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Where is Ukraine flying? New brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers

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Where is Ukraine flying? New brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers



Yesterday an old friend from Kiev called. Old in every way. And by age (met in 1982 year, when he pulled us at his eight from the unpleasant situation in the Afghan mountains), and by friendship. You understand, this is not forgotten. After all the races and burning tires, he did not lose his sense of humor. Well, there has not yet been an event that would not have caused him to desire to pin up or bite.

As you already understood, my former friend is a military pilot, more precisely, a helicopter pilot. A man who is up to heels in love with the sky and ready to talk about his "turntables" for days. A romantic who never became a skeptic.

Therefore, the call from him is always connected with something in the world of helicopters. And anywhere in the world. Something new has appeared - wait for a call with criticism or odes.

It happened this time. Ukraine showed a new helicopter. And not just new, but revolutionary. One name is worth it. "LEO-1".

"The new development is able to quickly evacuate the wounded and injured to the place of providing specialized medical care, promptly deliver specialists (military, civilian) to the scene, patrol and search and rescue operations, transport up to half a ton of cargo.

The helicopter has 3 seats in the cockpit and 2 specially equipped evacuation box on the sides, made by single-rotor scheme with a tail rotor. The base platform of the Lion is the Bell-47 helicopter. The novelty was equipped with a GTD-350 engine (installed on the Mi-2) with a complete overhaul life. "

In short, both laughter and sin. This is me about our further conversation. And we both laughed. He, as a specialist, I - as a person with memory that still does not give failures.

I wonder why he is "LION"? It would be better to call this miracle Yudo "Mammoth -1". Who remembers the helicopter on which it is based? Let me remind you that everything fell into place.

So, the Bell-47 light helicopter was developed in the USA based on the outdated Bell-30 helicopter. The first flight certificate was obtained in 1946 year. Almost 70 years ago. Those who watched old American films about the Korean War could see these cars. The wounded were pulled from the battlefield, the co-pilot watered the enemies with a machine gun. In short, for the time the car is quite justified. And the cost of a penny.

As said honored (in my eyes) helicopter pilot, it is a flying aquarium. But it is not worth substituting for bullets. Especially in our time.

Is the same история and with the engine. Above in the message it is mentioned that the Soviet GTD-350 is installed on the "new" helicopter. Guys, it was designed by designer Klimkin back in 1961 year! And with the 1962 was installed on the Soviet Mi-2. In short, the heart for the American "dinosaur" Ukrainians found in the same era. More precisely, in the dump of a bygone era.

By the way, machine guns were installed on the Americans. Ukrainians also talk about this possibility. So we have an intrigue. What machine gun will be selected? Considering the "love" of everything Soviet and Russian, I think they will choose the best machine gun from the Second World War. MG 42. This is a general purpose machine gun caliber 7,92 mm Mauser, developed in Nazi Germany and adopted by the Wehrmacht in the year 1942. But this is so, for readers to bet. Who put what.

So, Ukrainian Ukroboronservis presented what he presented. October 5 2015 of the year at the Kiev airport "Chaika". Quite, I must say, the aircraft turned out. But who?

But does the reader not feel that even the release of such a "mammoth" is not characteristic of Ukraine? Well, it can not be that Kiev did everything according to the law. Especially considering that the laws there are read strictly in those parts that are necessary for the needs of the country, and more precisely, for the needs of the rulers.

And it appears correctly! Well, Ukraine would not be Ukraine if it had not stolen something and somewhere. Oh, sorry, not borrowed. Well, sort of a loan. Take, and then restructure, according to our own laws. We are there, in the Rada, what you want to take the law. If needed.

So here. A copy of the American helicopter is not licensed! What for? He is not Bell, he is "LION". Well, look like one to one. So what? The name is different. Yes, and with the engines ...

Nobody talks about their production. So where are the engines, Panov? If these lions let out, then the motors should be. And this is doubtful. More precisely, it is doubtful that in Ukraine after a quarter of a century of independence they remain at least in warehouses. They can also be sold! And, therefore, they have been sold for a long time. Though for scrap, but for real money.

It seems to me that the engines of the Panamanians of Ukraine will “drive” the Polish pans. Why? Yes, everything is simple. In the early 60s, Poland produced licensed engines of this particular brand. And then even modernized them. And, unlike Ukraine, she kept some of them in her warehouses. And then everything is clear. In the same way as Soviet armored vehicles and Tanks, engines migrated to Ukraine.

I do not want to mock Ukraine at all. There is no need. They can do it quite professionally. I just showed the level of degradation of the country, which once had a great school of aircraft designers, excellent aircraft factories and intelligent workers, technicians and engineers in the industry.

By the way, the Ukrainian government is developing documents on the sale of the shares of the Antonov concern to foreigners. In addition to Russian, of course. But about this, if something is still decided, later. In the meantime, fear the new "Lion" all over Russia!
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  1. Hubun
    Hubun 8 October 2015 06: 06
    +6
    Funny attempts, right to the bitterness, though
    1. sagitta25
      sagitta25 8 October 2015 10: 16
      49 th
      Where you need to start. They are already producing AK1-3. Pretty good push in the CIS countries.
      At the beginning of the war, they had nothing in mass production from 4 to 4 wheeled vehicles. And now there are many new products.
      If there is a big need, they will develop and produce new helicopters. Look at the army of Poland and Turkey, there was also anarchy and nothing was produced. And now they produce a wide range of weapons. It will also be here. Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia. Who is younger than Ukraine knows how to produce engines and weapons for helicopters, only the fuselage is needed. They may first start producing something under license, and then they will push their models.
      1. yushch
        yushch 8 October 2015 10: 53
        18
        Quote: sagitta25
        Where you need to start. They are already producing AK1-3. Pretty good push in the CIS countries.
        At the beginning of the war, they had nothing in mass production from 4 to 4 wheeled vehicles. And now there are many new products.
        If there is a big need, they will develop and produce new helicopters. Look at the army of Poland and Turkey, there was also anarchy and nothing was produced. And now they produce a wide range of weapons. It will also be here. Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia. Who is younger than Ukraine knows how to produce engines and weapons for helicopters, only the fuselage is needed. They may first start producing something under license, and then they will push their models.


        The counterweight will not work, Georgia has a population of less than 4 million people, Ukraine has a population of less than 40 million people. America will not print so much money without harming itself. Everything else is empty talk.
        1. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 8 October 2015 14: 35
          18
          Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia.
        2. Dam
          Dam 8 October 2015 19: 06
          +7
          From g-ram a candy are obtained
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      3. avia1991
        avia1991 8 October 2015 10: 55
        24
        Quote: sagitta25
        will develop and produce new helicopters. Look at the army of Poland and Turkey, there was also anarchy and nothing was produced.

        First, the production of engines and the production of helicopters are known to be "two big differences." And it costs as much money as it is not in the state treasury - and if it does appear, it will be taken away. Plus time for R&D for several years .. what are you talking about?
        And secondly, I would like to elaborate on the production of army equipment in Poland and Turkey: why are they so riveting for their military aviation?
        Yes, I forgot to ask:
        Amerikosy as a counterweight to Russia will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia
        Are you serious?! Americans from Georgia "made a candy" ?! I didn’t know! laughing
      4. saenara
        saenara 8 October 2015 17: 23
        11
        Quote: sagitta25
        Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia.


        Amerikosy, as a counterweight Рossii, сaffairsют of Ukrainian sweetie so same as they did in Georgia.

        In Georgia, they made candy in much the same way as you know Russian :-)
      5. combat192
        combat192 8 October 2015 17: 56
        +7
        Quote: sagitta25
        Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia.

        Yeah, sweetie! Fat, damn it, in chocolate!
        Three roads and facades of houses were repaired in two cities (Tiflis and Batum). The rest is poverty and devastation.
        They may first start producing something under license, and then they will push their models.

        Hardworking Japanese and no less hardworking Chinese took 25 years to do this. But Ukrainians are only killing their own aircraft factory.
      6. avkeys
        avkeys 9 October 2015 01: 42
        +1
        So if you start with this, then how many decades does it take to catch up with Georgia for chocolate? Maybe this is where you finish right away. Something that reminds me of the youth magazine Modelist-Constructor, remember? But it’s youth, and there came across more serious models, and then a whole candy power!
      7. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 9 October 2015 20: 37
        +1
        Is Russia pointedly with a small letter? Well, I went to fucking from here, asshole!
      8. Fox_1959
        Fox_1959 12 October 2015 12: 51
        +1
        Amerikosy, as a counterweight to Russia, will create candy from Ukraine as they did in Georgia.


        Sorry, dear, but if you add two kilograms of shit to two kilograms of shit, you will end up with four
        kilogram of shit.
      9. crumb
        crumb 13 October 2015 09: 56
        0
        Who is husband Ukraine is how? belay
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 October 2015 12: 17
      +4
      The new brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers

      It's still "cool"! lol Prior to that, they converted agricultural aviation into "the latest attack vehicles" laughing
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 9 October 2015 18: 09
        +1
        And what does this device not like? It looks almost like a real one. Flies again. In winter, Ukrainians are warm, as if they will withstand an hour in this aquarium. Modern Ukraine is a backward agrarian country. And here is an apparatus that can be assembled in a sharash-montage. They have a motor factory. Skis will be bought in sporting goods, parts for the fuselage in MerlenLeroy or Ikea, a cabin in a pet store, a remote control in the children's world (or is it without a remote control?) And go to battle! Innovative Vesch - a supermini drone with a pilot. But the wounded, of course, will not agree to such a transport - they still have a chance to survive.
        1. tso1973
          tso1973 12 October 2015 09: 05
          0
          I agree! A normal helicopter, inexpensive to maintain, we would like to fly and jump from it on weekends, in any case, better than a motorcycle scratch!)))))
        2. Aqela
          Aqela 15 October 2015 09: 27
          0
          laughing laughing laughing good Adequately! drinks yes
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 October 2015 12: 26
      0
      The new brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers

      It's still "cool"! lol Prior to that, they converted agricultural aviation into "the latest attack vehicles" laughing
  2. svp67
    svp67 8 October 2015 06: 28
    +3
    Soon the same "Iroquois" will appear ...
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 8 October 2015 07: 35
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      Soon the same "Iroquois" will appear ...

      With "Iroquois" it is more difficult, they have to be taken somewhere. And not nearby, except in Georgia.
      By the way, this Lev-1, that is, Bell-47, produced in 1964, was resold several times until it settled in the Ruin. To talk about some kind of "production" is simply ridiculous - they took an old trough and equipped it with the same old, but gas-turbine engine (his native one, naturally, is a piston engine). All. A single copy, the next one will appear when one more junk is delivered to a used one and they can find another engine for it.
    2. avt
      avt 8 October 2015 08: 33
      15
      Quote: svp67
      Soon the same "Iroquois" will appear ...

      Quote: inkass_98
      With "Iroquois" it is more difficult, you have to take them somewhere

      Benya at the beginning of the ATO bought for state money or slammed the old ones for himself in Dnepropetrovsk before they bought "Saxons". I disagree with the author on one thing --- "I wonder why he is" LEV "? It would be more correct to call it a miracle-yudo "Mammoth -1". "----- No. It would be more correct to call it "Fossilized mammoth shit -1" wassat
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 October 2015 12: 19
        +1
        The new brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers

        It's still "cool"! lol Prior to that, they converted agricultural aviation into "the latest attack vehicles" laughing
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 9 October 2015 22: 32
        0
        avt

        A LION. Read back from English BELL
  3. domokl
    domokl 8 October 2015 06: 33
    +5
    The Iroquois certainly won’t appear .. They don’t sell such kits in the designers department of the Children's American World ... But Bella sells them. I bought them, I put them together on the lawn and fly laughing
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 8 October 2015 07: 29
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Bought, assembled a house on the lawn and

      and ride on the lawn. yes
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 8 October 2015 10: 59
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        and ride on the lawn

        That's how it will be more accurate! good
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    3. gjv
      gjv 8 October 2015 11: 20
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      But the Bells are selling. I bought it, collected houses on the lawn and fly

      Yes, a normal helicopter for some applications. It was mass produced and many more where it flies. Like the Mi-2. And such engines can be found, though after the CWR at the ARZ. However, as for mass production, it’s rather like this:
      Quote: inkass_98
      they took the old trough and equipped it with the same old, but gas turbine engine (his native piston, of course). All. A single instance, the next will appear when another junk is delivered to used

      And application. The wounded on a stretcher is stuffed into the tail frame behind the cabin, under the exhaust of the engine, then covered with some kind of film and flew. I wonder how flies with such a design under the tail? And what is the wounded?

      1. ILDM1986
        ILDM1986 8 October 2015 16: 45
        +2
        Quote: gjv

        And application. The wounded on a stretcher is stuffed into the tail frame behind the cabin, under the exhaust of the engine, then covered with some kind of film and flew. I wonder how flies with such a design under the tail? And what is the wounded?

        this miracle can be applied in warm countries, but even in Ukraine there is a risk of not bringing a wounded man in winter - it is frostbite banal.
        1. Rader
          Rader 8 October 2015 20: 51
          +4
          And what is the wounded?

          Well, if the wounded person is unconscious, then everything is relatively normal, but if he passes into himself, he may have died of a heart attack crying wassat
          a miracle can be used in warm countries, but even in Ukraine there is a risk of not bringing a wounded man in winter - it’s frostbite.

          And such trifles do not bother anyone in Ukraine now tongue wink
        2. samoletil18
          samoletil18 9 October 2015 09: 14
          +1
          It does not freeze, but freezes for the subsequent needs of American transplantologists
      2. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 9 October 2015 00: 15
        +3
        remembered the humorous series "M * A * S * H" 1968
        usa, korean war and a bunch of such helicopters
        who have not seen recommend, an order of magnitude better than today's hollywood
      3. your1970
        your1970 12 October 2015 11: 54
        0
        the film has two purposes at once, and both are very important: 1) closes the wounded man from the exhaust, 2) closes the citizens on the ground from bryazh ..ovna when the wounded learns as he is flying
  4. serafim60
    serafim60 8 October 2015 06: 44
    +7
    Nothing good comes of them except digging the black sea.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 8 October 2015 07: 51
      +2
      Oh, by the way, this particular machine gun will be installed on the "new" machine! Well, I think so.
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      2. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 8 October 2015 17: 19
        +2
        No no thispetrified go .. uh .. to a lion, only the "maxim" machine gun will do wassat
  5. brr1
    brr1 8 October 2015 07: 24
    +8
    I immediately remembered the series MES Hospital. They dragged on the same wounded pen.do.s.o. in 50-53 years
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 8 October 2015 07: 32
      10
      In, also the first thing that came to mind was MES smile
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 October 2015 09: 52
        +5
        Quote: Landwarrior
        In, also the first thing that came to mind was MES

        Almost it! Here it is, the mighty "Lion-1"
        1. 0255
          0255 8 October 2015 11: 22
          +6
          So m * Skalsky Mi-8 and Mi-24 among Ukrainians ended even under Strelkov. Yes, and the great Ukrainian should be zapadlo fly in a helicopter cotton-wool occupation development wassat



          Obama does not give "Apaches", you have to modernize the old stuff. This Bell-47 was received from Canada, probably the local Ukrainian diaspora insisted on its delivery laughing
        2. Garris199
          Garris199 8 October 2015 16: 18
          +6
          LEO is of course bust. Dragonfly is much better suited.
          1. Rader
            Rader 8 October 2015 20: 58
            +1
            Quote: Garris199
            LEO is of course bust. Dragonfly is much better suited.

            Exactly! good
            There is another question: at what temperature will the icing of the blades occur? wink
            1. domokl
              domokl 8 October 2015 21: 19
              +3
              laughing
              Quote: Rader
              at what temperature do the blades freeze?

              Fi, what a stupid thing ... The pilot will not care. He by this time will die of frost in the cabin fool
        3. Volga Cossack
          Volga Cossack 8 October 2015 22: 26
          0
          removed from the language - also MES inspired)))))
  6. Fitter65
    Fitter65 8 October 2015 07: 24
    +7
    Quote: "... The same story with the engine. The message above mentions that the" new "helicopter is equipped with a Soviet GTD-350. Guys, it was developed by a designer Klimkin back in 1961 ... "
    And sho Klimkin was a designer of engines. A designer like Klimov was.
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 8 October 2015 07: 33
      +1
      Do they have right now Klimkin, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, maybe they confused? lol
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 8 October 2015 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      Klimkin was a designer of engines

      Klimkin is a wide gallop. True, there is bad luck. He was born in Kursk, graduated from the Physicotechnical Institute in Moscow, and now here is the talking head at the Foreign Ministry Ruins. "Two convictions," share everything ", boor and pig" (C)
  7. Ilya77
    Ilya77 8 October 2015 07: 43
    14
    Yes, it’s a shame for Antonov’s design bureau. Khrushchev lured him from Novosibirsk to Kiev at one time.
    But it’s personally a shame for me that in Kiev, which was threatened to shut off the gas a hundred and five hundred times, there is heating, and in Kirov, in the center of Russia, at minus 10 at night, there’s still not heating not hot water near the city, but the prosecutor’s office and the administration can only threaten the heat supply company with a finger and that’s it ..
    1. Felix1
      Felix1 8 October 2015 08: 10
      0
      yes, sincerely sympathize.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 October 2015 09: 39
      +6
      "... the prosecutor's office and the administration can only threaten the heat supply company with a finger and that's it."
      Dear Ilya77, please contact the president in writing in the district administration, prosecutor’s office, regional prosecutor’s office, Moscow ... Believe me, if you don’t do it right away, you will EXACTLY die out. A BETTER LIST OF CITIZENS. Although you will gain the image of the enemy from the local Administration, your just cause will be brought to its logical conclusion. And your subsequent appeals will be executed in the first place so as not to cause trouble to the municipalities on their slaughtered head. Believe the municipal employee that ONLY IN THIS CASE YOU ARE WAITING FOR A POSITIVE RESULT. Sincerely. hi
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 8 October 2015 11: 04
        +1
        Quote: Black Colonel
        if you don’t do it right away, you will EXACTLY die out.

        Rather, while the papers go to the authorities, everything will turn on by itself. And then the bureaucrats will also write down the "plus sign" on their own account: "They promptly responded to the citizens' appeal!" .. The bureaucratic swamp can only be defeated by complete drainage.
        1. Michael_59
          Michael_59 8 October 2015 11: 38
          +3
          Did you vote for the drunken fight? Have you allowed the transfer of state property into private crooked hands? What are you not happy with? The state managed ineffectively, spent money on scheduled repairs, supplied heat on time - here is an effective "blower" for you, it will save both on the timing of heat supply and on the networks themselves. In our city, LLC PSK is mainly engaged in heating networks. There are few repairs, if we compare Soviet times, there are many facts of violation of the terms of restoration of excavated roads, i.e. will be dug up and thrown away, the asphalt-concrete pavement of the carriageway will not be restored in time, the administration began to screw up this PUK, trying to summon it to order, and today there is already snow, but there is no heat in the administration itself - another accident on heating systems. But the boss of the Perm network company, registered on some islands, receives, in addition to his salary, an annual bonus of one hundred thousand euros. And there is no money for the luks.
      2. Ilya77
        Ilya77 8 October 2015 18: 28
        0
        Yeah, 30 days to consider the application at the prosecutor’s office and the housing inspectorate, and then everything will be buried under the cloth. You think you haven’t done this already. Every year, after all, the same thing.
  8. Old26
    Old26 8 October 2015 08: 04
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Soon the same "Iroquois" will appear ...

    Whatever, they even appeared in America 10 years after Bell-47. And already in Ukraine .... No, the next helicopter that they will make will probably be something similar to the 12 UH-1948 Hiller. Before the "Iroquois" just "giant leap" should be. And they have not yet learned to jump so "powerfully". We need a couple more Maidans as a simulator

    Quote: Ilya77
    Yes, it’s a shame for Antonov’s design bureau. Khrushchev lured him from Novosibirsk to Kiev at one time.

    Whether Khrushchev lured him away or not is unknown. Khrushchev from 1949 was already the first secretary of the Moscow City Party Committee. There was just a tendency, not to concentrate production in one place, but to "scatter" it over the most developed republics. So Ukraine received an aircraft design bureau and aircraft factories, a tank came back from evacuation, a missile design bureau appeared ... Alas, what happened was what happened. It can't be returned
    1. spech
      spech 8 October 2015 08: 23
      0
      Soon the same "Iroquois" will appear ...

      What, you, they even appeared in America 10 years after Bell 47.

      10 years will pass and appear in the ruin hi
    2. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 8 October 2015 08: 53
      0
      Not scary. We have our own design bureaus. Design bureaus are not walls and curtains, but talented engineers. Often everything rests on 2-3 geniuses, which can be completely lured.
  9. Felix1
    Felix1 8 October 2015 08: 08
    0
    Well, of course, no one will buy them, this is the same as the "gadfly" armored car, the enterprise of the defense industry provided, but no one needs it. Everyone wants to sell something just to cut the loot on it. really funny helicopter. I think that all the same something more impressive is blinded together with Europe.
  10. iv-nord
    iv-nord 8 October 2015 08: 13
    +1
    A lion is getting ready for a little fungus ...
  11. Karagay
    Karagay 8 October 2015 08: 28
    +1
    Privatize, bankrupt and abandon
  12. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 8 October 2015 08: 49
    -1
    Making helicopters, even outdated ones, is difficult and expensive. Rather, we can talk about the overhaul of old American equipment with conservation, quite normal machines for war with partisans.
    1. Urfin
      Urfin 9 October 2015 09: 44
      0
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      quite normal cars for war with partisans.

      Yes ... about 50 years ago.
      Now the partisans have a much higher saturation with machine guns, not to mention the fact that an intermediate caliber is enough for him.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 10 October 2015 06: 03
        0
        Hang armor, more armor, more armor ... what doesn't fly anymore? Hmm, then it will often come under fire ... ANOTHER ARMOR !!! STILL!
  13. Parsec
    Parsec 8 October 2015 08: 49
    +1
    Quote: avt
    “I wonder why he is" LEO "?


    Because "Light Evacuation Vertolit". Ukrainians honestly wrote the abbreviation LEO, but they did not think of how it would look or sound.

    As a result, everyone laughs.
    1. your1970
      your1970 12 October 2015 12: 00
      0
      It would be better if they shortened in Russian - "LEV-1"? The same fun ...
  14. evil partisan
    evil partisan 8 October 2015 09: 00
    +1
    And on Korra, hahly fought to the end like lions, with foam at the mouth they proved the breakthrough character of this development yes. True, then, under our onslaught, they faded ...
  15. Kiroant
    Kiroant 8 October 2015 09: 06
    +2
    You look, soon they will be given the Mk 1 tank to them. And the great paramogue will come.
  16. builder
    builder 8 October 2015 09: 11
    +4
    Well, Ukraine would not have been Ukraine if it hadn’t stolen something somewhere.
  17. Sargaras
    Sargaras 8 October 2015 09: 59
    0
    "Iroquois" in Ukrainian: Take a big bag and pump it with hot air lol
  18. FID
    FID 8 October 2015 10: 01
    +6
    Bell ... And try to read the opposite, discarding one extra, I think, "l" ... It turns out "lion", that's the name is legalized ...
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  20. Gray 43
    Gray 43 8 October 2015 10: 12
    +1
    Judging by the trend, Antonov will soon be producing "whatnots" by the Wright brothers))))
  21. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 8 October 2015 10: 13
    +1
    And the machine gun must be supplied with the "Maxim" system. It will turn out to be a kind of aerial "carriage".
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 8 October 2015 11: 43
      0
      Quote: VohaAhov
      And the machine gun must be supplied with the "Maxim" system. It will turn out to be a kind of aerial "carriage".

      What are you, maxim weighs a lot, or M-gach or Lewis or Browning ...
  22. kvs207
    kvs207 8 October 2015 10: 22
    +1
    Quote: brr1
    I immediately remembered the series MES Hospital.

    An excellent series and the helicopter was good for its time. Now, of course, it looks archaic.
  23. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 8 October 2015 10: 45
    0
    About engines, in particular GTD-350, Klimkin’s development was not heard.
    Developer - V. Klimov.
  24. PROXOR
    PROXOR 8 October 2015 11: 13
    0
    I want to laugh and cry !!!!! SO DECREASED !!!!
  25. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 8 October 2015 12: 20
    0
    Yes, do not forget that there is such a country
  26. Old26
    Old26 8 October 2015 12: 24
    0
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    Not scary. We have our own design bureaus. Design bureaus are not walls and curtains, but talented engineers. Often everything rests on 2-3 geniuses, which can be completely lured.

    Not only. It is also a school. But the Antonov Design Bureau nevertheless specialized in a certain segment - transport aircraft. Moreover, a different class of carrying capacity. Of course, many can be lured, but all the more or less noticeable ones cannot be lured, and there probably aren’t many of them alive.
    As a result, we have practically no new transport aircraft. We are working on the Soviet reserve. After all, even the IL-476 is still not a completely new aircraft. The glider remained from the IL-76. There are no replacements for An-12, An-26. And the AN-24 is also on the MVL. I am not even talking about the "maize" ...
  27. GSH-18
    GSH-18 8 October 2015 12: 28
    +1
    The new brainchild of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers

    It's still "cool"! lol Prior to that, they converted agricultural aviation into "the latest attack vehicles" laughing
  28. Michael - 235
    Michael - 235 8 October 2015 12: 59
    0
    The opinion of a specialist is always convincing and incontrovertible.
  29. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 8 October 2015 13: 59
    +4
    Ukraine was pretty shitty to Russia by simply outrageous dumping, especially in the sector of "regular buyers" of Soviet weapons - selling off the stocks of equipment inherited from the USSR at bargain prices. Historically, a huge amount of weapons was stored on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. This is the reserve of the first wave for the Western Group of Forces, this is the Kiev Military District, these are the reserve warehouses where everything removed from service was sent, but not sent for melting. And of course, warehouses for humanitarian aid to various cannibals "fighting capitalism." At the time of the collapse of the USSR, these warehouses in total had almost half of all aviation, tank forces and artillery of the Union. Something was saved and taken away (part of the "new" property taken out a little earlier by the ZGV). Something was promptly transferred to the Russian bases in Crimea. But the bulk remained to be plundered by the Raguli.
    All that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is now capable of is the overhaul of tanks from storage, plus a partial modernization of unnecessary armored vehicles supplied by NATO. All're coming out "handicrafts on the knee" in real life turn out to be useless rubbish, unable to overcome even elementary obstacles, such as this armored car "KrAZ Cougar" (Cougar), which was so honored by PARAShenko

    As they say feel the difference:


    The same applies to the production of tanks in Kharkov, where there are neither people nor equipment. They did not cope with the Thai contract, despite the impressive advance. Let neither themselves nor the people deceive. Tank replenishment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the future - exclusively scrapped from the rust scrap metal from the warehouses, plus junk from the master's shoulder from the "brotherly peoples".
    HZTM did not pay wages for last year. The adjacent companies are closed by dozens of enterprises due to a multiple increase in the price of gas and electricity.
    Explosives for KAZ were produced in Donetsk, gunpowder and explosives for warhead artillery were produced in the Luhansk region, and optics were made in the Crimea, FOMZ.
    Now're coming out, the military-industrial complex will finally fill up the Thai contract, from September 1, 2011, i.e. from the moment of its signing, only 10 cars have been delivered and that's it, adieu ... Only the lazy did not write about the "majestic peremogu" with the delivery of the BTR-4 to Iraq. True, the ukroids themselves, including on the site foaming at the mouth, argued that the reversal was close and these were just empty slander of Russian competitors, and the photos of the cracks on the armor were photoshop, but time put everything in its place. When testing the captured BTR-4 in Arzamas and Bronnitsy, only the lazy one did not spit and did not swear from this pepelatsa, I will not say anything about the quality of the armor, not only is it cracked, it also crumbles.
    So it remains only for small things to crap out from under the tishka, because they are not capable of anything else: you don’t understand how to grow your hands from that place ...
    Ukraine has not died yet, but it has already given the smell ...
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 8 October 2015 15: 00
      +2
      They have no production of barrels for tank guns. More precisely, there is, but purely in theory, so how can they make new tanks? laughing
      Only tyunninh wassat
  30. Gouging
    Gouging 8 October 2015 15: 25
    +2
    Velikoukry well done. They stole an antique helicopter from the Americans from the museum, and they did not even scratch themselves. wink
  31. ewgen
    ewgen 8 October 2015 16: 45
    +2
    Arthur Young furtively wiped a tear.
  32. boroda64
    boroda64 8 October 2015 18: 01
    +1
    ...
    - without going into
    / old is not old ... stolen not stolen /
    ...
    - and how on this - to fly in the WINTER .. ??????????????
  33. boris-1230
    boris-1230 8 October 2015 21: 31
    +2
    Quote: avia1991
    Americans from Georgia "made a candy" ?!

    Only the smell of this "candy" lousy! fool
  34. sagitta25
    sagitta25 8 October 2015 21: 55
    0
    Quote: combat192
    Hardworking Japanese and no less hardworking Chinese took 25 years to do this. But Ukrainians are only killing their own aircraft factory.

    And no one said what would be done in a year.
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 8 October 2015 23: 50
      0
      If you are a corvette of the 58250 series, then build one that will take years, and a more lean pepelats will be postponed for centuries ...
  35. IAlex
    IAlex 8 October 2015 23: 46
    0
    As I understand it, this is the future of the Khokhlostan Air Force, but what is the dynamic ceiling of this pepelats?
  36. Turkir
    Turkir 9 October 2015 22: 36
    0
    A rare lion will swim i.e. will reach the middle of the Dnieper.
  37. dimon patriot
    dimon patriot 11 October 2015 10: 29
    0
    Of course, not a single wounded person in consciousness would agree to transport the Wounded by this miracle (staying in the trench - more chances to survive ...) And purely visually, it is not intended for transporting the WOUNDED !!! But guys, is it really not clear ?! This is an ideal device for transporting bodies IN PARTS: fast (the goods are perishable, but the client is waiting!), Not hard, monetary, unlimited and solvent European market ... 1,5 years of experience has been accumulated, we have already written ...
  38. Andrey77
    Andrey77 11 October 2015 12: 49
    0
    MG-42? Do not tell my slippers. In Ukraine, there are no such machines that the Nazis had. They will put a single PC from the warehouses, filed a file under the helicopter.
  39. serg2108
    serg2108 13 October 2015 23: 55
    0
    read and .... laughed for a long time .....! laughing
  40. HELIX
    HELIX 18 June 2016 16: 47
    0
    Take care of your friendship - this madhouse will end anyway!