"Such a marvelous car."

Synopsis. Chechnya - 2008 year. The first armored vehicles "Tiger" began to arrive in the Russian army.

They immediately fell into parts of the army special forces, which carried out reconnaissance missions on the territory of Chechnya and actively destroyed the terrorists.

The appearance of the "Tigers" interested militants - on their "head" was awarded an award. Shoot up an armored car supposed 2 thousands of dollars ....


The battle

And here begins story one clash:

The tiger came under fire when stopped in Bamut in August 2008. An 2 shot was made from the RPG-7. The first PG-7 grenade gets into the open door ...

The second PG-7 flies in to the cabin through the same open door and turns off the passenger's seat with stabilizers.

... and after the rebound enters the air intake and without detonation, falling apart.

On the way, breaking the driver AKS-74.

As a result, a rocket-propelled grenade destroys a fire extinguisher, and without exploding, collapses, at the same time burning the interior trim and seat covers with a jet engine rocket.

Traces of bullet hits is the result of the work of an enemy machine gunner. Neither bulletproof glass, nor bronestal of the machine gun body were given.

He managed to pierce only the liner (the bullet was stuck in the rack radiator).

The personnel did not suffer, as there was only a machine gunner in the car, he returned fire, and then the others supported him.

The story as submitted by the participant:

a real car, in 08, a run-in took place in Chechnya, and at the same time a bombardment, on arrival in Chechnya, the souls got a huge interest in banging this car, the rate started from 1.5 th.u.docat to 2 th.u. they still managed to catch us, two hits from the RPG and multiple hits of 9.08.08 mm BZ, including side windows. The result: they scratched the paint of the passenger door from the first hit from the RPG, the front passenger seat was torn off from the second shot of the RPG (since after dismounting it left the door open ), the interior trim caught fire itelskogo places kotorub quickly extinguished, scratched paint on the bullet hits on the stern and damaged, but not fundamentally side window, a car in a short time and brought before the eyes of spirits distilled in a safe mesto.Vot such a marvelous machine.

This case as presented by the media:

In Chechnya, a military convoy was shot at: a local resident was injured
publication time: 10 August 2008 g., 10: 49

In Achkhoi-Martan district of Chechnya, a local resident was injured during the shelling of a military convoy. This was reported by ITAR-TASS in the law enforcement agencies of the Chechen Republic.

"The night before, at the crossroads of Greidernaya and Shkolnaya streets in the village of Bamut, unidentified persons fired from automatic weapons and a grenade launcher military convoy, "- said the agency interlocutor.

It consisted of two Tigr vehicles on the basis of GAZ-66, belonging to a division of one of the operational special forces units of the Ministry of Defense.

One of the cars received technical damage, there were no injuries among the personnel, reported to the law enforcement agencies. However, as a result of a gunshot wound, a local resident was wounded, who at the time of the shelling was in a trade kiosk.

newsru.com

The article uses a photo and a part of the text from the desantura forum: desantura.ru

Comments

[Tjumenec72]

There are also not flattering reviews, though on the first tiger (which version is not specified here).
http://k-a-r-d-e-n.livejournal.com/17643.html
In general, mine protection should be increased.

[Vadivak]

RPG shots that didn’t work twice — it’s just fantastic luck, but I saw the class car (he was driving in a row) and I didn’t have a feeling of anxiety that he wouldn’t notice how I braked

The same tiger after the battle

[Vulkan raven]

This is a police SPM-1, according to the TTZ Ministry of Internal Affairs, without military acceptance. Mine protection is on the Tiger-6A and Wolf-M.

[Vulkan raven]

Correction: at Karden'a SPM-1, not in the photo.

[Mujahiddin777]

They brought the same to Tajikistan, "Tigers" Beauty is a car!

[patriot64]

And why the hell did our army surrender Italian armored vehicles, if their showed high reliability? !!! Have the generals not all stolen from the army?

[Tjumenec72]

At the time when they were looking at the lynx, the tiger did not have anti-mine protection and the ball class was 3rd. And now (when there is tiger 6a) it seems like they are justified by the fact that they want to get licenses for reservation and dviglo.

[urzul]

In fact, they have already decided to supply TigrM to the army, in Arzmas 700 vehicles will be assembled

[Vulkan raven]

Moreover, we don’t need the Iveco F1C engine; we have our own YaMZ-534, more powerful and better. And domestic armored ceramics too.

Excuses ...

[kazanskii]

It is necessary to send "Iveco" to Chechnya for testing (together with the Italian crew and our officials from the Ministry of Defense), and then look and compare with the "Tigers".

[UAZ Patriot]

COMMANDER !!!!!)))))

[demon ada]

fully support
and the Czechs to raise the premium to 5 thousand Baku rubles for the Italian crew
for one and check the financing scheme.

[mark021105]

Right))). Taburetkin and Postnikov there!

[vadimus]

They’re there with the North Africans and they don’t even fight ... Armor to them

[makrus]

It's nice to read such material, it’s good that no one died (lucky comrade, survive two shots from an RPG). It turns out that the military has been operating this machine since 2008, it would be interesting to read the combat use.

[andrey903]

probably shot at close range, the grenades did not have time to cock

[Lech e-mine]

IF SAVED AT LEAST ONE OF OUR FIGHTER THEN THIS ALREADY THIS MACHINE JUSTIFIED MYSELF.

[His]

These are the machines that are needed

[urzul]

It consisted of two Tiger vehicles based on the GAZ-66, belonging to a unit of one of the operational special forces of the Ministry of Defense,
About GAZ-66 killed, it is immediately clear that the news from the category of One Grandma Said;)))

[KASKAD]

Wake up, what a grandmother base 66 and BTR80 bridges

[Vulkan raven]

You would not be bullshit.

[urzul]

don't confuse Sadko with GAZ-3308,
GAZ-2975 "Tiger":
Width, mm 2200
Wheelbase, mm 3000
GAZ-66:
Width: 2342 mm
Wheelbase: 3300 mm

[desava]

Just in 2008, near the town of Goryachy Klyuch, I saw a convoy of brand-new "Tigers". They left an enthusiastic impression. The Hummer is somehow either boring or really seems like a vacuum cleaner among the refrigerators. Judging by the fact that the armor withstood 7,62, the armor is good. If I understand correctly, I just have to bring this car to its senses. And on the purchased "Iveco" let the officials ride in hot spots. As for unexploded RPGs, luck is unthinkable!

[Komsomolets]

The car is very cool, although there are some shortcomings. By the way, about the poor protection that Stouretkin is talking about, the breeders said that those parties of "Tigers" the military themselves ordered the 3rd class of protection. And they can bring her to the 5th or 6th grade without any problems. But the Italians, their Iveco of the 6th class of protection with super modern armor, were forbidden to explode. So think about what kind of armored vehicles they want to palm off on us. By the way, it is not known what happened to Iveco in this situation ...

[Tjumenec72]

undermined ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJcEia1CM1E&feature=player_embedded

[Komsomolets]

Well, you certainly won’t leave on this. Yes, and inside it did not fly ... And so nothing glamorous

[KASKAD]

But the mannequins with their heads in place remained in the tiger, the steering wheel in the skull sticking out

[patriot64]

The traitors of the Fatherland know that they want to buy a deliberate g ... but, at the same time, they will profit themselves. Our "Tiger" is much safer, but the generals cannot be put in "IVECO", like their sons! They do not know that the life of a soldier is not an expendable material, because their own children drive "Merins", not tanks and army "UAZs". Reform in the army must begin first of all with the compulsory military service of the offspring of the generals, regardless of whether he was born healthy or one-legged !!! Then, I think, those who are going to buy all sorts of bullshit from foreigners will scratch their bald spots, but will the son return from such an army?

[stas52]

something is heard neither jokera nor the local.

[Lech e-mine]

WAIT. COMING SOON. Laugh.

[His]

They are still sleeping

[Tjumenec72]

do not offend them, without them it will be boring)))
joker - even argues his position

[Joker]

Thank you, I will say about the TIGER that the car is good, it is not inferior to Western analogues. The only thing is, the electronics would be good there, but I’ll finish the interior a bit, otherwise I look at the photographs and there are a lot of angles about which you can break your head without undermining. And since I honestly like our tiger most of all, the main thing is not to stop at what has been achieved, but to modernize it constantly. And of course, we would have bought more of them. And then the tented Urals are already the last century, now almost all modern wars are being waged in cities, and maneuverability and security are important there, which the TIGER possesses. I would like the WOLF to also find its place in the troops, a very interesting machine. All the same, 21 century in the yard, we need to rearm as soon as possible so that Turkmenistan no longer dictates its rules to us.

[Mesniy]

Che, dudes, without pills like without a gingerbread?
But seriously, I’m already used to you too, I came home in the morning - and to you right away ...

[Mesniy]

And what did you want to hear? I didn’t see any cars in business, what a waste of cormorants.
But one thing I know for sure - all the offspring of the domestic auto industry is crippled shit. But this as a whole, specifically for this car - I don’t know.

[Vulkan raven]

The tiger is not a car industry but a military industrial complex, an Arzamas factory, a slipway assembly along with an armored personnel carrier.

[Mesniy]

oh well, the same gas, quality is still ...

[Smilodon]

I understood the hint from the text. Our tigers look at what tests I can run and this is in a real situation (not without a share of luck, of course, but still). And what are Italian cars capable of? Perhaps, they are definitely capable of one thing ... of instant collapse and self-destruction in real conditions. The main thing is to get there. After that, the question is, why the hell are "our" officials doing this? If they were really ours, this would not have happened, but they are "ours." The difference, I think, is clear.

[dred]

our brandies are the best in the world. Hmer Avno.

[Joker]

Hammer is a great car, but it was removed from service due to the fact that it is clumsy and it is no longer possible to upgrade it.

[Mesniy]

wait, no one has removed him from weapons and is not going to, they are developing a new model.

[Owl]

It was lucky that the car was "worked" at close range, closer than 15-20 meters, so the PG-7 fuses were not cocked. When an armored object is actually hit from a grenade launcher, usually the entire crew becomes "200" and "300".

[Tyumen]

You do not explain what it means * turns stabilizer passenger seat *? Like this?

[Tjumenec72]

at a decent speed with these "ears"

[Tyumen]

Thank you, I did not know about the stabilizers at the grenade. Then another question: if half a machine was blown apart, is the protection good?

[Tjumenec72]

Actually, not one armored car is designed for shells to fly into the cabin)))
The minus of the tiger is that it was not originally designed to undermine, but the lynx is just yes.

[Vulkan raven]

Got what they ordered. It would be prescribed in the TTZ mine action - would have done. The problem is that in the Moscow Region normal TK cannot give.

[Bad_gr]

An article on Iveka’s demolition tests http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2012/01/1_27.html

[Mesniy]

all machines of these types have protection against bullets and fragments, the RPG will not hold and it should not be a principle. its and the tank does not always hold

[Tjumenec72]

at a decent speed with these "ears"

[demon ada]

I think that it is necessary to buy foreign equipment to a limited extent
including technology purchase
or at worst buy foreign equipment manufactured only in Russia (at least under license)
As such technology we do not need (foreign)
we need technology

[Anatoly]

I agree. On the example of the same China. - Learn, analyze, improve, develop your own.
You can’t go far at Soviet school alone and pride.

[Tjumenec72]

The most important thing is that as with the Lada did not work)))
we already bought from the Italians together with the factory)))

[Mesniy]

and what are you against Lada - in 70 years for our Lada was a miracle, more desirable than now a foreign car.

[Tjumenec72]

keyword WAS

[Vulkan raven]

Another thing is the technology that we are not able to do (electronics, thermal imagers, etc.). Another thing is armored cars.

There are already analogues "no worse".

[AleksUkr]

No matter how we talk about the betrayal of officials purchasing foreign equipment and weapons, nothing will change, at least as long as the tandem is in power. How many times have they already said about Taburetkin that he is being fired, and he is steering. He was echoed by our high-ranking, or perhaps not quite ours, military men. No one has yet canceled corruption and all kinds of kickbacks.

[Punch 2011]

Do you believe that new ones will bring order? I doubt it very much.

[Kyrgyz]

but is there a civilian easier with a diesel automatic transmission and a pleasant interior?

[desava]

I am sure that if not yet, then it will certainly be. There is a demand for such a machine. That's just, I feel, its value will be ..... solid.

[Joker]

Almost there, but there the price is 3 000 000 and higher, I think it's too much.

[mark021105]

bust? for armor and bulletproof glass?

[Joker]

Civilian option from 3 000 000 p. without reservation

[Vulkan raven]

New. There are second-hand and cheaper, less than 2x millions.

[stas52]

http://www.zr.ru/a/13564/
http://www.zr.ru/a/102292/
http://www.zr.ru/a/124812/
http://www.zr.ru/a/121636/
Here about the civilian versions

[desava]

If I had the opportunity - I would surely have acquired it. I have a weakness for such trucks)))

[mark021105]

Apparently, the Kyrgyz wants to acquire ... :-)

[Mesniy]

buy BRDM, for any cooler, and you can buy

[desava]

What the hell is BRDM? I’m not going to force the river. And the review is a little better than in the tank ... But this crocodile is even nothing!

[Vulkan raven]

The BRDM-2 is heavier and on an outdated chassis from the GAZ-63 / 66.

The Civil Tiger weighs from 4650 to 5300kg, and it has a chassis from the BTR-80.

[desava]

I mean BRDM - the combat vehicle is unambiguous (there is a variant of fire and police use), and the Tigrischa looks very good (hypothetically) in a purely civilian version.

[Mesniy]

it looks better than the BRDM, it’s not a question, but it swims, you can fish in it, swim tourists, and climb into the sea, and in the city - that the tiger is the BRDM - it doesn’t pierce like on a truck, and its certification like a truck. Who doesn’t know - category C is needed for a hammer.

[Mesniy]

Well, what do you do with it? Only in the mountains, what’s it, we ride in the UAZ in season, and there are plenty of people who want to
and so in the city it’s troublesome for big ones, you go - you look - subcompacts dive, but I don’t get wet anywhere

[desava]

Do you honestly say or lie?

[Mesniy]

of course honestly, otherwise we'll punish you will be like me in the minuses

[desava]

Career! If she's wrong! I want to "rise" to the actual rank here. Even the excitement started playing
And about the big car - maybe I have complexes. I admit too!
Yes, and the habitat is appropriate, although on the border with Europe, but there are places where you can’t penetrate the Zhigulenka.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Well, who else has doubts about the effectiveness of tiger shouts personally, I have a few complaints about the lack of a bovine module with a night and thermal imaging channel around the cabin. Replacing the casing, it wears out quickly and there are still a few points, but they are very controversial

[Artemka]

Our alternative to Hammer, that's just much better. And the guys were of course very lucky.

[bober]

you fuckers or what? the car saved that the grenades didn’t explode. if they exploded, I would have seen the results.

[L. konstantin]

Do not misunderstand me! but I also thought about it! and if they would rush !?

[stas52]

If the grenades exploded, then there would be nothing left inside, as well as on any other equipment. Any equipment, be it an armored car, armored personnel carrier or tank, etc., and of any country, is not intended for explosions inside the cabin and is not designed for a grenade or shell to fly into an open door or hatch. Much more important is the information that the machine gun did not break through glass or armor, contrary to many sobs on this site that even the AK pierces it through and through (read comments to earlier articles about the tiger).

[L. konstantin]

stas52,

so here the main machine gun or what? it’s praised that two whole missiles went in and ricocheted around the cabin for a walk and lay down to sleep! but it was promoted as if the armor had worked in their failure! show me a photo where they hit it with direct fire from an RPG. then I will evaluate and say that yes the car is super! and the machine gun can withstand Mercedes Putin!
By the way, Shevornadze was shot from a fly by his gelding, he stood in front of it only!

[Sergh]

Checking the video.

[Sergh]

Checking the video.

[Kazak_30]

great car !!!
To what extent in our country they love to find their good and praise the bad, but not ours, to heaven! I do not argue that the Hammer is a great car but it is outdated, the lynx and even more so the bear is much better and there are more than enough opportunities to upgrade!

[RUSICH]

Hello everyone! I have a lot of videos where the Tiger competes with Iveco. There are stories of guys who fought on the Tiger-Iveco before him. At the exhibition of special vehicles, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs went right to the Tiger without even looking at Iveco !!! Most likely, Mr. Serdyukov had bakshish from a contract with Iveco.