The US was scared of the Russian "project 4202"

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The US was scared of the Russian "project 4202"Publications about the new Russian hypersonic weapons, which will undermine the entire American missile defense system, are most similar to knocking money out of Congress to the Pentagon’s needs for talk of a “threat from Moscow.” Meanwhile, when talking about the "project 4202", alarmists are not so wrong. At least Washington really has a reason to worry.

Speaking of the mysterious Russian “4202 project” or U-51 with revolutionary speed characteristics, the American media refer to the Jane's Information Group and give many details that are colorful and tragic for the American consciousness. It is even claimed that the first hypersonic missiles (or some new strategic missiles with hypersonic booster blocks) of 25 units should take up combat duty in the Dombarovsky Strategic Rocket Forces Regiment during the period from 2020 to 2025. For the United States (as confirmed by sources in Moscow), this would mean the destruction of the entire system of strategic nuclear weapons and missile defense.

In the information the most important is the source. If you trust the source, you will believe the information, no matter how fantastic it may seem initially. The Washington Free Beacon is an extremely conservative edition and is directly related to the US military-industrial complex. Their idol - Ronald Reagan, Hillary Clinton for them - the horror in the flesh, and more than half of the headings consist of horror stories about the "Russian threat", as well as the threat of Chinese, Iranian and North Korean (these are specialized sections). It is the WFB that regularly informs American readers about Russian bombers off the coast of California, Iran’s underground nuclear plants and the achievements of hackers from Shanghai and Pyongyang.
At the same time, they cannot be called inventors or story-tellers, just people sometimes shift accents in the required direction and exaggerate paints. In addition, the presentation of the material sometimes changes when translated into Russian. So, in our case, almost every paragraph of the original text about the “4202 object” contains the word “hypothetical”. This is an important detail.

The author of the sensation is also remarkable. This is not a young journalist in search of "hot", but a publicist, well-known in intelligence circles and the military-industrial complex, publicist Bill Hertz, during Clinton who worked as a columnist for The Washington Times (not to be confused with the semi-official The Washington Post) and famous for his exclusive exposing materials intelligence, international trade in weapons and technology. In 1996, he uncovered a scheme for the supply of nuclear technologies from China to Pakistan, in 1997, he accused Russia of a similar deal with Iran, relying on data from Mossad (where did he get it?), In 2004, he again denounced Russia for the supply of weapons of mass destruction in Syria, in 2008, he was summoned to California in the case of a Chinese spy who stole rocket technology, but refused to name his sources, citing the fifth amendment.

He is also the author of six books with titles like “Chinese threat”, “Failure” (about American special services after September 11) and “Treachery” (about Clinton administration). His weekly column is called "Inside the Rings" and is dedicated to the Pentagon and the MIC weekdays (the internal structure and architecture of the building of the US Department of Defense resemble rings). Nobody even tries to hide his close relations with the CIA, like his extreme right-wing views (he used to ruin the life of Bill, and now he is aggressively spoiling Hillary). So, it’s just not going to fantasize on a given topic Bill Hertz, his reputation is more precious.

At the same time, the sensation about the “4202 object” is not such a sensation. Designs of devices capable of exceeding the speed of sound in 5 – 7, have been developed in the USSR and the USA in parallel since the 80-s. The USSR was the first to succeed: a hypersonic experimental aircraft (GEL), it’s X-90, was created by the Raduga ICD at the end of 80, but in 1992, the project was closed for obvious reasons. He left a model, which for some reason was exhibited several times at the MAKS in Zhukovsky, although no work on the topic was carried out until the 2000s.

Apparently, they were added. The American acting analogue X-51 strikingly resembles the Soviet project, forgotten even externally. If (according to unconfirmed data) the Soviet rocket was developing in a straight line speed in 10 000 kilometers per hour (it was dropped in the stratosphere from an airplane), then the American analog accelerated to 11 200 from the third time (the first launches were not very successful). Now in the USA (according to official data) it is planned to achieve a stable speed in 5 – 6 sound. In theory, the X-51 should, over the years through 10 – 15, generally supplant modern ballistic missiles.

The Americans are betting on hypersonic rockets when planning the strategy of the so-called rapid global strike (BSU) - applying one missile volley of maximum destructive effect on the objects of the Russian strategic missile forces and control centers. If it is necessary to eliminate the Russian strategic nuclear component with one movement and paralyze power, it requires hypersonic missiles that carry a small but still nuclear charge. This is the modern concept of atomic war when viewed from the Pentagon.

So far, the combat use of anything hypersonic is impossible for objective reasons. Theoretically, it is quite possible to raise such a thing into a near-earth orbit - and throw it down. But to manage it at a speed of more than 10 000 kilometers per hour, no one has yet learned. There is no guarantee that the slightest deviation from a straight line in the dense layers of the atmosphere will not break the head, obeying the laws of physics. In addition, Americans have traditional problems with quickly combustible fuel and engines in general - they do not work with them. This is the result of over-enthusiasm for manned Shuttles, as a result, the design thought in rocket production has died down, engines have to be bought in Russia despite sanctions.

The last two X-51 tests (in 2011 and 2012) were failures. The first rocket received an order for self-destruction just because of problems with control, and the second completely "went crazy." According to a number of data, now the USA has serious problems with the further development of hypersonic rockets - and this is when all the programs related to the BSU strategy are actively reanimated.
The general message of the column of Bill Hertz: these Russians are again ahead of us and (hypothetically) put the hypersonic missile on combat duty in 10 years. Some of the details, clearly taken from the ceiling (as, for example, indications of Dombarovsky, aka Yasnensky polygon in the Orenburg region as a location), are intended to add credibility. From the same ceiling, perhaps, the figure was taken in 25 devices, for some reason tied to the Sarmat rocket. Considering the reputation of Bill Hertz as the author who opens with his foot any door to the CIA, the American reader should take all these details as, let's say, based on something and close to reality. Beautiful move. The article, of course, does not say in plain text: Congress, give the Pentagon more money for a hypersonic rocket, otherwise Clinton will come and take everything in general, but this is the implication. Everyone should be afraid of the new species form of the Russian threat, from which there is no protection.

Meanwhile, Bill Hertz, although pursuing his goals, is not so wrong. According to some data, in Russia, work on creating a new hypersonic rocket (or even a whole family of devices with similar characteristics) was resumed five years ago and is being conducted very actively. They even occupied several KBs at once, and not just like in the USSR - only “Rainbow”. And it is quite possible that experimental launches can really be made. Whether this device is called Yu-71 or something else is a minor question. But if he is really able to develop speed in 11 200 kilometers per hour (that is, the same as the American project that has come to a standstill) in dense layers of the atmosphere, this is a serious breakthrough. At least, this is a real opportunity to reach a new level of technology, which will leave far behind the existing and even promising American missile defense system. But it’s still early to say anything about this.
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  1. +6
    1 August 2015 06: 03
    We hope and believe!
    1. +1
      1 August 2015 07: 39
      Yes, what are you?
      The same edition is saturated with alarmism.
      This is the same as arguing that Ron Paul represents the main public (and imperious) point of view in the states.
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    3. +16
      1 August 2015 08: 32
      Are the USA scared? The only thing they are afraid to be afraid of is the introduction of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the way out of their colonial dependence. hi
      1. +6
        1 August 2015 11: 36
        as soon as the states begin to howl that it is necessary to resume negotiations on the treaties of ceo, rsmd, and pro contracts, so that means that they again lag behind and will try to limit as papers with humpback
    4. +1
      1 August 2015 15: 13
      You better not say ---- the flag is in the hands of you guys !!!!! this is just great news !!!!!
      1. 0
        12 August 2015 09: 16
        Quote: holgert
        You better not say ---- the flag is in the hands of you guys !!!!! this is just great news !!!!!

        What is the "distinctiveness" of this news? "hypersonic missiles" ????
        As far as I remember, the Topol-M warhead has a speed of 7.3 km / s when entering the ballistic section of the trajectory. Isn't it "hypersound"?
        And the 1968 "old man" Minuteman-3 has a combat unit speed of 6,7 km / s.

        As for Janes, this is a reputable office, and you can safely believe it. For me personally, it was a shock to find a satellite image of our Tu-1985 in the Janes air directory for 160 year
  2. +4
    1 August 2015 06: 42
    But if he is really able to develop in dense atmosphere at a speed of 11 kilometers per hour (that is, the same as the stalled American project) is a major breakthrough. to what temperature will the "apparatus" heat up? won't burn?
    1. +2
      1 August 2015 10: 42
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      But if he is really able to develop in dense layers of the atmosphere a speed of 11 200 kilometers per hour

      ... hmmm laughing bully
      There was such a project underway ... We wanted together with 3,14ndosami ...
      We’ll implement it ourselves, because 3,14ndoses are 3,14ndoses and they will be forever ... bully
      1. +1
        2 August 2015 02: 00
        for 3,14ndosy are 3,14ndosy and they will be forever ...


        And that is true. This is a diagnosis!
      2. 0
        2 August 2015 22: 19
        Quote: Rus2012
        Wait, we will realize it ourselves

        ... regarding the “4202 project” or U-51 in the open press, the following became known -
        Currently, research on the ongoing operational-strategic and technical aspects of creating high-precision strategic missile weapons (WTRS) has been practically completed. In a number of research and development projects, the military-strategic expediency of creating an HTMC with new equipment, including with penetrating warheads in both nuclear and conventional (non-nuclear) equipment and in ultra-low-power nuclear equipment, has been substantiated. The threat of use or the limited phased use of HTRS in certain conditions can deter the opposing side from unleashing or escalating aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons and ultra-small nuclear weapons. A deterrent is the ability to inflict damage on the enemy, depending on the current military-strategic situation - in local, regional or large-scale wars, by guaranteed destruction of strategic targets in areas beyond the reach of general forces.
        This direction consists in the creation of controlled weapons of destruction (USP) on an interspecific basis with the maximum use of the available scientific, technical and technological resources and existing key components in organizations of industry and the Russian Ministry of Defense.
        The USP data will be part of reconnaissance-strike complexes with precision intellectualized control systems of a new generation, which will ensure the defeat of highly protected stationary, and in the future, mobile targets under the influence of anti-aircraft defense systems, radio and optical and electronic countermeasures of the enemy.
        The use of VTRSO with new ones, including penetrating USP, implies their use in single and group launches, and therefore saturation of the missile defense system with false targets cannot be the only means of overcoming the territorial or object missile defense system. It is important to reduce the visibility of combat equipment in the ranges of operation of the means of detecting and targeting missile defense and air defense systems, as well as the possibility of circumventing the affected areas or reducing the time spent in these areas.

        http://www.dancomm.ru/news/nemnogo_svobodnogo_vremeni_v_subbotu/2015-03-21-119
        1. 0
          2 August 2015 22: 22
          continued ...
          This problem can be successfully solved with the help of USP on the basis of a modular hypersonic winged vehicle (MGUKA), tests of one of the versions of which are currently underway and of a detachable homing element (SPE).
          Along with the capabilities of MGUKA and SPE, bypassing the zones affected by the missile defense system, the necessary conditions are provided for the operation of satellite and special navigation systems and an integrated multi-band optical-electronic correction and homing system in the final part of the trajectory. The proposed construction of MGUKA provides delivery of EIT in a given area with the required parameters of its movement and their separation at high speed pressures. At the site of the marching flight of the maneuvering MGUKA, its trajectory is corrected using navigation systems and a radio altimeter.
          After separation, the POC performs an autonomous controlled flight to the target area, where conditions for the functioning of finishing guidance systems in the final part of the trajectory are provided.
          SPE is created on the basis of the existing scientific and technical reserve for air-to-surface missiles, maneuvering blocks, etc., created within the frameworks of the “Fint”, “Zigzag”, “Bolid”, etc. The integrated multirange correction and homing system together with the navigation system provides high-precision guidance of the EIT on the target, practically, in any conditions of application at strategic and medium distances.
          A self-guided striking element, depending on specific tasks, can be equipped with a penetrating element with a specialized non-nuclear warhead, or modifications of low- and ultra-low-power nuclear weapons. For the "heavy" ICBM, an original design of MGUKA and SPE was proposed, with charges of increased and large power classes, ensuring the defeat of particularly significant highly protected objects.
          According to preliminary estimates, nuclear and conventional equipment options due to the high accuracy of delivery, the special design of the combat compartment and the EIT penetrator ensure the destruction of strategic targets embedded in the ground to a depth of 30 ... 100m, the destruction of internal premises of the "reinforced concrete bunker" type with a total thickness of reinforced concrete shelters to 5 ... 12m.
          The analysis showed that the proposed heat-shielding design of MGUKA, the trajectory features of the flight of MGUKA and SPE, and the active and passive PCB components that make up the combat completeness make it possible to effectively overcome a promising air defense system even with single missile launches.

          http://www.dancomm.ru/news/nemnogo_svobodnogo_vremeni_v_subbotu/2015-03-21-119

          In short, it will be a complete "arctic fox" for enemies. Full spectrum of influence on everything and everyone, incl. AUGs and other mobile-mobile targets.
          A paragraph, in short ...
    2. +4
      1 August 2015 12: 30
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      But if it is really capable of developing a speed of 11 kilometers per hour in the dense layers of the atmosphere (that is, the same as the stalled American project), this is a serious breakthrough. to what temperature will the "apparatus" heat up? won't burn?

      The entry speeds into the atmosphere of all spacecraft (both ours, and American, and all others) are not very different from the first space speed equal to 7.986 km / s. What happens to the spacecraft at the same time, I hope many imagine. If they dive straight down, then at such speeds there will be such powerful loads in the structures and such a huge heat generation due to air resistance that the apparatus will collapse and burn. Therefore, all the devices plan parallel to the Earth, gradually decreasing. But even in this case, there are disasters, such as with one of the American shuttles, which collapsed in the atmosphere during the descent.
      In this case, we are talking about flying in the atmosphere at a speed of 11 kilometers per hour. (!!!) which is one and a half times higher! It can only be an unmanned vehicle with powerful thermal protection, which will burn out during the flight.
      1. +12
        1 August 2015 17: 11
        In fact, 11200 km / h is 2.57 times slower than 7.986 km / s. PS I can’t believe that I have to write this ...
        1. +3
          1 August 2015 17: 17
          Quote: monopodman
          In fact, 11200 km / h is 2.57 times slower than 7.986 km / s.

          Right! Blunted! Something I probably ate! drinks
          1. +1
            1 August 2015 18: 22
            Most likely the project 4202 is just an invention of reality that has nothing to do with it.
      2. 0
        2 August 2015 02: 06
        The entry speeds into the atmosphere of all spacecraft (both ours, and American, and all others) are not very different from the first space velocity equal to 7.986 km / s.


        Both we and the Americans have a landing squad at 2nd space speed. (11,2 km / s). Upon returning from the moon.
    3. 0
      1 August 2015 19: 01
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      to what temperature will the "apparatus" heat up? won't burn?

      It may be moving in a plasma (or another, this is just an assumption) cavity, like a squall torpedo
      Bill Hertz, under Clinton, worked as a columnist in The Washington Times (not to be confused with the semi-official The Washington Post) and became famous for exclusive revealing materials on the topic of intelligence, the international arms trade and technology. In 1996, he uncovered a scheme for delivering nuclear technology from China to Pakistan, in 1997, he accused Russia of a similar deal with Iran, relying on data from Mossad (where did he get it?), In 2004, he again branded Russia for deliveries of weapons of mass destruction in Syria, in 2008, he was summoned to a California court in the case of a Chinese spy who stole rocket technology, but refused to identify his sources, citing the fifth amendment.
      I would really like for 3,14ndos to tell the truth
      1. 0
        2 August 2015 07: 26
        Quote: Denis
        It may be moving in a plasma (or another, this is just an assumption) cavity, like a squall torpedo

        There is a significant difference between a barrage and a hypersonic aircraft. A flurry moves in an environment with high heat capacity, which prevents its body from overheating, and the time of the flurry is limited to a maximum of 2 minutes. But a hypersonic device, in order to achieve the goal, must undergo a temperature load for an hour, or even more, while in a plasma environment, at temperatures above 2 - 3 thousand degrees. Even if the power structure can withstand this temperature, what will happen to the electronic filling and fuel after 15 to 20 minutes of flight?
        You probably know about the problems of high-speed aircraft such as SR-71 and MiG-25 (31)? A high degree of warming of the aircraft body (up to 300-400 ° C) at a speed above 3000 km / h. And what will happen at a speed of 7 - 10 thousand?
    4. 0
      2 August 2015 03: 47
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      the slightest deviation from a straight line in the dense layers of the atmosphere will tear the head apart, obeying the laws of physics.

      and turbulence zones cannot be created?
  3. +4
    1 August 2015 07: 56
    How to know, how to know .... winked
    They created the Shkval rocket-torpedo with amazing characteristics. True, for this it was necessary to introduce the principle of supercavitation, which made it possible to overcome the resistance of water.
    Maybe some mind came up with some new principle to reduce air resistance and in the laboratories the future death of America is being brought to mind - we cannot know this.
    So, if the Americans come up with horror stories for themselves and then they are afraid - always welcome. If only we were not afraid soldier
    As they say, "fear has large eyes, if only the brain does not become smaller" lol hi
    1. -5
      1 August 2015 10: 15
      The death of the US civilian population, the elite is not scared, and the gain is great, they will risk
      1. +6
        1 August 2015 13: 41
        Quote: New Communist
        The death of the US civilian population, the elite is not scared, and the gain is great, they will risk

        Why did you write this? Since when did the Russians during the war focus on the bombing of civilians?
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          2 August 2015 02: 12
          New Communist SU Yesterday, 10:15 ↑ New
          The death of the US civilian population, the elite is not scared, and the gain is great, they will risk
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          Homo (6) SU Yesterday, 13:41 ↑ New
          Quote: new communist
          The death of the US civilian population, the elite is not scared, and the gain is great, they will risk
          Why did you write this? Since when did the Russians during the war focus on the bombing of civilians?


          The use of nuclear weapons, and the Strategic Missile Forces are still nuclear weapons, are always the mass death of civilians. But this is the only thing that scares the elite. For there can be no "limited" nuclear war between us and them, and there will be no survivors on Earth.

          This is the weapon that is being developed, manufactured and mastered in the army, so NEVER, God forbid, use it!
          This is a deterrent weapon. It strikes the enemy by the very fact of its presence. And keeps him from abrupt movements.
  4. +3
    1 August 2015 08: 54
    The mattress workers really want to have such a weapon that will allow them to deliver a nuclear strike against Russia with impunity. So you want, already trembling with impatience. These eagles do not understand that it is impossible in principle. If there is "Chernobyl" throughout Russia, then they will get it. There is no longer any talk of Europe. But a retaliatory strike can also very well be. Goonies will play out.
  5. +3
    1 August 2015 09: 06
    I'm an inveterate pessimist. Immediately I remembered an old anecdote, how a little boy went to buy sour cream at the store .... While these are pseudo-scientific conversations. When put into service, then we will "mock" America. And while I'm a pessimist, there is too much "mystery" and unsolved technical problems.
    these Russians again got ahead of us and (hypothetically) in 10 years they will put a hypersonic missile on alert ... Even according to the estimates of "comrade" Bill Hertz, it will not be soon. Even if they achieve speed, then as with control, guidance, "yaw", changing the flight trajectory, etc. ....... We do not need an arrow fired from a bow!
    Hypothetically, a "fly" hitting the rocket skin at this speed will violate the geometry of the skin, and then like in a fairy tale ... On a straight trajectory, this rocket will be destroyed by a couple of scattered "nails" !!!
    1. +6
      1 August 2015 10: 57
      Quote: dima-fesko
      Hypothetically, a "fly" hitting the rocket skin at this speed will violate the skin geometry

      At this speed, the warhead goes in the plasma cloud, there are no flies in the plasma wink
      Another thing is how to maneuver, any change in trajectory at such a speed = hundreds of G overloads, or even thousands, you need to look for materials, and the air defense is not done with a finger, it already knows how to respond to such targets and in the near future no revolutionary progress in terms of improving maneuvering hypersonic targets are not foreseen - their "engines" stall during active maneuvers - so high overloads that affect the process of fuel combustion.
      1. +5
        1 August 2015 14: 28
        Quote: Locksmith
        At this speed, the warhead goes in the plasma cloud, there are no flies in the plasma
        Another thing is how to maneuver, any change in trajectory at such a speed = hundreds of G overloads, or even thousands, you need to look for materials, and the air defense is not done with a finger, it already knows how to respond to such targets and in the near future no revolutionary progress in terms of improving maneuvering hypersonic targets are not foreseen - their "engines" stall during active maneuvers - so high overloads that affect the process of fuel combustion.

        .. everything is absolutely correct .. therefore, even at the stage of the flying laboratory "Kholod" of the 70-80s, Soviet engineers worked out multiple switching on and off of the scramjet engine .. then, by placing a hydrogen generator on board, they solved the issue of heating the aircraft and the necessary supply of hydrogen on board ..
        a long time of operation of the scramjet engine was obtained - more than 77 s while maintaining the operability of the camera after turning it off;
        during flight tests, the combustion chamber worked at extreme conditions in terms of wall temperature with the implementation of the combustion process at subsonic and supersonic flow rates in the tract;
        based on the results of measurements of the parameters of the working process of the scramjet engine and the flight path of the "Kholod" GLV, the following are determined: scramjet thrust, specific thrust impulse and combustion efficiency in the chamber;
        identification of the mathematical model of the scramjet workflow is carried out taking into account the chemical reactions of hydrogen combustion in the flow path of the combustion chamber.

        hi
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 19: 51
          For the creation of nozzles, scramjet engines can find application recently theoretically predicted heat-resistant compound consisting of hafnium, nitrogen and carbon (HfN0.38C0.51), see
          http://www.dailytechinfo.org/news/7233-obnaruzhen-novyy-material-imeyuschiy-reko
          rdno-vysokuyu-na-segodnyashniy-den-temperaturesuru-plavleniya.html
          This compound will melt at a temperature of 4400 degrees Kelvin (4127 degrees Celsius), which is 200 degrees Kelvin higher than the melting temperature of any other known material, the most refractory of which is a compound of hafnium, tantalum and carbon (Hf-Ta-C), but does not contain dear tantalum.
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    2. -5
      1 August 2015 11: 21
      You forget a nuclear strike is a complex of all nuclear weapons, and then where did you get the idea that the amer’s maneuvering warhead will fly at top speed? After the destruction of our radars, 2 kilometers per hour is quite enough, and there are no problems about which you write.
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    3. +2
      1 August 2015 15: 55
      Prototypes are both old and new. It's all about working out.
      but in general it’s a military secret, don’t think that Russia has nothing in common
  6. +1
    1 August 2015 10: 12
    The Americans rely on hypersonic missiles when planning the strategy of the so-called quick global strike (BSU) - delivering with one missile salvo the maximum damaging effect on the objects of the Russian strategic missile forces and control centers. If it is necessary to eliminate the Russian strategic nuclear component and paralyze power with one movement, this requires hypersonic missiles that carry a small, but nonetheless nuclear charge. This is the modern concept of nuclear war, if you look from the Pentagon .---- Just as the New Communists warn you, delivering a simultaneous thermonuclear strike on Russia and China by January 4, 2020. There will certainly be a response from the Russian perimeter and the Chinese Strategic Missile Forces, but the Amer’s elite is it doesn’t scare, they are ready for this, they will sit out in bunkers, on carrier groups in the Chile area, and the world government, the goal for which you can risk
    1. +1
      1 August 2015 12: 37
      Quote: New Communist
      launching a simultaneous thermonuclear strike on Russia and China by January 4, 2020.

      Again, this magic number is 2020! Wait for the bomb, we should have many things appear in 2020 (according to the promises!) smile
      1. 0
        2 August 2015 10: 59
        hi-Again this is a magic number - 2020 is an optimistic number, God will let us live to see it.
    2. +1
      2 August 2015 02: 21
      The Americans rely on hypersonic missiles when planning the strategy of the so-called quick global strike (BSU) - delivering with one missile salvo the maximum damaging effect on the objects of the Russian strategic missile forces and control centers. If it is necessary to eliminate the Russian strategic nuclear component and paralyze power with one movement, this requires hypersonic missiles that carry a small, but nonetheless nuclear charge. This is the modern concept of nuclear war, if you look from the Pentagon .---- Just as the New Communists warn you, delivering a simultaneous thermonuclear strike on Russia and China by January 4, 2020. There will certainly be a response from the Russian perimeter and the Chinese Strategic Missile Forces, but the Amer’s elite is it doesn’t scare, they are ready for this, they will sit out in bunkers, on carrier groups in the Chile area, and the world government, the goal for which you can risk


      PUUUUUURGAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3. 0
      2 August 2015 18: 16
      The Americans rely on hypersonic missiles when planning the strategy of the so-called quick global strike (BSU) - delivering with one missile salvo the maximum damaging effect on the objects of the Russian strategic missile forces and control centers. If it is necessary to eliminate the Russian strategic nuclear component and paralyze power with one movement, this requires hypersonic missiles that carry a small, but nonetheless nuclear charge. This is the modern concept of nuclear war, if you look from the Pentagon .---- Just as the New Communists warn you, delivering a simultaneous thermonuclear strike on Russia and China by January 4, 2020. There will certainly be a response from the Russian perimeter and the Chinese Strategic Missile Forces, but the Amer’s elite is it doesn’t scare, they are ready for this, they will sit out in bunkers, on carrier groups in the Chile area, and the world government, the goal for which you can risk


      PUUUUUURGAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. +4
    1 August 2015 11: 18
    "Some details, clearly taken from the ceiling (such as indications of Dombarovskiy, aka Yasnenskiy polygon in the Orenburg region as a location), are intended to add credibility" ...

    Nothing from the ceiling, but from our own media and the Runet ...

    PS In the USSR, to speak openly about such things meant "sit down" and sit down for a long time ... Why are they now writing about everything so openly ??? Such an impression - well, how is it measured in kindergarten, who writes next ...
    It is better to quietly, silently do something like this, in a collision with which the enemy will be both shocked and unarmed ...
    1. +4
      1 August 2015 13: 13
      Quote: veksha50
      It is better to quietly, silently do something like this, in a collision with which the enemy will be both shocked and unarmed ...

      This is the eternal race of "sword and shield". As soon as they create hyper sonic weapons, complexes, systems, they will immediately find ways to neutralize them. Another question is how difficult and costly it will all be.
      Science does not stand still and work is already underway to create systems operating on other physical laws that were not even known in the recent past. And the day is not far when blasters, plasma weapons, force fields, etc. will appear ...
      And as far as the topic of this article is concerned, everything is quite natural, as the developers of weapons do not sit around. Therefore, I think that we will see hyper-sounding aircraft and missiles in the near future. hi
    2. 0
      2 August 2015 08: 21
      Quote: veksha50
      It is better to quietly, silently do something like this, in a collision with which the enemy will be both shocked and unarmed ...

      It is on this principle that the arms race is built. But this is only a principle, an ideal, and reality, alas, is far from ideal. In the 60s - 80s of the last century, space systems aimed at destroying life were developed, then there was a lot of money, both in the USSR and in America. Built "Shuttles", "Burans", capable of launching into space a serious weapon, weighing up to 20 tons !!! By the way, these space "airplanes" were created precisely for these purposes! In the 90s, when the USSR collapsed, this race seemed to have subsided a little, now it has begun again, with renewed vigor. Only the problem arose, neither the United States nor Russia has any money, capitalism has devoured itself in this fucking race. And now we are waiting for WHEN someone will lose their nerves or go mad the computers that control these systems, and we will bury ourselves with old, already rotten, primitive missiles created by our ancestors, simultaneously creating new systems for the destruction of people.
      The wrong way has gone humanity ...
  8. +1
    1 August 2015 12: 19
    The main message of this - come on, come on, come on!
    There are missiles or not, but fear must be paid.
    It’s just that the economy is now being driven not by the civilian component, but by the military. Both with them and with us. Therefore, both opponents need money. It’s more convenient to take out billions of dollars from the budget.
    And no one will pickle! It’s patriotic for the defense of the country.
    It is highly doubtful that we have anything. More believable is what they have. An example with engines is not convinced. Their engine on the Chatelet was more durable. He worked all the time lifting and landing. Our engines stood on both Energy and Buran. Energy raised on its engines, Buran maneuvered and lowered.
  9. +2
    1 August 2015 13: 48
    The article is a solid vinaigrette - the author mixed two things together: 1. Hypersonic missiles (GZR) after launching from an airplane, submarines, NK and flying on hypersound at an altitude of 20-40 km and used at the BSU on land (strategic nuclear forces, missile defense, etc.) e.) and marine targets (RCC). 2. Hypersonic devices (GZA): maneuvering ICBM units that can move after separation (to plan for 30 minutes at a distance of 3000 km. GZR and GZA have only one common problem - aiming at a target at a speed of 3M or more in conditions when on the surface HF plasma flow occurs (signal from HF cannot be detected).
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      1 August 2015 16: 23
      Quote: peresmehsnik
      : maneuvering ICBM units that, after separation, are capable of moving (to plan in 30 minutes at a distance of 3000 km.

      The Buran had a lateral maneuver of 2000 km, due to the glider, due to which the maneuvering blocks had a maneuver of 3000 km?
      1. +1
        1 August 2015 18: 43
        Quote: rosarioagro
        The Buran had a lateral maneuver of 2000 km, due to the glider, due to which the maneuvering blocks had a maneuver of 3000 km?


        "Buran had a lateral maneuver of 2000 km, due to the glider" - not only due to aerodynamics and control planes, but also due to DOs (control engines, liquid-propellant engines), which operate up to 20 km in height from above.

        According to "the maneuvering units have a maneuver of 3000 km" - the author apparently did not mean a lateral maneuver ...

        Below, the capabilities of "Buran"
  10. +1
    1 August 2015 14: 28
    Such articles have long had to start like this: USA AGAIN scared. They are scared on the site with such a headline every week.
  11. 0
    1 August 2015 16: 12
    If you are afraid of 3,14ndos - then respect!
    And this scribbler stupidly fulfills the order of the CIA to form public opinion in 3,14 dodrasii, like look what kind of Russians are bad, we bring them democracy and freedom, and they bristled with missiles.
  12. +2
    1 August 2015 16: 38
    As the saying goes: "there is no smoke without fire ...." The Yankees definitely saw an object that scared them. And this is good.
  13. +1
    1 August 2015 22: 53
    I really liked the presentation of the material in the article - thoughtfully, thoroughly, without the slightest alarm. There is not much data, but the author handles them very competently. Respect!
  14. +1
    2 August 2015 15: 13
    The title of the article killed on the spot. Come up with something new comrades, and then a continuous "no analogues and states in horror." The United States is not terrified; they are not stupid there either. There is a new threat - they will develop a response. Don't litter your site with "housewives" headlines.
    1. +1
      2 August 2015 16: 33
      Quote: van zai
      The title of the article killed on the spot.

      I completely agree with you. In my opinion, modern writers have completely forgotten how to invent names. The US military does not have to be afraid of Russia, because America surpasses Russia in the number of arms and the number of troops. But they have plans to conquer Russia and they naturally do not want to get in the ass, like Hitler Germany. And for a successful attack and conquest, new weapons systems are needed in large numbers, and if you do not knock money out of Congress, then soon there will be a lag, not superiority. Readers who sincerely believe that America was scared that they need extra latches, diapers, and I sincerely regret these readers. If they were afraid, then America would never have fought and forced other countries to follow America by violence. Their army is constantly fighting, which means it has experience in real battles. Also, I found cowards who constantly fight in the trenches, in the air and on the seas and oceans.
  15. +1
    2 August 2015 22: 24
    Quote: Homo
    Why did you write this? Since when did the Russians during the war focus on the bombing of civilians?

    Well, actually a bet on a reciprocal counter or reciprocal result. This is understandable and requires no explanation. It is with such a blow that a blow to already empty mines becomes meaningless. Only cities and industrial centers remain

    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    but the author handles them very competently. Respect!

    Thoughtfully? Yah. Since when has a missile not put into service suddenly received an index. And not just not tested, but in general it is not known how many times it has flown, experimental. And it gives indexing "thoughtfully"

    Quote: egor1712
    As the saying goes: "there is no smoke without fire ...." The Yankees definitely saw an object that scared them. And this is good

    Explain why it suddenly scared them? Do not forget that they have been testing their development poorly or well for about 8-10 years, and ours has flown two or three times and is already a source of terror for Americans ...
    Source of course super-credible

    PS In the USSR, to speak openly about such things meant "sit down" and sit down for a long time ... Why are they now writing about everything so openly ??? Such an impression - well, how is it measured in kindergarten, who writes next ...

    Quote: veksha50
    "Some details, clearly taken from the ceiling (such as indications of Dombarovskiy, aka Yasnenskiy polygon in the Orenburg region as a location), are intended to add credibility" ...

    Landfill data not taken from the ceiling. They are online