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Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant presented an armored bulldozer

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To solve some problems in the conditions of a military conflict, the army requires not only military, but also special engineering equipment. At the same time, such machines must have the necessary protection, allowing them to work in difficult conditions without risking the crew. At the recent exhibition Russia Arms Expo 2015 a new format of such equipment was presented, which is able to interest the domestic and foreign military. Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (ChTZ-Uraltrak) showed a prototype model of a promising protected bulldozer БХNUMXМ10СЗ-Е2.5000Н, adapted for work in difficult conditions.


Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, part of the corporation "Uralvagonzavod", is engaged in the construction of tractors, bulldozers and other special equipment of various classes. In the near future, the range of mass-produced equipment can be supplemented with a new engineering vehicle for the armed forces. The B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н protected bulldozer was developed on the basis of the B10М2 serial and differs from it in a number of new design elements. Due to the redesigned hull, allegedly, it was possible to protect the driver-operator from bullets and shell fragments.

Presented in Nizhny Tagil machine is a full-scale layout, suitable for use in various tests. For a number of specific reasons, this bulldozer received a new hull, made of non-armored steel. Thus, the existing prototype machine B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н does not have the serious protection provided by the project, however, it can be used in tests and show its capabilities. Naturally, in the case of receiving an order, CTZ will begin assembling armored steel hulls.

Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant presented an armored bulldozer
General view of the bulldozer БХNUMXМ10СЗ-Е2.5000Н


The B10М2 traction class 10 bulldozer became the basis for a promising engineering machine. The B10М2 bulldozer is built on the basis of the Т10М2 crawler tractor. This machine is offered in several versions, differing in the type of power plant, as well as some other units. At the request of the customer, the base bulldozer can be equipped with various equipment designed to solve various tasks.

With an engine tractor power 180 or 190 hp Hydromechanical transmission mates with a three-wheel single-stage torque converter and a three-speed planetary reversing gearbox. The chassis is equipped with six track rollers on each side, combined into one carriage with a three-point suspension. With the base 2,88 m and the width of the caterpillar 0,5 m, the specific pressure of the base tractor Т10М2 is at the level of 0,055 MPa.

Depending on the composition of the special equipment, the length of the БХNUMXМ10 bulldozer can exceed 2 m, the width of the tracks - 6,6 m, height - more than 2,3 m. The weight of the machine depends on the model and set of attachments. Usually this parameter exceeds 3,4-16 t.

In the basic configuration, the Chelyabinsk bulldozer is equipped with a relatively light unprotected case, which protects the units and the operator from external influences. For the convenience of the operator, the cabin is equipped with double glazed windows, a heater / fan, a sprung adjustable seat, sun blinds and other equipment. In addition, an ergonomic dashboard and convenient controls for the machine and special equipment are provided.

Since the B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н bulldozer should work in combat conditions, ChTZ specialists developed a new armored corps, designed to protect the operator and the machine’s units from firing from small weapons and detonation of explosive devices. In fact, the native body of the tractor / bulldozer is completely dismantled and instead it is proposed to install new units made of armored steel and bulletproof glass.

Protection of the original design is installed on all major components of the bulldozer. The power plant, the cabin and the frame of the machine are covered with armor plates or laminated glass. The engine and part of the transmission units located next to it are protected by a rectangular armored casing made of several main parts. Instead of a frontal sheet, a two-part grid for cooling the engine is used. The upper part is made in the form of unregulated blinds, the bottom - a metal grid.

The engine has vertical side plates with a sloping rear end. Due to the narrowing of the engine casing in the rear, the side service hatches have two lids of complex shape. One of these covers is attached to a vertical sheet, the second is located in an inclined cutout. On top of the engine is protected by a flat sheet, located with a slight slope on the nose.


Basic bulldozer БХNUMXМ10


In the new project of the armored bulldozer БХNUMXМ10СЗЗ-Е2.5000Н a serious redesign of the operator’s cabin design was proposed. To ensure the required level of protection while maintaining an acceptable weight, it was decided to abandon the rectangular design, introducing several oblique panels. In particular, because of this, instead of a large vertical windshield, the operator has a relatively small window installed at an inclination directly behind the bonnet. Above the window are two headlights designed to illuminate the working area.

The new cabin received large sloping zygomatic sheets, also performing the functions of side doors. The operator can get into the cab on the right and on the left. In this case, the hinges are located in the rear of the door, because of what they open by turning sideways-back. To improve visibility at the top of the door there is a rectangular window. Another glass of the same shape is inclined at the front lower edge of the door. To a certain extent, the lower glasses compensate for the absence of a full-fledged glazing used on the base dozer.

Behind the doors are vertical sides with windows. Aft cabin is made of several sheets: vertical upper and lower, as well as an inclined middle. A window with a wiper is provided in the top sheet. Also installed on it the second pair of headlights. The specific design of the aft cabin, apparently, is associated with the need to reduce the weight of the structure while ensuring sufficient internal volumes to accommodate all the necessary units.

On the roof of the cabin there is a box-like unit, probably representing a hatch cover. In this case, in some situations, the operator gets the opportunity to get out of the car, even with locked doors.

According to the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, the new B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н bulldozer will be protected from small arms bullets and artillery shell fragments. However, accurate data on the level of protection is not available. The thickness of the armor and glass has not yet been clarified. Protection from the most common types of small arms will likely be provided.

A sample of a promising engineering machine presented at the recent RAE-2015 exhibition has received bulldozer and ripping equipment. In front of the shown machine B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н a hemispherical increased dozer blade of the type "Е1", manufactured by the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, was installed. The body of this blade is pivotally connected to two support beams, mounted on the bogies of the chassis of the base tractor. The equipment includes several hydraulic cylinders designed to change the position of the blade. In this case, the blade is lifted and tilted hydraulically, and the cutting angle is adjusted by a screw diagonal.

According to the manufacturer, the “E1” type dump consists of three sections: hemispherical central and curved side. In addition, an additional plate is mounted on the upper edge of the central section, increasing the overall height of the structure. The E1 dozer blade has a width of 3,31 m and a height of 1,5 m. The volume of the drawing prism reaches the 5,85 cube. The total weight of the blade and the equipment connected to it is 2,61 t.


Side view


Also, the exhibition protected bulldozer received loosening equipment of type OR10H. A single-tooth device of parallelogram type with hydraulic drives is intended for loosening soils of various categories, including rock-folding. The kit with a total weight of 1,72 t provides loosening of the soil to a depth of 650 mm and has three settings for the depth of loosening.

The base bulldozer БХNUMXМ10 has universal mounts for mounting attachments. For this reason, the B2М10СЗ-Е2.5000Н engineering machine can be equipped not only with a blade and a ripper. Probably, at the request of the customer, such engineering equipment can be produced in other configurations that meet the requirements.

At a recent exhibition, a mockup of an engineering vehicle without armor protection was shown. A full-fledged armored bulldozer of a new model may appear later if any customer shows his interest in such a technique. According to the press service of the CTZ, the proposed bulldozer has already interested the representatives of some foreign countries. In the foreseeable future, this may lead to the appearance of a contract for the supply of production equipment.

It is reported that during the exhibition, representatives of India, Iran, Kazakhstan and other foreign countries were interested in the B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н machine. In addition, representatives of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant have already held talks with potential customers. With whom exactly the negotiations were conducted, and what questions were discussed on them, it is not specified. They also talked about the interest in the bulldozer shown by potential Russian customers.

At the moment, a promising protected bulldozer for engineering troops B10М2.5000СЗ-Е1Н exists only in the form of a mock-up sample with a full set of attachments, but without armor. Some potential customers have already become interested in such equipment, but, as far as we know, not a single contract for its supply has been signed yet. However, negotiations on the sale of bulldozers may continue in the near future, which will lead to the appearance of appropriate orders.


On the materials of the sites:
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http://vestnik-rm.ru/
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  1. kobussubok
    kobussubok 25 September 2015 06: 46 New
    10
    Chelyabinsk bulldozers and bulldozers are the most ... Well, you understand))) In general, class!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 25 September 2015 08: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: kobussubok
      Chelyabinsk bulldozers and bulldozers are the most ..

      Not only smile
      1. Darkmor
        Darkmor 25 September 2015 11: 53 New
        13
        And what they do not like the engineering car of a rake?
        Why book a bulldozer when there is already an armored tank with a specialized blade, and in addition with an arrow?
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 September 2015 12: 19 New
          -11
          Quote: Darkmor
          And what they do not like the engineering car of a rake?
          Why book a bulldozer when there is already an armored tank with a specialized blade, and in addition with an arrow?

          A simple landmine will turn it into a mass grave.
          1. Irkutian
            Irkutian 25 September 2015 16: 11 New
            +6
            But the bulldozer will not turn?
          2. Firstvanguard
            Firstvanguard 25 September 2015 19: 32 New
            +2
            A simple landmine will turn it into a mass grave.

            Come on! But the bulldozer will not turn? Oh yes, not to the fraternal, but simply to the grave, you probably had that in mind?
            1. Professor
              Professor 25 September 2015 20: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: Firstvanguard
              Come on! But the bulldozer will not turn? Oh yes, not to the fraternal, but simply to the grave, you probably had that in mind?

              Oddly enough, there were no fatalities in the D-9 landmines. But how many land mines he trodden, can’t be counted.
    2. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 25 September 2015 09: 38 New
      +6
      In my opinion, poor protection of hydraulic cylinders and hoses on the blade, and the mirror on the rods will not last long.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 25 September 2015 10: 29 New
        0
        First experience. "Severe Chelyabinsk character." hi
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 September 2015 15: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: sir.jonn
        In my opinion, poor protection of hydraulic cylinders and hoses on the blade, and the mirror on the rods will not last long.

        I support. Here is a car where everything is thought out. (clickable)
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 25 September 2015 21: 07 New
          0
          This is a car a class above, there is a motor of 500-600 hp.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 25 September 2015 21: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            This is a car a class above, there is a motor of 500-600 hp.

            D9R - the most modern armored bulldozer in service with the Israeli army. This bulldozer weighing 71.5 tons is driven by a 474 hp engine. The crew consists of two people - the driver and commander.
        2. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 26 September 2015 16: 33 New
          +1

          beautiful machine, I just remember a comparison of the times of WWII 34 with the German "zoo", who and how won the war, I think no need to explain

          if this superpelazel costs as 20-30 armored B10M2 then he nafig not
      3. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 25 September 2015 23: 06 New
        0
        Quote: sir.jonn
        In my opinion, poor protection of hydraulic cylinders and hoses on the blade, and the mirror on the rods will not last long.



        HER, it seems, not at all.
  2. kobussubok
    kobussubok 25 September 2015 06: 48 New
    +5
    I think that in Ukraine ditches will be dug, and we will bury them (along with shovels and capons)
  3. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 25 September 2015 06: 59 New
    +7
    After the Israelis, there is nothing to do in this market.
    1. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 25 September 2015 07: 04 New
      +4
      This is my caterpillar!
      1. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 25 September 2015 07: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: 78bor1973
        This is my caterpillar!


        He is! Brutal handsome! fellow good
      2. Professor
        Professor 25 September 2015 08: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: 78bor1973
        This is my caterpillar!

        This is not just Caterpillar, this is D-9. A ride once. Impressions that you ride in the house.

        Quote: Bayonet
        By the way, the Israelis are releasing an “unmanned” version of this armored bulldozer.



        D-9 is also equipped with KAZ soft kil.


        PS
        In Lebanon, the D-9 hit a land mine weighing more than a hundred kilograms and ... the D-9's engine stalled.

        PPP
        There is also such an option:
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 25 September 2015 10: 11 New
          14
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: 78bor1973
          This is my caterpillar!
          This is not just Caterpillar, this is D-9. A ride once. Impressions that you ride in the house.

          Quote: Bayonet
          By the way, the Israelis are releasing an “unmanned” version of this armored bulldozer



          in the USSR, there was an unmanned bulldozer, they were used during the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident !!!! Israel had nothing like that at the time ....

          radio-controlled bulldozer DET-250М, worked at the fourth Chernobyl power unit



          For this, they destroyed the USSR, which they now "admired" Israel and SySyA
          1. Professor
            Professor 25 September 2015 10: 14 New
            -17
            Quote: cosmos111
            in the USSR, there was an unmanned bulldozer, they were used in the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident in 1984 !!!! Israel had nothing like that at the time ....

            Well? How many unmanned bulldozers in the Russian army?

            PS
            The Americans made the unmanned tank EMNIP back in the 1950s. request
            1. insafufa
              insafufa 25 September 2015 10: 28 New
              15
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: cosmos111
              in the USSR, there was an unmanned bulldozer, they were used in the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident in 1984 !!!! Israel had nothing like that at the time ....

              Well? How many unmanned bulldozers in the Russian army?

              PS
              The Americans made the unmanned tank EMNIP back in the 1950s. request


              Teletank (abbreviated as TT) is a tank without a crew, controlled from a distance.
              Then there was no mention of Israel
              In 1929-1930, the Soviet Union tested the modified French light tank Renault-FT, on which telecontrol equipment was installed. After the tests, it was decided on the advisability of continuing the development of the topic of remote control over the air.
              1. Professor
                Professor 25 September 2015 12: 16 New
                -10
                Quote: insafufa
                Teletank (abbreviated as TT) is a tank without a crew, controlled from a distance.
                Then there was no mention of Israel
                In 1929-1930, the Soviet Union tested the modified French light tank Renault-FT, on which telecontrol equipment was installed. After the tests, it was decided on the advisability of continuing the development of the topic of remote control over the air.

                How did I forget about Teletank? repeat

                The question is valid: How many unmanned bulldozers are in the Russian army? wink
                1. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 25 September 2015 12: 44 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  How many unmanned bulldozers in the Russian army?


                  I do not know for sure request ... but, I think, NOT ONE ... BYE ((there will be an order for the MO, there will be an unmanned bulldozer)))
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 25 September 2015 12: 47 New
                    +3
                    Quote: cosmos111
                    I don’t know for sure ... but, I think, NOT ONE ... FOR now ((there will be an order for the MO, there will be an unmanned bulldozer)))

                    I have no doubt in the technological capabilities of Russia to produce such devices. I doubt the ability of the MO to make such a decision. The soldier is cheaper.
                    1. cosmos111
                      cosmos111 25 September 2015 13: 15 New
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      MO ability to make a similar decision. The soldier is cheaper.

                      YES PROFF IS THE MAIN THING !!!

                      Russia is strengthening its presence in Syria, and there are land mines ((Afghanistan, Chechnya))), suicide bombers ...

                      and not any combined-arms operations, special forces will have to act, with the support of the Air Force and IFs with UAVs ... traveling considerable distances ...

                      General Staff Airborne Forces BMD-3,4, BTR "Shell", AT are not needed for such a war !!!
                      at the BTR-80 / 82 marines, WITHOUT ANTIMINE PROTECTION ???

                      we need a BBM type Supacat-NMT-400,4xNUMX and 4x600,6 ...


                      and the 82 armored personnel carrier, mine protection, like BBT Textron
                      1. Berg berg
                        Berg berg 26 September 2015 01: 09 New
                        0
                        Two suicide bombers on wheels! RPG or sniper and ditch!
                      2. Mwg
                        Mwg 26 September 2015 13: 54 New
                        +1
                        Of course, I apologize, but I used to go through such puddles to the VAZ-2106 calmly at one time, and since, I remember, it was through an ice crossing, into a water rim to the middle of the door, and then up a hill on a rut. And nothing. The doors were opened on the slide, water was drained from the passenger compartment and drove on. So - not impressive !!!
                  2. Bayonet
                    Bayonet 25 September 2015 21: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: cosmos111
                    I don’t know for sure ... but, I think, NOT of one ...

                    How is it that you have not been blamed for such a "heresy" smile ? The professors just fell asleep, for just one question! Or maybe the "fifth column" failed? winked
                    1. Manul
                      Manul 25 September 2015 23: 57 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Bayonet
                      How is it that you were not blamed for such a "heresy"? The professors just fell asleep, for just one question! Or maybe the "fifth column" failed?

                      Just unlike some people, they are not mocking at anyone, and are not honest at anything, honest and correct. It's all about sincerity.
                      1. Bayonet
                        Bayonet 26 September 2015 07: 08 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Manul
                        It's all about sincerity.

                        Was the Professor not sincere when he asked a simple question? It seems to me the whole point is in this notorious "fifth column" wink
                      2. Mwg
                        Mwg 26 September 2015 13: 45 New
                        0
                        Fifth Count! forget about it. The point is the sincerity of declaring personal attitudes, the presence or absence of a substitution of concepts and the absence of artificial bias in assessing real facts. The professor deliberately skews reality (but he is a very smart and educated citizen), but for what purpose, this is a question.
              2. Mwg
                Mwg 26 September 2015 13: 34 New
                0
                Proffessor, you are in your role - a dispute for the sake of the argument "we are cooler." Do you want to talk about expediency? You have something to demolish there with such tractors, but we have nothing here. We are not fighting over land for anyone. Tractors can’t demolish anyone’s house. Accordingly, desperate owners of houses do not shoot at us and do not mine the paths of tractors. Ergo - we don’t need such kind of goods en masse
                1. Professor
                  Professor 26 September 2015 13: 38 New
                  0
                  Quote: MVG
                  Proffessor, you are in your role - a dispute for the sake of the argument "we are cooler." Do you want to talk about expediency? You have something to demolish there with such tractors, but we have nothing here.

                  valerik, but will you clear the route from the landmines?

                  Quote: MVG
                  We are not fighting over land for anyone. Tractors can’t demolish anyone’s house.

                  lol

                  Quote: MVG
                  Accordingly, desperate owners of houses do not shoot at us and do not mine the paths of tractors. Ergo - we don’t need such kind of goods en masse

                  you tell the mothers of those killed in Chechnya. They will believe you.
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 25 September 2015 15: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: insafufa
              In 1929-1930, the Soviet Union tested the modified French light tank Renault-FT, on which telecontrol equipment was installed.

              In 1921, at the direction of the government, the Ostekhbyuro was organized — the Special Technical Bureau under the Supreme Economic Council of the RSFSR — Vladimir Ivanovich Bekauri was appointed its head. Under his leadership, the Ostekhbyuro became the largest center for the development of areas of important defense significance. He oversaw and personally participated in various bureau projects: mine-torpedo weapons, remote control systems, radio-controlled mines, etc. The work of the Ostekhbyuro can be found here http://www.bratishka.ru/archiv/2011/2/2011_2_17. php
              He was arrested in 1937 and shot on February 8, 1938 by grateful compatriots on charges of spying for Germany. By the decision of the Supreme Court of the USSR of June 9, 1956, he was rehabilitated.
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 25 September 2015 21: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Well? How many unmanned bulldozers in the Russian army?

            Yes, not at all. Therefore, 12 people (at the moment) poured out their righteous anger in the form of minuses, on the head of an innocent professor. As they say:
            - Who fucked up ???
            - Daughter!
            1. Manul
              Manul 26 September 2015 00: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Bayonet
              Yes, not at all. Therefore, 12 people (at the moment) poured out their righteous anger in the form of minuses, on the head of an innocent professor. As they say:
              - Who fucked up ???
              - Daughter!

              The fact is, when voices from the Jordan are heard, I immediately remember the good old joke - A man near a closed beer stall - “No, just to write -“ No beer. ”So no, they’ll write“ Piii-and-and-and-and- in-a-ahhh it - e-ee-EET !!! "
          3. bmv04636
            bmv04636 26 September 2015 19: 00 New
            +1
            The praised Western and Japanese robots refused to work near the reactor
        2. shans2
          shans2 25 September 2015 12: 55 New
          +3
          The Japanese still have nothing but dolls for consumer goods, although they shouted most about Chernobyl, and they crap with Fukushima so that they still don’t know what to do with it, there were no vaunted kamikaze, robots and radio-controlled platforms for eliminating the consequences too
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 25 September 2015 08: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: 78bor1973
      This is my caterpillar!

      The unique bulldozer IDF Caterpillar D9R, nicknamed the "teddy bear" is in service with the Israeli army and is used to resolve conflicts with the Palestinians. A heavy armored tracked armored car is used to demolish buildings in which armed people settled. In addition, relatives of people suspected of having links with Palestinian militias are demolished at home with his help. The bulldozer has 15-ton armor, glasses that can withstand shelling from any small arms and grenade launchers, protective screens against RPGs. In addition, IDF Caterpillar D9R can be equipped with additional attachments (smoke screen system, machine gun and grenade launcher), which can be controlled directly from the cab. The crew of the bulldozer consists of two people, and none of the guns available to Palestine is capable of stopping it. Even the powerful landmines that were set in the way of the "teddy bear" could not inflict any tangible damage on him.
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  5. Tanker55
    Tanker55 25 September 2015 07: 38 New
    0
    We need to compare prices and draw conclusions. Definitely so I would not say.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 25 September 2015 09: 47 New
      0
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      After the Israelis, there is nothing to do in this market.



      Well, of course????

      fewer bureaucrats / effective managers- MORE engineers and skilled workers .... and, at US, everything will be at the loss of world standards ....

      and the idea of ​​using armored bulldozers is quite old, the Israelis only modernized and developed this idea !!!!!

      a D7 bulldozer from the 237-th engineering battalion of the U.S. 1-th Army frees up the road by pulling the German Pz.Kpfw tank to the sidelines. VI Ausf ...
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 25 September 2015 09: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      After the Israelis, there is nothing to do in this market.



      Well, of course????

      fewer bureaucrats / effective managers- MORE engineers and skilled workers .... and, at US, everything will be at the loss of world standards ....

      and the idea of ​​using armored bulldozers is quite old, the Israelis only modernized and developed this idea !!!!!

      a D7 bulldozer from the 237-th engineering battalion of the U.S. 1-th Army frees up the road by pulling the German Pz.Kpfw tank to the sidelines. VI Ausf ...
      1. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 25 September 2015 11: 28 New
        0
        Quote: cosmos111
        Well, of course????


        Well, this phrase is hard to pronounce with a questioning intonation. But with an exclamation point (!) Just right by the way. laughing

        Quote: cosmos111
        Quote: DEMENTIY
        After the Israelis, there is nothing to do in this market.


        fewer bureaucrats / effective managers- MORE engineers and skilled workers .... and, at US, everything will be at the loss of world standards ...


        Very possible. But here I think the production traditions, experience, and a whole bunch of everything still play. This is about how to get a bunch of dough in the "Russian perfume industry"! You can go broke, but France does not jump! lol
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 25 September 2015 12: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: DEMENTIY
          . This is about how to get a bunch of dough in the "Russian perfume industry"!

          and here, I will NOT agree with you ...
          And, why, in quotation marks, the USSR has an excellent perfume firm Dzintars Latvian SSR

          after shave cream with vitamin F "factory" Freedom "Moscow., still use. good ..
          1. DEMENTIY
            DEMENTIY 25 September 2015 13: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: cosmos111
            and here, I will NOT agree with you ...


            Andrew! sad Well this is not serious! Dzintars and I used ... But like the USSR, it has been gone for a long time (together with the Latvian SSR). It’s like shouting now that in drones we are ahead of the rest and arguing with “Buran” (really the biggest and “coolest” drone was! Already flew into space! fellow )! At the same time, forgetting that now is not the 84 year and we are living in a different country, and doubts are beating that we will pull such a project ...
            Yours! hi
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 25 September 2015 17: 13 New
              0
              Quote: DEMENTIY
              84 year and in the country we live different


              I, about this and posted Dmitry ...

              the rest is dreams and wishes .... as the name of the film "REMEMBERING THE FUTURE" crying

              have a nice one you too hi
  6. Manul
    Manul 25 September 2015 23: 51 New
    0
    Quote: DEMENTIY
    After the Israelis there is nothing to do in this market.

    And why do not we develop our best practices in this direction? Do not meet tea for bulldozers on the battlefield, and do not arrange disassembly using dumps ?!
  • inkass_98
    inkass_98 25 September 2015 07: 50 New
    0
    The machine is interesting, but still the hydraulic hoses in the armored version are not protected in any way, which is not good. In the photo with the “Caterpillar” such a miscalculation is not visible (maybe because of a different angle), so this point needs to be finalized.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 25 September 2015 08: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: inkass_98
      armored hydraulic hoses are not protected in any way

      So they don’t seem to be visible! (Clickable)
      1. pomegranate
        pomegranate 25 September 2015 11: 18 New
        +1
        I think it meant B10M2.5000SZ-E1N
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 25 September 2015 16: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: pomegranate
          I think it meant B10M2.5000SZ-E1N

          If so, then yes! Everything is in sight - no protection.hi
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 25 September 2015 08: 00 New
    +3
    By the way, the Israelis are releasing an “unmanned” version of this armored bulldozer. As in the case of flying drones, in that direction Israel was ahead of the rest. Such machines are used in IDF along with "inhabited" bulldozers. Being equipped with several video cameras, such a device provides the operator with even better visibility, compared to the usual D9. But the most important thing is that the operator is not exposed to danger, unlike the driver of the regular version. Our developers should also consider this.
  • Owl
    Owl 25 September 2015 09: 39 New
    +4
    Hydraulics and engine must be covered with armor. Plan the installation of cumulative gratings in advance. All protection should be in the supply chain, there have already been cases when the rear economists, to reduce costs and, as a result, to receive premiums, “cut” the degree of protection and equipment, and then the soldiers risked it.
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 25 September 2015 09: 52 New
    -7
    Jewish laurels haunt? laughing
  • vlad7777kul
    vlad7777kul 25 September 2015 12: 42 New
    -10
    GDP will disperse such meetings. I let a couple and there are no problems.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 25 September 2015 17: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: Vlad7777kul
      GDP will disperse such meetings. I let a couple and there are no problems.


      He invented the GDP and the nuclear bomb! For the same purposes ...

      laughing
  • van zai
    van zai 25 September 2015 13: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Darkmor
    And what they do not like the engineering car of a rake?
    Why book a bulldozer when there is already an armored tank with a specialized blade, and in addition with an arrow?

    Cost. Yes. IMR is more effective, but at times more expensive. And it’s not always the same technique to work only at the forefront. In the near rear, too, enough work. But for such matters a bulldozer is also needed.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 September 2015 14: 03 New
    0
    Honestly, I don’t understand what is the problem? Buy 10 bulldozers in Israel and do something similar. In any case, the base is the Bulldozer!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 25 September 2015 16: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Honestly, I don’t understand what is the problem? Buy 10 bulldozers in Israel and do something similar

      Pride does not allow steep Chelyabinsk guys!smile
  • APASUS
    APASUS 25 September 2015 19: 44 New
    +2
    The hydraulic cylinder does not have protection at all, it is connected via a rubber hose. Not the most powerful option was selected, it may not have enough engine power for certain tasks. It seems that only the cabin has a reservation.
    In short, you need to work and work again, you can learn from Israel
  • rehev931
    rehev931 25 September 2015 22: 32 New
    +2
    I saw this car in action in Ramallah - impressive to say the least ...
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: sir.jonn
    In my opinion, poor protection of hydraulic cylinders and hoses on the blade, and the mirror on the rods will not last long.

    I support. Here is a car where everything is thought out. (clickable)
  • kav669
    kav669 26 September 2015 00: 43 New
    0
    Why to compare an engineering tractor with a tank. everything can be destroyed, but it is for other purposes.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 26 September 2015 05: 23 New
    -2
    Frank bullshit, like all its products, can not create good tractors and climbed into the defense industry, I want to spit. In America, a guy himself hung 20 tons of armor in a shed on KAMATSUHU, and he smashed the floor of the city. Really do not understand why all this is necessary? Tank-based engineering vehicles are better in my opinion. only the engine and gearbox need to be converted to tractor ones. I want to do this.