In the next five years, the armed forces of Russia will remain without training L-39

According to some publications, the L-39 training aircraft, which are the basis of the training park today, will fail in the next five years.

As a source in the military department told the media, the Czechoslovak aircraft was not included in the modernization program and is now being withdrawn from the training parks due to the lack of spare parts and its physical aging. At the moment, two-thirds of the aircraft are no longer able to fly.

“Since the Yak-130 appeared, they did not accept the program for upgrading the L-39. The only contract for the Yak-130 is still stuck at a dead center due to the clarification of the relationship between the Ministry of Defense and the UAC (United Aircraft Building Corporation) about the cost of the car and therefore the delivery time of the aircraft is shifted. But, at this time, there is a constant write-off of L-39 due to the active consumption of machine resources on flights and the lack of substitutions, ”says a media source.

The problem L-39 is associated with the origin of the aircraft. The Czechoslovak aircraft that had the Ukrainian engine was created in 1960 and was considered the main training aircraft for the Air Forces of those countries that were part of the Warsaw Pact (Warsaw Pact Organization). But after the collapse of the ATS, and later the USSR, the supply of spare parts for the aircraft was almost completely stopped.

For quite a long time, the Russian Air Force maintained the state of the L-39 fleet thanks to the dismantling of the aircraft that were put out for storage. But, of course, this kind of source of spare parts is far from eternal, and at present it has almost dried up. The Russian Air Force has three hundred L-39 aircraft, but only one third of them will be able to participate in the flights. And in the near future, some of them will be written off.

The need for the Air Force in training aircraft is 120 aircraft, today the military aviation Russia has only ten Yak-130 aircraft. In August, at the MAKS-2011 air show, the UAC and the Ministry of Defense were to sign a contract for the supply of 130 Yak-65 aircraft by 2015. But the contract was not signed due to disagreement of the parties with prices.

Ultimately, this situation can reach complete absurdity, and the Russian armed forces in the literal sense of the word will have nothing to train young pilots.

Comments

[Sergh]

Well, in a nutshell, it is clear that 39s will be repaired on their own for a long time, as usual, one of the two is assembled, etc., but with the question of MO this is certainly barbarism. Although I worked as a civilian with the military, I know what they are braking on the rise, for some reason they are afraid of everything, the initiative for them is death! But if you get something or bring it to yourself, then he quits work, breaks off from the floor with a kick and already tomorrow boasts that he got it, brought it, delivered it .. I certainly do not apply to all the servants (please forgive), but there are such cases I can tell you a lot.
So this brake song and they can pull the rubber, complain, argue.

[Vadivak]

Yak-30, even by today's standards, is one of the best trainers. Behind him there are eight world records alone. Among other things, just a beautiful plane. In the OKB it is considered one of the most successful and "correct" aircraft of the company

But the Soviet government made a big gesture and the L-29 "won" in the competition for the TCB, in fact, the Yak-30 won the very "competition". its weight is almost a ton less than that of the L-29
The Yak-30 was tested at all types of unpaved airfields, including a sagging field (the test was carried out in Lyubertsy). At the time of the competition, the Yak-30 was fully tested (factory tests were completed and state tests were almost completed, the aircraft was already recommended for the series), and the L-29 was still just a prototype, which then changed a lot.
the President of Czechoslovakia Antonin Novotny flew to Moscow on a visit. Another week passed and our rivals - the Czechs - cheered up: they smiled mysteriously and made it clear that the decision was made. Later we learned that it was at this meeting that it was decided to specialize the aviation industry of Czechoslovakia in the creation and serial production of TCB for the Warsaw Pact countries. Therefore, NS Khrushchev made a "political decision": to build a Czechoslovakian plane.


This is how we were left without a cool domestic TCB, all the "brothers" helped ...

[443190]

And the minister then the RF Ministry of Defense is just a civilian ... An effective manager !!!

[Roman Skomorokhov]

"According to some publications, the L-39 trainer aircraft, which are the basis of the training fleet today, will be out of service in the next five years."

"As a source in the military department told the media, the Czechoslovak plane was not included in the modernization program and is now being withdrawn from the training parks due to the lack of spare parts and its physical aging. At the moment, two-thirds of the aircraft are no longer able to fly."

Another funeral song ... To be honest, we got these "some editions" and anonymous "sources".
another yellow blevantin, sorry for the comparison.

I, of course, am a fool, far from aviation, but the combination of "Czechoslovak plane" (where is the country like this now?) And "Ukrainian engine" is just a waste.

Yes, with the YAK-130 they are slowing down, but I am sure that they will be shifted from the dead center and will start. And in five years, all the more.

Yes, in our country not everything is as we would like, but these funeral marches have already bothered. I just want to say, "Are you tired of burying?"

[Smirnov Vadim]

If the supply of these aircraft were still in the times of the USSR and Czechoslovakia and the production were Czechoslovakia. How to call them - Czech?

[svvaulsh]

Quote: Banshee

I, of course, am a fool, far from aviation, but the combination of "Czechoslovak plane" (where is the country like this now?) And "Ukrainian engine" is just a waste.

If so, then do not be silly! Great car! Very reliable, comfortable, forgiving a lot of mistakes. In our school, these were in the shelves. So for 4 years they lost only one car and that is due to a goose entering the air intake in the aerobatic zone. The cadet and instructor successfully ejected.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

And I did not think stupid. Read everything in the complex, and not line by line.

Or do you personally domestic Yak-130 not satisfied? You can find out what?

Or, as is customary now in the Ministry of Defense, it is urgent to rush and sign a contract with the Czechs for the supply of THEIR planes? Or is it to set up their release?

Until the end it is necessary to read.

[svvaulsh]

I am a supporter of purchasing my equipment. But during his studies, and it was in the USSR, the flying desks were exactly "albatrosses" and "dolphins" (L-29). There was not even talk about the Yak-130. As you remember, in the former social. the camp was a division of labor. The Poles, for example, made Mi-2 helicopters, landing ships, Czechoslovakia - UTS, Hungarians - intercity buses, etc. Now the situation is different. The Czechs moved from the category of an ally to the category of potential adversaries, the cooperation collapsed not only in Eastern Europe, but also in the territory of the former USSR. That is why I am in favor of the self-sufficiency of the domestic economy, in no way denying the achievements and technology that were under that political system.

[Superduck]

All military transport aviation and half of the helicopters of the Russian Federation fly on Ukrainian engines, and almost all front-line aviation pilots studied on albatrosses. So stick your primitive chauvinism to hell and do not disgrace Russia with your statements. Albatross is an excellent aircraft and has a chic upgrade resource.

[lokdok]

So what? can now buy american ubs? DO NOT worry agree on prices, this is a common dispute between business entities.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

I will not shove anything anywhere, because chauvinism is not a penny here. This is called realism, if that.

The fact that everything flies on Ukrainian engines is not a plus, but a minus, especially considering how Ukraine climbs into NATO.

Whatever the awesome L-39, whatever good Ukrainian engines are, in my post I meant only one thing: I HAVE TO BE OWN.
Modern and without regard to import.

And where is the chauvinism? And where is the shame for Russia in advocating for the Yak-130?

[Splin]

] L-39, Yak-130 and L-15 have Ukrainian engines, moreover, the Chinese ordered a forced one. In Ukraine, there is no money to collect the Yak-130 or the Chinese L-15, so Albatrosses are sorted out at the Odessa aircraft plant. It turns out pretty nevertheless incomplete and cheap car. By the way, all Ukrainian aircraft of this type that were in the system have undergone modernization. And there are dozens of Dolphins. but their private owners are not allowed to buy.

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[Leisure]

Who will do this, resource renewal and modernization?

[Foamas]

The plane is really Czechoslovakian, but the company "Aero-Vodokhody" lives and does not die in the Czech Republic, which manufactures more modern UBS L-159B. By the way, this is the only office in the former ATS countries that has an official license for the repair and modernization of this type of UBS, as well as for the repair of Soviet / Russian aircraft.

[Mesniy]

Quote: FoMaS

By the way, this is the only office in the countries of the former ATS, which has an official license for the repair and modernization of this type of UBS

what nonsense, overhaul and refinement of the Elok we did in the late 80s in the Baltic states at the aircraft repair plant of military unit 36860 Panevezys.
By the way, they are very good and unpretentious and easy to repair cars, and the L-159 is generally super, can be used as a full-fledged light attack aircraft.

[datur]

Foamas-Our defective managers, the toad will strangle that the loot can go past their pocket.

[kesa1111]

Yak-130, MiG AT Is it worse?

[caiman crocodilus]

So what if l39 doesn’t remain?

There is a Yak-130
12 already in service
55 signed a contract and until 2015 will be delivered http://lenta.ru/news/2011/12/07/yak/
10 will be delivered after 2015.

[Viking]

Quote: Caiman crocodilus

So what if l39 doesn’t remain?

There is a Yak-130

I completely agree with that. There are Russian combat training aircraft.

[plotnikov561956]

Quote: Viking

I completely agree with that. There are Russian combat training aircraft.

Priority issues to decide on your own.! Yak-130 on the conveyor in Ulan-Ude