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Grouping VKS in Syria. Quantity and quality

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The last day of September was remembered by the mass Newsrelating to the armed conflict in Syria. The official authorities of this Middle East state turned to Russia for military help, President Vladimir Putin received permission from the Federation Council to use the armed forces abroad, and by evening Russian planes began to carry out combat missions in Syria. All these events occurred in less than one day.


According to official figures, Russia sent to Syria aviation aerospace forces grouping. For some time, Russian planes will strike at targets of terrorist organizations, primarily the Islamic State, which is banned in our country. According to the announced plans, Russian participation in the war on terrorism will be limited to air strikes, etc. actions. The sending of the land contingent and participation in the ground operation is not planned.

October 1 Russian military department announced the first information about the quantitative and qualitative composition of the group of videoconferencing. The official representative of the Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said that more than 50 planes and helicopters of several types had been deployed to Syria. From other statements by the general, it follows that the grouping included Su-24M and Su-34 front-line bombers, as well as Su-25 attack aircraft. All these vehicles have already taken part in the combat work and made several dozen sorties to strike enemy targets.


Su-34 bomber landed. Shot from the report of the First Channel


The exact number of various airplanes and helicopters has not yet been officially specified. However, thanks to foreign specialists, the general public has already been able to obtain some information about the grouping of Russian videoconferencing systems in Syria. Apparently, an agreement on direct military assistance was reached by Moscow and Damascus a few weeks ago, which resulted in the transfer of aircraft and auxiliary equipment.

A few weeks ago, the first satellite photographs of the Syrian International Airport named after Gorkiy appeared on foreign specialized resources. Basil Al-Assad (also the name “Khmeimim airbase” appears), on which Russian planes and helicopters were captured. In addition, there were some other reports of the appearance of Russian aircraft in Syrian airspace. So, another 10 of September, the American television channel Fox News reported that several An-124 Ruslan military transport aircraft were seen in Syria. Apparently, these cars brought some equipment to the Middle Eastern country.

The September Aviationist edition 20 published a satellite photograph dated the previous day. The reconnaissance satellite, taking off the airport near Latakia, captured four Su-30CM multi-purpose fighter jets. This message has caused a strong reaction of the domestic and foreign public. For the first time during the armed conflict, modern Russian aircraft were spotted on the territory of Syria. In addition, during the discussion of information about the Su-30CM at the airport B. Al-Assad airport, for the first time there were speculations about the future participation of Russia in the battles.

In the future, new pictures of the airport were published, but the number of Su-30CM fighters did not change over time. Probably, only four such vehicles were deployed, which should now be responsible for intercepting various air targets and, possibly, participating in strikes against ground targets.


Satellite image of Khmeimim base from 20 September


Also, September 20 appeared a video of the flight of several aircraft. In the captured vehicles identified the Il-76 transport aircraft (or the Il-78 tanker) and the Su-24 front-line bombers. The number of these machines until a certain time was unclear.

Following the front bombers in Syria, the Su-25 attack aircraft were spotted. On satellite images from Allsource Analysis from 20 and September 23, one could see up to Russian-made 12 attack aircraft. In addition, on September 23 there were four Su-30CM and four Su-24, as well as one military transport Il-76 on the airfield.

Comparing the photographs of different days, one can notice that the personnel of the aviation group took some measures aimed at obstructing reconnaissance. So, on the photos of different days, the position of certain airplanes at the aerodrome is changing, which to a certain extent makes it difficult to determine the exact amount of equipment.

Also, 20 of September at one of the sites of the B.Al-Asad airport was seen before 12 helicopters, covered with camouflage nets. Foreign specialists identified Mi-24 or Mi-35 type vehicles in them. A more precise definition of the type of combat helicopters is made difficult by the poor quality of the images, the presence of camouflage nets, and the slight external differences between the two machines.


General view of the airfield, September 20


It is noteworthy that in some communications from September 20, the total number of Su-24M bombers at the level of 12 units was indicated. However, for the first time, cars of this type were photographed only a few days later in a slightly smaller number. Perhaps the satellite with photographic equipment could not take a photo at the right time, because of which information about the whole squadron of bombers had not been confirmed before a certain time.

September 21 TV channel ABC News, citing a source at the Pentagon reported that not only military, but also transport helicopters arrived in Syria. According to these data, several Mi-17 helicopters are used to perform transportation tasks, and the total number of helicopter groups has reached 15 units. The proportions of various types of technology remain unknown.

After more than a week after the first reports of Russian aircraft in Syria, information appeared about the additional transfer of aircraft. September 29 appeared photos, which were depicted Su-34 front-line bombers in flight and during landing. It was alleged that the pictures were taken near the city of Latakia, i.e. in close proximity to the Hmeimim airbase.


Takeoff sites with camouflaged helicopters, 23 September


Some foreign sources mentioned that the IL-20 electronic reconnaissance aircraft entered the Russian aviation group. However, this information was submitted with links to unnamed sources and has not yet received confirmation. Satellite photos with this aircraft have not yet appeared, but the use of such equipment in the existing situation may be justified.

September 30, having received the order, the Russian strike aircraft took to the air to destroy enemy targets. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, on the first day of the operation, our planes carried out about two dozen strikes against eight targets in different regions of Syria. It was reported on the successful destruction of targets, including command posts, ammunition depots and other objects belonging to terrorists.

For the first time in domestic practice, the Ministry of Defense began to publish not only brief press releases with general information about the conducted sorties, but also videos of strikes and destruction of targets. For example, by the evening of September 30, the general public was shown the process of destroying one of the enemy targets. Subsequently, the publication of such recordings continued, with the 1 and 2 of October, the military sharing the shooting of the night attacks.


Warehouses, barracks, etc., September 23


The fact of the appearance of video materials demonstrating the combat work of Russian attack aircraft is a reason for several conclusions at once. First of all, he says that the Russian Aerospace Forces now have the ability to directly monitor the situation and control the results of strikes with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles. In addition, it turns out that the aviation group in Syria has not only combat aircraft and helicopters, but also reconnaissance UAVs. However, the number and types of this technique remain unknown.

For obvious reasons, for the normal operation of combat aviation, not only an airfield is required, but also appropriate support equipment. The published satellite images show that barracks, warehouses, a household complex, etc. were deployed at the Syrian airport. Thus, a small base appeared on the territory of a friendly state, suitable for solving tasks.

Also, satellites “noticed” various land weapons and military equipment. Some objects in the images were identified as artillery, armored personnel carriers and Tanks. In addition, at the airport. B. Al-Assad there is a large number of automotive vehicles of various types.

Published by this time, data allow us to make an approximate list of Russian aircraft, carrying service on the Syrian base Hmeymim. These are four Su-30CM fighters, Su-12M bombers on 24 and Su-25CM attack aircraft, as well as Su-6 bombers 34. In addition, about one and a half dozen helicopters of several types have been deployed to Syria, a number of UAVs, etc.

Grouping VKS in Syria. Quantity and quality
Su-34 landing approach, photo dated September 29


The existing composition of the aviation group of the Russian Aerospace Forces speaks directly about its goals and objectives. Russian pilots will have to first attack ground objects of terrorists. In addition, what is called, just in case, several multi-purpose fighters were introduced into the group. If necessary, they will be able to protect attack aircraft and helicopters.

The composition of the Aerospace Forces grouping deployed to Syria, as well as the results of the first sorties, allow us to look into the future with restrained optimism. Russian front-line aviation pilots have already shown that they are capable of solving assigned tasks and delivering accurate strikes at enemy targets. In the near future, combat aviation will continue. Thus, the Russian military will take the most active part in the fight against terrorist organizations, as well as get the most important work experience in a real conflict.


On the materials of the sites:
http://ria.ru/
http://tass.ru/
http://interfax.ru/
http://lenta.ru/
http://theaviationist.com/
http://abcnews.go.com/
http://sandrermakoff.livejournal.com/
http://pfc-joker.livejournal.com/
http://spioenkop.blogspot.ru/

Video recordings of attacks on the positions of terrorists on the official youtube channel of the Ministry of Defense:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtqIS4Gj9IdFcxQT2hTgkuG3tHMRxFq2L
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 October 2015 06: 25
    23
    Our pilot pilots and the sea helps out. They leave for it with climb, a U-turn and a combat course. And from the sea, the ISIS could not crawl.
    But from the ground, theoretically, they can do something. They will try to get MANPADS, although the mericatos claim that they did not deliver them MANPADS, but who will believe them.
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 5 October 2015 07: 47
      12
      Quote: aszzz888
      But from the ground, theoretically, they can do something. They will try to get MANPADS, although the mericatos claim that they did not deliver them MANPADS, but who will believe them.

      I'm afraid MANPADS will appear soon, if not the Yusovites themselves, then dill or some other "good people" will be thrown!
      They don’t give a damn that now these scumbags will shoot at our airplanes, and tomorrow Russia’s main thing is to annoy them!
      And in the General Staff around this, too, they think so, it’s not without reason that the Aviation force is kept at 5000!
      1. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 13: 14
        +3
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        And in the General Staff around this, too, they think so, it’s not without reason that the Aviation force is kept at 5000!

        Videos from the militants.
        Su-25 over the area of ​​El Latamna, the province of Hama.

        Burning munitions ammunition depot in Idlib province.
      2. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 13: 14
        +3
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        And in the General Staff around this, too, they think so, it’s not without reason that the Aviation force is kept at 5000!

        On the afternoon of October 4, 2015, the Press Service and Information Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that “the Russian air group from the Khmeimim airbase continues to increase the delivery of precision-guided air strikes against targets of the international terrorist group ISIS in Syria.
        Over the past day, 20 sorties of Su-34, Su-24M and Su-25 aircraft were completed. Strikes against 10 objects of ISIS gangs.

        Suspension of a Kh-25ML guided missile with a semi-active laser guidance system on a front-line bomber Su-24M of the Russian Aerospace Forces at the Syrian airfield Basel al-Assad ("Khmeimim") near Latakia. 03.10.2015 (c) RIA Novosti

        Su-25 attack aircraft attacked a terrorist training camp in the KESLAJUK area, IDLIB province. As a result of the attack, the militants' shelters and a workshop for the manufacture of improvised explosive devices, including “martyr belts”, were destroyed.

        Su-24m and Su-34 bombers attacked eight ISIS targets in the vicinity of JISR-ESH-SHUGUR, IDLIB province.
        With point strikes in this area, three depots with ammunition, weapons and materiel from the gangs were destroyed. As a result of direct hits on the target of the KAB-500 corrected bombs, the ammunition stored on them was ignited and detonated.

        With the use of concrete-bombing BETAB-500 aerial bombs, four command posts of ISIL units were destroyed. The structures in which the militants were located were completely destroyed.
        As a result of the attack on the terrorist base, the buildings in which the militants took refuge, as well as a warehouse with weapons and material reserves, were destroyed. Five units of armored vehicles were disabled.
        Su-24 and Su-25 aircraft inflicted three consecutive attacks on the control point and ammunition depot near the city of MAARET-EN-NUMAN. All targets are destroyed.

        In the vicinity of the city of ET-TABKA in the province of RAKKA, Su-34 aircraft attacked KAB-500 aerial bombs at the special training center for ISIS militants and the weapons depot located on its territory. As a result of numerous explosions of ammunition, the infrastructure of the center, designed to train terrorists, was destroyed.
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 5 October 2015 16: 35
          +8
          thanks for the videos, looked with interest

          It seems that there is 2 factor

          1) it is better to defend our borders away from them - in Syria, than to do nothing and then defend ourselves against aggressors at our doors in Iran

          2) Test the latest Su-30 and 34 in combat. Also not superfluous. Our republic has also recently started using Su 30 - so everyone would be interested to see how they prove themselves in reality

          It would be good for the image of the Su 30 and promotion on the market if, by "opportunity", they shot down a couple of bourgeois F 16 or 15
      3. igorka357
        igorka357 6 October 2015 09: 03
        +1
        Correct comment, but the airman "Y" I just cuts in the ears!
    2. user
      user 5 October 2015 08: 02
      +5
      But from the ground, theoretically, they can do something.



      Well, given the glide path, then for the MANPADS there remains a very short and fairly narrow sector of fire, the positions from which you can fire, it will not be very difficult to control (well, with more or less normal organization of the service, this is about the Arab mentality).
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 5 October 2015 12: 31
        +3
        Quote: user
        Well, given the glide path, then for the MANPADS there remains a very short and fairly narrow sector of fire, the positions from which you can fire, it will not be very difficult to control (well, with more or less normal organization of the service, this is about the Arab mentality).



        I think that this is what our specialists will control and will not trust anyone.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 5 October 2015 18: 18
          +3
          Quote: neri73-r
          I think that this is what our specialists will control and will not trust anyone.

          Judging by the photo, the protection and defense of the airfield was built according to Afghan norms. Satellite photos show artillery positions. In the photo of the Ministry of Defense, the patrolling surroundings of the Mi-24 are now and then visible (namely 24 - "paws are drawn in" smile ).
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 6 October 2015 10: 15
            0
            "Judging by the photo, the protection and defense of the airfield was built according to the norms of Afgan" ////

            I don’t know how it was in Afghanistan, but here the situation is extremely dangerous.

            Airplanes are crowded, even sandbag walls are lazy between them
            put. Do you know how the shrapnel from the Grad missiles scatters? One rocket
            on the runway - and a third of the aircraft under repair.

            The airport has already begun firing rockets from the heights prevailing over it.
            (UN observers reported). So far, fortunately, there have been only shortcomings.

            Militants are gathering into the mountains above the airfield. Installations "Grad" in the Middle East
            small on 2-4-6 guides. Transported by pickup trucks. Shoot from the ground.
            There are no Syrian army in these mountains. There are only Alavite villages and towns,
            guarded by self-defense groups. All young men have long been mobilized.
            into the Syrian army and are fighting far from their home. Alawites will not be able to stop
            militants who send selected people to the airport.

            The Russian army must urgently establish control over neighboring hills.
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      3. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 13: 48
        +6
        Quote: user
        Well, this is with a more or less normal organization of service, I'm talking about the Arab mentality

        Quote: neri73-r
        I think that this is what our specialists will control and will not trust anyone.

        A group of marine corps of the coastal forces of the Russian Navy has begun to guard the Khmeimim air base in Syrian Latakia, where an aviation group of the Russian Aerospace Forces is deployed. This was announced by spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov.

        1. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 5 October 2015 20: 44
          0
          And what is not desert camouflage?
          1. Just BB
            Just BB 7 October 2015 17: 32
            0
            Look at the map hi - to the desert through the mountains (about 30 km from the runway) it is necessary to cross, but this is "green": orange, olive and pomegranate orchards
  2. Imperial
    Imperial 5 October 2015 06: 41
    +2
    Both on, does VO have its own YouTube channel? (slowly scratching turnip) and where I was))) (and echidnenko so) and in a personal notice where?
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 5 October 2015 07: 46
      0
      Quote: Imperial
      and where is the notification in PM?

      Lurking, apparently. Traces are swept away.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 5 October 2015 07: 55
        +2
        according to NATO at the Khmeimim airfield are based:
        Su-30СМ - 4 aircraft
        Su-Xnumx - Xnumx Aircraft
        Su-Xnumx - Xnumx Aircraft
        Su-Xnumx - Xnumx Aircraft
        MI-17 - 15 HELICOPTERS
        MI-24 - 15 HELICOPTERS

        and opinion about the operation of a professional ...
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 5 October 2015 08: 29
          +2
          Russian aviation is based at the Khmeimim airfield ...

          how many airfields can be used to build up the Air Force ....

          maps of airfields in Syria ...

          клик
        2. kot11180
          kot11180 5 October 2015 13: 10
          +2
          Cossack then sent to the campaign. I don’t think that in this situation our people entered Syria without getting ready - the error is too high. Again, the Americans are better - but there’s no sense in them.
        3. aws4
          aws4 5 October 2015 15: 11
          +7
          Konstantin Sivkov was born in 1954. In 1976 he graduated from the Naval College. Popova. He served in the navy. Graduated from VMA. In 1992 he graduated from the Academy of the General Staff. From 1995 to 2007 he served in the General Staff of the Armed Forces. Doctor of Military Sciences. Specialist in the field of military political science. He took part in the development of doctrinal documents determining the construction and use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ..... it is somehow strange to hear contradictory things from the mouth of a specialist .... on the one hand, he says that there are full-fledged fronts on both sides on the other that aviation the partisans cannot be defeated .... as I see the goal as races is to turn a full-fledged grouping into partisans, this goal will be achieved .... and the second where are the facts ??? specifically what did they do there and what did they bomb and bomb and how many sorties does the coalition aviation make ??? I’ll say that I’m not melting myself against the presence of our aircraft in Syria, and I agree with him BUT as a military expert, there is no trust in him .... for me, it’s one verbiage ..... I spent half an hour in vain ..
          1. kot11180
            kot11180 5 October 2015 17: 12
            +2
            That's just the point, Sivkov has serious training, but whose interests it is not clear, but clearly not Ours
            1. aws4
              aws4 5 October 2015 23: 59
              +4
              here I am about the same .... in troubled times I graduated from the Academy with 95 served in the General Staff at a time when the army was destroyed and the Soviet power was shaken to the remainder and here such conflicting conclusions .... in my opinion it all fits together)))))) ))))))))))))))))
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 6 October 2015 09: 10
                0
                Yes, you look at his shirt .. he can’t put a normal Russian man in a flower shirt under a strict suit!
  3. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 5 October 2015 06: 53
    +4
    Let's see what happens in a month. Given the psychology of the Arab warriors, ISIS and can scatter.
    1. Do not care
      Do not care 5 October 2015 07: 31
      14
      Considering the psychology of these guys, in a month they will move to densely populated areas, and command posts and warehouses with weapons will be dragged to the cellars of schools and hospitals.
  4. otto meer
    otto meer 5 October 2015 07: 08
    +4
    The Air Force is good, but air strikes alone will not solve the problem. The trench is captured when the infantryman's "nuts" are hanging over it. We were taught this way. And now the word for the infantry of Syria, but how they will act ... that's a question. For ours, I'm sure.
    1. asadov
      asadov 5 October 2015 07: 41
      +6
      I agree. now the move for Assad ..
  5. Rigla
    Rigla 5 October 2015 07: 13
    0
    MI24 ??? What for? It was necessary MI28 or KA50 (52)!
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 5 October 2015 07: 55
      +2
      Why, why, for the entity itself, or is it not clear anyway !? Yes, everything is simple, if there are losses, then not new, but proven "Crocodiles", but the new one will save for the future! Although the Mi-24 is not bad and will still fight with ISIS!
  6. Andrey55
    Andrey55 5 October 2015 07: 58
    0
    The author who writes about the quantity and quality of our airborne forces in Syria needs to be more careful in specifying the modifications of the aircraft (if he indicates them) in order to avoid such mistakes:
    The data published by this time make it possible to compile an approximate list of Russian aircraft operating in the Syrian base of Khmeimim. These are four Su-30SM fighters, 12 bombers each Sioux 24M and Su-25SM attack aircraft, as well as at least 6 bombers Su-24.
    Moreover, Su-24M2 is used in Syria, and Su-24 (T-6, “product 41 ″) was produced in 1972-1983.
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    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 5 October 2015 08: 41
      +1
      the operation of Russian troops in Syria involves three stages ((presumably))):

      the first stage "defensive" began on September 30 and will last about a month ...
      its main tasks are to destroy the infrastructure of terrorists, cut off supply routes and give the Syrian army time to gather strength to launch an offensive ...

      the second stage is "offensive": its goal is to get to the capital of ISIS - the city of Raqqa within a month and completely destroy the terrorists on the territory of Syria, it is assumed that the Syrian army and the military contingent from Iran will be involved on land ...

      the third stage "final" - implies an operation on the territory of Iraq with the final defeat of ISIS, will be performed ((if Baghdad made this request to Russia)))
      destroyed terrorist ammunition depot located in the JISR-ESH-SHUGUR area
  7. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 5 October 2015 08: 28
    0
    On "Courage" they also talk about this topic. I took from there the layout for the work of Israeli aviation during the Second Lebanon War.
    So, in order to create a similar intensity of blows during 2-3 months, the Russian group should be increased five times. And the question here is not courage and training, but corny in the physical capabilities of the pilots and the technical capabilities of the aircraft.
    10,100 sorties of combat aircraft (approximately 12,000 flight hours);
    1,797 sorties of combat helicopters;
    1,000 sorties of airborne transport helicopters;
    1,350 UAV departure (approximately 15,000 flight hours);
    1,150 sorties of transport aircraft.
    About 6,900 were attacked from the air (according to another source - about 7,000) targets, including:
    3,000 - buildings, bunkers and caves;
    2,400 - bombardment of launch areas of the MLRS;
    500 - attack of bridges and roads;
    700 - PU missiles and suspicious vehicles;
    200 - direct groups of militants;
    100 - radar and communication systems.
    1. otto meer
      otto meer 5 October 2015 09: 25
      11
      No, what do you equal. Firstly, your aircraft worked very tightly (including in residential areas - 1140 dead and 4000 wounded civilians). It also implies point strikes and direct support. Secondly, our infrastructure (bridges, roads, etc.) will not be destroyed by ours. In the third, the Ishilians will be thinner than the Hezbolans, in terms of technology (MLRS, radar, MPU, etc.) - this means less consumption. But in the fourth and most important, the ground forces of Syria can not be compared with the IDF. The IDF is an order of magnitude more serious organization both in terms of equipment and in terms of training, discipline, even in the end motivation! And then the IDF suffered significant losses: 121 killed, 400 wounded, 60 to 150 armored vehicles (including up to 30 tanks) were destroyed and damaged. So with the ground operation, performed by the Syrians, there may be problems.
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 5 October 2015 09: 27
      -4
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      in order to create a similar intensity of blows during 2-3 months, the Russian group should be increased five times


      why repeat ???SM above interview Sivkova K.I.... everything is laid out on "shelves" and with numbers ....

      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      commonplace in the physical capabilities of pilots and the technical capabilities of aircraft.


      and the lack of the necessary material and technical base .....

      war in Syria: 05.10.2015 news : http://news-mail.by/2015/10/05/vojna-v-sirii-novosti-za-05-10-2015/

      and weather forecast for October ....
      1. asar
        asar 5 October 2015 12: 26
        0
        Everything is fine with the weather!

        Damascus +27 / +14
        Partly cloudy +24 / +13
        clear +26 / +13
        clear
        Aleppo (Aleppo) +28 / +17
        Partly cloudy +24 / +16
        Partly cloudy +24 / +16
        possible thunderstorm
        Palmyra +29 / +16
        Partly cloudy +28 / +15
        clear +27 / +16
        clear
        Tartus +28 / +19
        Chance of a Thunderstorm +26 / +19
        rain +28 / +20
        storm


        You can live and even need to!
        And in Kunduz, where US aircraft made a monstrous raid on the hospital, today + 34!
        Well, that's all the lyrics!
        And the GRU and the SVR may need to think about "blocking" the channels of "possible" supplies of the same "Buk" from dill! After all, the Ukrope "Buki" "got familiar" in the war 08.08.08!
    3. figter
      figter 5 October 2015 11: 05
      +5
      Aron Zawi (4) IL Today, 08: 28 New
      On "Courage" they also talk about this topic. I took from there the layout for the work of Israeli aviation during the Second Lebanon War.
      So, in order to create a similar intensity of blows during 2-3 months, the Russian group should be increased five times. And the question here is not courage and training, but corny in the physical capabilities of the pilots and the technical capabilities of the aircraft.
      10,100 sorties of combat aircraft (approximately 12,000 flight hours);
      1,797 sorties of combat helicopters;
      1,000 sorties of airborne transport helicopters;
      1,350 UAV departure (approximately 15,000 flight hours);
      1,150 sorties of transport aircraft.
      About 6,900 were attacked from the air (according to another source - about 7,000) targets, including:
      3,000 - buildings, bunkers and caves;
      2,400 - bombardment of launch areas of the MLRS;
      500 - attack of bridges and roads;
      700 - PU missiles and suspicious vehicles;
      200 - directly militant units;
      100 - radar and communication systems.

      Don't talk nonsense! It is exactly as much as is necessary to support the ground operation of the Syrian army with its strength. On average, 9-12 blows on individual objects, more is not needed. There is no front line as such, but there are localized hostilities. Don't worry about the physical capabilities of the pilots and combat tension, these are not your difficulties. And then, you give the layout of forces and means of some kind of Second Lebanon War. The Russian army "does not know" such a war and does not use someone else's calculations, obviously of dubious quality.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 5 October 2015 12: 33
        +1
        We just need to keep in mind our base in Armenia, which can operate through the territory of Iran (the coordination center in Baghdad allows). 700 km, approximately, to Mosul and about 1000 - to Der az Zora. Just for the Su-34 and - even more so - for the Tu-22.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 October 2015 17: 35
        +2
        Quote: figter
        It is exactly as much as is necessary to support the ground operation of the Syrian army with its strength. On average, 9-12 blows on individual objects, more is not needed. There is no front line as such, but there are localized hostilities. Don't worry about the physical capabilities of the pilots and combat tension, these are not your difficulties. And then, you give the layout of forces and means of some kind of Second Lebanon War. The Russian army "does not know" such a war and does not use someone else's calculations, obviously of dubious quality.

        hm Sad
  8. Gray 43
    Gray 43 5 October 2015 09: 24
    11
    What Westerners fellows, all the aircraft technology were counted by tanks and vehicles, and in the Donbass only combines and tractors, some sort of selective vision
  9. stpv1
    stpv1 5 October 2015 09: 35
    +1
    I was surprised why the stars were shaded on our planes.
  10. Mera joota
    Mera joota 5 October 2015 09: 44
    23 th
    The victorious reports of the domestic agitprop at the level of the "Soviet Information Bureau" sample 1941. Everyone was bombed and the ISs are running in fear with wet trousers ... And of course the whole world "froze in admiration" from Russian weapons ...
    "Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ... I'm glad to be deceived myself!"
    All this is understandable, only part of the information war, but this adventure did not find any special support among the people (in contrast to the Crimean and LDNR). The fact that the representatives of the Russian Federation do not comment on the shots of the destruction of the Su-25 over Syria suggests that they will try to hush up all the losses, only in the yard not in 1979, the Internet instantly spreads information that is accessible to everyone. After all, this is not the last Su-25 shot down in the sky of Syria ... In addition, a couple of months later the question will arise, well, like they bombed everything, but the situation has not changed radically in Assad’s favor ... like bearded men with machine guns ran, they still run .. .
    1. Homo
      Homo 5 October 2015 10: 54
      +6
      Quote: Mera Joota
      The victorious reports of the domestic agitprop at the level of the "Soviet Information Bureau" sample 1941.

      Do you like the opuses of the Western media more?
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      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 5 October 2015 12: 21
        -6
        Quote: Homo
        Do you like the opuses of the Western media more?

        No. How they fool their citizens to dive me deeply when they try to fool me, then this causes a definite negative reaction.
        The fact is that the effectiveness of aviation in the fight against semi-partisan formations is obviously low. Anyone who believes that the Islamists are building some sort of bunkers and command centers in which maps are hung on the walls, and operators with sleepy people enter various data and draw arrows is quite naive.
        1. shans2
          shans2 5 October 2015 16: 57
          +1
          put on the pan and ride with Gozman and Makarevich in ecstasy. wassat
    2. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 5 October 2015 18: 21
      +3
      Is the evidence in the studio weak? If you really started to spread the tales, then at least for the case. Downed planes are usually shown in the form of scrap metal on the ground, and what you pour here, even disassemble laziness - if you're interested, look at Sharia - he is a fan of studying fakes. So what about what agitprop you work with is clear.
  11. mihasik
    mihasik 5 October 2015 11: 07
    +6
    Quote: Mera Joota
    All this is understandable, only part of the information war, but this adventure did not find special support among the people (unlike the Crimean and LDNR)

    What "people" are you talking about? Are you all rolled into one? Where are the statistical polls at least "Levada" centers and others like them? What "scatters" on the Internet, for the most part, can not be called except "diarrhea". With the Su-25-jamb, they are not there. There are 12 Su-25SM units in Syria, and their number has not decreased.
    What other "your proofs"?)
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    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 5 October 2015 12: 25
      -5
      Quote: mihasik
      Where are the statistical polls at least "Levada" centers and others like them?

      It has been said about statistics a long time ago, this girl is more than venal. I am surrounded by people whose reaction I can observe and evaluate public opinion. Most were happy for Crimea, cautious responses for Syria, no one waving "flags" too much.
      Quote: mihasik
      With the Su-25-cant, they are not there. In Syria, 12 pieces of Su-25SM

      What does it change? What was the point regarding the incorrect classification? How does the Su-25 look radically different from the Su-25SM?
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 5 October 2015 16: 44
        +5
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Most were happy for Crimea, cautious responses for Syria, no one waving "flags" too much.

        What, frightened by the additional sanctions?) Or is the environment afraid that they will be called up for the Army?
        What was the point regarding the incorrect classification? How does the Su-25 look radically different from the Su-25SM?

        And why did you get that you shot down the Su-25, and not the Su-24, or not the F-16 at all, and that the plane was shot down precisely in Syria and that it belongs to the Russian Aerospace Forces?
        From the video, which shows a point firing off a parachute with a pilot and shouts of "Allah Akbar"?)))) Don't make people laugh with such "facts".
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 6 October 2015 05: 38
          0
          Quote: mihasik
          What, frightened by the additional sanctions?) Or is the environment afraid that they will be called up for the Army?

          Do you need to ulce? I do not let taunts in your address.
          My entourage has either served a long time or it will never be invoked by age. If they are afraid, then for their children.
          Quote: mihasik
          And why did you get that you shot down the Su-25, and not the Su-24, or not the F-16 at all, and that the plane was shot down precisely in Syria and that it belongs to the Russian Aerospace Forces?

          I can distinguish the silhouette of the Su-25 from the Su-24, not blind, the Su-25 flew over me a lot at one time. Filmed either in Syria or in Iraq, nowhere else is the Su-25 shot down to the shouts of "Allah-Akbar" (even in Ukraine). The Iraqi authorities have not announced the destruction of the Su-25, which means it is in Syria. Assad has not had a living Su-25 for a long time, they used MiG-23 under attack aircraft, respectively, one conclusion, shot down ours. If you are not satisfied with the logical chain, then build your own, just ask without sarcasm.
  12. qwert
    qwert 5 October 2015 13: 36
    -1
    Considering Turkey's "concern", it is worth the Su-30SM to fly to cover the Su-24 and Su-25. And it won't hurt to increase the number of fighters.

    Quote: stpv1
    I was surprised why the stars were shaded on our planes.
    And this is not good. We have nothing to be ashamed of and afraid of. At least in Syria. It's ugly to paint over your symbolism. We are not pirates. Everything is open and honest.
    Quote: Rigla
    MI24 ??? What for? It was necessary MI28 or KA50 (52)!

    Mi-24 machine, although old but proven and durable. Unnecessarily sophisticated cars are not needed there. The wrong goals and the wrong air defense system of the enemy. And besides, the Mi-28 is clearly an unsuccessful machine, it can just screw it up.
    And about Ka-50 and Ka-52 - excellent helicopters good But, as we see, Russia does not need them. There was hope in the Mistral. But seizing the opportunity, they (Ka-52) were quickly thrown off to Egypt. For me it’s either shortsightedness or betrayal
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 7 October 2015 17: 48
      0
      Not only is the Mi-28 still a "raw" machine (and this is a "miracle" from the 80s), but at the same time it looks very much like an Apache in silhouette. Considering the "geography" where the events take place - the appearance of such a "miracle" can "do miracles" what (and what did I say)
  13. 123321
    123321 5 October 2015 14: 04
    +7
    The latest electronic warfare systems “Krasuha-4” arrived in Syria

    The Russian military deployed Krasukha-4 electronic warfare systems in Syria, designed to suppress aircraft radars and counter drones. This follows from the video posted on the website of the Zvezda television and radio company.

    In the video illustrating the landing on the Syrian airfield of Khmeimim, the Russian Su-25 attack aircraft returned from a combat mission, a car with a characteristic set of antenna devices is visible in the background.

    The comparison shows that with a high degree of probability it is a machine of the 1RL 257 “Krasukha-4” mobile electronic warfare complex. These systems, developed at KRET Concern (at the Novgorod NPO Kvant), are produced at the Bryansk Electromechanical Plant.

    “Krasuhi” are wide-range jamming stations and are designed to suppress the operation of airborne radars of early warning radars and strike aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles radars, as well as radars of radar reconnaissance satellites.

    According to the manufacturers, the Krasukha-4 complex is capable of completely closing the protected object from radar detection at ranges up to 150-300 kilometers, and can also inflict radar damage to enemy communications and electronic warfare. Complexes "Kraukha-4" adopted by the armed forces in 2012, and delivered to the troops since 2013.
  14. pogis
    pogis 5 October 2015 14: 33
    +1
    Quote: qwert
    And this is not good. We have nothing to be ashamed of and afraid of. At least in Syria. It's ugly to paint over your symbolism. We are not pirates. Everything is open and honest.

    The stars are painted over. flew to Syria around 20 of September and made reconnaissance flights! So that the slippers would not sniff that they (slippers) would be covered with a cap.
  15. nivander
    nivander 5 October 2015 14: 42
    0
    This is also a great presentation.
  16. LEX SU
    LEX SU 5 October 2015 15: 01
    +8
    Quote: Mera Joota
    The victorious reports of the domestic agitprop at the level of the "Soviet Information Bureau" sample 1941. Everyone was bombed and the ISs are running in fear with wet trousers ... And of course the whole world "froze in admiration" from Russian weapons ...
    "Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ... I'm glad to be deceived myself!"
    All this is understandable, only part of the information war, but this adventure did not find any special support among the people (in contrast to the Crimean and LDNR). The fact that the representatives of the Russian Federation do not comment on the shots of the destruction of the Su-25 over Syria suggests that they will try to hush up all the losses, only in the yard not in 1979, the Internet instantly spreads information that is accessible to everyone. After all, this is not the last Su-25 shot down in the sky of Syria ... In addition, a couple of months later the question will arise, well, like they bombed everything, but the situation has not changed radically in Assad’s favor ... like bearded men with machine guns ran, they still run .. .


    you know, I read commentators with Israeli flags at least obliquely, their eyes are of course blinkered (though I don't approve of thoughtless urapatriotism), but criticism and a look from the SIDE allow you to see the picture more clearly, especially since some show good knowledge and some experience ("Ntellekt" as one late colonel used to say at the Academy when I was studying ..)
    and so ... your fake letters with thoughtless stuffing ...
    and you are right, the Internet, it is like that, "instantly distributes information that is available to everyone" (c) ESPECIALLY AMAZING THE PHOTOS OF VCS FLIGHT RESULTS BEFORE THE START OF THE FLIGHTS lol
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 October 2015 07: 53
    +1
    It seems to me that they saved on combat helicopters. They were brought in to protect airfields, and not to attack our opponents. And in the presence of "night" Mi-24-28, you can effectively finish off what remained after the attacks of the Su 24-25. And, also, fly out hunting at night. From a commercial point of view, direct advertising of the Mi-28N and Mi-35. With the absence of combat losses from MANPADS during flights at night and in poor weather conditions, control of caravans in the territories bordering Turkey. And more will kill the moderate and not quite moderate.
  18. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 6 October 2015 08: 30
    0
    ARON ZAVRI !!! TROLL Hebrew do you have any idea what was going on on the ground when a "rook" was unloaded there 100kg bomb dropped from a tank in the 2-3m tank turns over 6 tons there, and vapche constantly truncates badly, but everything is fine with you, so go in the armor, otherwise they cut you there like animals that you don't eat
  19. toors
    toors 6 October 2015 16: 31
    0
    I hope this site is watched by people from the authorities ... Secrecy is half the success and tactical superiority.

    It's time to shut up all the media, shoot down ov drones and satellites.

    Bandits just burn napalm !!!

    The war is on.