"Army Games". As the Venezuelans tank drowned. Photo report

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So, "2015 Army Games" started. We were at the opening, watched the beginning of the tank biathlon, visited the tragically ended Aviadarts. They scored material, but while the video is being mounted (which is no secret, our modest possibilities are so far different from the leading media monsters of the country), I decided to post a few of my photo stories.

Yes, in terms of chronology, they will not correspond to the general plan, but each of them has the right to life.

In general, representatives of the Venezuelan army on biathlon were noticed immediately. They, how to say it correctly, and loud, and high-speed at the same time. Beautiful language, facial expressions and gestures just stunned.

But in terms of passing the track biathlon got bad luck.


It all started quite vigorously














But when the special effects subsided, it turned out that all. Sailed.




The captain watched as competitors pass by.




But on the hill in front of the pond there was a roar and another tank appeared.


Replacement allowed tank and the unlucky divers drove another car.


The crew began to leave the car.






The phrase "Well, you fuckers!" was understood without translation.






Venezuelans didn’t go so aggressively a second time


Further, as always - someone mows, and someone clears up.


The arriving crew observed with interest the process of extracting the tank.





Unfortunately, our time on this site has ended, since heavy rain began. And we already in the rain, hiding on the move camera, began to retreat. They ran and laughed at the last phrase they heard from the crew of the towing vehicle: "I speak to you in Venezuelan: quick, ...!"
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  1. +22
    5 August 2015 04: 38
    Hmm, I didn’t even know that on the horizontal, you can turn the tank over wassat
    Comrades, prompt:
    1) The crew was not injured?
    2) Do they fasten inside?
    3) How did AZ and BK behave in it?

    All expenses with broken equipment (flooded engines, an overturned tank) are paid by the RF Armed Forces?

    "Drift" of course effectively
    1. -32
      5 August 2015 05: 28
      Quote: NOMADE
      All expenses with broken equipment (flooded engines, an overturned tank) are paid by the RF Armed Forces?

      Well, do not get used to Venezuela - Russia pays for everything
      But when the special effects subsided, it turned out that all. Sailed.

      How exactly (Roman (+)) - with the economy they have the same thing. lol
      1. +5
        5 August 2015 06: 06
        Well, do not get used to Venezuela - Russia pays for everything
        Clear laughing
        In this situation, I would also not mind the same "drift" laughing
        There you don’t even need to install struts and safety arches, just stick the Recaro seat and 4-point belts laughing
      2. +18
        5 August 2015 07: 54
        Was that yours? Or do you have a drink? And since this is a sporting event, the crews will learn from their own mistakes and those of others. Still such competitions are a good test of technology in extreme conditions.
        1. -68
          5 August 2015 10: 37
          Quote: regdan
          Was that yours? Or do you have a drink?

          Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

          This is money from Armenia and Venezuela for stupidity in bulk, and with us only for the necessary teachings smile .
          1. +42
            5 August 2015 11: 10
            Well, after this video, I can definitely say that an Israeli tank can shoot in the desert from a place.
            1. +1
              5 August 2015 17: 20
              And what kind of gypsies steal a tank? bully They look at him in the mouth at 0:39, try on ... all this is not good, (see below) winked
          2. PAM
            +20
            5 August 2015 11: 23
            Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.
            and why, then, Israel sets for example: athletes in international competitions (lounging? fellow clowns). So say it and you are sorry for the loot and are afraid of being taxed.
            1. -43
              5 August 2015 11: 26
              sport and the army are not identical things, at least with us!
              1. +16
                5 August 2015 11: 38
                Well, sit at home and do not criticize that which you yourself cannot do, otherwise there is no time to do it with the circus. Then you Palestinians in the last war are not weak jamming business pancake.
              2. +1
                5 August 2015 15: 45
                Well, it’s only YOU ... And everywhere sport. hunting-training for the army ...
              3. 0
                5 August 2015 22: 57
                Quote: MACCABI-TLV
                sport and the army are not identical things, at least with us!

                ====
                life and money are, of course, identical things for you
          3. +43
            5 August 2015 16: 04
            Quote: MACCABI-TLV
            Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

            Come on, with the circus in Israel, too, everything is in order.
            1. +1
              6 August 2015 02: 43
              Cool at Leo ......... Abramycha!
          4. 0
            5 August 2015 21: 45
            teachings
            You and your teachings will get stuck on the farm itself as Germans, but ours will follow you and not notice. got it
          5. 0
            6 August 2015 05: 55
            Forgive this, the reservists were invited to the Israeli army, a weekend group, so to speak.
            Or are they regular military personnel?
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          7. +4
            6 August 2015 22: 24
            Quote: MACCABI-TLV
            Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.


            It must be understood that this is not only a competition, but a demonstration of technology and its reliability under severe conditions of maximum loads. Moreover, this is not an advertising brochure, but everything that you can "touch with your pens". Everyone loves to praise their tanks, but few people use tanks around the world as widely as Russian tanks, albeit not the newest, but reliable. But they are everywhere, and everyone can praise their bride in the "burqa". The Americans destroyed Chinese and Soviet tanks in conditions of air superiority in Iraq, you use yours as a "police" tank. Yes, an engine in front, and a compartment for soldiers, but he did not participate in direct tank clashes? Who, besides you and the journalists, can guarantee his abilities? Nobody. And here, biathlon, if you want to try, if you want the same or better, or cheaper, we'll talk. A test tank, where you can show yourself on others see, this is the best training for the tank crew, but imagine what kind of selection goes in the troops for a chance to get there ?? Army training is a powerful advertisement of the capabilities of weapons to enter new weapons markets; it is a strong incentive for military personnel to improve their skills, learn from the experience of other countries, and adopt the best. Compared to a computer game, your training is a PC game, our training is an online game. I am 100% sure that among your fighters there are people who want to participate in such games, prove to yourself, show others that you are the best. So for now, you just have to see the audience and work, alas, only for now, in a language where you are certainly champions.
      3. +7
        5 August 2015 08: 47
        Quote: atalef
        they have the same thing with the economy.

        In Europe, someone will be worse.
        1. -35
          5 August 2015 08: 56
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          In Europe, someone will be worse.


          Igor, you have an economics tower, tell an amateur (to me) who is worse in Europe?
          1. +7
            5 August 2015 09: 11
            In the Baltic countries for example ...
            1. -2
              5 August 2015 17: 25
              Has the Baltic States already become Europe? And why is Zap.ukri worse? It is also unnaturally who eats more fat.
          2. +13
            5 August 2015 09: 47
            Quote: atalef
            Igor, you have a tower in economics
            Did not forget?
            Quote: atalef
            ) who is worse in Europe?
            Is Greece an example? And this despite the fact that they are being helped. Venezuela does not help anyone.
            1. -21
              5 August 2015 10: 37
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: atalef
              Igor, you have a tower in economics
              Did not forget?
              Quote: atalef
              ) who is worse in Europe?
              Is Greece an example? And this despite the fact that they are being helped. Venezuela does not help anyone.

              Igor, when you start to say such things, vague doubts begin to torment me - either you don’t get the information, or the tower is not a tower or such a tower, well, let's begin
              1. Per capita income for the population compare Greece - Venezuela
              2. In Greece, it’s shitty, but at least it has a stable currency, and not a bolivar that lost 200% in 3 years
              3. In Greece, there are no queues for the first essentials including toilet paper
              etc., but about help
              Both those and those lazy people.
              But in Saudi Arabia they are just lazy, and now explain why Venezuela needs help at all? She, having the largest oil reserves in the world, lives not only worse than Saudi Arabia. but just in full pope?
              Although I somewhat deviated from the topic. Venezuela lives an order of magnitude worse than Greece.
              1. +12
                5 August 2015 11: 32
                Quote: atalef
                Per capita income for population compare Greece - Venezuela

                Is the price of the consumer basket and the price of fuel and lubricants also comparable? In China, too, on average, less Greeks get, but the economy as a whole is 10 times more successful.
                Quote: atalef
                In Greece, it’s shitty, but at least it has a stable currency, and not a bolivar that lost 200% in 3 years

                Yes, but as I said, outsiders do not "work" against Greece.
                1. -16
                  5 August 2015 12: 11
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Is the price of the consumer basket and the price of fuel and lubricants also comparable?

                  Why not? You are an economist, draw a couple of formulas
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In China, too, on average, less Greeks get, but the economy as a whole is 10 times more successful.

                  What are we talking about? About the economy as a whole or about GDP per capita - what is a real indicator of prosperity?

                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  against Greece do not "work" from outside.

                  Who? Venezuela sells 70% of oil in the USA and there are no embargoes and sanctions against it
                  More than Maduro himself, no one works against Venezuela
                  1. +9
                    5 August 2015 12: 27
                    Quote: atalef
                    draw a couple of formulas

                    Do not fool Sanya, you understand what I mean. On the ratio of real income to real prices in the country.
                    Quote: atalef
                    About the economy as a whole or about GDP per capita - what is a real indicator of prosperity?

                    GDP of course in dollars, guessed? wink Only a loaf of bread in Venezuela is several times cheaper than in Greece.
                    Quote: atalef
                    More than Maduro himself, no one works against Venezuela

                    Like Chavez. But the biggest pest in your country (if you follow your logic) is Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.
                    1. -3
                      5 August 2015 12: 42
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Do not fool Sanya, you understand what I mean. On the ratio of real income to real prices in the country

                      Yes, and I'm talking about
                      Food Prices in Venezuela

                      In an inexpensive cafe
                      - 2 pies with coffee 202 USD = 20 VEF
                      - A quarter of a chicken with a side dish costs 202 USD = 20 VEF
                      - Comprehensive lunch in a simple bedclothes 252 - 353 USD = 25 - 35 VEF
                      - Arepa (corn tortilla stuffed) in the edal 50 USD = 5 VEF

                      Restaurant Food Prices
                      - Breakfast in the restaurant 302 - 403 USD = 30 - 40 VEF
                      - Lunch or dinner 1 008 - 1 311 USD = 100 - 130 VEF
                      - The main main course costs 706 - 907 USD = 70 - 90 VEF
                      - Vegetable salad 252 - 353 USD = 25 - 35 VEF
                      - Serving of rum 101 - 121 USD = 10 - 12 VEF
                      - Freshly squeezed juice 101 USD = 10 VEF
                      - Mojito in a bar 353 USD = 35 VEF (How much does a mojito cost in Cuba?
                      - Coffee, tea 81 - 101 USD = 8 - 10 VEF
                      - Beer costs 202 - 302 USD = 20 - 30 VEF
                      - A bottle of wine in a cafe 1 008 - 1 512 RUB = 100 - 150 VEF
                      - The cost of a standard cocktail in a bar 403 USD = 40 VEF



                      Shop prices
                      - Pack of cigarettes 202 USD = 20 VEF
                      - Wine in the store 403 - 504 USD = 40 - 50 VEF
                      - Beer in the store 101 USD = 10 VEF
                      - Water 81 - 91 RUB = 8 - 9 VEF
                      - A burger costs 202 USD = 20 VEF
                      - Yogurt 81 USD = 8 VEF
                      - Chocolate 202 USD = 20 VEF

                      Cost of housing
                      - The hotel room has air conditioning and a TV. $ 2 - $ 016 = 3 - 025 VEF
                      - Hotel with pool 4

                      I think you understand, at least at prices, at least at GDP, that people in Venezuela live poorer than in Russia, but what about the standard of living in Greece is higher than in Russia, you probably should not prove?
                      Or do you want to continue the theoretical fabrications?
                      1. +14
                        5 August 2015 13: 14
                        Quote: atalef
                        Food Prices in Venezuela
                        In an inexpensive cafe
                        The concept is inexpensive from whose point of view? Meat Beef -215 rubles, chicken 100 rubles. Gasoline as much as 6 rubles per liter. Fruits and vegetables are much cheaper than ours. The average salary in the region of 35-50 thousand rubles. And how does this compare with yours -
                        Quote: atalef
                        that in Venezuela they live poorer than in Russia
                        ??? In Togliatti, products are more expensive. (I keep silent for gasoline crying ) Communal is also more expensive.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Greece, the standard of living is higher than in Russia, you probably should not prove?

                        Wrappers brighter? wink
                        We live not rich, but with a soul. hi And there are slums in Israel, but you don’t remember them. And yet, I noticed that all the time you try to bite the country that made you a man (we have the right to self-criticism) - do you want to convince yourself that it was not for nothing that he sniffed into the promised land? wink
                      2. -16
                        5 August 2015 13: 35
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And yet, I noticed that you always try to bite the country that made you a man

                        In general, it was about Venezuela.
                        Further - I made myself a man. otherwise it doesn’t converge, the country is one, but people are different
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Do you want to convince yourself that it was not in vain that he sniffed into the promised land?

                        Yes, I didn’t doubt it, thank God I have lived here almost as long as in the USSR / Russia
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        (we have the right to self-criticism)

                        Do you have the right to criticize others? If, yes, then I kind of like the same
                      3. +15
                        5 August 2015 13: 59
                        Quote: atalef
                        In general, it was about Venezuela.

                        Here I am about the same. In particular, about prices. You brought prices from tourist sources, they are selective, and differ from the real prices in the country.
                        Quote: atalef
                        I made myself a man

                        lol I thought mom and dad tried! laughing But seriously, a person is shaped by the environment (people, the ideology of education). Among cannibals it is difficult to grow a vegetarian. Parenting and education (and not bad and free of charge) gave you my homeland.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Do you have the right to criticize others?

                        Every sandpiper can discuss someone else’s swamp, but only in his swamp. If I start discussing Israel’s shortcomings about religious characteristics on the Israeli patriotic website, do you think I will last long there? wink This is more a matter of ethics than formalities.
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                      5. -7
                        5 August 2015 14: 14
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Here I am about the same. In particular, about prices. You brought prices from tourist sources, they are selective, and differ from the real prices in the country.

                        Give real ones (only not from subsidized stores where they give a monthly rate that is limited by fingerprint)
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        But seriously, a person is shaped by the environment (people, the ideology of education).

                        Well, this is understandable, just explain - the environment is the same, but people are so different
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Education and education (and not bad and free) gave you my homeland

                        Partially
                        My parents raised me (the same way somehow)
                        But I studied the same as that myself
                        By the way, do not establish a monopoly on your homeland, it is not only yours
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        If I start discussing Israel’s shortcomings about religious characteristics on the Israeli patriotic website, do you think I will last long there?


                        I think if you will not breed flood - for a long time
                        Israel’s shortcomings are also big and I have no problem recognizing this. In general, Israel is an ordinary state with its thieves, prostitutes, parasites, etc. - well, in short, everything that you have, we have.
                        - maybe just in different quantities
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        This is more a matter of ethics than formalities.

                        Ethics, you’re just an example of tolerance and tolerance
                      6. +6
                        5 August 2015 16: 38
                        Quote: atalef
                        Give real ones (only not from subsidized stores where they give a monthly rate that is limited by fingerprint)

                        I can’t find it, only tourist links are available, and you know that. You also know that they are overpriced, they are overpriced in all places visited by tourists, even in Egypt, even in Thailand. Venezuela is no exception.
                        Urban residents in Caracas receive from 500 to 1000 $... This is at prices slightly lower than Russian ones. Mattress covers and analogues of our Nemtsovs tell tales about the "terrible" life in Venezuela.
                        Quote: atalef
                        and people are so different

                        You still say about different eye color, not to mention different sizes ... wassat But seriously - if you grew up in the favelas of Brazil, I would look at your ability to create yourself.
                        Quote: atalef
                        By the way, do not establish a monopoly on your homeland, it is not only yours

                        Yes, this is the birthplace not only of mine, but of all the indigenous peoples of Russia. You are a repatriate and your homeland in Israel.
                        Quote: atalef
                        well you are just an example of tolerance and tolerance

                        laughing Ethics and tolerance are completely different concepts!
                      7. +2
                        5 August 2015 19: 13
                        Quote: atalef
                        Food Prices in Venezuela

                        By the way, I found prices in ordinary shops in Venice from our "savages" -

                        Traveling by public transport - 1.5 bolivars
                        Double room with shower, TV and fan - 90-100 b.
                        Freshly squeezed juice, a large glass - 4-7 b.
                        Negro coffee (small thimble cup) - 1,5-2
                        Grande coffee (small mug) - 4-5
                        Pie with cheese or meat (two full enough) - 3-5
                        A large piece of cake 5-7
                        1 kg. limes - 5
                        1 kg. Mango - 5-6
                        1 kg. 4 bananas
                        1 kg. avocado - 7-8
                        A complete set lunch of soup, a plate of rice with a plane tree, chop 300-400 grams and with a drink - 18-25
                        One full-fledged dish with meat in an inexpensive restaurant 20-30
                        Bottle of water 1,5 l. - 7-8
                        Bottle of local Polar beer 240 ml. - 3-4
                        Bottle of Malti (Malt Drink?) - 1.5-2
                        A loaf of bread, like Soviet 3 kopecks. - 0,6
                        Canned fish 200-250 g. - 4-12
                        Canned meat - no ...
                        Oatmeal 0,5 kg - 2
                        Pasta 0,5 kg - 2-3
                        Lighter - 3
                        A mixture of nuts by weight - 35 / kg.
                        10 bolivars - $ 1.58. Count it. And compare with Greece -


                        Supermarket prices in Greece, Halkidiki, 2015

                        Bread - 0.50 - 1.00 Euro
                        Olive oil 1 l - 5 - 6 euros
                        Sunflower oil 1 liter - 1.60 - 2.50 euros
                        Water 1,5 L - 0.34 Euro
                        Instant coffee 200 g - 4.60 - 5.60 euros
                        Juice packaged 1 liter - 0.85 - 1.85 euros
                        Packing Fanta, Coca-Cola, Sprite 6 pcs. x 330 ml - 2.40 - 3.40 per package
                        Wine 750 ml - 3.60 - 10 euros
                        Beer 0.5 L - 1.00 - 1.10 Euro
                        Rezina 0.5 - 1.36 euros
                        Milk 1 L - 1.10 Euro
                        Greek yogurt 1 kg - 2.50-4.00 euros
                        Spaghetti 500 g - 0.75 euros
                        Rice 1 kg - 1.37 euros
                        Salt 1 kg - 1 euro
                        Wheat flour 1 kg - 0.78 euros
                        Minced pork, 1 kg -4.76 euros
                        Ground beef, 1 kg - 7.95 euros
                        Pork, 1 kg - 5-6 euros
                        Beef, 1 kg - 8-9 euros
                        Chicken fillet 1 kg - 6.10 euros
                        Chicken legs in the supermarket 1 kg - 4.40 euros
                        Fish per 1 kg - 5-10 euros
                        Eggs 10 pcs. - 1.59 euros
                        Cheeses per kg 7.5 - 14.50 euros
                        Feta packaging 1 kg - 8-10 euros
                        Cooked sausage 1 kg - 10 euros
                        Smoked turkey 1 kg - 10.00 - 15.00 euro
                        Vegetables and fruits - the price varies depending on the season.
                      8. +1
                        5 August 2015 17: 30
                        You have no segment on the ISS and Siberia ... let's change the snow on the sand.
                      9. +5
                        6 August 2015 12: 08
                        "By the way, do not establish a monopoly on the Motherland, it is not only yours" - well, it is certainly not yours. She is the Motherland for those who did not dribble, unlearned for free.
                      10. +2
                        5 August 2015 17: 03
                        funny ... I follow the comments of atalef (not all the tea to be smoothed out). Usually answers in order, from top to bottom of the comment. but here about the fact that our country is trying to bite, I immediately answered ... such a call ...
                      11. +5
                        5 August 2015 17: 05
                        Ingvar 72 "And yet, I noticed that you are always trying to bite the country that made you a man (we have the right to self-criticism) - do you want to convince yourself that it was not in vain that you chucked into the Promised Land?"
                        For some of them it shows in almost every comment.)))) The toad suppresses a little probably.))) One German told me so in Germany about his wonderful life there.))) And I was happy for him.))) And the latest issue of the magazine about buying real estate felts in Omsk felts in Tomsk on the table.))) So, that’s fine.)))
                      12. +2
                        5 August 2015 17: 49
                        Quote: Nagaibak
                        One Rusak told me in Germany about his wonderful life there.

                        And a German tells me everything about a good life in Europe, but for some reason he is not in a hurry there. laughing
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                    3. -2
                      5 August 2015 18: 22
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Only here a loaf of bread in Venezuela is several times cheaper
                      Due to state control over prices, even in the private sector, and state subsidies. It’s just that there aren’t enough controlling ones, and sellers strive to change the price towards the market price all the time, and the goods, if you overlook, go to the black market. Do we, who lived in the late USSR, not know this? And the subsidies go the further, the greater the share of the budget. The budget, meanwhile, is replenished almost exclusively from oil sales, and the trend in the oil market is known. So ... explain what it is going to, or do you see for yourself?
                      1. +3
                        5 August 2015 18: 49
                        Quote: Nagan
                        So ... explain what it is going to, or do you see for yourself?

                        Chavez, like his follower Maduro, are trying very hard to prevent what happened in our 90s. And without serious repression. And without them it's hard. If they begin to fight with US agents of influence more seriously, guests from the US Marine Corps will come to them. Your country of residence is already very worried about human rights, especially in countries where there is oil.
                      2. +1
                        5 August 2015 19: 42
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Your country of residence is already very worried about human rights, especially in countries where there is oil.

                        For example, in Saudi Arabia or Qatar laughing
                      3. +3
                        5 August 2015 20: 15
                        Quote: Nagan
                        For example, in Saudi Arabia or Qatar

                        Well, these are completely "tame". If these states tried to pursue an independent policy, they would immediately find a violation of human rights. And you don't need to look for anything in the SA - the sponsor and ideologist of most terrorist organizations.
                  2. -1
                    5 August 2015 18: 15
                    Quote: atalef
                    More than Maduro himself, no one works against Venezuela
                    Chavez. He has twisted so much that the consequences have not yet been fully felt, and continue to develop. As they say, Chavez died, but his work lives on and "wins".
                    1. +1
                      5 August 2015 18: 29
                      in puerto rico chavez no7
                      1. 0
                        5 August 2015 18: 51
                        Quote: Saber
                        in puerto rico chavez no7

                        Well, there is, and more than one, google "San Juan PR Chavez", you will see for yourself. But this, as they say, "two worlds - two Shapiro". These Chavezs have a socialist revolution, at least, FSUs, but rather tries.
                        In my memory, there was at least one referendum in Puerto Rico with one question "what to do?" and three answers:
                        - leave as is
                        - become 51st state
                        - independence
                        So much more voted for "as is" than for the others put together, and for independence, and generally negligible. I have been there several times. This is a piece of America in the middle of the Caribbean Sea. The most favorable climate, sea, palm trees, resorts. All social services like in the USA, and free entry to the USA for everyone. The only thing missing is the federal income tax, which would have been introduced at the moment if they had voted for the 51st state.
                      2. 0
                        5 August 2015 20: 27
                        Do not want to become a resident of this paradise on earth?
                      3. 0
                        5 August 2015 21: 41
                        I do not exclude it. There, life is somewhat cheaper than in the continental states, so many Americans, having retired, move there. The same pension there will buy more goods and especially services, and the level of services, of the same medicine, if worse than on the continent, is not strong. Medicare insurance is there. True in the summer there is not very high, hot and humid, but from autumn to spring, if not paradise, then it is close to this.
                        In general, it would be ideal to have an apartment in San Juan and a summer house with a thread somewhere in Vermont or New Hampshire, but I don’t think I can pull it for the money.
                      4. +1
                        6 August 2015 09: 10
                        no-no-no ... not to live in retirement, but to be born, grow up, have a family and live-work? with their medicine (not much worse, huh .. good doctors rummage right there), with their education. Oops ... but there’s no education ... Puerto Rico is bankrupt! that is, it cannot be bankrupt, because it is not a state ... therefore, it must comply with the recommendations of the United States. and they recommended that the 50 closed schools be closed and the rest ... you think, learn some kind of Latinos children’s literacy, they’ll be able to wash their Nagans without a letter. Would you like your child to wash American fart legs? Venezuelan popes don’t want such a fate for their children ... better without a smartphone and a hamburger, but with their own dignity
                      5. +1
                        7 August 2015 03: 09
                        Quote: Saber
                        better without a smartphone and a hamburger,

                        As well as meat, milk, air conditioning (in their fry), and much more,
                        Quote: Saber
                        but with
                        unstoppable crime. In New York, 3.3 killings per 100000 population in 2013, but have since fallen, and in Venezuela 53.7. For comparison, in Russia 9.2.
                        Data:
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


                        http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
                      6. 0
                        7 August 2015 03: 27
                        But in the USA as a whole?
                        Search engines on "gun law in venezuela" immediately give out something strange even for a Latin American country, maybe this is the case?
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              2. +1
                5 August 2015 15: 03
                Saudi Arabia has a population of 1.5 million. The rest of the slaves are actually from abroad. Obtaining UAE citizenship is not realistic. Income from oil and gas in the UAE is 2500 rubles per day for a "person" oh citizen. In Russia, 260 rubles per person is dirty (if we sell everything abroad). The layouts are about the following)))) Well, yes, we also consume half of the oil and gas ourselves, a total of 130 rubles per day per person ....)))
                1. +2
                  5 August 2015 17: 31
                  In addition to oil and gas, there is much more that Russia exports. This is the most producing country in which the people are one of the poorest (we do not consider Moscow and St. Petersburg).
              3. 0
                8 August 2015 20: 28
                Quote: atalef
                But in Saudi Arabia they are just lazy, and now explain why Venezuela needs help at all? She, having the largest oil reserves in the world, lives not only worse than Saudi Arabia. but just in full pope?
                Although I somewhat deviated from the topic. Venezuela lives an order of magnitude worse than Greece.

                You are not quite right here, as I think, the legs of their troubles are growing from the USA. It seems to me that there is an economic embargo on the part of the Yankees, as well as their support for destabilizing elements within the country, and much more can be shoved to the states.
                In principle, the United States cannot allow a non-loyal country to have normal economic and political affairs.
                1. 0
                  8 August 2015 20: 48
                  Quote: MyVrach
                  Quote: atalef
                  But in Saudi Arabia they are just lazy, and now explain why Venezuela needs help at all? She, having the largest oil reserves in the world, lives not only worse than Saudi Arabia. but just in full pope?
                  Although I somewhat deviated from the topic. Venezuela lives an order of magnitude worse than Greece.

                  You are not quite right here, as I think, the legs of their troubles are growing from the USA. It seems to me that there is an economic embargo on the part of the Yankees, as well as their support for destabilizing elements within the country, and much more can be shoved to the states.
                  In principle, the United States cannot allow a non-loyal country to have normal economic and political affairs.

                  There is no embargo or sanction against Venezuela; they sell 70% of the oil to the states
        2. -7
          5 August 2015 08: 56
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          In Europe, someone will be worse.


          Igor, you have an economics tower, tell an amateur (to me) who is worse in Europe?
      4. PAM
        0
        5 August 2015 11: 13
        all expenses are due to the country of the organizer (venue).
      5. +3
        5 August 2015 17: 42
        Quote: atalef
        Well, do not get used to Venezuela - Russia pays for everything

        The team from Kuwait turned upside down. Accustomed, panimaish, drift in your wheelbarrows.

        And in general, comrades from Israel, envy is a bad feeling. Themselves, only the "Hummer" were able to turn over out of the blue. True twice ... smile
      6. 0
        6 August 2015 21: 01
        that anti-Semites. essentially there is something to argue?
      7. -1
        8 August 2015 17: 44
        And only Jews always pay others
    2. +7
      5 August 2015 09: 16
      [quote = NOMADE] Hmm, I didn’t even know that on the horizontal, you can turn the tank over like this wassat
      Comrades, prompt:
      1) The crew was not injured?
      2) Do they fasten inside?
      3) How did AZ and BK behave in it?

      1. In a tank turning around its axis, it’s certainly not sweet, but I think not fatally. There is simply nowhere for the crew to hang out inside the reserved volume. The head will suffer more (a headset will soften blows) and the spine.
      2. Naturally, the crew is not fastened.
      3. Nothing will happen with the AZ, the projectile and charge may not fly out of the cartridge (I’m not sure here, there haven’t been such cases in my practice). In the Ministry of Health, they would not have fallen out. But everything that was lying on the bottom will fly to the crew (garbage, sleeves, etc.), but this is not fatal.
      There was a blow from the cannon to the ground - the gun stop could break (if it was locked in a marching way).
      1. -2
        5 August 2015 10: 34
        these monkeys, they’ll kill us all the equipment. what for games, let them bring their tanks !!!
      2. +2
        5 August 2015 10: 53
        Thank you hi
        But somehow "flying" inside a tank with a bunch of equipment sticking out, even in a headset, is not ice ..
        1. +7
          5 August 2015 19: 56
          When we were on a business trip in the North Caucasus, late at night we returned from the checkpoint to the field camp in 80 armored personnel carriers. Weather - autumn, late, late November. Constant drizzle, fog and zero visibility. The fur presses the pedal to the floor until it stops, because of the weather, almost all the fighters are inside the bater. You sit half asleep and then with the edge of your consciousness you pay attention to the changed noise of the engine operation and literally in a couple of seconds a sharp decrease in speed and such a powerful blow, after which the 80-ku just threw it several times. At first it seemed that a land mine had been caught, but managed to slip through ... I was sitting inside, and as I was in an armor and a "sphere" helmet, I flew with a gun in a confined space - just for a sight, but it always seemed that it was crowded in the troop compartment. Fortunately, they were so equipped. Such bruises, abrasions and a couple of teeth for the whole crowd - got off cheaply. And the reason was simple - we drove at full speed into a herd of cows, where they came from at night on the road is still not clear ... It is likely that they were stolen and driven somewhere. In general, we are without losses, equipment too, but four cows were sent to the country of eternal hunting. But the feeling of such an extreme, as you say, is not ice, that's right.
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    5. +3
      5 August 2015 18: 09
      no one is fastened in the tank, (by the way, when I myself learned to drive the tank, my first question was - are there seat belts) I think the crew attached to the hatches was not bad, but in principle, the head phones save.
    6. +2
      6 August 2015 02: 48
      It is somehow reminiscent of a joke, where a glass member is mentioned, which is either broken or hands cut ..... laughing
  2. +11
    5 August 2015 05: 18
    Last year, we were transferred from reconnaissance training camps near Karaganda to the RPM on a military-technical aircraft. Together with us, our tank crews from biathlon flew in it, let me remind you that they won prizes, and the first thing in driving. Then they told us what they wrote in the Russian media only this year; namely, that all the speakers on the T-72 (except the Chinese, they were on their 96 Type) went to the B1 modifications, except for the Russians, who had their own three more and boosted to 1300 hp. equipped with the latest sighting system. This year, they promised that everyone would play in the B-triples, and rightly so. In the photo a crew meeting.
    1. MMX
      +5
      5 August 2015 07: 58
      Then they told us what they wrote in the Russian media only this year.


      Could you give a reference to the "Russian media", which "only this year" wrote about tank biathlon?

      We went to the B1 modification, except for the Russians, who also had their own B three and forced up to 1300 hp. equipped with the latest sighting system


      And the information that the T-72B3 has an engine with a capacity of 1300 hp What is confirmed?
      1. +4
        5 August 2015 08: 51
        I can't link. Yesterday I only read not the "small world" platform, the material is also about tank biathlon. About the engine, I said forced. In general, it was planned in 2013 that the Americans and the French would arrive on their own vehicles. So on the track they made special vibration areas to shake the electronics. I looked at the photo, but I can't show it - I'm not that tanker. I do not blame the Russians for small military tricks, rather the opposite.
        1. MMX
          +3
          5 August 2015 09: 02
          Quote: blizart
          I can't link. Yesterday I only read not the "small world" platform, the material is also about tank biathlon. About the engine, I said forced. In general, it was planned in 2013 that the Americans and the French would arrive on their own vehicles. So on the track they made special vibration areas to shake the electronics. I looked at the photo, but I can't show it - I'm not that tanker. I do not blame the Russians for small military tricks, rather the opposite.


          I thought so.
        2. +6
          5 August 2015 09: 40
          blizart, the fact that our tank crews performed on T72B3 and the others gave T72B1 was discussed and commented on in the press and on many resources during last year’s biathlon and I think everyone will be happy if this year the participants will be in the same conditions))
      2. 0
        5 August 2015 17: 48
        Quote: MMX
        Could you give a reference to the "Russian media", which "only this year" wrote about tank biathlon?

        Ahem ... the comrade says something else.
        Russian media only this year wrote not about the tank biathlon itself, but about the fact that the Russian team performed in it on a revised version of the T-72B3M, while all the rest on ordinary T-72B. In addition to China, which brought its tanks, distinguished by eternal damage.
        1. MMX
          0
          5 August 2015 19: 26
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: MMX
          Could you give a reference to the "Russian media", which "only this year" wrote about tank biathlon?

          Ahem ... the comrade says something else.
          Russian media only this year wrote not about the tank biathlon itself, but about the fact that the Russian team performed in it on a revised version of the T-72B3M, while all the rest on ordinary T-72B. In addition to China, which brought its tanks, distinguished by eternal damage.


          Yes, it’s clear what about tanks. But speaking of tank biathlon, how can one not mention the theme of the tanks themselves participating in them ???
          In addition, where is the link to the fact that only this year the media began to talk about the T-72B3?
          And where is the evidence of ICE acceleration up to 1300 hp?
          This is what we are talking about. And then OBS turns out ...
    2. +2
      5 August 2015 10: 22
      As far as I remember, at first B3 had 840 strength, but now it’s not 1300 but 1030, so the Algerians turned over and got used to it.
  3. +6
    5 August 2015 05: 19
    Yes, to see the gasket between the seat and the levers to put it mildly not very)))
  4. +2
    5 August 2015 06: 07
    Savages © Poruchik Rzhevsky
    1. +6
      5 August 2015 06: 20
      Quote: Nagan
      Savages © Poruchik Rzhevsky

      "We climbed the input, not knowing the ford." Russian folk saying
  5. +4
    5 August 2015 07: 35
    N-yes ... Flip the tank out of the blue ... did not even imagine that it was possible ...
    1. +4
      5 August 2015 07: 49
      You can foolishly X .. a subject of male pride to break.
      1. 0
        5 August 2015 17: 26
        Quote: alex-cn
        N-yes ... Turn over the tank out of the blue ... didn’t even imagine that it was possible.

        This is probably the best answer.
        Quote: Nagan
        Foolishly, you can X .. subject of male pride to break

        but essentially, on our tanks with a hydraulic control system, it’s very easy, it’s enough in 5th gear and higher, just abruptly, completely, take one of the levers over yourself ...
  6. +3
    5 August 2015 08: 00
    a tank rally in fact, YouTube is resting of course, but seeing the hot Kuwaiti guys saw enough on the previous tank biathlon of the skill of the Russian tank crews and decided that they too can do it, because everything is paid for, but it’s not necessary to drive a car at maximum speed, but masterfully manage by it, this was not given to everyone, I think, participating in their basins they would not do this ...
  7. +4
    5 August 2015 08: 02
    As for the mockery of the inverted tank here, do you take into account the question of the land cover? Nothing wrong with that. The crew will now know at what speed to drive in their dunes and at what speed to drive in chernozem.
    1. +6
      5 August 2015 09: 12
      Yes, I am fond of fasting over Russian technology with various rallies and Formulas - superbly prepared with centuries of experience - accident rate, equipment failure, coincidence, erroneous pilots actions, etc., to put it mildly, several times more.
  8. +7
    5 August 2015 08: 15
    I never saw that the tank would roll over, class, I hope the crew was not badly hurt.
    But the second tank stopped after water, the tanks are so afraid of not deep water or something, is it not clear ?! request
    1. +6
      5 August 2015 08: 52
      Quote: prishelec
      I never saw that the tank would roll over, class, I hope the crew was not badly hurt.
      But the second tank stopped after water, the tanks are so afraid of not deep water or something, is it not clear ?! request

      Water hammer is called
      1. +5
        5 August 2015 09: 00
        Yes, I grabbed some water into the cylinders through the air cleaner. The engine is over ...
        1. 0
          5 August 2015 17: 36
          What's so bad then that?
  9. +3
    5 August 2015 09: 43
    There is no chavez on them. laughing
  10. +3
    5 August 2015 10: 27
    If it’s true that ours performed on b3, while the rest on b1 somehow didn’t work out sporty last year.

    As for the afterburner of the engines (1300l.s.), mechanics at the experimental training grounds didn’t do that either)
    1. jjj
      +2
      5 August 2015 10: 43
      Two hours of engine operation may be enough
  11. +2
    5 August 2015 10: 30
    - And who claimed it would be easy and simple ?!
  12. +3
    5 August 2015 10: 43
    "I tell you in Venezuelan: faster, ...!"


    Wonderful Hochma ... I'll take it into service.
  13. +4
    5 August 2015 11: 06
    If we want to see the Venezuelan army knowing how to handle our weapons well, then such competitions are only good. As noted above, at various rallies, pearls are no less.
  14. -1
    5 August 2015 11: 26
    The most important question of this biathlon is what place the Chinese will take, and judging by the beginning they’re going well, and perhaps they will win.
  15. +1
    5 August 2015 11: 34
    Quote: blizart
    So on the track made special vibration sections to shake their electronics. I looked at the photo, but I can’t show it - I’m not that tanker. For small military tricks of the Russian I do not blame, rather the opposite.

    It should be understood that our electronics will not shake? Or is it 2 different tracks?
  16. +5
    5 August 2015 11: 34
    eh, warriors ... lol
    Americans will never come. As well, the French and other Germans. Victory is not guaranteed, and in case of defeat image losses will be significant.
  17. +1
    5 August 2015 12: 02
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

    Really .... Shoot ...
    At the end of the video, it seems, the targets went to check ....
    1. +1
      5 August 2015 14: 35
      Well done Venezuelans not so long ago received our tanks and are already participating in the "Biathlon" sorry for Chavez no longer, he would have invested money and made a "super-tank" out of the T-72.
      Well, the fact that the tank was drowned is not scary; everything happens.
      About Venezuela and not only.
      South of the border
  18. +1
    5 August 2015 14: 55
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Quote: regdan
    Was that yours? Or do you have a drink?

    Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

    This is money from Armenia and Venezuela for stupidity in bulk, and with us only for the necessary teachings smile .

    Slaughter babies (or Gaza) a lot of mind is not necessary.
  19. +6
    5 August 2015 15: 45
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

    From tanks from a safe distance, Palestinians armed with machine guns are fired?
    The Israeli army is strong, no doubt. I heard that many times. That's just impossible to verify.
    I can not imagine the clash of tank units of Israel and Russia. Although it would be interesting to look - from the side, of course, from afar.
    And in general, that it’s only to shake the air: come to your biathlon on your Merkava, show your skills and abilities. wink
    So you won’t come, there are many reasons and excuses ...
    1. -2
      5 August 2015 17: 35
      She doesn’t know how to swim ... What if they come and it will be uncomfortable? How did the Arabs in the Sinai in 1973?
  20. +2
    5 August 2015 17: 56
    Normal such games are for real men, with all the difficulties and tragedies of real male work. What did you want? I simply cannot watch modern "sport" (except for some of its types, where national identity is still present), since it is no longer a "national" - something that one can be proud of - all around there are sports "guest workers" - on the one hand , and on the other hand, some fagot judges of something, they try to "judge", put forward "doping" claims, etc. In general, no, now, sport. And I watch military games with pleasure there, you can see how real men work, you can see the team, "national spirit" Bravo Russia! Thanks to the one who came up with and began to develop the "military Olympiad"! It is significant that from pedril nations, no one came to these competitions.
  21. +6
    5 August 2015 19: 01
    There used to be teachings, not a circus.
  22. -1
    5 August 2015 21: 47
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Quote: regdan
    Was that yours? Or do you have a drink?

    Our business is engaged, and not participate in the circus.

    This is money from Armenia and Venezuela for stupidity in bulk, and with us only for the necessary teachings smile .
  23. 0
    6 August 2015 12: 21
    Normal stuntmen ....