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New information about the heavy BMP T-15 "Armata"

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Currently, Uralvagonzavod Corporation and related enterprises continue to work on the project of the unified heavy tracked platform Armata. The aim of this project is to create a universal heavy-class chassis that can be used as the basis for armored vehicles of various classes. The plans of the military department and the defense industry create the main tank, heavy infantry fighting vehicle, armored recovery and recovery vehicle, command and staff vehicle and other equipment.


The first official demonstration of the T-9 tank and the heavy BMP T-14 based on the Armata platform took place at the 15 Victory Parade in May. By this time some information about the project had already been published. In addition, a few weeks before the parade, the first photos and videos of the new equipment were captured. However, developers and the military are still in no hurry to disclose the details of new projects. Due to the importance and novelty of the Armat project, most of the information about it is still classified.


BMP T-15 "Armata". Photo by Vitaly V. Kuzmin / Wikimedia Commons


A few days ago, experts and interested public had the opportunity to learn some new facts about a promising project. TV channel "Star" showed a new edition of the program "Military Acceptance" called "Armata -" terra incognita. As the name implies, the theme of the program was the Armat project. As part of the program, defense industry experts and authors revealed some details of the unified platform project and three vehicles based on it - the T-14 tank, the heavy-duty BMP T-15 and the BREM T-16.

The journalists of the Zvezda channel revealed some details of the three projects, and also showed promising cars from different angles, and not only the external aggregates of the machines, but also part of the interiors were in the frame. Thus, only one TV program was able to significantly replenish the “bank” of the available information on a promising project.

Recall what information about the heavy BMP T-15 was available until recently. The first information about the possible appearance of a heavy-duty infantry fighting vehicle unified with promising tanks appeared a few years ago. The start of such a project was justified by the need to create a BMP with a high level of protection capable of working in the same combat formations with tanks. The main features of the new car, from the used chassis to the instrumentation and armament, are connected with this requirement.


Transportation power unit platform "Armata" in the shop of the plant. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


For a long time it became known that the promising BMP is built on the basis of the chassis, similar to the tank, but with some noticeable changes. To meet the basic requirements of the customer, it was decided to “deploy” the base chassis of the Armata platform backwards. Due to this, the engine was in front of the hull, and a large volume in the stern was given for the placement of troops. In addition, some adjustments were made to the hull structure.

Perspective heavy BMP can be equipped with various combat modules with remote control. At the same time, however, so far all the observed samples carried only the Epoch system with machine-gun, cannon and rocket weapons. Perhaps in the future there will be other modifications of this car with another weapons.

The journalists of the TV channel “Zvezda” in their recent program revealed some details of the T-15 project. Not all information of public interest has been announced due to the secrecy of the project. Nevertheless, the published data perfectly complement the current picture, and are also an excellent reason for new discussions and disputes.


Installing the power unit in the body of the armored vehicle. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


The essence of the Armata project is to create a unified heavy tracked platform on the basis of which various types of combat vehicles can be built. The platform used as the basis for different vehicles, has a unified body, power plant and chassis. This approach allows us to simplify the production of equipment of different classes, as well as to provide all new machines with high enough characteristics.

As already mentioned, the BMP T-15 chassis is actually a rear-facing T-14 chassis with corresponding modifications. As a result of such a change, the power plant of the vehicle is placed in the front of the hull, thereby releasing a large volume for accommodating the landing force and providing the most convenient and safe way of its landing through the stern ramp.

For the first time in domestic practice, armored vehicles receive a single power unit. The engine and transmission are assembled as a single unit, which is placed in the engine compartment of the machine. This approach to the design of the power plant allows you to simplify the assembly and repair of machines. Defense industry experts note that the replacement of the power unit, regardless of the existing conditions, takes no more than a few hours, while similar operations with “traditional” separated units can stretch for several days.


Exhaust additional power unit. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


The basis of the power unit of the Armata platform is a multi-fuel X-shaped engine. Its power is still a secret, but it is argued that in this parameter the new engine surpasses all of the power plants of existing domestic tanks. Thus, the power of the engine "Armata" exceeds 1500 hp

The most important feature of the power unit, which favorably distinguishes it from the existing technology, is the reverse gearbox. This unit provides 8 for forward gears and 8 for reverse. As a result, the combat vehicle is able to move with equal speed both forward and backward. In addition, the available information on the gearbox suggests that the power units of the T-14 tank and the heavy BMP T-15 differ in their basic mode of operation: due to the “mirror” location of the unified power unit, the forward gear of the tank provides for the reverse of the infantry vehicle and vice versa .

The power plant of the BMP T-15 and, obviously, the tank T-14 is equipped with an auxiliary power unit. Auxiliary power plant, apparently, is designed to supply on-board systems with electricity when the main engine is off. Such equipment allows the use of all on-board systems without increased fuel consumption.


Stand for test transmissions. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


All cars based on the Armata platform receive a unified undercarriage. In its composition there are seven road wheels with independent torsion bar suspension on each side. In addition, in the early photographic materials it was clear that, at a minimum, the front two pairs of heavy BMP rollers are equipped with additional shock absorbers. When used as a basis for the T-15, the undercarriage retains some features related to the distribution of the load on the bearing surface. For this reason, the gaps between the rear three pairs of rollers are larger than in the case with the others. Due to the specific layout of the infantry fighting vehicle, drive wheels with lanterning gear are located in front of the hull. Guides, in turn, are in the feed.

The heavy-duty infantry fighting vehicle T-15 has tank defense systems that are standardized with the tank. In order to increase survivability on the battlefield, it was proposed to use a whole range of various means, from special active systems to the corps' own armor. Due to this, the BMP receives a "multi-layered" defense, able to withstand threats of a different nature at different stages of the enemy attack.


Computer simulation of the behavior of the suspension tank on rough terrain. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


The information about the unification of active remedies made public by the Zvezda channel makes it possible to draw some conclusions. If the tank and the BMP use the same set of active protection means, then there is reason to believe that the crew and the landing forces have a very high chance of accomplishing the combat mission without loss.

From the story of the “Military Acceptance” program about the means of protecting the T-14 tank, it is known that new type of armored vehicles are capable of protecting the crew and units with the help of several systems that solve different tasks. Due to this, it is alleged that the probability of survival on the battlefield of the machine reaches maximum values.

The first means of protecting the tank and, probably, BMP are special hull materials and paint. Their task is to counter enemy radar detection equipment. Thanks to the use of special materials and paint, the probability of detecting a combat vehicle with a subsequent attack is reduced, which makes it difficult or impossible to use various anti-tank systems.


Branch management BMP. On the left is the driver’s workplace, on the right is the commander. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


On the armor of an infantry fighting vehicle T-15 is a set of multispectral threat sensors, the task of which is to constantly monitor the environment. If any threat is detected, the automatics should independently take appropriate measures. So, when detecting radiation from a laser rangefinder or target illumination system, the machine should use smoke grenade launchers. In the direction of the radiation source, a grenade is shot, forming a cloud of smoke with metal particles. Such a smoke screen hides the combat vehicle and does not allow the enemy to continue the attack.

Tank T-14 and, most likely, the BMP T-15 is equipped with a system of electronic warfare, which should disrupt the enemy attack in the final stages. In the case of a successful launch of an anti-tank missile and its successful targeting, the EW system does not allow the guided munition to reach the target. The specific method of such opposition was not specified. In addition, the electronic warfare system is proposed to protect the equipment from mines with electromagnetic fuses.


View of the office of control from the troop compartment. In the background are the commander’s (front) and gunner’s (rear) seats. To the left of the gunner’s seat, there is a small extra seat for the ninth paratrooper. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


The next line of defense is armor and aids. Frontal projection protection T-15 is provided with a special module, made in the form of a triangular frame with protection installed on it. Probably, this unit is equipped with a combined armor, and also receives blocks of dynamic protection. Behind the front module there is an inclined upper frontal part of the case with the corresponding protection indicators.

The onboard projection of the machine is protected by its own body armor, as well as by screens on which the dynamic protection units are mounted, with the units on the sides of the troop compartment having an increased height compared to the others. A curious feature of the protection of the boards are the screens of their front. To ensure the release of exhaust gases from the main and auxiliary power units on the sides of a heavy infantry fighting vehicle, inclined screens are provided, connected to the front hull module. This design gives the car an unusual appearance, as well as visually increases its width. A relatively thin and weak stern ramp for the landing of troops is completely covered by an additional trellis screen.


View of the troop compartment from the stern ramp. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


Behind the front engine compartment in the T-15 is located the office of management with jobs of a crew of three people. At the left side is a driver, to his right - the commander. Behind the commander is the gunner-operator of weapons. The driver's workplace is made the same as in the case of the T-14 tank. The consoles of other crew members have some major differences from the tank. Unlike tankers, all members of the BMP crew have their own hatches in the roof. To monitor the situation, the hatches are equipped with a set of periscopic viewing devices.

The entire aft part of the internal volume of the hull is given under a large troop compartment. Along the sides of the car are eight seats for the soldiers, facing each other. In addition, a light seat for the ninth paratrooper can be mounted in the passage to the control compartment. To facilitate the landing troops seats have a spring-loaded lower part, automatically rising in the absence of load. Thus, after the landing of the fighters sitting closer to the exit, their seats rise and increase the width of the passage for the following soldiers.


Demonstration of the aft door and the embrasure for personal weapons landing. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


To get inside the combat vehicle and get out of her landing should through a large rear hatch with a lowered ramp. At the command of the crew, this unit, with the help of two winches and cables, is lowered to the lower position and serves as a step for convenient disembarkation. The stern ramp provides both ease of disembarkation and safety of fighters. From the shelling in front of them protects the entire body of the BMP, and on the side they are covered with two large onboard units of the body. The stern hatch with a ramp has a fairly large size, which further simplifies the landing. To demonstrate this, the “Military Acceptance” program leader, Alexey Egorov, was near the edge of the hatch, but could not prevent the paratroopers from getting inside the car without any difficulty.

In case of breakdowns of some units, a regular door is provided in the aft ramp. It opens to the left in the direction of travel and allows you to leave the car, even if there is no possibility to lower the main ramp. To protect against various threats in the door there is a ball mount for small arms, which allows shelling a certain sector of the rear hemisphere. Also on the door is fixed lattice screen, so that does not interfere with its opening.


Battle module "Epoch" close-up. Photo by Vitaly V. Kuzmin / Wikimedia Commons


For effective interaction between the crew of the vehicle and the dismounted troops, a small compartment in which the communications equipment is located is provided in the left aft "box". Following the pattern of some of the vehicles of past years, the BMP T-15 received a handset with which the infantry could communicate with the crew of the vehicle and coordinate joint actions.

The T-15 heavy infantry fighting vehicle in the current configuration is equipped with the Epoch remotely controlled combat unit, made in the form of a tower with a set of weapons of various types. An important feature of this system is the placement of all units on the roof of the base machine and outside the habitable volume. The “Epoch” module is designed as a turntable on which the tower of a characteristic shape is located. All units, from weapons to sighting systems, are mounted in a single package.

The BMP T-15 with the Epoch combat module carries the 30-mm automatic gun 2А42, the PKTM machine gun and two launchers with four Kornet guided missiles. Such weapons allow the machine to fight with infantry and unprotected equipment, as well as effectively destroy fortifications and armored vehicles. To control the weapons, the combat module is equipped with two blocks of opto-electronic equipment, with which the commander and the gunner can monitor the situation, detect targets and carry out an attack.


Fighting module, right-back view. Frame from m / n "Military acceptance"


Additional armament of a combat vehicle consists of smoke grenade launchers on the roof of the hull. In addition, in some cases, an embrasure in the aft ramp may be useful. Other devices for firing personal assault weapons are not provided.

Most of the main characteristics of the promising heavy BMP T-15 are not subject to disclosure. Nevertheless, the military recently decided to reveal some details of this project, and also showed the interiors of the new technology. Thanks to the recently published information, the existing picture was supplemented with new details, and specialists and amateurs of military equipment had an excellent opportunity to continue the discussion of promising domestic machines using new information.

According to available data, at present, the specialists of the Uralvagonzavod corporation continue to test new vehicles based on the Armata platform, including the BMP T-15. Tests and improvements of the project should be completed within the next few years, after which an order for the construction of serial equipment may appear. The exact volumes of the future production of T-15 machines have not yet been determined, but preliminary plans have already been announced for the whole family. The current state armament program provides for the construction and transfer to the 2300 armed forces of armored vehicles based on the Armata platform. All these machines must be handed over to the customer before 2020. The exact number of tanks planned for construction, infantry fighting vehicles and other equipment of the family has not yet been specified.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 16 September 2015 06: 40 New
    +26
    Personal opinion.
    BMP T15 - a more thoughtful, in many respects, combat vehicle from the military branch of Almaty, at the moment.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 16 September 2015 08: 19 New
      +4
      I agree with you.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 16 September 2015 09: 40 New
        +9
        It would not be bad if the AU-220 turret with ATGMs appeared on the roof. The car will be just perfect for action in urban conditions, where the road is ordered to ordinary tanks. And BMPT "Terminator" or "Terminator 2" make remotely controlled drones.
        1. Meh-forester
          Meh-forester 16 September 2015 12: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: PROXOR
          It would not be bad if the AU-220 turret with ATGMs appeared on the roof. And make the BMPT Terminator or Terminator 2 remotely controlled drones.

          At the expense of Derevitsia, only FOR, but would add B / C, since there are more places in T15, I would take off the landing and equip places for BMPT and TOS operators in the form of drones, that is, I created the Drones Control Center, the main thing that would be outwardly indistinguishable from linear TBMP ...
          1. bogdan4ik
            bogdan4ik 17 September 2015 13: 58 New
            0
            What kind of nonsense? And what about transmitting and receiving equipment with signal encoders for drones? Each drone has its own kit for a second. And under the power plant what to mask? And where will the general battle control center be and how to link it with your fantasies?
          2. kravch67k
            kravch67k 17 September 2015 19: 51 New
            +3
            STOP PLAYING COMPUTER GAMES
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 16 September 2015 10: 04 New
        +5
        support
    2. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair 16 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +3
      Only individual landing chairs are missing in the event of a mine explosion. Compression leg fractures are inevitable sad
      1. Meh-forester
        Meh-forester 16 September 2015 09: 59 New
        +7
        Quote: ROSS_Ulair
        Only individual landing chairs are missing in the event of a mine explosion. Compression leg fractures are inevitable

        There for each paratrooper there is a place and a deck of a special design, so that the mine protection is very high.
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 16 September 2015 10: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Personal opinion.
      BMP T15 - a more thoughtful, in many respects, combat vehicle from the military branch of Almaty, at the moment.

      It is curious that the USA does not have a light BMP
      Russia - USA
      Heavy Tracked BMP: T-15 - Bradley

      Light tracked infantry fighting vehicles: Kurganets-25- no analogue
      Wheel BTR: Boomerang - Striker.
      1. Falcon
        Falcon 16 September 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
        It is curious that the USA does not have a light BMP
        Russia - USA
        Heavy Tracked BMP: T-15 - Bradley

        Light tracked infantry fighting vehicles: Kurganets-25- no analogue
        Wheel BTR: Boomerang - Striker.


        Why? You're not right.
        Bradley's mass is 22 tons + -, Kurgan mass is 25 tons, BMP-3 is 19 tons.

        Just a class of light infantry fighting vehicles.

        There is a caterpillar striker project, and another easy option in the Ground Combat Vehicle program
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    5. Falcon
      Falcon 16 September 2015 21: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Personal opinion.
      BMP T15 - a more thoughtful, in many respects, combat vehicle from the military branch of Almaty, at the moment.


      Oh, I bet ...
      We saw her moving out of the transport trawl.

      This is the angle of entry for her. and how in the field on bumps? Digging pits


      For comparison, the BMP-3 is much more thoughtful in this regard.



      Or the Israeli alteration of the T-55, also not bad

      1. pv1005
        pv1005 16 September 2015 22: 11 New
        +4
        For comparison, the BMP-3 is much more thoughtful in this regard.


        Are you sure this is a BMP-3? recourse
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 17 September 2015 00: 46 New
        +1
        This is the angle of entry for her. and how in the field on bumps? Digging pits


        on the other hand, a rebound is possible, the thickness of the armor increases, etc., so the question is debatable - what is better than "dumb" and short or sharp and long!
    6. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 16 September 2015 22: 16 New
      +1
      I’m wondering, does all the equipment described on the site really go to the troops? New btr-82, bmp-3, trial lots of Kurgan, typhoon and others, or only a limited series in separate parts?
      1. homedition
        homedition 17 September 2015 09: 59 New
        +1
        BTR-82A and BMP-3 are delivered, Kurganets, Typhoon, Boomerang and Armata have not yet been adopted and are being tested. For review, I recommend the site is doneunas.ru, there news about the supply of new weapons is constantly passing.
  2. qwert
    qwert 16 September 2015 06: 55 New
    0
    The car is thought out, but huge, which is not ice. And apparently expensive, comparable in price to the T-14 tank. The question arises, with the allocation of a not-so-fat budget for the military commissariat, what is better to produce a hundred infantry fighting vehicles or an additional hundred tanks ??? In the USSR, of course, there would be enough funds for both, and Russia would have to choose.

    And so, I like this machine, it is definitely more successful and less controversial than the Armata tank
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 September 2015 07: 06 New
      +16
      Quote: qwert
      The car is thought out, but huge, which is not ice

      With current aiming systems, this is not the most important minus. But the fact that the internal volume is large can play a plus, as one of the factors of passive protection.
      Quote: qwert
      And judging by everything, dear, at a price comparable to the T-14

      And their simultaneous release, respectively, reduce the total cost of their production.
      The appearance of such an infantry fighting vehicle is a requirement of the time, but this does not mean that it should replace all infantry fighting vehicles in our army ...
    2. 0255
      0255 16 September 2015 10: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: qwert
      And so, I like this machine, it is definitely more successful and less controversial than the Armata tank

      And what about the controversial T-14 Armata tank? The fact that the Ukrainian Svidomo couch expert established that the tank is cardboard, and that the APU are destroying "Almaty" on an industrial scale from a single post on Twitter, is it just that they either have their phone discharged or the film lights up?
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 16 September 2015 11: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: 0255
        And what about the controversial T-14 Armata tank? The fact that the Ukrainian Svidomo couch expert established that the tank is cardboard, and that the APU are destroying "Almaty" on an industrial scale from a single post on Twitter, is it just that they either have their phone discharged or the film lights up?

        By the way, yesterday there was news that the T-14 Armata tank is also the cheapest among modern tanks.
        http://russian.rt.com/article/115452
        The price of the 1st tank is 250 million rubles or $ 3,7 million.
        1. yehat
          yehat 17 September 2015 23: 06 New
          0
          the question is very controversial. for example, the Chinese make export vt-4 it seems, which is quite competitive in price.
      2. svp67
        svp67 16 September 2015 15: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: 0255
        And what about the controversial T-14 Armata tank?

        To the offhand - by the presence of TWO hatches for THREE crew members, and the fact that the commander’s hatch leans in the direction where he will have to escape, couldn’t the mech-water and commander hatches be unified?
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 16 September 2015 15: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: 0255
          And what about the controversial T-14 Armata tank?

          Offhand - by the presence of TWO hatches for THREE crew members, and the fact that the commander’s hatch leans in the direction where he will have to escape

          - Well, in the T-55 there were 3 hatches for 4 crew members .. so what? And the commander was sitting "on the shoulders" of the gunner at the same time, EMNIP ..
          - about the hatch - yes it’s normal, in appearance, leans back .. and there is where to "escape". From the tower (the same T-72, 80, 90) - it was all the more difficult to "escape", IMHO ..

          In general - not yet convinced laughing
          1. svp67
            svp67 16 September 2015 20: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Well, in the T-55 there were 3 hatches for 4 crew members .. so what?
            The same is not good. The gunner had few chances for salvation ...
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            about the hatch - yes it's normal, he seems to recline ..

            No, it’s not normal. Previously, the hatch protected the enemy from frontal fire, making it possible to hide behind them in the stern and further to the ground.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 17 September 2015 05: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              No, it’s not normal. Previously, the hatch protected the enemy from frontal fire, making it possible to hide behind them in the stern and further to the ground.

              This is all theory. wink

              - who told you that the fire is only frontal?
              - who told you that you are beaten with nothing but a light rifleman (you can still theoretically go with him for this hatch .. from other things bigger - is already very unlikely)?
              - yes .. damn .. chances to escape - at any location of the hatch - 50: 50
              - that is, either you will be saved or not

              Something like that..
              1. svp67
                svp67 17 September 2015 06: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - who told you that the fire is only frontal?

                You are starting the "talk" topic again. Think what you want. But to block the crew’s ability to quickly leave the starboard side, agree - not good.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 17 September 2015 06: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  You start the "talk" topic again

                  I agree. And in general, it’s best to crawl out under the tank .. although it’s wildly uncomfortable belay
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 17 September 2015 06: 24 New
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    And in general, it’s best to crawl out under the tank .. although it’s wildly uncomfortable

                    It’s just nothing to crawl, but to open it and crawl from the combat to the control department, yes ... you can strip all your skin.
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 17 September 2015 23: 45 New
          0
          Quote: svp67
          To the offhand - by the presence of TWO hatches for THREE crew members, and the fact that the commander’s hatch leans in the direction where he will have to escape, couldn’t the mech-water and commander hatches be unified?

          Why it was done, it’s hard to say, probably didn’t want to weaken the upper armor of the capsule with the third hatch. But this is not some kind of nonsense. In all tanks with 4 crew members, a gunner followed by a commander’s hatch, who had not had his own hatch for almost a century. And in tanks with 5 crew members (T-34) through the hatch of the mechanic, in addition to the driver himself, the radio operator gunner got out.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 September 2015 10: 19 New
      +10
      "... And judging by everything, dear, at a price comparable to the T-14. The question arises,
      when allocating a not-so-fat budget for the military commissariat, which is better to produce
      a hundred infantry fighting vehicles or an additional hundred tanks ??? ... "////

      You have absolutely correct fears. Our price is comparable to Merkava.
      And on the very first budget cut, Namer "walked under the knife," and somehow on Merkava
      knocked out money.
      Only the case in the war in Gaza, when ATGM flew into the airborne squad of the old American armored personnel carrier and killed everyone on the spot, forced to resume the release of the TBTR.
    4. Cat man null
      Cat man null 16 September 2015 10: 43 New
      0
      Quote: qwert
      apparently expensive, comparable in price to the T-14

      So, for information: with the price of the T-64B tank about a lemon of Soviet rubles, the gun cost a little less than half laughing

      So what about "comparable in price" - I would think ..

      Quote: qwert
      I like this machine

      Happy for you

      Quote: qwert
      it uniquely more successful and less controversial than the Armata tank

      But from now on - in more detail, please:

      - Cham so "controversial" T-14?
      - What is the “more successful" T-15?
      - How can you compare cars of different classes? Like an elephant on a whale, or what?
      1. svp67
        svp67 17 September 2015 06: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        So, for information: with the price of the T-64B tank about a lemon of Soviet rubles, the gun cost a little less than half

        This is WHO WHO TALKED TO YOU? On the T64B, the most expensive were:
        = a complex of guided weapons, all the electronics that clogged the tank from the bottom to the roof of the tank.
        - stabilizer - tank weapons
        - engine 5 TDF
        and already from the fourth position a gun appeared
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 17 September 2015 06: 44 New
          0
          Quote: svp67
          WHO TALKED TO YOU?

          I don’t remember already .. maybe I’ve got something wrong ..

          - Comrade cadets, write down - the water boils at 90 degrees!
          - Dragging the colonel .. not at 90, but at 100 ..
          - I said - at 90 !!

          Next day :

          - Comrade cadets, write down - the water boils at 100 degrees! And 90 degrees, comrade cadets, it's a right angle!

          request
    5. perfect100
      perfect100 16 September 2015 14: 10 New
      +4
      They have different tasks! The T-15 can transport infantry to the front line in one formation with tanks and effectively support it with fire. The protection of the fighters is comparable to the protection of the crews of tanks, in contrast to the light infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, which are completely pierced with a 30-mm shell and from the first hit of an RPG, which is why fighters still ride on their armor.
      1. kravch67k
        kravch67k 17 September 2015 19: 43 New
        0
        What should infantry do when fighting tanks at the forefront?
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  3. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 16 September 2015 07: 37 New
    +3
    necessary and most importantly a modern car. waiting in the army.
  4. Vladimir.
    Vladimir. 16 September 2015 07: 48 New
    +12
    "The car is thought out, but huge, which is not ice."
    Yeah, tell me again that modern aiming and detection systems will notice the difference between the T-90 and M1A1.
    Size already, a long time ago, does not matter. Especially, for BMP, where people have to live a day or more. Boxes without armor are the last century.
    "And judging by everything, the expensive one, at a price comparable to the T-14 tank. The question arises when allocating a not-so-fat budget for the military commissar"
    ARMATA is a platform. Therefore, if you don’t understand the essence, don’t write. I’m not Google, I don’t have to write kilometers of lines to you.
    "what is better to produce a hundred infantry fighting vehicles or an additional hundred tanks ???"
    You have no idea about the integration of military systems and technology classes.
    A tank without infantry is a pile of scrap metal. But a tank with a BMP / BMPT cover, this is a viable bunch.
    "The appearance of such an infantry fighting vehicle is a requirement of the time, but this does not mean that it should replace all infantry fighting vehicles in our army ..."
    In general, it would be better to replace them all. Not to say that our infantry fighting vehicles are very bad, but nevertheless, as practice shows, the main thing in modern technology is the protection of the crew. And on infantry fighting vehicles manufactured in the USSR, armor ... As it is, but no matter how.
    They don’t need traction with tanks, but the BMP-3 also doesn’t always withstand hits from RPGs (from DZ). And they won’t survive the Javelins and other things flying from above. The army needed a heavy BMP for a long time. cities. Where the threat is everywhere. And the shell can fly from any direction.
    1. dumkopff
      dumkopff 16 September 2015 14: 07 New
      -1
      "Size already, a long time ago, does not matter." I have a suspicion that in the conditions of military operations any trifle can be of great importance.
      1. yehat
        yehat 17 September 2015 23: 14 New
        0
        for the size of an infantry fighting vehicle, it’s not as important as hiding the silhouette from the tank - if you taxied in front of it, especially the side, it’s time to pray. Even if the forehead can withstand a hit, I still advise you to pray, because the tank does not have 1 shell. For the BMP, protection from everything else is more important and here the dimensions in the tank sense are not so critical.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 16 September 2015 07: 58 New
    -4
    I wonder how the optical systems of these products work in conditions of heavy rain, fog, frost ....

    Well, imagine a man in glasses in the cold who went into a warm hut .... glasses of glasses are instantly covered with hoarfrost and something similar can with video surveillance systems and optical sights.
    1. Afotin
      Afotin 16 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +4
      A special coating of optical glasses and temperature control systems solve this problem.
      1. dumkopff
        dumkopff 16 September 2015 14: 10 New
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        Does it affect the belt badge? And then in the winter you will always return to the guardhouse - the plaque is covered with hoarfrost, and then patina. Treat it later with GOI paste.
  6. DimanC
    DimanC 16 September 2015 08: 00 New
    +4
    Damn, half of the article could not be written at all, they would just be sent to the article about the tank
  7. Pate
    Pate 16 September 2015 08: 56 New
    0
    But I wonder why in Armata, as a engine, they chose a turbodiesel, and not a turbojet engine.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 16 September 2015 09: 21 New
      +2
      Turbojet engines - do it for airplanes, can it deliver ramjet engines? It seems to me there is an auxiliary unit - the turbine is standing, judging by the frames with the launch.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 16 September 2015 09: 21 New
      0
      Turbojet engines - do it for airplanes, can it deliver ramjet engines? It seems to me there is an auxiliary unit - the turbine is standing, judging by the frames with the launch.
  8. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 September 2015 09: 19 New
    +3
    The author watched one on TV? Or didn’t he see everything the first time, he is reviewing it for the fourth time and every time he sees new facts? It seems to me one or two publications for a normal person is enough. Probably in the next article, the author will get to the transmission and explain how the tank is turning in place. Would you talk about KAZ of the new generation, how is protection from above ensured? how many thermal imagers are installed? Why is there no additional module with FCT?
  9. PROXOR
    PROXOR 16 September 2015 09: 41 New
    +2
    Everyone noticed the X-shaped engine?))))
  10. Bubulge Onote
    Bubulge Onote 16 September 2015 10: 10 New
    0
    Too much water in the article. At least 3 references to the paragraph each, that BMP is made on the same platform with the T-14.
  11. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 16 September 2015 11: 08 New
    +1
    I don’t understand why it was necessary to create a 2 BMP? It is clear that one light class is another heavy. Wasn’t it easier to produce only the T-15? The heavy BMP T-15 is better protected compared to the light Kurganets-25. Functions BMP Kurganets-25 could perform a boomerang.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 16 September 2015 22: 11 New
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      t-15 does not swim and has less strategic mobility. Kurgan is able to withstand the battle with infantry and light infantry fighting vehicles, provide fire support to the infantry. It can be quickly thrown under its own power, it can swim, in the BTR version it is able to replace the old man MT-LB and he has more output volumes. Boomerang is an armored personnel carrier (light infantry fighting vehicle) with all the pros and cons.
  12. Tektor
    Tektor 16 September 2015 12: 44 New
    +1
    As far as I think, the T-15 is a tank support combat vehicle with infantry delivered to the front line of attack in the most protected way. The main objective of the BMPT is a quick (faster than a tank) response to suddenly appearing threats from enemy infantry and light, including wearable, artillery systems. Why do we need machine guns and grenade launchers with a range of 3-4 km. The task of BMPT is to prevent the infantry from raising their heads and leaning out of cover. At the same time - providing anti-aircraft defense, from UAVs - including, for which the best option would be a 57-caliber gun with an aim range of up to 8 km for air targets at an altitude of up to 6-7 km. As an anti-aircraft projectile, it is necessary to use guided artillery shells with remote non-contact detonation by radio signal, for example, which will allow up to 2-3 shells to be allocated to the target - saving ammunition of 200 pcs. To counter fortified points, you need high-explosive or thermobaric ammunition, for example, from Cornet, which can also be used for helicopters and other moving targets, like a 57-caliber cannon with UAS. The main purpose is the quick identification of the target and the impact on it of fire from any type of weapon that is not involved at the moment, based on the range, security of the target and the degree of danger.
    1. kravch67k
      kravch67k 17 September 2015 19: 49 New
      0
      Any universal is worse than a special one, probably everyone has already forgotten the Combat Charter of the SV. Each has its own task, do not keep all your eggs in one wallet and do not read modern combat science fiction (before, at least it was scientific)
  13. bmv04636
    bmv04636 16 September 2015 12: 59 New
    +1
    and a 57 mm automatic gun as an option? It would not look bad
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 September 2015 14: 29 New
    +1
    57mm will not work, the ammunition will be in the cabin and the meaning of the "capsule" will be lost.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 16 September 2015 22: 06 New
      0
      57 mm has a new module with b / c outside the habitable space (if I am not mistaken, then the site recently wrote about it)
  15. AAV
    AAV 16 September 2015 15: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Afotin
    A special coating of optical glasses and temperature control systems solve this problem.


    I’ll add to the silica gel drying cartridges listed by you and the fact that thermal imaging systems under certain conditions are able to see through haze and fog.
  16. Crown
    Crown 16 September 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    T-14 and T-15, this is a tank special forces.
  17. Clueless
    Clueless 16 September 2015 18: 00 New
    +3
    When I read the comments that the car is expensive, I am horrified. Those. human life is not worth it, then let's ride on carts, cheap and cheerful.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 16 September 2015 21: 17 New
      0
      in fact, the question is not even the price, but is the modernized and new equipment going to the troops?
  18. DmitryK
    DmitryK 16 September 2015 19: 57 New
    0
    In the ninth photo on the left, is Medvedev sleeping again?
  19. Centurion
    Centurion 16 September 2015 22: 15 New
    0
    A family of super-war fighting vehicles. Most likely in a functioning army.
    1. yehat
      yehat 17 September 2015 23: 21 New
      0
      There was a variant of the T72 rework - a terminator.
      Interestingly, this experience is taken into account in t15?
      in my opinion, modules from bmp or light vehicles are not quite enough for a heavy machine.
      Of course, I do not propose to put a tank tower, but the shit with a thin stick sticking out for such a large machine seems obviously an understatement. If only with the BMP-3 option they took ...
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 September 2015 01: 28 New
    +1
    The module with 57mm was shown so far only with bk inside the PT 76 and BMP 3. Just because you can’t place it on the roof with bk. If for t-14 this load was calculated, then they will place it. And so, in the pictures there were 4 different options.
  21. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 19 September 2015 18: 49 New
    0
    That's what they, UVZ engineers did not like GTD-1250 (1500)? Great dvigun - lightweight, compact, economical and powerful. Outdated a little, but ... "Armata", according to statements, is also "modernization of all ideas."
    1. philosopher
      philosopher 3 January 2016 17: 57 New
      0
      And you didn’t notice that on the engine to the Armata platform there are constantly different interpretations. Either he was deformed to 1250 h.p., then he had 1500 mares (already for granted), then more than 1500 ... In general, I think that there is some big surprise there and therefore it is so immodest in size.
      In addition, do not forget that it is X-shaped, that is, as it were, two V-shaped, combined with belts. The layout, of course, is strange for the tank, in the sense it is not economical in volume, but there is most likely a certain gain from this move. It is possible that the engine works there on a generator (which in one unit looks quite cumbersome), and the stroke directly from the electric traction.
      Who will tell us the truth)))
      The longer everyone except the initiates will remain in ignorance, the better.