Ukraine will return to service the T-80B and T-80BV tanks

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During the so-called the anti-terrorist operation, the armed forces of Ukraine suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment. According to various sources, the Ukrainian military lost at least 200-250 tanks. Some of this equipment became trophies of the militia of New Russia, the remaining machines were destroyed. For these reasons, the current Kiev authorities are forced to take measures aimed at restoring the combat effectiveness of armored units.


T-80UD


The other day in the Ukrainian mass media there were reports of the return to service of the decommissioned equipment. In the foreseeable future, the army will receive a number of restored main battle tanks T-80B and T-80BV. Due to the restoration of such armored vehicles, it is planned to equip some units of the armed forces, which will have to participate in an “anti-terrorist operation” with the required equipment.

According to Ukrainian media, the reconstructed T-80B family of tanks will be used in highly mobile airborne assault forces (VDV) units. Each amphibious brigade is supposed to form its own tank company, the purpose of which will be to reinforce the unit during combat operations. In addition, it is reported that the paratroopers will receive not only tanks, but also some reinforcement of artillery. Details of plans involving the supply of artillery, have not yet been announced.

The intention to return to the system a long-decommissioned technique is associated with some noticeable problems that are already indicated. Thus, the Ukrainian media report that the Ministry of Defense will have to look for specialists with the skills to operate T-80B family tanks. For various reasons, the Ukrainian army may experience problems finding former military personnel who can manage such equipment. Already announced the search for volunteers who will be able to exploit the recovered armored vehicles.

The Ukrainian press has already managed to find out the details of the existing plans. At the moment, it is supposed to remove from storage, restore and transfer to highly mobile 50 landing troops tanks of T-80B and T-80BV types. It is known that this technique is in a disassembled state, due to which its return to service will be associated with certain difficulties. At the assembly of the necessary equipment will need to spend some time. In addition, appropriate funding will be required.

According to the directory The Military Balance 2014, there are several modifications of X-NUMX T-165 tanks on Ukrainian storage bases. According to other sources, the T-80B tank and the 123 T-80 tank are in storage. The remaining 25-80 machines, apparently, belong to the modification of T-XNUMHUD with a diesel engine. There is information about the features of the operation of most of the T-15 tanks, now belonging to Ukraine. These cars served in the units stationed in the GDR. After the withdrawal from Germany, the tanks were left in open areas, where they were until now. Thus, the state of the cars offered for restoration leaves much to be desired.

In addition to the obvious difficulties with the restoration of equipment, which had been standing in open areas for several decades and, probably, without any maintenance, other problems await the Ukrainian military. The most obvious problem is related to the main features of the T-80B and T-80BV tanks. In contrast to the relatively small T-XNUMHUD, cars with the letter “B” were equipped with gas turbine engines. Thus, future operators of refurbished equipment will have to face specific problems and operating features associated with the type of engine used.

Ukraine will return to service the T-80B and T-80BV tanks
T-80BV at one of the Ukrainian storage bases


The T-80B and T-80BV tanks were equipped with gas turbine engines of the GTD-1000T family. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Klimov firm engaged in the production of such products remained in Russia. Given the recent developments in the international arena, the statements of the Ukrainian leadership and the general economic situation in Ukraine, it can be assumed that the restored tanks will not receive new gas turbine engines. The likelihood of an order for the supply of the necessary Russian-made engines tends to zero.

Nevertheless, the technician planned for restoration may need a new power plant, since the existing units are in unsatisfactory condition. It can be assumed that in the course of repair, the restored tanks will receive new diesel engines of Ukrainian production. The defense industry of Ukraine already has experience of similar refinement of the T-80 family of tanks. Thus, the project of its own development T-84, among other things, implied the use of 1200-strong diesel 6ТD-2. A further development of the T-84 is the Oplot tank, which also uses a diesel engine.

Replacing engines looks fundamentally possible, but may require increased funding. The economic situation in Ukraine leaves much to be desired, which is why the full funding of the restoration with re-motorization remains in doubt.

Tanks that have been idle for a long time need not only repairs to the power plant. In accordance with the current views of specialists and military, a modern main tank should be equipped with dynamic protection systems. T-80B tanks did not carry such equipment. Machines of the T-80BV type, in turn, were a direct development of the T-80B, and one of the main differences was the presence of dynamic protection "Contact". Thus, the restored T-80B will need to be equipped with dynamic protection, and such units of T-80BV tanks may need to be replaced.

Some questions are caused by the intention of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to transfer the restored tanks to highly mobile airborne troops. Such plans may indicate that the Ukrainian airborne troops are gradually turning from a separate type of armed forces with their own specific tasks into a kind of motorized infantry. The state of the air force and the absence of “native” tasks do not allow the command to use the airborne forces for their intended purpose, as a result of which the units of these troops are forced to act in the same battle formations with ground forces.

Combat experience of various airborne units, as well as the intention of the command to strengthen these troops with their own tanks and artillery can serve as confirmation of this version. In addition, such plans may indicate the precarious state of all the armed forces of Ukraine.

It is already known that the Kharkov tank repair plant is engaged in the recovery of equipment taken out of storage. Work has begun, about fifty restored cars are supposed to be handed over to the troops by the end of the current year.

If the Ukrainian military manages to find money to restore at least 50 T-80B and T-80BV tanks, and the tank repair enterprises will cope with the tasks assigned to them, then the armed forces will have to face another difficult problem. Currently, the Ukrainian Armed Forces in parallel operate T-64 and T-72 tanks of several modifications. In addition, the troops have some insignificant number of tanks T-84 and "Oplot". In accordance with current plans, in the foreseeable future, the tank fleet of the Ukrainian army should be replenished with vehicles of the T-80 family.

Thus, several types of tanks belonging to different families are already being operated in parallel in the armed forces of Ukraine. In addition, the military intend to begin operating two more models of tanks, not belonging to the families already in use.

This situation makes us recall the peculiarities of the Soviet armored forces. Since the mid-seventies, the USSR was armed with three types of main tanks, not counting their numerous modifications. All this seriously hampered the operation and maintenance of equipment. Nevertheless, despite all the problems of an economic nature, the Soviet Union could afford the maintenance of a fleet of various types of equipment. Ukraine’s ability to cope with a similar task, even on a smaller scale, is doubtful.

Work on the restoration of 50 main tanks, taken from storage, has already begun. Put this technique is expected before the end of the year. Nevertheless, the successful implementation of such an order is still in doubt. The situation in Ukraine is now taking shape in such a way that all similar projects face a lot of problems, both at the project development stage and during the execution of work. What will be the result - time will tell.


On the materials of the sites:
http://112.ua/
http://vestnik-rm.ru/
http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
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  1. +9
    29 May 2015 05: 51
    Who would doubt the junta has one fate - war .....
    1. +12
      29 May 2015 17: 34
      According to Ukrainian media, the restored tanks of the T-80B family will be used in divisions of highly mobile landing troops (Airborne Forces)

      NOT IN URKAIN OF MARINEERS!
      They are "cell phones"! It used to be "aero", now "high". The word "landing" in the names of the two brigades does not give the Bandera scum the right to consider themselves paratroopers and to dishonor the Margelovsky emblems, vests and berets!
      Porosyonkov's "fagots" have an emblem - "wolf's hook", a vest - an embroidered shirt, a beret - a straw wing!
      1. +6
        29 May 2015 20: 52
        Shamanov recently asked for tanks in the airborne ...
        1. gal
          -1
          30 May 2015 11: 54
          "SPRUT" just.
          1. +2
            30 May 2015 21: 57
            In the near future, the Airborne Forces of Russia plan to get a tank unit to strengthen firepower, said Airborne Commander Colonel General Vladimir Shamanov.

            RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150506/1062858829.html#ixzz3beLsKDrm
    2. 0
      29 May 2015 23: 34
      it's time to decide ... who are more brothers)
    3. -2
      5 June 2015 00: 08
      Khokhlosaurs on reconstructed tanks, let them put a pedal drive or use barge haulers. The role of barge haulers can be played by radical right-wingers or cyborgs. laughing laughing laughing
  2. +7
    29 May 2015 06: 14
    Tachanki! Wheelbarrows must be returned to combat units! Unless of course there are these same combat units, and the carts themselves did not sell out! )))) laughing
    1. +12
      29 May 2015 09: 49
      Quote: Balamyt
      Tachanki! Wheelbarrows must be returned to combat units! Unless of course there are these same combat units, and the carts themselves did not sell out! )))) laughing
    2. 0
      28 June 2015 21: 35
      just for retreat !!!! laughing
  3. +5
    29 May 2015 06: 38
    The main gun, towed to the position and go to the areas covered or stand on block posts.
    1. +7
      29 May 2015 10: 49
      Sorokatonnoy towed system for the Airborne Forces? So many exquisite ideas even ukrov has not yet had. smile
  4. +3
    29 May 2015 06: 47
    arrange a sabotage at a tank repair plant or send your own there who will do so that the tank will break down after a certain time.
    1. 0
      29 May 2015 20: 39
      I doubt that something about this news. Of course it is possible to repair the T-80, only it’s impossible to adapt to fight on it. Driving mechanics need to be seriously trained. T-80 is a breakthrough tank, for the development of the success of a wide attack, but for a positional war it is not suitable.
      1. +2
        1 June 2015 18: 42
        Quote: Good
        Something I doubt about this news. Of course it is possible to repair the T-80, only here it’s adapted to fight

        It's just the opposite.
        Adapt to fight if desired can be fast. But rebuilding thirty-year tanks, especially the T-80, without spare parts (many have not produced for a long time) are not easy and extremely expensive.
        You can, of course, change the engine to diesel ...
        But, for example, the body of the BKP (gearbox) is made as part of the stern of the tank ...
        Something, something can be made up ... But how much labor and money will it take and will it be worthwhile?
        But let him bury. laughing the main banderlog gave an order to repair everything old, the huge man who joined them - with his hands the guide answered there.
    2. 0
      29 May 2015 23: 28
      Quote: ovod84
      arrange a sabotage at a tank repair plant or send your own there who will do so that the tank will break down after a certain time.

      To bring a tank into a condition suitable for military operations, while having stood for 10 years, is the same as building a tank anew. It’s just that it doesn’t make sense to put into operation, it needs modernization, and therefore money and time. Ukraine has no money, no time.
  5. +3
    29 May 2015 06: 48
    what is their condition, so that the tanks removed from storage had to be restored only 50 pcs a year! Yes, for a year at the same Kharkov plant you can make more than one hundred new ones !!!
    1. +13
      29 May 2015 08: 31
      ... So, the Ukrainian media report that the Ministry of Defense will have to look for specialists with skills in managing tanks of the T-80B family ...

      Actually, there are no big problems finding a specialist on the T-80. The controls of the machine are almost the same, the armament control complex is analogous to the T-64B, the loading mechanism is one with the T-64, the difference is in the control system and the chemical reserve. Master the T-80 to the tankman after the T-64 - there are no special problems. A little harder after 72.
      And what is the true state of the tanks of the HH - I have an idea from visiting the BHVT. Most likely, it will not be possible to restore tanks requiring gas turbine engine repair at the APU (they will be able to repair everything else). Perhaps replaced by 6TD (5TDF). And all this will cost them a lot of money.
      Since they decided to arm the Airborne Forces with 80s, it means they will be thrown into the most critical areas, respectively, the technical support bodies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not have any special problems - all the same, the militias will burn them (or capture). But seriously, there can be no question of any technical support in the situation with three MBTs (not counting the "newest" ones) for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Generally .. given the economic situation in Ukraine.
      1. +4
        29 May 2015 10: 53
        The economic situation can be neglected, money will always be found for the war. The question is more about spare parts. If they don’t find it in their warehouses and buy it in the Russian Federation or Belarus, then the seams. And they can buy it, the market is damn everywhere.
      2. 0
        29 May 2015 10: 57
        Quote: bolat19640303
        ... So, the Ukrainian media report that the Ministry of Defense will have to look for specialists with skills in managing tanks of the T-80B family ...


        I know where to find specialists - in the DPR.
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      4. +1
        29 May 2015 14: 32
        "Constructors" Lego from 64oks in storage are running out, moved to 80kami. So soon, following the example of the militia, they will take up the monuments.
      5. 0
        29 May 2015 14: 50
        Quote: bolat19640303
        Actually, there are no big problems finding a specialist on the T-80. The controls of the machine are almost the same, the armament control complex is analogous to the T-64B, the loading mechanism is one with the T-64, the difference is in the control system and the chemical reserve. Master the T-80 to the tankman after the T-64 - there are no special problems. A little harder after 72.

        It’s interesting ... That is, for the mechanical drive there is no difference between a diesel engine and a gas turbine engine?
        1. Ostwald
          +1
          29 May 2015 15: 59
          Yes, there is almost no, GTE is better than diesel in thrust, and therefore it has 4 gears, and not 7 like a diesel. The driver’s mechanic doesn’t deal with the repair of the gas turbine engine, the father-officers do not repair the gas turbine engine, the specialists do it.
          1. +1
            29 May 2015 17: 28
            Quote: Ostwald
            Yes, there is almost no, GTE is better than diesel in thrust, and therefore it has 4 gears, and not 7 like a diesel. The driver’s mechanic doesn’t deal with the repair of the gas turbine engine, the father-officers do not repair the gas turbine engine, the specialists do it.

            As for the repair, that's understandable. Gone are the days when the mechanical drive was equally "fur" and "water".

            It’s just that I very often came across allegations that mechanical drives that switched from a diesel engine to a turbine very often made standard mistakes, trying to apply the skills that got into the subcortex during the training and operation of the diesel engine. For example, they did not take into account that the turbine is more inertial than the diesel engine (more precisely, the diesel engine brakes faster than the turbine).
            1. Ostwald
              +1
              29 May 2015 18: 27
              - very often they made standard mistakes, trying to apply on it the skills driven into the subcortex during the training and operation of the diesel engine -
              I don’t think that when transferring from one type of power plant to another with approximately the same mass of mech-water, critical errors will be made by breaking the T-80 or shutting down the turbine engine. Retraining of course will be required and it will begin at low speeds, another thing is where to get so much fuel in Ukraine so that the fur-water can fill its hand on such a machine.
        2. +2
          29 May 2015 19: 24
          Quote: Alexey RA
          It’s interesting ... That is, for the mechanical drive there is no difference between a diesel engine and a gas turbine engine?

          There is a significant taxiing with GTD, it is much easier, it does not stall. And in the repair besides THEN you will not do a damn thing, just remove and replace with a working one what In general, the main thing is not to screw up and the song will be.
      6. wanderer_032
        +5
        29 May 2015 14: 51
        Quote: bolat19640303
        But seriously, there can be no question of any technical support in the situation with three MBTs (not counting the "newest" ones) for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


        But very seriously, when the Soviet troops were withdrawn from the countries of the internal affairs department, a significant part of their armored vehicles was withdrawn to Ukraine.

        If you recall the year 1991, then in the territory of Germany alone there were 2 tank armies.
        And this is not counting what was on the territory of Czechoslovakia, Poland and other countries of the Department of Internal Affairs.

        Even today, no one will say how much of various military equipment settled on the territory of Ukraine when the withdrawal of these groups of troops took place, because they simply "lost" a lot of things.
        GTE could remain in Ukraine and as a completely complete units that can be put on tanks (GTE varies on average an hour / a half) and that’s all.
        With the rest of the nodes and assemblies (especially BKP) and the LMS equipment, it is becoming more and more complicated.
        Tanks T-80B at least to the level of protection of the T-80BV bring no special problems. Only weld bonks on the armor, but KDZ boxes on them to fasten. And all the business.

        And they already throw money to them already for a long time in the war. In order for the Slavs to kill the Slavs, the West never felt sorry for the money. Because the goal justifies the medium.
        The more we shoot each other, the later it will be easier for them.
        1. Shur
          0
          1 June 2015 22: 48
          Duck they only turn on the machine, or even just add zeros in the banking system.
      7. +1
        29 May 2015 15: 42
        This refers to management features. A car with a diesel engine is not the same as a gas turbine engine. There is a big difference too. Starting from overcoming obstacles (for example, a moat, a hollow) and ending with jerking movement (city). Movements brought to automaticity on a diesel engine will only interfere. In a straight line, perhaps there is only no difference. So here there is the problem of the lack of mechanical water
    2. 0
      29 May 2015 17: 56
      It could be!
  6. +4
    29 May 2015 06: 48
    Quote: private person
    The main gun, towed to the position and go to the areas covered or stand on block posts.

    It doesn't make much sense. The 80-ka "B" is interesting because it can fly like a helicopter. But only if you can move from the spot.

    In general, something tells me that of the 165-tees that were in storage, the best preserved have long been sold, and the rest, for the most part - are full of firewood.

    Flag m in the hands to restore such good ..
  7. +5
    29 May 2015 06: 55
    In the Ukrainian army, if I may call it that, 10 years ago everything was stolen.
  8. +9
    29 May 2015 06: 57
    paratroopers will receive not only tanks, but also some kind of reinforcement of artillery.

    Trunks will expand - to increase the caliber.
    return to duty will be associated with certain difficulties. It will take some time to assemble the necessary equipment. In addition, appropriate funding will be required.

    Eccentrics: and why steam? He appointed the man a tanker - and then let him spin as he wants: the tank restores for his own, buys fuel. And no problem!
  9. +2
    29 May 2015 07: 13
    They will allocate money!) They will cut it!) And everything will be fine! this metal will be sawn and written off for losses!) well done!
  10. 0
    29 May 2015 07: 22
    Yes, with eighty dill will be tight.
  11. +1
    29 May 2015 07: 26
    Dear, the project for Ukraine is long-term, it means that it is practically impossible to implement and it pleases, the money will be "used", there is no result, it is not for nothing that Poroshenko officially increased his capital by 7 times during his presidency
  12. +2
    29 May 2015 07: 34
    To restore even the available tanks, money is needed, and not small ... The question is, where is it coming from? Moreover, Russia is putting more pressure on the debt, talking about paying off the debt. And Europe is more and more persistently wanting to move away from Ukraine’s problems, turning its nose and turning away, hearing from Kiev-Give money. The junta desperately needs money to continue the war, because without a civil war in Ukraine they can’t sit in their offices.
  13. +8
    29 May 2015 08: 15
    Spare engines can be in storage, as well as rem kits, if they have not been stolen so for the T 34 tanks, there is still a supply of engines in Belarus and not only here. Recently I bought a royal butt on a Mosin rifle from a Far Eastern storage place, only now we decided to get rid of some things. So the main problem is that with them over the past 25 years it has become, and in general can be restored, because even the electrical wiring from temperature and moisture has become unusable, not to mention every little thing. It just needs to be disassembled completely and assembled for new with verification of every detail. This is completely different money, it may turn out so that it is cheaper to make a new tank than to repair it like that. Moreover, the tanks are not new and how much there is a resource of everything that is there, worked out because no one knows this. And the most important question is where to get the crews for this equipment not only in Ukraine, but also in Novorossia, why they complicate the life of the military, because this is not a hot commodity))) the third grade is not a marriage.
    1. +2
      29 May 2015 12: 04
      Quote: Sasha75
      Spare engines can be in storage

      And spare parts for them can be "joked" at the Kharkov tank repair facility ...
  14. 0
    29 May 2015 09: 43
    Before recovering, it would be nice to shoot someone. Forgive me, I’m sorry, there’s nowhere to even melt.
  15. Vezhchel
    0
    29 May 2015 09: 45
    The militias will come in handy.
  16. +2
    29 May 2015 10: 42
    the military intends to begin operation of two more models of tanks that are not related to families already in operation

    What are these? T-54/55? Or will WWII monument tanks be removed from pedestals?
  17. +1
    29 May 2015 10: 45
    Before restoring, you need to calculate what is generally standing there! Maybe just a separate tank corps! (i.e. just a case and .... everything !?). And then look at the newspaper and in the urgent repair section of the announcement, look for specialists, who knows how to repair it all ...
  18. 0
    29 May 2015 11: 03
    How realistic is it to exchange a turbine for diesel? Honestly, I don’t remember doing this. request
    Maybe they found a place where you can buy new ones or restore old ones? In Eastern Europe or Belarus there are no such stocks? Who else has the t-80?
    1. 0
      29 May 2015 12: 06
      Wiki to the rescue
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2-80#.D0.9D.D0.B0_.D0.B2.D0.BE.D0.BE.D1.80.D1
      .83.D0.B6.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B8
      By the way, I looked through the list, everything seems to be clear, the former USSR, Africa, the Middle East, Ukraine sold mattresses, only 80 T-80s came from. Koreans ???
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      2. gjv
        +3
        29 May 2015 13: 11
        Quote: LeeDer
        only where the T-80 80 pcs. Koreans ???

        Koreans have 33 pieces of T-80U and two T-80UK. Delivered from Russia in 1996, 1997 and in 2005 (T-80UK) to pay off the external debt of the USSR.
    2. 0
      29 May 2015 12: 07
      Quote: Termit1309
      How realistic is it to exchange a turbine for diesel?

      In principle, it is possible. By FULLY replacing the MTO, according to the type, as they do when modernizing the T72, when they change the B46 to 5TDF. Only it is VERY expensive, I can’t even imagine how much they can do such alterations
      1. 0
        29 May 2015 15: 55
        The meaning of replacing a diesel with 80 if it is easier to simply restore the usual 72 which may not have dvigla and they are also in storage. Moreover, the meaning of 80 is precisely in its quiet engine and greater dynamics due to its gas turbine engine
        1. Ostwald
          -1
          29 May 2015 16: 28
          So they and the T-72 are not rich in warehouses, they have recently stated that they have 300 of them left.
          At the expense of the replacement, I strongly doubt that the fasteners of the diesel engine on the T-80 are easy to do after the gas turbine engine, but if they declare it is most likely possible.
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    4. gjv
      +1
      29 May 2015 13: 20
      Quote: Termit1309
      How realistic is it to exchange a turbine for diesel? Honestly, I don’t remember doing this.

      66 T-80BV tanks were being prepared for export at the 140th tank repair plant, and the restoration of gas turbine engines was carried out in Kharkov.

      From the article January 21, 2015 Belarusian T-80BV suffered first losses in Yemen http://topwar.ru/67231-belorusskie-t-80bv-ponesli-pervye-poteri-v-yemene.html
      There is nothing impossible in repairing a gas turbine engine as well as in replacing a diesel engine. In this case, unfortunately.
    5. Ostwald
      0
      29 May 2015 16: 21
      Quote: Termit1309
      How realistic is it to exchange a turbine for diesel?

      When Belarusians wanted to sell their T-80s, they preferred to sell their tanks converted to diesel. Most likely this is possible and I don’t know how they solved and investigated there, but they didn’t seem to start doing it.
  19. +1
    29 May 2015 12: 24
    Quote: LeeDer
    By the way, I looked through the list, everything seems to be clear, the former USSR, Africa, the Middle East, Ukraine sold mattresses, only 80 T-80s came from. Koreans ???



    Then managed to persuade South Korea to accept T-80U tanks on account of Soviet debt. According to official figures, in 1996 Russia announced the export of 33 tanks, and the Republic of Korea confirmed the import of 6 vehicles in 1996 and at the beginning of January 1997 - another 27. Debt in the amount of $ 210 million was written off for these deliveries. According to other sources, by 2007 South Korea had 80 such tanks.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/33674-yeksport-otechestvennyx-tankov-est
    -li-perspektivy.html
    1. +1
      29 May 2015 13: 15
      The Koreans are building their tank so that so far they have acquired for training and experience
  20. 0
    29 May 2015 13: 17
    Considering dozens of types of new LBT, dozens of old ones - their logistics and repairmen will go crazy with repair and search for parts.
  21. +1
    29 May 2015 13: 57
    If it was possible to restore the GTE with the native one (which is unlikely), then it would be nice for the APU in a summer company, in the Donetsk steppes the T-80 could prove itself in all its glory, speed and maneuverability would help them during tank breakthroughs with competent construction, but thank God these are just floodlights.
  22. +1
    29 May 2015 14: 33
    I feel this conflict will be the champion in the number of machines involved. T-64 and T72 of various modifications, T80ud, strongholds, bulat now and a gas turbine engine of 80. still do not forget about the flickering 62 and 55. As well as photos of is-3 and t34-85 from the militia.
    1. 0
      29 May 2015 14: 51
      Quote: Izya Katsman
      I feel this conflict will be the champion in the number of machines involved. T-64 and T72 of various modifications, T80ud, strongholds, bulat now and a gas turbine engine of 80. still do not forget about the flickering 62 and 55. As well as photos of is-3 and t34-85 from the militia.

      The Baron has already written about this.
      Thus, the country returned to the vicious experience of the three main battle tanks, as it was during the USSR - T-64, T-72 and T-80. But, in fact, there are not three tanks, so the Ethiopian T-72UA1 with the 5TDFMA engine and a number of other types of products entered the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      The most interesting thing is that the T-80B (BV) themselves of different years of production are not particularly compatible with each other, this was reported in the article in the WBTT About the T-80 Unification.
      In general, a record number of different tanks and their modifications will take part in the conflict on the territory of Ukraine. Only the T-55 and T-62 are not enough, but, apparently, the speed will reach them too.
  23. glorious glorious
    +1
    29 May 2015 14: 59
    Better towers with T-80b / BV with automated control system threw on T-64A.
    1. 0
      29 May 2015 15: 57
      you know, I’m not special in this and didn’t serve in tank tanks, but I think that you can’t just take and drag a tower from one tank to another of different models and tank schools
      1. Ostwald
        +1
        29 May 2015 16: 34
        No, you can, look for a video on how in Ukraine easily and unconstrainedly threw towers from the T-55 to the T-72 for someone in Africa to use a loader instead of an automatic loader.
  24. +2
    29 May 2015 15: 46
    The more a variety of equipment will be adopted in Ukraine, the better. More problems with repair, fuels and lubricants, supply of spare parts, crew training, etc. The more the military budget will grow in a country approaching economic collapse. The quicker the denouement with the current dodgers.
  25. +1
    29 May 2015 17: 54
    It’s just that the stuffing from the T-84 will enter into the old buildings.
  26. 0
    29 May 2015 18: 01
    They will not bother much that they will start something. And there, how much they will stretch, like, disposable tanks with disposable crews ...
  27. +3
    29 May 2015 19: 35
    In Pakistan, these tanks are armed with a whole tank division, 320 units.In hot and dusty climates, it exceeded our T90C by 2,5 times in quality of air purifier performance, covered 1000 km without replacing air purifier cartridges and was put into service. The Ukrainians can now re-export only Asians without a good profit will not sell back laughing
  28. 0
    30 May 2015 08: 40
    Quote: Pissarro
    In Pakistan, these tanks are armed with a whole tank division, 320 units.In hot and dusty climates, it exceeded our T90C by 2,5 times in quality of air purifier performance, covered 1000 km without replacing air purifier cartridges and was put into service. The Ukrainians can now re-export only Asians without a good profit will not sell back



    The problem of cleaning the air supplying the engine is not fully resolved for the T-84 tank. Kharkov machines equipped with two-stroke diesel engines traditionally use cassette-free inertial cyclone-type air cleaners designed to provide the lowest possible resistance in the intake tract. But the effectiveness of such air purifiers is quite small. Long-term operation of the T-64 and T-80UD tanks revealed a frequent failure of the tank engines due to dust wear of the cylinder-piston parts. To eliminate this drawback, a preliminary air purification system and dust wear sensors were installed on the tanks, but this did not give a big effect.
    http://topwar.ru/27235-t-84-protiv-t-90s-protivostoyanie-v-azii.html
    1. +3
      30 May 2015 12: 59
      The air purification system of the T-80UD tank consists of two main components: centrifugal pre-filters and air cleaner cartridges. The system allows the T-80UD tank to be operated in hot and dusty conditions for 1000 kilometers without the need to change filters, as well as in conditions of radioactive contamination. the average dust content of 2,5 g / kg the T-80UD tank can overcome in the desert 1000 km before the next cartridge service, which is equal to 20 hours of engine operation. A critical aerodynamic drag value of 1300 + 50 kgf / m2 is achieved in 35 hours of operation. For comparison, in the Russian T-90S tank, the inter-flushing period of the air cleaner cartridges for operation in the desert is only 400 km.
      With a decrease in air dust content from 2,5 g / kg to 2 g / kg, the inter-flush service life of the T-80UD tank’s air cleaner cartridges increases to 3000 km during operation in the desert. High performance of the T-80UD in the desert is achieved thanks to a unique air cleaning system. In the air purifier of the T-80UD tank, high-efficiency cyclones with low aerodynamic drag and a pass coefficient of no worse than 0,2 + 0,02% are used.
      The T-80UD air purifier has no analogues in the world tank building, as it can work in any aggressive soil and climate zones with and without cassettes. It was written, before Armata, it may already have analogues smile
  29. Shur
    -2
    1 June 2015 22: 23
    Highly mobile desert troops and marauding brigades. This is how they were bombed. Their owner is cruel, he apparently will not leave them for slave labor, and this threatens the creeping genocide of the Slavs in Ukraine. Many have their souls finished off. Further it will remain after erasing the memory and replacing all concepts just to put on the meat. Are these people? People, but what happened to them with these frostbitten Western puppeteers.
    1. Shur
      0
      1 June 2015 23: 02
      Other transcripts of the abbreviations of the Airborne Forces in the APU can not imagine.
  30. +1
    1 June 2015 23: 02
    Found in the internet on the topic of storage in Ukraine of old weapons. I quote in the original:
    Yuri Biryukov. Advisor to the President of Ukraine
    Comrades, Moscow political technologists and Olga curators!
    I beg you to change some of the pages (I do not know the serial number) in the manual "Zradanasslivayut, 2015." Namely - the instruction about the Artyomovsk storage bases of weapons. It so happened that today these bases were inspected by a bunch of people, the Minister of Defense was the leader, and I was hanging around in the background. Found out:
    1) Artyomovsk armored vehicles base: removed COMPLETELY. In total, 1900 units of armored vehicles were taken out, because finding it 40 km from the front line made everyone great. Both us and "them".
    2) Artyomovsk Central Weapons Depot: all modern small arms were exported at 95%, now the last shipments are being exported. The remains at the base are Thompson's assault rifles, Nagant and Mauser pistols, three-line Mosin rifles of the 1891 of the year (bleating, 15 000 pieces), captured German machine guns MG34 and MG42, and other museum exotics. PPSh, mmm ... Maxim machine guns, ooo ... They also take it out of it, while thinking about the future.

    Push. The USSR stocked up for the global war with everything conceivable and not conceivable. So that there is still a lot of things left.
  31. 0
    8 June 2015 13: 43
    Will the carts be restored in Ukraine? Eh lads then "light up" on them, as if they will win everyone and everything laughing
  32. Romanich
    0
    10 June 2015 18: 29
    Soon the militia will have new tanks wassat
  33. 0
    19 June 2015 16: 46
    a good car but current when it is serviceable and not when in the form of a pile of iron that poison the troops in Ukraine
  34. Alex_NW
    -1
    25 June 2015 18: 38
    Quote: Good
    The T-80 is a breakthrough tank, for the development of the success of a broad offensive, but it is not suitable for a positional war.
    T-80 main battle tank, suitable for everything
    1. 0
      25 June 2015 20: 21
      Quote: Alex_NW
      T-80 main battle tank, suitable for everything

      The T-80B and BV - with a gas turbine engine - were intended to be precisely a "breakthrough tank".

      We read the article (yes the title at least). We think. Only then - do we write something ..

      Something like this..