Buckwheat vs barley

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Buckwheat vs barleyNow from the diet of military personnel such grains as barley, millet and oatmeal are withdrawn.

For those who at one time did military service, with these cereals is associated storyor even a whole epoch. A few years ago, the Russian, and even more so the Soviet, private could not even imagine that they would lose those very “bolts” or “shrapnels” as the soldiers affectionately called this rump.

As usual, such changes in army life could not pass unnoticed, not only by military personnel, but also by purely civilians. Some information and analytical agencies decided to conduct a large-scale sociological survey in which people of various professions were asked how they relate to replacing barley and millet with buckwheat and rice. Of course, when answering a question, many people recalled their “wartime”, when it was difficult to imagine an army breakfast without millet or barley porridge. Most of the respondents calmly reacted to the planned changes, but there were also those who were ready to fight for barley to foaming at the mouth.

Needless to say, pearl barley is a real symbol of the national army, but sooner or later the symbols can be, and often need to be changed. That is exactly what highbrow officials thought. Immediately I heard the words that despite the infinite love of this croup, it is impossible, they say, not to take into account the fact that the new army also needs a new diet. Proponents of change say that the soldier should eat the proposed food with pleasure, and that of sin, conceal from the "snotty" oatmeal and barley not many were and remain enthusiastic. Another thing is that not everyone is crazy about buckwheat cereal, which is going to be introduced for replacement. And if we talk about rice, it is generally a product of almost purely imported.

Some will say: well, they replaced the cereals with one another, and fool with them. Others will take up a calculator and begin to figure out how much the current perturbations will cost the current army. By the way, here and without a calculator, you can estimate. So, the average price of barley in Russia today is about 10 rubles per kilogram, and the price of buckwheat ranges from 30 to 110 (!) Rubles for the same kg. It turns out that even with a simple scenario, feeding soldiers with buckwheat for the military budget will cost 3, or even more times more.

Opinions:

Ilya Kramnik, military expert:
The decision of Serdyukov is correct: pearl barley, pshenka, oatmeal have become boring, and buckwheat, rice, pasta - a higher level of nutrition. As for changes in general, now army food is being transferred to outsourcing. In this case, corruption risks are reduced. A fixed fee is set by the military unit, which reduces the opportunities for corruption.

Mikhail GINZBURG, Dietitian, MD:
The feeling of abandoning barley in the army is twofold. On the one hand, this cereal has many nutritional benefits. She has a low glycemic index, which means she can maintain a state of satiety for a long time, which is good in the army. It turns out nourishing food. Another advantage, but already economic: barley will always be inexpensive grains.
But at the same time there are disadvantages. For example, I rarely eat barley, I don’t really like it - coarse grits. And I cannot say that it has any great advantages over buckwheat and rice. Food without pearl barley with plenty of rice, buckwheat is good food. For the soldiers here, I would rather be glad.

Leonid IVASHOV, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems:
For a long time I did not eat barley ... We need a domestic, high-quality, high-calorie product. In Soviet times, an entire institute was engaged in the study of the soldiers' menu. We proceeded from the fact that it was tasty, nutritious and so that it could be kept in reserve not only for the current army, but also for the mobilization.

Oleg TERESHKIN, veteran of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Kazan:
What kind of army is this, if its fighting capacity depends on food?

Boris SMAGORINSKY, head of the public council of the State Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Volgograd region:
Only a tasty cooked slice of pork or beef. And the defenders will eat well, and raise livestock.


Or maybe this is not at all a concern for a more tasty and nutritious diet for servicemen. And another attempt to leave a considerable part of the budget of military money in the pockets of long forgotten and about wheat, and the barley of Russian generals.

This no longer seems a strange niggle to the reform of the Russian army after it began to use outsourcing services. Moreover, hired civilian workers often work only on paper, and on paper they receive their wages. In fact, the money confidently flows into the accounts of the generals' ranks, and all the work on cleaning the premises, planting vegetables and unloading cars is done by all the same draftees. By the way, they also have their summer cottages to manage to build the same generals for “outsourcing” finances.
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  1. Tyumen
    +16
    24 September 2011 09: 53
    Which one. These cereals are a storehouse of vitamins, trace elements, and energy. Look with what rivals the boys from the army are returning. Tereshkin, a veteran of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, is surprised that the army is dependent on food, but a soldier is not an alchemist who will not remain hungry, combat readiness depends on his physical condition. The second cop Smagorinsky just froze nonsense, it will take more for soldier’s steaks than for tanks. Where is the money, Zin? Yes, and it’s not worth pampering the fighters, or they will grow up in a Western likeness - when a Russian soldier with a half-pot of millet fought to death, a US soldier in Hawaii was capricious, demanded a second serving of ice cream, and the British first saved the refrigerators with beer, when Rommel drove them around Africa with a broom . Institutions worked on the soldiers ’diet in the USSR, and these layouts cannot be outdated. Modernization, -removed mat.
    1. +1
      24 September 2011 22: 35
      Exactly. Just think again: firstly, the "pillage" will start again, and the soldier will have devilry to eat, and secondly, someone up there is very much dreaming - I heard that somewhere soldiers are being fed dog food .. ...
    2. -1
      24 September 2011 22: 45
      Exactly. Just think again: firstly, the "pillage" will start again, and the soldier will have devilry to eat, and secondly, someone up there is very much dreaming - I heard that somewhere soldiers are being fed dog food .. ...
      1. oper66
        +1
        26 September 2011 02: 19
        AND YOU WHAT ARE YOUR ATTITUDE TO THE ARMY? x SERVED? OR ONLY LISTENED
    3. -1
      24 September 2011 22: 46
      Exactly. Just think again: firstly, the "pillage" will start again, and the soldier will have devilry to eat, and secondly, someone up there is very much dreaming - I heard that somewhere soldiers are being fed dog food .. ...
    4. dmitri077
      +2
      28 January 2012 16: 01
      "In the USSR, institutes worked on the soldier's ration, and these layouts cannot become obsolete" - ha-ha, it was the institutes that worked on the general's ration! And over the soldier's Sergeant Major and other thieves! and the food as it was shit, and remains!
  2. Splin
    +6
    24 September 2011 09: 59
    What the hell ... difference. Even bacon can, in theory, be fed chicken legs with pineapples. All the same, in the kitchen to cook rubbish the same as the barley they cooked earlier. I like barley. For fishing we get out the most it. This is really not the kind of "shot" cooked by a handless cook. It is not the diet that needs to be changed but the cook!
  3. gAMauzer
    -1
    24 September 2011 12: 00
    There is an opinion that (taking into account the difference in prices of cereals) this is a "buckwheat lobby" and a saw-recoil mechanism (hardly the same furniture maker did not take his "roosts" in the notorious outsourcing system).
    1. pokermen
      -1
      24 September 2011 12: 03
      If you also take into account that we buy buckwheat in China ..... then this is the bonanza
  4. -1
    24 September 2011 12: 18
    To everyone nostalgic for "shrapnel", "slash" and other abominations, believing that hot water from the tap in the barracks undermines the army's combat effectiveness, and one wash a week is enough to keep the soldier from getting bad, I advise you to go to the store and buy cereals and eat it from the belly. You can also wash your face with extremely cold water and take a shower once a week. Feel yourself in the ranks of the SA, nostalguna.
    PS Probably enough to pour from empty to empty gonivo about ice cream in Hawaii. Doesn't it seem strange to you that amers should be blamed for a good supply, making them almost accomplices of the fascists? Watch The Pacific. It tells about the war of amers in "all sorts of Hawaii" (about which we know almost nothing). Before each episode, documentary memoirs of their veterans are given, who tell, for example, how their boots rotted from dampness right on their feet. Hawaii? You can also read about the Japanese prisoner of war camps, where the Amers and the British were "welcomed" no better than our soldiers in the German camps.
    1. Tyumen
      +3
      24 September 2011 12: 55
      It is not the good supply that is blamed for them, but, unlike us, the dependence on this supply, 60 years ago, today. Without toilet paper - what kind of war? Our soldier always fought for his or someone else's freedom, and was ready for hardships, they are not. And watch the series yourself, I read the recollections of veterans of the Philippines, Norman Mailer, and I think that sadness from raw shoes easily crumbled on them with mobile army brothels and distillation cubes. And what have the prisoners to do with the Japanese camps? Are you trying to * balance * the merits of our and their prisoners? Are you a Pole or something?
      1. +1
        24 September 2011 13: 20
        We pass to clarification of nationality? However, I’ll reassure you, I’m not a Pole. Neither by citizenship, nor by ethnicity (the first did not serve in the SA, and the second met me in the army, there were quite decent guys). But your nationality refers to those who, for the bestial attitude towards the soldiers of their army, came up with a universal excuse in the form of the line “a soldier must endure the hardships and deprivations of military service.” Think of the name of this nationality yourself.
        PSThe idea that the stupidity of the command, it is necessary to shut up the soldiers with heroism does not belong to me, but I completely agree with her.
        1. Tyumen
          0
          24 September 2011 13: 36
          If you are hurt, I apologize, but you are not the subject of prisoners. And those Poles that you met in the army grew up in the USSR and therefore you do not need to compare them with the modern ones that I wrote about. I am Russian. And I think this line of the charter is correct, the army is not a resort.
        2. 0
          7 February 2015 21: 37
          Greyfox (xnumx)
          "PS The idea that the stupidity of the command has to be silenced by the heroism of the soldiers does not belong to me, but I completely agree with her." - Well, who is the author of this quote, what a fool?
          Something like writing a snotty story, Arbat kids?

          Bestial relationship to a soldier, which one and where?
          When and how did we treat the soldier like a beast?
          Something I did not observe in the SA, a hasty attitude towards a soldier — I fed up on time, I’m well fed, washed, dressed, what kind of bonkers do you want?

          "But your nationality belongs to those who, for the bestial attitude towards the soldiers of their army, came up with a universal excuse in the form of the line" a soldier must steadfastly endure the hardships and deprivation of military service "" - BOTH ON E !!!, but everything is clear, only a little in the Army with nothing, could freeze something like that ... we had such a company in our company, he was in the bathhouse, a second and he was gone .. the mouth from the bathhouse, bam, smelly, dirty was drawn, we had to wash the zakomvzvod from the water hose, this stinker until they taught go to the bathhouse.

          At home, mother did not teach that a man has no right to whine and snot hang in the bushes?

          The author of this comment, obviously, is one of those who, having seen a dirty trench, will cry out in a tragic voice, "I did not subscribe to endure dirt and cold water, give me parquet flooring," and if after the exercises to wash the technique ... so then howling on the verge of ultrasound - "Oh, I won't, I won't, I won't, it's dirty, I'll get dirty .. !!!

          It’s a shame ... to write like this, clearly not serving, or serving in a warm place ...
    2. Anatoly
      +4
      24 September 2011 13: 28
      It is because of this "abomination", "hot water" and "such supply" that our guys become men! They make marches to Yugoslavia, bite into every house in Chechnya, drive Georgians from South Ossetia. Fall and get up, and move on. With all the hardships and hardships. Not pampered Americans won the Second World War. And our Russian soldier!
      1. dmitri077
        +1
        28 January 2012 16: 06
        chyos mare lol
    3. Splin
      +1
      24 September 2011 16: 25
      Until now I have been washing cold water with a shower for 10 years in war games - a habit!
      But with the food ... The wife can not look neither wheat nor barley porridge. And when I do pea for myself (I rarely cook, why then) pea, then she can run away from home. With men on fishing buters with stews. where a heap of grease on a jar and fat melts only when heated. Who does not understand this will support Serdyukov. My wife still doesn’t understand why I wind my footcloths for fishing.
    4. -1
      24 September 2011 22: 47
      I do not agree with you. As Splin wrote above, you need to change the cook (a good word, I will use it). I eat barley and I'm fine. I pour cold water daily. In addition, do not distort: ​​no one wrote that hot water undermines combat readiness. It is possible to wash completely in the army every day, only a bathhouse is not only a wash, but also a kind of rest (I'm NOT talking about having fun with women and vodka, I'm talking about its physiological and psychological significance), which is why it is prescribed.
      I recall a story from the Iraq conflict: the American battalion refused to go on the attack because ... they didn’t deliver orange juice. Therefore, good supply is good, but the soldiers should also serve. For all that, there should be a reprimand for every bastard, like lovers to feed canned food to soldiers ...
    5. -1
      24 September 2011 22: 52
      I do not agree with you. As Splin wrote above, you need to change the cook (a good word, I will use it). I eat barley and I'm fine. I pour cold water daily. In addition, do not distort: ​​no one wrote that hot water undermines combat readiness. It is possible to wash completely in the army every day, only a bathhouse is not only a wash, but also a kind of rest (I'm NOT talking about having fun with women and vodka, I'm talking about its physiological and psychological significance), which is why it is prescribed.
      I recall a story from the Iraq conflict: the American battalion refused to go on the attack because ... they didn’t deliver orange juice. Therefore, good supply is good, but the soldiers should also serve. For all that, there should be a reprimand for every bastard, like lovers to feed canned food to soldiers ...
    6. dmitri077
      0
      28 January 2012 16: 05
      Greyfox - absolutely right! our soldier was always half cattle, half serf ... why feed him well? who will ask from thieves! can still learn from the STATES? .. winked
      1. 0
        7 February 2015 21: 39
        dmitri077
        Well, son, did the Poles help you ??
        That is the true disciples of the Lyakhs and the Americans. Osov, shamefully fail in the cauldrons .. the best regiments, Geletei-Ilovaysky, and Poltoravsrak-Debaltsevsky ..
    7. 0
      7 February 2015 21: 28
      Greyfox (3
      how loud .. pathetic, the Americans in Hawaii ... he doesn’t like him .. hot water, a woman in bed and mom next to the bed, do not understand the dream of a remake than a soldown .. (I translate for the uncomprehending, the word of a soldier comes from the word soldo, the coins of which paid a salary to the warrior, the word down, and so it is clear)
      We take two dry, Amerovsky and ours, eat, compare, draw a conclusion, Amerovsky is bright, rustling, but it tastes govno. Ours, not bright, in solidol sometimes, ate and is full, is cheerful and ready that I put a muzzle on Amer, that with a girl in the hay wallow.
  5. Anatoly
    0
    24 September 2011 13: 21
    What is the cost estimate? First of all, you need to think that the soldiers are full.
    He served on pearl barley, bicus and oatmeal.
  6. Dovmont
    +3
    24 September 2011 14: 20
    Like it or not, but buckwheat porridge with meat is much more satisfying than barley with the same meat. But also more expensive.
    1. 0
      7 February 2015 21: 40
      Who said??
      You would also say that pea porridge with meat is not high in calories and does not give satiety ..
  7. Miracles
    +7
    24 September 2011 14: 28
    The most useful and nutritious are oat and buckwheat. Rice groats in Russia are produced polished, i.e. almost all vitamins are removed. The degree of rice processing depends on the economic well-being of the country: Japan and the United States can afford to polish, we can polish, the poor can only peel rice. When the Union supplied rice to warring Vietnam, there were cases of vitamin deficiency (Beriberi). Porridge made from Kuban round-grain rice does not look very attractive, and even tasteless.
    But now 2 years of rice harvesting records, respectively, the surplus must be removed to the army and the state reserve so that prices do not jump.
    Pearl barley from oatmeal differs only in the quality of protein, and is very nutritious, and most importantly, cheap.
    Millet and buckwheat cannot be stored for a long time, because there remains fat. which quickly rancid. They should be eaten quickly.
    You cannot feed a soldier with buckwheat at this price. The army is not a restaurant, it was always rationally approached for its nutrition: the main thing is that the soldier should be full and receive all necessary things with food. Even the army’s flour is purchased not by varietal grinding, but wallpaper (gray, with bran).
    1. 0
      24 September 2011 22: 55
      "The army is not a restaurant, its food has always been approached rationally: the main thing is that the soldier is well fed and receives everything he needs with food." - "Die, Denis, but you can't write better!" - to the point!
  8. -1
    24 September 2011 15: 08
    Miracles, the youth is brief and intelligible !!!!!!
  9. OvsyannikovVA
    -1
    25 September 2011 01: 16
    I don’t remember where exactly, but somewhere like this:
    "In order for a soldier to fight better, he must be angry with the enemy and one of the ways to achieve this anger at least partially is food. It must be nutritious, but not particularly tasty, so this gives anger to the enemy 'eating tasty' and an incentive to spoil the enemy's food. , and in peacetime it can be attributed to 'hardships and deprivations of military service' and to pin the character of a soldier "
  10. zczczc
    +4
    25 September 2011 01: 20
    This is idiocy squared! Or rather, on the plate. In place of the stool, I would not remove any cereal from the diet, but simply add new ones! If there is a fin. the opportunity to buy rice with cordon or buckwheat at unrealistic prices within the country - well, pamper the soldier, but why remove useful cereals from the menu? You just need to alternate.

    Personally, I love wheat and barley. Hercules is not very fond of, but, as far as I know, it is the most useful for physical. exercises.

    And thirdly - let us remember ancient Russia: cabbage soup and porridge are our food. And the mo'lods were wow!
  11. dimarm74
    0
    25 September 2011 10: 23
    Indeed ..... cooks need to be changed, not cereals .... But it is better to leave both in the diet
    1. Sanzyro
      -2
      25 September 2011 21: 43
      What does a cook have to do with ?? Warrant officers need to be changed !!! wink
    2. Sanzyro
      0
      25 September 2011 21: 47
      What does a cook have to do with ?? Warrant officers need to be changed !!! wink
  12. +1
    25 September 2011 12: 40
    He lived on porridge for six years. Two are urgent. Four is a school. Then, even in military schools, they lived in barracks for a full time. The quality of the porridge depends on the loads.
    They didn’t eat porridge, regardless of the variety and taste in the study.
    They didn’t eat porridge, regardless of the grade and taste in the school, when every spring we had checks on the physical preparation of the Moscow Region or the commander in chief. They drove in such a way that ALL was swept away. Pigs on the farm were starving. their main diet was waste from cadet tables.
    After training in the warhead, they began to understand the mess - they got involved in the service and the loads were not the same.
    Therefore, I believe that a complete replacement is another cut of money. Maybe I was lucky, but then we had buckwheat and rice and vermicelli in our diet.
    1. zczczc
      0
      25 September 2011 13: 38
      Yes, I don’t understand at all - any porridge can be made tasty, if you add banal apples there - give the soldier with the porridge an apple, he will find the knife himself. Vitamins are needed, our apples grow up to the northern regions - yes, small, but, as they say, the most useful thanks to vitamins.
  13. +1
    25 September 2011 13: 37
    I heard everything about these cereals. But I learned to eat them in the service. We had a normal nach food, didn’t complain about cooking. And now I regularly cook pearl barley. Great thing. And it will be cut, it’s essential! They could offer black caviar, instead of herring.
    1. Sanzyro
      -1
      25 September 2011 21: 48
      Black caviar is too much, but red fish was in the diet at the time. Probably not everywhere, of course, but it was ... Is it interesting now that they give it to the troops ??
      1. Sanzyro
        0
        25 September 2011 23: 35
        ABOUT! And for what minus that ?? I write about what I saw. Without a bulldozer ...
        1. zczczc
          +1
          25 September 2011 23: 44
          Sanzyro, but I admit that there could be a red fish. Wine is given on submarines. The whole question rests on "how many fish were caught." This is now being caught and taken to China for sale.
          1. oper66
            +1
            26 September 2011 00: 04
            WE HAD A RED SALVAGE FISH IN A TOMATO AT 7 MORNING BREAKFAST BREAKFAST WITH CRYSTAL I CAN'T HATE HER FROM ARMENIA IN 1988 4 07 WE WERE DISPATCHED IN THE WRITTEN LARGE ARMENIAN 0 CHILDREN 2 TANIAN. DAY CLEANED THE AIRPORT THERE WAS ON THE THEATER AREA LIVING IN A PRESS WAY I WAS A CURSOR Departure from Chugoev 3 ONBOARD
            1. zczczc
              -1
              26 September 2011 00: 29
              oper66sprat with potatoes well ...
              1. oper66
                -1
                26 September 2011 01: 35
                in Novorossiysk, now we’ll have a season for fresh salted sprats for potatoes and a glass of waahhh, the price is 49-60 r per kg
                1. zczczc
                  +1
                  26 September 2011 01: 47
                  oper66, in the main throne there are no such prices for sure ...
                  We have such a concept as a "weekend market" - it is strictly the farmers themselves who come to it. On Saturday last man I saw from my father's homeland practically, from Kamensk-Shakhtinsky - I bought sunflower oil from him. It's nice to see a loved one practically ... And what a fragrant oil - exactly like my grandmother did (we always had sunflower fields, both before the Union and during).
                  Two brothers from Tambov also came from the apiary - the honey is amazing, they gave me canvas from the hive again.

                  Surkov once said between times in the foyer of a congress, almost literally: "... all we did was use modern technologies in agriculture, and now there is practically no need to buy grain, meat or vegetables." I still think, what kind of technologies are these, that with complete collapse we have a lot of food and it all became plastic ...
                  1. oper66
                    +1
                    26 September 2011 02: 09
                    SO YOU ARE IN THE SEASON AND AT MY SEA FROM THE BALCONY YOU SEE AND SEE A SAVTRIKA ON SAMODOUR I FISH A MILF WITH A LOBAN ON THE STARVIDA FOOTBALL THIS YELLOW STRIPES WHAT YOU ARE BEING SHOPPING BETTER ALL YEAR FROM YOURSELF OUT OF YOUR YEAR FROM AREA. TO GOODLY COST EGGS RAW EGGS TO DRINK AND IF IT DOESN'T WORTH THAT TO PORT THEM winked I STILL HAVE OPENED THE CARD WITH WHITE CARD TO SEE THERE A HOUSE AND PARENTS IN THE NEWS OF CHILDREN HERE AND WITH THEIR NATIVE BLACKBERRY AND THERE THE MOTHER OF THE SEA DO NOT SEE I WANT TO KEEP THE CLEARED HOUSE I HAVE EATED FRIENDLY AT HOME DELIVERED TO THE TSAR YARD
              2. oper66
                -1
                26 September 2011 01: 40
                in Novorossiysk, now we’ll have a season for fresh salted sprats for potatoes and a glass of waahhh, the price is 49-60 r per kg
              3. oper66
                -1
                26 September 2011 01: 43
                in Novorossiysk, now we’ll have a season for fresh salted sprats for potatoes and a glass of waahhh, the price is 49-60 r per kg
          2. Sanzyro
            0
            26 September 2011 00: 36
            Yes. The real red fish! Nobody wanted to eat her. It was delivered salty, it was soaked and cooked. She was not popular, so the officers dragged her home. They also gave berry jam, Czechoslovakian - in small jars. Baby food, also imported. Fed basically good! Not everywhere, of course it was. In different parts and regions in different ways. My friend served in Czechoslovakia, he told me that they were fed like pigs - almost by swill, but it would seem to be abroad ...
            1. zczczc
              -1
              26 September 2011 00: 46
              Sanzyro, my mother somehow bought during the Union crabs ... And since I didn’t know what to do with them, I put them out on the balcony and threw them out. You can spoil any product. And salted red fish is usually taken for a reason - when the expiration date is close, it is salted heavily and shed.

              By the way, red fish is a whole family.
              1. Sanzyro
                0
                26 September 2011 00: 57
                It doesn’t matter - what ... The main thing is that the troops gave it! But now is it possible ?? Whatever she is! What kind of breed was she there - hell knows? Such healthy fish. We called her salmon and that’s it.
            2. oper66
              +1
              26 September 2011 00: 58
              no sled I'm sprat in canned tomato mass grave
              1. zczczc
                0
                26 September 2011 01: 08
                oper66, he did not cut through your humor :)))
                1. Sanzyro
                  -2
                  26 September 2011 01: 22
                  This is all the lyrics. Carcasses with stamps of the 62nd year, etc. hawed for a sweet soul! And nobody got worse! I wonder how the troops are being fed now? Prapora from the supply, I suppose they are not asleep. Is there anything left for the guard? winked
                  1. zczczc
                    +2
                    26 September 2011 01: 38
                    SanzyroWell, how than ...

                    1. oper66
                      -1
                      26 September 2011 01: 59
                      DURING THE SERVICE OF SUCH CANNED GOODS IN THE COUNTRY, IT WAS NOT LUCKY BY THE way, MY PITBUL ZETA EATS ONLY FRESH MEAT AND DOESN’T RECOGNIZE OUR
      2. oper66
        0
        26 September 2011 00: 08
        IN 1995 HAS BEEN PUTIN IN THE IRONED ASTRAKHAN REGION SOUP KRASNYUK OKOROSH AND PIES OF FISH OF CAVIAR WITH BASINS AND SO WANTED THE PORK UNTIL I UNDERSTAND THE KAIF FROM CAVIAR BLACK OR SAID
      3. oper66
        +1
        26 September 2011 00: 11
        IN 1995 HAS BEEN PUTIN IN THE IRONED ASTRAKHAN REGION SOUP KRASNYUK OKOROSH AND PIES OF FISH OF CAVIAR WITH BASINS AND SO WANTED THE PORK UNTIL I UNDERSTAND THE KAIF FROM CAVIAR BLACK OR SAID
  14. oper66
    +1
    25 September 2011 21: 59
    the soldier’s food should be caloric hot and delivered — the army is not a restaurant with whom. on the run along the slides, the grub didn’t go into the mouth and in the evening before going to bed, the belly nail and naps in the army should have food providing a set of calories and more than anything that you arrange here sushi bars - cabbage soup and porridge the food of the soldier and I also remember my grandfather said - bread and salt and water - here’s a soldier’s food, and now without a hot dog you’ll sit down or you need a scribble to sit down when shooting
    1. zczczc
      +1
      25 September 2011 23: 30
      oper66By the way, over the years you learn such things and double up - it turns out that a banal compote of dried fruits with something unique provides the body. Moreover, it is from dried fruits that a fresh fruit does not. I don’t remember the details, I heard about it.

      All nature has given us. I am amazed at those who suppress all sorts of soda - digestion only spoil ...
      1. oper66
        +1
        25 September 2011 23: 52
        YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE A LOAD OF 8 BK YES IN THE MARADERKA STOCK AFTER RUNNING ON THE MOUNTAINS OF GRAVES IN THE GUN IT DOESN’T CLIMB AND THERE IN THE LARGE OF 200 GR THIS TIME MACHINE ANNOUNCED AND MORNING 6 MONTHLY EVERYTHING! HALF HERE AND HAVE LEARNED AT HOME A LITTLE PLATE OF BORSCHT IN THE PUZO DO NOT REMEMBER
  15. MaxArt
    +1
    26 September 2011 00: 15
    We are part of the barley if only on holidays. The rest of the time for the first is water with cabbage, for the second - cabbage with water. Caterpillars both there and there. This is just the topic.

    But in fact - stealing buckwheat or rice will be much nicer than shrapnel or chopped. Well, who needs to steal barley, what interest? But buckwheat can be shoved from food stores with bags and left. Rear people and grocers dance with joy.
    1. oper66
      +1
      26 September 2011 00: 39
      YOU WHEN AND WHERE YOU SERVED THE FOOD FOR US, WE HAVE ANYTHING AND ATTEN A DRIED POTATO TYPE PUREE = KLEISTER WERE CUTLETS ON HOLIDAYS AND TAJIKA PLAW WAS READY TO COMBINE THEM EVERY TWO 2 YEARS EVERYWHERE 4 TIME EVERYWHERE 2.4 TIME YOU served knows how from fights fired
  16. mitrich
    +3
    26 September 2011 05: 54
    I read and wonder! Colleagues, especially those who have scooped up shrapnel in the army, write that what the fucking difference is what to eat for a tired soldier, even if he has not yet taken the military oath. All will devour and so.
    What army are the deprived? How is a military stomach different from a civilian stomach? After all, I would like to have smoked sausages, cheese and ice cream (amers, for example, give ice cream to military personnel in the southern regions).
    The fact that buckwheat is better than barley is an axiom. The fact that rice porridge is tastier is an axiom. The fact that the Ministry of Defense drew attention to this side of army life is magnificent and wonderful.
    And you at once - all the same, they will steal everything, they will take the food shops with bags. Wrong is the position. I liked the article. And then our army could diversify its diet only in war.
    1. Sanzyro
      -2
      27 September 2011 00: 32
      Yes, who argues, it’s clear what’s better ... But they’ll really get it! feel
  17. wzjeroha
    -1
    2 October 2011 19: 53
    sasha black in soldier's tales has a story donkey brake
    there is truth about the transition from buckwheat to lentils ,, Alexander Suvorov

    he treated them with lollipop. and the plot, asoyuznikiki Austrians sent buckwheat
    geese.
  18. Nadvodnic
    -1
    4 January 2012 02: 20
    After reading the article I remembered the poem of the army years:
    In 2 years I have eaten so much oats,
    What a shame horse to look in the eye.
  19. zavesa01
    -1
    28 January 2012 16: 44
    Dear in your opinion, the soldier or sailor SHOULD eat what they give and do not curl, but also rejoice in what they gave, but could they not give? So your way? As for the hardships and hardships, the soldier has enough of them. Why should a soldier be hungry? Remember about. Russian in the early 90s where they were starving. Is it also hardship and hardship? Did they also need to be carried firmly? Or when the soldiers were frozen at the airport in winter, their bosses developed their hatred of the enemy like that.
    Who missed the bigus here? Or didn’t you try? WHO VOLUNTARALLY AGREE HIM EVERY DAY EAT ????????

    So beloved by everyone, Suvorov and a soldier ate from the same pot, and now the officers have their own dining room (there is a company in the fleet of cabins) and food is prepared for them separately. Or am I wrong? Why do "respected" non-strangers remember about hardships and hardships, but forget about taking care of the personnel?
    How the hungry army is fighting for which pokh .. to all and the immediate superiors also showed 17 years.

    In my personal opinion, it’s a thief to steal from a soldier. This time. The soldier should be full, shod, dressed, healthy.
    And gentlemen officers, look at your soldiers as people, see a man in a soldier subordinate to you, put yourself in his place and it will become easier to serve.
  20. 0
    23 March 2012 15: 44
    Of course! after "mom's pies" a sharp transition to "cut-bar-barley" stress! wassat but Christmas tree sticks! I myself perfectly remember my call - 1991, December, training, the seashore, the wind is knocking down! The eternal feeling of hunger, lack of sleep, cold! NCO kicks and jabs! I already spoke about the diet! But!!!!! It has been 20 years since then and now I understand - I would put out figs on pasta and "sweets" those loads !!!! Yes, in the first month I lost a lot of weight, but after four, by the end of the training session, the ryakha was still surprised looking at those pictures! winked
    I’ll say more and somewhat move away from the topic - if they fed from the belly, fiddled with us like babies, they tried to persuade everyone and beg for it, so figs would make us specialists in five months! And so even the Uzbeks from the mountain villages of the Morse code accepted up to 90 characters, they could dig in frozen ground (they also trained, although the signalmen were) and much more!
  21. Richard. 1980
    +1
    7 February 2015 21: 20
    In vain, of course, they removed the barley-it was a symbolic porridge. And in dry rations, barley porridge with meat was generally a wonderful thing, now you will not find such a thing. The fact that now much attention is paid to the nutrition of the soldier is very good. After all, it is very important for a soldier to eat well and, if possible, then snatch some sleep. A soldier, he is also a man, although someone thinks differently. I remember my time in the army - training in 1991, before you have time to take your tray from the distribution, the sergeant is already yelling "finish your meal." The troops had a barrel system, when 12 people or six could sit at the table. So you look like in a peasant family, who ate how much. And there was also a "bigos" in huge concrete storage tanks, so some, when they went down there, squeaked for fun in the corner. So, the food in the Armed Forces must be at the proper level, if we do not want conscripts to shy away from our army like the devil from incense.