The project of the main battle tank Stridsvagn 2000 (Sweden)

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In the eighties of the last century, all the leading countries of the world were developing the so-called tanks limit parameters. By this time, the main battle tanks were already in service, their characteristics significantly differing from the technology of previous generations. It was believed that the existing MBT should be replaced by new armored vehicles with even higher combat qualities. Similar military views led to the emergence of several original designs. At the end of the seventies, Sweden, seeing global trends and taking into account the state of its armored forces, began to develop its own "tank of maximum parameters."



Project start

As in the case of other similar projects, the Swedish advanced tank was developed for two main reasons. Firstly, foreign countries constantly had new equipment with higher characteristics, and secondly, the state of their own equipment left much to be desired. A study conducted by the Swedish military at the end of the seventies showed that Strv 103 tanks and numerous modifications of the British Centurion (Strv 101, Strv 102, etc.), thanks to timely repairs, can serve for the next few years or even decades. However, in the nineties, we would have to start building new tanks to replace the existing fleet of vehicles.

In the late seventies and early eighties, Swedish scientists and tank builders created and tested several experimental tanks that could become the basis of a promising combat vehicle. Projects UDES 03, UDES 19, etc. allowed to collect a lot of necessary information, which to some extent facilitated the development of a new tank. However, the cars studied did not become prototypes of a promising tank. The project, dubbed Stridsvagn 2000 or Strv 2000 (“Tank 2000 of the Year”), was designed with experience, but not on the basis of ready-made solutions.

The development of the promising MBT Strv 2000 was entrusted to HB Utveckling AB, a joint venture of Bofors and Hägglunds & Söner. These organizations had serious experience in the creation of armored vehicles and various weapons. In addition, it was planned to involve some foreign organizations in the project, primarily suppliers of various equipment, weapons, etc.

The Strv 2000 project began with a study of data collected during testing of several experimental machines. It was necessary to study the possibilities of industry and to determine the required characteristics of a promising machine. In addition, it was planned to consider the possibility of buying a license for the production of a tank of foreign development. In case of unsuccessful completion of their own project, it was planned to arm the troops with licensed equipment.

By the mid-eighties, the project developers formed a list of basic requirements for a promising tank. MBT Strv 2000 in its characteristics should have surpassed all the available equipment in Sweden, as well as not inferior to foreign competitors. In addition, there were some interesting and unusual requirements. So, in the first version of the technical specification there was a clause on the mandatory use of the tower, which allows the gun to be rotated in any direction (probably, experience with Strv 103 tanks). Also required to ensure the survival of the crew in case of defeat ammunition.

Using existing experience, HB Utveckling AB employees offered three main options for a promising MBT. The first implied the use of a classic layout and a crew of four. The second version of the tank had a compact turret and a crew of three. The third version of the project proposed to develop an uninhabited tower and isolate the three tankers from the crew compartment. In the future, these ideas were developed, resulting in the emergence of several versions of the Strv 2000 project, differing from each other in layout, weaponry and other features.

A curious feature of the Strv 2000 project was the use of information on foreign developments. In determining the requirements for a promising tank, the capabilities of foreign MBTs of that time were taken into account. In this case, the main "competitor" of the new Stridsvagn 2000 was considered the Soviet tank T-80. For example, information about the use of combined armor on T-80 in combination with dynamic protection forced the Swedish designers to break their brains over the armament complex and ammunition for their tank.

The characteristics of the guns of the Soviet tanks and shells for them became the reason for making high demands on the protection of the new Swedish machine. In the eighties, in the arsenal of the Soviet army, new armor-piercing sabots appeared, representing a particular danger for armored vehicles. The new tank had to have a reservation that provided protection against existing and prospective foreign projectiles.

Shape formation

According to the calculations, the “tank of limiting parameters” Strv 2000 was quite heavy. His combat weight was to reach 55-60 tons. Thus, in order to provide the required mobility characteristics, it was necessary to use an engine of about 1000-1500 hp. The car had to be equipped with an automatic transmission, power plant control system and other equipment characteristic of modern tanks of the time.



Given the firepower of existing foreign tanks, the Swedish engineers decided to protect their new armored vehicle in several ways. So, it was planned to reduce the probability of detecting a tank by reducing its visibility in several ranges at once: in infrared, optical and radar. For this reason, the Strv 2000 had to carry special equipment to reduce the temperature of the exhaust gases and cool the engine. In addition, it was proposed to form the outer surface of the hull and tower in such a way that the radiation of the enemy's radar is reflected to the sides. Finally, it was planned to reduce the size of the combat vehicle, so that it was harder to see with the help of optical instruments.

Means of reducing visibility should complement the existing reservation. It was on the armor that the main responsibility was assigned to protect the tank from enemy weapons. Like other OBT developers, HB Utveckling AB had to find a way to create a relatively easy reservation with a high level of protection. Studies have shown that the best combination of weight and level of protection has a combined armor based on metal and ceramics. Such an armor design provided the required protection characteristics, but did not make the tank heavier.

In the second half of the eighties, several Swedish enterprises were recruited to study and create new combined armor. Various ceramic materials and body armor structures were investigated. Due to the complexity of such work was delayed for several years. At the same time, the option of purchasing a license for the production of Chobham armor with its subsequent modernization was considered. Such armor could also provide the required level of protection.

In the event of the defeat of the tank was planned to provide some means of additional protection of the crew. For example, in one of the variants of the proposed project it was planned to place the crew in a volume isolated from the ammunition. Another version of the project envisaged the use of armored shutters for laying ammunition and ejection panels of the roof on the model of some foreign tanks.

It was originally planned that the Strv 2000 tank would receive an 120-mm smoothbore gun Rh-120, similar to those used on foreign machines M1A1 Abrams and Leopard 2. Nevertheless, in the future, views on the armament of a promising tank were revised. "Tank limit parameters" should have had the appropriate firepower. For this reason, in the mid-eighties, it was decided to switch to a new caliber - 140 mm. According to some data, due to the lack of own developments in this area, the Swedish tank builders decided to resort to the help of German colleagues. At this time, Rheinmetall began work on the project NPNK-140 140-mm tank guns, designed to re-equip Leopard 2 MBT.

By the time the design work was completed and the prototype was assembled, the German 140-mm gun was an enlarged and slightly modified version of the Rh-120 gun. By increasing the caliber of the German gunsmiths managed to double the muzzle energy with the corresponding consequences for combat qualities. However, despite all the advantages, the NPzK-140 gun never went into series. Before the beginning of the two thousandth year, the specialists of Rheinmetall worked on reducing the recoil momentum and providing an acceptable resource, and also improved the tool by other means. Only at the beginning of the XXI century were made several experienced tools that were not without flaws.

As a result, the Bundeswehr refused to further support the project NPzK-140, and the company Rheinmetall was forced to curtail all work. As a result, the German armed forces did not receive a modernized version of the Leopard 2 tank. In addition, development problems should have affected the Swedish project, since even by the early nineties, Rheinmetall was not ready to share a new weapons with colleagues.

The 140 mm caliber gun provided complete superiority over any modern and promising tanks of foreign countries. However, he had several flaws. The main one is the large size of the gun itself and the projectiles for it. Because of this, it was not possible to place large ammunition within a relatively small combat compartment. In this case, the promising tank Strv 2000 was very limited in combat capabilities.

It was proposed to modify the tank armament complex taking into account the real capabilities of the proposed “main caliber”. For this reason, experts from HB Utveckling AB have proposed to supplement the 140-mm gun with an automatic gun caliber 40 mm and several machine guns. Thus, the 140-mm gun could be used to attack tanks and enemy fortifications, and less protected targets could be destroyed with the help of an automatic gun. For the defeat of manpower, in turn, machine guns were offered.

Variants of the project

By the end of the eighties, HB Utveckling AB offered the customer several options for a promising tank. As it turned out, the requirements could be met in several ways. The customer was presented several options for a promising tank under the general name Stridsvagn 2000. At the same time, all versions of the “limit parameters tank” had their own designations.

T140 or T140 / 40

The most interesting and realistic version of the tank. This version of the project involved the construction of a combat vehicle with a crew of three and a front engine. Due to this arrangement and the use of combined armor, it was possible to provide an acceptable level of protection for both the machine units and the crew. In addition, the ammunition was reliably protected from attacks from the front corners. The proposed layout, with all its advantages, had a significant disadvantage: the combat mass of the T140 / 40 tank reached 60 t.



The crew of three was to be located in the hull (driver) and turret (commander and gunner). Tower T140 / 40 should have had an unusual design. In the center, inside a relatively large swinging casing, was placed the main 140-mm gun. To her left a similar 40-mm gun should have been in a similar installation of a smaller size. The stern of the turret was used to place 40 shells for the main gun. At the left side there were boxes for the 40-mm cannon ammunition, at the right - the workplaces of two tankers.



L140

Tank L140 was a simplified version of the T140 / 40 with one gun and a different chassis. As the basis for such a tank was proposed seriously reworked chassis combat vehicle Stridsfordon 90 (Strf 90 or CV90). This chassis retained its front-engine layout, and part of the ammunition assembly was located inside the aft troop compartment.



Due to the absence of an additional 40-mm gun, they managed to place the commander and gunner to the right and left of the main 140-mm gun. The main stacking of the ammunition with automatic loading units was located in the rear of the tower. Additional packing was placed inside the former troop compartment, in the stern of the hull.

The chassis of the BMP Strf 90 had certain limitations on the combat weight of the finished tank. For this reason, booking the hull of the tank L140 was almost no different from the protection of the basic infantry fighting vehicle. Thus, the proposed OBT L140 did not meet the requirements and could hardly be approved by the customer. The downside of defense problems was a small combat mass - no more than 35 tons.



O140 / 40

This version of the tank was also proposed to be built on the basis of the modified BMP Strf 90 chassis, however, due to some technical solutions, it met the requirements of the customer. To ensure the required level of protection, it was planned to equip the front engine housing with additional mounted booking modules. Such details fit into the weight restrictions, but gave a significant increase in the level of protection.




Instead of the classic O140 / 40 turret, I had to get a fighting carriage assembly module with two 140 and 40 caliber guns. The commander and the gunner were located inside the corps, in the lower rotating part of the combat module. The roof provided viewing instruments and sighting equipment. On the roof of the combat module, it was proposed to mount a common rocking installation for two guns. The main ammunition ammunition and automatic loader at the same time was in the aft hull. During loading, the projectiles were to be fed from the body inside the gun shell.

Due to the use of the engine power 1500 hp and a modified undercarriage could provide the required mobility of the O140 / 40 tank with the combat weight at the level of 52 t. Weight savings in comparison with the T140 / 40 was achieved through the use of the combat module of the original design.




Project Finale

In the late eighties, the Swedish military considered all the proposed options for the Strv 2000 tank and made their choice. From the combination of characteristics, the T140 / 40 project became the best option for arming armored units. Due to its own original chassis and non-standard tower design, this machine fully complies with the requirements. In addition, the 140-mm gun provided a noticeable advantage over all existing foreign armored vehicles, and the 40-mm automatic cannon optimized ammunition consumption.

Other proposed projects had certain disadvantages. For example, the L140 tank had insufficient protection and was not equipped with an auxiliary gun, which seriously limited its combat capabilities. In fact, the L140 was an anti-tank self-propelled artillery mount, rather than a full-fledged main battle tank. The O140 / 40 project did not suit the customer due to its complexity. The original combat module with an automated swing artillery unit was considered too complicated and expensive to manufacture.



Around 1990, the military ordered the construction of a model that could show the main features of a promising tank. HB Utveckling AB Company soon presented a model assembled from wood and metal. Outwardly, this product resembled a Strv 2000 tank in the T140 / 40 version. The model did not have a power plant or operating chassis. Nevertheless, it envisaged the drives of the “weapon” pickup.

Already in the late eighties, it became clear that the project Strv 2000 was faced with several specific problems that hinder its full implementation. One of the main things was the lack of the necessary 140-mm guns. Rheinmetall continued to develop such weapons and was not ready to submit a finished sample suitable for mass production. Thus, the Swedish OBT Strv 2000 was left without its main armament, and the use of Rh-120 guns of 120 mm caliber was associated with the loss of combat qualities.

The lack of guns and other problems have called into question the fate of the entire project Stridsvagn 2000. Long before the start of construction of the layout of the Swedish Ministry of Defense began to show increasing interest in a different way of updating the material part of the armored forces. The state of the existing equipment and the progress of the Strv 2000 project forced the military to step up work to verify the prospects for the purchase of imported equipment.

In the 1989-90, the American tank M1A1 Abrams and the German Leopard 2A4 were tested at Swedish test sites. This technique has shown good performance. It should be noted that the calculated characteristics of the new Strv 2000 in the T140 / 40 version were noticeably higher, but the American and German cars had a serious advantage over the Swedish competitor. They already existed in the metal and even built a series.



By 1991, the Swedish military was disappointed in the Strv 2000 project and, being limited in time and money, they decided to upgrade the fleet of armored vehicles with foreign cars. Germany has acquired a license for the production of MBT Leopard 2A4. In the armed forces of Sweden, this technique received a new designation Stridsvagn 122.

All work on the project Strv 2000 were curtailed as unnecessary. The only mock tank T140 / 40 disassembled and no longer demonstrated. Over time, Strv 122 type vehicles became the main type of main battle tank in the Swedish army. Other tanks during the nineties and the two thousandth years were written off and cut into metal. The Strv 2000 project is currently the latest Swedish development in the field of tank building. Attempts to create a new private tanks are not being made.












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  1. +14
    22 May 2015 05: 49
    looks more like a sau. than to the tank :) this would be a hammer :)
    1. +9
      22 May 2015 08: 30
      A serious machine would come out if, yes if only) The layout is wonderful !!!!
      1. +1
        23 May 2015 08: 24
        More like a self-propelled gun ...
        1. 0
          23 May 2015 15: 35
          By design, a beautiful car ...
  2. Boos
    -20
    22 May 2015 08: 31
    Swedish imbecile ...
  3. +12
    22 May 2015 08: 45
    The 103-th they had an interesting tank, also, in fact, self-propelled, assuming the lack of a tower. But the solutions in it were applied very interesting, especially in the suspension.
    1. wk
      +5
      22 May 2015 12: 55
      this is about him in the late 70s and early 80s in the "tank museum" section in the "Technology of Youth" magazine there was an article .... very memorable ... and this tank and the entire selection.
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  4. +7
    22 May 2015 08: 48
    Interesting and useful article.
    1. +1
      23 May 2015 17: 06
      And without amusing pseudo-politics. + For me, personally, it is very interesting.
  5. +15
    22 May 2015 08: 53
    But the Swedes have a cool Ptshka
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    2. gjv
      +12
      22 May 2015 11: 48
      Quote: Malkor
      But the Swedes have a cool Ptshka

      They and the Strf90 are something very similar to a tank. And seven-shot!
      1. +8
        22 May 2015 18: 38
        The Swedes on the base chassis of their CV90 infantry fighting vehicle have developed several versions of armored combat vehicles with heavy weapons: with a 105-mm rifled gun and a 120-mm smoothbore low-pulse gun.
        This machine is called a light tank, and a tank destroyer, and even the main battle tank.
        "BAE Systems Hagglunds continue to upgrade their CV90 infantry fighting vehicles with a 120mm cannon (CV90120-T). The improved version of the tank will be equipped with additional reactive armor, improved side fairings to reduce the vehicle's IR signature and a new camouflage paint scheme aimed at urban environments.
        The main reason for installing the 120 mm gun on the CV90 was the desire to combine the firepower of the tank and the moving characteristics of a lighter vehicle. The combat weight of the CV90120-T is about 35 tons, while the tank weighs almost twice as much.
        A 90120 mm Compact Tank Gun CTG120 / L120, manufactured by Swiss Ruag, is installed on the CV50-T turret. In the mid-1990s, a Giat TML turret with a 90 mm gun was installed on the CV105 chassis, but, unlike the new gun, it was not fully stabilized.
        Fire control system CV90120-T - Universal tank fire control system, providing the ability to fire at air targets (UTAAS), manufactured by SAAB. The same system was used in the CV90. A Hagglunds spokesman said that with UTAAS, the CV90 series "have higher firing accuracy than Leopard 2 tanks."
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    4. gjv
      +8
      22 May 2015 11: 57
      Quote: Malkor
      But the Swedes have a cool Ptshka

      And here's another joke. They were armed (or still stand?) Pansarbandvagn 501.

      Sound familiar? Do not know - impossible!
      1. +5
        22 May 2015 14: 26
        Sweden - 350 Pbv 501 (purchased in Germany, from the former GDR, modernized in the Czech Republic)
    5. +10
      22 May 2015 18: 23
      This is not Ptshka, but the Stridsvagn 103 (Strv.103) tank mentioned in the article, aka S-tank - the “Swedish tank” - the Swedish main battle tank of the 1960s. It should be noted that a number of experts are classified not as a tank, but as a tank destroyer. It has a unique turretless configuration with a gun rigidly fixed in the hull, which is guided by turning the tank and tilting its hull using a special suspension. It has a number of other unique features, for example, a power plant of two different types of engines, diesel (main) and gas turbine (for severe operating conditions).
      Strv.103 was created in 1956-1961 to replace the Centurion British medium tanks in the Swedish army (Swedish designation Strv.102). Serial production of the tank was carried out from 1966 to 1971, a total of 335 tanks of this type were produced. The Strv.103 tanks formed the basis of the tank fleet of Sweden until the 1990s, when they were replaced by modern main battle tanks “Leopard-2” of German production and withdrawn from service.
      I have the honor.
      1. +5
        22 May 2015 19: 45
        In all respects, this is Ptshka. How does she aim a gun in cross-country traffic? changes tilt angles too? With all the bells and whistles - this is a modern Fri sau, and not like not a tank.
    6. 0
      22 May 2015 20: 47
      Quote: Malkor
      But the Swedes have a cool Ptshka

      The most interesting thing is that aiming is due to raising the front rollers and changing the clearance and rotation of the tank, the system is just ........
      1. 0
        26 May 2015 02: 12
        Quote: APASUS
        the system is just ........

        beyond good and evil)
  6. +4
    22 May 2015 09: 57
    Well, the Swedes have not fought for a long time, why not experiment in technology, a developed country
  7. +2
    22 May 2015 10: 00
    A 140 mm gun looks like at least 203 mm)
  8. -1
    22 May 2015 10: 08
    It looks like something like "Armata"
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    2. gjv
      0
      22 May 2015 11: 40
      Quote: Zigmars
      It looks like something like "Armata"

      The one in the middle in the photo?
    3. +1
      22 May 2015 11: 52
      Maybe, on the contrary, "Armata" looks like him? wink
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      2. gjv
        +5
        22 May 2015 12: 08
        No, the Swedes have a time machine and they are all looking at us. Affects the Poltava experience!
        Do not believe me ?! And look at their Pansarbandvagn 501.


        1. wk
          +3
          22 May 2015 13: 46
          Quote: gjv
          they are all looking at us

          it’s we who looked at this suspension from Ferdinand’s to be more precise.
          1. gjv
            +4
            22 May 2015 15: 10
            Accuracy - the politeness of kings. hi
            So the Swedish king is closer to King Ferdinand. And they bought ours, though from the Czechs and with upgrades to the gun and devices. However, I don’t know who we are looked:


            On which now Jimmy Johansson rides.
            1. wk
              +1
              22 May 2015 15: 31
              a similar suspension was on one of the Tiger's variants, but another one known to everyone went into the series .... but on German self-propelled guns, the Ferdinandovskaya took root and then migrated to many Soviet models (not without changes of course)
              1. 0
                26 May 2015 02: 22
                Quote: wk
                a similar suspension was on one of the Tiger's variants, but another one known to everyone went into the series .... but on German self-propelled guns, the Ferdinandovskaya took root and then migrated to many Soviet models (not without changes of course)

                I do not quite agree with the term "migrated to many Soviet samples"
                What exactly migrated? Torsion bar suspension? Already used on HF and IS. At T34, the same project was with a torsion bar suspension (T34M), in view of the technological difficulties, mainly related to rolled armor, it did not go into series. What else can I copy from Ferdinand? The size of the rollers ?, but this is just a logical attempt to strengthen the side armor ... Front-wheel drive?
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            3. +3
              22 May 2015 16: 03
              this is MT-LB, information about it will be found freely on the Internet
              1. gjv
                +3
                22 May 2015 17: 14
                Quote: shadow-b
                this is MT-LB, information about it will be found freely on the Internet

                Thank you, otherwise I "did not know" that it was MT-LB and "naively" thought it was a "Swedish" armored personnel carrier Pbv 401A (bought in Bulgaria! ). But now I know that his suspension is "tiger".
                You sincere +... Found out right away in the "Swedish" armored personnel carrier our moto league.
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  9. +3
    22 May 2015 12: 02
    The project is interesting. Sorry did not get to the conveyor. It would be a worthy alternative to its competitors.
    1. 0
      22 May 2015 14: 16
      Quote: KADEX
      The project is interesting. Sorry did not get to the conveyor. It would be a worthy alternative to its competitors.

      Which side are you on !? belay wink
      1. +6
        22 May 2015 16: 42
        Quote: maai
        Which side are you on !?

        Well, childhood began - "are you for the Germans or for ours?" ... ..
        1. +2
          23 May 2015 20: 31
          Quote: Bayonet
          Well, childhood began - "are you for the Germans or for ours?" ... ..

          You obviously have not heard about the irony. smile
    2. Victor the Great
      +4
      22 May 2015 16: 44
      Interesting and promising, but did not go into the series in view of the lack of an adequate enemy (the union broke up, if that).
      And against the Papuans in Afghanistan or Iraq 140 mm high-energy elda is not needed .... as well as stealth technology.
  10. +4
    22 May 2015 13: 24
    But somehow I do not mind that I did not get to the conveyor. Moreover, I am glad that the project remained a project
  11. wanderer_032
    +8
    22 May 2015 15: 30
    This photograph of a "model" of a Swedish car looks quite curious. Which leads to the idea that perhaps one prototype was at least brought "to mind" and made in metal.


    One cannon and BC to it for working out engineering calculations and preliminary tests could also be made in an efficient form. Just when the USSR collapsed, the need for the production of such expensive military vehicles disappeared by itself. And the project was frozen. Technical and production documentation could be preserved.

    The article is interesting, no doubt. Which once again confirms that engineers from all countries where machine building is developed worked on projects with an uninhabited tower machine.
    1. +2
      22 May 2015 17: 00
      Quote: wanderer_032
      This photograph of a "model" of a Swedish car looks quite curious. Which leads to the idea that perhaps one prototype was at least brought "to mind" and made in metal.


      One cannon and BC to it for working out engineering calculations and preliminary tests could also be made in an efficient form. Just when the USSR collapsed, the need for the production of such expensive military vehicles disappeared by itself. And the project was frozen. Technical and production documentation could be preserved.

      The article is interesting, no doubt. Which once again confirms that engineers from all countries where machine building is developed worked on projects with an uninhabited tower machine.

      They work and work, but we already started a small series, and this is not the first project in hardware.
      1. Zionist22
        -3
        22 May 2015 21: 31
        the Swedes went the right way and by the way merkava 5 will also be completely without a tower and its caliber is not 120 millimeters as in armata 120 a 5 generation tank cannot
        1. +4
          22 May 2015 21: 37
          Zionist 22 CA
          Hey, Zionist, what are you jumping from branch to branch and everywhere like a banderlog throwing rotten bananas at Russia?
          Your Merkava, you’ll try against our tanks, I don’t want to get it at all, the Swedes do not want to try, after Poltava 200 years already ..
    2. +1
      23 May 2015 03: 11
      Unfortunately, only a wooden mock-up was brought to mind, they couldn’t make a gun completely in iron and put all the Wishlist into sane sizes.
      And so it would be interesting to see this t.z. in a living incarnation.
  12. 0
    22 May 2015 16: 47
    An interesting and progressive car. Particularly impressed with the uninhabited tower option.
    The gun inspires respect ...
  13. Zionist22
    -2
    22 May 2015 20: 24
    Quote: ruslan
    looks more like a sau. than to the tank :) this would be a hammer :)

    this tank is really all tanks tank against him armata like a fly against an elephant
  14. Zionist22
    -4
    22 May 2015 20: 39
    Quote: Dimka off
    A 140 mm gun looks like at least 203 mm)

    Moldavians Swedes a small country and what an advanced industry our allies are proud of them
    1. +7
      22 May 2015 21: 56
      Quote: Zionist22

      Moldavians Swedes a small country and what an advanced industry our allies are proud of them

      Russia does not care what allies you have. We visited a lot of them, your allies, together with you, with your highly developed industries, one of them was useful, even though we fertilized our land with ourselves. laughing
  15. Zionist22
    -4
    22 May 2015 21: 29
    Quote: Zigmars
    It looks like something like "Armata"

    no more than I am to the pope what is common in general yes she will flash through a hundred armada through one shot
  16. Zionist22
    -4
    22 May 2015 21: 32
    Quote: Boos
    Swedish imbecile ...

    1. +1
      22 May 2015 21: 51
      Is she unmanned? I do not see the placement of the crew.
      Caliber guns?
  17. Zionist22
    -4
    22 May 2015 21: 53
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Zionist 22 CA
    Hey, Zionist, what are you jumping from branch to branch and everywhere like a banderlog throwing rotten bananas at Russia?
    Your Merkava, you’ll try against our tanks, I don’t want to get it at all, the Swedes do not want to try, after Poltava 200 years already ..

    well, 200 years ago they got and now the 21st century the Swedes 5 million generally compared the elephant with the pug tolko only Swedish trucks Volvo knows and appreciates the whole world, but where did you see Kamaz trucks?
    1. +1
      23 May 2015 01: 47
      WHERE ARE YOU SEEING SWEDISH TANKS?
      1. Zionist22
        -2
        23 May 2015 03: 11
        Volvo than you do not tank Swedish powerful strong creative pasionary
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  18. +1
    23 May 2015 09: 36
    pleased with the article! thanks from the tanker!
  19. +1
    23 May 2015 10: 34
    The article is funny and instructive ..... Especially in terms of the fact that the creation of the T-14 does not exempt from plans for its modernization! -)
  20. Zionist23
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    23 May 2015 21: 05
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    More like a self-propelled gun ...

    the tank is called the grave graveyard