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"Omsktransmash": the victory of the workforce or the search for a new "death" of the enterprise?

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To be honest, I didn’t want to write this material. Not because it is not interesting. And because I wanted to hope for the common sense of the leadership of the plant and the industry as a whole. Especially in the light of current political events and prospects for their development.




For those who are not familiar with this company, I will give a brief excursion into history. Omsk Transport Engineering Plant, until 2014 the Design Bureau of Transport Engineering, appeared in Omsk in 1942 after evacuating from Leningrad the Leningrad State Plant No. 174 named after Voroshilov. From 1942 to 1946 factory released 6900 tanks T-34.

Since 1958, the plant has become an independent enterprise. The company, which made a significant contribution to the creation of military equipment for the Armed Forces of the USSR and Russia. I think it will be fair to say about the contribution (at least in the past, it is clear that modern samples will not be included in the list yet) of the plant. And not only to understand the size of the enterprise, but also to say thanks to the factory workers for their work.

I will not particularly paint, just list the products:

anti-aircraft self-propelled installation ZSU-57-2;
SU-122 self-propelled unit;
complex modernization of T-54 and T-55 tanks in the process of mass production;
MTU-20, MTU-72 and MTU-90 tank bridge structures;
Mining Machines IMR-1 and IMR-2;
armored recovery vehicle BREM-1;
Forwarding ferry;
T-55, T-62 and T-64 tanks;
Chassis T-64, T-72 and T-80;
complex modernization of the T-80 tank and transition to the release of the T-80U tank;
tank commander T-XNUMHUK;
set of simulators for the T-80U tank.
integrated simulator of fire training of commanders and gunners of tanks T-80U (2X62);
tank commander T-XNUMHUK;
heavy mechanized bridge TMM-6;
T-80U tank with the Arena active defense complex;
deep modernization of the T-80U tank for export (“Black Eagle”);
heavy armored personnel carrier based on the T-55 tank for export;
armored repair and recovery vehicle BREM-80U based on the T-80U tank;
modernization of the T-55 tank with a new MSA for export;
comprehensive modernization of the T-55 tank with a 125 caliber gun for export;
dynamic driving simulator with a synthesizing system of visual conditions.

However, the most famous developments of the Omsk plant now are the famous TOZs "Buratino" and "Sunlight".

What could happen at such a powerful enterprise? Where did the topic of the article come from?

And the following happened. The plant, which today belongs almost entirely to Uralvagonzavod, is on the verge of destruction. Not virtual, but quite tangible. And the reason is banal. A lack of money.

In the summer of this year, the company management announced the upcoming reduction. The reason was the lack of demand for civilian products. The case is ordinary: military production is declining, civilian increases. But there come times when product sales become problematic.

And then I will write an unexpected phrase for many. Glory to the unions! Yes, you are not mistaken. It is the trade unions, more precisely the trade union. Interregional trade union "Workers' Association". It was this trade union that defended the workers by breast. And there were as many as 454 people, almost 58% of the foundry companies.

17 July, the union announced a problem. Began to prepare documents, attract the media, lawyers. In short, it was not a PR action. It was a preparation for battle.

And they won! Won the fiercest fight. Who knows what an Italian strike is? That is what was carried out at Omsktransmash. Production workers will understand me. It is difficult to work if you have to follow ALL instructions and laws. Almost impossible.

In addition, at the meetings in the workshops, plant workers expressed their determination to go to the end. Imagine not to bow your head and leave, but stand, no matter what. Nobody had expected such enthusiasm and such determination. But it was.

September 28 plant administration issued an order to cancel the reduction. "Of their own accord" left 70 people. The rest stay and work. Salary today at the enterprise from 16 to 38 thousand rubles, depending on the duties and job profile. Became more convenient and work schedule.

On this, it seems, and could be finished. Fanfare sound, people rejoice. The enemy is defeated. Justice prevailed. Let the share of media in this story was quite small, but it was.

However, the victory may in reality be Pyrrhic. As a deathbed improvement in a hopelessly ill person. When our grandfathers defeated Germany and its allies, they did the most important thing. They turned the neck of fascism. But the victory of the work collective "Omsktransmash" alas, but the head of the root cause of the events did not turn. Financial problems remained.

The company can not pay with suppliers for work performed and delivery. Claims in arbitration courts are a continuous stream. And the claims, I must say, reasonable. In total, since the beginning of 2015, according to the data from the filing cabinet of arbitration cases, a claim was filed against the Omsk defense enterprise, the total amount of claims for which amounted to almost 24 million rubles.

It is clear that the leadership is trying to get out of the situation. Arbitration courts are coming. Lawyers work. Only here is alarming. A state enterprise, an enterprise that is a monopolist in certain types of military products, has no right to be bankrupt. Has no right to be unprofitable. And it seems to me that not only the labor collective, trade unions, the administration of the plant, but also the leaders of the country should think about it. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin repeatedly visited Omsk. And the situation should know. And he must take the financial situation under his tight control.

In the meantime, I’ll finish with a quote from SuperOmsk, more precisely, from the response to this portal from the head of Omsktransmash.

“Currently Omsktransmash JSC has concluded state contracts for the repair and supply of military products and is provided with stable, uninterrupted work on 2015-2016. The announced procurement procedures are carried out in compliance with the requirements of the legislation of the Russian Federation and will be executed by Omsktransmash JSC in accordance with the terms of the concluded contracts.
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  1. RAU Rostov
    RAU Rostov 6 October 2015 06: 38 New
    +71
    44 million ... Sell a couple of hours of the governor of Komi!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 07: 03 New
      +34
      Not only the watches of the Komi governor, he basically has nothing to do with it, but the pens with golden feathers, the assy machines of our vice-premiers, iPhones and iPhones purchased from state funds, and especially to shake the ministry with its bonuses and bonuses.
      1. ostrom
        ostrom 6 October 2015 07: 19 New
        +22
        In the famous years of the 20th century, such "comrades" would have long been lying in the ground with a hole in their head. It seems to me that way, or is Medvedev still weak as a prime minister, who should spin everything? It was remembered that as president, he also did not take place ... It is necessary to put the next clone Shoigu with Rogozin in the government.
        1. Altona
          Altona 6 October 2015 12: 22 New
          +5
          Quote: ostrom
          In the famous years of the 20th century, such "comrades" would have long been lying in the ground with a hole in their head. It seems to me that way, or is Medvedev still weak as a prime minister, who should spin everything? It was remembered that as president, he also did not take place ... It is necessary to put the next clone Shoigu with Rogozin in the government.

          --------------------
          But how much screeching was 25 years ago about "effective managers." Why now they will not pinch their eggs? Apparently they fought for that, so as not to bear responsibility for anything ...
        2. ivan3211
          ivan3211 6 October 2015 14: 17 New
          0
          Quote: ostrom
          In the famous years of the 20th century, such "comrades" would have long been lying in the ground with a hole in their head. It seems to me that way, or is Medvedev still weak as a prime minister, who should spin everything? It was remembered that as president, he also did not take place ... It is necessary to put the next clone Shoigu with Rogozin in the government.

          But Putin doesn’t know anything about this? And in general about everything that really happens in the country? Ay-yai-yay, hide information from the head of state! Outrageous.
          1. ostrom
            ostrom 6 October 2015 16: 14 New
            +1
            The Prime Minister has been appointed to this position in order to tighten the screws and equip the internal economic space, this is his direct responsibility. And what about Putin?
            1. ivan3211
              ivan3211 7 October 2015 17: 14 New
              -1
              Quote: ostrom
              The Prime Minister has been appointed to this position in order to tighten the screws and equip the internal economic space, this is his direct responsibility. And what about Putin?

              Now I only realized everything, thank you for the clarification.
          2. ivan3211
            ivan3211 8 October 2015 07: 39 New
            0
            Quote: ivan3211
            But Putin doesn’t know anything about this? And in general about everything that really happens in the country? Ay-yai-yay, hide information from the head of state! Outrageous.

            Hey. minus signers, do you specifically disagree with what? Do you think they do not hide information? So, is it ??? Either minus your argument with argumentation, or is it similar to mouse habits ...
            Or maybe the finger just swings? so you know where to put it ...
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 6 October 2015 17: 55 New
      +4
      For half a year now, there has been talk of the deliberate bankruptcy of Urolvagonzavod and its subsidiaries, probably this is the first sign. 44 million, this is not such a big figure for such a holding. Apparently there is a deliberate destruction that they could not destroy in the 90s and 2000s. Not the efficiency and speed, but sometimes the illiteracy of the government, and especially the mines, calls into question the legitimacy of the current librarian-pro-American government.
    3. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 6 October 2015 18: 19 New
      0
      Effective managers under 44mln factory want to squeeze out?
    4. Tanker55
      Tanker55 6 October 2015 20: 03 New
      0
      Do you think the governor of the Omsk Region has watches made in China?
  2. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 6 October 2015 06: 55 New
    +8
    Quote: RAU Rostov
    44 million ... Sell a couple of hours of the governor of Komi!

    And the governor himself on the count.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 October 2015 07: 29 New
      0
      Now, not 37 years old, alas (
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 6 October 2015 08: 32 New
        +9
        In the 37th, they didn’t put on a stake. They were more humane. Therefore, our liberals in vain compete with the "horrors of 37", they have done more in the 90s.
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 11: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: rotmistr60
          In the 37th, they didn’t put on a stake. They were more humane. Therefore, our liberals in vain compete with the "horrors of 37", they have done more in the 90s.

          For what the liberals did in our country, even the aspen stake is too little humane for them. And they still hang around on all kinds of talk shows and water Russia and its power with slop. When I see Gozman, Nadezhdin, Stankevich, Nekrasov and other evil spirits in Solovyov’s program, I spontaneously, like Pavlov’s dog, saliva is released and fists clench to turn blue. Although I am not a kind person, but as long as I see them, my arms are drawn to the ax, and my look is looking for a rope by itself.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 7 October 2015 12: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            Although I am not a kind person, but as long as I see them, my arms are drawn to the ax, and my look is looking for a rope by itself.

            It’s scary to imagine what you will be in anger !!! angry
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 12: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Bayonet
              Quote: Petergofsky73
              Although I am not a kind person, but as long as I see them, my arms are drawn to the ax, and my look is looking for a rope by itself.

              It’s scary to imagine what you will be in anger !!! angry

              God forbid! I’m afraid of myself sometimes. I’m joking of course.
  3. Constructor1
    Constructor1 6 October 2015 06: 56 New
    +3
    Do we have only one transmash like this? They don’t give anything new, they sit on the accompaniment of existing products or distill drawings in 3D models ((
  4. andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 6 October 2015 06: 58 New
    +4
    At the heart of everything is the policy that governs the economy about the country's defense. Therefore, I propose in this case to listen to what is in our economy:
  5. .Strannik.
    .Strannik. 6 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +4
    Let the Siberians "Armata" do. They are happy to learn it in a series. And things will go faster. And the money from the state defense order to pay off debts will appear ....
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 07: 11 New
      +16
      Without Armata there is a lot of work. It is necessary to do Pinocchio and Solntseёki. And Omsktransmash makes them alone. But there is no reason to consider the profit from these products; there is no need to hang up. Correctly Glazyev says that this government will bring Russia to a pen.
      1. .Strannik.
        .Strannik. 6 October 2015 08: 06 New
        +1
        A lot of work does not happen, also the current artificial crisis. "OmskTransmash" is big, and for "Pinocchio" there is a place and for "Almaty" there are hands ...
      2. boris117
        boris117 6 October 2015 12: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Amurets
        Without Armata there is a lot of work. It is necessary to do Pinocchio and Solntseёki. And it makes them one Omsktransmash.

        Amazingly, this liberal economism will ruin our country. Russia is at war. A working defense plant producing extremely necessary weapons is bankrupt. Medvedev has a strange government, however. How can you completely bankrupt a state military? enterprise producing extremely necessary weapons at the time of hostilities ?! Some wildness, or betrayal.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 6 October 2015 08: 39 New
      -1
      For .Strannik.

      Of course the call is good. But probably, nevertheless, the leadership of the country knows better where, what and how to do. You offer Siberians, I will offer the Far East, someone else will offer somewhere else. Or maybe you just need to think about who and how can currently. Honestly, I have always been against those who accused everyone and everything of cheering patriotism. But it turns out they are right when they read such appeals.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 6 October 2015 10: 20 New
        +3
        rotmistr60Personal for you. I worked until the last while my health allowed. We are fellow countrymen, if you take the Internet on open spaces. I will not argue about cheers-patriotism. I will say one thing, you can’t hope for our government. There, the right hand does not know what the left does. There were whiners screaming: "Chef! Everything is lost." And the main thing is Cossack; Everything passes, this too will pass. "As King Solomon said. And most importantly, believe me," Trust in God, and do not go wrong yourself. And then everything will be fine.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 7 October 2015 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Amurets
          I will say one thing, they can’t hope for our government.

          It is worth paying attention to the following line from the article: “The usual thing: military production is declining, civilian production is increasing. But there are times when the sale of products becomes problematic.” Why there were problems with the sale of (as I understand it - civilian) products? Maybe nobody just needs it, neither in quality nor in content? And what does the government have to do with it? After all, these are not the time, the government should not think what products the plant should produce besides the main (military) in order to have an income, but the leaders of the enterprise! Maybe the dog is buried there? hi
  6. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 6 October 2015 07: 36 New
    +8
    Cool, but where do the regulatory authorities actually look? Our poultry farm wanted to go bankrupt, duck Zimin (head of the rep. Khakassia) pressed them quickly into place, they still work.
    1. shonsu
      shonsu 6 October 2015 13: 35 New
      +1
      Well, of course, here the scheme is simple and clear. became the head of the enterprise, took a loan for development at the bank, bought a car, a summer house, a house by the sea, then still and still not smell fried. sold the company's real estate and movability is also possible. and that’s it! You can declare yourself bankrupt! Visas only need to be done in advance and bills transferred for the cordon. Well, enjoy life by the sea while the issue of extradition is being decided. the truth is few people think about it today, but in vain.
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  7. Letterksi
    Letterksi 6 October 2015 08: 07 New
    +1
    Do we, like the military-industrial complex, make crazy successes? T14, Su34 all that. They said it on TV!
    1. Alexey M
      Alexey M 6 October 2015 08: 48 New
      +12
      Quote: LetterKsi
      Do we, like the military-industrial complex, make crazy successes? T14, Su34 all that. They said it on TV!

      Watch less TV.
      And in the factory, the whole country was bent and used. One thief is replaced by another and that’s it. Step forward three back.
      Right now a bone has been thrown to Syria by an inhabitant of Syria, before that they told how badly they live in Ukraine. They are silent about their freaks. And the government does not want to do anything to revive the economy. Medvedev openly said in Sochi "13.04 Moscow time Regions will get the right to introduce a number of special fees for the right to trade for catering and taxi services, as well as tourist tax.
      13.02 Moscow time In the near future we will focus on cleaning up the collection of excise taxes on alcohol. Even according to the most conservative estimates, improving the collection of these excise taxes will bring the budget an additional 200 billion rubles.
      13.00 Moscow time The government will not accept the introduction of a sales tax and will preserve the basic principles of the tax system as a whole, but will allow the regions to introduce a number of their own fees. "When translating into Russian, expect higher prices, but do not wait for a normal economic policy. Although everyone understands up to a third of the cost of the product it’s an energy source, reduce the cost of fuel and lubricants and the economy will trample like a tank, so there’s no better profit in your own pocket, and pump the rest. Moreover, this is the easiest way yet to plant thieves and shoot, but who needs it?
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 6 October 2015 08: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey M
        you need to plant and shoot thieves but who needs it?

        Probably the people?
    2. ivan3211
      ivan3211 6 October 2015 14: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: LetterKsi
      Do we, like the military-industrial complex, make crazy successes? T14, Su34 all that. They said it on TV!

      So the man "pinned", and you threw him cons ...
    3. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 October 2015 16: 47 New
      0
      For starters, you would write: sarcasm mod on /..../ sarcasm mod of, otherwise there is a category of former soldiers, but military cucumbers do not like, your head doesn’t crawl into a jar)))
  8. Gray 43
    Gray 43 6 October 2015 08: 45 New
    +3
    The enterprise has a competitive product that is in demand and suddenly such a turn is the incomprehensible logic of the Russian economy, it’s good that the personnel were preserved, the plant is working, but in the current situation, the bankruptcy of a defense enterprise gives off either stupidity or betrayal, and how many plants have not been saved .. .
    1. forester
      forester 6 October 2015 11: 48 New
      +3
      There is no betrayal but the successful work of agents of influence - an agent of influence is not a traitor, he is an enemy
  9. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 6 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +3
    Yes, it is necessary to confiscate the property of all the stealing bureaucrats. Omsk is enough and still remains on the aircraft carrier
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 October 2015 16: 48 New
      0
      On an aircraft carrier and a small steamboat)
  10. Olezhek
    Olezhek 6 October 2015 08: 56 New
    +2
    They make the same T 80
    Which is somewhat better than T 72 for certain purposes.

    the total amount of claims for which amounted to almost 44 million rubles.


    Those. more than half Leman evrov?
    This is problem ? Global?

    To create such a plant from scratch and launch the production of new armored vehicles on it will be comparable to the creation of the Superjet ...

    And it will take the same time. Best case scenario.
  11. forester
    forester 6 October 2015 09: 13 New
    -5
    I’ll say stupidity, but I have to wag a pinocchio by the crowd of thieves and enemies in the building of the former state plan in Moscow
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 11: 39 New
      0
      Quote: forester
      I’ll say stupidity, but I have to wag a pinocchio by the crowd of thieves and enemies in the building of the former state plan in Moscow

      Be sure to groan. But later.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 6 October 2015 16: 49 New
        0
        To growl is not a problem, but they, ska, are tenacious creatures!
  12. Severok
    Severok 6 October 2015 09: 19 New
    -7
    Interestingly, the FSB, the prosecutor’s office, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs all knew about the situation in Komi since 2008. The governor sat and stole with his comrades. Now Sakhalin - everyone knew everything for a long time. What were you waiting for ??? Do not plant and did not give on the head !? For many strategic enterprises, let us put in. Again, everyone knows everything, but no one scratches it, does not investigate, does not conduct an audit, does not plant forfeiture ....

    What do they need Vovkin pendal? Vovka alone cannot do everything; there are too many tasks and tasks. It seems that people just need to pack up and tear some place between the buttocks so that it is not disgraceful, otherwise our bodies do not want to work on their own.
    1. dmb
      dmb 6 October 2015 10: 52 New
      -5
      And you do not admit that "Vovka" in the share. And if you do not allow, then why?
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 11: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: dmb
        And you do not admit that "Vovka" in the share. And if you do not allow, then why?

        Who is Vovka here ???
        1. dmb
          dmb 6 October 2015 14: 24 New
          +1
          I recommend to buy a textbook of the Russian language, then probably you will understand the value of quotes. But at the same time you will read the text where they are absent and will give an assessment to him.
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  13. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 6 October 2015 09: 20 New
    +1
    Guys, yes, YOU that if one of the wives of the deputy prime ministers won the tender at this enterprise, he would become a millionaire, investments flowed like a river, they only know how to cut and share, increase, set up work, this requires brains, and where to get them from the rotten there are NO government eggs.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 October 2015 09: 27 New
      +3
      Why not? Brains Do the government or rotten eggs from vice prime ministers?
  14. 2sila
    2sila 6 October 2015 10: 29 New
    +4
    How so ?! Well, every time the debt is formed, will the state cover it? And someone at the factory, from the management, will put these millions into accounts, drive on personal cars, use personal dachas? Even if they are not stolen, but just the doorway ...... it's even worse! Du..k worse than a thief.
  15. iZVerG
    iZVerG 6 October 2015 13: 08 New
    +1
    What do you want? The whole SYSTEM and all the rules were formed in the 90s. Mutual responsibility. TOTAL stripping needed. But who is capable of doing such a thing?
  16. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 6 October 2015 13: 14 New
    -2
    Quote: Alexey M
    reduce the cost of fuel and lubricants and

    They will drive a thousand or two hard workers from a refinery to the street in order to compensate for lost profits. Have you tried to use your brain? Recommend. It helps a lot, you know. Especially in cases where you need to look at the situation from different points of view.
    1. Alexey M
      Alexey M 6 October 2015 15: 02 New
      0
      Well enlighten ...
  17. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 6 October 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    Joseph Vissarionovich, get up at least for a few days, put things in order in the country, there is no one in our country. If it’s difficult, call Ivan the Terrible for help.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 October 2015 16: 51 New
      -1
      And grab Petka too!
  18. shonsu
    shonsu 6 October 2015 13: 25 New
    +3
    as much as 44 MILLION! rubles, this is such an unbearable amount. in general, my personal opinion is that such situations can only be from mediocre leadership.
  19. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 6 October 2015 14: 07 New
    +1
    enterprise ... does not have the right to be bankrupt

    normal bankruptcy involves a moratorium on payments to creditors, reorganization of production, and optimization of production. See what kind of allies such that three skins tear and so on. In principle, if civilized approach to this issue - the company will be able to overcome the crisis and continue a successful existence.
    But of course, in the context of Russian entrepreneurship, bankruptcy will mean utter ruin for the enterprise and the massive sale of scrap metal to China or Turkey.
    Business however.
  20. Governor
    Governor 6 October 2015 14: 36 New
    +4
    In Russia, the words state monopoly and inefficiency are almost synonymous. Exceptions are only oil industry and gas, at their expense and cover the losses of the rest ...
    A striking example is Russian Railways. Our politicians and managers are just criminals, they can only count money that they have not earned.
    With such a system, the best that people can hope for is the lack of GDP growth for many years. And the worst ... Guess. But maybe it’s for the better, faster people will see clearly.
  21. nekromonger
    nekromonger 6 October 2015 16: 48 New
    +2
    Omsktransmash has been purposefully draining for a long time - not to break it.
  22. pescimakhi
    pescimakhi 6 October 2015 17: 27 New
    0
    The whole government resigned! There alone Shoigu remained from conscientious!
  23. Prishliy
    Prishliy 6 October 2015 17: 39 New
    +2
    Such enterprises should be under the personal control of the head of state!
  24. onix757
    onix757 6 October 2015 20: 18 New
    0
    Sorry, but the plant is doomed. As in general, both the BAZ and the Volgograd Tractor and ZIL and many other plants. This is the policy of the main marketer since the beginning of the 2000s.
  25. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 6 October 2015 21: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: CERHJ
    on this Rogozin and fell silent. He publicly promised

    So Rogozin is a journalist by profession. Journalists only know how to work with the tongue. Well, it’s not to hand over bags, as you know. Here are books to pee (he is also a writer), and to hold press conferences, he will have a wonderful time. But with technology, here he has problems, not a techie.
  26. Wii
    Wii 6 October 2015 23: 31 New
    0
    It remains to sing the international ,,,,,,
  27. valerei
    valerei 6 October 2015 23: 41 New
    -6
    Dear Alexander Staver. I don’t know who you are or where you came from, but the question is: Why, in fact, did you put all this on this site? This site is what? The Ministry of Defense or the Government of Russia, or the department responsible for the distress of the plant? Why is it said here? What? Does everything said by lightning reach the appropriate department? Why all this scribble at the wrong place? Here are how many questions on the topic of idle talk, but for now, the site’s bloggers have fun in their comments and scratch their tongues, pure women in the mound, husking seeds.
    1. ivan3211
      ivan3211 7 October 2015 04: 55 New
      -2
      Quote: valerei
      Dear Alexander Staver. I don’t know who you are or where you came from, but the question is: Why, in fact, did you put all this on this site? This site is what? The Ministry of Defense or the Government of Russia, or the department responsible for the distress of the plant? Why is it said here? What? Does everything said by lightning reach the appropriate department? Why all this scribble at the wrong place? Here are how many questions on the topic of idle talk, but for now, the site’s bloggers have fun in their comments and scratch their tongues, pure women in the mound, husking seeds.

      Do you have any seeds there? Rashes of Maleh ...
    2. domokl
      domokl 7 October 2015 18: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: valerei
      Does everything said by lightning reach the appropriate department? Why all this scribble at the wrong place?

      The site was created in order to raise the problems associated with the country's defense and patriotic education. So, the author completely in the case posted the material here.
      But about the relevant department. This plant is not the only one. Read the comments. There are many such plants. And the problem is not only in this enterprise.
      And they read this portal in the appropriate department, believe me. This is how I write as a moderator.
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  29. boris117
    boris117 7 October 2015 22: 25 New
    0
    Quote: shonsu
    Such situations can only be from mediocre leadership.

    and conditions created in the economy + lack of strict control from above. from above