SAO 2С34 "Khosta" modernized SAU 2С1 "Carnation"




CJSC 234 "Khosta" was designed at the Motovilikha plant in Perm. In essence, this is the same ACS 2C1 "Carnation", but has undergone a major upgrade. According to some reports, the release of 2C34 started in the 2003 year. The crew consists of four people, sheet armor, rolled, combat weight is 16 tons. Armament: 2А80-1 cannon with vertical pointing angle from -2 to 80 degrees and 7,62 PKT machine gun mounted on the roof of the turret. In terms of its technical characteristics, the Carnation was a pretty good, unpretentious and reliable fighting vehicle, but today the 2C1 is certainly outdated.



The undercarriage of the new “Hosts” BS 2С1 (advanced BS МТ-LB) was inherited from the same “Carnation”, it was only installed new armament, in the new turret of circular rotation units and aggregates were used, some innovations and developments are present on the “XA "Based on the BMP-2, 31C3" Nona "SVK and experimental" Object-2 ". An advanced 23А118 - mm mm 2 semi-automatic rifled gun-howitzer-mortar 80А120-2, equipped with a muzzle brake, is also installed. Unlike 80А1, which has almost twice the rate of fire and the ability to fire all types of 2 mm projectiles, at a distance of 80 km. High-explosive shells and mines also provide for the possibility of firing modern XNUMVBOX120 “Kitolov-13” projectiles with a passive homing head that receives the reflection signal of a laser target designator, with the exception of the cumulative 3BBC112 projectile. Shooting can be conducted without prior training, as from closed, half-closed and open positions with direct or semi-direct fire, in addition, Khost is capable of destroying targets on the reverse slopes, which is an important factor in combat operations in mountainous or hilly terrain.



The upgrade also touched the electronic filling of the new 2-34, although the complete set, in order to reduce the total cost of production, will be installed only on vehicles of battery commanders and above. The rest of the CAO will be without ASUNO (this sometimes amounts to 50% of the total cost of the machine), which makes Khost much cheaper to produce and, therefore, more attractive to the global arms market. But at the same time, with lower combat qualities than, for example, the very very expensive, but more modern CAO 2C31 “Vienna”, which, among other things, can even use NATO ammunition for firing. But its release, for mysterious reasons, is practically curtailed in favor of simpler and outdated, but in demand (mostly developing third world countries) on the world arms market, cheap samples. Here is such a budget version of the combination of 2C23 "Nona" and 2C1 "Gvozdika", although the modern Russian army, the army of 21-th century need more modern and high-tech machines. Calculated not on the external market and created taking into account the purchasing power of potential customers, but focused primarily on strengthening and enhancing the defense capability of their country.



Nevertheless, the market dictates its own conditions, the plants of the defense industry of Russia survive as they can, and Khost 2C34 "Khosta" begins to enter the troops, but so far it is difficult to talk about its fighting qualities, the more there are, as already mentioned, two options for equipment and configuration cars. If we consider and evaluate the “commander” option, then this is certainly a formidable fighting machine, given the maneuverability and driving characteristics of the chassis “Carnations”, which showed themselves from the best side during the war in Afghanistan. According to the memoirs of the crews, participants of those events, who warmly responded to the “sauska” and noted the simplicity, reliability and durability, coupled with the extraordinary stability of the armored corps to undermining anti-tank mines. New weapons, plus equipment for automated control systems (automated guidance and fire control systems) will allow the most complex combat missions to be carried out in a modern war, but the budget option is inferior in many respects to these characteristics, and this, unfortunately, is a large part of the machines. As we remember in stories, at one time, radio stations were also installed not on all machines of the prewar period, what it led to and what price it was paid for in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War, we all know.



For now, the claims of some sources that - “... the efficiency of the machine is three times higher than that of the non-modernized ...”, to put it mildly, raise great doubts. Do not forget that this is still not a new car, but a deeply modernized old model of the ACS developed in the USSR.
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  1. Owl
    Owl 26 October 2011 08: 38 New
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    It is unfortunate that the “sale” is offered a more modern and advanced version of the execution than in the Russian army.
  2. Vadivak 26 October 2011 08: 39 New
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    "... the efficiency of the machine is three times higher than that of a non-modernized one ..." cause, to put it mildly, great doubts. Do not forget that this is, after all, not a new machine, but a deeply modernized old self-propelled gun model developed in the USSR.

    Twenty five again! On the chassis from 2C1 Gvozdika - MT-LBush (product 26) a new tower was installed (combat compartment) - a new self-propelled gun is obtained for less money. This option is an effective modernization of the “Carnation” with the rapid receipt of new systems according to their characteristics. Che wrong?
  3. Sergh
    Sergh 26 October 2011 10: 52 New
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    Within the framework of the state contract, Motovilikhinsky Plants OJSC, one of the largest defense enterprises in Perm, will supply 1,7 billion rubles for the needs of the Ministry of Defense. According to the Ministry of Health, under the terms of the contract, by November 25, 2011, the enterprise must ship 120 mm 2C34 Hosta artillery, 120 mm 2C23 Nona-SVK self-propelled artillery, towed 2B23 Nona-M1 mortars ", And multiple launch rocket systems 2B17M. Earlier, the Director General of the enterprise Nikolay Bukhvalov said that in 2011 the volume of state defense orders for the enterprise doubled. By 2015, the holding intends to double sales and bring revenue to 20 billion rubles.



    This is a 120-mm towed breech-loading mortar 2B-23 "Nona-M1".
    1. kesa1111
      kesa1111 27 October 2011 03: 25 New
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      On the picture: Pilot installation of RUAG 120-mm muzzle-loading mortar on the chassis of the Piranha 8x8 armored car, Switzerland
      http://www.vokrugsveta.ru/vs/article/6668/
      120-MM TOWED EXCHANGE MINOMET "NONA-M1"
      http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/TiVOut0809/NonaM/NonaM001.htm
    2. erix-xnumx 27 October 2011 15: 14 New
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      Actually, the figure depicts some kind of self-propelled product, not towed.
  4. kord1215 26 October 2011 11: 48 New
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    More unsuccessful modernization in honorable artillery, probably, would never be and never will be. It was necessary to think of it, to make a battalion of regimental self-propelled guns, while reducing the firing range from 18 to 13 km, and this is with the global trend of increasing the firing range! If you really wanted to get rid of the 122mm caliber, then it would be more logical to replace it with the 152mm PAT-B, on the same carriage as the D-30, which was on the Carnation! 120mm Nona and Vienna are definitely excellent baalon self-propelled guns, but why turn them into battalion SPGs are more powerful systems, is this an obvious step backwards? And half the filling of modernized self-propelled guns only emphasizes that stupidity in Russia is not eradicated.
  5. runway 26 October 2011 12: 58 New
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    The article explains the reasons for this modernization - the plants survive as they can. But what armament is it planned to deploy to the HOST? If in the RV&A SV, then all artillery brigades are armed with 152 mm caliber systems. Remain airborne. And they will have to persuade them for a very long time to replace "NONA" with this new product ....
    PS Even with a fair wind, from the mountain, and in Africa, "Carnation" is not designed for a firing range of 18 km. Tabular - 15.250.
  6. kord1215 26 October 2011 16: 16 New
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    It’s impossible to shoot with really old shells for more than 15,3 km, but here is a link to the magazine Army of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus
    http://navynews.ru/?p=658
    where is it written:
    "For D-30, special long-range projectiles were also developed, including high-explosive fragmentation explosives manufactured in Croatia, which allow to reach the maximum firing range of 17 630 m. The use of active-reactive shells allows increasing the firing range to 21 900 meters,"
    this is still significantly larger than for 2A80-1.
  7. SIA
    SIA 26 October 2011 17: 58 New
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    Good car. Like a light reconnaissance tank. In which case he can snap back, it will not seem to anyone.
    1. SkiF_RnD 19 July 2014 20: 38 New
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      ... a scout? Hosta? Explain something like that ...
  8. indrik
    indrik 26 October 2011 21: 17 New
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    the market dictates its conditions! Already bullied with this market, how can the market affect the country's defense capability? For yourself, quality maintainability and efficiency should be in the first place, not market expediency.
  9. Victor 26 October 2011 21: 41 New
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    The main thing in this modernization is the installation of a combined (universal) gun, capable of working with both shells and 120 mm mines, which can significantly expand the range of tasks. The principle is the same as on “Nona”, on which I served twenty years. As for reducing the caliber, then there is no need to be sad. As with Nona, the standard ammunition is an ammunition of increased power and, in terms of its striking effect, is equivalent to a 152 mm projectile. The use of high-precision ammunition with an active-jet engine allows you to level the difference in firing range with increased accuracy. And most importantly, the battalion, which in the conditions of brigade formation of the army becomes an independent tactical unit, finally gets a real universal and more powerful, in fact brisant action of the ammunition, self-propelled gun. Definitely a good tool. There will be an opportunity, I am sure, and the electronics will be brought to mind.
    1. runway 1 November 2011 17: 33 New
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      Victor.
      Please, tell me the index of a high-precision active-rocket projectile for NONA and Carnation. I would also like to clarify the separation standards for this munition.
      Thank you.
      1. classicist2001
        classicist2001 5 November 2011 03: 12 New
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        As for the GRAU index, I’m not sure. According to the shells - "Kitolov-2" and "Kitolov-2M". In the mines - "Edge". See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXy_cZc-UAI. But in the troops, in my opinion, they are not.

        According to GRAU indexes, you can search on the following sites:

        http://xn----7sbb5ahj4aiadq2m.xn--p1ai/guide/army/index_grau.shtml
        http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/18/790481.html
        http://saperka.ru/indeksy-grau-boepripasy


        From Wiki:

        “The Bazalt team was engaged in the ammunition for the Nona-S gun. The work on creating 120-mm rounds was led by E. I. Dubrovin, first deputy director of the Bazalt GNPP and chief designer G. E. Belukhin. Leading designers of 120 mm shots were: for a shot with a high-explosive fragmentation projectile (code “Transmitter”) - M. M. Konovaev, with high-explosive fragmentation projectile (“Binder”) - Yu. G. Snopok, with a cumulative projectile (“ Approach-2 ”) - V. A. Priorov.

        The ammunition includes all types of Russian and foreign 120-mm mines, specially designed ammunition with a high-explosive fragmentation projectile and an active rocket-propelled artillery projectile with ready-to-use rifles in the lead belt, guided missiles of the Kitolov guided weapons system.
        See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A19
  10. serezhafedotow
    serezhafedotow 26 October 2011 22: 37 New
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    There will be a "Host" and the like. And the Coalition was covered up ...
  11. rumpeljschtizhen 27 October 2011 03: 22 New
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    reconnaissance tank

    ????????????????????? how do you write understand ........... from an airborne self-propelled gun .. tank reconnaissance ??????
  12. classicist2001
    classicist2001 27 October 2011 08: 57 New
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    In fact, they are trying to replace the towed 120-mm mortar "Sled" of the regimental unit with self-propelled guns capable of firing with 120-mm mines and shells. On the one hand, it’s not bad, since the battalion unit of the “new look” gets a more powerful weapon of fire, and also self-propelled. Modernization of the old Gvozdyk probably costs less than the purchase of new self-propelled guns Nona-SVK or Vienna.
    But at the same time, there are not so many 120 mm shells in the Russian army (as opposed to 120 mm mines). Not NATO tea. In which case, what will the Hosts fire after the exhaustion of 120-mm shells? It would be more logical to increase the caliber of the 2A51 gun to 122 mm and provide firing with both 120 mm caliber mines and old 122 mm caliber shells. But the thing probably again rests on the money to develop a new 122-mm gun.
  13. dred
    dred 18 November 2011 13: 23 New
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    guys on the basis of what is done do not tell.
  14. Balagan 17 March 2016 20: 04 New
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    At first I did not recognize the dear 2C1 from the picture)))