allies is obsessed systematically, juicyly and with "evidence". It is ridiculed and overwhelmed with "facts and documents. "Everything connected with the United States or Israel is brilliant and wonderful. Why is there only a video posted today of wrecked Syrian tanks ... with his comments on" cowardly Syrian tankers fleeing from, ready to detonate with ammunition a tank standing in an open, shot-off place ". His compatriot Aron Zawi tried to besiege him, saying that the Syrian tankers weren’t so cowardly ... But the person suffered and he couldn’t stop. Generally speaking about courage in such a situation is possible only by visiting it personally.
      And yet I respect the Professor. He honestly does his job. For money or ideologically, it doesn’t matter. This is even useful for the site. So as not to relax. Friends need to be kept close and enemies even closer.

      Clever? He did the stuffing, and when you ask him the question where the data came from, the evidence will be presented, not one answer, a lie, and then an emergency))))
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 18: 59 New
        +4
        The training manual is not rubber, however ...
    2. raid14
      raid14 25 October 2015 19: 06 New
      +2
      I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.
      1. atalef
        atalef 25 October 2015 19: 41 New
        -1
        Quote: raid14
        I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.

        SHABAK? belay Shabak does not do this.
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: raid14
          I had one friend on the social network from the promised country, similar to our Professor, on duty on the social network I wrote comments, and eventually turned out to be an employee of Shabak.

          SHABAK? belay Shabak does not do this.

          Well, you know better in Shabak ... (brush)
        2. raid14
          raid14 26 October 2015 10: 50 New
          0
          MAMAD and a bunch of other organizations are engaged in social networks in Israel. That is, the Israeli counterintelligence does not collect and does not process information on the Internet, you still keep us stupid.
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 25 October 2015 18: 54 New
    +5
    About the bombs ... The site probably has Comrades in the subject? ... We have plenty of warehouses and storages with expired, or close to this, ammunition. Their disposal also gets a penny. And if you dump them on the "moderately undetermined"? If will the barrel be filled with mortar mines or artillery shells, will the effect be more serious? And we don’t seem to go beyond the framework of the “Geneva Conventions.” For reliability, you can fix the initiating charge. Who needs to come up with. So it’s pleasant and useful. Who knows? Is the game worth the candle?
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 25 October 2015 18: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Barkhan
      Who knows? Worth the game of candles?

      The fill factor in this case will be low and there is a high probability that not all will detonate. In an explosion, it scatters them.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 19: 37 New
        +5
        It seems that everything detonates during explosions during disposal. And I would say a bunch of mines with a barrel is not sickly, it’s buzzing. There were a lot of bombs under the Union of Aviation too. As I understand it, looking at the ruins, there is no question of further gallant bombing?
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 36 New
          -1
          Quote: Barkhan
          With explosions during disposal, everything seems to detonate

          Quote: Barkhan
          .And I would say a bunch of mines with a barrel is not sickly, so it’s buzzing

          yes, the first ball in the fight
          Quote: Barkhan
          .It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

          somehow weak negative
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 27 October 2015 11: 13 New
            +4
            What hurt you about the fight, it’s probably said that you’re a minor most likely ... I personally attended the disposal of ammunition. with a Jew? That's good. I'm not going to lie.
    2. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 19: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Barkhan
      ? If you get a tighter barrel filled with mortar mines or artillery shells, will the effect be more serious? And we don’t seem to go beyond the framework of the Geneva Conventions.

      It turns out that the problem is not explosives, but the fact that this type of ammunition excludes targeted bombing.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 25 October 2015 20: 13 New
        +6
        Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: Barkhan
          Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.

          what did you say there?
          Quote: Barkhan
          b.It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

          2-0, obviously not in yours hi
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 25 October 2015 21: 19 New
            +5
            Actually, it was a joke, but you can have a different gradation of humor there off the coast of M. Sea ... I would like to ask you to stop poking at strangers. Even if you are overwhelmed with emotions.
            1. Your friend
              Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Barkhan
              Actually, it was a joke, but you can have a different gradation of humor there off the coast of M. Sea ... I would like to ask you to stop poking at strangers. Even if you are overwhelmed with emotions.

              He has a defensive reaction when there is nothing to answer. And since I believe in him, even because of powerlessness in the emergency situation, he doesn’t throw him like a professor)))
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 25 October 2015 23: 02 New
                +5
                We’ll see, see ... but educated people, even tearing each other with skewers in a duel, must remain polite ... Otherwise, it resembles the stench of the field when you accidentally step into a bunch of d ....
          2. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 21: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Barkhan
            Don’t worry, please ... we’ll weld stabilizers to the barrel ... this tuning will take about five minutes. It doesn’t put much more aim.

            what did you say there?
            Quote: Barkhan
            b.It is necessary to rush into the fight. The struggle for the minds is most important

            2-0, obviously not in yours hi

            2-0 ??? Atalef, confess you are still a minor? An adult, such nonsense does not write. (
      2. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 15 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Barkhan
        ? If you get a tighter barrel filled with mortar mines or artillery shells, will the effect be more serious? And we don’t seem to go beyond the framework of the Geneva Conventions.

        It turns out that the problem is not explosives, but the fact that this type of ammunition excludes targeted bombing.

        Still, you can answer me, otherwise you began to ignore the campaign as a professor))), when and where did the barrel bombs be banned?
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  • Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 25 October 2015 18: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Eugene30
    Clear. I would say they live longer only theoretically

    Theoretically, we all live up to 100, but in practice, life expectancy in Palestine is only 5 years shorter than in Israel, for which it is 5 years longer than in Russia
    Quote: Eugene30
    In practice, their lives may end before they begin, from Israeli aggression, from indiscriminate bombing, from violent separation of families, from seizure of land and arbitrary chasing and killing of Palestinian residents by Israeli settlers

    Apparently, it does not end.
    Quote: Eugene30
    then all the facts recorded by international organizations, and it happens all the time.

    That's life expectancy - recorded by international organizations
    Quote: Eugene30
    You can minus as much as you want, and it boasts a lifespan, if the lives of others are nothing for you.

    This is your own life for nothing, if crying for the Palestinians, you do not understand one thing - in fact, their standard of living is higher than Russian. hi

    Are you all so quirky Jews? That one, that the second insists on the standard of living in Palestine in comparison with Russia. And proving this, that Israel does not carry out the systematic expulsion of Palestinians from their land, about the permanent bombing and other terror.
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 October 2015 19: 45 New
      -3
      Quote: Eugene30
      Are you all so quirky Jews?

      No, we just champed it for more than a dozen years, now here you are, wellcome to our club.
      Quote: Eugene30
      And proving this, that Israel does not carry out the systematic expulsion of Palestinians from their land, about the permanent bombing and other terror.

      Well, it’s someone who has terror, since all vital signs - from child mortality to life expectancy in Palestine are higher than in Russia (and Syria is the same) hi
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 25 October 2015 19: 47 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Well, it’s someone who has terror, since all vital signs - from child mortality to life expectancy in Palestine are higher than in Russia (and Syria is the same)

        I guess who provided this ... wink laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 25 October 2015 20: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: Alex28
          I guess who provided this ..

          The standard of living in Palestine. Of course, Russia, she does not get used to at her own expense - to improve the lives of others (you wanted to say this)?
      2. Your friend
        Your friend 25 October 2015 19: 55 New
        +2
        So you did not answer me:
        Is it not difficult to provide evidence of the standard of living in Russia and in Palestine?
        And on this phrase of yours, “If out of 100t of Russian citizens, you prefer to return to Russia about 3%” - 3% off?

        Child mortality Palestine 22,93, Russia 10,7. Again, become like a professor. Not good.
        In Syria for 2010 14,9.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%

        D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8E_%D0%BC%D0%BB

        %D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%

        D1%80%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8
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          1. Your friend
            Your friend 25 October 2015 20: 30 New
            0
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_уровню_младенческой_смертности
            Sorry)
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 25 October 2015 20: 36 New
              0
              Quote: Your friend
              .wikipedia

              That is enough.
  • zinander
    zinander 25 October 2015 20: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Your friend
    You professor? Mortality in Israel is greater than in Palistine. Byad, professor, ahahahahaha .....

    No, young man. In Israel, life expectancy is 82.27 years, which is more than 10 years more than in Russia.

    Farewell hi
    That's why you dumped there? Want to live longer? laughing
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 October 2015 20: 35 New
      -3
      Quote: Iskander
      That's why you dumped there? Want to live longer?

      On the contrary. Here the standard of living is higher and the duration is longer because I and people like me dumped here and created a flowering garden here.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 27 October 2015 00: 19 New
        0
        You will need a couple of revolutions, several wars, collectivization, privatization, then you will tryndet about the standard of living and its duration. And if we didn’t let you, you wouldn’t be there. It’s not rude in my rules, but I can’t! If you want to know my opinion about Israel, it is complicated. One thing is clear - you have plenty of fascism, although you don’t call it that, and it’s almost no better than Palestinians. It’s a pity for ordinary people both here and there! But pride is a great sin if the word sin means something to you. God understands everything, but do you understand Him?
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 27 October 2015 09: 09 New
          +4
          And what kind of interesting people are those who have arranged all this bugging for us? If you bring the microscope closer, almost all the Jews will turn out to be. Nothing bad about the Jews ... they just know how. Young people. And the revolution, and privatization, and many more (relatively peaceful) ways of taking money from the population. I have many Jewish acquaintances, excellent doctors, engineers, teachers ... maybe it’s just that the dough flows are not the same, but they still haven’t shown their character. It’s stupid to be offended by people who know how to get out of such a virtuoso in this life ... you just have to always remember this.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 27 October 2015 08: 59 New
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        A blooming garden, heaven or hell ... everyone has his own idea. I, as I don’t watch the report from Israel, have sand and stones ... How not to ennoble the desert anyway. But here, as they say to an amateur, I love pristine nature. Well, it’s even funny to talk about the difference in the size of states. You can lay out spitting on the sea with Persian rugs and roses in three layers. And it’s more difficult to improve a large territory. There have recently been attempts to separate, reduce its territory and heal in Europe .. The result is sad request
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  • Whowhy
    Whowhy 26 October 2015 01: 00 New
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    Quote: Alex28
    Oh, this crap works in the west. Are people really stupefied at the end?

    I was in the USA when I was studying in 1995. On the one hand, I really liked the people - for the most part they were friendly, polite, tactful. On the other hand, I got the impression that they generally care about everything except family and work - there’s absolutely nothing to talk about. It seems to me that they don’t watch and listen to it all, but flip it from channel to channel ...
  • Horn
    Horn 26 October 2015 06: 35 New
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    It would be much more efficient to fill barrels with pork dung. Non-lethal Ammunition
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 October 2015 07: 02 New
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      Quote: Horn
      It would be much more efficient to fill barrels with pork dung. Non-lethal Ammunition

      good
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 27 October 2015 10: 59 New
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        And why are you happy, ammunition with such a filling can be used on both sides of the border.
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  • rusik090
    rusik090 26 October 2015 14: 31 New
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    Quote: Taygerus
    As usual, the Americans are looking for excuses and far-fetched accusations, there isn’t enough brains to see, progressive degradation is on the face, especially when you consider that some of them take intelligence to social services. networks fool

    They are always trying, you see, they will come up with some terrible lie that their electorate will believe in, and will sell the solution they need ... this is war, there are no rules, there is no honor, there is no conscience.
  • Old old
    Old old 26 October 2015 23: 15 New
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    "Barrel - bomb" will explode near Geyropa when oil up to $ 100-150 matures!
  • Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 26 October 2015 23: 23 New
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    That srach is then bred. I always respected the interlocutors from Israel on this site, but in my opinion, this time they specifically suffered! What hooked you, professor and atalef, so much that you went down to the banal transitions to comparing nationalities and actually insulting Russia and Russians, forgetting to put punctuation marks at the same time? And do not convince me that due to the fact that you dumped, the standard of living has worsened here)
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 27 October 2015 09: 16 New
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      It is unintentionally wink It escaped. Then, it makes sense, it calms down and everything becomes much thinner. These are smart guys.
    2. Your friend
      Your friend 27 October 2015 10: 42 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr2012
      That srach is then bred. I always respected the interlocutors from Israel on this site, but in my opinion, this time they specifically suffered! What hooked you, professor and atalef, so much that you went down to the banal transitions to comparing nationalities and actually insulting Russia and Russians, forgetting to put punctuation marks at the same time? And do not convince me that due to the fact that you dumped, the standard of living has worsened here)

      Because they began to lie a lot, and when they were poked into their lies here, the real essence of these gentlemen was revealed.
    3. dzeredzavkomimu
      dzeredzavkomimu 27 October 2015 18: 49 New
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      I don’t understand what you all argue with moishes here? They are the same special as those who are in the Netherlands, there is no aircraft industry, there is no auto industry, but there is no nichrome, Jews serve women, bl. and all the same there are specialists, I understand with the Germans, French or Japanese with amers, they at least let out their own, but why did they sign up for it? After the American alterations?
  • Zefr
    Zefr 27 October 2015 00: 17 New
    +1
    Strange, but when the KAB-500 falls on the heads of unsuspecting people, are they somehow satisfied? Bombs from the barrel will obviously be weaker. What is the noise?
  • Old old
    Old old 27 October 2015 00: 22 New
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    Quote: atalef
    But what about the bombs in the buses - not bombs anymore?

    Bombs on the bus explode from a blow to the ground? You do not find that they (bombs) are a fundamentally different way to activate (detonate)?
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  • lurk
    lurk 27 October 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    professor (6) IL October 25, 2015 20:28 ↑
    Quote: Barkhan
    If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
    1. Do not squeeze.
    2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 27 October 2015 10: 44 New
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      Quote: lurk
      professor (6) IL October 25, 2015 20:28 ↑
      Quote: Barkhan
      If, that and we will accept you, when pressed to the sea ...
      1. Do not squeeze.
      2. Not a foot to you. I’m not stepping on a rake twice.

      Well, thank God.)))
  • zenith
    zenith 27 October 2015 09: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Agreed. hi

    ohhhh already shaved
  • galakt
    galakt 27 October 2015 13: 33 New
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    Americans do not invent anything, they describe and classify to others what they themselves use everywhere. It’s just that they have established it in industrial production and put it on stream, and it is simply not possible for the same Syrians to organize the production of means of mass destruction of the enemy so clearly. It was a chemical weapon as opposed to a Jewish atomic bomb, but it was taken away. Jews waved their bombs and pulled territory from Syria. And then the Syrians began to run out of moderate bombs, and they began to sculpt them from everything that came to hand. But what if there are no moderate bombs, then everything, Khan, to surrender at the mercy of the enemy?
    The Armenian radio is asked the question: What is stronger than vodka or the atomic bomb? Answers AR: Yes, nevermind, if only knocked down.
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  • Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 27 October 2015 18: 57 New
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    Quote: Tatiana

    In the theory of warfare, such “stuffing” is called a mental attack on the information front.

    Actually, a psychic attack is in the film “Kibalchish Boy”, when the bourgeoisie attack the formation under the gramophone.
    And if we talk about the adopted terminology, then we are fighting an information struggle, and the adversaries - an information war