Battle Questionnaire-3: AEC

Battle Questionnaire-3: AECSeparate among all systems is AECS. This rare system was studied by intelligence fighters who were supposed to engage in the capture of enemy rocket launchers and counter-actions in the event that our important objects were captured by enemy special forces. It seems that there is no need to explain that the extreme importance of the task determined the level of training, which can be compared without exaggeration with the level of training of the astronauts. The trainer and tireless hand-to-hand explorer Vladimir Alekseevich Sklizkov told about this system.

General issues:

1. Characteristic style (school, direction) in one sentence

- A comprehensive, theoretically comprehensive system of combat training for reconnaissance of rocket forces (guarding nuclear missile launchers and capturing enemy installations), including actions in all possible situations (hand-to-hand combat in tunnels, in water, on water, under water, etc.)

2. Style motto (schools, directions)

- Survive - for the quest.
The fighter had no right to die, since in this way he let down his comrades (his group, as a rule, the top five) - without him they could not complete the task.

3. The origins (beginning) of the direction (when and who founded)

- No data.

4. The ultimate goal of the class (the ideal to which the student is going), the physical and mental qualities that he must acquire

- A person for whom there are no unexpected and unconventional situations, able to act in any situation, strike from any position.

5. Teaching methods

- The teacher (who was the last WWII intelligence officer) showed and explained the movements, the soldiers tried to repeat them. Their mistakes were corrected by all means. In general, the technique was a game - it was very difficult physically (although the level of load increased gradually), but psychologically it was easy - they performed interesting tasks in a cohesive team.
Ideological and psychological pumping, motivation - “war can start in an hour, you should always be ready” (the service was held in the GDR, a few kilometers from the border with the Federal Republic of Germany). For the same reason, the trainings were not to wear, though, they trained for many hours a day. For the year, the fighters mastered the RB system at a level sufficient to act against a professionally trained opponent.
No one was forced to do. Moreover, if a fighter could not comprehend this non-standard system (even if he wanted to), he was expelled from the group.

6. Used equipment (shock, wrestling, zalomnaya, etc.)

- "Gnarled", seemingly shapeless (there are no characteristic methods or blows). In appearance, the technique is similar to the usual, but internally performed differently.
We learned to work on the affected areas on the basis of the principle “To beat accurately, quickly, rigidly, along the shortest path” - then the fighter had to think for himself how to apply this principle.
It was necessary to be able to beat from any position. It was an exercise to strike a hand, hanging on a rope (holding it with the other hand).
There are special exercises so that the movement does not become a template, does not reach the level of automatism. For example, unlike boxing, there are no stereotypical bundles in this system. By striking several blows in a row, the fighter takes aim each time, evaluates changes in the situation (the enemy closed, dodged, etc.) and only then does the next strike. In fact, it is a continuous, continuous action on the situation. The speed of the bundle is achieved through special training.
A strike (unlike other martial arts or martial arts) cannot exist on its own. It is applied only in a certain (convenient) situation. That is, a fighter cannot show a specific blow at the request. He can strike if there is a comfortable situation (or presenting a situation in the mind) - and the blows will always be different, as the situations (body position, movement) will be different. Moreover, they will be different for each person, as all are individual.
In fact, the fighters were trained, rather, physically and psychologically, accustomed to non-standard situations and instilling a certain worldview (“survive”), and already in the process of training they themselves learned to beat, fight, etc. Of course, there were some basic techniques and strikes.
There are punches, kicks. Punches for the most part are done with the fist upright. The blow is not from the pelvis or leg, but from the shoulder and the body.
Kicks “stepper” kicks - that is, a fighter kicks a kick as if making a high pitch. For example, stomping a top kick on the knee. Wrestling and zalomnaya technique is used in rare cases, as an auxiliary, as it does not help against the group.
There are hard blocks. In general, all strokes and blocks are hard and narrow. This is explained by the fact that a fight, for example, may be in a trench, where there is no place to swing and maneuver, and behind the back of a fighter there may be a heavy duffel bag. From this it is necessary to proceed.
Another parameter is that the system is essentially fencing, but not in the sense that a hand strike is applied in the same way as a knife strike, but in fact it works with sectors, etc.

7. Direction tactics

- Diverse. No template too. In general, you need to neutralize the enemy as quickly as possible. Saving forces is not achieved due to “relaxation” or “softness”, but vice versa due to maximum rigidity. There is no second chance. Each hit should bring the maximum (necessary) result.
Used a lot of fraudulent movements.

8. The presence of training battles (sparring). In what form, according to what rules are held?

- There were full-contact competitions with German rangers (GDR), in which the fighters always won. The last course was trained on this system in 1975.

9. Physical training (general and special) - including work with weights, free weights, your weight

- Also non-standard, but conventional exercises such as push-ups, pull-ups, and squats were widely used. Exercises should teach a fighter to unexpected, unconventional situations and situations - physically and psychologically. Exercises with a log, rope. For example, sparring on a log, one end of which is suspended on a rope.
Or on the development of instant internal mobilization - the fighter should hang high on the rope on one hand. Letting go of your hand - you fall, you break. Relax - slide down, sderesh skin from hands.
There is a stretch in the body and limbs. There must be a tonic tension in the stomach for the connection between the "top and bottom". Much attention was paid to the development of coordination.
Exercises only at the beginning were held in the gym. Next in nature.
When training, the principle was observed - “it is difficult to learn, it is easy to fight”. Training should have been harder than in combat. Everything had to be familiar to the fighter, at least at a basic level. And for the specific situation of the fighters would be prepared additionally.

Excerpt from the physical training program (in a strong reduction):

Special Physical Training
1. Work on the relief:
a. walking, running (up, down, traverse),
b. jumps
c. creeping (up, down, traverse)
d. flying object slopes
2. training in the "corridor", all options
Types of reliefs:
a. inclined planes
b. grass, sand, stones,
c. forest shrub
d. swamp, tall grass,
e. snow, ice
Work at different times of the day, in different weather conditions.
3. Overcoming obstacles:
3.1) walls, apertures, corridors, stairs (different), run up the stairs
3.2) wells, pits, trenches (including water), ditches, overcoming constrained passages, manholes, pipes
3.3) fire, smoke, gas
3.4) water obstacles, coming out of the water to a high board, passage under water, overcoming by swimming
3.5) walking on narrow support structures:
a. log,
b. rope,
c. cut wall.
Insurance methods
3.6) walking on a swinging footing:
d. timber,
e. rope (in a straight line, on an inclined)
3.7) pendulum - rope
3.8) stilts:
f. walking,
g. penetration into window openings
h. water barriers
3.9) overcoming obstacles with a pole:
i. with an emphasis on the butt,
j. backed by a knot,
k. a pole from a pipe, tying trees for making a pole
3.10) loading, unloading in a moving car:
l. without help,
m. via
3.11) silent walking
3.12) walking on the roofs
3.13) bridging space:
n. with somersaults
o. with fixation
p. with a grip
3.14) ascent, descent from the balcony. Insurance
3.15) overcoming fences:
q. wooden,
r. forged
s. decking
3.16) barbed wire
3.17) overcoming ice as obstacles
3.18) jumping down the inner corner of the building into the opposite window apertures
3.19) climbing trees, poles (straight, inclined)
3.20) jumping over obstacles:
t. trench
u. fences,
v. walls,
w. heaps of bricks.
3.21) obstacle course
4. Fixing on transport
5. Avoiding moving vehicles or large items (logs, barrels, etc.):
a. bounce,
b. jump - somersault
c. with tangential rotation,
d. with fixing on transport
6. Avoiding flying objects:
a. sticks
b. the stones
7. Catching items:
a. sticks
b. tool,
c. a rock,
d. clothes, bags, bags,
e. the end of the rope
f. end of the pole
g. pendulum,
h. box.
8. Transportation of cargo affected:
a. up down,
b. reliefs
c. water rafting (rafts).
All alone and in a group.

10. Work against the group

- Work both against the group and in the group (usually in the top five) is a distinctive feature of the AECS. The worked five can easily work against a larger crowd in different tactical schemes. For example, circling.

11. Work against weapons/with weapon

- A very developed section of work with a gun. And besides this (with other weapons), since hand-to-hand combat is primarily a work with weapons.
It was also developed throwing cold arms (knives).

12. Work on the ground (in the stalls)

- Basically, finishing off from the rack and protection from them, as well as working out the fastest way out of the orchestra.

13. Work in non-standard conditions, from non-standard opponents (in water, in darkness, confined space, from a dog, etc.)

- Almost all the training was non-standard, as indicated above. In preparation, given the extreme importance of the group (hardly anything can compare with the importance of the protection and seizure of nuclear weapons) sought to prepare for virtually everything. Even to such difficult imaginable situations, like a fight in free flight (falling off a cliff), a fight, having caught hands overboard of a car at full speed and other moments.
The preparation also included the so-called "rifle pendulum", in which the fighter stands sideways to the enemy, thus reducing the area of ​​destruction, and leads to a shootout. But this is an extreme measure. Usually they tried to interact with the enemy, understanding the psychology of the shooter.

14. Psychological training

- No fighting trances, only the work of a clear mind. Since the reflexes and instincts of man are known, they can be calculated, and make the opponent react as it should. Moreover, in an extreme situation, a person, starting to work on instincts (with consciousness disabled due to stress), becomes a “machine”, and a fighter prepared by this system can neutralize it.
A fighter should take everything as a dangerous game, all the conditions in which he is familiar. His task is to beat the enemy. No rage, or aggression. Game mood prepared by a professional.

15. Other effects from occupations (improving, developing and etc.)

- One of the skills given was what is now called "social engineering" - a person trained in the system could pass without a pass to any place, even enter a secret object.
At the same time, honest people were selected for the group, who would not use their knowledge for personal gain (moreover, provocations were made to check).

16. Unique features of the direction (style, school)

- Unlike systems based on natural reflexes and movements (for example, a start-reflex, when a person is in danger, with a loud sound of an explosion, etc., he automatically crouches, covering his head with his hands), this system is “anti-natural”, it is built on the suppression of instincts. She is "mathematical". Everything is logical and systemic in it.
On the other hand, in this system, everything is non-standard. For example, in all systems of hand-to-hand combat they work with time - but usually the fighters try to be faster than the enemy. Here they do the opposite - they try to slow down the enemy at the expense of psychology, tricks, techniques, and, therefore, they work faster than him.
Over time, they work with all methods, they try to be faster (due to technology and tactics).

17. Application in life (a case of self-defense, when the student was able to protect himself in this direction).

- There are many cases of use, in the most difficult conditions, all in favor of our intelligence officers.
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  1. Hleb 22 October 2015 07: 13 New
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    One could just lay out the work of Vladimir Sklizkov:

    "What is a survival system in extreme situations"
    "Technique without techniques or clumsy means in Russian"
    "Russian hand-to-hand combat is alive"
    "AECS Training Program"

    rather than rewrite his thoughts changing formulations
  2. cobalt 22 October 2015 07: 35 New
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    Thanks to the author of the article for the first time I heard about this training system, it is very interesting.
  3. Maksus 22 October 2015 11: 28 New
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    Another know-how? Why come up with something when there is a quite normal working combat sambo and OFP?
  4. Volga Cossack 22 October 2015 11: 56 New
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    informative . and I have not heard. Thank you for the article.
  5. teacher 22 October 2015 13: 48 New
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    And the Strategic Missile Forces are not up to date on the super-duper protection system. The next adherents of the next "classified techniques." In the firebox.
    1. Pilat2009 22 October 2015 20: 30 New
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      Quote: hoca
      And the Strategic Missile Forces are not up to date on the super-duper protection system. The next adherents of the next "classified techniques." In the firebox.

      They told you that you last studied in 1975, apparently the knowledge carrier has retired
      1. teacher 22 October 2015 20: 43 New
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        you can see such knowledge was necessary that with the departure of the ninja were thrown into the trash
  6. Astrey 22 October 2015 14: 15 New
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    Thank you Michael for the article. Very informative, and in our time, useful material. good

    Thanks Gleb, your sources will come in handy anyway, at least to me. drinks
  7. By001261 22 October 2015 14: 44 New
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    it seems to me and now there is a (nuclear) special forces unit there was an article.
  8. Noncombatant 22 October 2015 15: 09 New
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    The style of the smoked monkey.
  9. Maksus 22 October 2015 17: 24 New
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    Some kind of fabulous description, no striking technique, no wrestling, but can fight in water. And why didn’t they learn to shoot them for many hours a day? War is won not by ninjas, but by soldiers.
  10. Vivat 22 October 2015 18: 49 New
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    Thank you for the article! I read it with interest.
  11. gladcu2 22 October 2015 20: 48 New
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    Some kind of fiction.

    But it’s hard to believe in a scientific breakthrough.

    Well, if there is a combat hopak, then why not be a combat melee nuclear shield.

    God forgive me for skepticism. How many people have so many opinions.
  12. SIT
    SIT 22 October 2015 21: 02 New
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    I have not seen this system in practice, but what the author writes is somehow very doubtful. The system is based on the suppression of instincts and is unnatural, as the author writes. But this is utopia. Instincts are embedded in a person at such a deep level that to suppress them is a huge energy cost, after which nothing else will remain. Isn't it easier to impose technique on instinct? For example, the author writes that hard blocks were mainly used. Why would an unarmed person rigidly block a side blow with a butt to the head? To find out what is stronger butt or bone? At the same time, obeying the instinct, this butt is relatively softly run in and flies over the top, opening to attack its owner who has failed by inertia. The idea is that every blow of the enemy should fall into the void and the defensive movement should flow without a break into the attacking IMHO is much more promising.
    1. Hleb 23 October 2015 04: 56 New
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      the fact of the matter is that the author writes so. Sklizkov himself briefly explains what SV is, and there is no particular categorization. instincts are not suppressed, just CB eliminates boilerplate actions:

      A fighter at every moment of time decides which movement to use in accordance with the current situation. Such work requires a special training of consciousness and, first of all, the attention of a fighter. What in the survival system is achieved by special methods.
      There are rules, but not one of them programs the behavior of a fighter.
      This is a relatively simple system according to the technique used, complex in terms of skills and very complex from a methodological point of view

      but the fact that I did not see her is not surprising. similarly)
  13. Bayun 23 October 2015 02: 44 New
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    How many cameramen gave their lives to remove the “real” melee during the years of the Second World War, trying to film how the “puny” accountants and teachers sometimes tore the Adam's apple to trained fighters. As far as I heard, the specialists came to the conclusion that it was impossible to TEACH it.
  14. Raider 23 October 2015 14: 26 New
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    Pure opinion of course. I have never heard that there were special forces in the Strategic Missile Forces, if there is such a kind of training, then it is listed in the Red Book, there are definitely no tasks for the Strategic Missile Forces to carry out such operations.

    - A comprehensive, theoretically comprehensive system of combat training for reconnaissance of rocket forces (guarding nuclear missile launchers and capturing enemy installations), including actions in all possible situations (hand-to-hand combat in tunnels, in water, on water, under water, etc.)

    In addition to the function of transport escort and protection of their facilities. I know that there are special units for the protection of important state facilities and escort of goods in explosives, which I have the opportunity to conduct anti-sabotage operations. And the article is a lot about something big, but nothing concrete. Some kind of fog. Pages on pulled out from different books, and left a new name. What theory is nothing. IMHO of course. Good luck everyone!
  15. alleksSalut4507 25 October 2015 16: 46 New
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    Quote: SIT
    The idea is that every blow of the enemy should fall into the void and the defensive movement should flow without a break into the attacking IMHO is much more promising.

    but locked into this principle. You can beat on time, t e - get ahead of.