BMP "Kurganets-25". Waiting for the first show

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Professionals and the public are looking forward to 9 May. A few years ago, it was announced that this time in the Parade of Victory in Red Square will take part military equipment of several new types. A number of combat vehicles will be shown for the first time to the general public, which is the reason for the hype. A characteristic feature of the current expectations of the "premiere" of the new technology was the almost complete absence of any detailed information or images of promising combat vehicles. So, a few days ago, several photos of the newest self-propelled guns “Coalition-SV” got into free access, the towers of which, however, were covered with special covers. The appearance of other machines, which will be shown 9 May, remains secret.



So far, even the appearance of a promising tank and other armored vehicles based on the universal Armata platform, as well as the Kurganets-25 infantry fighting vehicle. Nevertheless, the public wants to know what the new equipment will be for the domestic armed forces and is trying to collect all available information. The other day, the military-patriotic website "Courage" published new images demonstrating the alleged appearance of a promising BMP. The three-dimensional model, the images of which were published, was made on the basis of currently available information about the new project. Thus, it can have serious differences from a real BMP, although the common features of the real and drawn cars seem to coincide.

Although the development of the project "Kurganets-25" was launched in 2010 year, the details of it have not been published until now. At the disposal of the interested public there are only scattered messages about certain features of the project, as well as just one image of an unfinished BMP of the new model. For this reason, so far it is necessary to be content with only fragmentary official information and various assessments. Nevertheless, even in the conditions of such a lack of information, you can build versions and even carry out computer models of new technology.

At the moment we know the following. The goal of the Kurganets-25 project, being developed by the Kurgan Machine-Building Plant, is to create a universal armored platform suitable for use as a base for various types of equipment. First of all it is planned to create and put into service a middle class infantry fighting vehicle. In the future, based on the platform will be developed for other purposes, including command and staff, repair and evacuation, sanitary and other machines. The name of the project reflects the approximate combat weight of these machines - about 25 t.

In January, 2013, some features of the technical appearance of promising technology became known. Then the photo from the Kurganmashzavod workshop, where one of the prototypes of the new BMP was assembled, was made public. This photo did not differ in high quality, but allowed to draw conclusions about the main features of the armored hull, including its layout. It should be noted that all currently existing versions of the appearance of a promising infantry fighting vehicle are based precisely on a single photograph from the workshop.

The body of the new car is assembled from several rectilinear armor plates mated at different angles. Like the existing BMP-3, the Kurganets-25 should receive a frontal part of the hull, formed by several parts: the upper one with a large inclination to the vertical and two oblique lower ones. According to some reports, the new combat vehicle will have an increased level of side protection. For this, spaced booking is used, as well as additional mounted modules. An approximate appearance of such a booking can be seen on the images of a three-dimensional model, published by the site "Courage". The use of a V-shaped hull bottom, which should provide protection against explosive devices, was previously mentioned.

A photograph from the plant’s workshop, which depicted an unfinished prototype of the Kurgants-25, allows conclusions to be drawn about the layout of the internal volumes of the hull. In this regard, the new equipment will probably be similar to the domestic infantry fighting vehicles of the first models or some foreign models. In front of the armored hull, with a shift to the starboard side, there will be an engine compartment. To his left there is a place to accommodate the driver. Behind the driver and the power plant there is a large amount of space for placing troops, weapons or special equipment.

The type and engine power of the new car remain unknown. Data on its approximate weight suggest that the engine will be used from 600 to 800 hp. With such a power plant, the machine can have acceptable mobility characteristics. So, the maximum speed on the highway is estimated at 70-80 km / h. The Kurganets-25 platform is based on a tracked chassis. The type of suspension is not yet known. A torsion or hydropneumatic independent suspension is likely to be used. It is believed that in the undercarriage will be seven road wheels on each side of the car. The drive wheels will be in the front of the hull, the guides in the stern.

Of great interest is the weapons of promising infantry fighting vehicles. Earlier it was repeatedly mentioned that this machine will receive a new combat module with remote control. The use of an uninhabited turret with weapons is expected to free up a certain amount inside the hull, which can be used to accommodate a landing force or additional ammunition. In addition, the removal of the main ammunition beyond the limits of habitable volumes should positively affect the survivability of the machine in combat conditions.

According to domestic media reports, the Kurganets-25 infantry combat vehicle will receive an Epoch combat module developed by the Tula Instrument Engineering Design Bureau. According to reports, this module is equipped with 30-mm 2А42 automatic cannon with 500 rounds of ammunition, a twin PKT machine gun with 2000 rounds of ammunition and a Kornet-EM missile system with attachments for four missile containers. It was reported on the development of shells for 30-mm guns with a programmable fuse, providing undermining the trajectory. In addition, there is information about the creation of a new set of sighting equipment, which will equip the module "Epoch".

In early March, it was reported that all work on the project "Kurganets-25" are going on in accordance with the schedule. To date, several experimental machines have been built, which in the near future should be put to the test. As follows from the available information, while we are talking only about the equipment in the configuration of the BMP. Other modifications are still only in the form of project documentation.

Already there are several instances of the promising BMP "Kurganets-25". The exact number of these machines has not yet been named, but it can be assumed that the first batch will consist of at least 10-12 machines. To participate in the parade on Red Square, an appropriate amount of equipment is required, from which it is possible to form a full-fledged formation.

Work on the project "Kurganets-25" continues, specialists and amateurs of military equipment continue to discuss the scant information available, and the military are preparing for the Victory Parade, during which the latest technology will be held in Moscow. The industry and the Ministry of Defense are not in a hurry to show their new developments to the country and, probably, all those interested will have to wait until May, when the first official demonstration of several new products will take place at once.


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  1. +7
    20 March 2015 05: 47
    I hope they will also quickly enter the troops
    1. +6
      20 March 2015 08: 14
      With the current political situation in the world, no options, right away.
      1. +9
        20 March 2015 09: 12
        I work in a large company. Often the question of when to complete a task is answered - yesterday !, despite the fact that the task appeared only today.
        Otherwise, there is no proper efficiency. That's right.
        1. +3
          20 March 2015 19: 01
          In large companies there is always fuss. Even super-efficient capitalist managers are clearly not able to plan anything. And as a result, overtime workers have to puff out.
          1. +4
            20 March 2015 22: 05
            poor wage earners can quit and organize a super efficient, planned re-planned office in which they starve to death without money. Because the plan is only decomposition and degradation, all positive is not unexpected and still resists. I’m telling you as a director!
            1. 0
              21 March 2015 17: 54
              What are you? But the Japanese do everything according to the plan and live normally))) For employees, so much money is not stolen to create such structures))) This refers to large enterprises. And about the sweatshop system of working conditions, in which all juices are squeezed out of hired workers as slaves, you can read from the classics of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
    2. 0
      21 March 2015 12: 33
      Demand Kurgan to show!
  2. +9
    20 March 2015 05: 48
    The May 9 parade is likely to bring together the maximum number of spectators this year, everyone is waiting for the rebar
    1. +16
      20 March 2015 05: 50
      Quote: Shick
      The May 9 parade is likely to bring together the maximum number of spectators this year, everyone is waiting for the rebar

      And the most interesting will be watched with great interest in Europe and in the White House and in Kiev wassat
      Beat onlain record watching Olympic Games in Sochi fellow
      1. Favorite
        +4
        20 March 2015 06: 24
        The number of government delegations that will visit Moscow is still amazing.
      2. +3
        20 March 2015 15: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the most interesting will be watched with great interest in Europe and in the White House and in Kiev wassat
        Beat onlain record watching Sochi Olympics fellow

        Guys! I work 9, and the video sysodmin, dog breeds, blocking - immediately upload pictures of everything on the website plz.
      3. +5
        20 March 2015 19: 38
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The May 9 parade is likely to bring together the maximum number of spectators this year, everyone is waiting for the rebar
        And the most interesting will be watched with great interest in Europe and in the White House and in Kiev

        In the White House and in Kiev, I think they will look something like this ...
    2. +4
      20 March 2015 12: 39
      Quote: Shick
      The May 9 parade is likely to bring together the maximum number of spectators this year, everyone is waiting for the rebar

      moreover, there will be more spectators abroad than ever before. And then the video of the passage of new combat systems and complexes will be studied by Western "clever men" under a microscope. hi
  3. +3
    20 March 2015 06: 00
    It remains to wait a bit.
    In training (especially at night), a variety of spies, like bloodworms in the headlights, can be collected and sorted by accessories. smile
    1. +4
      20 March 2015 09: 18
      . This photo was not of high quality, but allowed to draw conclusions about the main features of the armored hull, including its layout.

      in the guise of the new GS-BMP / BTR, etc., there is nothing secret ...
      much more interesting which propulsion and automatic transmission will be installed ((preferably in a single unit, for quick replacement))))
      and what the DBMS will be like, it will show HOW innovative will the Kurganets-25 project be

      and the "look" of the new General Staff will be like this Yes ...I CAN ARGUE lol
      клик
      1. +3
        20 March 2015 09: 47
        3D, GSh layout ...
        клик
        1. +1
          20 March 2015 19: 05
          This is the same Bradley, only in profile)))) Some kind of virtual crap. Artists come up with nonsense again.
      2. +4
        20 March 2015 09: 52
        and one moregood ((with some changes, this will be "Kurganets-25")))))
        1. +4
          20 March 2015 19: 07
          Kurgan will not be 3 meters high. All these 3d models are a figment of a sick imagination. Russian equipment of the decade was distinguished by its low silhouette. In the same vein will be the new BMP.
      3. +4
        20 March 2015 19: 04
        But I'm not sure that this brick will become the new Russian BMP))))
        1. +2
          20 March 2015 20: 14
          Quote: cast iron
          All of these 3d models are a figment of a sick imagination. Russian equipment of the decade was distinguished by its low silhouette. In the same vein will be the new BMP

          Actually, I posted about the Mytishchensky General Purpose Vehicle, MT-SM, developed in the USSR by 80's, on the basis of which the Polish mine installer ((mass-produced)) and the BMP prototype were developed ...

          GSH MT-SM ((Object 562))) Soviet - Russian medium multi-purpose conveyor tractor, developed in the design bureau of Mytishchi Engineering Plant ...
          case length - 8530 mm
          Case Width - 3250 mm
          height-2930 mm ((almost guessed 3- meta
          lol ))))
          1992 by the order of the Minister of Defense of Russia MT-SM was adopted ...
          info s:http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=477.0
          and, with: http: //rcforum.su/showthread.php? p = 851779
          1. +3
            20 March 2015 21: 27
            here, another pipelats from Germany, very similar to the creation of the Poles ...
            I recall that those ... documentation of the General Staff MS-S / MT-SM was also located in the GDR ...
            and in the 2012 year, the company FFG Flensburger Fahrzeugbau GmbH ((previously it was only engaged in the repair of armored vehicles))) represents a multipurpose general-purpose vehicle ((like on the units and assemblies of MBT Leo-I))) ...
            PMMC G5 - a modular conveyor for performing protected tasks (Protected Mission Module Carrier).
            FFG Flensburger Fahrzeugbau first demonstrated its new G5 in February 2012 of the International Armored Vehicles conference in Farnborough
            The combat weight of the base vehicle is 25 tons, the landing squad has a volume of 14,5 m3, and the payload is 6,5 tons. The machine can carry up to 12 people. It is driven by a 560 hp diesel engine. The engine-transmission compartment is located in front, to the right of the driver. Behind the driver is a place arrow.

            info s:http://www.army-guide.com/rus/product4822.html

            TECHNOLOGIES DEVELOPED IN THE USSR, ARE USED AND NOW WORLDWIDE !!!

            PMMC G5 - a modular conveyor (Module Carrier) of Germany - almost a clone of the Soviet MT-SM !!!
            not only the Chinese, indulge in this stop

          2. +1
            21 March 2015 17: 55
            That's exactly what it is TRANSPORTER and Tractor. For the fighting was not originally developed. This is a lightly armored tracked army truck. If you seriously decided that our BMP will be 8 meters long and 3 tall, then you can only envy your bold imagination)))) Can you imagine how much this brick will weigh if you book it at least from 12,7 mm in a circle? )))))))))) The chassis just can not stand it.
      4. +4
        20 March 2015 23: 03
        Quote: cosmos111
        much more interesting which propulsion and automatic transmission will be installed

        Perhaps you did not mean the mover, but the engine. Because on the caterpillar car the caterpillars are the mover.
        1. +1
          20 March 2015 23: 34
          Quote: Fregate
          Perhaps you did not mean the mover, but the engine. Because on the caterpillar car the caterpillars are the mover.

          that's right, wrong, it happens hi they are the most what
          Mover
          a device for converting the energy of a natural source or a mechanical engine into useful work that ensures the movement of vehicles.
      5. +1
        21 March 2015 23: 31
        Yes, no, in the photo in the article, they twist a bmp-3, whose silhouette is much lower than in your imported photo, the engine compartment is visible from behind, the rear engine location, the driver's seat, judging by the hatch and observation devices, is in the center, in the background - similar to "melon" - again with BMP-3.
        If the photo for the article is not sticky, then most likely the Kurgan will be a BMP-3 with a new chassis and weapon system
        1. 0
          31 March 2015 00: 49
          Already on the network there were photos of Kurgan-25, preparing for the parade. We did not guess. It will be a brick 3 meters high. She's just huge.
  4. +1
    20 March 2015 07: 28
    It would be very good if this equipment is really ready, and not like in Soviet times. Go to the parade ground for exhibition samples, and then again for the kulman. It’s better not to do it, it’s better to go directly to the troops from the parade, to the training ground.
    1. +5
      20 March 2015 08: 02
      And what happens?
      Experienced military operation always reveals a lot of jambs that the designer is sometimes not able to provide and which are subsequently eliminated by dozens of improvements.
      1. +1
        20 March 2015 19: 10
        Quote: Moore
        And what happens?

        It happens, and not in the very distant past, modern submarine missile carriers were built, and the missile adopted for service was not ready. (I mean the Bulava missile).
        I don’t want to list all the jambs, but at the moment the date is May 9th, that's what I’m afraid of. The raw car will be kicked out and put into service for the sake of showing .............. and so it was, we didn’t build a system to replace the Soviet one, we all live on the groundwork and groundwork of the USSR
    2. +3
      20 March 2015 18: 27
      Quote: APASUS
      It would be very good if this technique is really ready, and not as in Soviet times

      And, in my opinion, in Soviet times, it was the equipment that was already used by the troops that was demonstrated at parades. I, of course, consider the post-war period, excluding outright "scarecrows" in the form of mock-ups of strategic missiles, the "presentation" of which was so famously arranged by Nikita Sergeevich on Red Square.
      1. +1
        21 March 2015 09: 18
        Quote: aviator65
        Quote: APASUS
        It would be very good if this technique is really ready, and not as in Soviet times

        And, in my opinion, in Soviet times, it was the equipment that was already used by the troops that was demonstrated at parades. I, of course, consider the post-war period, excluding outright "scarecrows" in the form of mock-ups of strategic missiles, the "presentation" of which was so famously arranged by Nikita Sergeevich on Red Square.
  5. +1
    20 March 2015 07: 37
    , but they collect everything like 70 years ago - with pens
    1. +1
      21 March 2015 16: 33
      Well, this is not Lada, to collect feet.
      Do you want a conveyor belt? What for? A conveyor is a proven technology for mass production. Necessary?
      By the way, NIVA (VAZ 21213 and 2121) is the best work of autotaz, and the number of cars produced is just crazy. Why do you need so much BT?
  6. Rex
    +1
    20 March 2015 08: 02
    Interestingly, the plant announced that it had signed a contract with the Moscow Region for the purchase and supply of Kurgan in 2015.
    Although there were no test data
  7. +6
    20 March 2015 08: 26
    ... will have to wait until May, when the first official demonstration of several new products at once takes place.

    Today is a round date! fellow
  8. +1
    20 March 2015 09: 15
    Here. To be honest, I don’t see any prospects for an average platform on a tracked chassis, and even in the form of a BMP used ....
    You are fighting in the company of tanks - be a beaver - match the armor .....
    You ride separately, such as quick reaction forces, be kind to be able to make solid marches on your own on public roads ....
    Ie either a wheeled chassis or tracks, but with tank armor ....
    1. +5
      20 March 2015 09: 39
      Quote: tchoni
      You fight in company with tanks - be a beaver - match the armor ...

      I agree, with you, the buoyancy / seaworthiness of the 25 ton of GSH will be minimal ((zero-keep afloat))) therefore, additional floats are needed ....
      the most optimal use of the "tank" GSh (on units and assemblies), but the use of a powerful engine ...
      it will already be a multipurpose GSh, for self-propelled guns, BTR-T / BMP-T, etc. ((project "Armata" .....
      how will the general staff of the Polish self-propelled guns "Krab" accept using suspension assemblies, rollers, the T-72 engine ...
      GSh ACS "Crab"


      Quote: tchoni
      T.E. or wheeled chassis or tracks, but with tank armor.

      wheeled chassis, with tank swearing, is not effective, because of the difficulty, the high cost of maintenance ...
      in South Africa, such developments were carried out in 80's ..
      wheeled tank, "Bismarck" about 50 tons
    2. +4
      20 March 2015 22: 44
      You are wrong. Try to make any even non-solid march on a wheeled chassis off-road, in the face of quick reaction forces or something else - the first ravine / slope / ditch will turn out to be an insurmountable obstacle (time), and if you moisten it a little with rain or spring-autumn muddy - everything, Khan, forward to the track, there you will find pies and hot tea.
      Caterpillars give the car independence, freedom of action
      1. +2
        21 March 2015 08: 42
        Quote: Disant
        You are wrong. Try to make any even non-solid march on a wheeled chassis off-road, in the face of quick reaction forces or something else - the first ravine / slope / ditch will turn out to be an insurmountable obstacle (time), and if you moisten it a little with rain or spring-autumn muddy - everything, Khan, forward to the track, there you will find pies and hot tea.

        Yes, but do you know that during the Second World War the armored division needed about 1500 tons of various junk daily? This hour, this volume, as it were, did not become bigger ....
        what's the use of your track march if wheeled trucks can't deliver supplies to you? Matalyga - save me ?! If you make a march - so do it at least along the primer ... And yet - the lion's share of marches breaks down due to the low reliability of the equipment, and not at all because of the shitty road conditions ...
        And one more thing: Rapid Response Forces are 2 - 5 divisions in all armed forces .... no more ... Special equipment is also possible for them ...
        Quote: Disant
        Caterpillars give the car independence, freedom of action
        , but not from the repair units .. Do you know that the goose is a hundred of articulated, all kinds of shit, LOADED connections? that 5000 km the service life for the goose is epic (for frequent and 3000 are not nursed)?
        1. +2
          21 March 2015 23: 51
          Well, again, heaped everything in a bunch a second time.
          They brought facts that have nothing to do with the hopelessness of the BMP on the goose that you are discussing. All your arguments apply equally to both tracked and wheeled vehicles, regardless of the "weight" of the platform.
          How do you propose supporting infantry in battle?
          For some reason, the MTLB hard worker was offended ... This is not good ..
          1. 0
            22 March 2015 16: 24
            Quote: Disant
            How do you propose supporting infantry in battle?

            A tank and only a tank ..... And transported on a HEAVY BTR ...
            In general, this question very much depends on where and how this infantry operates ...
            Quote: Disant
            All your arguments apply equally to both tracked and wheeled vehicles, regardless of the "weight" of the platform.

            Everything is correct, but in the case of an average platform, it is possible to replace the tracks with wheels without compromising the consumer qualities of the product, or even with an increase in them ... Just like a quick response tool.
            For a heavy platform, this, unfortunately, can not be done .... Otherwise, it will turn out like the Yuarians with their Bismarck (see photo above ...)
            For that matter .... BMP is its average and you shouldn’t do it ..... Only heavy, equal in weight to the tank ....
  9. +2
    20 March 2015 09: 17
    All that will be shown at the parade, and the latest events are just a puppy delight.
  10. +1
    20 March 2015 12: 54
    It’s interesting, why, to induce such mystery, this is not a new Mercedes body that the Chinese will immediately snatch, the appearance of the tank does not play such a role for the user as the appearance of a new car
    1. +3
      20 March 2015 16: 18
      I wonder why bring such mystery


      For discipline. We got used to the fact that in the 90s the state secrets in the bazaars were frayed, and any new development was demonstrated, without bringing it to mind, in the hope of finding a customer with the "press." But the situation has changed, and the main customer (the state) must look after its interests.
      Interestingly, the module, it turns out, will not occupy the internal volume, and there will be a place for at least 4 fighters, but then you can’t stick a normal trunk anymore.
    2. +1
      20 March 2015 21: 53
      Quote: LM66
      It’s interesting, why, to induce such mystery, this is not a new Mercedes body that the Chinese will immediately snatch, the appearance of the tank does not play such a role for the user as the appearance of a new car

      For specialists, everything gives information, including appearance.
  11. +1
    20 March 2015 13: 01
    So the Chinese and the tank will copy without batting an eye. And so I think the days are right until May 9 to see the new equipment. Mother Russia rises from her knees.
    1. +1
      20 March 2015 22: 00
      Quote: RuslanNN
      So the Chinese and the tank will copy without batting an eye ...

      To stupidly copy the appearance of a lot of intelligence is not needed ... Why, then, the Germans during the Second World War T-34 could not exactly copy. And everything is simple - the Germans did not have some necessary technologies for this ...
  12. +6
    20 March 2015 13: 10
    the article is good, but once you link to the site, you can insert photos from there. and then the letters are solid and not a single picture. strange sending is obtained
    1. 0
      20 March 2015 19: 10
      This fantasy of another humanitarian "designer" has nothing to do with the Russian school of tank building.
      1. +1
        20 March 2015 22: 55
        Quote: cast iron
        This fantasy of another humanitarian "designer" has nothing to do with the Russian school of tank building.

        And you look on the Internet for the only photograph of the unfinished building of "Kurganets" and you will understand. that it is just such a box-shaped one, by the way, the slope of the frontal sheets is conveyed here very accurately.
        1. 0
          21 March 2015 18: 00
          The only photograph of the next EXPERIMENTAL sample, of which there are thousands over the 70 years of the USSR’s existence, does not mean that this square brick a la panzerkampfvagen of the 40s will be adopted))))))
        2. +1
          24 March 2015 16: 56
          By the way, you were right. This brick will pass on Red Square on May 9. Photos from the preparations have already been leaked to the Internet. Gurkhan already posted on the site.
  13. +1
    20 March 2015 14: 39
    Well, with such a "forehead" - it's full (((
    1. 0
      21 March 2015 18: 01
      Judging by the design project with such dimensions and such angles, this brick will weigh well for 32 tons)))) Unless of course they’ll build it from cardboard.
      But to be honest, this body shape is unlikely to be taken as a basis. This does not at all fit with the traditions of Soviet tank construction.
  14. +1
    20 March 2015 15: 26
    http://naviny.by/rubrics/society/2015/03/20/ic_articles_116_188497/
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  16. +4
    20 March 2015 15: 40

    Here found on the topic.
    1. Rex
      +2
      20 March 2015 16: 16
      Fantastic, unrealistic
    2. +1
      20 March 2015 16: 22
      It's kind of a fantasy from "Courage", but it looks great, not that it's a "miracle" ... http: //i-fotki.info/19/793e745f76c113f3fa38d4d724f4956b5f
      99bf209517844.jpg.html
      1. Rex
        +6
        20 March 2015 16: 31
        Photos like about. 195. There are many of them walking.
      2. +4
        20 March 2015 19: 11
        It looks cool for children, but people in the subject understand that the guns on the sides are idiocy that neither the Ministry of Education nor the Design Bureau will go to. Leave fantasy data to Japanese anime lovers.
        1. +3
          20 March 2015 20: 55
          Apparently for this reason it was in this configuration that the city version of the T-14 was shown to Rogozin at a closed exhibition in 2013. http://cont.ws/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/armata-model-5.jpg
          1. +1
            21 March 2015 18: 03
            It is enough to look at the level of performance of the layout in order to understand what these Chinese toys did for display before the bureaucrats. Side machine guns and guns that do not have a degree of freedom in sectors are idiocy. Moreover, no one will increase the crew to manage them.
        2. 0
          20 March 2015 23: 25
          Well, why - a machine gun on the starboard side looks nothing at all. MTLB-A (or B) - production vehicles, more than 12 years in the army.
          And the gun on the left is 23mm, also a tape feed.
          Overall looks cool
        3. 0
          20 March 2015 23: 43
          I agree that a one and a half by three meter "box" is more relevant than an extreme-angled tower with side cannons. Especially when the APFSD arrives. hi
  17. +5
    20 March 2015 18: 49
    The beginning of the article. First sentence. I huh ... fool, dear edition (((

    "Specialists and the public looking forward to May 9. "Is this ok ????
    1. 0
      20 March 2015 23: 34
      All public experts rub here ... wassat
  18. +2
    20 March 2015 19: 49
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYOHQCpWIiQ довольно ясно всё.... о курганце 25
    1. 0
      21 March 2015 18: 21
      Click here for a video about BMP-3. What does Kurganets have to do with it?
  19. +1
    20 March 2015 22: 39
    Quote: Dog of war
    Apparently for this reason it was in this configuration that the city version of the T-14 was shown to Rogozin at a closed exhibition in 2013. http://cont.ws/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/armata-model-5.jpg

    Well Rogozin, a decent clown and an amateur smile
  20. +2
    21 March 2015 06: 13
    Quote: lao_tsy

    Here found on the topic.

    beautiful of course and impressive, God forbid that it would be embodied in metal and quickly!
  21. +1
    21 March 2015 09: 40
    I understand the video version of the uninhabited tower? Even one person can’t fit there - sighting equipment, swivel mechanisms and gun drives, including lateral, automatic power-charging, ammunition (or is it in the main body?). In appearance - you can catch the features of all modern designs (Merkava, Leopard, etc.). It seems that even so it’s someone’s fantasy, but, as they say, with the best intentions ...
  22. 0
    22 March 2015 17: 09
    I wonder why they don’t put a Bahcha-U combat module on this Kurganets?
    His firepower is much higher!

    Just because the Bahce module is habitable and not automated?
    For the BMP, it seems to me that an uninhabited BM is a dubious option.
    The top hatches of the crew and the driver, as I understand it, is precisely due to the fact that this uninhabited module does not allow moving inside along the car. Those. when the machine is hit, the driver and crew will have to leave it from the most dangerous part, instead of going through the landing compartment and leaving the ramp, using the machine as a cover from enemy fire.
  23. +2
    23 March 2015 23: 24
    And here they are, though for now, partly under a tarp. Meet - Kurganets.
  24. +3
    23 March 2015 23: 47
    Here is the info on the combat module.

    Active module "Epoch".

    Armament:
    1. 30-mm AP 2A42 with ammunition of 500 rounds (160 BPS / 340OFS), firing range up to 4000m
    2. UR "Kornet" (4 pieces on two launchers), firing range of ATGMs up to 8000m, UR "Kornet" with NDC - up to 10000m.
    3. 7,62 mm PKT machine gun with an ammunition load of 2000 rounds.

    OMS features:
    - Automatic search for targets simultaneously in different spectral ranges in passive and active mode;
    - Search for masked targets with an optical locator;
    - Simultaneous shelling of two targets;
    - Highly effective anti-aircraft fire from anti-aircraft targets with automatic tracking at angles of up to 70 degrees .;
    - Combat work in remote control mode;
    - Work on external target designation;

    Design features:
    - Block-modular construction principle;
    - Increased crew security;
    - Multifunctional combat use.
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      24 March 2015 11: 15
      Is there really no option with a 57 mm gun? As for me, in modern conditions, 30 mm is no longer enough!
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    24 March 2015 09: 12
    I will express my opinion in one word - TALE! smile
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    25 March 2015 13: 10
    I thought at least something to read specific, while everything is unclear.

    Quote: tchoni

    Are you aware that a goose is a hundred of articulated, accessible all kinds of shit, LOADED connections? that 5000 km the service life for the goose is epic (for frequent and 3000 are not nursed)?

    Caterpillars of T-26 and 1000 could not pass, until hardening technologies have grown. And nothing fought. IMHO 1000-2000 is already quite a sufficient resource for the caterpillar. A fleet of trailers is needed, unambiguously, and not to increase the resource of caterpillars to infinity or sculpt wheeled tanks.
    And on the ground, 4-axle trucks go great, and the BTR-80 almost everywhere gives BMPs. And while the head will not be broken on the armored corps.

    We are waiting for the emergence of TBMP with adequate protection, without swimming, and a combat module of the main tool 37-45-57 mm, without a zoo of 3 calibers. And it is advisable with a variable charge, because the OFS is better to shoot at a speed of no more than 400-600 m / s. Otherwise, there will be almost no fragments when hit in the ground.
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    26 March 2015 10: 11
    What is this tank?
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  29. 0
    26 March 2015 12: 11
    7 rinks like Armata
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    31 March 2015 09: 46
    The whole article can be reduced to one single phrase: nothing is known. wassat